[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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GREAT GOOD MORNING. EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE MARCH, 7TH REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR THE BAY COUNTY COMMISSION. HE WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
COMMISSIONER MORE? . COMMISSIONER DOES YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, COMMISSIONER. PIECE CHAIRMAN. HAM? YES, MA'AM. AH, LET'S SEE. THIS MORNING'S INDICATION IS GOING TO BE LESS PLAYED BY PASTOR CARL SHOOTS OF CALVARY. PANAMA CITY AND THE PLEDGE OF THE LED BY MYSELF. GOOD MORNING MORNING. YOUR HANDS. FOLLOW ME. THANK YOU FOR A BEAUTIFUL DATING BACK COUNTY. LAURA. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, AND ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.
GOTTA ASK TO KEEP YOUR HAND ON. OUR LEADERSHIP WAS TO CONTINUE TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND HONOR YOU DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY. AMEN. THE PLEDGE.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT. WE HAVE ANY EMERGENCY. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS FOR THE AGENDA FROM
[E. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]
STAFF. MR CHAIRMAN. ANYBODY ELSE ? OKAY CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? PROBABLY HAVE EMOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER KAREL COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN. HAM? YES, MA'AM.[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED ONLY TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA)]
PRESENTATIONS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THERE'S ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.MY NAME IS CAPTAIN GARY WAYNE BACK 11 26. OH, ONE BEACH STREET . THE ITEM I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IS ADAM THREE. THE FUNDING FOR THE CRIME STOPPERS PROGRAM. COMMISSIONER DOZER. DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK THIS MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO THE FACT THAT I HAVE UNCOVERED SUCH AN ENTITY THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS BY STEALING HER PROPERTIES WITH STRONG ARMED ROBBERY? NOTHING SHORT OF EXTORTION. WHEN YOU TAKING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT THINK WE NEED TO APPOINT THIS MONEY TOWARDS THE CRIMES OF THAT? HAVE IT MORE THAN EXPOSED TIME AND TIME AGAIN AGAINST THIS COMMUNITY. AND THESE GOOD PEOPLE? YES OR NO? YOU KNOW, WITH OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE CRIME STOPPERS , YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT TO TAKE AND FOCUS SOME OF THIS MONEY TOWARDS SOME OF THESE PEOPLE. THAT'S BEEN DOING ALL THESE BAD THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THIS COMMUNITY. DO YOUR DO YOU NOT? YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF HOLDING BACK BECAUSE YOU GOT A BUNCH OF YOUNG GUNS BACK THERE. BUT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WHEN I TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE JUDGES HAS BEEN DOING THE WRONG AND LAWYERS. YOU KNOW VINCENT AND FISHER AND ALL THOSE OTHER LAWYERS THAT CAN IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, AND HOW YOU STOLE MY IDENTITY IN 2010. DO YOU NOT THINK THAT MONEY SHOULD GO TOWARDS THAT? DO YOUR DO YOU NOT THINK THAT MONEY SHOULD GO TO THE FACT Y'ALL THINK Y'ALL COMING ON MY PROPERTY AND TAKING MY STUFF AFTER YOU ILLEGALLY SEIZED MY INVENTIONS YOU ILLEGALLY SEIZED MY, UM, STUFF. YOU TOOK MY TOOLS, MY REAL AND RODS MY CASTANETS, PLUS THE FACT MR DOZIER. YOU KNOW YOU WAS HERE. WHEN THE LAWYER TOLD ME THEY WERE GONNA KILL ME, THEY'RE GONNA FRAME ME AGAIN. DO NOT THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT MONEY ON THAT PERSON. IT WAS TELLING ME THEY'RE GONNA KILL ME. THAT WAS A LAWYER HERE IN THIS TOWN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HUH? AND DURING THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW I'M HERE FOR 10 YEARS. I WAS BETTER NOW I'M UP TO 13 YEARS I'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THIS FOR THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS. YOU KNOW THINGS THAT OUR FOREFATHERS DIED FOR TO KEEP US FREE. ALWAYS SAID WE'RE NOT FREE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A QUASI JUDICIAL SYSTEM. DO YOU NOT THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS MONEY AND GO TOWARDS QUASI JUDICIAL SYSTEM TOPICS? WE'RE TAKING THIS MONEY AND FOCUS IT TOWARDS A QUASI JUDICIAL SYSTEM. IT'S BEEN COMING AGAINST THE GOOD PEOPLE OF BAY COUNTY BUT TAKING PICTURES INSIDE THEIR BEDROOMS WHEN IT'S OVER THEIR FENCES. INSIDE THEIR HOMES, YOU KNOW, AND THEN COMING BACK AND SEIZING THEIR PROPERTY, PUTTING THE BAY COUNTY PEOPLE UNDER A MICROSCOPE. DO YOU NOT THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS MONEY ABOUT THAT? WHAT ABOUT MRS? UH MRS GARRETT? YOU KNOW DON BANKS OVER THERE, DO YOU NOT THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS MONEY AND FOCUS IT ON THE CRIME THAT WAS COMMITTED AGAINST MRS GARRETT. DO YOU NOT THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS MONEY AND FOCUS ON THE CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST DOUG? DO YOU NOT THINK WE NEED TO TAKE US TO THE MONEY AND FOCUS AGAINST ALL THE PEOPLE THAT Y'ALL BEEN COMMITTING THE CRIMES AGAINST AGAINST THE GOOD PEOPLE OF BAY COUNTY? YES OR NO? PLEASE ANSWER THAT QUESTION. PLEASE REMEMBER THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS IS THE SUPREME LAW. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD
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LIKE TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA? OKAY SEE YOU. NONE WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR. AND WHEN WE[I. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
WENT TO CONSENT, MR MARGARET YES , SIR. MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS GOOD MORNING ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY UNDER THE CLERK'S OFFICE, ITEM, ONE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES AND DECEMBER TGT REPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE ITEM, TWO HELICOPTER FINANCING AND INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BAY COUNTY SHERIFF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE FINAL HELICOPTER FINANCING RESOLUTION. AND INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ITEM.THREE CRIMESTOPPERS FUNDING AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN OF SIGNED THE APPROVAL LETTER FOR PANHANDLE CRIMESTOPPERS TO RECEIVE FUNDS FROM CRIME STOPPERS TRUST FUND UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY ITEM FORWARD DISASTER CONSULTANT CONSULTANT. TASK ORDER 19 PROCEED ER MCGUIRE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED TASK QUARTER 19 THE CDR MCGUIRE TO PROVIDE DISASTER CONSULTING SERVICES AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE SAME UNDER HOUSING SERVICES ITEM FIVE AGREEMENT TO CONVEY THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM TO PANAMA CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE BOARD APPROVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM AGREEMENT, CONVEYING THE PROGRAM TO THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT. ITEM SIX.
ST BERNARD'S PROJECT MAN PROJECT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH ST BERNARD'S PROJECT OF FLORIDA. SBP TO ASSIST THE HOUSING DIVISION WITH HURRICANE HOUSING RECOVERY PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE DOCUMENTS AND ANY CHANGES APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER OUTSIDE AGENCIES. ITEM SEVEN PROJECT MAPLE TRIUMPH SUPPORT RESOLUTION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SUPPORT RESOLUTION TRIBE GULF COAST FOR PROJECT MAPLE AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME ITEM. EIGHT PROJECT AQUA TRIUMPH SUPPORT RESOLUTION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SUPPORT RESOLUTION TO TRIUMPH GULF COAST FOR PROJECT AQUA AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME UNDER PUBLIC WORKS OUT OF NINE EAST HIGHLAND PARK. STORMWATER HURRICANE SALLY GENERAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SUBMITTAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR C D. B G INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANE SALLY REBUILD FLORIDA GENERAL INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR PROGRAM. AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME AND UTILITY SERVICES.
ITEM. 10 NORTH BAY WASTEWATER FACILITY. SEQUENCING BATCH REACTOR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE STAFF THE NEGOTIATED CONTRACT FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE NORTH BAY WASTEWATER FACILITY SEQUENCING BATCH REACTOR WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM DEWBERRY ENGINEERS INC. AND IF AN ACCEPTABLE AGREEMENT CANNOT BE REACHED, WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM NEGOTIATED CONTRACT WITH THE SECOND RANKED FIRM. BORDER DESIGN SOLUTIONS INC. ITEM. 11 UTILITY TRANSACTIONS. EVALUATION PIGGYBACK CONTRACT TASK ORDER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD APPROVED TO TASK ORDERS WITH RAP TELUS FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS INC FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $30,000 AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE TASK ORDERS AND ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL CONSENT. ALRIGHT WE HAVE EMOTIONAL SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZER COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES MA'AM MISSIONER MORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM, MA'AM? YES, MA'AM.
