Apr 18, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

[A.  CALL TO ORDER]

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WELL. LIKE TO CALL THIS, UH, SPECIAL MEETING? I'M NOT EXCUSING REGULAR SING OF THE CON . APRIL 18TH 2023 AT THE TIME. THERE'S NINE O'CLOCK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAN. COMMISSIONER

[B.  ROLL CALL ]

[C.  INVOCATION]

JONATHAN DIGGINS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAY AROUND. LET'S PRAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING. AND THE HEAVENS ARE STILL DECLARING YOUR GLORY. AND FATHER. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO LIVE IN. SUCH A COUNTY, WHERE. THEY DECLARE YOUR GLORY VERY LOUDLY. THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT WE GET TO CALL HOME. AND BY THE WAY, PRAY THAT YOU WOULD. CONTINUE TO POUR OUT YOUR FAVOR ON OUR COUNTY. GOD WE ASK THAT YOUR HAND WOULD BE VERY EVIDENT. AMONG US. GOD WE THANK YOU FOR THE GRACE THAT YOU'VE POURED OUT ON US. IN THE RECOVERY FROM HURRICANE MICHAEL. THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US STRENGTH.

YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US WISDOM. YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US RESOURCES. DEAR GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. MOST OF ALL WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED US WITH IN THE LORD JESUS. AND FATHER TODAY WE PRAY FOR THIS COMMISSION. WE THANK YOU FOR THEM. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THEM WISDOM. GIVE THEM PEACE. GIVE THEM DIRECTION. AND FATHER. WE PRAY THAT THROUGH THEM, YOU WOULD BLESS THE CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY, AND WE PRAY IT ALL IN JESUS' NAME.

[D.  PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

[F.  ADDITION OF EMERGENCY ITEMS/DELETIONS]

[E.  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]

COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN. HAM? YES, MA'AM. WE

[H.  PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED ONLY TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA)]

[I.  APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

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10 NORTH BAY WASTEWATER FACILITIES, SEQUENCING BATCH REACTOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS . THE BOARD AWARD THE DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT TO DEWBERRY ENGINEERS INC AND THE AMOUNT OF $499,152 HURRICANE SALLY H. M G P PROJECT NUMBER 4564-022. DASH R'S NORTH BAY WASTEWATER FACILITY SEQUENCING BATCH REACTOR. AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CONTRACT AND ALL SUBSEQUENT CONTRACTUAL MODIFICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTRACT AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ITEM 11 MILITARY POINT ADVANCED WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY WATER REUSE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD APPROVED FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGREEMENT L. PA 0254 AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT AND A SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENTS OR MODIFICATIONS. NECESSARY AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO IMPROVE MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER DOZER, COMMISSIONER . PEACE COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN HAM? YES, MA'AM.

[12.  Latitude at Watersound Area 1 Phase 5C Plat Approval]

THEREFORE I'M GOING TO RECUSE. I'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT. BUT SINCE WE'RE DOING WORK WITH THE APPLICANT GOING TO RECUSE YOU, OKAY, MR. CAROL'S GONNA SIT THIS ONE OUT. UM GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. YOU LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN KEITH. BUT GO RIGHT AHEAD AND TALL. YEAH.

SO MR BRYAN KEHL, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF L M. WS IS REQUESTING FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR LATITUDE WATER. SOUND AREA WINE. PHASE FIVE B. THE SUBDIVISION HAS 244 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 1.41 MILES OF PRIVATE ROADWAY. THE DRAINAGE. ACCESS EASEMENT OPEN SPACE LANDSCAPE AREA ARE ALL TO REMAIN PRIVATE. NONEXCLUSIVE EASEMENTS FOR ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE OF WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES ARE DEDICATED TO A COUNTY. UM THE DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED. ON FEBRUARY 13 2013 23. AT THE SUBDIVISION PLAN IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF CHAPTER 17. UM 177.7 AND FLORA STATES IN BAY COUNTY REGULATION. THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A MAINTENANCE PERFORMANCE BOND FOR THE ROADWAY, DRAINAGE, WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE REQUEST THE BOARD APPROVED THE FINAL PLAT OF LATITUDE WATER SOUND AREA ONE PHASE FIVE Z.

OKAY? A QUESTION, TOO. COMMENTS CONCERNS. MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE FOLLOW THE ROLE. COMMISSIONER DOZER YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEACE COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN HAM. YES MA'AM COMMISSIONER KAREL STAINS. ALRIGHT. NEXT. WE MOVE INTO

[13.  PZ23-058 Zone Change -1844 N. East Avenue]

THIS IS A QUASAR JUDICIAL. SO IF YOU PLAN TO SPEAK TO THE SIDE, AND WILL YOU PLEASE STANDS OR COUNTY ATTORNEY CAN SWEAR YOU IN YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE

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WE'RE CURRENTLY C TWO C TWO FRONT BEBB FRONT SETBACK IS 20 FT. AND ANY BUFFERING REQUIRED BETWEEN THE C TWO AND ARTICLE, UM, ABOUT FATHER. THEY ARE FOUR ZONING DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH. AH YEAH, ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE BUFFERING. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. THANKS, JIM.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY? HEART. WAS ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? GOOD MORNING. I'M READY, GREER MY ADDRESS IS 29 10 CARRY FOREST PARKWAY, TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA AND I AM THE APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVE. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP THAT THE USE WAS THE BILL.

THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE. THE USE WAS A DAYCARE. THE PROPERTY IS BEING CURRENTLY SOLD, AND THE NEW USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS FOR CONSTRUCTION OFFICE. UH CONSTRUCTION OFFICERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AND SEE TO THEIR ONLY ALLOWED IN C THREE. SO WHAT WE DO PLAN TO DO IS KEEP THE EXISTING BUILDING AND USE IT AS A CONSTRUCTION OFFICE. AND THEN THEY ARE FOR THIS TO THE SOUTH OF YOU ZOOM OUT A LITTLE MORE. THAT'S ACTUALLY MOBILE HOME FOR LEAST MOBILE HOME PARK, PART OF THAT PROPERTY. IT IS C TWO ALSO HAS A COMMERCIAL ZONING. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS, MA'AM. HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IT WILL BE PLAYED FOR SPANISH. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? OKAY, SO YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR. I HAVE STAFF COME BACK UP, WOULD YOU PLEASE? COME BACK UP. SO THE USE THAT IS BEEN HISTORICAL ON THAT PROPERTY. TO SEE TO PLAZA COMMERCIAL. WAS THAT PROPERLY ZONED WHEN IT WHEN WE WERE BACK IN 2004 WHEN WE WENT THROUGH AND DID THE ZONING WAS THAT ZONE PROPERTY FOR THE USE? THAT'S THERE NOW THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICAL THERE. YES. SO THAT THAT'S THE PROPER USE FOR THAT ACTIVITY. OKAY? I BELIEVE THIS WAS ALL FORMERLY PART OF CEDAR GROVE. YEAH SO WE WHEN WE WHEN CEDAR GROVE DISSOLVED, UM OF

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[14.  PZ 23-033 & PZ 23-085 West Bay Crossings DSAP & Zone Change - Highway 79 & Philip Griffitts, Sr. Parkway]

DECEMBER AND ZOON CHANGE HOW WE 79 PHILLIP GRIFFITHS SENIOR PARKWAY. MR CHAIRMAN. THIS IS THE SAME AS ITEM. 12 IS THE SAME APPLICANT. THEREFORE WE'RE DOING WORK AND WE'RE GOING TO RECUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, OKAY? ALRIGHT. THIS IS A CRAZY JUDICIAL. SO IF YOU WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM WHEN YOU PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN IN BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHERE ARE FIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME THE TRUTH? THE WHOLE TRUTH? NOTHING BUT TRUE. THANK YOU. IN THE EXPORT DISCLOSURES ON THIS ITEM. FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANTS, REPRESENTATIVE. I'VE SEEN PROPERTY SPOKEN TO NO. ONE.

I HAVE KNOWN THING. THE PROPERTY. Q. GO AHEAD, SIR. I'M A ON MAY 5TH 2015. THE BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HELD A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE BAY WALTON SECTOR PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR STATUTES. THE BAY WALTON SECTOR PLAN CONSISTS OF A LONG TERM MASTER PLAN THAT AMENDED THE BAY COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND A SERIES OF CORRESPONDING TEXT POLICIES ADOPTED AS A NEW CHAPTER 12 IN THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND, ACCORDING TO FOUR STATUTES TO BE ONE SECTOR PLAN SHALL BE DEVELOPED THROUGH ONE OR MORE DETAILED, SPECIFIC AREA PLANS OR DECEPTIVE. EACH DECEPTION BE A MINIMUM OF 1000 ACRES AND MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG TERM MASTER PLAN IN CHAPTER 12 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UH ON MARCH, 21ST 2023. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST. AND RECEIVE CONSIDER ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED DEFINES PROPOSED. LISA AND ASSOCIATED ZONE CHANGE. CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THIS WEST BAY CROSSING. THE CEP ENCOMPASSES APPROXIMATELY 2017 ACRES. THE STAFF IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST AND NORTHWEST CORNER OF HOWIE 79 PHILLIP GRIFFITHS SENIOR PARKWAY. IN ASSOCIATION WITH LONG TERM MASTER PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROPOSED ZONING CATEGORIES OR TOWN CENTER LOW INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN WEST BAY PRESERVATION. THE SAD PROPOSES CHANGED 347 ACRES TO TOWN CENTER. 364 ACRES TO LOW IMPACT RESIDENTIAL AND 1360 ACRES TO WEST BAY PRESERVATION. IN SEPTEMBER, 2015. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVED THE ZONING CATEGORIES AND THE CHAPTER 16, WHICH IS THE BAY WATER SECTOR PLAN ZONES OF THE BAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. STAFF AGREES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING. AND APPROVED THE CEP AND ASSOCIATED ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. HERE BACK TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MR GREER. RARE MY ADDRESS IS 29 10 CARRY FOREST PARKWAY. JEALOUSY FLORIDA AND I AM THE AFRICANS REPRESENTATIVE.

WE COULD. I'M GONNA DO A QUICK POWER POINT. THE SECTOR PLAN HAS, YOU KNOW IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT EXISTS AND IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY BECAUSE OCCUPIES A GREAT DEAL OF IT HAS A 50 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON. AND AS WE GO THROUGH THESE D SAPS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HAPPENS AND I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE SECTOR PLAN PROCESSES IS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. AND THEY'RE NOT SURE ABOUT IT. NOW WE SEE COMMENTS THAT COME IN. WHEN WE DO THESE D SAPS FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND IT. AND I'D LIKE TO GO BACK AND YOU KNOW WAYNE AND MENTIONED HOW THE BAY WALTON SECTOR PLANNED FOR HIM, BUT ALSO GO BACK. THE WEST BAY SECTOR PLAN. STARTED IN 2002 THERE WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION 21 YEARS AGO. AND THAT IS OCCUPIED 75,000 ACRES, WHICH IS THE COLORED PORTION OF THE WEST. PART OF YOUR MAP THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. AND THEN 2015 IS WAYNE MENTIONED. WE MODIFIED THE BAY COUNTY SECTOR PLAN. THE WEST BAY SECTOR PLAN BECAME THE BAI WONG. WE ADDED IN 35,000 MORE ACRES, WHICH INCLUDED 13,000 ACRES IN WALTON COUNTY AND THEIR REMAINING WEST PORTION IN BAY COUNTY. AND SO BY DOING THIS, IT CREATED A WHOLE NEW SECTOR PLAN MAP MASTER PLAN MAP THAT WAS ADOPTED. AND THIS MAP AND ALL THE INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE BAY WALTON SECTOR PLAN CAN BE FOUND AT COURAGE. ANYBODY TO GO TO IT? IT'S THE BAY WALTON SECTOR PLAN

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AND IN DOING THE SECTOR PLAN PROCESS ITSELF. WHAT IT COMBINED WITH THE TOTAL BETWEEN BAY AND WALTON. OF THE ENTITLEMENT, SO THIS ENTITLEMENT IS GOING THROUGH THE SECTOR PLAN PROCESS ENTITLES ALL THE PROPERTY WITHIN 110,000 ACRES AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR THE WHOLE 110,000 BOTH COUNTIES. IT'S ENTITLED FOR 170,000 UNITS AND ROUGHLY 22 MILLION SQUARE FEET, COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL. AND IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD. WHAT DID THE THINGS THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT? I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND ALSO IS THE MOUNT OF THE SECTOR PLAN.

