[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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GOOD. MORNING LIKE TO CALL OUR JULY 19TH 2022 REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER. THE TIME IS NINE. A.M.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOES YES, MA'AM. MR GRIFFITH? YES COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL? YES, MA'AM. TODAY'S INDICATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR BLAKE SMITH WITH EMMANUEL BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY ANTHONY WORKMAN WAS AN AIR FORCE VETERAN. IF YOU DON'T PLEASE STAND PRAY WITH ME. LORD WE THANK YOU THIS MORNING FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED. THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING TO GATHER IN THIS HOUSE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. OUR LORD. AS WE GET STARTED THIS MORNING, WE PAUSED TO ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS PLACE THAT CIVILITY RAIN. THAT WISDOM. IS EXERCISED IN ALL MATTERS. AND THAT GRACE IS SEEN IN ALL. AND ULTIMATELY, YOUR WILL. BE DONE.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR US IN THIS LAND. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SON DID TOO DID FOR US ON THE CROSS. AND IN JESUS' NAME. WE PRAY AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO
[E. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]
TODAY'S AGENDA? NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR CHAIRMAN. I RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE 18, WHICH IS THE APPEAL OF DEVELOP MOTOR 21-196 TO THE END OF THE MEETING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S GONNA BE LENGTHY, SO AND RESPECT ALL THE OTHERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY WILL MOVE THAT TO THE VERY END. DO I HAVE THE MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION? SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER DOZER COMMISSIONER[G. PRESENTATIONS]
HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY. THIS IS THE F F A PROCLAMATION.THIS WILL BE DONE BY COMMISSIONER MORE. YES SIR. IF I COULD HAVE THE ADVISER, MS BECKY COME DOWN, ALONG WITH THE PRESIDENT PRESLEY, KENT, THE SECRETARY KAYLEIGH WILLOUGHBY, THE SENTINEL DAVEN WEST. THE REPORTER HENAN YOU CAN HORST AND THE TREASURER HALEY JARAMILLO, PLEASE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS BACK OR LAST MONTH. LAST MONTH. AH ARE DEEMED BOZEMAN FAA GROUP DID VERY WELL AT STATE, AND SO I HAD ASKED TO BE ABLE TO COME DOWN AND TO DO THIS PROCLAMATION AND JUST RECOGNIZE THESE YOUNG STUDENTS WERE ALL THEIR HARD WORK THAT THEY PUT IN. SO WHEREAS THE LETTERS F F A STAND FOR FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA F F A IS NOT JUST FOR STUDENTS WHO WANT TO FARM IT WELCOMES MEMBERS WHO ASPIRE TO CAREERS AS TEACHERS, DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS BUSINESS OWNERS, VETERINARIANS AND MORE AND WHEREAS DEAN BOZEMAN SCHOOL HAS A HIGH SCHOOL EFFORT TO THAT WAS CHARTERED BY THE STUDENTS IN 2011 AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL CHAPTER THAT WAS CHARTERED IN 2017. DING BOZEMAN SCHOOL, FEATURES A THREE TEACHER AGRICULTURAL DEPARTMENT WITH A FULLY FUNCTIONING FORM WITH PLANTS AND ANIMALS AND WHEREAS IN 2015, THE DEAN BOZEMAN, FAA, STUDENTS PLACED IN DERRY, GATES, DAIRY GOAT SHOWMANSHIP AND TOOK FIFTH PLACE AT STATE AND ORNAMENTAL HOLD OF HORTICULTURE . THAT'S THE WORD I CAN'T SAY VERY WELL. AND THE ACCOLADES HAVE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY EVERY YEAR SINCE. AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR IN 2022, THE DEAN BOZEMAN FF, A STUDENTS WERE STATE QUALIFIERS, TAKING FIFTH PLACE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL FOOD, SCIENCE, FOURTH AND HIGH SCHOOL HORSE JUDGING FOURTH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL , DAIRY, FIFTH AND HIGH SCHOOL ORNAMENTAL OR HERE WE GO AGAIN. ORNAMENTAL HORTICULTURE PRODUCTION TOP FOUR FINALISTS AG. PROCESSING PROFICIENCY AWARD STATE WINNER SPECIALTY CROP PRODUCTION PROFICIENCY AWARD STATE WINNER OPENING AND CLOSING CEREMONIES, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. FLORIDA'S VANISH NATIONAL CHAPTER AWARD 100% F F , A MIDDLE SCHOOL MEMBERSHIP AWARD, AND ON JUNE 16TH DEAN BUSSMANN F F A WAS ANNOUNCED AS STATE CHAMPIONS IN FRONT OF 4472 PEOPLE AT THE SEVENTH GENERAL SESSION OF THE 94TH ANNUAL FLORIDA F F A CONVENTION AND EXPO. NOW THE THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMS IN BOZEMAN F F A IS FUTURE LEADERS OF BAY COUNTY AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON ALL OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING. CONGRATULATIONS I WOULD SAY I
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APOLOGIZE. YOU HAD TO GET UP SO EARLY THIS MORNING, BUT BEING FUTURE FARMERS THIS IS LIKE FOR YOU GUYS. YES. THIS IS LATE. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR THOSE OF YOU[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED ONLY TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA)]
WHO HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE OR IT'S BEEN A WHILE. WE HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN UP IS LIMITED TO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. THERE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THOSE WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THOSE AS WELL. BUT IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT ON TODAY'S AGENDA, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AT THE END OF THE MEETING, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY AUTHORITY THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE COME FORWARD. MY NAME IS CAPTAIN GARY WAYNE BACK. I LIVE AT 26. OH, ONE BEACH STREET, ADAMANT, LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT ON THE AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN THAT WE ARE FOUNDED UPON THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS, WE ARE REPUBLIC AS IN THE REPUBLIC, I HAVE COME TIME AND AGAIN. I FOUND MYSELF MR CHAIRMAN WHO DON'T OWN HIS NAME. UM I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION WHEN IT COMES TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH, TIME AND AGAIN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE WATCHED JUST RIPPED ME FROM THIS PODIUM WHEN I'M TRYING TO EXPOSE THE CRIMINAL ACTS THAT COME DIRECTLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE. MR CHAIRMAN, DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK IT COMES AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION WHEN I'M TRYING TO JUST RIPPED ME AWAY FROM THIS PODIUM WHEN I'M TRYING TO EXPOSE THE CRIMINAL ACTS THAT COME DIRECTLY AGAINST THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSCIOUS TO SHIN AND BILL OF RIGHTS. OF ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE. MR CHAIRMAN, DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK IT WAS ILLEGAL? WHENEVER YOU STRIP ME AWAY FROM THIS PODIUM WHEN I'M TRYING TO EXPOSE THE CRIMINAL ACTS OF A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE GOOD OLD BOYS, A BAKE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND MR CHAIRMAN, DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK IT WAS A CRIMINAL ACT WHEN YOU PULL ME FROM THIS PODIUM WHEN I WAS TRYING TO EXPOSE THE CRIMINAL ACTS HAS BEEN CARRIED OUT BY THE 14TH JUDICIAL AND CIVIL CASES. THAT STRIP PEOPLE OF THEIR RIGHTS, THEIR PROPERTIES AND STRONGARM, EXTORTION. MR CHAIRMAN, DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK IT COMES DIRECTLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS WHEN I WAS KIDNAPPED FOR A YEAR AND A WEEK AND I WAS NOT GAVE THE ABILITY TO PRESENT ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE IN MY DEFENSE, MR. CHAIRMAN DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK IT WAS A CRIMINAL ACT WHENEVER THEY TAKE? AND THEY USED THE MEDIA TO STEAL MY IDENTITY, SIGN MY NAME AND GET PAID FOR SOMETHING THAT I DONE, MR CHAIRMAN D, OR DO YOU NOT THINK IT WAS A CRIMINAL ACT COMES DIRECTLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS WENT OUT IN THE 14TH JUDICIAL AND I'M NOT BEING ABLE TO GET A LAWYER OR GET ANYBODY TO HELP ME BECAUSE I AM DYSLEXIC, AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR 13 YEARS AGAINST THIS CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE GOOD OLD BOYS. MR CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU DESERVE TO SIT IN THE CHAIR WHERE YOU'RE AT AFTER DESECRATE THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS TO SUCH AN EXTENT ALL OF YOU SITTING UP THERE ANY OF Y'ALL UP THERE, Y'ALL TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE CAPITAL FELONIES HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS TOWN FOR A LONG LONG TIME AND THE LAW OFFICER REMINDED ME OF FEW MINUTES AGO, HE SAID. PLEASE KEEP IT SAFE. THERE'S CHILDREN IN HERE, MR CHAIRMAN TO YOU, OR DO YOU NOT THINK ALL THESE ACTS COME DIRECTLY AGAINST THESE CHILDREN? OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO GROW UP WHERE THEY'VE GOT A QUASI JUDICIAL SYSTEM WHERE A JUDGE ACQUIRES OUR JUDICIAL MAGISTRATE WAS FOUNDED BY YOU AND THESE LAWYERS THAT DON'T RECOGNIZE THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS AND WALK OVER. MR CHAIRMAN, DO YOUR DO YOU NOT THINK THIS IS A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION CALLED THE GOOD OLD BOYS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA? YES MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. AND. THE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SERVICE. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? MA'AM RECORD, GARRETT AND I'M FROM 25 25 IN THE AVENUE. AND, UH PARENTS WERE BORN AIRPORT, FLORIDA AND I WAS A FORAGER FOR 15 YEARS AND I HEARD ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BE A COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SERVICE HERE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO OR WHAT TO DO. I JUST THOUGHT ON YOUR AGENDA. BUT YEAH OPEN AND I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS LATER ON.[00:10:07]
ALL RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU'LL STICK AROUND, BUT WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF STAFF THAT WILL BE GLAD TO HELP YOU. THINGS LIKE FROM HABITAT HUMANITY. YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE HURRICANE COMING , THIS IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU MADE. I HAVE BEEN A CAMP COUNSELOR FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, BUT I'LL WAIT TILL THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. WHAT SIGNAL WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC[I. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
PARTICIPATION WILL MOVE TO APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA, MR. BOB MICHAEL? YES, SIR. MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS GOOD MORNING ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING UNDER THE CLERK'S OFFICE, ITEM ONE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX REPORT AND CHECK REGISTER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS. ONE OF THE BUDGET OFFICE ITEM TO FY 2022 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 21 22 BUDGET UNDER THE OFFICER, COUNTY ATTORNEY ADAM THREE SURPLUS PROPERTY DESIGNATION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE COUNTY OWNED PARCELS LISTED BELOW A SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT TO ADVERTISE THE SALE OF THE PROPERTIES. ADAM FOUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT RESOLUTION FOR THE 2022 PROPERTY ABATEMENT PROGRAM AND OAKENSHAWE ROAD IMPROVEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT RESOLUTION FOR THE 2022 PROPERTY OF EIGHT MINUTES S MINT PROGRAM AND THE OAKENSHAWE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME ITEM. FIVE PRELIMINARY RATE RESOLUTION FOR STREETLIGHTS, VEGETATION REMOVAL AND STORE WATER SPECIAL ASSESSMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY RATE RESOLUTIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS PRETTY WAY STREET LIGHTING, NATIONAL STREET LIGHTING, MAGNOLIA HILL STREET LIGHTING GRAND LAGOON, SHORE STREET, LIGHTNING, WEST TWIN LAKES, VEGETATION, REMOVAL AND STORMWATER AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE RESOLUTIONS. ITEM. SIX MODIFICATION TO COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SERVICE CONTRACT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED MODIFIED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, PROVIDING FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE COASTAL RESOURCE COORDINATOR POSITION AND DIRECT THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE SAME UNDER COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. TDC APPOINTMENT CONFIRMATION STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD CONFIRMED THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH. TDC APPOINTMENT RECOMMENDATION MIKE JANSSEN TO FILL THE VACANT COLLECTOR SEAT TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST 2023 UNDER GENERAL SERVICES, AUTOMATE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE JAIL GENERATOR REPLACEMENT PROJECT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. JAIL GENERATED REPLACEMENT INVITATION TO BID 22-43 AND THE AMOUNT OF $258,859.52 THE CJ SALES AND SERVICES OF OCALA INC. AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN OF EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ADAM NINE, BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE GENERATOR REPLACEMENT PROJECT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS . THE BOARD AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE GENERATION GENERATOR REPLACEMENT PROJECT. I T B 22-44 AND THE AMOUNT OF $264,094.01 TO CJ SALES AND SERVICES OF OCALA INK AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES ITEM. 10 EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD TERMINATE THE CURRENT EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH LIFE MANAGEMENT BY PROVIDING A 30 DAY WRITTEN NOTICE WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF AUGUST 31ST 2022 CONTRACT WITH THE FLORIDA SHERIFF'S EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS TRUST TO PROVIDE EMPLOYEES SINCE THIS PROGRAM SERVICES TO OUR EMPLOYEES EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST 2022. UNDER OUTSIDE AGENCIES. ITEM 11 CAREER SOURCE. GULF COAST 22 23 BUDGET STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CAREER SOURCE. GULF COAST FY 22 23 BUDGET, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ITEM. 12 JAG AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD APPROVED THE FLIGHT 22 US DOJ DIRECT BURNS LOCAL GRANT FOR $28,049. FOR OFFENDER REGISTRY SYSTEM AND COMPUTERS AND FOR ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER UNDER UTILITY SERVICES ITEM 13. THE MILITARY POINT ADVANCED WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES SWITCHGEAR REPLACEMENT PROJECT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE MILITARY POINT ADVANCED WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY. SWITCHGEAR REPLACEMENT PROJECT HURRICANE MICHAEL. DDR 4399 OF TSC ELECTRICAL COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,000,310 $2,310,012. AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ADAM 14 SPRINGFIELD WATER CONNECTIONS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED SPRINGFIELD'S REQUEST FOR A NEW SIX INCH MASTER METER INSTALLED AT 11 41 TRANSMITTER ROAD AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE AND MODIFY THE CORRESPONDENT. CONTRACT AMENDMENT AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ADAM 15 DIG GRANT S 0185 STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD RATIFIED THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. DEFENSE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT AGREEMENT NUMBERS 0185 AND THE AMOUNT OF $250,000 FOR THE DESIGN ENGINEERING AND PERMITTING REQUIRED TO DECOUPLE THE MEXICO BEACH. FORCED MILLION FROM TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE IS LIFT STATION AND EXTEND THE FORCE NAME AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO MAKE ANY REQUIRED MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS OF MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION. SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER
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GRIFFITH, COMMISSIONER MORE YES , MA'AM. MR YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER HAM? YES MA'AM[16. Proposed Maximum Millage Rate FY23]
CHAIRMAN CAROL? YES MA'AM. MOVING ON TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM . 16 BUDGET OFFICE PROPOSED MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR. 2023 MISS MARINA GRIFFITH. I KNOW THIS IS YOUR FAVORITE TO COME UP IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. YES. FAVORITE TIME. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING IS A MEMO FOR THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATES FOR NOVEMBER'S TAX BILLS. THESE RATES ARE LISTED THAT ARE LISTED BEFORE YOU ARE THE SAME AS LAST NOVEMBER. GRAPES ARE AS FOLLOWS GENERAL FUND FOUR POINT 4362. MOSQUITO CONTROL 0.20. UM STU FIRE SERVICES 1.380. I ASK THAT YOU HOLD ANY DISCUSSION YOU NEED TO ABOUT THESE RATES. THEN APPROVE RATES AND AUTHORIZED CERTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS APPRECIATE YOU THE HARD WORK EVERY TIME WE SIT DOWN EARLIER IN THE SUMMER, IT'S ALWAYS VERY UGLY. WE APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DUE TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE MILLAGE AGAIN. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY LIKEWISE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK AND THAT CONSTITUTIONAL THAT IT TOOK A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION. YOUR STAFF HAS DONE KEEPING THAT MILITARY FLAT LIKE WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO WHAT? WE'VE ALL SET UP HERE, SO WE HAVE EXCELLENT STAFF. ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE RUSSIAN MOTION. EXACTLY MULTIPLE MOTION MULTIPLE SECONDS. SO GOOD LUCK GIVEN SOMEONE CREDIT. CONFLICTS. COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH YES, MA'AM . COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZER COMMISSIONER HAN? YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN CAROL?[17. Rental Development Proposals]
YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON THE HOUSING SERVICES RENTAL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS ITEM. 17 MISS TAMMY HARRIS. GOOD MORNING. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN APPROVAL FOR FUNDING FOR THREE RENTAL DEVELOPMENTS. THEIR PROPOSALS WERE FOR TWO MILLION EACH FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MILLION WERE ASKING, UM TO AUTHORIZE TO AWARD THE SIX MILLION TO THE THREE RENTAL DEVELOPMENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO SIGN FORTHCOMING CONTRACTS AND RESOLUTIONS. UM. BRIEF SUMMARY IS ON APRIL 27TH HOUSING SERVICES ISSUED AN R F Q FOR RENTAL DEVELOPMENTS FOR SIX MILLION TOTAL, WHICH IS THE ALLOWABLE SET ASIDE FROM THE HURRICANE HOUSING RESPONSE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED, SO THAT WAS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT WERE ALLOWED TO AWARD OUT. TO DEVELOPERS. WE RECEIVED THE THREE PROPOSALS AND THEY WERE REVIEWED BY A COUNTY STAFF COMMITTEE AND ALSO BY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. BOTH RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO BRING THOSE FORWARD TO TODAY. ANY QUESTIONS STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO, UH, FIRST OFF IF YOU COULD.TELL US THE LOCATIONS. THERE'S TWO OF THESE. TELL US THE LOCATIONS AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COST AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT UM, FILLING THESE COMPLEXES AND IF YOU COULD JUST ADDRESS THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY? AH! THE FIRST WE'VE GOT TO PROPOSALS FROM, UH, THAT ARE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BAY COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY OR AND PAINT THEM ALL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ROLL AMERICAN, THEIR FLETCHER BLACK ONE AND TWO UH, FLETCHER BLACK ONE IS PROPOSED TO BE 100 UNITS. TOTAL COST 24 MILLION. IT'S LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF BALBOA AVENUE AND 11TH STREET. AH! THEY ALSO RECEIVED ONE OF THE MANDATORY QUALIFICATIONS UNDER THE R F Q WAS TO HAVE RECEIVED TAX CREDIT AWARD FUNDING FROM FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE. I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVE 20 MILLION SO THEY WERED OFF OF THAT WITH OUR AWARD. NOW WE ALSO DO HAVE THE DEVELOPERS ARE ALSO HERE TODAY IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. UM THE TOTAL COST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. I BELIEVE I SAID IT'S 24 MILLION. AND THEN THE PHASE TWO IS 64 UNITS. TOTAL COST IS 15 MILLION. IT'S LOCATED IN THE SAME LOCATION. BOTH DEVELOPMENTS. WOULD BREAK GROUND BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I BELIEVE, AND I KNOW OUR GOAL AND THEIR GOAL TO IS TO BE COMPLETE BY MARCH OF 2024. BECAUSE THIS GRANTS DEADLINE IS JUNE. 2024 THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO WRAP
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EVERYTHING UP. THEY ALSO RECEIVED 11 MILLION FROM FLORIDA HOUSING, FINANCE AND TAX CREDITS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEN WE'VE GOT BETTER WE LOCATED AT, UM FLORIDA AVENUE IN 19TH STREET.THAT IS 144 UNITS AND, UH. THEY RECEIVED 16.5 MILLION IN FLORIDA HOUSING TAX CREDITS THEY WERE REWARDED. AND UM, THIS IS A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 308 UNITS WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS COMBINED, WHICH COULD EASILY HOUSE 1000 RESIDENTS. UH HUH. THESE ARE ALSO A FOREIGN CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. SO WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE AWARDING IS VERY CRUCIAL BECAUSE UNDER FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE, WE HAVE TO MEET A 30% OF OUR FUNDING 30% OF OUR 36 MILLION, WHICH IS 11 MILLION HAS TO BE AWARDED TO 50% AM I AND UNDER THAT IS VERY LOW TO EXTREMELY LOW INCOME. THAT'S A VERY HARD SET ASIDE TO MEET WITH THIS EXTREME WITH THIS LARGE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WILL BE ABLE TO MEET A SLIGHTLY OVER HALF. WITH JUST THESE PROJECTS. UH SO WE'RE WE'RE ON A GOOD WAY THERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY MEETING IT A LITTLE BIT WITH LIKE OUR PURCHASE ASSISTANCE IN OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. HMM. ALSO WE HAVE TO MEET 20% OF OUR FUNDING OF R 36 MILLION HAS TO BE SET ASIDE FOR PERSONS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. THAT'S SEVEN MILLION. BETTER WAY OF SETTING ASIDE 12 UNITS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS CLIENTS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DESIGNATED TO US AS PART OF OUR FUNDING OPPORTUNITY HERE. BUT ALSO IN IN SAYING THAT, UM AND HELPING US MEET OUR SET ASIDES. THE L HAVE THE COMMISSIONER'S PROVED IN DECEMBER. UNDER THIS RENTAL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY. THE WAY IT'S OUTLINED. IT'S $100,000 PER UNIT. NOW THAT'S AN ABUNDANCE. NORMALLY YOU WOULD SEE 20,000 PER UNIT IN A STANDARD UM, LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN WITH A LITTLE LESS CITY OR GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE AWARDING HALF A MILLION 200,000 SMALLER AMOUNT. WE'RE AWARDING 100,000 PER UNIT. SO AT TWO MILLION WITH OUR SIX AT TWO MILLION A DEVELOPMENT IN ESSENCE THAT BUYS US 20 UNITS. IN EACH DEVELOPMENT. SO WE GET TO CHOOSE THE VERY LOWEST OF INCOME UNITS THAT ARE BEING SET ASIDE AND ALSO ANY SPECIAL NEEDS. SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS GOING TO MEET THESE VERY HARD TO MEET AND CAPTURE CATEGORIES THAT ARE MANDATORY UNDER OUR GRANT. OKAY, WELL, FIRST OFF. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK YELLING DONE YOU AND ALSO PANAMA CITY PARTNERING AND I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
AND WHEN I CAME AND SPOKE TO YOU EARLY ON ABOUT THIS, THIS WHOLE SITUATION ABOUT THE COMPLEX. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE, UM AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. BUT YOU, YOU YOU ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS AND PUT ME AT EASE. AND UH, IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT NOBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO.
THIS IS NOT A MOVE IN FOR FREE AND LIVE FOR FREE OFF THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS A THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE TRULY BEING ABLE TO HELP. THE LOWER INCOME, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY PLACE TO LIVE. AND THEN MOVE UP FROM THERE. IT'S ON A SLIDING SCALE. AND IT'S JUST A PORTION OF THE OF THE UNITS. IN THE BIGGER PICTURE. AND SO, SO THAT HELPED ME A LOT BECAUSE I SHARED WITH YOU. MY CONCERNS ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND OTHER PLACES, PROVIDING FREE PLACES TO LIVE AND THAT JUST IN MY OPINION THAT JUST CREATES BLIGHT, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM AFTER I GOT LOOKING AT IT, AND I'M JUST APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. SO WE HAVE A LOCATION ON 11TH STREET AND LOCATION ON FLORIDA AVENUE. SO THAT'S GONNA GO A LONG WAYS TO HELPING US GET BACK AND GET OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING BACK IN PLACE TO WHERE WE CAN FEEL SOME OF THESE POSITIONS AROUND TOWN THAT ARE OPEN ALL THE TIME. AND KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY. WE CAN HELP GET OUR LOW INCOME CLIENTS OUT FROM UNDER THOSE EXTREMELY HIGH BRANDS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE NOW THAT WE CANNOT CONTROL ANYWAY. DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF YOU HAD ANY
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QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPERS THIS MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THEM OUT. WITH, UH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. QUESTIONS STAFF. NO JUST AGAIN. THANKS TO THIS, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER OVER SAYING, THIS IS ABOUT MORE OF A HAND UP, SORT OF AND OUT, SO THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR THESE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THOSE POSITIONS TO WORK THEMSELVES TO BETTER PLACE AND THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT AS AS YOU KNOW, IT GIVES THEM GIVES THEM A PLACE TO LIVE AGAIN. THESE THESE RENDERINGS HARVARD VERY NICE. IT LOOKS LIKE THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY NICE PLACES. AND THEN AS THEY MOVE UP THE LADDER AND MOVE ON TO BETTER PLACES THAT YOU KNOW IT FREES UP ANOTHER SPOT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO COME IN AND NEEDS THE NEED TO HANDLE HELPING HAND AS WELL. SO GOOD JOB FOR ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE KNOW THERE'S A NEED OUT THERE EVEN AS MUCH HOUSING AS THERE IS BEING CONSTRUCTED. THERE'S STILL THIS NEED THAT WE NEED TO FEEL AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE RUDE TO PARTNER UP AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE HAVE A MOTION. WELL I'D LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENT TO YEAH. OKAY SO TELL ME I JUST WORKED WITH YOU A LOT ON THIS WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY ON WHAT BILL WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE TEARS WITH THE AM I IN THE RENTAL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS SET BY THE STATE EVERY YEAR BASED ON WHAT AM I IS, IF YOU'RE 50% OF OUR AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME IRAN IS GONNA BE SAID AT X AMOUNT. IF YOU'RE 30% IT'S GOING TO BE SET AT WHY SO IT'S SET BY THE STATE. BUT IT IS. PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO PAY TO GET IN. BUT IT IS. THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO FALL IN THAT 80 TO 50% OF AMI THAT ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN TALKING TO EACH ONE OF US ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY QUOTIENT. AND THIS IS GONNA BE VERY MUCH AFFECT THAT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX OF HOW TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS. WE'VE GOT. HMM USE THESE FUNDS HAS 36 MILLION APPROPRIATELY AND MAKE SURE WE CHECK THE PROPER BOXES AS WELL. THAT WAS PHENOMENAL.WORK ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT YOU'VE JUST HEARD IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LAWYER AND A COUNTRY BOY. MM HMM. I SAID THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. WE NOW HAVE EMOTION, PLEASE MOTION SECOND MOTION, MULTIPLE SECONDS ROLL COMPLEX. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. YES MA'AM. MR GRIFFITH? YES, COMMISSIONER HAM CAROL? YES, MA'AM? ALRIGHT. WILL COME BACK TO ITEM 18 WILL MOVE
[18. Appeal of Development Order 21-196 (McKenzie Offloading Facility)]
[19. PZ22-154 Small Scale Amendment - 1616 Alison Avenue]
ON ITEM 19 PC 22-154 THIS A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT 16 16 ALYSON AVENUE, MR WAYNE PORTER.THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. ON JUNE 21ST 2022, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 7.8 ACRES FROM PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL TO RESIDENTIAL SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 16 16 ALYSON AVENUE IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING , THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH A COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HISTORICALLY, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED AS A CHURCH. THOSE FACILITIES WERE DAMAGED DURING HURRICANE MICHAEL. HAVE NOT BEEN REPAIRED. ACTUALLY, THAT STRUCTURE HAS BEEN REMOVED. THE LAND USED TO THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST. IS RESIDENTIAL WITH A MIXTURE OF SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY USES. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH. YOU HAVE GENERAL COMMERCIALS, WHICH IS AN RV PARK. GIVEN THE MIX OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND USE AND ZONING AND THEY MEET AN AREA STAFF FEELS THAT THE DESIRED CHANGE. HIS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. STAFF AGREED TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING. APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED WARDENS. ANY QUESTIONS SOUTH. NO NO QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ON HERE IF THIS MOVES FORWARD AS AN R FIVE, A UH, AND NOW THAT WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING NEXT LITTLE IDENTIFY THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 50 FT. CORRECT. CORRECT THE NEXT THE NEXT REQUEST. THE NEXT HEARING IS FOR THE ZONING PORTION OF THIS AND THEY ARE REQUESTING ARE FIVE A, WHICH IS MULTI FAMILY LIFE. AND THAT HAS A HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF 50 FT.