[12. Interlocal Service Boundary Agreement]
ALRIGHT NEXT ONE MOVE INTO PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 12 INTER LOCAL SERVICE FOUNDRY AGREEMENT.MY ATTORNEY, BRIAN LIEBER. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. LYNN HAVEN HAS AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN THEIR EXCLUSIVE UTILITY SERVICE AREA BUT OUTSIDE THEIR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. WHAT THIS AGREEMENT. PROVIDES FOR IS THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MUNICIPAL TYPE SERVICES WITHIN THOSE KIND OF ISLANDS OF THE COUNTY WITHIN THE CITY, AND IN EXCHANGE, THE COUNTY WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO VOLUNTARILY ANNEX PROPERTIES, UM, THAT ARE WITHIN THE EXCLUSIVE SERVICE AREA, BUT OUTSIDE THEIR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS COMMENTS JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. SO ESSENTIALLY BRYAN THE OUTER BOUNDARIES ALREADY DRAWN. THIS JUST ALLOWS EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY WHERE THEY CAN COME INTO THE CITY WITHOUT BEING CONTINUOUS AND IN THE CITY WOULD AGREE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. THAT'S RIGHT. THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. UM AND IT . IT'S NOT PROPERTY ON THE BOUNDARY WHERE YOU KNOW SOME OTHER CITY MIGHT BE COMPETING FOR THE CITIZENS. THESE ARE. THESE ARE ISLANDS INSIDE THE CITY, WHERE LYNN HAVEN IS THE ONLY JURISDICTION THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THEM. AND IT JUST IT'LL BE PROBABLY INEVITABLE THAT THOSE PROPERTIES EVENTUALLY WILL COME INTO THE CITY AND IN THIS PROCESS JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO COME INTO THE CITY TO DO SO. SO IT'S LIKE AN UNINCORPORATED IN HAVEN ESSENTIALLY EXACTLY OPPORTUNITY BECOMING THE CITY. ALL THE CITIES HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR WHERE YOU HAVE THESE. THEY'RE CALLED ENCLAVES. THE ISLANDS OF THE COUNTY INSIDE THE CITIES, AND WE HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE THE BASIS FOR SIMILAR AGREEMENTS WITH WITH OTHER CITIES THAT CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE ONE OR TWO AREAS THAT ARE COMPLETELY
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SURROUNDED BY LYNN HAVEN. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THAT SINCE IT'S ALREADY SURROUNDED, THERE'S NO OTHER CITY THAT'S GOING TO JUMP TO GET INTO THAT LITTLE AREA. IS THAT SOMETHING? WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE NEAR FUTURE OR JUST WAIT FOR THE CITY TO COME BACK AND REQUEST TO MODIFY THEIR BOUNDARY OR YEAH, IF THERE'S IF THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT ARE THAT ARE BETTER WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS MUNICIPAL SERVICE BOUNDARY THAT ARE ALSO ISLANDS. UM THAT MAYBE SOMETHING. LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. WHAT WE LIMITED. THIS, TOO, WAS AREAS WHERE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THERE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE THE UTILITY SERVICE FOR, UM THAT ARE NOT INSIDE THEIR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. OKAY? IN REGARDS. TO YOU KNOW, ONCE A CITY IN CORPORATE OR EXCUSE ME, ANNEXES X NUMBER OF PARCELS INTO A CITY ON A ROADWAY 51% OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. ARE WE MONITORING THAT TRACKING THAT THAT HAVE MORE THAN THAT THAN THE ROADWAY ALSO GOES TO THAT MUNICIPALITY. I'LL DEFER THAT QUESTION TO MAYBE JOEL. YES SO PUBLIC WORKS DOES MONITOR THAT ACTIVELY. WE HAVE A G I S LAYER THAT IDENTIFIES COUNTY ROADS VERSUS MUNICIPAL ROADS IN ONCE THE LINEAR FEET TO YOUR POINT EXCEEDS 50. WE WILL. WE WILL ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO TAKE THOSE ROADS, AND THAT'S ALREADY IN THAT ORIGINAL 95 AGREEMENT. THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS. IT'S REFERENCING THE AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S ALREADY IN THERE PERFECT. OKAY THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANKS FOR WATCHING BRIAN. COMMISSION DOES. I'M JUST GONNA POINT OUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD AGREEMENT THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WELL AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO UM, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS DEVELOP FURTHER, POSSIBLY UM EXPAND ON IT. I THINK THE KEY WORD THAT THAT YOU POINTED OUT IS VOLUNTARY. YES. VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. AND UH SO THAT THAT WILL GO OVER WELL, AND I'M SURE LYNN HAVEN OR WORK WELL WITH THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. SO THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? SHE STOLE MY COMMENT, BUT THAT'S JUST BE REDUNDANT, SAYING IT AGAIN. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S ALL. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION REQUIRE PUBLIC HERE.I'M SORRY. PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY OUT AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. YES, SIR.
COME ON DOWN, BUDDY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, TOM. OKAY CHARLES MITCHELL ATTITUDE 12. KINDA LIKE ROAD, SOUTH FLORIDA 32466. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS GIVE ME SOMETHING TO COMMENT ABOUT. AND WHAT I THINK I HEARD WAS WE HAVE AREAS OF UNINCORPORATED BAY COUNTY. THAT DOES NOW HAVE SERVICES NOW. THROUGH THE COUNTY. AND THAT THESE AREAS CAN BE ANNEXED INTO THE MAJOR MYTH MINISTER PALETTE E, WHICH THEY RESIDE IN IS I KNOW YOU CAN'T COMMENT TO THAT. THAT KIND OF BOTHERS ME. IT GOES BACK TO MY TALK SOMETIME AGO ABOUT WE'RE ALL THE TIME THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE LOOKING AT PROPERTIES AND YOU'RE CHANGING THE CODE. AND THE REGULATIONS THAT CONTROL THESE, IN OTHER WORDS, TAKEN AGRICULTURAL LAND AND MOVING IT TO WHATEVER THEY CALL IT SO THEY CAN BUILD APARTMENT BUILDINGS. AT SOME POINT IN TIME. WE HAVE TO STOP AND LOOK AT THESE PARCELS OF PROPERTY. BECAUSE HURRICANE MICHAEL SHOWED US THAT TREES ARE IMPORTANT. IT'S ALL THE TIME THESE PARCELS OF PROPERTIES ARE COMING UP. THEY'RE BEING CHANGED. AND THE CONTRACTORS GO IN. THEY STRIP ALL THE TWOS OUT . DO THE BUILD THEIR BUILDINGS AND MY MAKING SENSE. SHAKY. YES OR NO? NO. I JUST THINK IT'S SOME POINT IN TIME. WE HAVE TO STOP. AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE STILL NEED AGRICULTURAL LAND. AND NOT CONVERT THEM ALL TO APARTMENT BUILDINGS. YES WE NEED APARTMENT PULLING, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED THEM LIKE THEY'RE BUILDING APARTMENTS ON STAR AM NEW. THEY'RE GOING CRAZY ON 3 90. WHEN DOES IT END? WHEN DO YOU GUYS SAYING NO? BECAUSE SO FAR TODAY THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD NO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY, STILL GOT TIME. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. REMEMBER AS LONG AS IT GOT DIAMOND DUCT TAPE WILL NOT FIX STUPID. BUT I SURE AS HELL WILL
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MUFFLE THE SOUND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MR CHAIRMAN. I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE SO THAT YOU'RE GONNA RESPOND TO THAT. GO AHEAD. WELL, SO BUT IT DIDN'T ANSWER WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. SO IF CITY LYNN HAVEN THERE'S A BOUNDARY ALREADY DRAWN AND ANYTHING WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY THAT'S WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT CURRENTLY MAY OR MAY NOT BE GETTING WATER OR SEWER FROM THE CITY, BUT ALLOWS THEM TO VOLUNTARILY BECOME PART OF THE CITY. BUT AGAIN IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE CURRENT BOUNDARY. THEY CAN'T JUST GO TAKE A PIECE OF YOUNGSTOWN AND DECIDE I WANT TO BE IN PANAMA CITY OR LYNN HAVEN, SO IT'S ONLY WITHIN THE EXISTING SERVICE AREA, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY ENCLAVES. I WISH WE HAD A MAP ON THE SCREEN. YOU CAN SEE IT THAT MAP UP THERE, BUT IF YOU SEE THE MAP, SO YOU MAY BE SURROUNDED BY ALL IN HAVEN RESIDENTS. YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND IF YOU VOLUNTARILY WANT TO JOIN, THEN YOU CAN BECOME PART OF THAT CITY PAY THEIR MILLET RATES BE PART OF THE