110,000 ACRES. ALMOST 50% OF IT CURRENTLY IS AND PRESERVATION. CONSERVATION OR AN AGRICULTURE THAT YOU KNOW IT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT'S ALMOST HALF OF THE ENTIRE SECTOR PLAN, AND THAT IS CONTINUALLY TO GROW. AS WE DO EACH DECELL. WE DEFINE THE WETLANDS BETTER AND WE'RE COMING BACK. ACTUALLY YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF MONTHS, WITH A NEW AMENDMENT CHANGING MORE PROPERTY TO CONSERVATION THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE SEVERAL DECEPTIVE THAT HAVE BEEN DONE. THE SIX HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DONE. AND THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THERE'S WAYNE MENTIONED IN THE MOVE FORWARD INSIDE A DECENT SECTOR PLAN. DID YOU HAVE TO DO A DIESEL? SO THE DESKTOP IS A MINIMUM OF 1000 ACRES AND WHAT WE DO DURING THIS PROCESS, AS WE SUBMIT THE D SAP WE PLANNED WHEN WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNTY, BUT THE SAME TIME IT GOES TO THE STATE. SO AS THE COUNTY'S REVIEWING THE STATES ALSO REVIEWING IT, AND WHAT THEY'RE REVIEWING IT FOR IS TO SEE IF IT'S CONSISTENT WHICH, AFTER 1 63 30 TO 45. AND IS A CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHAPTER 12 THAT WENT UNMENTIONED THAT'S ADOPTED IN THE PLANT. THEY HAVE CONDUCTED THE REVIEW. THEY CONDUCTED A COUPLE OF SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND SEND US BACK A LETTER SAYING THAT THEY AGREE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE COUNTY IS CONDUCTED. THEIR REVIEW AND SAID, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE AND WITH THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS BRING THE D SAPS TO YOU. SO THE FBI APPROVED BY THE BAY COUNTY COMMISSION. AND IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION. AND WE'VE DONE SIX SO FAR. THIS IS OUR SEVENTH ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THE SEVENTH ONE IS VERY IMPORTANT AS YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL SECTOR PLAN MAP, YOU SEE A LOT OF GREEN, WHICH IS THE CONSERVATION PRESERVATION AREAS, YOU SEE YELLOW, WHICH IS THE VILLAGE CENTER AREAS. THE KIND OF LIGHT ORANGES COLOR THAT'S OCCURS UP AROUND THERE IN COASTAL WEST BAY. UH, SENATOR LAND USE BUSINESS CENTER, AND THEN YOU SEE THE DARK MAROON KIND OF SHOWS UP A BROWN AREAS SELECTED THROUGHOUT THE SECTOR PLAN, AND THAT IS THE TOWN CENTERS. AND WHY THE TOWN CENTERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IS THE TOWN CENTERS ARE THE MOST INTENSIVE HUB OF THE COMMERCIAL, SO THIS MASTER PLAN IS DEFINED TO WORK TOGETHER AS IT'S DEVELOPED OUT OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS. THESE AREAS WILL SERVE RESIDENTIAL LIVE WORK SPACES INSIDE THIS VILLAGE CENTER AREA, BUT ALSO BE CENTERED AROUND WORK AREAS, TOO, SUCH AS THE AIRPORT. THERE'S AREAS AROUND THERE THAT CONTAINS LARGE PORTIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND IT'S SCATTERED THROUGHOUT AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE AREAS LIKE THE TOWN CENTER, WHICH WILL SERVE AS THE HUBS. BEFORE THE AREAS INSIDE THE SECTOR PLAN. AND SO THE WEST BAY CROSSINGS AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S 2017 ACRES. IT IS HUG OUT OF TOWN CENTER OF 350 ACRES. AND 64% OF IT IS ACTUALLY IN PRESERVATION. AND SO THIS AREA AS WE BEGIN TO MASTER PLAN IT THE TOWN CENTER IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS THE TOWN CENTER THAT WILL SERVE THE WORD CREEK SAPOLU. IT'S LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF IT ALSO SERVED THE LIKE, PAL, THE SAP AND THE WEST LEAR DISAPPEARS LOCATED TO THE WEST OF IT. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO IT THIS IS THE PROPERTY OF THIS LOCATED DIRECTLY ABOVE PHILIP CHRIS SENIOR PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY 79.

SO THE AREA DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF IT. IS WHERE THE NEW HOSPITAL IS GOING. AND THE NEW HOSPITAL. IS BEING BUILT, SPEAKING, ENGINEERED RIGHT NOW IS GOING UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THIS AREA TO THE NORTH WILL ALSO SERVE AS MEDICAL OFFICE, RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL FOR THAT AREA, SO NOT ONLY WILL IT SERVE BEING IMPORTANT AREA FOR THE SECTOR PLAN, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT AREA FOR THE WHOLE WESTERN PORTION OF THE BAY COUNTY. SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TOWN CENTER. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL ON IT AS YOU SEE THE YELLOW THAT'S LOCATED TO THE TO THE EAST OF THIS THIS AREA IS LOW PACK A LOWER IMPACT RESIDENTIAL. WE DO PLAN SOME RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA AND ALSO SOME HIGHER APARTMENT TYPE RESIDENTIAL IN THE TOWN CENTER. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR GREER? NO. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? OKAY. SEE YOU. NONE WILL CLOSE THE FORWARD. TURN OVER TO THE BOARD.

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[15.  PZ 23-012 Bay Point DRI & Large Scale Amendment - 4701 Bay Point Road]

UNLESS PLANNED AS PART OF A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE OR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AREA. LOCATED IN AREAS THAT ARE PRIMARILY USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. AND THIS AREA MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD AND DEALT WITH LANE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR ROADS SERVING THE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF A POINT. THAT WOULD BE AND MAGNOLIA BEACH. THE LOCATION OF THE PRUNES GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF THE D R I A D A THE AMOUNT OF NONRESIDENT LAND USE IS LIMITED TO LESS THAN SIX ACRES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE DUE TO THIS PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE THE LONGTIME RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE AREA AND THE

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ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OR THE BAY COUNTY OR THE BAY POINT D R I A.

D A STEP DISAGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDATION. AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTE NOT TO TRANSMIT THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. TO THE D E O FOR ANALYSIS AND RESPONSE. ONE OTHER TOPIC THAT OFTEN COME UP ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE RED PORTION. YOU SEE THERE AT THE TOP OF THE MAP. IS THAT THE APPLICANTS ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AIRPORT OR PRIVATE AIRSTRIP. OF COURSE, THIS AREA FALLS WITHIN OUR. COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. MILITARY INFLUENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT WAYNE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN. PULL UP THAT WEBSITE. I HAVE BUT IT'S JUST BASICALLY AN EXERT OF OUR EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

GOING? YEAH. SO IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT NOW, IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP JUST A BIT THE OTHER WAY. OTHER WAY. SORRY. POLICY. 3.4 POINT NINE ESTABLISHED THE NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY. PANAMA CITY MILITARY OVERLAY DISTRICT UM. SHALL BE ESTABLISHED TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTINUALLY CHANGING MISSIONS OF THE LOCAL MILITARY INSTALLATION ARE FACILITATED WITH THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. WANT TO SCROLL DOWN? UM IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY'S LONG RANGE LAND USE PLANS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE OPERATIONS OF ITS MILITARY INSTALLATIONS.

COUNTY SHALL CREATE AN EX OFFICIO NONVOTING MEMBER ON ITS LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY, JOHN SKAGGS SERVICES THAT FOR US THE COUNTY SHALL NOTIFY THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF ANY PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS. REZONING VARIANCES CONDITIONAL USES, UM INSIDE THESE AREAS. WHICH ARE PROPOSED OR AFFECT ANY AREA FOUND TO BE INSIDE THIS AREA. WE'VE DONE THAT. IS THAT THE MILITARY IN THE COUNTY SHALL CONSIDER THEIR INPUT AND CONCERN. DURING ITS REVIEW OF SUCH PLANNING, REGULATORY AND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS. UM BELIEVE YESTERDAY , COUNTY RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM THE NAVY BASE. FROM THEIR COMMANDING OFFICER, SPECIFICALLY STATING THEIR OBJECTIONS AND CONCERNS WITH THIS PROPOSAL. UM SO THAT SECTION RIGHT THERE FOR STAFF MEANS THAT ANY PROPOSED AIRPORT OR AIRSTRIP? IS COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE AND INCONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I'M HAPPY TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I KNOW. IT'S A KIND OF A CONVOLUTED MESS WITH DIFFERENT MAPS AND DRIES AND THINGS THAT ARE INTERCOM PLAN. PROPOSING CHANGES, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER. QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I'M PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE PRESENTATION, IF THAT'S OKAY, SURE. OKAY. I DO KNOW THAT REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE NAVY BASE ARE ALSO HERE TO HELP SPEAK OKAY? MR. THIS IS A PUBLIC, UM.

PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THE APPLICANT PRESENT NOW SURE. UM. I WAS NOT HERE IF YOU DID A MAST SWEARING IN EARLIER, SO I PROMISE TO TELL THE TRUTH. OKAY WELL, THIS IS WHERE I WILL NOT QUITE AS ARE SO WE'RE JUST PUBLIC. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING. UM I ASSUME THAT SINCE WE'RE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING TODAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THE ZONING CHANGES, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE CONSISTENT OR A PART OF THE APPLICATION, MR CHAIRMAN. I WILL IS. WE'RE NOT HAVING THE ZONING CHANGE PART OF THIS AT THE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. WE DID BOTH HEARINGS. 1 61 5, PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

UM SO ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN I'M JUST GOING TO DISCUSS THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO FOCUS ON THE LAND USE CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANYWAY, AND I'LL DISCUSS THAT. AND THE COMMENTS THAT MR CROWLEY MADE A MOMENT AGO. UM AGAIN. MIKE BURKE , 1 61 5 PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT BP LINKS. YOU MAY ALSO HAVE YOUR REFER TO THE AFRICAN AS MR WARREN FROM TIME TO TIME. ONE IN THE SAME TIME ALSO A RESIDENT OF BAY POINT AND I'M HERE TODAY. ALONG WITH BONNIE BLUE, WHO IS AN AI CP PLANNER AND EMPLOYED BY A LAW FIRM BURKE AND BLUE. YOU MIGHT CATCH THE LAST NAME THERE. SHE IS NOT A LAWYER, BUT SHE HAS A PLAN OR EMPLOYED BY US. UM DOESN'T MATTER WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MARCH 21ST 2023. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID INDEED YOU MENACE WHAT UNANIMOUSLY VOTE TO APPROVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE JOURNEY ZONING CHANGE. SUBJECTS OF SEVERAL EDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE LETTER THAT MR WARREN HAD SENT TO THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF THE B P. C. A. REGARDING COMMITMENTS AND PROMISES THAT HE HAD MADE VERBALLY TO THE COMMUNITY AT SEVERAL MEETINGS AND TO FOLKS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY . I E MAILED THOSE SOME CHANGES TO ALL OF YOU LAST NIGHT, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM HAVE HARD

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A BOARD SUBMITTED THE PLAN TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED NEW AMENITY AREAS THAT WOULD BE OWNED BY RESIDENTS. THE RESIDENTS OF BAY POINT UNFORTUNATELY REJECTED THAT PROPOSAL. I SUSPECT IT WAS LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHANGES IN THE PLAN THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE B P. C. A. MR WARREN BECAME CONCERNED THAT SINCE THE UH THEY POINT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OR THE COMMUNITY HAD REJECTED THAT PROPOSAL. THAT THIS GOLF COURSE OR THE GOLF COURSES WOULD BE SOLD TO AN OUTSIDE DEVELOPER WHOSE BEST INTERESTS WOULD NOT BE THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY OR OUR COMMUNITY. HE STEPPED IN. TO THE NEGOTIATIONS AND PURCHASED THE GOLF COURSES ON APRIL 1ST 2021. THERE'S BEEN SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT HE GOT IT FOR A DIFFERENT DEAL THAN WHAT BAY POINT GOT. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. IN EFFECT, WE SIMPLY STRUCK OUT BPC A AND PUT IN BP LINKS AND PURCHASED THE GOLF COURSE UNDER THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND THE SAME CONTRACT PRICE AS THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY HAD THAT OFFERED. MR WARREN IMMEDIATELY BEGAN TO CLEAN UP WITH THE MEADOWS COURSES REQUESTED BY THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN MANY SUGGESTIONS REGARDING CLEANING UP BECAUSE THE PRIOR OWNERS HAD JUST LET IT GROW WEEDS AND HAD DEAD TREES AND WHATNOT ALL OVER THE ALL OVER THE COURSE THAT WE'RE CREATING A HAZARD AND THEN SLIGHTLY, UM, CONDITION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MR WARREN GOT OUT PURCHASED EQUIPMENT AND HAS BEEN MAINTAINING AND CLEARING THE COURSE OF TREES AND OTHER DEBRIS SINCE HE PURCHASED IT IN APRIL, 2021. HE ALSO CREATED A FACEBOOK PAGE TO KEEP PRESENT RESIDENTS INFORMED AND ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MEADOWS COURSE. HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THE MEADOWS COURSE WOULD NOT BE A GOLF COURSE NEVER AGAIN, MOSTLY BECAUSE THE ECONOMICS OF OUR AREA JUST DO NOT SUPPORT TO GOLF COURSES. MR WARREN HAS DONE THE BEST HE CAN TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY INFORMED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE MEADOWS COURSE AND HIS INTENTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT HE POSTED ON FACEBOOK ATTENDED MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS. THE ANNUAL MEETING OF THE OWNERS OF THE OF THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD RIGHT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THAT IS WHERE THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. CAME FROM.