50 FT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP BEING SURROUNDED, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF RED THERE FOR COMMERCIAL BUT BEING SURROUNDED BY THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THEIR COMMUNITY 50. FT IS THE MAX, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT BIG IMPACT ON HEIGHT FOR THEM. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTIONS STUFF. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THE APPLICANT HERE LIKE THE PRESENTATION. PLEASE TAKE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RAY
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GREER. MY ADDRESS IS 29 10 CARRY FORCE PARKWAY, FLORIDA. I AM THE APPLICANTS, REPRESENTATIVE. 7.8 ACRES. UM, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THIS. WE'VE CHANGED THE RESIDENTIAL GOING TO GET TO OUR FIVE A. WE'RE PROPOSING A TOWN ON DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHY WE'VE LIMITED THE HEIGHT. SO THERE THE HEIGHT AND COMPATIBILITY ISSUES SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. WILL BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE ZONE AND THAT'S DOING A LOWER DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN HOMES ON IT , PROVIDING THE MIX OF USES IN THAT INSIDE THAT AREA. QUESTIONS AFTER I'VE GOT ONE, RIGHT? UM THIS PART OF THE WORLD RIGHT HERE SUFFERS FROM DRAINAGE ISSUES BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ROADS ARE PRIVATE. YEAH CAN YOU TELL US WHAT Y'ALL SOLUTIONS ARE TO MAINTAIN ALL THOSE THIS WATER IN THAT STORY OF HIM? SURE YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, THIS AREA WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO STORMWATER WE AS WE HAVE TODAY, AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS WAYNE AND MENTIONED THE TIGHT WAS DAMAGED. THE CHURCH WAS REMOVED. LOT OF THE WATER, AND IT'S BEEN PEOPLE ADDRESSING THEIR OWN FLOODING ISSUES, THE WATER DIRECTED TO THIS PROPERTY, SO THERE IS FLOODING ISSUES IN THIS AREA. BUT WE WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT CAPTURE THAT THERE IS A SMALL POND THAT WAS ON THE SIDE, BUT STORMWATER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE WATER COMING ON THE SIDE, TOO. THANK YOU. THIS DRAINAGE RACING IS PROBABLY GONNA REQUIRE 100 YEAR STORM IF I HAD TO. YES SO, YEAH , IT'S BAD. P PREPARED FOR THAT.OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE AFRICAN THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON PC 22-154 , PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. SAYING, NO, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION DO HAVE EMOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION IN A SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES MA'AM COMMISSIONER HAM COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER GROUP IT. YES,
[20. PZ22-155 Zone Change - 1616 Allison Avenue]
MA'AM. CHAIRMAN CAROL? YES, MA'AM. NEXT ITEM. 20 PZ 22-155. THIS IS THE ZONING CHANGE FOR 16 16 ALYSON AVENUE. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN IN SWEAR. AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH? NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU . PARTY. FOR MONEY OR OTHER PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE PROPERTY SPOKEN AROUND THE PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO ONE PROPERTY SPOKEN AND THAT ONE THANK YOU. APPLE'S YOURS. THANK YOU AGAIN ON JUNE 21ST 2022. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER REQUEST. TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF PRACTICE 7.8 ACRES FROM PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL TO R FIVE. A MULTI FAMILY LIFE. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 16 16 HOURS IN AVENUE IN THE END INCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE OZONE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND OF ELEMENT REGULATIONS. AGAIN HISTORICALLY, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED TO CHURCH CAMPUS. UM. THE LAND USED TO THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST, PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY. BUT THERE'S ALSO A MULTI FAMILY ARE FIVE ZONING DESIGNATION ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST ON ELLISON AVENUE. GIVEN THE MIX OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND USES AND ZONING IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE DESIRED CHANGES CONSISTENT, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USE AND ZONING STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. RECOMMENDED THE BOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING APPROVED THE OZONE CHANGE AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.MR PORTER. WHAT'S THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY AND OR FIVE AND THE BEACHES SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE HERE, IT'S 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION. NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. MR PUBLIC, HEAR ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ARMY? MORE THAN WHAT GONNA COME TO THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. RIGHT, SAYING, NO, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND LOOK FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE 2ND 2ND ROLE COMPLEX. COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER MORE COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM. 21 PZ 22-140 ZONING
[21. PZ 22-140 - Zone Change – 4403 Highway 231]
CHANGE 44 OR THREE HIGHWAY 2 31. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING. THOSE WISHING TO OFFER TESTIMONY. PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN. WHERE ARE FIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE YEAR WILL BE THE TRUTH? OLD TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU. EXPORT DISCLOSURE I HAVE KNOWN THE PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE PROPERTY OF NOT SPEAKING TO HIM. THE PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE FAMILIAR PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE. THANK YOU. MR SHORT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. ON JUNE 21ST 2022. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 3.14 ACRES FROM C ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. TO[00:35:02]
THE C THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LOW ZONE DISTRICT. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 44 OH THREE HIGHWAY TO 31 IN THE END INCORPORATED PANAMA CITY AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. TO REQUEST THE CHAIN. THE CHANGE THE CHANGE IS OWNING. TWO C THREE B APPROVED WHILE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS NOT A PROVIDED WITH THIS APPLICATION, GIVING THEM THE SITE'S FUTURE. LAND USE DESIGNATION IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. IS LOCATED ALONG IN OUR TOUR ROADWAY IN A PORTION OF THE SIDE ADJOINS C THREE, A PROPERTY ALONG THE WEST.REQUESTED ZONING WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPERTIES. TEACHER LANDES MAP DESIGNATION INCONSISTENT CONDITIONS. FOR THESE REASONS. STAFF SUPPORTS REQUESTED CHANGE FROM C ONE TO C THREE. A STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND FUNDS REQUESTED ZONE CHANGES. THREE A CONSISTENT WITH A COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AND THEREFORE RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING. AND APPROVE THE REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE. QUESTIONS AND STUFF. ALRIGHT SAYING NO, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION OR SPEAK. YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN, SIR. RIGHT? INDUSTRY ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH. THE WHOLE TRUTH BUT TRUTH IF YOU GO YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR STATE. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. MY NAME IS DAN TRAN. I LIVE AT 390 LIKE SAND PINE EIGHT, UH, STAND FAR AWAY ON HERE, REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNER. I'M HERE. JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS, UM APPARENTLY, THE PROPOSED THE ONE JUST DOESN'T FIT THE NEW BUYERS . UH PLANS AND HIS PLANS IS JUST TO PUT A HEART WASH THEIR SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE SHOW. BY SAYING NO MORE CLOTHES IN PUBLIC PORTION MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION. SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE COMMISSIONER GROUP YES, COMMISSIONER HAN COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN CAROL? YES, MA'AM. UH HM. 22 I AM ACTUALLY
[22. PZ 22-156 - Zone Change – N. of School Dr. & E. of Laird Park Rd.]
GOING TO RECUSE. MY FIRM IS WORKING WITH THIS APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT. OUR NEXT QUEEN. WE HAVE OUT OF NUMBER 22 PZ 22-156. ZONE CHANGE NORTH OF SCHOOL DRIVING EAST OF LAYERED PARK.THIS IS A QUASAR JUDICIAL, SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SWEAR YOU.
ALL THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE STANDING BEFORE. YOU SWEAR? AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE THE TRUTH? THE WHOLE TRUTH? NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU. THE PLANE.
WHAT WAS YOUR DISCLOSURE? I'M SORRY. EXPORTING. SORRY. YEAH. NONE FOR ME, NOT FOR ME. NO, OKAY. ON JUNE 21ST 2022, THE BACON BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING. TO CONSIDER REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF FOUR PARCELS HAVING APPROXIMATELY TOTAL ACREAGE OF 10.5 ACRES. FROM THE R FIVE MULTI FAMILY AND OUR TWO SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS OWN DISTRICTS TO THE WBC WEST BASED CENTER ZONE DISTRICT. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE REQUEST. CHANGES OWNING WBC BE APPROVED. WHILE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS NOT PROVIDED WITH THE APPLICATION, GIVEN THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAPS DESIGNATION OF THE FOUR PARCELS IS WEST BASED CENTER. REQUESTED ZONING WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF THESE PROPERTIES. IT'S FOR THIS REASON THAT STAFF SUPPORTS REQUESTED CHANGE FROM R FIVE AND R TWO WBC. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FUNDS REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE TO WBC CONSISTENT WITH BACON CARRY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AND RECOMMENDED THE BOARD CONDUCT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING. AND APPROVE THE REQUEST. DON'T CHANGE AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
COMMENTS. NO. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYONE ELECTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING. I'M RAY GREER. MY ADDRESS IS 29 10 CARRIED FORCE PARKWAY TALLIS IN FLORIDA AND I AM THE AFRICANS REPRESENTATIVE. IN 2015. WHEN THE BAY WALTON SECTOR PLAN WAS ADOPTED AS GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE BAYWATCH SECTOR PLAN. THE WEST BAY AREA. OUTSIDE OF THE SECTOR PLAN. THE SECTOR PLAN PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDS THIS AREA. WHAT THE COUNTY ALLOWED WAS FOR THE RESIDENTS. IT WAS A REQUEST OF THE WEST BAY RESIDENTS. IS THAT THEY COULD UTILIZE THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORIES. ZONING CATEGORIES AS A SECTOR PLAN. AND
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THE ONLY CATCH WAS NATURALLY THEY HAD TO APPLY FOR IT. SO THIS PROPERTY OWNERS ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR LAND USE CHANGE BACK IN 16 16 4017. IT WAS GRANTED, BUT THE ZONING WAS NEVER CHANGED. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY IS JUST TO GET THOSE OWNING TO MATCH THE WEST BASED CENTER TO ACTUALLY MATCH THE FUTURE LANGUAGE CONSISTENT. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WAIT, RAY. QUICK QUESTION. UM DO EXPECT ANY OF THESE OTHER PARCELS TO FOLLOW SUIT? I MEAN, WHY WASN'T THE ZONING CHANGE THAT THIS WAS NOT SURE? 16 I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY DIDN'T DO THE ZONING CHANGE WHEN THEY CHANGE THE LINE USE I DIDN'T HANDLE IT. THAT WASN'T PART OF IT. DO YOU THINK SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES WILL FINALLY TAKE NOTE OF WHAT'S GOING ON? IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? WE'VE BEEN SEEING THIS AREA. WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL CHANGING HERE. I'VE DONE A COUPLE IN THIS AREA. I THINK IT'S PEOPLE FIND OUT AS THIS AREA CONTINUES TO DEVELOP THE WEST BANK AREA. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE CHANGE TO THE SECTOR PLAN LAND USES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. IS ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. SEE YOU. NONE WILL CLOSE FORWARD. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND SECOND , PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. MR. GRIFFITH YES, MA'AM. VICE CHAIRMAN. HAM YES, MA'AM
[23. PZ22-165 - Small Scale Amendment - 7608 Hwy 77]
UPSTAIRS. MOVE ON ISLAND 23 PC 22-165. THIS IS A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT. 76 08 HIGHWAY 77.THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN ON JUNE 21ST 2022. THE BACON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER REQUEST TO CHANGE FUTURE MANU THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF PRACTICALLY 0.8 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 76 08 HIGHWAY 77 IN THE SOUTHPORT AREA. THE INCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH BIG COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON HIGHWAY 77 A QUARTER OR WHERE GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS CURRENTLY EXIST.
HIGHWAY 77 IS IDENTIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO VERIFIED THAT A COMMERCIAL ACCESS CONNECTION FROM HIGHWAY 77 COULD BE APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ADOPTED ATTACHED ORDINANCE. ANY QUESTIONS? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE ACTUALLY ADDRESS THIS PROPERTY COUPLE OF MEETINGS PRIOR THIS WHAT WHAT'S CAUSING US TO VISIT IT AGAIN? THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST HAS NOT BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD THAT OKAY, SO THAT WAS ORIGINAL TALKS. REMEMBER BEGAN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND NEVER CAME BEFORE THE BOARD ABOUT CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE ZONING TO COMMERCIAL AT THAT TIME. THE PROPERTY WAS A LOT SMALLER, SMALLER. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS SINCE PURCHASED THE ADJACENT PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND MERGED THEM TOGETHER. UM BUT THERE WAS AN ACCESS ISSUE THEN. AND WE HAD SAID THAT OKAY, GET ACCESS FROM HOWIE 77. WE COULD. MOVE FORWARD RECOMMEND HAVE DONE THAT, BUT THEY'VE ALSO ACQUIRED MORE LAND. SO THIS NOW PROVIDES THEM BETTER ACCESS AND MORE LAND FOR PARKING. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS BEFORE THAT. ESPECIALLY SET THEM UP FOR FAILURE. IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO GO TO COMMERCIAL, AND THEY COULD IMPORTANT I COULDN'T GET IN THERE. YES? OKAY? THE QUESTION OF STAFF. YEP IS THE AFRICAN HERE LIKE TO DO PRESENTATION? GOOD MORNING, YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLACE. YEAH, RIGHT. HARRIS 25, WEST OAK, PANAMA CITY. I'M JUST ON BEHALF OF THE AFRICAN. SHE'S NOT HERE AT THE TIME, BUT BASICALLY EXACTLY WHAT WAYNE SAID. GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? AREN'T SAYING THAT WE'RE CLOSE THE FLOOR. MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE 2ND 2ND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH? YES COMMISSIONER MORE. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL?
[24. PZ22-166 - Zone Change - 7608 Hwy 77]
YES MA'AM. MOVING ON 24. PC 22-166. THIS IS THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PREVIOUS REQUEST.76 WEIGHT. HOWIE 77. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL SO ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK YEAH. THESE WERE AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE ABOUT TO GIVE THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH. NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU, EDDIE EXPORT A I HAVE KNOWN. I HAVE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. I'VE BEEN THERE
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BUT NOT SPOKEN. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER AND FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY SPOKEN ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU FOR YOURS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN AGAIN ON JUNE 21ST 2022, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION. CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST. TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.8 ACRES FROM OUR TWO SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS TO SEE THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 76 08 HIGHWAY 77 IN THE SOUTH COURT AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED ON CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON HIGHWAY 77, A CORRIDOR WHERE THE REQUESTED C THREE ZONING AND USES CURRENTLY EXIST. HOW IS 77 IS IDENTIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PROPERTY HAS APPROXIMATELY 100 AND 50 FT OF FRONTAGE ALONG HIGHWAY 77, APPROXIMATELY 340 FT OF FRONTAGE ALONG THE BALL PARK ROAD. A MINIMUM OF 100 FT OF FRONTAGE IS REQUIRED FOR THE C THREE ZONING DESIGNATION. AGAIN THE APPLICANT IS ALSO VERIFIED THAT THEY GET A COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY ACCESS OFF HOW HE 77 FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND APPROVED THE PROS. AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. I'M SORRY. THERE IS NO CONDITION.
MEMORANDUM SAYS CONDITIONS BUT THAT'S AN ERROR. CONDITIONS BEING PROPOSED BY STAFF QUESTIONS. HMM. NOW, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OF ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. YOU WANT TO COME? WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SAYING NO, WE WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR TO HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION. SECOND RULE COMPLEX. COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER MORE YES , MA'AM. COMMISSIONER YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT 25 P. C $22.00 TO 5. THIS IS A ZONING
[25. PZ22-025 - Zone Change - 2734 E. Hwy 390]
CHANGE REQUEST 27 34 EAST HIGHWAY 3 90. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL WHICH MARKS THOSE WISHING TO EVEN SPEAK. PLEASE STAND IN HIS WARRANT. THESE WERE AFFIRMED THAT THE EVIDENCE WAS ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH. THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.EXPORTING I HAVEN'T KNOWN THE PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE PROPERTY SPOKEN PROPERLY SPOKEN TO NO ONE FAMILIAR PROPERTY SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. ON MAY 17TH 2022. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST. CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 1.6 ACRES FROM C ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO SEE THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 27 34 EAST HIGHWAY 90 IN THE END INCORPORATED LYNN HAVEN AREA AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PRO ZONE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND IS LOCATED IN A COMMERCIAL AREA ALONG EAST HIGHWAY 3 90 WERE SEVERAL GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USES AND ZONING IS ALREADY EXIST. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO OPERATE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WITH EQUIPMENT STORAGE, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCT A LARGER BUILDING ON THE PREMISE. THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL HIS OWN PROPERTIES ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE MINIMUM 25 FT. LANDSCAPE BUFFER WHEN DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONES. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. QUESTIONS DOWN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN THE SARAH, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
GOOD MORNING. I'M JEFFERY HALE'S LOCATED 63 19 OPEN HOLE. AND I'VE JUST GOT AN INTEREST IN BUILDING A COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE WITH WAREHOUSE STORAGE ON PROPERLY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? AFRICAN APPLICANT . YOU RECOGNIZE THERE'S A 25 FT BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL SPACE. YES SURE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE? THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISLAND. SIGNAL CLOSE THE FLOOR. MOTION APPROVED 2ND 2ND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER DOZER . YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH? YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL? YES, MA'AM. MOVING ON ITEM 26 PZ
[26. PZ22-136 - Small Scale Amendment - 9322 Highway 77]
22-136. THIS IS A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT. 93 22 HIGHWAY 77. MR PORTER. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN.[00:50:07]
ON JUNE 21ST 2022, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST. CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 8.37 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE AND RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 93 22 HIGHWAY 77 IN THE SOUTHPORT AREA. THE INCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THE PLANNING COMMISSION. VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SUBJECT. PARCEL CURRENTLY HAS A SPLIT FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATION AND IS BORDERED BY A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE WEST AND BACON COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST. COMMERCIAL AND USE AND ZONING TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST IS DEVELOPED BY THE ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE. ACROSS FROM EDWARD ROAD TO THE NORTH PROPERTIES DEVELOPED BY THE ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE IN THE BAKE IN BAY COUNTY FOR USE AS THE NORTH BAY WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY. PROPERTY TO THE EAST INCLUDES UNDEVELOPED COMMERCIAL ZONE PARCELS CONSIDERING THE HIGHWAY 77 IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. AND THERE IS EXISTING GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST WEST AND SOUTH OF THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS AN APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE TAX ORDINANCE. AGAIN THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS BEING RECOMMENDED WITH THIS, OKAY? THANK YOU, MR PORTER. ANY QUESTIONS STAFF? WAYNE IS THAT PATCH ON THE BOTTOM WHERE IT INCLUDES THAT LITTLE PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL THAT JUST MISTAKE OR IS IT? NO THAT'S THAT'S A THAT WAS A SEPARATE PARCEL. THE OWNER ABOUT BOTH PARCELS. AND THEN MERGE THEM INTO ONE. BUT THAT HAD A RED THAT HAD RESIDENTIAL LAND USE AND ZONING. PRIOR TO THAT MERGED WITHOUT THAT PIECE. HE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS, WOULD HE? THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO HAVE ENOUGH. ACCESS ALONG HIGHWAY 77. PEACE I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT PIECE THAT RUNS ALONG EDWARDS ROAD THAT'S OWN RESIDENTIAL OR BLAMED USE RESIDENTIAL IS A LOT OF RECORD BECAUSE IT LOOKS PRETTY SMALL. IT'S ODD, AND IT'S NOT OWNED BY THIS PROPERTY OWNER. SO THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT HAVE RUNNERS LONG EDWARDS ROAD I THINK THE COOP ELECTRICAL ACTUALLY OWNS THAT PIECE. COOL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS, OTTO. SAYING NO, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC QUESTION . YES, SIR. BACK OUT A LITTLE BIT. JUST BACK IT OUT SO WE CAN SEE MORE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. JUST ACROSS THE STREET AND BUTTON PROPERTIES RESIDENTIAL JUST LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT CLOSED. WE HAVE MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION OF SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH. YES, COMMISSIONER HAM. YES MA'AM.
MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZER CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM. LAST ITEM ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
[27. PZ22-137 Zone Change - 9322 Highway 77]
. PC 22-137 ZONING CHANGE 93 22 HIGHWAY 77. THIS IS A QUADRANT JUDICIAL. THANKS. YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH? THE WHOLE TRUTH? NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.THANK YOU. EXPORTING EXPLOSION. I HAVE KNOWN. I HAVE NONE. REMEMBER THE PROPERTY AND SPOKEN TO PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO. ONE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN ON JUNE 21ST 2022. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST. CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 8.3 ACRES FROM A G ONE AGRICULTURE AND OUR TWO SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS TO SEE THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 93 22 HIGHWAY 77 SOUTHPORT AREA AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BIG COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AGAIN THIS SUBJECT PARCEL HAS A SPLIT LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATION. YOU HAVE PROPERTY. TO THE WEST, DEVELOPED BY THE ELECTRIC CO OPT NOT TO THE NORTH. YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL HIS OWN PROPERTIES. THAT ARE VACANT. IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL USES. UM HMM. GIVEN THAT STAFF FEELS THAT THE AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE BOARD HEARING AND APPROVE THE PROS ZONE CHANGE. ANY QUESTIONS STAFF ? SO WAYNE, SEE THAT PARCEL AGAIN AT THE TOP, SO IT HAD A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE BUT A COMMERCIAL ZONE. I NOTICED THAT BEFORE TWO AM NOT SURE IF THAT'S
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A METAPHOR OR NOT, OKAY? SO WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST COUPLE OF PARCELS THAT WERE COMMERCIAL USE AND WE ASKED THEM TO CHANGE UPDATE THOSE RESIST A PARTIAL THAT WE WOULD DO THE SAME JUST TO MAKE EVERYTHING A COMPLIANT. IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO HAVE THE ZONING THAT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE LAND. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD GAIN BY CHANGING THE ZONING. IT'S THERE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH. THE LAND THAT'S INCORRECT. THEY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.THEY WOULD NEED TO CORRECT THAT. BUT IF ANYONE WANTED TO DO IT, YEAH, I MEAN, OTHER THAN MY DRIVEWAY CONNECTION. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE COOP OWNS THAT THE COOPER OWNS AND I'M LOOKING AT IT ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE AND IT'S PART OF THE STRUCTURE. WE SHOULD MAYBE WE STAFF SHOULD REACH OUT TO THE CROP AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S A MAPPING ERROR. IF THERE IS WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS DOWN. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SAYING NO, WE WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND LOOK FOR RECOMMENDATION MOTION TO CHANGE. THE SECTION. MOTION A SECOND COMPLEX COMMISSION AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. MR. HAMM CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP PUNK, JUST PATIENT REPORTS AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO 18 THAT WITH ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE MEETING
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AND LEAVE, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SO WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE RELATED TO COUNTY COMMISSION AUTHORITY. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MR BACK. MONEY MISS CAPTAIN GARY WAYNE BACK I LIVE AT 26. OH, ONE BEACH STREET. GENTLEMEN I NO LONGER RECOGNIZE THIS GOVERNING BODY AS A GOVERNMENT BODY. YOU ARE HEREBY RECOGNIZED AS A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE GOOD OLD BOYS. YOU WILL NO LONGER CARRY THE RESPECT OF THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS . I'M SEEKING ALL ON FORCE MINT OFFICERS TO INVESTIGATE THE CRIMINAL ACTS THAT I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO THAT COMES DIRECTLY AGAINST THE PEOPLE. THEY FALL WELL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF RICO AND I'M ALSO ASKING, AND I'M TELLING EVERYBODY THAT ANYBODY THAT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE CRIMINAL ACTS THAT I'VE WITNESSED AGAINST THE PEOPLE AS WELL AS MYSELF AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL NOT BE WORKING IZED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED PART OF A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE GOOD OLD BOYS. I HAVE TIME AND AGAIN FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS HAD TO ENDURE THAT THAT TORTURE WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE FORGET THAT WE ARE REPUBLIC FOUNDED ON THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS REPUBLIC HAVE HAD MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS STRIPPED AGAIN BY YOU PEOPLE AND THE 14TH JUDICIAL TO THE POINT OF CRIMINAL ACTS. I WILL NO LONGER RECOGNIZE THE 14TH JUDICIAL, CIVIL OR CRIMINAL.THIS ORGANIZATION IS A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. ONCE AGAIN, IT COMES DIRECTLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS. MR GRIFFIN, YOU ARE RUNNING FOR STATE REPRESENTATIVE. HOW CAN YOU RUN FOR REPRESENTATIVE WHENEVER YOU TURN A BLIND EYE TO EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING, AND I GAVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN I WALKED BACK UP HERE FROM PANAMA CITY BEACH TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. AND I TOLD YOU CLEARLY I WOULD NOT PAY CHILD WITH THE SAME BRUSH. AND WHAT DID Y'ALL DO? Y'ALL PUT ME IN A ROOM WITH A LAWYER. THAT TELLS ME THEY'RE GOING TO KILL ME IF I KEEP ON I'M SUPPOSED TO TURN AWAY FROM THE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND ALL THE STUFF THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO INSIDE THIS TOWN. YOU KNOW, I WAS TAUGHT BETTER, AND I HAD TO SAY STUFF IN FRONT OF LADIES AND HIS COMMISSION BUILDING THAT I NEVER WOULD SAY BECAUSE I HAVE HONORED FOR THE ELDERLY AND HONOR FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU PEOPLE HAD WITH BEHIND YOUR SHIELDS.
AND YOU'RE FREAKING SUITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO THE POINT OF RIDICULOUSNESS. I AM THE REPUBLIC. I REPRESENT THE REPUBLIC AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR ANYMORE TORTURE FROM THIS GOVERNMENT. NO LONGER GOVERNING BODY CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE GOOD OLD BOYS. AND IF YOU FIND ANYTHING FUNNY ABOUT WHAT I SAID BUILD, OSHER, YOU KNOW THERE'S NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT RACKETEERING AND STRONG ARMED ROBBERY OF THE PEOPLE, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND ALL THE OTHER CRIMES THAT I'VE LAID OUT IN THE LAST 13 YEARS. I'VE BEEN COMING IN HERE AND LET'S DON'T FORGET HOW THE MEDIA BACK THERE IS JUST RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. AS YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, I HAD THE ENERGY INVENTIONS AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT WOULD BETTER COMMUNITY RATHER NOT LET ME SHINE YOUR CHOSE TO STEAL EVERYTHING I'VE DONE. AND WHY DID YOU DO THAT? BECAUSE I'M HANDICAPPED BECAUSE IT CAN'T READ BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WRITE, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN YOU'RE GONNA GET TO TAKE MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AWAY FROM ME. JUST LIKE YOU'VE DONE EVERYBODY ELSE, SLOWLY BUT SURELY WITH 1000 CUTS. I AM THE REPUBLIC. AND I WILL LIVE UP TO MY OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. YOUR COMMENTS, MR BECK. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK BEFORE US OVER ANY ISSUE? WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AUTHORITY OVER? YES, SIR.
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GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, SIR. MY NAME IS HUGH LOT. I LIVE ON 22 900 LAKEVIEW DRIVE PANAMA CITY BEACH. I'M HERE ABOUT AN ISSUE. I'M AM A HOMEOWNER SINCE 2014. AND NEXT TO MY PROPERTY, UH, ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AGO IS A HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT STARTED TO BE BUILT. AND I'M HAVING ISSUES WITH THE WATER. THEY BUILT IT ON A PICTURE MOUNT, WHICH IT IS WHICH IT IS HIGHER THAN MY PROPERTY. AND NOW ALL OF THE WATER INSANE IS RUNNING OFF INTO MY PROPERTY. I WAS HERE ONCE BEFORE, AND I TALKED TO YOU, GENTLEMEN. AND I THINK THE YOUNG LADY HERE SHE TOOK MY NAME AT THE TIME, MR ALLEN GOODEN THAT WAS IN THE COMMISSION ARE I THINK REVIEW ENGINEER HE WAS TAKING CARE OF THAT ISSUE. BUT HE HAS BEEN REMOVED. SO NOW THEY HAVE A NEW GENTLEMAN THAT RUNNING THAT OFFICE AND I TALKED TO HIM LAST WEEK AND HE TOLD ME HE WOULD PUT MY NAME ON THE LIST. AND I ASKED HIM, PLEASE WHENEVER HE COMES OUT. IS THIS POSSIBLE THAT HE CAN CALL ME THAT? I WANT TO SHOW HIM? THE DAMAGE IT IS HAPPENING TO MY HOUSE. AH! MR ALLEN, THE GUY THAT WAS RUNNING THAT OFFICE BEFORE HE ASSURED ME AND ONE OF MY OTHER NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS HOUSE THAT'S BEEN BUILT. THAT THEY WILL PUT A DRAINAGE IN THERE. TO TAKE CARE OF THE WATER THERE IS RUNNING OFF THIS PICTURE MOUNTAIN. INTO OUR YARD. AND UH, I'M HERE TODAY TO. TO BE ASSURED THAT SOMEONE I HOPE THAT SOMEONE WILL COME OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT BEFORE. UH THE OWNER OF THE NEW HOUSE, WE GET THE PERMIT TO MOVE IN. AND THEN THERE'S THE SITUATION IS DONE. AND THEN I WILL HAVE THE INSURANCE PROBLEM PROBLEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY YOU'LL STICK AROUND AFTER THE MEETING AND TALK TO STAFF WILL GET YOUR ADDRESS AND ABSOLUTELY WE'LL MAKE SURE SOMEONE COMES OUT LIKE ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MORNING DEREK THOMAS 1100 WEST 10TH STREET. WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 2004, THERE WAS FIVE CORPORATIONS THAT OWNED 80% OF THE LAND AND PAID LESS THAN 20% OF THE PROPERTY TAX. UH SAINT JOE PAPER COMPANY, TIME WARNER AND DISNEY. AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER, UM, THEY UH, THE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ST JOE DOESN'T KNOW ON THEIR COMPANY THAT DOESN'T OWN 110,000 ACRES THAT THEY HAD. THEY SOLD IT TO A DEVELOPER. I HOPE THAT THAT'S BEING TAXED ON WHAT THEY DEVELOPERS PAID FOR IT. THE PAPER COMPANY IS CLOSED NOW AND AT THE TIME IT WAS BEING TAXED AT FARMLAND, A DOLLAR 50 AN ACRE AND, UH, NOW SINCE THERE'S NO PAPER COMPANY, PAPER MILL, THERE'S THAT'S GOING TO BE LUMBER COMPANY, I GUESS NOW AND LUMBER COSTS MORE THAN A DOLLAR A FOOT WHEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S A WATER TABLE WENT FROM 3 TO 4 FT. BELOW THE HEIGHT OF THE ROAD TO LESS THAN A FOOT BELOW THE HIGH THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S THE CHEAPEST, EASIEST WAY TO DEVELOP NOW IS TO JUST FILL IN THE LAND AND PUT A SLAB AND IN THE BOWL, WHERE THE DRAINS WERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID, BECAUSE IT WAS A GREEN SPACE AND THEN PLANNING DEPARTMENT.THERE'S TWO OTHER UNITS TO OTHER AREAS THAT WERE GREEN SPACES, AND NOW THEY'RE PUTTING IN UNITS THAT ARE HIGH DENSITY AND LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH UM. 32 TO 3 TIMES THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND THEY'RE PUTTING IT IN THE PLACE THAT HADN'T BEEN DEVELOPED NOW AND I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT THE SAME WAY THEY DID IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY JUST FILL IT IN AND PUT A SLAB IN. BUT IF I LIKE IN PENSACOLA, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF HUNDREDS OF HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT UP ON PIERS BECAUSE THAT WAS AT THE TIME AN EASY WAY TO DO IT IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE FLOODPLAINS BE EXPANDED, AND IN THIS AREA SO THAT, UM IF THE WORD WAS CHEAP ENOUGH WHERE YOU COULD BUILD IT UP. OFF OF THE GROUND INSTEAD OF FILLING IN THE LOW LYING AREAS, AND JUST PUT IN A SLAB IN THEN THERE'S LOTS OF AREAS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT THE SUPER HIGH DENSITY IN THE MIDDLE OF LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS AND AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF EVERYBODY ELSE THAT LIVES IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, UM I WOULD. I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GET SUBSIDIZED BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING TAXES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A CONSIDERATION. PLACED UPON THEM TO, YOU KNOW. MAKE IT CHEAPER, CHEAP ENOUGH. TO USE LUMBER. IN ORDER TO BUILD HOUSES IN SOME OTHER WAY THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CONTROL YOU HAVE WITH THAT. I KNOW THAT'S THE
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PROPERTY APPRAISERS. UM PREVIEW THAT ESTABLISHED THAT, BUT AS A PERSON WHO LIVES HERE AND SEES HOW THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED AND SEEN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WENT THROUGH, WHERE EVERYBODY THE FLOODING THAT USED TO BE ADDRESSED. WE'RE NOT IN THE CITY AND EVERYTHING WAS BUILT 73 YEARS AGO. WHENEVER IT WAS, IT WAS PLANNED OUT TO WORK EFFICIENTLY, JUST USING GRAVITY , AND NOW THAT'S ALL BEEN MESSED UP. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR COMING, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION? SAYING NO WAS ABOUT PARTICIPATION. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NO REPORT. MR CHAIRMAN TO MANAGE REPORT[O. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS]
NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT CHAIRMAN'S REPORT COMMISSIONER COMMENTS START WITH MR HAM I HAVE NOTHING. GRIFFIN'S JUST LINKED. THANKS STAFF FOR I THINK THIS IS MY SEVENTH VOTE ON MILLAGE, AND WE'VE NEVER RAISED IT. SO I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT SO THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL WHO HAVE WORKED WITH US. TO MAINTAIN, WHICH IS SOMETIMES HARD TO GET A BUDGET BALANCE. BUT WE TEND TO DO IT EVERY YEAR, AND I'M PROUD OF THAT. SO THANK YOU. MR. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT MADAM 14. SPRINGFIELD WATER CONNECTION. AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A FACILITY COMING TO REALLY MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN SPRINGFIELD, THEIR GOVERNMENTAL FACILITY AND JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM DOING A GOOD JOB UP THERE, RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WISH MORE. YES I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR PARKER. WALSINGHAM BACK ONCE AGAIN. NICE TO SEE YOU HERE. SAY YOU DRUG YOUR DAD ALONG THIS TIME INSTEAD OF YOUR MOM. UH ALSO JUST WANT AGAIN. SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO DEAN BOZEMAN'S F A PROGRAM. THEY HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. AH AND THEN RECEIVED A KUDOS FROM A CITIZEN FOR ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, MISS CATHY ASHMAN JUST FOR HER PROMPT RESPONSE AND ENGAGEMENT WITH ONE OF THE CITIZENS THAT REACHED OUT TO HER. THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE WAS ACKNOWLEDGED FOR THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD. I JUST HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. WE WANT TO SEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO SENATOR GAINERS, FAMILY, HIS BROTHER PASSED AWAY AND I JUST WANT TO SEND PRAYERS TO THEIR FAMILY AS THEY GET THROUGH THIS TRYING TIME. THAT CONCLUDES ALL THAT WE HAVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 18. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE WILL DO A FIVE MINUTE RECESS WHEN HE'S GOT THE RESTROOM BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE LENGTHY, SO WE'LL TAKE A ALRIGHT LIKE TO RECONVENE OUR MEETING. WE WILL START WITH ITEM 18. THIS IS THE APPEAL OF DEVELOPMENT ORDER 21-196 THE MACKENZIE OFFLOADING FACILITY, MR LABOR. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS BRIAN LEE BRICK, DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY WERE HERE. AS YOU SAID ON APPEAL OF DEVELOPMENT ORDER. WE ONLY GET ONE OF THESE ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO. SO THIS IS UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE, AND TODAY'S HEARING IS EVEN MORE UNUSUAL. WE'VE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT TO CHALLENGE THE. THE ABILITY OF THE APPELLANT TO BRING THIS CASE, AND SO I WENT FOR A RIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. ON THAT SO UM WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, GADFLIES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN CASES FOR POLITICAL OR PHILOSOPHICAL REASONS TO BRING CASES AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. EVERY TIME WE TAKE AN ACTION, SO WE HAVE THESE STANDING DOCTRINES WHERE WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN BRING A CHALLENGE TO A GOVERNMENT CASE. SO TODAY'S HEARING IS NOT ON THE MERITS OF WHETHER THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED. TODAY'S HEARING IS ONLY ON WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHALLENGING THIS ACTION HAVE THE RIGHT TO, UM, TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE THE PROPER CHALLENGERS.OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 209. DESCRIBES WHO HAS THAT STANDING TO BRING A CHALLENGE. AND THAT IS THE STANDARD THAT YOU SHOULD BE APPLYING TODAY IN DECIDING WHETHER THESE, UH APPELLANTS HAVE PROPER STANDING TO BRING THE CHALLENGE. THE CHAIRMAN HAS ASKED BOTH SIDES TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS TO 20 MINUTES. THE ATTORNEYS ON EITHER SIDE WILL CONTROL THAT TIME. WE WILL NOT BE TAKING COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THAT HAPPENED AT THE OBVIOUS 17 THEORY AUGUST 16TH THEORY SO TODAY WILL BE SOLELY LIMITED TO PRESENTATIONS FROM THE TWO ATTORNEYS LTD. 20 MINUTES EACH. UM, THE. THE APPLICANT WHO WAS ONE WHO BROUGHT THIS MOTION MAY RESERVE SOME OF HER TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THAT'LL BE UP TO HER AT THE END OF THE HEARING. UH, THE BOARD WILL HAVE THREE OPTIONS. YOU COULD DETERMINE THAT. THE
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APPELLANTS HAVE STANDING IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO THE AUGUST 16TH HEARING. YOU COULD DETERMINE THAT THE APPLICANTS DO NOT HAVE STANDING IN WHICH CASE YOUR WORK WILL BE COMPLETED, AND PRESUMABLY, THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE CIRCUIT COURT. OR THE THIRD OPTION IS, YOU COULD SIMPLY DIFFER. A JUDGMENT, UM, UNTIL AUGUST 16TH PERIOD, NOT MAKE A DECISION AT THIS MOMENT ON STANDING AND JUST DEFER THAT JUDGMENT UNTIL YOU HAVE HEARD THE REST OF THE EVIDENCE. UM, I DO ASK THAT. UH, IF THE BOARD'S DECISION INVOLVES HAVING AN AUGUST 16TH HEARING THAT YOU TABLE THE REST OF THE CONSIDERATION UNTIL THAT HEARING THAT WAY, THE NEWSPAPER NOTICE THAT WE PUBLISHED FOR THIS HEARING WOULD APPLY TO THE OTHER ONE. WE WON'T HAVE TO REPUBLISH. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED. QUESTIONS. OKAY THE MOMENT THANK YOU. MAYBE LATER FOR THE RECORD, BROWN. WE'VE BEEN HERE SIX YEARS. AND THIS IS OUR FIRST. SO YOUR TIME WHEN YOU NEED YOUR TIME. OKAY WITH THE AFRICANS LIKE TO START. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LISA MINSHEW, AND I'M PROUD TO REPRESENT HOLLINGSHEAD MATERIALS LLC, WHO'S THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS CASE? AH AND I HAVE 20 MINUTES AND I WOULD JUST TELL YOU AHEAD OF TIME THAT I DO HAVE MR LAMAR SYKES HERE WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK BRIEFLY AND I ALSO WILL SAVE FIVE MINUTES TO RESERVE FOR REBUTTAL AT THE END. IN IN THIS CASE, AS I AS WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TYPICALLY ASKED TO DO. BUT IT IS PART OF YOUR JOB. BECAUSE IN THIS SITUATION, HOLLINGSHEAD MATERIALS WENT THROUGH A LENGTHY PROCESS WITH YOUR STAFF.ADDRESSED MANY, MANY COMMENTS AND ISSUES FROM THE PUBLIC. ADDRESSED EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN. AND AS A RESULT OF DEVELOPMENT ORDER WAS ISSUED. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT ORDER WAS ISSUED SO THAT HOLLINGSHEAD COULD IMPROVE PREEXISTING SITE. A PRE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL SITE. IN INDUSTRIAL IS OWN SITE. SO THAT THEY COULD IMPROVE IT AND USE IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMPANY AND TO THE COMMUNITY. COMFORTABLE COMMUNITIES GROWING AND THEY NEED THIS PRODUCT. UH, IN ORDER TO GROW. SO AFTER THE THIS LONG PROCESS, MANY HEARINGS AND MEETINGS THIS DEVELOPMENT ORDERS ISSUED AND NOW AN APPEAL IS FILED. SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN COMPLAINING AND FILING PAPERS AND SENDING EMAILS TO YOUR STAFF. THEY AREN'T SATISFIED. SO THEY FILED AN APPEAL. WHICH HAS TO GO THROUGH YOU, AND SUBSEQUENTLY, IF THEY CHOOSE TO, THEY COULD FILE ANOTHER CASE IN COURT. BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO FILE APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK. TO MAKE THAT GO FORWARD. AND AS YOUR ATTORNEY JUST DESCRIBED. THEY HAVE TO ESTABLISH IN THAT PAPER THAT THEY HAVE WHAT WE CALL STANDING. WHY BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE APPROVAL. SO NOW THEY WANT ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. IN ORDER TO DO THAT TODAY . THEY MUST SHOW YOU IN THEIR APPEAL THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT. THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THAT THEY SOMEHOW HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THEM. THAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE THIS FIGHT. THAT'S STANDING NO. HOW WINGS HAD IN THE MEANTIME, BECAUSE OF YOUR ORDINANCE IS STAYED. ANOTHER LEGAL WORD, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS STOPPED. HOWLING SAID CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEIR PROPERTY. TO IMPROVE IT. WHILE THIS APPEAL IS PENDING. SO GOING AHEAD AND MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOUR STAFF HAS IT HAS AGREED OR APPROPRIATE AND LEGAL. UH IN ORDER TO HIRE STAFF, HIRE MORE EMPLOYEES AND START WORKING. THEY CAN'T DO THAT. ONCE THIS APPEAL IS EITHER DISMISSED OR OVERTURNED. THEN THAT STEAK IT'S LIFTED. AND THEN WE CAN START WORKING. SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT ALL THIS TIME WHILE THE APPEAL IS SITTING OUR PROPERTY IS SITTING THE ECONOMY IS SITTING. SO UNDER YOUR ORDINANCE, YOU'VE GOT SECTION TWO. OH, NINE THAT YOUR ATTORNEY JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT. BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME REQUIREMENTS.
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IT SAYS THAT THESE PEOPLE MUST SHOW YOU IN THEIR DOCUMENT THAT THEY HAVE SUFFERED AN ADVERSE IMPACT. SOME MORE LEGAL WORDS. BUT SUFFERING AN ADVERSE IMPACT IS DAMAGE THAT THEY HAVE SOMEHOW BEEN DAMAGED, SPECIALLY BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE APPROVED. AND THEY MUST HAVE SUFFERED THAT IN A DEGREE. THAT'S GREATER. THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. IN THIS APPEAL. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE APPEAL OR READ MY MOTION TO DISMISS. BUT IF YOU READ THAT APPEAL, WHICH IS YOU KNOW, HALF AN INCH THICK. THERE'S TWO PARAGRAPHS ON STANDING ONLY. ONE PARAGRAPH IS JUST QUOTING YOUR CODE. SO THE OTHER PARAGRAPH IS THE ONLY THING IN THIS APPEAL ABOUT STANDING THE REST OF IT IS JUST THEIR COMPLAINT. THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU APPROVED, BUT THAT ONE PARAGRAPH IS ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. DID THEY ESTABLISH STANDING IN THAT APPEAL? AND IF THEY DIDN'T YOU NEED TO DISMISS IT. LET HIM GO ON AND MAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO COURT. AND THEN THAT ONE PARAGRAPH. THE ONLY THING THEY SAID FACTUALLY WAS THAT THEY WERE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY. THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU HOW CLOSE AND AS WE SAID IN OUR MOTION TO DISMISS, WE BELIEVE THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT CLOSE. BECAUSE GENERALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER CASES THAT WE'VE SIGHTED IN OUR MOTION TO DISMISS THAT'S USUALLY BEING ADJACENT. IT'S BEING ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S BEING SOMEWHERE NEAR ITS BEING ON THE ROAD THAT IS IMPACTED. UM THESE PEOPLE AREN'T ANYWHERE CLOSE.THE CLOSEST IS A HALF A MILE. UH AND THEY DON'T GO DOWN MCKENZIE ROAD THAT THEY HAVE TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET TO MACKENZIE ROAD. UM THERE'S A BOAT RAMP AT MCKENZIE ROAD, BUT THERE'S ALSO A BOAT RAMP CLOSER TO WHERE THEY LIVE. SO THEY HAVE TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET DOWN THERE. SO IT'S OUR POSITION THAT THEY HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED STANDING. THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN YOU ANY KIND OF SPECIAL DAMAGE THAT THEY'VE SUFFERED. AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ORDER, AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVEN'T, UH, DISPLAYED IN THEIR APPEAL ANYTHING THAT'S GREATER DEGREE THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. UH YESTERDAY THEY FILED A 77 PAGE RESPONSE TO THE MOTION. WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT THEY KNOW THEIR APPEAL IS INSUFFICIENT. BUT MOST OF THAT 77 PAGE RESPONSE OR JUST EMAILS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WERE SENT TO YOUR STAFF COMPLAINING. ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER. THERE ARE SITUATIONS IN FLORIDA, WHERE THERE ARE WHAT WE CALL WATCHDOG GROUPS FORM. WHERE THERE'S NONPROFITS THAT ARE FORMED JUST FOR THE ONE PURPOSE OF MAKING SURE GOVERNMENT FOLLOWS THEIR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THERE WAS A CASE OUT OF WALTON COUNTY ON THAT RECENTLY. THOSE KIND OF GROUPS GET STANDING, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY DO. THAT IS THEIR ONLY PURPOSE. THESE PEOPLE AREN'T, A WATCHDOG GROUP. THEY'RE INDIVIDUALS. AND THEN THEY'RE PARAGRAPH ON STANDING. ALL THEY SAID WAS WE HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT BECAUSE WE ARE CLOSE. WELL, HOW CLOSE IS CLOSE ENOUGH. IT'S OUR POSITION. THEY ARE NOT CLOSE ENOUGH. AND THE CASE LAW. THAT WE'VE SIGHTED TO. YOU SHOWS THAT THEY'RE NOT THEY CAN'T THEY'RE NOT ADJACENT.
THEY'RE NOT ACROSS THE STREET. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACT. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. SO YOU HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER WHO REQUEST SETBACKS CHANGED. YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? SO SUDDENLY YOUR NEIGHBOR IS ABLE TO BUILD IN THE SIDE YARD. WELL THAT IMPACTS THAT NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY. KIND OF LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN WE HEARD FROM THIS MORNING THAT WAS HAS THE WATER COMING FROM NEXT DOOR? HE IS PERSONALLY SPECIALLY AFFECTED BY WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. THESE PEOPLE AREN'T NEARBY. THE HOLLINGSWORTH PROPERTY. THEY DON'T LIVE ON MACKENZIE ROAD. TWO OF THEM ARE ACROSS THE BAYOU. AND THREE OF THEM LIVE IN THE CONDO. WE ATTACHED TO OUR MOTION TO DISMISS A MAP SO THAT YOU COULD SEE IT. GOING TO ASK MR SYKES JUST TO HOLD UP A LARGER ONE. IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT. SO HERE'S THE FOLLOWING, SAID PROPERTY AND ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY ALONG MCKENZIE THAT'S ALSO BEING USED FOR INDUSTRIAL HERE'S WHERE THE THREE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE COND1 MILES OR 2693. FT. THE CASES WE'VE STARTED. YOU ARE USUALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN 300 FT.
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NOT 2600. TWO OF THEM ARE ACROSS THE VALUE. THOSE ARE EVEN FURTHER. 0.62 MILES 3274 FT. AND YOU SEE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE TO GET TO MACKENZIE. AND THEIR CONDO AS YOU KNOW. MARINA DOWN HERE. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THESE PEOPLE TO BE DOWN. THAT THEY CAN'T GO. BUT THEY'RE NOT SPECIAL IMPACTED. BUY ANYTHING HAPPENING DOWN AT MACKENZIE. SON TO DISMISS AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY PUT IN THEIR APPEAL. WAS THAT THEY WERE CLOSE. THEY MIGHT COME UP HERE TODAY AND TRY TO TELL YOU A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT DID THEY PUT IN THEIR APPEAL? WAS THEIR APPEAL SUFFICIENT. AND YOU CAN RULE TODAY. IT WASN'T DISMISS IT. LET THEM MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN COURT. THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND HAVE THE LENGTHY HEARING. AND HOLLING SAID, CAN GO AHEAD AND START OPERATING. WHICH IS WHAT YOU APPROVED. UH THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE A LOT OF TALK ABOUT CHAPTERS. 1 63. AND YOU PROBABLY ALL REMEMBER THIS AS I DO. BACK WHEN WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS . BC A AND THEY RULED OUR LIVES. EVERYTHING WE HAD TO DO LOCALLY. WELL THAT ISN'T EVEN A PART OF THE CABINET ANYMORE. BUT THAT'S WHERE THE 1 63 LANGUAGE COMES, WHICH IS ALL THROUGH THE RESPONSE. SO NOW WE'RE BEYOND THAT. WELL YOU GOTTA DO IS DECIDE UNDER YOUR CODE. HAVE THESE PEOPLE SUFFICIENTLY SAID IN THAT ONE PARAGRAPH. THAT THEY HAVE STANDING AND WE SUGGEST THEY HAVE NOT. PLEASE DON'T DEFER THE DECISION. BECAUSE THAT MEANS. WE STILL HAVE TO COME WITH BANK OF EXPERTS. WE HAVE TO BRING ALL YOUR STAFF IN AND MAKE THE BIG PRESENTATION IN A MONTH.