CITY. HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THOSE CITY ELECTIONS. UM, BUT IT'S ONLY WITHIN THE SERVICE BENNETT. WE'RE NOT EXPLAINING THE BOUNDARY AT ALL. IT'S JUST THESE LITTLE SPOTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY. I HOPE THAT IT UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THE MAP. IT REALLY UH, MAKE IT MORE CLEAR TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND AND THIS WILL BE UP TO THE HOMEOWNER TO COME TO THE CITY IN FRONT OF THEIR PLANNING BOARD THEIR CITY COMMISSION SAY, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF YOUR CITY. BUT ONLY IF IT'S WITHIN THE EXISTING SERVICE BOUNDARY. NO, SIR. THIS GIVES THEM FULL RIGHT TO THEN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITHOUT US HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, OBJECT TO THAT. TYPICALLY IF THEY DO AN ANNEXATION, WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY GIVING THEM IF IT'S IN YOUR SERVICE AREA, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME PART OF THEIR CITY. AND THERE WE ARE. ALL RIGHT, OKAY. WAS THAT BOB JOE WASN'T CORRECT. YES. YES. SO THE. HE DIDN'T DO IT THE PINK AREAS WITHIN THIS MAP OF THE CITY LIMITS OF LYNN HAVEN. OR CONSIDER INCORPORATED. COUNTY. SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAYING? IS THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THESE BOUNDARIES CAN VOLUNTARILY ASKED TO BECOME PART OF GLEN HAVEN. BUT ANYBODY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY OF LYNN HAVEN CANNOT ASK. TO BECOME PART OF AN HAVEN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INLAND HAVEN. IT'S ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE TO START WITH. MEANWHILE, THEY CAN BE SERVED BY THE HAVEN UTILITIES WITHIN LYNN HAVENS. AREA TO SERVE THEM FOR UTILITIES. BUT THE RED LINE THAT GOES AROUND THE PERIMETER. THEY CANNOT GO OUTSIDE OF THAT RED LINE, RIGHT? COLLEGE POINT HARVARD BOULEVARD. THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. IT'S ONLY THOSE PARCELS YOU SEE IN RED. SO IT'S A BENEFIT THE WAY THAT I SEE THIS, MR CHAIRMAN, THIS THE BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE IN UNINCORPORATED AREA THERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE BENEFITED BY HAVING THE OPTION TO N X N IF THEY WANT TO, BUT ALSO RECEIVING SERVICE FROM UTILITIES WORKS IN THEIR FAVOR. AND DOCUMENTATION. THE KEY WORD IS VOLUNTEER. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO. NO ONE'S GOING TO MANDATE THAT THEY HAVE TO CORRECT. OKAY? ANYBODY ELSE? WE'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE LEADERSHIP, BABY FOLKS THAT ARE FOR YOU GUYS COMING. HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR SHORT MOMENTS HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE'LL GIVE THEM A FEW MINUTES TO. EVEN GO ON TO THEIR NEXT DESTINATION.ALRIGHT KIDS LEARN THE COST TO SHIN OF BILL O'BRIEN. SORRY YOU NEED TO BE QUIET. UM. ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE FLOOR. ON THE LOCAL SERVICE MOTION TO APPROVE ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE MOTION IN THE SECOND CALL THE ROLL ONE. COMMISSIONER DOZER YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORE
[13. Publication Notice Ordinance]
YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER PIECE? YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN HAN? YES, MA'AM. NEXT NUMBER 13.PUBLICATION NOTICE ORDINANCES. MR LIEBER. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. SO LAST YEAR, THE STATE PROVIDED THAT NOTICES THAT USED TO HAVE TO GO IN THE NEWSPAPER COULD COULD GO
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ON A WEBSITE THAT THE COUNTY CREATED IN THE COUNTY HAS CREATED A PUBLIC NOTICE WEBSITE THAT THE COUNTY AND ALL THE CITIES AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS INSIDE THE CITY ARE ALLOWED TO USE IN LIEU OF A NEWSPAPER AD. WE HAVE SOME, UM LOCAL REQUIREMENTS OURSELVES IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT THAT REQUIRE NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENTS FOR VARIOUS THINGS. AND SO THIS ORDINANCE MODIFIES REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LOCAL CODE. TO PROVIDE THAT IT CAN ALSO GO ON A ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE IN LIEU OF NEWSPAPER. COMMENTS CONCERNS YES. SO ON LANGUAGE CHANGE THE ZONING CHANGES THAT STILL WE'RE NOT CHANGING BY. WE'RE STILL DOING THE NOTICES BY CERTIFIED MAIL. THEY'RE STILL POSTING ON THE PROPERTY THAT DIDN'T GET RID OF ANY OF THAT.THIS IS JUST THE PUBLICATION. SO THIS ORDINANCE ONLY DEALS? UM SO YES. THIS THIS AUDIENCE ONLY DEALS WITH NON LAND USE CHANGES THINGS THAT ARE IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. SO IT'S UM, THERE'S SOME PROCUREMENT RULES AND SOME, UM UH, UM, RULES REGARDING PURCHASING A PROPERTY THAT REQUIRE NEWSPAPER ADS, AND THIS ADDRESS IS THAT THERE IS A COMPANION, UM UM, UH, CHANGE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE YOU. SOON IS ALREADY GONE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT PROVIDES THAT THE, UM THE NOTICES THAT USED TO GO IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR, UM LAND USE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE WILL WILL WILL CAN NOW BE POSTED IN THERE. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE, UM THE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING. NOTICES ARE MAILED AND NOTICES ARE POSTED. THOSE THOSE REMAIN UNCHANGED, BUT THAT'S THAT'S IN A DIFFERENT PIECE OF THAT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM THAT BECOMING BEFORE YOU SOON. YOU HAVE THE QUESTIONS? MIGHT GET EMOTIONAL PUBLIC HERE AND HERE WE GO AGAIN, ALMOST FORGOT PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT. SEE YOU, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT FORWARD.
MOTION MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOES YES, MA'AM
[L. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED TO ITEMS WHICH THE COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY)]
CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. OPEN TO ANY ISSUE RELATED TO WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK YOU'RE COUNTING HAS AUTHORITY OVER. YES, SIR. PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MA'AM. 600 COULD YOU SEND CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE? ARE YOU CONTROL IT TO YOU? THE MICROPHONE MICROPHONE. WE CAN'T HOLD IT HERE YOUR TIME.YEAH. HIT IT. HIT PLAY. THIS IS HER TIME, SIR. CAPTAIN GARY CLAIM. 46 1 BEACH STREET.
THERE'S BEEN A TAX AND ATTACHED TO MY PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE $250 A DAY FIND THE CODE, OF COURSE FOR THE CYST AGAINST ME WHEN I PUT UP MY SCIENCE, A PROTEST FROM WHERE YOU STOLE MY ENERGY INVENTIONS, EMMA OIL SPILL INVENTIONS AND TRASHED EVERYTHING THAT I DURING THE MEANTIME. TRYING TO GET UP AND THEY SAID FOR ME TO CALL WELL, I CAN'T CALL DISCOVER. BUILDING BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAS BLOCKED. SO NOW I'M FACED WITH THE FACT THAT I'M GETTING ASSESSED PROPERTY TAX AND A LIEN FOR YOUR CORRUPTION TO BEGIN WITH. SO HOW AM I TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION WHERE YOU ALL ARE RAILROAD AND PEOPLE WITH STATUTES AND CORRUPTION? GET CALL HERE. THEY STOPPED MY NUMBER FROM BEING ABLE TO CALL HERE A LONG TIME AGO. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I GET SOMETHING INTO MY ALSO, IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CAN'T CALL YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TIME AND AGAIN. I'VE GOT RECORDING AFTER RECORDING AFTER RECORDING.
$50 A DAY BECAUSE I HAD SIGNS UP FROM WHERE YOU ALL COME ON MY PROPERTY FROM WHERE I CAN MORE THAN WITHOUT A JUDGE'S SIGNATURE MORE THAN PROVE THAT I HAD BEEN THERE SINCE 2010 WHERE I CAN MORE THAN PROOF. CORRUPT MEDIA WAS COVERED THINGS UP TO MAKING IT WAS LIKE IT WAS ONLY A ONE YEAR THING FROM MY YARD WAS MESSY, YOU KNOW. BECAUSE A DAY FOR HOWEVER MANY DAYS PLUS ALL THE OTHER FINES AND STUFF AND I'M SUPPOSED TO PAY THIS AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON MY NEXT TAX BILL. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST I DO ABOUT THE SITUATION, HUH? ANYBODY. THOMAS GEORGE GAINER.