ADDITIONALLY HE SPOKE TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE THAT WOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT. HIS FIRST CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH CAME OUT IN JUNE OF 21. REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MATTERS

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REVIEWED THE BAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DETERMINED THAT SOME MODIFICATION OR SOME FORM OF C FOUR WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. HMM IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW THAT LIMIT ALL OF THOSE USES UNDER THE CAMP PLAN, WE'VE ALSO ADDED USES THAT WE THINK SHOULD SATISFY THE CONCERNS OF THE NAVY BASE OR RESTRICTIONS. AND THAT IS FINALLY THAT IF AND WHEN. MR WARREN DECIDES TO MAKE AN APPLICATION TO F D. O T FOR PRIVATE AIRSTRIP. HE WILL SUBMIT CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WITH THAT APPLICATION THE SAME THING TO THE NAVY BASE AND TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE FOR THEIR REVIEW. IF EITHER ONE OF THOSE INSTALLATIONS REVIEWS THAT APPLICATION BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT F D O T, UM ESTABLISHED AND DETERMINED THAT IN THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT DETERMINATION THAT IT IS NOT WISE TO HAVE AN AIRSTRIP THERE.

AN AIRSTRIP WILL NOT BE BUILT. I'M GONNA ASK BONNIE BLUE TO COME UP HERE FOR A MINUTE. I'M GONNA GIVE ASK HER A FEW A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, AND THEN I'LL RESERVE A FEW MINUTES FOR YOU ALL TO QUESTION US REGARDING THIS, BONNIE. GOOD MORNING. I'M BONNIE BLUE 30,001 WEST 10TH STREET, PANAMA CITY. COULD YOU BRIEFLY GIVE YEAH. RUNDOWN OF YOUR EDUCATION AND YOUR BACKGROUND AS A PLANNER. SURE I RISK MHM. YEAH. I RECEIVED MY BACHELOR'S IN URBAN STUDIES FROM VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY AND A MASTER'S IN PLANNING, COASTAL AND LAND USE PLANNING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA IN CHAPEL HILL. BEEN A CERTIFIED AI CP PLANNER FOR 25 YEARS, 27 YEARS IN MY WHOLE CAREER AS A PLANNER, AND THE LAST FIVE YEARS I WAS A PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR A CITY. YOUR CAREER HAS BEEN SPENT AS A PLANNER. THAT'S RIGHT EXPERT AND PLANNING. YES. PLANS, INCLUDING A COUNTIES PLANS, OTHER PLANS AND YES. HAVE YOU REVIEWED THIS PLAN? YES YOUR OPINION YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION. IS THE APPLICATION THAT'S PRESENTED TO THE BOARD REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE. CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE. YES. NOW.

THERE IS A BACK HERE. THIS QUARTER TO PULL UP. IT'S YOUR LAND, USE MATH. THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. FOR THE AREA THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE. UM THERE ARE SEVERAL USES ALONG DELLWOOD MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD IN DELLWOOD THAT ARE THE NAVY BASE , AND THOSE USES ARE AN RV PARK , WHICH IS A RECREATIONAL USE AND THEN A MEDICAL FACILITY. THE V A HOSPITAL YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. THOSE ARE WHERE THOSE ARE ? YES IS THAT IN THE DARK BLUE AREA THAT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF THE GREEN, LOCATED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS SORT OF THE PART. YES, YES, THAT'S RIGHT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE THOSE USES CONSIDERED GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES. YES RV PARK AND THE MEDICAL FACILITY ARE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL USES. HOWEVER THERE WITHIN THE WITHIN THE FENCE OF THE NAVY BASE, SO

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WITH REGARDLESS REQUEST. UM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO TAKE WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. BAY POINT AND REPURPOSE IT UNDER ITS, UM, INTENDED USES, UM, THE PURPOSE FOR THE C FOUR ULTIMATELY. AS TO ENHANCE STARTING ENCOURAGE THE PLACEMENT OF UM, USES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE NAVY BASE, AND THOSE ARE THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AREAS. UM AS YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY VERY WELL AWARE, THE FOUR WAS ACTUALLY CREATED AND ONLY EXIST WITHIN THIS AREA AROUND THE NAVY BASE BECAUSE ITS PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE BASE. IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT THAT ALL OF THE USES IF WE START TO THE BIG RED HEARING IN THE ROOM, MY OPINION THE AIRSTRIP EVERY USE THAT SURROUNDS THE NAVY BASE WOULD PERMIT AN AIRSTRIP IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT IT THERE. I GIVE YOU THE BEST EXAMPLE WITH THE SANDY CREEK AIRPARK. WHICH ACTUALLY SITS RIGHT WITHIN AND UNDERNEATH. THE TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE RESTRICTED CLASS D AREA. UM IT DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE AND PERMITTED USE. IT'S ALSO IN A RESIDENTIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND IN OUR ONE DESIGNATION. AND IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH THOSE THE OPERATIONS AT THAT, UM, FACILITY. THE POINT OF THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. BUT IN ORDER TO GIVE COMFORT TO THE BASE AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF BAY POINT, WE HAVE OFFERED UP CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS THAT NO OTHER LANDOWNER AND BAY COUNTY HAS OFFERED. AND THAT IS, IF INDEED THERE IS A DECISION TO ACTUALLY MAKE APPLICATION FOR AN AIRSTRIP. THERE WILL BE THE NAVY'S INPUT OR THE OR TYNDALL AIR FORCE IS BASIC TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE IS INPUT ALL ALONG THE WAY. THE CHANGES AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM MS BLUE. REGARDING THE COMPATIBILITY USES, THE TOTAL WOULD BE 100,000 SQUARE FEET, WHEREAS THE COMP PLAN IF WE DIDN'T MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO IT WOULD ALLOW 240,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL LONG THAT AREA. THE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO THAT THAT WILL BE THAT 100,000 SQUARE FEET WILL BE IN FOUR SEPARATE BUILDINGS OF NO MORE THAN 25,000 SQUARE FEET EACH FOR EACH BUILDING. THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS AREA THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THOSE BUILDINGS IS NOT WITHIN THE J LOOSE AND WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO TO 160 FT. THE PROPOSAL IS TO LIMIT THAT TO TWO STORIES. UM. THERE WERE FURTHER RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE SO THAT IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AMENITIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS A POINT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU. I'LL HAVE ONE. UM IT'S ABOUT

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WE'VE BEEN SPUN UP ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND OTHER STATE AGENCIES AT THE TIME THAT AN APPLICATION IS MADE TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT SOMETHING OUT THERE, BUT AHEAD OF ALL OF THAT WE HAVE AGREED ON. MY CLIENT HAS AGREED TO LIMIT A LOT OF THOSE USES. SO ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO BE THE STORM WATER ISSUES REGARDING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT OUT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT ORDER THE SAME THING AS WITH THE WITH THE AIRSTRIP, WHICH HAS TO GO EVEN THROUGH MUCH MORE REVIEW, BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO TO THE F D. O T IN ORDER TO BE REVIEWED UNDER THEIR PROCESS, WHICH TAKES ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF IN ORDER TO GET THAT THROUGH. AND AS WE SAID, WE WERE EVEN GOING TO SUBMIT THAT TO THE NAVY AND THE AIR FORCE BASE, SIMULTANEOUS WITH THAT, SO THEY CAN CAN CAN REVIEW IT. THEN GETTING TO THE PART ABOUT THE STORM WATER. WELL MR WARREN PURCHASED THE COURSE. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE DID WAS GOING TO DRESS THAT AREA BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST HURRICANE MICHAEL. THAT FLOODED IT. I MEAN, WHICH THAT THAT WAS JUST AN EVENT OF EVENTS RIGHT? THERE WERE THERE WERE JUST OUR NORMAL COURSE OF RAIN EVENTS AFTER THAT, WHERE THERE WAS FLOODING ALL ALONG THE ROADS IN BAY POINT, UM, BECAUSE THE STORM WATER HADN'T BEEN MAINTAINED. SOME OF THAT WAS DUE TO THE PRIOR OWNER OF THE GOLF COURSE. AND MR WARREN JUMPED ON THAT AND GOT THAT REMEDY TO THE BEST HE COULD FOR HIM. FROM HIS STANDPOINT, OTHER PARTS OF IT HAPPENED TO BE THE FACT THAT THE BPC A HAD NOT MAINTAINED SOME OF THEIR STORM WATER FACILITIES.

NOW THAT'S BEING CORRECTED NOW, AND I BELIEVE THAT THOSE THINGS WOULD BE ALLEVIATED FOR THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. THE IDEA TO ADD CANALS AND THE OTHER THINGS IN THERE, UM IN ORDER TO, UH TO HAVE A CONNECTION AND CREATE THIS NEW SYNERGY FOR BAY POINT. REALLY STARTED OUT AS WHAT I KIND OF CALL IT A MASSIVE STORM WATER PROJECT. THAT WAS MR WARREN'S IDEA WAS THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO RELIEVE SOME OF THIS AND HEY, IF I CAN DO THAT AND PROVIDE, UM SOME BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BOY, THAT'S A WIN BOTH WAYS. SO LONG WAY OF SAYING YES, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ANSWER TO THE STORM. WATER PROBLEMS SEEMED LIKE IT THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT PART OF THE INTENTIONS FORWARD AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THANK YOU. HE MALES YES. LET ME LET ME LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, COULD YOU I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON IT EARLIER. COULD YOU RESTATE THE REASON C FOUR WAS CHOSEN? BECAUSE OF THE IN THAT AREA. THERE IS A, UM. IT'S WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE NAVY BASE, RIGHT? AND SO IN ORDER TO GET WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE SOME OF THE HIGHER CLASS TENANTS, UM NONE OF THESE. I'M GONNA NAME THESE JUST FOR EXAMPLE. BUT NONE OF THEM ARE IN NEGOTIATION THING WITH US. THE GENERAL DYNAMICS THE S A. I C ESSENCE ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT PROVIDES SUPPORT SERVICES TO THE BASE. IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM. YOU NEED TO HAVE THE C FOUR DESIGNATION. AND SO THAT'S C FOUR DESIGNATION ALSO ALLOWS FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. AND SO AS AS I'M SURE, YOU ALL KNOW, UM THE NAVY BASE HAS, UM IT'S BEEN TOLD TO ME AS MORE PHDS THAT ARE PARTICULAR ONE LITTLE BASE THAN ANY OTHER BASE STATION IN THE COUNTRY. WELL LOT OF THOSE FOLKS LIVE IN BAY POINT. AND WE'D ALSO LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THOSE KIND OF FOLKS. TO WORK WITHIN THOSE SMALL BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING SO THAT THEY CAN BICYCLE FROM THEIR HOMES IN BAY POINT, RIGHT THERE GOLF CART TO THEIR OFFICE AND THEN BE A REALLY CLOSE TO THE NAVY BASE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE PICKED THE FOUR BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN C ONE C TWO WOULDN'T ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THAT HIGH END, HIGHLY EDUCATED, HIGHLY PAID TENANT OR EMPLOYEE WORKING OUT THERE, SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR. THERE'S BEEN

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OKAY AND I'M HAPPY TO READ THOSE FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S THAT'S HERE, SO THEY'LL THEY'LL KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF FOLKS IN THE ROOM PROBABLY DON'T HAVE AN IDEA. BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE IF I MAY WELL, LET ME UH, 42 CERTAINLY DON'T MIND IF YOU READ THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT OUR CHAIRMAN WAS SENT A LETTER TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FROM THE COMMANDER OF THE NAVY BASE. REFLECTING. IS A YOU KNOW, HERE'S CONCERNING OBJECTION TO THE TO ANY AIRSTRIP THERE ALREADY. HE'S ALREADY GONE ON RECORD FOR THAT, AND IN THE LETTER, HE STATES THAT HE HAD CONVERSATION WITH TENDER AND THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY. SO UM, SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DOCUMENTED THAT THERE'S OPPOSITION FROM THE NAVY BASE ALREADY. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT IT'S THERE.

SO ANY ANY THING THAT WE. ANY EFFORTS TO GO THROUGH THIS AND SAY, WELL, WE'LL TALK TO HIM LATER. AND IF THEY OBJECT TO IT, THEN WELL THEN, THEN WE WON'T BUILD IT. I'M JUST POINTING OUT THERE ALREADY OBJECTED TO IT. YEAH, AND THAT'S THE SECOND. THAT'S THE SECOND LETTER. THAT'S THAT'S COME. THERE WAS INITIAL LETTER THAT MR WARREN HAD, YOU KNOW, GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO GET A MEETING WITH THE COMMANDER OF THE BASE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. THAT STUDY WAS WORRIED ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS. AND SO THE INITIAL PART OF THAT PARAGRAPH G AND I'LL JUST I'LL JUST READ IT REAL QUICK, SO THAT EVERYONE HERE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM PRIVATE AIRSTRIP LIMITED TO F A R PART 91 OPERATORS AS A PRIVATE OPERATORS. FACILITY OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE COMPANY AND NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TAKEOFF AND LANDINGS LIMITED TO THE OWNER OR GUESTS OF THE OWNER. HOURS OF OPERATION LIMITED TO SEVEN A.M. TO EVENING CIVIL TWILIGHT. THAT'S A AIRCRAFT PHRASE. UM BUT IN NO EVENT SHALL AN AIRCRAFT TAKE OFF OR LAND EXCEPT DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS. AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING. THE FACILITY SHALL BE REQUIRED TO COMMUNICATE WITH AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND TAKE BEST EFFORTS TO LIMIT APPROACHES TO A NORTHWEST FINAL APPROACH AND LIMIT TAKE OFF TO THE SOUTHEAST DEPARTURE. JUST AS AN ASIDE, THAT'S RIGHT

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I MEAN, THERE ARE FOLKS THAT THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. WHETHER THEY THINK SO OR NOT.