UM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE DECISION TODAY, SO WE KNOW AND ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO GO AHEAD AND USE THEIR PROPERTY. I'M GONNA LET MR SYKES SPEAK BRIEFLY, AND THEN I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY LAST FIVE MINUTES FULL. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN MORRIS, LIKE, EXCUSE ME. GOOD.
THIS CAN YOU HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. WE WANT TO SWEAR AGAIN. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, OKAY? YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH? THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. LAMAR SACKS EMPLOYEE OF HAULING, SAID CEMENT. AH! GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY. MOST OF Y'ALL DON'T DON'T KNOW ALL OF THIS, BUT OUR FAMILY. OWN THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 50 YEARS. AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO. SAME WAY. WE HAD A CEMENT TERMINAL LATER WE UNLOADED BARGE CEMENT THERE. THE SAME WAY. SAME PLACE. OVER 40 YEARS AGO. AND ALL WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO DO THE SAME THING THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR 60 YEARS. BRIDGE CONTRACTORS. GENERAL CONTRACTORS ALL HAVE BEEN USED. AND WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. WE'RE MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. THE WATER TRANSPORTATION IS THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MOVE MATERIAL. AND TRANSPORTATION IS Y'ALL ALL KNOW IS THE BIGGEST ITEM THERE. HE IS IN A PRODUCT TODAY. WE CAN SELL CEMENT CELL CONCRETE FOR LESS. IF WE CAN BARGE ARE CEMENT IN IF NOT, IT'S GOTTA BE TRUCKED IN SO WE'RE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL ASKED US TO DO. WE MET ALL YOUR REQUIREMENTS. THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS BEEN WRITTEN PERMIT HAS BEEN WRITTEN. AND WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU ALL TO DO WHAT? I WAS TOLD THAT WE WOULD GET A PERMIT TO DO THIS BY COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. WHAT SO THEY STILL HAVE SEVEN MINUTES LEFT ON THEIR TIME SO EUROPE.
GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MEREDITH BUSH. I'M GOING TO TURN INTO THE CART PARTING TONIGHT AND HAVE THE PLEASURE TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPELLANTS AND I'M DROPPING PAPERS. JAMES SLOW. LENA JAMES MITCHELL, DAVID GANT, MERRILY, MARTIN, ROGER, ROW AND LANCE AND
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KATIE HOFLAND. CONTRARY TO WHAT MISS MINSHEW JUST TOLD YOU I'M NOT GOING TO GET UP HERE AND TALK A LOT ABOUT CHAPTER 1 63. WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS DIRECT YOU TO THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH CLEARLY LAYS OUT HOW TO ESTABLISH STANDING ANY PERSON. WHICH WILL SUFFER AN ADVERSE EFFECT. TO AN INTEREST THAT'S PROTECTED OR FURTHERED BY THE CODE, INCLUDING HEALTH AND SAFETY. INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES. WHEN THAT INTEREST MAY BE SHARED IN COMMON WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. BUT IT SHALL JUST EXCEED IN DEGREE GENERAL INTEREST IN COMMUNITY GOOD SHARED BY ALL PERSONS. IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL DAMAGE. IN THE SAME WAY THAT IF YOUR NEIGHBOR ENCOURAGES UPON YOUR SETBACK OR SOMEHOW DIGS ONTO YOUR OWN PROPERTY. IT SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST THAT THIS COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROTECTS ANY PERSON CAN COME TO THIS BOARD AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS MY INTEREST THAT'S PROTECTED BY YOUR OWN LAWS AND REGULATIONS. AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU IT'S BEEN VIOLATED IN SOME WAY. AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE ASKED TO DO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALLEGED IN OUR APPEAL. UM YOU'RE ALSO NOT LIMITED TO THE ONE PARAGRAPH IN THE APPEAL. YOU'RE ENTITLED ON A MOTION TO DISMISS TO CONSIDER ALL ARGUMENTS PLAYED AND ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THAT APPEAL, AND YOU'LL FIND THROUGHOUT THAT APPEAL. ALLEGATIONS OF. AN IMPACT TO THE UTILIZATION OF MACKENZIE ROAD. ALLEGATIONS TO AN IMPACT OF THE UTILIZATION OF THE MACKENZIE BOAT RAMP. PROBLEMS WITH DUST, NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION IN THE AREA. THE CITIZENS, FISH AND BOAT IN THE BAYOU THERE AND UTILIZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND YOUR CODE AND YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR TEXTS. THESE INTERESTS. WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU DENY THE MOTION TO DISMISS. MISS MIN. SHE WAS CORRECT. THIS IS A PREREQUISITE TO A LAWSUIT. BUT THE LAWSUIT WOULD BE AGAINST THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER, AND YOUR CODE ALLOWS THAT BEFORE YOUR CITIZENS WHO WANT TO BE HEARD HAVE TO GO TO CIRCUIT COURT AND HAVE A JUDGE TELL YOU TO APPLY YOUR OWN CODE AND ABIDE BY THE POLICIES IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME AND ASK YOU DIRECTLY IN A PUBLIC HEARING . THERE HAVE NOT BEEN NUMEROUS MEETINGS WHERE THE CITIZENS WERE ALLOWED TO SPEAK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THEY HAVE EMAILS AND REACHED OUT AND WERE REPEATEDLY TOLD YOU HAVE A CHANCE. IT'S CALLED A SECTION TWO. OH, NINE, A PILL. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE BEFORE YOU ON A SECTION TWO OR NOT APPEAL BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY. HEY WE THINK SOMETHING WRONG HAS HAPPENED HERE AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. HERE IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THERE'LL BE NO NEW INDUSTRIAL USES OUTSIDE OF EXISTING INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCE PARKS. THIS IS A NEW INDUSTRIAL USE THAT IS NOT WITHIN AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCE PARK. YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO SAYS THAT INDUSTRIAL USES ARE NOT PERMITTED USE INSIDE THE SOUTHPORT NEIGHBORHOOD. PLANNING AREA. THIS IS A NEW INDUSTRIAL USE INSIDE THE SOUTHPORT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.THESE APPELLANTS ARE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE SOUTHPORT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. AND BY VIRTUE OF THEIR UTILIZATION OF MACKENZIE ROAD, THEIR UTILIZATION OF THE PUBLIC VOTE RAMP. THEIR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND THEIR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IN THE SOUTHPORT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THEY HAVE AN INTEREST THAT IS GREATER THAN JUST THE GENERAL INTEREST IN COMMUNITY GOOD AND WELFARE, AND THAT'S ALL YOUR CODE REQUIRES. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU FIND THAT THEY HAVE STANDING AND I'M NOT GONNA REHASH THE ARGUMENTS OUT LATE IN THE IN THE PLEADINGS THAT WE SUBMITTED BUT I WOULD DO IS USE THE 15 MINUTES. I HAVE LEFT TO HAVE EACH OF THEM COME STATE THEIR NAME. THEIR ADDRESS AND TELL YOU HOW THEY WILL BE AFFECTED AND BE HEARD ON THE ISSUE OF THE IMPACT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE, AND HAS HAD ONE FINAL THING. UM WHILE IT MAY HAVE BEEN PRESENT ON THE SITE FOR 60 YEARS OR 40 YEARS, THE DEVELOPMENT CAME IN ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO TO GET A DEVELOPMENT ORDER. NEVER CAME BACK FOR A CERTIFICATE OF ACCEPTANCE AND HAS BEEN OPERATING IN MY OPINION UNLAWFULLY WITHOUT THE PROPER COUNTY APPROVALS. SO ANY GENEROSITY YOU MAY FEEL OR COMPASSION YOU MAY FEEL FOR THE BUSINESS AND FOR THE NEED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. IS NOT OUTWEIGHED BY THE FACT THAT YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT THAT YOU DEVELOP THIS COUNTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR REGULATIONS , AND SO I COULD PAUSE MY TIME AND THEN HAVE EACH INDIVIDUAL GIVEN THREE MINUTES. 2.5 MINUTES TO CALM AND ADDRESS THE BOARD. THANK YOU. COULD WE ASK THEM TO STAND AND SWORN IN AS YOU WISH TO SPEAK? WOULD ANYBODY WHO'S GONNA SPEAK STANDING THIS
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MORNING. ANY OTHER NAMES THAT COLOR. THESE WERE AFFIRMED THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH. THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, GENTLEMEN. JIM SLOAN, ENOUGH. 1600 MARINA BAY DRIVE UNIT, 404. LYNN HAVEN, FLORIDA. THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY HAVE NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING ALL THESE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND HEARINGS THAT WENT ON FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER. THIS IS A STAFF ISSUE DEVELOPMENT ORDER WITHOUT THE ABILITY FOR ANY OF US TO HAVE INPUT. THIS IS EXACTLY THE VENUE FOR US TO COME AND SHARE WHEN WE THINK CODE HASN'T BEEN APPLIED CORRECTLY, BUT WASN'T THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION WHEN THEY PASSED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES. I LIVE CLOSE. I LIVE NO FARTHER, ACTUALLY, THE PORTER PARK BOAT RAMP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE IS FURTHER AWAY. THEN THE MACKENZIE BELTRAN. CANCER BOAT RAMP IS ONE BLOCK AWAY. SORRY SOUTHPORT BLOCKS ARE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN NEW YORK CITY BLOCKS. BUT IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY.AND NOW THAT YOU NICELY PAVED SMITH ROAD LINKING THINGS TOGETHER, MY WIFE AND I TAKE THE GOLF CART AND THE DOGS AND WE GO DOWN TO THE BOAT LAUNCH AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT, IN THAT AREA, SO WERE AFFECTED BY THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD. I THINK THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 80. SEMI TRUCKS A DAY. OF CEMENT BEING GENERATED ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. UD I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A TIME EVERY TIME THE BARGES COME IN, THEY BLOCK OFF. ACCESS I MEAN, THEY JUST BLOCK IT OFF. AND THAT'S A PUBLIC VOTE, RIGHT? SOME AFFECTED BY THE PUBLIC BOAT RAMP. I'VE GOT A JET SKI. THE EASIEST PLACE FOR ME TO LAUNCH IT IN LESS PEOPLE THAN OVER AND BORDER PARK. SO I MEAN, I FISH IN THAT AREA, OF COURSE, BUT I MEAN, AND I LIVE ON THE WATER. WE'RE TALKING 17 STORY SILENCE.
I MEAN, MY CONDOS, SEVEN LIVING LEVELS. OKAY WE'RE TALKING 17 STORY SILOS ON A THREE ACRE DEVELOPMENT SITE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN HISTORIC USE OF THE AGGREGATE. BRITAIN NUISANCE RIGHT NOW. NOISE LIGHT AND EVERYTHING. AND YES, THEY GOT TO DEVELOPMENT ORDER THREE YEARS AGO AND NEVER DID ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. BUT BECAUSE THEY NEVER ASKED FOR THE INSPECTION. IT'S NOT INCUMBENT ON STAFF TO GO AFTER AND SAY. WHY ARE YOU OPERATING WITHOUT YOUR OWN? APPROVAL. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAID SO WE DON'T ONLY HAVE A BE SCARED OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. WE'VE GOT IT. THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT'S PRODUCING THIS THING RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, I BET YOU HAVE 50% OF THE TIME YOU GO DOWN THERE THE BOAT CAN USE BOTH AROUND. AND I DO LIVE THERE AND WE ENJOY TAKING THE GOLF CART AND RUNNING ONE BLOCK AWAY. UM JUST IT'S JUST INAPPROPRIATE LEVEL OF INTENSITY. ON A SMALL AGED INDUSTRIAL SITE. I'M SURE THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE. WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ALL AROUND IT. IT'S UM RIDICULOUS AND. WHAT MEREDITH MENTIONED ABOUT THE COMPASSION BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BUILD ALL THIS STUFF WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY A BAD INDUSTRIAL CITIZEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW. AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANKS. MY NAME IS ROSS HATCHELL. I LIVE AT $1132 PENNY DRIVE IN SOUTHPORT.
FROM THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH POLE COMMUNITY CLUB. WHICH DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. SOME OF YOU MADEE OYSTERS WITH HIM OR SOME BULLETS. JUST THE PARTIES. IT IS. YOU SAID. WELL, I THINK.
WHAT'S YOUR ARGUMENT IS NOT ONE OF THE NAMES APPELLANTS AND I WAS DIFFERING MY TIME OR GIVING YOUR TIME TO THE NAMED APPELLANTS BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE YOU WOULD WELCOME HIS INPUT. GOOD POINT. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE. OR JUST A LAWYER. I THINK THE INTENT WAS THIS WAS THE ONES THAT ARE NAMED, DIDN'T HE? SO BECAUSE THE QUESTION TODAY IS LIMITED SOLELY TO STANDING AND WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE APPEAL. I WAS GIVING MY TIME TO THOSE NAMED IN THE APPEAL. SO THAT THEY CAN ESTABLISH THAT THEY HAVE
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STANDING. IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE ARE MANY CITIZENS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AND WISH TO BE HEARD. I THINK THOSE OTHER INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE DURING THE TIME OF PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPELLANT'S. HI MY NAME IS MARILYN MARTIN ROWE AND I LIVED 12 OR 4/13 STREET. MY PROBLEM IS THE AIR QUALITY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FROM THREE SILOS WHERE YOU DUMPED CONCRETE DUST. THAT IS HUGE. MY HUSBAND FISHES. UM, I DO PADDLEBOARDING. WE DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON THE DAY. BEING THAT I'M IN AN INDUSTRY. I WORK IN EASTERN SHIPBUILDING AND FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE CAREFUL WITH THEIR QUALITY AND EVERYTHING.O WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT I'VE KNOWN LAMAR FOREVER. BUT IN THIS CASE THAT PARTICULAR AREA SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL. IT'S SMALL. IT'S TINY. IF YOU WANT TO RUN A LITTLE TINY AREA, WE RIDE BIKES DOWN THERE. WE WILL GO DRIVE BIKES OVER THE BRIDGE. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT BEING PLANNED PROPERLY. SO SORRY. THANK YOU. THE REPELLENTS. THAT IS GENTLEMEN. I HAD MY THREE MINUTES OF FAME HERE AT THIS POST SAME PODIUM FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO. A PURPOSE OF THIS LITTLE CHAT IS JUST TO REITERATE JIM MITCHELL, JIM MITCHELL MARINA BAY CONDOMINIUMS AT THE NORTH END OF THE LINE HAVEN BAILEY BRIDGE AND REPRESENT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHEN WE GOT WIND OF THIS PROJECT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. WE KICKED IT AROUND. WE COULD THINK OF A LOT OF REASONS TO BE OPPOSED TO IT. NO REASONS TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT.IT REMAINS THAT WAY. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I HAVE PROVIDED PACKAGES TO OKAY? COMMISSIONER MORE WITH COPIES TO EACH OF YOU. PICKING APART WHAT WE FELT WERE CONDITIONS IN THE CAPRI HAS A PLAN. THAT WEREN'T REALLY BEING ADDRESSED ISSUES TO US. AND WE POINTED THEM OUT. BY PARAGRAPH. BY SENTENCE. I'VE GOT ONE LONG. I'M ON OXYGEN EVERY NIGHT. I THOUGHT I WAS IN A NICE NICE PLACE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT AIR QUALITY IS GOING TO BE LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR QUALITY WILL BE LIKE. WILL IT BE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED? FAT CHANCE, HUH? WILL IT BE A LITTLE BIT DIMINISHED? I DON'T KNOW. I'M CERTAINLY NO EXPERT, AND I CAN'T TALK LEGALESE. NONE OF MY THREE DEGREES IS IN A LOT. I JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON SENSE. AND THIS IS NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME. I IT JUST DOESN'T WASH. AND WE REMAIN ON RECORD VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED 63 HOMEOWNERS IN THE CONDOMINIUM AND A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS IN SOUTHPORT THAT I'VE BEEN TO SOUTHPORT MEETINGS WITH. I DON'T LIKE IT. SORRY. I DON'T LIKE IT. THANK YOU, SIR.
EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ABILITY SIDE. MERCEDES FRANKLIN, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF DAVID GANT, AND HE LIVES ACROSS FROM UH, THAT PROPOSED SILO AREA. AND ON. WHAT IS IT, FANNING BY YOU AND ESTUARY AND HE HAS BEEN VOTING THERE AND FISHING AND SAILING SINCE 1976. BUT WE DID HAVE A PARTICULAR INCIDENT. UM. WHERE HE WE PUT IN A LIVING SHORELINES , WHICH WAS SUPPORTED BY BAY COUNTY. I THINK THE NATURE CONSERVATION. AND FISH AND WILDLIFE AND SO A FEW OF US OVER IN THIS AREA OF THE BAY OF THE BIO. IN HAVING STALLED LIVING SHORELINES, WHICH IS A LONG TERM EVENT BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE FOR EVERYTHING TO GROW INTO CREATE A NATURAL SHORELINES. SO ONE OF THE THIS PAST SPRING. THE LIVING SHORELINES WAS WORKING.
THE PEOPLE FROM THE LIVING SHORELINE WAS WORKING ON OUR LIVING SHORELINE. AND. DAVID WALKED OUT WITH HIS COFFEE. ON THE SET IT DOWN ON THE HMM. TABLE AND CHAIR THERE. AND WE WENT ABOUT DOING SOME STUFF AND WE AND THEN WENT BACK AND SAT DOWN. AND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE NOTICED YOUR COFFEE CUP IS FULL OF DUST. AND WE'RE LOOKING AROUND. AND. WE ALL LOOKED AT
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THE SILOS BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSY WORKING FILLING. THE DUMP TRUCKS. WHERE THEY SCOOP UP WITH THE X WITH THE S EXCAVATORS ANDS AND ALL THE DUST GOES AROUND. SO BESIDES IN INTERFERING WITH THE SALINE AND SPORTS ON THE ON THEE TO LEAVE THE SHORE THERE IS RIGHT NOW AN ISSUE WITH THE DUST. AND FULLER, FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE SOUGHT AND SO DID THE BAYWATCH SAW RIGHT BEFORE I SO I THINK THAT WE ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THIS IN THE LIMITED USE THAT THEY ARE USING IT. I MEAN, THEY ARE COMING IN WITH MAYBE UP TO FOUR BARGES ON A SATURDAY OR A WEEKDAY. AND THAT IS BEING LOADED AND UNLOADED. WITH NOTHING. NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM. AH! EVERYTHING'S GOING INTO THE WATER. THERE'S NO PARTICULAR. SEAWALL THERE HOLDING ANYTHING BACK AND IT'S BEING USED ON A DAILY BASIS. AND WE ARE BEING AFFECTED BY IT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE 1600 FT AWAY.AND WE'RE BEING AFFECTED BY IT. AND IT'S BEEN WITNESSED. BUT THEY WATCH AND FOR INEFFICIENT.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU FOR ALLOWING THEM TO SPEAK. UM BRIEFLY TURNED. ADDRESS MISS MENCHU'S COMMENT ABOUT WATCHDOG GROUPS, THE CITIZENS THAT YOU HEARD FROM TODAY THEY'RE NOT MEMBERS OF SHE STATED THE SIERRA CLUB OR SOME OTHER GROUP THAT COMES TOGETHER SPECIFICALLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PURPOSES. HOWEVER THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THEY BE A FORMAL ASSOCIATION OR INCORPORATION IN BE SOLELY INTERESTED IN ENVIRONMENTAL PURPOSES IN ORDER TO HAVE STANDING, THE CITIZENS ARE ACTING AND HAVE BEHAVED AS THOUGH THEY WERE A MEMBER OF A WATCHDOG DOG GROUP OR ANOTHER ASSOCIATION OF THAT SWORD. AND BY VIRTUE OF THEIR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES BY VIRTUE OF THEIR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP BY VIRTUE OF THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE SITE AGAIN WITHIN THIS SOUTHPORT SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE. SPECIAL TREATMENT AREA THAT YOU DESIGNATED TO BE TO HAVE SPECIFIC CONSIDERATIONS. THEY HAVE STANDING UNDER YOUR OWN CODE. UM. AND AGAIN THE TEST IS WHETHER OR NOT THOSE INTERESTS EXCEED IN DEGREE GENERAL INTEREST IN COMMUNITY. GOOD WE ALL OUR CITIZENS HAVE AN INTEREST IN COMMON WELFARE AND COMMON GOOD AND JUST BEING A CITIZEN OF A COUNTY WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH. THEY COULDN'T COME IN AND SAY, WELL, I LIVE HERE TOO. SO THEREFORE WHAT THIS DEVELOPERS DOING MATTERS TO ME. WHEN IT MATTERS AND WHAT GIVES THEM STANDING IS WHEN THEY SAY.
I LIVE IN BAY COUNTY. I HAVE THESE PROTECTED INTERESTS BY YOUR OWN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BY YOUR OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS DOING IS ADVERSELY IMPACTING MY PROTECTED INTEREST, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT AND GREATER DEGREE THAN JUST BEING COMMON WELFARE AND COMMON GOOD. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTION. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OBJECTIONS? WE'VE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE HERE. THEY MAY NOT BE PART OF THIS LAWSUIT, BUT I PERSONALLY HAVE THE OBJECTION ALLOW THEM TO COME AND SPEAK. THEY MAY NOT CHOOSE TO BE PART OF THE LAWSUIT. BUT IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I'D LOVE TO ALLOW THOSE COUPLE OF RESPECT FOR SURE. WHAT CAN I COME TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK? YES YES, SIR. BOTH OF BOTH OF YOU NEED A SPEAKER. I'M READY, COLLIER. 37 6 OH, ONE GLEN COVE LANE AND SOUTHPORT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SITUATION HERE OF THE WAY IT'S BEEN FOR 40 YEARS NEGATIVE. YOU CAN. CLOUD WITH A MULE AND DO AN ACRE. YOU CAN PLOW WITH 50 HORSE TRACTOR AND DO SEVERAL ACRES. THAT'S WHAT YOUR COMPARISON IS WHAT THEY WERE DOING 10 YEARS AGO WITH CONCRETE WOW. THEY CAN DO IT THE SAME WAY NOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT THE SAME WAY THEY'RE BRINGING IN TRUCKS AND BARGES. THEY FILLED UP THE BOAT RAMPS WITH BARGE THEY'RE LOADING LATE AT NIGHT. I WATCHED HIM WITH A PAIR OF BINOCULARS. MORE OF LIVE. I CAN SEE THE BOAT. 70 PAGES OF WE HAD A TOUR. ABOUT 20 MINUTES OF LAWYER AGE. WHEN YOU THINK. THE AIR QUALITY NEEDS TO BE RECORDED FROM A YEAR AGO. THE WATER QUALITY SHOULD BE RECORDED FROM A YEAR AGO. DO YOU HAVE THESE RECORDS? OH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO COMPARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW WITH WHAT THEY WERE
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BEFORE? MOTHER. NATURE IS GUARDIAN. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? AND ROSS HEGEL. 113 TO DONALD ANY DRIVE IN SOUTHPORT.IN 1945, MY GRANDFATHER'S FAILED BATTER, ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED ALABAMA AND MOVED TO SOUTH. I BELIEVE THERE MY WHOLE LIFE. I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN. ENJOY SOUTHFORK. THEY DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT THEY ENJOY IT BECAUSE I'M THERE. I REALIZED THAT WE'RE A NATION OF LAWS AND THESE LADIES HAVE SPOKEN BLOG. BE AWARE LAWS. HELP THE GREATER GOOD FOR THE GREATER NUMBER. IF WE BRING A POLLUTING EFFECT INTO THIS AREA, IT'S GONNA CHANGE. THEY PUT SILICON IN THE AIR. I HAVE BEEN TOLD IT'S A FIVE MILE RADIUS. THAT GOES TO TOM P. HANEY UM, HOW WE 77 IT AFFECTS MORE THAN JUST THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH KOREA. IS THIS WORTH? ONE CHILD BEING EXPOSED TO THE SILICA DUST PARTICLES IN THE CANCER THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM THAT. IS IT WORTH IT? THINK OF THE HUMANITY HERE, PEOPLE. THINK OF THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE ALL SUBJECT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. THAT IS OUR BIGGEST ATTRACTION IN FLORIDA IS THE ENVIRONMENT. IF THERE'S A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, WE DON'T PROTECT THAT ENVIRONMENT. SOMEWHERE. WE'RE SUFFERING. IT'S NOT RIGHT. TOURISTS COME HERE BECAUSE WE'RE A PRISTINE AND FIRE. WE GIVE THAT UP FOR SUBMIW MANATEE IN THAT BAY. I'VE NEVER DONE THAT WAY FOR MOST OF MY LIFE. WITHIN TWO BLOCKS OF IT NOW, AND I HEAR THOSE TRUCKS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. MOST OF US SLEEP AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. WE'RE NOT EXPOSED TO AN INDUSTRIAL EFFORT BECAUSE ON OVER THERE ALL BE COOLED OFF BREAK. I WAS ON THE BAILEY BRIDGE THREE MONTHS AGO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WELL. ONE OR TWO MORE. MY NAME IS DELORES MASON. A LIVE ON HOPKINS LANE. I LIVE SOMEWHERE ON THE PENDING BY YOU. I'VE ONLY BEEN OUT THERE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS LOCATION IS. BUT IF IT'S OFFENDING BY YOU EXAM OFFENDING BY YOU. IT MUST AFFECT ME, RIGHT? I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE NOISE. THE AIR QUALITY WORRY ABOUT ALL THAT STUFF AND ANYTHING ON THE PENDING BY YOU AT WHAT WHICH I LIVE ON. SO PLEASE CONSIDER EVERYONE'S CONCERNS. WE LIKE TO HAVE A NICE, QUIET LIFE. THAT'S WHY WE MOVED OUT IN THE COUNTRY AND UNINCORPORATED AREA. WE'RE NOT REQUESTING STREETLIGHTS, SPIKE BRAINS, JOE THAT STUFF WE WANT OUR PEACE AND QUIET ON THE PENNY BAYOU. AND, UH, I JUST THINK THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH IF IT'S BEEN THERE ALREADY TO ME, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION. IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT DOES NOT IMPACT. WATERWAYS WILDLIFE. RETIREES ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. WE GOT TIME FOR TWO MORE.
MY NAME IS ELEANOR THOMPSON. I LIVED IN 2018 COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE. I MY HOME IS ON NORTH BAY. I AM WORRIED THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. ON THE WATERWAY, WHICH, BY THE WAY I MOVED HERE 12 YEARS AGO. AND THE MARINE LIFE ON OUR WAY. IS IT'S NO LONGER WHAT IT WAS OKAY. AND I'M SURE IT WAS BECAUSE OF HURRICANE MICHAEL. BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS COMPANY PUTTING MORE. CHEMICALS OR WHATEVER, FROM CEMENT ON OUR BAY. YOU GUYS NEED TO PROTECT OUR BAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOT TIME FOR ONE MORE. IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, YES, MA'AM.
40 APART. AGAIN AND SOME OF THE OTHER TALENTS. UM WE MOVED THERE JUST AFTER THE HURRICANE MICHAEL. UM WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT THREE YEARS AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD MANATEES AND WE
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HAVE EAGLES AND WIN KIND OF WONDERFUL THINGS BEFORE THERE. I GREW UP JUST DOWN THE BAY. UM BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO PROBABLY MAY I WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT ABOUT MAY OF LAST YEAR. WE STARTED. OUR HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 19. OH, FIVE, MR ANDERSON. SO IT'S VERY OLD, AND WHEN THE AGGREGATE COMPANY CAME IN UM, WE STARTED NOTICING SHAKING. OUR WHOLE HOUSE SHAKES AND WE ARE ACROSS THE BAY. UM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE BAY. WE'VE GOT STADIUM TYPE LIGHTS. WE'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF IT, AND THE COMPANY HAS HELPED WITH SOME OF IT, BUT IT'S STILL VERY, UM IT'S A BIG NEWS SO HUGE DISTANCE. IT STARTS BEFORE WE START START. FOUR IN THE MORNING. SOMETIMES IT HAS BEEN VERY NICE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT HASN'T BEEN GOING, BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE EAGER TO GET BACK ON TRACK, SO I GUESS NOT ONLY QUESTION CONCERN. UM, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN GET THIS IN? CAN WE DO IT BY TRAIN TRUCK. DO WE HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT TO EXPOSE OUR BAYES? DO WE HAVE THAT EXPOSED A COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED. UM CAN WE GO TO A PLACE THAT'S NOT SO ESTABLISHED? ARE THERE OTHER WAYS AND HAVE WE EXPLORED THAT OR ARE WE JUST GOING THE EASY WAY THE CHEAPEST WAY. UM NOT NOT THE BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF SOUTHFORK. UM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. I REALIZED IT WAS PUBLIC, BUT SOUTHWARDS, VERY SMALL OLD COMMUNITY. PEOPLE ARE NOT. ALL ON THE INTERNET. THEY'RE NOT EXPOSED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING EVERY DAY, SO BY THE TIME THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT FIGURED OUT ABOUT IT. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. UM WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE RIGHT STEPS, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT STEPS. SO IF YOU ALL WILL BE OPEN MINDED TO THE FACT THAT I REALIZE IT'S WITHIN LEGAL REALMS. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THAT REALM THAT HAVE A VOICE AND OPINION. SO UM, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S START MY TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE APPLICANT YOU HAD SEVEN MINUTES FOR YOUR REBUTTALS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO I WAS JUST SITTING THERE THINKING. PROBABLY DON'T EVEN LIKE BEING IN THIS KIND OF SETTING AND LIKE YOU'RE SITTING AS A JUDGE. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOUR CODE PROVIDES. IT PUTS YOU IN THAT POSITION WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE LEGAL DECISIONS. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AND. WHEN I LISTENED TO THE APPELLANTS WHO CAME UP HERE? I WAS TRYING TO PULL OUT OF THEIR TESTIMONY, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A SPECIAL DAMAGE, SOMETHING THAT GIVES THEM STANDING AND I DIDN'T HEAR IT. UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAD A FEW PEOPLE THAT AREN'T APPELLANTS WHO TALKED ABOUT MANATEES AND THINGS, BUT THE APPELLANTS ARE WHO HAVE TO ESTABLISH STANDING FOR YOU TODAY. AND IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO DISMISS THIS. UM AND AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THE DOCUMENT THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT IS THEIR APPEAL. AND THEN THEIR APPEAL. THERE'S ONE PARAGRAPH ON STANDING, AND IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE CLOSE. AFTER THAT. THE APPEAL GOES INTO NUMEROUS THINGS THAT THEY THINK YOU DID WRONG. THAT YOUR STAFF DID WRONG THAT THEY DID THAT YOUR STAFF DIDN'T CONSIDER AND NONE OF THOSE THINGS ADDRESS THESE APPELLANTS. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GENERAL. COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS THIS CONFERENCE PLANTS IS THIS THOSE THEY DON'T ADDRESS THESE PEOPLE. AND THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST. THEY HAVE TO SHOW YOU THAT THEY HAVE A HIGHER DEGREE. OF IMPACT THAT IS ADVERSE TO THEM. UM MR SELENA, WHO CAME UP HERE FIRST. SLOWLY, SLOWLY ENOUGH. ENTER STRING. LEE WAS RETAINED BY THE COMPANY AS THE ENGINEER AND FILED THE INITIAL APPLICATION. AS THE ENGINEER. YET HE'S UP HERE TELLING YOU NOW THAT OH, IT'S NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. HE COLLECTED A CHECK FOR THAT. UM. AND NOW HE WANTS TO TELL YOU THAT HE WOULD RATHER TAKE HIS GOLF CART. HALF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. RATHER THAN GOING IN THE MARINA. THAT'S RIGHT AT HIS CONDO. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? THAT CAME BECAUSE WE FILED THE MOTION TO DISMISS BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE APPEAL. THAT WAS THEIR STRETCHING IT TRY TO FIND[01:55:02]
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW CONNECT US TO THE SITE, AND THEY FAILED. THE OTHERS. THEY TALKED ABOUT. WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL. OKAY? THAT'S NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL IMPACT THAT IS A GENERAL COMMUNITY COMPLETE THAT YOUR SON WAS WRONG? IT'S NOTHING ABOUT THEM IN PARTICULAR. UM. MISS FRANKLIN, WHO SPOKE FOR MR GANT. ADDRESSED SOME SITUATION YEARS AGO WHERE THEY THINK THEY FOUND DUST IN HIS COFFEE CUP. THAT'S HOW FAR WE'VE HAD THE STRETCH TODAY. TO TRY TO GET TO STANDING. THAT'S THE BEST THEY COULD DO, AND IT FAILS, IT FAILS TO STAND. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU TODAY. LET US MOVE FORWARD AND USE THIS PROPERTY LIKE WE'VE BEEN APPROVED FOR.THE CODE REQUIRES THEM TO SHOW YOU THAT'S SOMETHING OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER. THAT YOU'VE APPROVED NOT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE NOW OR THAT THEY THINK SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER MATERIALLY ALTERS THE USE OR DENSITY OR INTENSITY OF USE IN VIOLATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND BY THAT. ADVERSELY AFFECTS ME, APPELLATE YOU KNOW, HIGHER DEGREE THAN ANYBODY ELSE. THOSE WORDS DO NOT APPEAR IN THE APPEAL ANY PLACE. NOWHERE. THE STAIN IS TO BE LIFTED. AND YOU, GENTLEMEN. IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO DO. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE COMMUNITIES PEOPLE UP HERE AGAINST YOU. BUT YOU HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY AND THE DUTY TO DO THE RIGHT THING TODAY AND END THIS IN THE STATE. AND ALLOW THIS PROPERTY OWNER TO DO WHAT IT IS LEGALLY AUTHORIZED TO DO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WE HAVE HEARD ALL THE TESTIMONY. THAT'S MR LIEBERT HAS GIVEN US INSTRUCTION. WE CAN FIND THAT THEY HAVE STANDING SIR. NO SIR, WE CLOSED. THE PUBLIC PORTION WILL MAKE A DECISION WHETHER WE MOVE TO THE NEXT MEETING, WHETHER THEY'RE STANDING OR NOT STANDING AND THEN WE HEARD JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, SIR. SHE GOT THIS DOG KNOWS THEY FOUND IT, SO THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT GET A REBUTTAL. SO. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE WE CAN DETERMINE THAT HAVE STANDING NOT STANDING OR NOT MAKE A DECISION AND, UM, MAKE A MOTION FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED.