CHANEL CREATED THIS ISSUE, BUT NOT DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BACK IN 2010. WHEN I SHOWED UP, YOU KNOW WHAT DESTROYED MY WORLD. ON THE LEADERS. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. OH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KEEP TELLING THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ADDRESS ME
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EVERY TIME I STEP UP HERE AFTER THE MEETING TO MIX OVER TWO MEETINGS OVER AND I'VE GOT WHAT, THREE MINUTES? SEVEN TIME FOR HOW LONG? 10 YEARS. WELL, GUESS WHAT? 10 YEARS OF THREE MINUTES . THEY KNOW WHAT YOU CAN HIDE YOUR CORRUPTION ANYMORE. WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY. YOU ARE THE LEADERS. YOU WANT TO ADVANCE IN OUR GOVERNMENT? UH HUH. HEY MY BILL. I DON'T THINK SO. I'LL FIGHT FIRST. NO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I NO IDEA WHAT'S RIGHT. IS THIS GOVERNMENT THAT DROPPED THE BALL ON AMERICA? NOT JUST A COUNTY, BUT YOU KNOW BROWN FACED WITH A DEFECT, SHOVING DOMINATED BY COUNTY SUCH A WAY THAT YOU TAKE INTO PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. YOU KNOW, JAMES SPEAK. MEDICINE IS APPROACHING. THANK YOU FOR THAT . WHATEVER THAT WAS, MAN, AND WE NEVER DID GET YOUR NAME ON TRUE, WICK. OKAY, MAKE SURE YOU TURN THAT OFF, SO IT'S NOT DISRUPTING. OKAY? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CAPTAIN GARY WAYNE BACK . I LIVE AT 26. OH, ONE BEACH STREET. GENTLEMEN YOU'RE JUST SEEING THE TIME MACHINE BECAUSE HERE IT IS FAST FORWARD IN TIME. YOU KNOW, I'M STILL HERE AND I'VE COLLECTED ALL THIS EVIDENCE AS TALKED TOGETHER INTELLIGENCE BY SOME OF THE BEST MEN ON THE PLANET. I WAS GETTING ALL THIS INTELLIGENCE ABOUT THE CHILD TRAFFICKING AND ALL THE DRUGS AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IN THIS TOWN AGAINST THE PEOPLE COMING DIRECTLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOSE TWO GUYS IN HERE. LET'S CHILDREN IN HERE EARLIER, COULD NONE OF THOSE CHILDREN NAME ANY OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS. BUT EXCEPT FOR TWO EVERYBODY GOT NUMBER ONE AND EVERYBODY GOT NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW, IN A SAD THING ABOUT IT IS FREEDOM OF PRESS. WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST KEPT PRESSED BACK THERE THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE. YOU GOT THEM IN THE BOX BACK THERE AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE SURROUNDING THEM AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND NOW YOU'RE COMING AGAIN TO TAKE MY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW? AND YET YOU'RE SAYING THAT I DIDN'T PAY MY PROPERTY TAXES. I TRIED TO PAY MY PROPERTY TAXES NUMEROUS DIFFERENT TIMES. AND YOU WOULDN'T LET ME PAY MY PROPERTY TAXES UNLESS I PAID THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TAXES. THEN MY MAMA PAID IT. YOU KNOW THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN HIS STRONG ARM EXTORTION. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A STOP TO IT. YOU KNOW, I'M OBLIGATED TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS AGAINST ALL ENEMIES SWORN IN DOMESTIC YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT ONLY ME, IT'S THE REPUBLIC.YOU KNOW THE THING Y'ALL FORGETTING ABOUT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, DC, REMEMBER THE OLD BOY THE OTHER DAY THAT THEY HIRED WITH THE NUCLEAR THING THAT DRESSES UP LIKE A DOG, YOU KNOW, AND HE DOES ALL THAT SADOMASOCHIST STUFF JUST LIKE HERE IN BAY COUNTY. REMEMBER WHAT CAN'T SAY IT. BUT YOU GUYS GET TO GO A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND BE BACK COUNT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT CHANCE SAID. REMEMBER BEAST DUALITY. YOU KNOW, ONE IN WHITE HOUSE. THEY'RE DRESSING UP LIKE DOGS, YOU KNOW HERE. THEY'RE HAVING YOU KNOW WHAT WITH IT.
AND IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW I COULD BE OUT THERE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT. GOD KNOWS I'VE BEEN PRAYING. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN PRAYING AND PRAYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. AND I CAN IMPROVE EVERYTHING I SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN NO HARM TOWARDS MISS CLARA BECAUSE, MISS CLARA. SHE'S ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT THAT'S LISTENING AND SHE'S GOT ALL THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT I SAID.
JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE PLANET. YOU KNOW, Y'ALL IN YOUR INBRED KISSING, GRIT, CUSSING CIRCLE. AND YOU MAKING A FOOL OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED UPON. YOU'RE MAKING A FOOL OUT OF EVERYTHING . EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD THAT EVER THOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR COUNTRY. AND YOU ARE TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUT THOSE CLOSE TO US, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PEOPLE GOT TO BE GOOD, MR CARROLL AND ALL THAT. YOU'LL HANG UP THE PHONE ON THE PEOPLE AND THEY DESTROY THEIR HOMES. YOU KNOW THESE OLDER PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN THERE AND THEY DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN PEACE. I WATCH CORNBREAD FED MEN COME UP AND TAKE EVERYTHING THEY GOT. YOU KNOW? UH HOW MUCH LONGER? YOU THINK I'M GONNA PUT UP WITH THIS? WHO DO YOU THINK I SHOULD HOLD RESPONSIBLE? HUH? WHO DO YOU THINK I SHOULD HOLD RESPONSIBLE? DURING THE MEANTIME , YOU KNOW, HERE I AM TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON MY ENERGY INVENTIONS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, UM, ANYBODY ELSE? YES, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. COME ON DOWN. THE PUBLIC IS PUBLIC COMMENTS JUST QUESTION ON ANYTHING. JUST ANY ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT.
CHARLES MITCHELL, LADY TO 12 CLIENT LIKE ROAD YOUNGSTER IN FLORIDA 32466. ALL RIGHT. I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE PINK AREAS ON THE MAP. AND I GO BACK TO THE PARTICIPATING PAYMENT PROGRAM. WHAT IF THE PEOPLE ON THAT PINK AREA HALF OF THEM SAY WE DO WANT TO DO IT AND HALF OF THEM SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS AND DOES IT COME TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION? OR DOES IT GO INTO A CIVIL SITUATION? WHERE THE LAWYERS AND A JUDGE WILL DECIDE.