IT'S STILL IS DEPENDENT ON F D O T. THE NAVY AND THE AIR FORCE WAS TO SAY IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU, MHM. MARIO. I'VE GOT INTERESTED. FEW. MR BURKE. YOU JUST SAID THAT IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, IT WOULDN'T GET APPROVED. PICKING UP EVERYTHING. BUT EARLIER YOU SAID THAT ONLY BASED ON THE D O T CRITERIA YES , SIR. ON THE CRITERIA OR IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT WELL, THEY REVIEW THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE F D O T CRITERIA, AND THEY DETERMINED THAT IT IS, UM IN INAPPLICABLE OR IS IT'S NOT GREAT FOR THEIR AIRSPACE. THEN THEY CAN SAY NO. AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT THERE'S A LEGAL REASON FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T THERE WAS AN EARLIER VERSION THAT JUST SAID THEY COULD BLANKETLY SAY NO TO IT, ALL RIGHT. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WELL, YOU KNOW, YOUR CLIENT MAY HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT IF THAT IS THAT PROPERTY ENDS UP IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S HANDS, THEN THEY MAY CHALLENGE THAT AS A UNLAWFUL DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY AND THROW IT OUT. AND HERE WE ARE LEFT WITH SOMETHING A PROMISE THAT WASN'T MADE AND SO IN ORDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW APPLIED THAT LANGUAGE TO IT, AND SO THEY CAN. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. THEY WHEN I SAY THEY I MEAN THE AIR FORCE BASE IN THE NAVY DOESN'T HAVE TO RELY ON THE F D O. T S EVALUATION. THEY'LL DO THEIR OWN EVALUATION. AND BY THE WAY, IF D O. T HAS TO GO TALK TO KENDALL AND THE NAVY BASE PANAMA CITY BEACH, PANAMA CITY, YOU GUYS, I MEAN, IT'S AN ONEROUS APPLICATION PROCESS. SO THAT THE INTENTION THERE IS THAT YOU THAT THIS CRITERIA WOULD SURVIVE ANY CHALLENGE ANYONE ELSE THAT TRIED TO SAY THAT WAS UNLAWFUL DELEGATION AUTHORITY BECAUSE THERE IS A SET OF CRITERIA WHICH THEY WOULD GET A THIRD PARTY, NOT YOU, MEANING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD REVIEW AND THEY COULD DENY IT AND IT WOULD WITHSTAND THE TEST OF COURT. ARE YOU AWARE? HAVE YOU ALREADY HAD NEGOTIATIONS ROCKS WITH BOT. NO. UM ALL THESE USES THAT YOU SAID LAST NIGHT. NONE OF THESE WERE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. WERE THEY THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE LETTER THAT WE SENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD. AND THEY SAID THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GO TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY THAT THEY APPROVED IT UNANIMOUSLY AND THAT WE PUT THE RESTRICTIONS IN THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THAT LETTER. AND SO YOU KNOW, THEY MOVED ON. I PREPARED THOSE I SHARED IT WITH STAFF HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMMENTS BACK FROM STAFF REGARDING THAT. UM SO THIS IS THIS IS WHERE IT STANDS. MR LEE BRICK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I SUPPOSE, SENT SOME COMMENTS TO IT, AND I RESPONDED TO THAT. BUT THERE'S BEEN NO ADJUSTMENT OTHER THAN WHAT WE CHANGED BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD YESTERDAY EVENING. SO I KNOW YOU WANT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. A BIG LIST OF USES HERE. WHAT TIME IS RETAIL STORES? 5000 SQUARE FEET OF UNLESS DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THE 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND MAKE IT 5000 SQUARE FEET. WOULD BE WITHIN

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AND THEN THE THOUGHT THERE IS TO, YOU KNOW, GOLF SHOP ATTENDANT SHOP, FRANKLY, PICKLEBALL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS THESE DAYS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE THOUGHT IS. YOU'D HAVE SOMETHING THERE OR MAYBE A LADIES' CLOTHING SHOP OR SOMETHING. SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH, UM WITH A POINT AMENITIES, FOOD AND BEVERAGE DOOR. WE COULD HAVE MISSED NEWBIES. YEAH I MEAN, I'VE I'VE HEARD THAT SUGGESTION BEFORE, BUT THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S GOING TO GO AND WHAT WOULD GO IN BAY POINT, BUT, UM, AND ALSO I DON'T THINK MISS NEWBIES IS GONNA WANT TO CLOSE AT 10 P.M. SO WE ALSO HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS OF TIME IN THERE. UM NOW I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF SPECIFIC STUFF. THIS IS ALL BASED ON THE APPLICATION THAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF IN FRONT OF YOU ALL MY NOTES TO CALL MS BLEW UP TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE, BUT LET'S GO FOR IT. I'LL TRY. ONE OF THEM WILL START. SO THIS WAS YOUR FEBRUARY 8TH LETTER. THIS IS THE PROPOSAL TO AMEND RESOLUTION. 13 20 EXHIBIT B. AND IT TALKS ABOUT AREA. BP LINKS A ONE HAS ALL THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AT THE END HAS A DESCRIPTION. THIS PARCEL SHALL BE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. BUT YOU DON'T SAY HOW MANY UNITS YOU'RE DOING WITH. THE DENSITY IS OF THAT AREA DO YOU HAVE? CAN YOU GUYS PUT THE A ONE OF THE MAP UP SO WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT GREEN ON THE FAR LEFT THERE. YEP. THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. NO NO RESIDENTIAL UNITS PLAN FOR THAT AREA. BUT YOU SAID THIS PARCEL SHALL BE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL. UH, I APOLOGIZE. IT WAS IT WAS A MISTAKE. BUT THERE ARE IF YOU LOOK ON THE PLAN. UM THERE DOESN'T ASSIGN UNDER THAT MAP. H DOESN'T ASSIGN ANY UNITS TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO THEN WHY ARE WE CHANGING AT THE RESIDENTIAL? WELL, WHY NOT MAKE THE CHANGE NOW? I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT REALLY RESIDENTIAL. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT? IT'S JUST A QUESTION BECAUSE COMMISSIONER, YOU PROBABLY MORE BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE SITTING ON THAT BOARD KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH A LAND USE PLAN CHANGE AND YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW, AND IT SEEMS TO BE ANYTIME YOU SAY A POINT ON AN APPLICATION. IT RAISES A BROADER PROBLEM, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL CHANGE IT ALL. NOW IT'S NOT GONNA BE A GOLF COURSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CONSERVATION USE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT NOW, BUT ONCE THE LAND USE CHANGE, THEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND GET THE DENSITY AND WE WOULD HAVE WELL ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND MAP H LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW TO THEN ADD THE UNITS TO THAT. SURE. SO I GOT TO GO THROUGH A COMPLAINT CHANGE STILL AT THAT POINT TIME. UH UM. BUT LET ME LET ME SAY THIS, THOUGH. FROM A FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, THAT PARTICULAR AREA THERE DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO PUT HOMES IN THERE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE PLAN. THERE IS IT'S NOT BEEN PROPOSED BECAUSE IT'S STILL A BIT OF A THERE'S STILL MORE WORK A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND THE OTHER STUFF.

BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE ADDITIONAL CANALS. AND THEN THOSE FOLKS THAT BACK UP TO THAT LAND RIGHT THERE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE THE ACCESS TO GET TO THOSE CANALS. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY IT'S NOT LISTED AS WORK WITH ZERO UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED THERE SO WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE AND TAKE THE WORD SHELL OUT. UH, I DON'T . I DON'T. I DON'T THINK TRANSPORTING THE OTHER. THE FACT IS THAT YOU'VE GOT SHELBY ZERO.

THEN YOU STILL HAVE ZERO, RIGHT? SO ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU ARE PROVIDED WITH THE FOUR BUILDINGS. IT SHOWS LIKE THERE'S A ROADWAY TYING INTO THAT PIECE. YOU'RE PROPOSING ANOTHER GATE THERE. UH THE EXPECTATION AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A GATE ON THE END. AND THEN THERE'S STILL BECAUSE, REMEMBER, THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CLEARED THIS HURDLE YET, SO ALL THIS COULD BE FOR NAUGHT RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S AN EXPECTATION TO CONTINUE TO HAVE ALL OF THIS AS AN INTEGRATED WHOLE OF THE BAY POINT DEVELOPMENT. AND SO YES, THERE WILL BE ACCESS POINTS THERE. SO THEN THAT COULD BE A NEW GATE. THEN ALL OF A POINT COULD START ENTERING FROM THAT GATE INSTEAD OF COMING ALL THE WAY AROUND. THAT'S A THAT'S A POTENTIAL. UM AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO GET TO THAT POINT. BUT YES, SIR, THAT IS A IS AN ABSOLUTE POTENTIAL. GOING TO AREA B P LINKS A THREE. THE DESCRIPTION IS TOO BUT RESIDENTIAL THERE BUT IT SAYS NOT LIMITED 23 LOTS. BUT THE TABLES ARE LIMITED BASED ON THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE PUTTING. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM 23 LIGHTS . IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME ANSWER.

I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ABOUT THE SHELBY ZERO. OKAY? I MEAN THE TABLE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING THIS AND MOST OTHER COP PLANS THAT YOU HAVE IS WE'VE GOT TO COME TO YOU AND CHANGE THAT AND SO BY LIMITING THOSE THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO THE ZONE, THE RESORT AMENITIES SECTION THAT I CALL IT IS TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT RIGHT INTO THE COP PLAN RIGHT THERE. SAME THING ON THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THE AREA BP LINKS BE. IT SAYS NOT LIMITED. IF IT DID YOU LOT SO YOUR SITE PLAYING SHOWS 52, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO MORE THAN

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RECREATION SEASONAL RESORT, BUT IT HAS A SEASONAL RESORT ZONING . HOWEVER YOU'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE LAND USE ON THAT. WOULD IT NOT BE BETTER TO CHANGE IT TO RESIDENTIAL. SINCE WE'RE DOING ALL THIS? IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IF WE GO TO THE COMP PLAN, TABLE THREE. A IS VERY SPECIFIC. SEASONAL ROARED SEASONAL RESORT YEAR ROUND. PERMANENT RESIDENCES SHOULD NOT BE LOCATED IN THIS AREA. SO THEREFORE. COMPLAINT SAYS DON'T DO THIS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS SO WHILE WE'RE DOING ALL THIS, WOULDN'T IT BE CLEANER? JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF SEASONAL RESORT. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT ONE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE PLAN REALLY, FOR THAT IS TO BE A LARGE OPEN AREA. WHAT'S WITH SOME LOTS PROPOSING 10 LOTS IN THERE? YEAH IT WAS WITH SOME LOTS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. PUT OUR COMPANIES DON'T DO IT. WELL YOU DO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE SEASONAL RESORT FOR PERMANENT RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S A ZONING CATEGORY. SO BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO CHANGE THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S SOME CHANGE. THERE'S SOME OTHER CHANGES THERE THAT THAT ONE PARTICULARLY THERE MAY COME BACK BECAUSE THERE UM IF THIS GETS APPROVED THE WAY IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO HAVE A BIGGER CLUBHOUSE AND THAT AREA AND SO YOU COULD COME BACK AND SEE THAT PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT THERE. CHANGE FOR OTHER USES. BUT WE'RE FINE DENSITY TO IT IN THE TABLES RIGHT NOW. YOU ARE. YES, I'M SAYING THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY TIME THAT MY CLIENT MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH THIS FUN AGAIN WOULD BE IF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. GATES ARE RESIDENTIAL THERE. YES, SIR. COMMERCIAL IS OUTSIDE THE GATES. SO WE WOULD BE BRINGING THAT INSIDE WOULD BE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE IT'S CURRENTLY NOT THE ZONING AND LAND USE. THAT'S WHERE THE HOTELS, CONDOS OR WHICH IS COMING DOWN FROM THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD NOT THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION. SO THIS WOULD COME INTO THE SUBDIVISION TO ALLOW SEASONAL RESORT. WELL IT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S LAND USES RECREATION, SO YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT RECREATION BECAUSE THE LAND USE ZONING IS SEASONAL RESORT. YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THAT? YES, YES. BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO 10 LOTS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVING WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'RE APPROVING. I GOT YOU. THE NEXT ONE, AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M USUALLY ON YOUR SIDE OF THE PODIUM. SO THAT'S WHY I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS. AND I BET YOU'RE HAVING MORE FUN THAN I AM. YES. I LIKE TO ASK ME AT FOUR AM, WHY ARE YOU UP? AREA B P LINKS A TWO IN THAT ONE. IT TALKS ABOUT LIMITED 100,000 SQUARE FEET. TWO STORIES, BUT YOUR LETTER JANUARY 13TH STATE THAT IT'S ONE STORY, SO IS IT LIMITED TO STORIES OR ONE STORIES? IT'S THE TWO STORIES. IT'S WHAT WAS LIMITED TO TWO STORIES. SO THE 25,000 SQUARE FOOT IS THAT GROSS FLOOR THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE COMMERCIAL IS 100,002 STORY BUILDING WILL BE LIMITED. 12,500 SQUARES. YOU CAN. YES, SIR. OKAY? JUST MAKING SURE ABOUT FLOOR AREA RATIOS. NO I MEAN THE PROPOSAL IS A TOTAL OF 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A PLAN TO OVERSTUFFED THIS SAUSAGE, SO TO SPEAK. I MEAN, IT'S THE IT'S TO KEEP IT WITHIN THE COMMITTEE WITHIN THE IDEA OF BAY POINT MHM. MORE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE MAP POTENTIAL NEW ENTRANCE GATE ON THAT NORTH CORNER. THE POTENTIAL GREEN SPACE ON THE MAP COULD BE LOTS ONE DAY BECAUSE IT SAYS, SHALL BE RESIDENTIAL. OKAY NOW I'M GOING INTO YOUR JANUARY 13TH. THIS IS YOUR. BP LINKS LOC THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ON HERE IT LISTS ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. MHM AND IT REFERS TO BP LEXI BEING 15.9 ACRES. BUT THEN LATER ON 15.5 ACRES. SUBMITS IS 59. THE TABLES ARE DIFFERENT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE. WE'RE APPLYING THE AREAS TO WHETHER IT'S 59 15 5 BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT YOUR RATIOS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PROVE TABLES, TABLES ALL HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT . AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS. JUST ANYONE HAS POINTED THAT OUT. EVEN SEEN IT. SO I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE TYPOS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT CATCH UNLESS YOU WERE FLASHBACK IN IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING FUN AT FOUR A.M. SAME THING WITH THE COMMERCIAL TABLE, SAYS 34.8. THE SUMMARY SAYS