AUGUST 16TH. WE HAVE THOSE THREE OPTIONS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MOTION OF SOME KIND. ONE OF THOSE THREE DISCUSSION. COULD. COULD YOU GET? CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO BETTER REFRESH US BRON ON OUR OPTIONS AND WHAT'S COMING OFF IN AUGUST? AND WHAT HAPPENS TODAY OF. SO AGAIN, TODAY'S HEARING IS NOT ON THE MERITS OF WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT OR NOT A GOOD PROJECT. WHETHER STAFF UH DID THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER CORRECTLY OR NOT. THE ONLY QUESTION THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TODAY IS WHETHER THESE FOLKS SITTING OVER HERE ARE THE ARE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO CHALLENGE THIS. CASE AND BOTH SIDES HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU WHAT THAT. WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS UNDER OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE ADVERSELY AFFECTED. UM THAT THEY HAVE AN INTEREST THAT'S PROTECTED BY THE COM PLANT. AND THAT THEIR INTEREST IS MORE INTENSE IS GREATER. AND, UM IN SOME WAY THAN THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FILED FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT WHETHER THE APPELLANTS HAVE STANDING TO BRING THE SPACE THAT THAT MOTION IS IN FRONT OF YOU. UM YOU CAN RULE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. IN WHICH CASE THIS UM. APPEAL GOES AWAY AND THE APPELLANT'S CAN TAKE WHATEVER APPROPRIATE ACTION THEY WANT TO TAKE. AFTER THIS THEY? YOU CAN, UM. DENY THE MOTION, WHICH WOULD ALLOW, UM, THE CASE TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE TO OUR NEXT HEARING ON AUGUST 16TH WORD, YOU'LL BE YOU'LL GET ABOUT. YOU'LL GET A MUCH MORE DETAILED HEARING ABOUT WHETHER THE STAFF. ISSUED THE
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DEVELOPMENT ORDER CORRECTLY. OR THE THIRD OPTION IS TO IS TO DIFFER. UH UM, IN OTHER WORDS, JUST JUST HOLD OFF ON MAKING A DECISION ON STANDING AND MAKE A DECISION ON ON BOTH THE WHOLE MATTER. STANDING AND MERITS AT THE SAME TIME. YOU KNOW? THOSE ARE YOUR. THOSE ARE YOUR THREE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU, BRIAN TO CLARIFY. LET'S SAY WE RULE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE ACCEPT THE MOTION. WE DENY THE MOTION. BOTH PARTIES HAVE THE RIGHT AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO APPEAL THAT DETERMINATION TO THE CIRCUIT COURT CORRECT UM, SO IF YOU IF YOU DETERMINE THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE STANDING THEN THAT WOULD COMPLETE YOUR WORK AND IF THE APPELLANT'S WANTED TO GO TO SEARCH OF COURT, THEY COULD. IF YOU DECIDE THEY DO HAVE STANDING THAN YOUR WORK IS NOT COMPLETED . YET YOU WOULD GO FORWARD TO AUGUST BUT BUT THAT WOULD NOT. SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL OR DETERMINATION OF STANDING. UM ONLY ONLY AFTER THE DECISION OF THE MARRIAGE HAS MADE SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY WHAT WE WHAT WE LAWYERS CALL IT, YOU KNOW, WALKING TORY APPEAL WHERE YOU'D BE DECIDED. YOU NEED APPEALING THAT ISSUE TO THE COURT PRIOR TO FINAL DETERMINATION. OKAY SO BUT IF WE IN TURN RESERVE AND WE HEAR EVERYTHING AT ONCE, WHICHEVER SIDE APPEALS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE COMMISSION WILL NO LONGER BE PART OF THAT PROCESS. WELL AT THAT POINT, SO WHOEVER WHOEVER LOSES, UM WILL BE NAMING. THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS A DEFENDANT SO WE WILL. WE WILL BE ON THE ON THE SIDE OF WHOEVER YOU DECIDE ON BEHALF OF AND WE WILL BE PART OF THE NEXT STAGE. IF THERE IS A NEXT STAGE, THAT'S MORE SHOW YOU AND DON THAT IS CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR. SO IF THERE'S A MOTION TO DENY IT MOVES FORWARD. TO APPROVE. THEN IT STOPS HERE, AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO YEAH, WE CAN DIFFER. WELL, I WOULD, UH. LET ME JUMP INTO THE DEEP END OF THE POOL. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE TWO OPTIONS. I'M CONSIDERING THIS.I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TODAY. AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION. AND ALL OF US WOULD WE'VE DONE OUR HOMEWORK ON THIS. AND SO. COMMUNITY IN MY OPINION. HAS THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD. THE COMMUNITY HAS THE RIGHT TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. AND LIKE EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE. OUT. AND LET US MAKE A DECISION. THAT'S THE WAY THAT I FEEL ABOUT IT. UM, WHETHER WE DEFER IT. OR WHETHER WE CHOOSE ON THE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AND DENY EITHER.
ONE OF THOSE TWO MOVES IT FORWARD TO BRING IT TO US TO HEAR. I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HEAR THIS. WE SHOULD HEAR EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID IN THIS MATTER. ON BOTH SIDES.
MAKE A DECISION. AND THAT'S THE END OF IT. FOR US. AND IF WHICHEVER SIDE MOVES TO MOVE CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD. UM. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SATISFIED. THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HEAR IT ALL. MAKE A DECISION. ANOTHER COMMENTS. I'M I'M GLAD I GUESS.
JUMP IN NEXT ARE AGREE WITH YOU, BILL. I THINK UM THAT THAT WE NEED TO HEAR. MORE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, AND I THINK IN AUGUST WOULD BE POINT FOR BOTH SIDES TO UM, WOULD WHATEVER. CONVENTION ARGUMENTS THEY HAVE. FOR THEIR CALLS. SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I THINK, UM OTHERWISE, I THINK WE'RE CUTTING, CUTTING SOMEBODY OUT OF THEIR ABILITY TO ADDRESS THEIR GOVERNMENT. SO I AGREE WITH YOU ON MOUNTAIN. HOW WE DO IT IF WE DO WE SAY THEY DO HAVE A STANDING OR WE WON'T RESERVE UM VISITS. EITHER WAY. I CAN'T AGREE THAT. FOLKS, BOTH BOTH SIDES NEED TO BE HEARD IN AUGUST. MATTER? YES, SIR. I DON'T THINK WHATEVER WE DO MATTERS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO END UP IN CIRCUIT COURT. CONTRIBUTE. I THINK WE MAKE A DECISION. THEY DON'T LIKE THEY MAKE A DECISION. THEY DON'T LIKE TO THINK IT LANDS IN A JUDGE'S LAP SOONER OR LATER. UM AND I SYMPATHIZE WITH BOTH PARTIES. I REALLY DO. IT'S A CHALLENGE. UM
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AND AS WITH MOST CIVIL LAWSUITS THE TRUTH SOMEWHERE ALLIES IN THE MIDDLE UM YOU KNOW THIS THIS PROPERTY IT'S CALLED MCKENZIE ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS MACKENZIE TANK LINES PROPERTY WAY BACK IN THE DAY. UM IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE IT IS INDUSTRIAL THAT HAS NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING IT. I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY THAT'S LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION. UM, AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING IS THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE. HAS NOT BEEN VERY NEIGHBORLY. UM. WE WE CHANGED OUR NOISE ORDINANCE RECENTLY. THAT'S WHY MANDY'S NOT HEARING A LOT ANYMORE IS BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND MR SYKES IS UPSET ABOUT THAT. BUT WE DID THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T ACTING NEIGHBORLY, RIGHT? UM. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US UP HERE. NO, THE RIGHT ANSWER. I DON'T THINK ANY OF THIS. WE'RE GOING TO EVER MAKE THE RIGHT ANSWER. WE'RE GOING TO 50% OF THE PEOPLE MAD IN THIS ROOM. AND THAT'S WHY I SAY, I THINK THE JUDGE IS GOING TO DECIDE THIS. SO NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE, I THINK, AT THE END OF THE DAY ONE OF THE LOCAL CIRCUIT COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT. JUDGES IS GOING TO HAVE THIS AND MAKE THAT DECISION. UM I BELIEVE THAT, UM. THE DEFINITION OF WE HAVE. WE'VE BEEN EMAILED FOR STANDING. IS VERY BROAD. IT'S VERY LIBERAL.YOU COULD ALMOST. STANDING CAN BE JUST DEFINED BY ABOUT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS I DON'T THINK ANY DECISION WE MAKE HERE IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL DECISION. I THINK IT WILL BE DECIDED IN A CIRCUIT COURT. SO COME ON, COME ON. YES I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS STARTED WITH MR MITCHELL BACK BEFORE. THANKSGIVING ABOUT THIS HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WAS INVITED , SPOKE TO CITIZENS GROUP UP THERE HAVE BEEN SPOKEN WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, MAN. IT'S SPOKEN AT BY A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CUSSED OUT BY A LOT OF PEOPLE.
UM BUT INSIDE OF THIS, THE ONE THING THAT I CONCUR IS ONE I THINK THE FROM MY READING AND ASKING AND SITTING DOWN WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S THE STANDING QUESTION TO ME SHOULD BE INTERPRETED LIBERALLY IN THIS CASE. UH HUH. AND I THINK THEY DESERVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD. UM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD MANY OF THEM SAY, UM, WAS THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. PERIOD, AND SO MADE A COMMITMENT TO THEM WHEN I STOOD IN FRONT OF THEM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. UM AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION UNDERSTAND , ROBERT, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CHANCE TO SPEAK YET, BUT I'M JUST GONNA LAY THIS OUT HERE IS THAT EMOTION THAT WE RESERVE OUR DECISION ON STANDING UNTIL THE AUGUST 16TH HEARING AND WE WRAP ALL OF THIS TOGETHER? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS TO AFTER WE HAVE A 2ND 2ND. ALRIGHT, UM I WOULD AGREE. I GREW UP IN SOUTHPORT GOING TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING. I GOT MCDONALD'S MCKENZIE TAKE LAND TRUCKS ALL THE TIME. SO I WAS ACCUSTOMED TO IT, BUT WHATEVER IT GOES HERE, IT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHETHER YOU LIVE ACROSS THE BAYOU WE'VE GOT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, SO THEREFORE I THINK THAT'S STANDING. THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME ON THIS FACILITY. UM THEY HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY VENUE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO SPEAK TO ALLOW US TO HEAR THEIR SIDE OF IT. I'M IN THE SAME LINE OF BUSINESSES MR SLAIN IS AND THAT IS WORKING FOR DEVELOPERS AND PULLING PERMITS. AND SO I'VE BEEN ON THAT OTHER SIDE. I UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S NOT ALWAYS FAVORABLE. IF YOU GO TO WALTON COUNTY, THESE MEETINGS WOULD STILL BE GOING ON FOR ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR HOURS WITH ONLY ABOUT HALF OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS. SO UM, THANK YOU, BACON.
THANK YOU. WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT. BUT BUT I REALLY THINK THAT YOU KNOW, OUR CODE IS SET UP TO BE DEVELOPER FRIENDLY TO BE CO FRIENDLY. UM IF IT MEETS THE CODE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO GO BUILD IT, HOWEVER. WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN APPEAL PROCESS IF IT WOULDN'T BE USED JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SIX YEARS AND NEVER USED. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPEALED. BUT, UM, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WHETHER WE HAVE THAT FINAL DECISION BECAUSE I'M IN AGREEMENT, IT'S GOING TO GO TO COURT. I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THIS IS NOT THE END OF IT, BUT WE OWE IT TO OUR CITIZENS THAT PUT US IN THIS POSITION TO ALLOW YOUR VOICES TO BE HEARD. UM THEREFORE, I THINK WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AUGUST 16TH. HEARING. WELL LET THAT BE HEARD DECISION WE MADE AT THAT TIME. ONE SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE IS GONNA LIKE IT WAS NOT SO BUT WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN. WE'RE HERE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. AFTER ALL, THIS IS OVER. WE MAY
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NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME AND BEING WITH STAFF AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CODES AND ASPECTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHE DIDN'T LIKE THAT. WE DIDN'T SEE BEFORE THAT. MAYBE WE NEED TO FIX SOME THINGS LOOSEN SOMETHING, SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF GOOD THAT COMES OUT OF THIS. UM BUT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. AND WE OWE THAT TO YOU. WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COMPLEX. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM. AND WE WILL DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE AUGUST 16TH MEETING. TABLE TO TABLE TABLE TABLE TABLE. ALRIGHT WE HAVE MOTION SECONDED TABLE TO THE AUGUST 16TH. READING COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM.COMMISSIONER DOZER COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH COMMISSIONER HAM CHAIRMAN CAROL YES, MA'AM WITH THAT. WE HEARD YOU EARNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.