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YOU GOT TO DO SO THAT MY QUESTION THAT I THINK I JUST WANT TO IF IT'S VOLUNTARY. HALF OF THEM SAY WE WANT TO DO IT. HAVE SOME SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? OKAY, BUT WE WANT TO JUST HANG OUT AFTER AFTERWARDS WILL WILL GET JOEL. DR COOL AND ACTUALLY GOOD . GOOD QUESTION. I STILL GOT TWO MINUTES. YES, GO AHEAD. I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN THE MILITARY IF YOU NEEDED A VEHICLE. TO DO YOUR JOB. HE HAD TO GO TO THE MOTOR POOL OFFICER AND HE WOULD ASSIGN YOUR VEHICLE AND THE WAY HE WENT. BUT WHEN YOU RETURN, YOU MUST HAVE A MILEAGE REPORT AND EVERYTHING I THINK FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT. AND I LOOK AT ALL THE VEHICLES WE HAVE IN THE PARKING LOT OUT THERE. AND I JUST WONDER IF WHAT KIND OF CONTROL DO WE HAVE OVER THOSE VEHICLES? BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE ARE TAKING THEM HOME WITH HIM. THAT'S A BENEFIT. A BENEFIT HAS VALUE TO IT. AND THEN IT MUST BE REPORTED THE I R. S SO THEY MUST PAY THAT BENEFIT ON THEIR TAXES. I JUST REMEMBER IN THE MILITARY WE HAD TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE IN THE MILITARY. PROBABLY NOT THAT OLD YET. BUT I CAN REMEMBER WHEN I REQUIRED A VEHICLE TO FUNCTION . I HAD TO GO TO THE MOTOR POOL OFFICER. AND GET ONE ASSIGNED TO ME AND NO, IT DIDN'T SAY CODE ENFORCEMENT. WHATEVER ON THE DOOR. IT WAS A VEHICLE. THEY GOT YOU AROUND. AND WHEN YOU RETURN IT, YOU MUST REPORT ALL THE PLACES YOU WENT WITH IT AND A MONETARY BOARD. THAT'S I'M SAYING, I THINK IT WOULD HELP WITH THE BUDGET. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.CLOSE THE FLOOR AND WOULD GO INTO COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT REPORT. MR CHAIRMAN THE MANAGERS
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REPORT. YES SIR. MR CHAIRMAN IF I COULD ADDRESS MR MITCHELL'S CONCERNED ABOUT VEHICLES, UM, WE UTILIZE THE TECHNOLOGY CALLED AUTOMATED VEHICLE LOCATION. OUR VEHICLES HAVE GPS ON THEM. SO WE CAN NOT ONLY TRACK WHERE THEY GO HOW FAST THEY GO. HOW LONG WE OPERATE? UM DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW DIFFERENT SETS OF DATA, SO THAT'S HOW WE KEEP UM, A PICTURE IF YOU WILL OF HOWARD COUNTY VEHICLES ARE USED. UM AND THEN WE HAVE VERY FEW TAKE HOME VEHICLES. MOST OF THE VEHICLES ARE OPERATED DAILY BY OUR STAFF, AND THEN THEY'RE PARKED AT NIGHT, SO THERE'S VERY FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TO GO TO CLAIM THAT IRIS BENEFIT MOST OF OUR PERSONNEL THAT DO HAVE TAKEN VEHICLES OR IN SOME TYPE OF EMERGENCY ON CALL CAPACITY, WHERE THEY'RE EXPECTED TO RESPOND. UM TO EMERGENCIES AFTER HOURS TO WHETHER THAT'S AN EMERGENCY SERVICES OR ROAD AND BRIDGE OR UTILITIES THAT HAVE SOME TYPE OF AFTER HOURS ON CALL RESPONSIBILITY, AND THE GENERALLY ONLY HAVE THOSE VEHICLES WHEN THEY'RE IN THAT ON CALL CAPACITY. CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE CHIEF EMERGENCY SERVICES, FOR EXAMPLE , IN THE COMMAND STAFF AND EMERGENCY SERVICES THERE IN THAT CAPACITY 24 7. BUT OTHER PERSONNEL OR NOT, THEY ROTATE AND THOSE VEHICLES ARE ONLY TAKEN HOME AS THEY'RE NEEDED. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. IT'S COOLING[O. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS]
NEXT. YES, GERMAN COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS WE START WITH COMMISSIONER PLEASE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TODAY. OKAY? YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER, KAREL YES, SIR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM SESSION STARTED TODAY CALLED GRIFF THIS MORNING JUST TO WISH HIM LUCK AND MAKING SURE ALL IS WELL AND TELL HIM TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS WHICH WE KNOW WE WILL. BUT I JUST WANT TO SEND PRAYERS TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO SERVE OUR GREAT STATE AND HOPEFULLY MAKE WISE DECISIONS AND EVERY LAW THEY CREATE. THEY GET RID OF TWO. LET'S HOPE BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S WISHFUL THINKING. UM THERE WERE A BUNCH OF SPORTS PARKS THAT OPENED THIS PAST WEEKEND AND SOCCER AND BASEBALL. WE BALL THAT HAS KICKED OFF. UM SO JUST GREAT TO SEE ALL THE YOUTH THAT ARE OUT THERE USING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES BOTH IN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SPORTS DIRECTORS THAT ARE PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS HAD THE BLESSING TO COACH BOTH MY GIRLS FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS IN SOCCER, AND SO ANYWAY TAKES TAKES A LOT FOR THOSE AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DO THAT, UM, ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE SKATE PARK THE OTHER DAY JUST TO GO TAKE A LOOK. AND I TELL YOU WHAT THAT PLACE IS LOOKING FANTASTIC. SO AND OR WHETHER PEOPLE ARE EAGER. I THINK THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE JUMPING A FENCE TO GET A HEAD START BEFORE IT OPENED, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'RE NOT. BUT THE LASTLY I WAS IN NEW YORK CITY THIS PAST WEEKEND, MY WIFE FINALLY GOT TO FULFILL A LIFELONG DREAM, GETTING TO SING AT A CLUB IN NEW YORK AND JUST EXTREMELY PROUD OF HER. SO WITH THAT I HAVE THANK YOU,[00:35:03]
COMMISSIONER DAVID YES, UM I JUST WANTED. TO SPEAK TO THE POINT OF WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MAP. BLUE HAVEN ON HERE. WE'RE SPEAKING OF THE VOLUNTARY UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEACE PARCELS OF PROPERTY. VOLUNTARILY AND ACTION INTO THE CITY IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO. UM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTICIPATING, PAVING, THAT'S A THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER SITUATION. UM, AND SO IT TAKES MORE THAN 50 50% TO. TWO BEFORE A ROAD TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS OF PARTICIPATING PAVING. SO THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND LIKE I SAID, MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING AND TALK TO YOU. EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW THAT WORKS. UM AND IN CRIME STOPPERS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING. UM VERY HAPPY TO. I THINK CRIMESTOPPERS DOES A GREAT JOB. AND VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THEM AND HELPING THEM IN THEIR THEIR QUEST FOR MORE FUNDING. SO I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. THAT'S IT. MORE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS IS GETTING INTO THIS. I'M JUST KIND OF STUDYING AND LEARNING ABOUT, UM OR PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE COME ACROSS, IS THE LAST TIME THE COMMISSION ADDRESSED OR IMPACT FEES WAS IN 2005. AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SHOW IN THE NEXUS BETWEEN CURRENT EVENTS AND THE STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST AN EMOTION THAT WE HAVE STAFF COMPLETE IMPACT FEE RATE STUDY. THE FOLLOWING MATTERS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. E M S FIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES JAIL. UM AFFORDABLE SLASH WORKFORCE. HOUSING LIBRARY PARKS, SOLID WASTE TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER. AND I'M ALL SHARE. Y'ALL ARE CHOCOLATE. THIS ANY OTHER I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED. UM BUT IN IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THOUGH, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE. WHAT WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE FROM I KNOW FROM THE ONE ON ONES I'VE SAT IN WITH THE RATE OF GROWTH THAT WE HAVE WITH WORK COMMUNITY IS GOING THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE BEING COVERED BY THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION AND NEW PEOPLE MOVING IN FROM WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE FACING AS WE REPRESENT THE CITIZENS THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT WE'RE FACING. SO I CAN SAY WITH THAT I'VE MADE A MOTION. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A SECOND AND US TO VOTE ON AUTHORIZING STAFF TO DO THIS STUDY AND AT LEAST GIVE US THE INFORMATION AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. ALL RIGHT. JUST BASICALLY JUST TRYING TO JUST GET AN UPDATE ON AN IMPACT STUDY. 2005 WAS THE LAST TIME WE'VE DONE IT. CORRECT JUST GETTING US INFORMATION, ALRIGHT? NOT VOTING TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN LEARN. GOTCHA. HOW TO TALK ABOUT THE IN DEPTH ON THAT STUDY. UM I'M ALL FOR LEARNING, BUT SOMETIMES, WHEN WE DO A STUDY, IT CAN GO IN VERY INTO DEPTH, AND THEY COME BACK WITH ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION. HE NAMES A NUMBER OF THINGS THERE, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUITE A BIT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, WHICH IS FINE. AND SO AH! THE STUDY. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, EMOTIONS THAT'S BEEN MADE IS TO DO AN IN DEPTH. EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED. SO WE WILL KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF IMPACT PHASE? WHAT PERCENTAGE? ALL THAT WILL BE ENTAILED IN IN THE STUDY. AND SO DID YOU WANT TO? AND IT WOULD JUST LEAVE IT UP TO STAFF FIRMLY PICK AND ALL LIKE THAT, CORRECT . PUT IT OUT TO BED. LOOK AT DETERMINE WHAT'S BEST. BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT, BUT ALLOW THEM. TO BE ABLE TO GO IN LOOK AT THE STUDIES WITH WHAT RECENT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE STATE AS IT RELATES TO IMPACT FEES. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS YOU HAVE CERTAIN PERIODS , TIMEFRAMES WITHIN WHICH THINGS CAN BE ADJUSTED. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO AT LEAST KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S OUT THERE BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE'RE GROWING, WE NEED THE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS GOT. AND THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF WHAT ALL THESE PEOPLE MOVING IN IS GOING TO COST. I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS FROM, YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF OUR JAIL TO OTHER ITEMS . HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? AND I THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOLS ARE OUT THERE. WHAT IS THERE AGAIN? NOT VOTING TO INCREASE OR TO CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT TO GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE TO LOOK AT IT[00:40:04]