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PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL C FOUR ZONE IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND SUPPORTS PUBLIC INSTITUTION THAT WILL SUPPORT ACROSS THE STREET, ADDING LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL SLASH OFFICE. 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS ARE THOSE ARE BIG BUILDINGS. DOESN'T SEEM. A LOT OF AREAS TO SPREAD THAT ACROSS TO ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GET 240,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL ON THAT WHOLE GROSS AREA IF YOU WANTED TO. SO THE LIMIT IS TO DROP IT TO 100,000 IF TABLE H WAS UPDATED IF WHITE THAT TABLE AGE WAS UPDATED, YES, I AGREE. UM. GOING TO YOUR AMENDMENTS, WHICH YOU CITE ALL THE POLICIES ON WHY EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT POLICY 3.31. YOU TALK ABOUT FACILITY REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT POLICY IS ACTUALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES OF SERVICE AREAS THAT THAT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THERE. TABLE THREE A DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS. AGAIN THAT STATES ONE STORY. UM. BUT FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE SAYING TWO STORY NOW, RIGHT? BECAUSE IN HERE THIS AGAIN REFERS TO ONE STORY. STORIES. THERE WAS ACTUALLY A REQUEST FROM ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO DO A LOT MORE THAN THAN THAT AND HAVE YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT HEIGHT BUILDINGS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND WE JUST STUCK WITH THE TWO STORIES. POLICY 3.53 POINT 45 DEALS WITH THE DENSITY . YOURS IS 1.3 PER ACRE. BUT YOU'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT 8.1. ALL THAT AREA COULD BE DEVELOPED AS LOTS WHICH COULD AFFECT THAT NUMBER AND CHANGE THE DENSITIES THAT WE'RE COMPARING IT TO. IT'S STILL LESS THAN ANY OTHER DENSITY. THAT WOULD BE THERE. YEAH. UH POLICY 3.81 YOU STATE THAT IT'S LESS THAN 15 PER ACRE, BUT WE CAN'T SUPERSEDE 3.45, WHICH IS THE BIG POINT, SO BECAUSE YOU'RE LIMITED ON THAT DENSITY BASED ON A POINT , ALRIGHT? I MEAN THE POINT.

YOU'RE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY DENSITY. SO WE HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

THAT'S WHAT THE TABLES ARE ALL ABOUT, RIGHT? BUT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. THAT'S THE THERE'S A WELL YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS A PLAN TO DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WE'RE COMING TO ASK YOU TO CHANGE THAT. UM, TO MODIFY IT. REGARDING THE CANALS. HAVE YOU ALL MET WITH DP WATER MANAGEMENT ARMY CORPS? ANYBODY JUST TO GET THEIR PULSE ON? MAKE SURE THE EXPANSION JUST BECAUSE OF TITLE LANDS AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT ADEQUATE FLUSHING AND HAVE NOT HAVE NOT MET WITH THEM SPECIFICALLY TO GO THROUGH THAT, BUT HAVE, UM, HIRED HYDROLOGISTS AND FOLKS THAT MAKE THAT APPLICATION FOR YOU WHO HAVE TOLD US THAT THAT IS A THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION, AND THAT IS OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T BE HERE PROPOSING THIS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT. BUT NO, NO. NO APPROVAL BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T GET THAT UNTIL YOU GET THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER STAGE, RIGHT? WELL, YOU CAN GET YOUR REGULATORY PERMITS WITHOUT THE DEAL. YEAH. ALMOST THROUGH THE PROMISE. NON RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DEVELOPMENT. YOUR INTENSITY TABLES AGAIN. IT SAYS 34 POINT OUT IN HERE, BUT THE SUMMARIES 34 6, JUST INCONSISTENT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE FLORIDA RATIOS. AND THE APPLICATION THAT YOU TURNED IN REFERS TO 467 UNITS AND 231,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BECAUSE WE WERE TAKING WHAT WAS THE TOTAL LIMIT IN ORDER FOR THE CONCURRENCY MATTERS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE WHAT WHAT IS YOUR MAX? THAT'S THE 2 31. I KEEP TALKING ABOUT RIGHT. WHAT'S THE MEXICAN HAPPENED THERE FOR CONCURRENCY PURPOSES, AND SO IF YOU'RE ONLY DOING LESS THAN 40% OF WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THE COMMERCIAL, AND I WON'T TRY TO DO THE NUMBERS ON HOW MUCH LESS RESIDENTIAL YOU'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE CONCURRENCY STANDARDS FOR THAT, TOO. BUT EVEN IF YOU MAX IT ALL OUT, YOU STILL MET THE CONCURRENCY STANDARDS. AND SO THAT'S A PART OF YOUR APPLICATION, THOUGH THAT REQUESTS THAT THE RESORT. WE TALKED ABOUT COMMERCIAL SO WHAT ABOUT THE LAST ONE I'VE GOT? I PROMISE. TABLE 3 80 REGARDING GENERAL COMMERCIAL. DESIGNATION CRITERIA. GENERAL CRITERIA FOR THE LOCATION OF COMMERCIAL LAND USES INCLUDE EXISTING BUSINESSES . NEW COMMERCIAL USES MUST BE LOCATED OUTSIDE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND LESS PLANNED AS PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE OR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATE IN THE AREAS THAT ARE USED PRIMARILY FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. SO WHEN THE ORIGINAL MAP PAGE, WHICH CREATED THOSE FOUR COMMERCIAL PARCELS ON DELLWOOD WERE PART OF THAT MAP, WHICH WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT. BUT NOW OUR COMPLAINT SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST GO STICK COMMERCIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR NEIGHBOR CAN'T JUST GO PUT COMMERCIAL. I GUESS HE COULD. HE COULD REQUEST A CHANGE AND PUT COMMERCIAL RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOME. I GUESS THAT COULD BE DONE, RIGHT?

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LET'S GO BACK 20 YEARS AGO, PEOPLE DIDN'T UM, FREQUENT THE CLUBHOUSE, THE BEAUTIFUL CLUBHOUSE THAT USED TO BE AT BAY POINT. AND SO THERE WAS A CHANGE THAT CAME TO THAT, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THAT USE WASN'T VIABLE ANYMORE. AND SO AS PART OF THE BAY POINT RESORT WITHIN THAT ENVELOPE THERE IN IN THE D R I YOU'RE AWARE COVERS A BIG AREA ACROSS THIS WHOLE PART OF IT, AND SO IT WAS ALL DIFFERENT OWNERS HAVE PLAY IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT. THAT IS PART OF THE CHANGING ECONOMY. THE CHANGING DESIRE OF FOLKS TO BUY PROPERTY OR TO LIVE IN COMMUNITIES OR TO REVITALIZE THE COMMUNITY. UH THIS IS PART OF THAT CHANGE, SO THIS IS EFFECTIVELY MODIFICATION TO A P U D RIGHT. WE'RE COMING TO YOU SAYING THIS. THIS USE IS NO LONGER VIABLE ECONOMIC USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. AND BASED ON THE OVERALL THEME OF THAT COMMUNITY, A RESORT COMMUNITY. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A USEFUL PART OR USEFUL USE. UM TO MAKE THESE CHANGES AND TO LIMIT IT, YOU KNOW, TO CRANK IT DOWN FROM WHAT COULD BE TOTALLY PERMITTED THERE TO LIMIT IT TO THOSE USES THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE IN THE RESTRICTION WE'RE PROPOSING BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE BAY POINT DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW IT WAS IT WAS DARREN HAMAN, WHO IS ONE OF YOUR PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY LIVES AT BAY POINT. BEEN THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. WHEN HE WAS, UM UH, ON ON THE BOARD AS HE SAT THERE WHERE YOU ARE TODAY AND RECOMMENDED THE CHANGE, HE SAID. BAY POINT NEEDS A SHOT IN THE ARM. AND IT WAS HIS OPINION THAT THIS WAS A GOOD SHOT IN THE ARM. UM IT WAS THE OPINION OF ALL FOUR OF YOUR PLANNING MORE THAN OTHERS THERE THAT DAY THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD CHANGE TO THE TO THE P U D THAT IS BAY POINT D R USES THE CORRECT WHAT'S THAT PROVIDED THESE USES, THOUGH, RIGHT? NO THEY HAD A LETTER THAT THAT THAT SAID WE WOULD DO THESE THINGS. OKAY IT ACTUALLY WAS. MR HEYMAN THAT MADE US READ THE LETTER INTO THE RECORD AND THEN MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE THESE USES THERE. SO THIS WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION. SO THIS THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY ASKED FOR YOU TO DO. AND THAT AND AGAIN, THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, I GOT YOU WITH NEWBIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND YOU KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT MAYBE COULD OR SHOULD HAPPEN. BUT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT THAT'S WHY WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE TIMES OF USE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN AM TO 10 PM BECAUSE THIS IS WELL, IT'S A RESORT COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES IN IT. WE GOT TO. WE GOT SAINT JOE'S, UH, MORITA RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROPERTY HERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DON'T LIVE IN BAY POINT THAT COME THROUGH THAT AS A COMMERCIAL USE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK AND GET DOWN. GET TO USE THAT. SO IT'S PART OF THIS COMMERCIAL OR THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THESE LIMITED USES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UM RESORT STYLE AMENITIES AS SET FORTH IN THAT SUGGESTION TO YOU, UM, ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH NOT ONLY THE. WITH YOUR PLAN, BUT WITH THE AMENDMENT AND THE IDEA OF A POINT AS A WHOLE ON THE SITE PLAN. IT'S A VERY LONG LINEAR ROADWAY IS THAT A PURPOSE. INSTEAD OF JUST ACCESSING EACH INDIVIDUAL OR CLUSTERING IT OR SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY IN ORDER TO PUSH THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND I SAY DESIGN THAT'S JUST THE AGAIN WE'RE NOT AT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER STAGE, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING THIS IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF USES , LIKE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT , ETCETERA WITHIN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE IN ORDER TO ASSIST WITH COMPATIBILITY, AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A COMPATIBLE USE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT COMMERCIAL GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALL AROUND THIS AREA RIGHT HERE ALONG IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CONSISTENT WITH IT WAS TO PUT THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS, WHICH IS TYPICALLY NOT THE PRETTIEST PART OF THE BUILDING, UM, TO BE BACKING UP TO ELWOOD BEACH ROAD AND THAT THE FRONTS WOULD FACE THOSE HOUSES ALONG AMBERJACK AND MARLON IN THAT AREA. MORON CIRCLE IN THAT AREA, RIGHT? AND SO THAT THE ADDITION TO THAT IS IT ALSO CREATES EXTRA BUFFERING BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 25 FT BUFFER BETWEEN THAT RESIDENTIAL USE IN THE COMMERCIAL USE RIGHT? SO THEN THE SET THAT BACK EVEN FURTHER

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IF YOU PUT ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS SO THAT THEY ACCESSED IN THOSE FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ONTO THE ROADWAY. YOU'RE GOING TO DISRUPT THE USE OF THAT MULTI USE PATH, WHICH FOLKS USE A LOT. UM AND SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF HAVING JUST ONE ACCESS POINT OR POTENTIALLY TO ONE BY THE BY THE NAVY BASE UP THERE, WHERE THEIR RV PARK IS, AND THE V, A HOSPITAL. AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE ALSO TO COME IN THROUGH THE WHAT YOU PROBABLY KNOW IS THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL GATE FOR BAY POINT, SO YOU LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ACCESSES ONTO DELLWOOD OR MAGNOLIA BEACH. SO YOU DON'T DISRUPT THAT TRAFFIC AND YOU DON'T MESS UP. FRANKLY THE MULTI USE PATH AND YOU PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AND COMPATIBILITY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES. ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. OKAY? ALRIGHT. SURE. EVERYBODY ELSE. YES, SIR. YOUR TURN. YES SIR. COMMISSIONER MORE. WOULD YOU LIKE A WATER? I'M BEING DEAD SERIOUS. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD. I GOT IT. UM APPRECIATE. I KNOW WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT. THE CHANGES WERE BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION. I AGREE. YOU'RE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS INSIDE OF DOING THIS, UM, AGAIN ON RECORD AS WELL. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE ER ARE SITTING INSIDE OF THE COMP PLAN, AND EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, I'VE THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE REMOVED AND WORKING ON A D R TWO, D R AS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATES WITH OTHER CLIENTS AND LOT MORE SANE. UM THAT BEING SAID, AND GETTING OFF THAT SOAPBOX. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.

WHY? INSIDE OF DOING THIS IN PRESENTING, WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT AS A P U D AT THE TIME BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT C ONE OR C TWO AND YOU COULD KIND OF CHERRY PICK AND MOVE. WHAT YOU WANT IN AND OUT AND DOING IT IN THAT WAY, INSTEAD OF JUST DOING AN OVERLAY IN CANADA BEING STRATEGIC, WHETHER IT IS OPPOSED TO JUST KIND OF DROPPING IT ALL. WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROPOSING A P U D IN THE SENSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING IT WITHIN THE D R. I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY CUMBERSOME WAY TO GO ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY FOR THOSE OF US THAT THAT DEAL WITH US A LOT. WE REALIZED WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING ARE TWO COP PLAN CHANGES. WITHIN A COP PLAN, REALLY? RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING TO DO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DO THIS CHANGE TO THE SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE, WHICH IS THE MAP PAGE AND THE RESOLUTION THAT COMMISSIONER UM CAROL AND I JUST SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THE P U D. I MEAN THAT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT. THAT BAY POINT WASN'T ALREADY A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT IT IN YOUR CODE, BECAUSE IT'S GOT THE MIX OF USES AND IT IT'S GOT RECREATIONAL. IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S GOT COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW, AND SO YOU , YOU TAKE THAT THAT BIG BALL OF CLAY AND YOU MOLDED INTO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE. AND SO WE'RE TAKING RIGHT NOW THAT THAT CLAY NEEDS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SHAPE TO IT, BUT IT'S STILL A P U. D. OKAY AND AS I'VE SAID TO YOU, AND I'LL SAY IN PUBLIC, UM YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A MEATLOAF THING FOR ME. TWO OUT OF THREE AIN'T BAD. UM I'VE GOT NO ISSUES WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPOSING WITH THE COMMERCIAL OF ACTUALLY ADVOCATED FOR THAT OF MOVING STUFF FROM BEHIND THE FENCE OVER FOR PRIVATE APPLICATION AND BEING ABLE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NAVY BASE . THAT IS LOGICAL TO ME. IT MAKES SENSE FROM THE PROXIMITY OF THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH, IF IT WAS IF IT WAS REGULAR PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE ZONED AS COMMERCIAL. UM I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WHERE I DO HAVE HEARTBURN, THOUGH, IS THE AIRSTRIP AND I'M GOING TO BRING YOU TO 1 63 3 31 75. LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS ON COMPATIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT WITH MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. UM AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID SPECIFICALLY THE LEGISLATURE FANS THAT DESIRABLE FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE STATE TO COOPERATE WITH MILITARY INSTALLATIONS TO ENCOURAGE COMPATIBLE LAND. USE HELP PREVENT INCOMPATIBLE ENCROACHMENT AND FACILITATE THE CONTINUED PRESENCE OF MAJOR MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. THEN THE STATE AND THE VERY NEXT PART GOES TO IDENTIFY MAJOR MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND S A P C IS ONE AND THAT IS J AND THEN OH, IS TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE. I GET WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT SANDY CREEK.

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IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE USES, THEN THEY OUGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE USE. THAT'S AROUND THEM. THEY OUGHT TO BE OBJECTING EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A CHANGE, BUT INSTEAD WHAT IS OUR COMMUNITY DONE? WE HAVE FOLLOWED 1 63 THAT YOU JUST READ. WE CREATED. THE J LOOSE WENT THROUGH THAT WE CREATED C FOUR SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT THE NAVY BASE. YOU ALSO HAVE THE AGAIN LIKE THE ELEMENT THAT OR THE GOAL THAT THE POLICY RATHER THAN MR CROWLEY REDMAN AGO THAT SAYS, WE WILL INCORPORATE THE NAVY BASE INTO THESE THESE DECISIONS. AND THEN YOU HAVE MY CLIENT COMING TO YOU SAYING ALRIGHT, LOOK, MAYBE IT WAS A BAD IDEA TO TELL ANYBODY WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD USE OF THIS PROPERTY AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT I'VE DONE IT AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO YOU NAVY BASE, AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU EVEN ONE MORE BITE AT THE APPLE IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'LL ADD THAT LANGUAGE THAT I READ EARLIER FOR COMMISSIONER DOZER. IT SAYS THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE SHOT JUST LIKE WE GIVE THE F D O T. AND IF YOU SAY NO, YOU SAY NO. I MEAN, WHAT? WHAT MORE CAN WHAT MORE. CAN YOU GIVE SOMEONE? AS THE ABILITY TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR THAN TO SAY TO THEM. EUR $1 BILLION IS SAFE WITH US.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, WE WON'T BUILD IT. BUT WE AT LEAST WOULD LIKE THE MISSION FOR THE BASE COULD CHANGE AT ANY TIME, RIGHT ? I MEAN, THEY COULD CHANGE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND IT COULD BE A USE THAT WOULDN'T BOTHER THEM. AND SO WHY WOULDN'T MY CLIENT HAVE THE ABILITY AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO GO TO THE BASE AND SAY ALRIGHT, YOUR MISSIONS HAVE CHANGED. DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION NOW? AND THEY SAY NO. AND LOOK, WE'RE THE FIRST PART OF THIS PLAN IS GOING TO BE THE

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THEY ULTIMATELY GET TO SAY NO, IT DOESN'T GO THERE. AND IT'S AND HERE'S THE OTHER PART OF THAT COMMISSIONER. IT'S NOT JUST THAT USE THEY GET TO TALK ABOUT FROM THAT. APART FROM THAT CAR PLAN POLICY THAT MR TRILLING READ A MINUTE AGO. THEY GET THEY GET TO WEIGH IN ON ANY OTHER USE THAT GOES OUT THERE. NOT JUST AN AIRSTRIP. HERE WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM NEXT WERE PROMISING TO THEM THAT IF YOU SAY NO, WE WON'T BUILD IT. WE WILL WILL BE DONE WITH IT. THAT'S THE END OF THE STORY. YOU CAN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. I HAD SOME STATEMENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TIME TO DO THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. BUT I DO HAVE SOME THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. A LITTLE LET DOWN YES, YES. YEAH WE'LL LET WE'LL LET SOMEONE ELSE COME UP IN MY EARLY FEET. YOU HAVE NO JOHN'S PROBABLY CRINGE IN WATCHING THE CLOCK TICK ON YOU. YES, SIR.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, SIR. I'M COMMANDER MICHAEL MOSEY UNDER COMMANDING OFFICER. NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY. PANAMA CITY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING THE LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED AND BAY POINT. AS STATED IN THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COUNTIES TO CONSIDER OUR INPUT AND CONCERNS DURING THE REVIEW OF REZONING REQUESTS INSIDE ESTABLISHED MILITARY INFLUENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT. IN ADDITION TO SUBMITTING THE LETTER, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED. I WANTED TO PERSONALLY STAND HERE BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY. TO SHARE THE NAVY'S CONCERNS REGARDING THIS LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. AFTER THIRD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR TEAM THAT'S AT PANAMA CITY TO INCLUDE OUR MAJOR TENANT COMMANDS. AND THE THREE 25TH. FIGHTER WING AT TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE. WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL SAFETY UM AND SECURITY CONCERNS PERTAINING TO THE PROPOSED ALLOWABLE USE FOR CHANGES REQUESTED IN BAY POINT. URGED THE BOARD TO TAKE OUR CONSOLIDATED CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION. HOW REVIEWING THIS REQUEST. THE NAVAL SERVICE WARFARE CENTER. PANAMA CITY CONDUCTS RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT TESTING AND EVALUATIONS YEAR ROUND ON S A PANAMA CITY AND IN ST ANDREWS BAY. SWC HAS AN AIRSPACE ACCESS AUTHORIZATION AGREEMENT. THROUGH THE F A TO CONDUCT UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS , FLIGHTS OVER THE BASE AND MUCH OF ST DANGEROUS SPACE BAY RECENTLY I REACHED OUT TO THE LEADERSHIP OVER AT TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE. UM IT HAS COME CLEAR THAT THEY SHARE OUR CONCERNS OVER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN AIRSTRIP. ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THEIR DEPARTURE AND ARRIVAL PATTERNS WITH NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR OWN FLIGHT OPERATIONS. AS THE TWO LARGEST EMPLOYERS AND BIG COUNTY, ESPECIALLY EARLIER.

HERE S A PANAMA CITY AND TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE EMPLOYER OVER 7000 INDIVIDUALS, MEN AND WOMEN.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL DECISIONS MADE BY THE COUNTY CONSIDER THE BEST INTEREST OF NOT ONLY THE INSTALLATIONS BY THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. ONCE AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS BEFORE THE BOARD AND URGED THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER OUR INPUT DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS. WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO ENSURE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR INSTALLATIONS. AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD SERVE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? GOOD MORNING. I'M TOM NEUBAUER ABOUT 6 TO 8 SHORELINE DRIVE. UM I'M ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION TODAY IN MY VOLUNTEER ROLE AS PRESIDENT OF THE DEFENSE ALLIANCE. IT'S AN ORGANIZATION FORMED ABOUT 27 YEARS AGO WITH ABOUT 30 MEMBERS ON OUR BOARD.

IT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF DEDICATED CIVIC LEADERS, FORMER MILITARY MEMBERS, PEOPLE WHO CHOSE TO RETIRE HERE IN BAY COUNTY AND MAKE THIS THEIR PERMANENT HOME. COMMANDERS FROM BOTH BASES ARE ON OUR BOARD, INCLUDING ONE THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. CAPTAIN JESSICA

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EACH OF THESE PLANS WERE DEVELOPED IN AN OPEN COMMUNITY FORUM OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT A YEAR. AND EACH OF THESE PROVIDES THESE INSTALLATIONS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT NEARBY DEVELOPMENT. WHICH COULD AFFECT THE BASE. THE NAVY OFFERS JUST ONE CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSION PLAN FOR BIG POINT COMMUNITY. THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THAT RUNWAY. UM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE DEFENSE ALLIANCE BOARD STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE SINGLE CONCERNED VOICE BY THE INSTALLATION LEADERSHIP TODAY. AND WE WOULD JUST ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO HONOR THE NAVY REQUEST TO PROHIBIT CONSTRUCTION OF THAT RUNWAY, WHICH COULD BE 1500 FT FROM FROM THE NAVY'S PROPERTY LINE. WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE DEVELOPERS REDEVELOPING AND A PLACE LIKE PAY POINT. AND CERTAINLY A BIG PLUS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THIS ONE COMPONENT OF THAT PROPOSAL IS WHAT THE NAVY IS OBJECTING TO. AND WE ASK THAT YOU DELETE THAT FROM THE IN THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. I'M LILLIAN COOPER 2 TO 7 MARLINS CIRCLE AT BAY POINT. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UH, LET THEM COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT MR WARREN HAS. HIS, UM. PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED. HE'S BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT WITH BAY POINT RESIDENTS. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. I DO. HERE. THE CONCERN ABOUT AN AIRSTRIP, BUT I WOULD URGE THE COMMISSION TO TRY TO WORK. WITH MR WARREN TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. WITHIN BOTH OF YOUR COMFORT LEVELS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY GOOD FOR THE BAY POINT, NOT THE AIRSTRIP. I'M NOT SAYING THAT AIRSTRIP PARTICULARLY IF EVER BUT THE WHOLE PLAN IN GENERAL IS VERY GOOD FOR PAY POINT AND FOR BAY COUNTY WITH TAX REVENUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD? YES, SIR. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS DAVID PEARSON. AND MY RESIDENCE IS, UH, 551555. 557 WAHOO ROAD. UM I TYPICALLY DON'T COME UP AND SPEAK, UH, FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS, EVEN THOUGH I'M ENGAGED IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT MYSELF. BUT I FIND THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION COMPELLING ENOUGH THAT I WANTED. TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR BEING ALLOWED TO SPEAK HERE. UM THE. I HEAR THE VARIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU BOTH AS IN THE CAPACITY OF A ANY INVESTOR, PREVIOUS CURRENT IN REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT DEVELOPER BUT ALSO AS A RESIDENT OF BAY POINT AND AS A LONG TIME OFFICER NADA OF BAY POINT ITSELF. I HAD QUITE THE LOVE AFFAIR WITH MY POINT. I'VE HAD A BOAT THERE AT THE MARINA SINCE 2002 SO I DEEPLY CARE ABOUT IT. UM. I HEAR THIS WORD CHANGE, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL AT TIMES A BIT AFRAID OF CHANGE OR WE ANTICIPATE CHANGE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, AND SOMETIMES THOSE REASONS CHANGE, BUT. IT STRIKES ME THAT THE PIVOTAL CHANGE IN BAY POINT AT LEAST AS OF RECENT, IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME OCCURRED AS HAS BEEN SPLIT STATED EARLIER WHEN THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH IN 2018. AND AFFECTED THE VERY LANDS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY . UM I RECALL HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED HERE TODAY. BUT THERE WAS SOME SEVERAL 1000. I HEARD IT ONE TIME UP TO 7000 TREES THAT WERE UP TO 200 YEARS OLD THAT USED TO LINE THOSE GOLF COURSES. UH AND ALSO, UM SHIELDED THE VARIOUS HOUSES THAT MAKE UP THE 1700 HOMES THAT ARE