AND GO. WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHERE WE GOING? WHAT ARE THE BEST TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES TO THE OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT WAITING UNTIL AFTER IT'S PASSED US BY TO TRY TO CATCH UP TO IT? I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS AND WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP. AND WHEN I RAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID IS STRATEGICALLY. WE NEED TO BE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE AT THE SAME TIME AS WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT OTHER THINGS. AND I THINK THIS IS A PRUDENT THING FOR US TO AT LEAST NO ONE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE THINGS ARE, BECAUSE VARIOUS PARTS OF THESE AS WE ALL KNOW, ARE BEING TAXED PRETTY WELL. RIGHT NOW, WHEN I SAY TAX FROM A RESOURCE STANDPOINT OF USE, AND SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AS THE COMMISSION AND I THINK WE NEED TO STUDY AND BE ABLE TO KNOW AND FOR THE STAFF TO BRING TO US WHAT ARE WE FACING? AND WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? SO DO YOU WANT TO STUDY PROPORTIONATE SHARE OR IMPACT FEES OR BOTH? WHEN I SAY PROPORTIONATE SHARE IS JUST THE IMPACT AS THESE NEW RESIDENTS COME ON, IN THESE DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROPORTIONATE COST, TOO. AND SO TO ME, THAT'S WHAT THE IMPACT FEE ADDRESSES, OKAY? BECAUSE WE HAD PROPORTIONATE SHARE IN THE PAST, AND WE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT WE ADDRESS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE IMPACT FEES IS SOMETHING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE CORRECT IN THAT, YES, I THINK IT'S VOCABULARY. WHEN I HEAR COMMISSIONER MORE SAYING IS, THERE'S A PROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF IMPACT THAT NEW GROWTH CREATES AND HAVING THAT GROWTH PAY ITS FAIR SHARE VERSUS UM PERHAPS PUTTING THAT BURDEN ON THE EXISTING TAXPAYER, RIGHT? ADD UH, FUNDAMENTALLY, HERE'S THE PROBLEM. UM. WITH THE STUDY BEING 18 YEARS OLD. WE THINK FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE OPEN TO A CHALLENGE. THAT STUDY HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. WE HAVE LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO GENERATE , UH, PROOF THAT THERE IS A NEXUS BETWEEN THE FEES THAT WE ARE COLLECTING. AND THE IMPACT THAT IS BEING DEMONSTRATED OR ADDRESSED, AND WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT IN 18 YEARS. SO FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER, UM FEES CHANGE WHETHER NEW FEES ARE ADDED. WE THINK WE'RE EXPOSED FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE AND IF AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND RE EXAMINE THIS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT ELIMINATING THE FEES THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE THINK WE'RE EXPOSED BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT UPDATE. SO FOR NOTHING ELSE. WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOU KNOW DOES THAT NEXUS STILL EXISTS BETWEEN THE GROWTH THAT'S OCCURRING IN THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAVING, LET'S SAY, ON TRANSPORTATION OR ON THE JAIL SYSTEM OR THE LIBRARY OR PARKS, UM, THAT THAT IS THE IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WE NEED TO ADDRESS NOW WHETHER THAT TURNS INTO CHANGES AND ADDITIONAL FEES BEING ADDED , OR THE RATES CHANGING, THAT CAN ALL BE PART OF WHAT LOOKED AT UNDER THE STUDY, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, WE NEED TO EXAMINE WHETHER NEXT ARE STILL EXIST. UM IF IT DOESN'T. THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD. RIGHT? SO YES, WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ON THE STUDY ITSELF. I'LL SECOND IT ON THAT AND TO MOVE FORWARD. AND, UM. YOU'RE LOOKING AT STUDYING. IS A PARTICULAR ITEMS. WE'RE JUST GOING TO ACROSS THE BOARD STUDY ON EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. IS THAT HOW WE'RE DOING THAT? SO ALL OF THE EXISTING FEES WOULD NEED TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY CODIFIED.THERE'S A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONER MORE HAS LISTED, WHICH WOULD BE NEW FEES. UM AND AGAIN, WE WOULD DO AN ANALYSIS ON WHAT THAT IMPACT IS AND WHAT IF HE WOULD BE AND TO HIS POINT YOU'RE NOT APPROVING OR AUTHORIZING ANY NEW FEES TO BE CREATED OR ANY RATES TO BE SET EACH OF THESE IF YOU RECALL BACK AND OH, FIVE OH, SIX. WHEN WE DID THIS, ORIGINALLY, EACH FEE COMES UP FOR CONVERSATION. THE BOARD HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE ONE DID YOU WANT TO COLLECT IT TO? WHAT WERE THE RATE BE? IF YOU REMEMBER THERE WAS A THERE'S ALWAYS A RANGE THE FIGURES ALWAYS ARRANGED IN THE BOARD. YOU KNOW MAKES THE DECISION IS TO YOU KNOW, FROM ZERO TO THE TOP END. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO SET THAT IF YOU WANT TO SET IT, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE HAD DOWNRANGE, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, UM YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE DID IN JAIL PROJECT YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL FUND IS FOOTING THAT $30 MILLION DEBT FOR THE JAIL. THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE ABOUT. DO WE WANT TO HAVE AN IMPACT FOR YOU GOING FORWARD SO THAT THE FUTURE IMPACT ON OUR FACILITY NEEDS OR ARE ADDRESSED BY SOME OTHER SOURCE. ALRIGHT, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. AND WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY COLLECTING AN IMPACT. THE FOR THE JAIL SYSTEM. SO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WOULD COME BACK. YOU'LL BE ASKED TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT. SAY NO. IF YOU DO TELL US WHAT RATE MOVE FORWARD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE WAYS FOR INCOME ALONG WITH THE STUDY DIFFERENT INCOMES SO AS NOT TO RAISE FEES ON THE SERVICES IF
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THERE WASN'T OTHERWISE WE COULD GO ABOUT GATHERING SOME FUNDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR THIS SPECIFIC STUDY WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST IMPACT FEES. SO IF IT'S OUT IF IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THAT ARENA OF IMPACT FEES, THEN THAT WOULD NOT BE SO LIKE PARKS , SO PARKS ARE AN IMPACT THAT YOU CURRENTLY COLLECT. WOULD WE BE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO GET INCOME TO DO MAINTENANCE ON PARKS BEFORE WE JUST RAISED IN OTHER WORDS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT WAYS. FOR OTHER FUNDING BEFORE WE JUST RACE IMPACT FEES ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE COULD GET ALTERNATIVE INCOME ON ONE AND TWO IS THE IMPACT FEES OR THEY JUST ON NEW PROPERTIES. OR IS THAT OR THEY OWN EXISTING PROPERTIES SAY WHERE SOMEBODY'S GOING FROM? SUBJECT TANK, TOO. SEWER WOULD IT WOULD IMPACT PHOEBE ON THEM ALSO, SO THAT'S THAT'S UNDER UTILITIES, AND THAT THAT IS, THAT IS NEW AGAIN. IT'S VOCABULARY THAT'S NO LONGER DEFINED AS AN IMPACT FEE. THAT'S A CONNECTION. YOU KNOW, IT'S SEMANTICS, BUT BUT IN THAT SCENARIO, YES. IF YOU WERE MOVING FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER, YOU WOULD BE EXPECTED TO PAY A CONNECTION FEE TO OFFSET THE COST THAT OTHER OTHER SYSTEM USERS HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S THERE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE, SO EVEN THOUGH WE CHANGED THE NAME OF IT FROM IMPACT FEEDER. CONNECTION RIGHT ? RIGHT THEY WOULD WOULD THIS IF WE DID INCREASE A THAT SPECIFIC THING WITH THAT INCREASE THEIR CONNECTION TO IT COULD IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE FEE ENCOMPASSES. AND WHAT TRIGGERS IT. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO AGAIN, YOU SET THE PARAMETERS FOR THAT. ESSENTIALLY, UM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, TRADITIONALLY, WE HAVE USED A LOT. WE HAVE NOT UTILIZED REVENUE FROM IMPACT FEES TO SUPPORT OPERATING COSTS. IMPACT FEES ARE GENERALLY USED TO OFFSET CAPITAL COST, SO THE PARK NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED AS A RESULT OF GROWTH OR A NEW PARK NEEDS TO BE BUILT BECAUSE OF GROWTH. THE IMPACT FEES COLLECTED FROM THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT YEAH, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SOURCE OF REVENUE. AND THEN IF THERE'S AN OFFSET WE LOOK AT GRANTS. WE LOOK AT GENERAL FLYNN WE LOOK AT, UM AS MANY POSSIBLE SOURCES OF INCOME AS WE COULD, YOU KNOW TO COVER THAT EXPENSE IN THIS STUDY, WOULD WE DO THAT? YES MA'AM. WE WOULD LOOK YES, WE HAVE TO EVALUATE YOUR WHAT? WHAT THE COST IS WHERE THE REVENUE STREAMS ARE AGAIN. THAT'S THAT'S PART OF CREATING THAT THAT NEXUS IF YOU WILL, IS DEMONSTRATING THAT THE GROWTH IS ACTUALLY CAUSING THE IMPACT. AND THEN BACK, STOPPING YOUR LEGAL ABILITY TO IMPOSE THAT IMPACT FEE TO ADDRESS THAT TO ADDRESS THAT IMPACT. AND ONE LAST QUESTION. DO WE HAVE A COST ON WHAT THE STUDY WOULD RUN? NO, NO, MA'AM, WE'D HAVE TO. WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. BUT THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. I GOTTA HERE AS WELL. SO. IS THIS GONNA BE SEVERAL DIFFERENT STUDIES BECAUSE UTILITIES WERE SPECIALIZED PARKS AND ROADS ARE DIFFERENT. I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY USE A FIRM THAT DOES OUR RATE STUDIES. CURRENTLY WE'RE REDUCING OUR UTILITY RATES . BUT YET WHEN THEY DID THAT, I ASSUME THEY DIDN'T CHECK INTO THE IMPACT PHASE BECAUSE, AS YOU SAID, THE IMPACT FEES FOR CAPITAL YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE GROW. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR WASTEWATER PLANT OR WATER TREATMENT PLANT. NOW WE'LL LOOK AT DOING REUSED BECAUSE IN 10 YEARS WE CAN'T PUMP THAT WATER OUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE CAN'T GO IN THE BAY ANYMORE, RIGHT? SO IN THE REALM OF UTILITIES, BECAUSE WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY DOING RATE ANALYSIS, I WOULD NOT IMAGINE THOSE THOSE FEES BEING INCLUDED IN THIS STUDY BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE RATE THEY'RE PART OF THE RIGHT STUDY. SO WE LOOK AT THOSE CONNECTION FEES. UM THROUGH ROUGH TELUS, I BELIEVE IS THE COMPANY WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT WE WOULD PULL THAT OUT AND PUT IT UNDER THIS AGAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT IMPACT FREEZE THEIR CONNECTION FEES. I MEAN AGAIN. I KNOW IT'S VOCABULARY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN CALLED IMPACT FEES FOR SO LONG, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THEM THAT ANYMORE. UM THERE REALLY A FEVER. PART OF CONNECTION ARE STUDYING UTILITIES AS WELL, THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO I MEAN, WE'RE STUDYING UTILITIES ON A SEPARATE TRACK, BUT WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY THAT WE CONTINUOUSLY HAVE BEEN DOING SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD NOT ADD UTILITIES TO THIS STUDY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEING DONE TO PARTS WE'RE LOOKING AT RHODES. WE'RE LOOKING AT FIRE. I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN LOOK AT THIS HERE. HE HAS NOTES HERE THIS SO WHAT WOULD HE BELIEVE? IN PART OF HIS HIS CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS CMS, WHICH WOULD BE NEW FIRE, WHICH IS EXISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE A NEW ONE. CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES WOULD BE NEW, AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING WOULD BE NEW LIBRARIES, EXISTING PARKS AS EXISTING. I BELIEVE SOLID WASTE IS EXISTING TRANSPORTATION IS EXISTING AND THEN STORM THE STORM. WATER ASSESSMENT IS AN EXISTING, UM AND I JUST HAVE A HAVE A STRICT ON THAT ONE. I KNOW IF THAT'S THAT'S A NON OUT OF ALARM ASSESSMENT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT ONE WOULD BE INCLUDED OR NOT. BUT UM, BUT EVEN THOUGH THEIR EXISTING WE WOULD REEVALUATE THOSE, YES, OKAY AND THOSE EXISTING ONES AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHERE OUR EXPOSURE IS.RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REEVALUATED AND SO LONG, UM, THAT I THINK THAT THE DECISION
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IS EITHER EVALUATE THEM OR GIVE US DIRECTION TO GO FORWARD AND START TAKING THE STEPS TO TERMINATE THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO DO A WHITE PAPER ON TO COME BACK TO SEE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO BEFORE WE JUST CARTE BLANCHE. SAY GO STUDY. ALL THIS CERTAINLY COULD BRING A SCOPE THAT WE COULD. WE COULD DRAFT A SCOPE AND BRING A SCOPE BACK TO YOU GUYS AND HAVE MADE THE MOTION SO I DON'T I DON'T WANNA STEP ON HIS TOES. WHATEVER HE'S WANTING.JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING BEFORE. WE JUST GO OUT AND START GETTING STUDY. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. WE DO THAT AT THE SCOPING STAGE, BECAUSE IF NOT THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES BACK IS GOING TO BE DURING CONTRACT AWARD STAGE AND THE SCOPE OF THE SCOPE IS TOTALLY OUT OF BOUNDS AT THAT POINT THAT WE'VE DONE NOTHING BUT WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME, SO I THINK IF THAT'S THE BOARDS DESIRE. WE CAN CRAFT THE SCOPE AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND HAVE THE BOARD APPROVED THE SCOPE BEFORE WE PUT IT INTO A REQUEST FOR QUALITY. GREAT IDEA TO REEVALUATE BECAUSE I MEAN, WE NEED TO. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS GROWTH AND YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH THAT GOES UP NORTH IS GOING TO TRIGGER MORE PARKS, WHICH YOU KNOW, NEEDS LAND. AND SO I'VE GOT NO ISSUE WITH IT WHATSOEVER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT SCHOOL. OF WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO ACHIEVE. WELL IN FROM THAT PART OF BOB WAS ABLE TO ANSWER AND IN SEMANTICS AND USING SOME OF THE WORDS IN THE WRONG WAY WHEN I TALK ABOUT PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LOOKING AT IS IN THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. GOVERNOR DE SANTIS HAS ALWAYS PUT FORWARD THAT HE'S LOOKING AT RAISING DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS FOR THE STATE. TO A HIGHER LEVEL, WHICH IS GOING TO IMPACT. OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BOTH THE JAIL AS WELL AS LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY. AND SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN IN MY TIME HERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE 2.5 BUDGETS THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH, WE'VE TRIED TO BE VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR FUNDS AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, CAN WE LOOK AT THESE IMPACT FEES IN A WAY TO BECAUSE THEIR CAPITAL RELATED THAT WE CAN WE CAN ADDRESS THE JAIL? WE CAN ADDRESS EQUIPMENT WE CAN DRESS EQUIPMENT AT PARKS , CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND BE ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT JUST AT A SMALL LEVEL, WHICH ALLOWS OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND SO OVERALL, WE ARE NOT GOING BACK TO WHAT I'M MY FEAR. AND MY CONCERN IS THIS IS THAT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE FOUND WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO RAISE TAXES ON QUICK JUMP ON EVERYBODY, AND THAT'S GOING TO GET ALL OF OUR FRIENDS BLOWING UP AND I'M SURE I'M GOING TO CAUSE ALL OF OUR FRIENDS TO GET BLOWN UP JUST BY ASKING THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT I STILL THINK THAT IT IS PRUDENT FOR US TO DO THIS NOW. IN THE LOOK AT THESE THINGS E M S HAS NOT BEEN DONE. BUT YOU KNOW IN 2005. WE WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR E. M S WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR M S NOW. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE REALIZE JUST HOW MUCH OF OUR BUDGET IN GENERAL FUND IS COVERED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN THE JAIL. I MEAN, IT IS A HUGE MOVER. AND SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THESE THINGS? AND AS I'M HEARING HOW MUCH OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE GROWING AND WHAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF OUR FACILITIES? WHAT DO WE DO? AND WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE SO FOR ME FROM THE SCOPE STANDPOINT, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH US HAVING A DISCUSSION OF SCOPE RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS I THINK WE NEED THE INFORMATION SO THE FATHER OF US CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE ON EACH OF THESE STEPS THAT WE EACH KNOW AND WE CAN ASSESS WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE PROVIDE THE VALUE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE BEST REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY. IS BY LOOKING AT THESE THINGS AND MAKING A DETERMINATION OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING. WE ALL SEE IT BY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. WE ALL HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT ARE ON THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE STAFF THE ABILITY TO START LOOKING AT HOW THIS SAUSAGE COULD BE MADE FOR US TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING OR NOT, BUT TO GO BACK TO WHAT BOB SAID. WHEN I FIRST SAT DOWN WITH HIM, AND HE SAID THAT NEXUS IN THE LEGAL CHALLENGE AND WHERE WE ARE THAT WE COULD LOSE THE RIGHT TO EVEN DO THAT. I MEAN THAT MINIMUM. THE ONES THAT EXIST NEED TO GO, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US TO LOOK AT THESE OTHER ONES AS WELL. FOR THE SIMPLE STANDPOINT OF OUR COUNTY HAS BEEN FOUND WERE GROWING. I'VE HEARD THAT I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY ANECDOTALLY THAT BY 2040, WE'RE GOING TO BE A QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALMOST 70,000 MORE THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS THE COMMISSION. JUST CAST A VISION TO LEAD AND TO LOOK AND TO SEE AND TRY TO SET A COURSE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO KNEE JERK LATER AND REALLY PILE ON. AND HIT EVERYBODY IN IN A VERY UNWIELDY WAY OF RAISING EVERYBODY'S TAXES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING PRUDENT, BUT PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE ANY OF THESE THINGS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. MR CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD ADD JUST SO LIKE THE JAIL IS COUNTYWIDE E M S COUNTYWIDE. ARE WE ALSO AS PART OF THIS AND
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AGAIN? THIS JUST CAME OUT TODAY, SO IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO PUT MY ARMS AROUND IT UNTIL I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I ASK. CAN WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR STARTING ENGINEER? YES. BUT SINCE THOSE ARE COUNTYWIDE SERVICES, ARE WE GOING TO EVALUATE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S GROWTH AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES OCCURRING THAT THEY WOULD ALSO CONTRIBUTE OR CHARGE FOR THOSE BECAUSE IT'S A COUNTYWIDE SERVICE, YOU KNOW? SO IF YOU'VE GOT 10,000 UNITS COMING, LYNN HAVEN 20,000 PANELISTS. I MEAN, I'M THROWING NUMBERS OUT. WE COULD ASK, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOLUNTARY. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANDATE BUT I WILL SAY AND E. M S IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. WE PAY FOR M S OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO ALL OF THE TAX THE PROPERTY TAXPAYERS IN BAY COUNTY. UM SUPPORT THE OPERATING MAINTENANCE AND PERSONNEL AND CAPITAL CULTURE. SO IF WE HAD A MECHANISM TO DEFER CAPITAL COST , UM THERE WOULD BE LESS OF A LESS OF A DRAW ON THE GENERAL FUND. IF YOU WILL. YOU COULD ARGUE THAT SHARED EXPONENTIALLY ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM ABOUT BY THE TAXPAYERS IN THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE PURELY A IT WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, US GOING TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AND ASKING, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU ALSO COLLECT THIS FEE TO WE DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO OKAY. THAT'S JUST ONE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF ANYBODY QUESTIONS WHETHER WE FOLLOW SUNSHINE OR NOT, I THINK THIS IS PROOF THAT WE DO. UM BUT FROM THAT, UM, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SCOPE AND NEARING, SO I'VE JUST MADE THE MOTION TO LOOK AT THAT. IS THERE A WAY I AM OPEN TO WORK WITH THE FOUR OF YOU FOR US TO COME TOGETHER ON AN AGREEMENT OF HOW TO SET THIS UP BECAUSE THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE, IS NOT TO GET THIS BOGGED DOWN SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO IT. SO IS THERE A CERTAIN WAY AS REGARDS SCOPE THAT YOU ALL WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS TOGETHER FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT STAFF CAN KIND OF GET MOVING WITH THIS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO US FOR FURTHER APPROVALS OR ANYTHING. IS THERE ANY I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE SCOPE PRIOR TO GETTING A CONTRACT FRONT OF ME KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEWHERE APPROVING SOMEONE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS GROUP IS RIGHT. SO PROCESS WAS STAFF WOULD PREPARE A SCOPE. PROVIDE THAT TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, ALLOW YOU TO PROVIDE US INPUT. MAKE YOU KNOW WHATEVER. EDITS CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE, AND THEN WE COULD BRING THAT DOCUMENT BACK FORMALLY IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR CONVERSATION AND FILE DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT THE FINAL DRAFT TO BE. THAT'S THE WAY THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, GIVE US MAYBE TO THE FIRST PART OF APRIL JUST TO GET THAT JUST I MEAN AGAIN. WE I THINK COMING UP WITH A DRAFT SCOPE WILL BE PRETTY QUICK. THERE'S THIS. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW THE FIRST ONES TO TAKE A BITE AT THE APPLE, BUT I THINK TO GIVE YOU ALL SUFFICIENT TIME INDIVIDUALLY TO REVIEW THE DRAFT AND ASK QUESTIONS AND GIVE STAFF YOUR INPUT SO WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES AND THEN WE CAN BRING UP. KIND OF AS CLOSE TO A FINAL DRAFT BACK TO A PUBLIC MEETING. UM AND, UH AND YOU GUYS CAN GIVE US THE FINAL FINAL DIRECTION. DIGGING INTO THIS FOR A YEAR. Y'ALL HAVEN'T I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. BECAUSE THEN WE ALL SEE IT. YOU SEE IT? YOU KNOW NOW THAT HE'S PUSHED THIS TO YOU THAT YOU KNOW NOW. THE ITEMS THAT YOU SAID THAT MAY OR NOT BE LISTED. WE WILL DISCOVER HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS ITEM OR THAT I DON'T SO THAT I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU KNOW EXISTING AND WHAT THE EXISTING SITS AT NOW AND THEN NEW PROPOSED OR NEW NEW THINGS THAT ARE NOT EXISTING THAT WE WOULD BE STUDYING AND SEEING HOW IT HOW IT WOULD COME BACK AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT US.SO I THINK ON THE FRONT END GIVING YOU THE LIST OF WHAT'S EXISTING AND WHAT'S PROPOSED.
REALLY SIMPLE. UH WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE IMPACT OF THAT UNTIL THE UNTIL THE STORY BUT THAT WOULD BE ON THE BACKSIDE. SURE WE CAN. WE CAN WE CAN COME UP WITH A LIST OF EXISTING VERSES. THANK YOU. YEAH KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH ROBERT. LET'S GET A WHITE PAPER ON THIS FIRST AND LET IT SINK IN. AND THAT SHOES YOU WITH MY QUESTIONS COME IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BY, UM SO, UM, BUT . YEAH I KIND OF AGREE. THAT'S KIND OF KIND OF APPROACH. BUT TO YOUR POINT, THOUGH, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING COMING FROM, AND YES, WE DO. WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH AND I'M LIKE YOU. I DON'T I DON'T WANT WE DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT WITH OUR PANTS DOWN LIKE YOU KNOW, JUST SO TO SPEAK THAT LATER ON OH, MY GOD. NOW WHAT DO WE DO SO THIS WOULD BE JUST SOME GOOD LEARNING GOOD LEARNING MECHANISM. EDUCATION IF YOU WILL OKAY WITH THAT ARE MODIFIED TO SAY A WHITE PAPER TO BE PRESENTED AT OUR FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. THAT WITH THE WITH THE DRAFT SCOPE WITH THE DRAFT SCOPE TO BE PRESENTED TO US FOR THAT THAT COMMISSION MEETING SECOND OKAY? PROMOTION IN A SECOND. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN. HAM? YES MA'AM. YOU'RE NOT GONNA ASK ME FOR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ANYMORE. SO MAYBE NEXT TIME I HAVE YOU GO FIRST INSTEAD OF LAST DIDN'T.
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BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT IF IT WEREN'T FOR SUNSHINE MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT. UM, I'LL MAKE MINE REAL QUICK. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE LEADERSHIP BAG FOR BRINGING IN THE STUDENTS THIS MORNING.IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THE NEXT GENERATION MORNING TO TRY TO GET INVOLVED AND LEARNING LOCAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT'SL GOVERNMENT. UM WHEN IT COMES TO THAT WERE THE CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE. SO WE KNOW WHAT? UH UM, WE HEAR MORE OFTEN THAN, SAY, THE FOLKS THE FATHERS TO WAIT.
UM I LIKE TO JUST BRING HIGHLIGHT TO THE, UM NEW HELICOPTERS THAT WERE BRINGING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UM . THE AND IT'S JUST IN TIME. SPRING BREAKS RIGHT HERE. I'M SURE THEY WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY A MAYBE I'M SURE THEY'LL HAVE A USE FOR IT. BUT MAYBE IT WILL BE IN GOOD WAYS INSTEAD OF BAD WAYS. AND UH, SPEAKING OF SPRING BREAK, UM THE RED FLAGS THERE OUT THERE FOR A PURPOSE, UM, ALL UP US THAT'S BEEN BORN AND RAISED HERE. WE UNDERSTAND THE GOLF WE UNDERSTAND THE DANGERS OF THE GULF. WE KNOW THE BEAUTY OF THE GULF, BUT IT CAN BE A AND WILL PROVE TO BE A DANGEROUS UM , DANGEROUS BODY OF WATER. SO PLEASE, PLEASE ADHERE TO THE RED FLAGS. UM WHEN THEY'RE FLYING AS ENJOY YOUR STATEMENT AND ENJOY YOUR STAY ON THE SAND. UM, WHEN WITH THAT
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