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COMMISSIONER, PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO BRING UP A FEW ISSUES THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM MAY NOT REALIZE THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE SAME AREA, AS IS A POINT. FIRST OFF, THEY POINT IS PRETTY LARGE IN ITSELF . IT'S GOT 2300 AND 19, INCLUDING THE CONDOS. THE PRESERVE HAS GOT 414. WE RECEIVED UP UNTIL LAST NIGHT. 19 LETTERS IN FAVOR FROM BAY 190.17 AGAINST AND ONE LETTER FROM BILL WOULD AGAINST SO WITH THAT MANY FOLKS, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON PEOPLE THAT WERE UPSET ABOUT THE PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW. IF WE HAVE A ZONING MAP WE CAN PUT UP OR JUST A MAP, BUT I WANTED TO SORT OF RUN THROUGH. WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND A POINT SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS ON SOME OF THE ZONING. IF WE START, UM THOMAS DRIVE. AND I WANT TO START RIGHT THERE AT THE WYNN DIXIE, SO YOU'VE GOT THE WIN DIXIE AND THE PUBLIC'S, WHICH ARE BOTH BIG BOX. STORES THAT. LEAD INTO LEAD INTO THEIR THE FIRST BUILDING.

UM, NEXT TO THE WIND DIXIE AND I'M THE ONES THAT I'M BRINGING UP HERE OR IN ALREADY C THREE AND C FOUR AND THEY BACK UP TO WAHOO CIRCLE AND WAHOO ROAD. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE WINDEX, OF COURSE IN BUT THE PANAMA CITY BEACH OFFICE PARK WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE. YOU'LL SEE SOME NEW STORAGE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT, UM RIGHT AFTER THAT, YOU'VE GOT ANDY'S FLOWER POWER THAT CAJUN PLACE. YOU'VE GOT AN EMPTY LOT. CHRISTOS MOBILE AND MOBILE AND GAS ABOUT THE HAMPTON INN AND THE FORESTATION. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE OWNED THOMAS ROBB ON THE BACKSIDE OF UM. OF BAY POINT, AND THEN THERE'S AN ENTRANCE A BACK ENTRANCE THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO LOVE TO ZIPPY IN THE BACK WAY THERE MY POINT, SO ALL OF THAT IS BEHIND US. AND IT'S IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. THE

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THE NEXT AREA YOU COME TO ON THE LEFT SIDE IS NAVY BASED PROPERTY , AND THERE'S TWO QUANTITY HUTS THERE AND A GENERATOR AND I THINK SOMEONE TOLD ME IT WAS MMWR. I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN WHAT THAT IS, BUT NEXT TO THAT IS THE NAVAL BRANCH HEALTH CLINIC AND V A OUTPATIENT CLINIC. NOW THOSE ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM BAY POINT RESIDENTIAL OFF OF OAHU. STRAIGHT ACROSS. THE NEXT ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS SOUTH SIDE OR BE PART. THAT'S IT. 53 01. THEN YOU HAVE RIGHT NEXT TO YEAR RESIDENTIAL PELICAN BAY SUBDIVISION. GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. YOU'VE GOT MAGNOLIA BY CONDOMINIUMS. NOW IF WE TURN RIGHT ON DEAL WITH BEACH DRIVE DELLWOOD POINT, WHICH IS A PART OF THE PRESERVE. IS THE FIRST YOU COME TO THE NEXT THING IS THE DELLWOOD OFFICE PARK. AND IT IS HIDDEN BACK IN THERE BY THE BUFFERS THAT WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE TREES. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS INSIDE OF DELLWOOD OFFICE PART BECAUSE I'VE LIVED AT BAY POINT. MY FATHER LIVED THERE. I LIVED ON BARE POINT ROAD FROM THEIR FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BUT I NEVER KNEW UNTIL NOW. WHAT ALL IS IN THE OFFICE PART. THE FIRST THING YOU COME TO IN THERE IS BOAT STORAGE. THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR ACCOUNTANT INSTALLATION ON PANAMA CITY BEACH LAND HOME FINANCIAL DISABILITY VETERAN'S LAWYERS. PRICE CAPITAL. RIPLEY'S MEDIA JOHN DAVIS ANDREAS CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I THINK HAS TO BE IN OR THREE COASTAL CODE SERVICES. ASHER INSPECTIONS VENTURE OUT VACATION PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BLACK CORPORATION, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SURMA CLARK MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, DAVID COLLINS SCHOOLS. C P AND J.

LOGISTICS AND TALGAT SO AFTER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE PRESERVE WHICH, AS WE ALL KNOW IS COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL. YOU GO DOWN TO THE END, AND YOU'VE GOT NO UH, THAT'S IT. 3500 DELLWOOD ROAD. NOAH IS, UM, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. ITS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ON FISH AND GROWTH STUDIES AND ABUNDANCE OF FISH. THEY WORK WITH LAYABOUT OF MIAMI, FLORIDA THEY ARE THE SCIENCE CENTER FOR THE SOUTHEAST. SO AFTER YOU PASSED THAT THAT WHICH IS, UM, BEEN THERE FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS BUT QUITE AWHILE, THEN YOU GET TO RESIDENTIAL AGAIN, AND ALL OF THIS IS WITH BAY POINT STRAIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, THE ONLY THING I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN HARMONY.

WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UM , ZONING. I MEAN, IT GOES FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. IT HAS GOT THEM ALL MIXED IN THERE. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THESE BUSINESSES AND THESE DIFFERENT ZONE ING'S THROUGHOUT AND ALSO REMEMBER WHEN MY FATHER AND I BOTH LIVED IN BAY POINT THAT THERE WERE, UM RESTAURANTS AND, UM SOME OTHER RETAIL SPACES DOWN AT THE MARINA. SO WHENEVER THAT WAS BEFORE THE STORM BEFORE, ALL THAT TORN DOWN, ALL OF THAT, UM, WAS ALSO INSIDE OF BAY POINT. I, UH. DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE DON'T CHANGES. I DO NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD DISRUPT THE NAVY OR THE AIR FORCE WHATSOEVER . THAT'S WHY I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY HAD PUT IN THIS, UH, DEED RESTRICTION THIS, UH, LONG LIST OF DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY WOULD NOT UM, BUILD THAT AIRPORT OR THINK ABOUT DOING THAT AIRPORT WITHOUT 100.

BLESSINGS FROM. THE F D, O T AND , UH, THE NAVAL AND TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, SO I WAS PROUD TO

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AND NO BILLBOARD TYPE SIGNAGE. UH I DON'T THINK THAT WAS WHAT YOU MEANT, BUT I THINK SOME LANGUAGE MAY NEED TO BE CHANGED FOR THAT. UM THE BUILDINGS WERE 2500 SQUARE FEET WITH AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT FOUR BUILDINGS. I THINK AT ONE TIME, MAYBE SOMEONE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD QUITE A FEW OTHER BUILDINGS THERE. LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDINGS, OF COURSE, IS FAR FROM THE HOMES AS POSSIBLE, SCREAMING OF SAID THAT AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAD DANGEROUS. STRICT ID THAT YOU HAD ALREADY SAID YOU INDEED, DISTRICT THE MAIN THING IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. NO ONE WANTS THE AIRSTRIP THERE WITHOUT THE PERMISSION. FROM THE NAVY AND THE AIR FORCE TO PUT THAT THERE AND THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SAY IS, IF THEY DO IF THINGS CHANGE EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY, EVERYTHING CHANGES AND IF SOMETHING CHANGES WITH THE NAVY AND ITS AND THEIR GOOD WITH HIM PUTTING AIRSTRIP IN AT THAT POINT AND THE NEIGHBORS. DON'T YOU KNOW, GET UPSET ABOUT IT. THEN I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD PLAN, AND I JUST REALLY WITH ALL THIS SAID, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN HARMONY WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ZONING OVER THERE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YOU KNOW, UM ANYMORE THINGS THINGS TO SAY. UM. THE IDEA OF HEAVEN AND COMMERCIAL. NO OBJECTION TO IT. UH I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH HAVING COMMERCIAL UM, C FOUR HAVING A RUNWAY AND AIRSTRIP. I GOT A LOT OF CONCERN. WE'VE WE'VE ALL SEEN THE EMAILS FROM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN BAY POINT THAT BACK UP TO IT. YOU KNOW THAT HAVE ENJOYED A GOLF COURSE WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE NOT IT'S NOT A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT TO HAVE IT OR PROPERTY RIGHT TO HAVE IT. HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN RECREATION.

IT'S PART OF THE D R I, AND ALL OF THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS RECREATION. SO TO CHANGE IT TO COMMERCIAL THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG STEP FOR THEM. UM BUT THEN TO THEM POTENTIALLY GET AN AIRPORT IN THEIR BACKYARD. THAT'S A BIG CHANGE. UM AND I KNOW THERE'S A LONG LENGTHY PROCESS. UM TO GO TO THE AIRPORT APPROVAL PROCESS. BUT HE'S GOT A GREAT TEAM. I THINK YOU COULD DO IT. I THINK THAT THE CONCEPT IS GREAT. I THINK HAVING IT WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE AIRPORT THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WAS A PLANNED COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT EVERYONE BOUGHT IN. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BUYING. YOU'RE GETTING IT. HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYONE KNOWS. THAT'S A POINT OF GOLF COMMUNITY NOW COULD POTENTIALLY BECOME AN AIRPORT. UM SO THE CONCERN FOR THE NAVY BASE. WE JUST GOT EXCUSE ME. I JUST RECEIVED YESTERDAY. A LETTER FROM THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD. WE HAD A PLAN IN 2021 WITH THE BOARD APPROVAL. TO BECOME A COAST GUARD FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. AND IT SAYS THANK YOU FOR YOUR LETTER DATED OCTOBER 21ST 2021 QUESTION. BAY COUNTY B. DOESN'T IT? COAST GUARD COMMUNITY COACH CARR THANKS YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS SUPPORT OF OUR WOMEN AND MEN STATION DEBATE COUNTY. I'M PLEASED TO INFORM YOU THAT I'VE NOTIFIED THE APPROPRIATE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES OF MY INTENTION TO PREVIEW REQUEST. AND IT GOES ON THAT WE MY PLEASURE TO SIGN A PROCLAMATION. DESIGNATING A COUNTY IS A COAST GUARD COMMUNITY. WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE'RE EXTREMELY MILITARY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. THERE'S AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO HAVE BEEN MILITARY AFFAIRS CHAIRMAN. UM AND WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR MILITARY. THE THOUGHTS OF THE MISSION CHANGING. THAT THAT TERRIFIES ME BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF JOBS OUT OF HOT PAYING JOBS. PEOPLE COMING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY. DIVERS COMING THROUGH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DEPENDING ON CITY. REMEMBER PANAMA CITY. COME BACK, UM I THINK DOING THE RESIDENTIAL IS A FANTASTIC IDEA. DOING THE CANAL'S PRETTY MORE WATERFRONT. ALL THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS. CREATING SOME COMMERCIAL . I THINK EVEN THE ACCOMPLICES DON'T DO IT. I THINK YOU CAN SPRINKLE IN SOME COMMERCIAL IN THERE WITHOUT DOING THAT ENTIRE LENGTH OF IT. SO. I THINK WE CAN GET COMMERCIAL WITHOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THE RUNWAY AT ANY GIVEN TIME. THE REQUEST CAN COME BACK FOR THIS BOARD IF THE MISSION CHANGES OF THE BASE TO REQUEST THAT APPROVAL, BUT NOW IF WE APPROVE ALL OF THIS THEN THE PROCESS CAN START. THEY CAN GO THROUGH IT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH. I'VE NOT READ THE D O T BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THIS LAST NIGHT. BUT THE LANGUAGE WHERE IT SAYS BASED ON THE CRITERIA UPON WHICH THE FDA OT EVALUATES, DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I DON'T KNOW. I HEAR THAT WE GIVE THE NAVY BASE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DECISION PROCESS SO ANYWAY, HAVING COMMERCIAL GREAT IDEA HAVING RESIDENTIAL GREAT IDEA I THINK THE AFRICAN NEEDS TO UPDATE A LITTLE BIT

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OKAY I KIND OF ECHO A LOT OF. COMMISSIONER CAROL'S COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THERE. UM THERE'S HOME MASTER PLAN OUT THERE, I THINK IS A IS A GREAT IDEA, AND I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A GREAT SHOT IN THE ARM. UM FOR BAY POINT TO GET IT, UM, REVITALIZED, UM. IT HAS A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS. I'VE SAT WITH HIM SEVERAL TIMES TO GO OVER THOSE, UM WITH THEM. UM I THINK HE'S I THINK HE'S ON THE RIGHT TRACK OF DOING ALL THIS. BUT THE UM STICKING POINT TO IS THE AIRSTRIP. AND. OUR JOINT LAND USE AGREEMENTS. THE WAY I READ THEM IS AS IN THE CONTEXT OF NOW, NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT MAY BE MIGHT BE. 10 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN THE CONTEXT OF NOW THEY HAVE SHOWN OPPOSITION IN 2021 AGAIN AND WE'LL JUST YESTERDAY AND TODAY AS A COMMANDER SPOKE. UM, IN OPPOSITION OF IT. SO IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR. RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE BASE WHERE THEY ARE THINK WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD SHAPE WITH THAT INTENDED AS WELL. YOU KNOW THE I THINK. THESE THINGS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH R AND D, UM AND I THINK A POET WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO DO IT. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM TYPOS THAT COMMISSIONER KAREL HAS BROUGHT UP IN THE MIST. SOME MAYBE MISTAKES MADE IN THE ORIGINAL, UM, ORIGINAL APP.

PRIMARY NEED TO DO SOME CLARITY THERE, MAYBE DO SOME CLEANUP. UM AND. YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE STORIES. BUT THEN WE'RE TALKING TWO STORIES SO FOREST, MAKING GETTING IT TO GO BACK. TO PLANNING HAS STAFF IS, UM, RECOMMENDING. I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO THAT. UM YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A LAND USE. UM PLANNER LIKE THIS LADY HERE, AND I'M NOT A CIVIL ENGINEER. BUT MY LAYMAN TERMS OF PUD WITH THE CONDITIONS OF R AND D WOULD BE PERFECT. IT WOULD MATCH THIS THING IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY COULD GIVE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT LAND. UM THE ERROR THE AIRSTRIP PORTION OF IT, THOUGH. I THINK THAT IS JUST IT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BRICK WALL. WITH IT. I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT. I DON'T. I JUST DON'T SEE IT. SEE IT HAPPENING AT THIS DAY IN POINT. UM AND THOSE THOSE ARE JUST JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT. OKAY? AH I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.

I JUST LIKE TO MAKE AS WELL UM THE OVERALL PLAN. I CERTAINLY DON'T DISAGREE WITH. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF IT UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF IT AND WHY YOU WANT TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW THE COMMENT SHOT IN THE ARM FOR BAY POINT, I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT PORTION OF IT. OR HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH JUST JUST LIKE IT'S BEEN SET UP HERE BEFORE IS THE AIRSTRIP? UM AND WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH MR BARAK. AH LAID IT OUT THERE AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT OFF THE BOARD AND WE CAN PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH THIS, MAYBE ADJUSTMENT HERE OR THERE, OR OR HAPPINESS TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. UM BUT FOR ME, THE AIRSTRIPS ARE NO STARTER. IT'S A NONSTARTER. I WON'T I WON'T. I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO AH! SEND THIS BACK TO STAFF TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT IF HE WANTS TO. MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. BUT FOR ME ONE OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS MUST BE THE AIRSTRIP COMES OUT OF IT. AND THE REASON IS AS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT BEFORE WE, UH I SUPPORT

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THAT'S WHERE I STAND. UM MIKE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. AND YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATIONS LEADING UP TO THIS AND TAKING AN EFFORT TO JOHN, WHEREVER YOU ARE. I'VE SEEN THAT YOU'VE LEFT THE ROOM, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND YOUR TIME OF TAKING AND TALKING WITH ME ABOUT THIS AS WELL. TO KIND OF EXPAND ON WHY HAVE THE HEARTBURN I HAVE I WAS THE MATCH CHAIRMAN IS ROBERT MENTIONED I'M ONE OF THREE IN THE ROOM THAT HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE. I SERVED AS MAC CHAIR IN 2019 AFTER THE HURRICANE. AND I HAD THE FORTUNATE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN CONVERSATIONS. NOT HERE LOCALLY, BUT IN D. C. AND WAS WITH TOM.

WHEN CONVERSATIONS ARE HAD AND IF THIS WAS STATIC TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNITY ALONE, I MIGHT FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT. BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHER BASIS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE GUNNING FOR OUR MISSIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND KENDALL, EVEN WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT STANDING THERE, SAYING THAT IT'S COMING BACK. THERE WERE MANY MEETINGS WHERE OTHER BASES WERE PURSUING US. WE'RE PURSUING OUR MISSIONS. JOINT BASE, LANGLEY WAS PURSUING THE F 22 SQUADRON. THEY'RE COMING AFTER OUR MISSIONS. AND IF MY FEELING THIS IS DOUG, THIS IS WHY I'M GOING TO VOTE. THE WAY I'M GOING TO VOTE IS THIS CAN BE VIEWED AS A AND THEN SOMEBODY AT ANOTHER PLACE AND AN APPROPRIATIONS PERSON UP IN D C AS WELL KNOWN AS A CARDINAL BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THE MONEY. AND I'VE WATCHED AN APPROPRIATIONS CARDINAL BEFORE GO AFTER A MISSION AT ANOTHER BASE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BRING IT TO HIS BASE, AND HE GOT IT. I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT HAS ANY POTENTIAL TO JEOPARDIZE OUR MISSIONS. THEY'RE TOO IMPORTANT TO US THERE A THIRD OF OUR ECONOMY. THERE ARE ONES THAT WE DON'T SEE THAT OFTEN BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A BUNCH OF SPRING BREAKERS COMING AND OTHER THINGS COMING. ABOUT THE ONLY TIME I THINK ANYBODY EVER KNOWS ANYTHING IS GOING ON AT THE NAVY BASE IS IF THEY HAVE TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN THOMAS DRIVE, EITHER. THE IN THE MORNING OR IN THE EVENING WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING OR GOING OTHERWISE YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING OUT OF THAT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH DISAGREE WITH WHAT CLAIRE SAID. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MIXED USES AROUND THERE. THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THERE. I THINK THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD. I THINK GETTING THE R AND D IT WILL ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN THE NAVY BASE FROM BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO PURSUE MORE MISSIONS BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW THEM TO ACTUALLY CREATE SPACE ON BASEBALL, AND MAYBE POTENTIALLY MOVING SOME PEOPLE OFF OF BASE. AND SO IT IT ACTUALLY DOES BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY. BUT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER BASES AND OTHER MISSIONS TO TRY TO COME AND TAKE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT SOMETHING I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE DOING. I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE BENEFIT OR TO THE ULTIMATE BENEFIT OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE, AS I SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST $3.2 BILLION ANNUALLY THAT'S COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY. I FOR ONE, DO NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO AFFECT THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS, I THINK DIRECT UM, I THINK IT'S DIRECT 8000 JOBS ON BOTH BASES AND WITH INDIRECT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST 28,000 JOBS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK, AND I JUST CANNOT CANNOT TAKE THAT RISK. I'M SORRY. I JUST CAN'T DO IT. EVERY PART OF THEIR REST OF IT. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH WHATSOEVER.

THAT'S THAT'S IT. SURE, THE REBUTTAL. TWO THINGS. UH, FIRST THING IS REGARDING THE ITEMS THAT YOU ADDRESSED AND THE CHANGES ACTUALLY, THOSE ACTUALLY WERE ADDRESSED AND FIXED OUR FEBRUARY 8TH LETTER. MISS BLUE INFORMED ME. APPARENTLY, THEY JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO YOUR APPLICATION. SO THEY ARE CONSISTENT. OKAY, SO WE ARE YOU CAN PUT AN A PLUS BACK ON OUR SUBMITTAL. OF COURSE, UM, TAKE OFF OUR CHANGES. UM. I HEAR ALL THAT YOU SAID IN MY CLIENT HERE

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I DON'T WANT TO RUSH IT. I ALSO WANT TO DELAY IT ANY LONGER THAN THE DEVELOPER WANTS, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S VALUE IN TAKING WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY FROM THE BOARD IS DIRECTION AND MAKING SURE WE WORK THAT INTO A AND RESULT THAT WOULD YOU GET MORE FRUSTRATION TRIED TO TRIED TO NOT BE HERE TO DO JUST THIS. AND SO YOU KNOW, TO THEN, YOU KNOW, TELL US TO WAIT ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS. UM YEAH, THAT'S JUST ONE THING THAT I WOULD DO AS CHAIR WOULD TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY FOR YOU GUYS. I THINK THEY WILL NOW. YEAH LET'S JUST GET THAT. JOBS STUFF WORKED OUT AND WE'LL MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ANY MORE DELAYS THAN POSSIBLE. BELIEVE ME, I KNOW ALL ABOUT DELAYS BEING IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS MYSELF. SO IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. YEAH, SO LONG AS WE CAN MEET, JUST POST HASTE THAT THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO MISS THE NEXT NEXT MEETING. YOU WILL KNOW WHAT WE'RE STILL CONTEMPLATING OR WHAT? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING SO ABOVE THAT I HAD ALL THIS. UM AND I GOT ALL THE INFORMATION EXCEPT FOR THE LETTER FROM THE NAVY. UNTIL, UH , THIS MORNING ABOUT FIVE MINUTES BEFORE WE WALKED IN HERE, SO I DIDN'T HAVE THAT. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT

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AND THOSE ITEMS YOU TALKED TO. HE TALKED ABOUT WITH HAVING THE BUILDINGS FACE A CERTAIN DIRECTION. UM, NONE OF THAT STUFF IS LISTED HERE. SO WE WOULD WANT TO TRY AND IRON THOSE THINGS OUT. AS DETAILS IN WHATEVER PROPOSED D RI AMENDMENT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SO WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US ON MAY THE SECOND IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED WHAT AT THAT POINT I DON'T THINK I HAVE A GOOD ANSWER IT VERY WELL. COULD IT IS NOW. YEAH. I WOULD AGREE THAT I THINK WE NEED THE TWO WEEKS. LET'S MAKE SURE BECAUSE TAKING G OUT BASICALLY JUST SAYS THAT WE'RE GETTING NOTIFIED IF THEY MAKE THAT APPLICATION. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO AN AIRPORT. SO IF ALL THAT GOT CHANGED TO SEE FOR AN APPLICATION CAN BE MADE ONE C FOUR. IS THERE 100% AND YOU HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT NOW THAT REQUIRE US TO DO THAT. WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT, FOR 3.4 POINT NINE MIGRANTS AGREED TO ACCEPT IT, SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO OUR NEXT REPORT ME SECOND. THAT EMOTION INTO SECOND RECALL THE ROLE COMMISSIONER KAREL COMMISSIONER DOZER COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN HAM YES, MA'AM. YEAH, LET'S SEE. OKAY. LAST BUT NOT

[L.  PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED TO ITEMS WHICH THE COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY)]

THAT BEING SAID MISS CLARA. I TOOK AND, UM I MANAGED TO TAKE AND THE OTHER DAY I GOT ON FACEBOOK AND ELON MUSK WAS ON FACEBOOK. FACEBOOK DETERMINED THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I WAS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH FACEBOOK WAS AGAINST THEIR COMMUNITY STANDARDS, AND IT WAS THE GOOD THAT I'VE DONE FOR THE NATION THAT THEY WOULD NOT LET ME PUT ON THERE WITH MR ELON MUSK. DURING THE MEANTIME, I JUST SENT YOU THE INFORMATION WHERE ELLEN MUST STATED THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO POWER. 100 GIGAWATTS OF ELECTRICITY, WHICH I CAN DO ALL RIGHT, THAT BEING SAID. I HAVE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW, DUE TO THE FACT NOT BECAUSE I'M FACED WITH THE OVERWHELMING CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU. YOU STAND IN A MONUMENTAL POINT IN TIME IN HISTORY AS I WATCHED THE TIME TAKE DOWN THAT THE FACT THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE FORCED TO

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[O.  CHAIRMAN'S REPORT AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS]

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SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. TEACHER. IF YOU CAN SO HOW DISCLOSURE. UH UM. LIKE YOU SAID. POLLS ARE OPEN TODAY. PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE AND CHURCHES ARE OPEN THIS SUNDAY. PLEASE GO TO CHURCH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. ALRIGHT I'LL BASICALLY JUST THE SAME THING AND MUNICIPALS ARE PENALTIES TODAY IS THE VOTING DAY. UM VOTING IS WHAT MAKES ALL THIS HAPPEN. WHAT WE'RE UP HERE DOING TODAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE FOREVER. WHO WE WOULD

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