Aug 15, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. IT'S NOT A CLOCK. AUGUST. 15TH 2023, PLEASE CALL THE MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER, PIECE CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. UM THIS MORNING THE INVOCATION WE LED BY ASSOCIATE PASTOR CARMEN HARPER. WOODLAWN CHURCH AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ANTHONY WORKMEN AND VETERANS SERVICES.

WOULD PLEASE STAMP LET'S PRAY. FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER HERE. WE PRAY FOR THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WISDOM IN DECISION MAKING MAY ALL THAT IS DONE IN THIS PLACE BE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR AREA AND ITS CITIZENS. HELP US TO BE OF ONE MIND UNIFIED AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THE LEADING OF BAY COUNTY. WE ASK THAT YOU POUR OUT YOUR BLESSINGS ON THIS COUNCIL, THIS COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION IN THE GRAD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY? DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? THE AGENDA. NO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS FROM STAFF, MR CHAIRMAN ANYBODY ELSE? NO OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE

[E.  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]

COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER, PIECE CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. NEXT

[G.  PRESENTATIONS]

JOE HOLDEN IS DEDICATED INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SPENT MUCH OF HIS LIFE SERVING HIS COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS, HE HAS WORKED WITH THE BAY COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION, WHERE HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF THE PARK'S FACILITIES. DURING THIS TIME WITH THE DIVISION. JOE HAS PROVEN TO BE AN ASSET AND WAS EVENTUALLY TRANSFERRED TO WORK NIGHT SHIFT OPERATIONS AT THE COUNTY PEER HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE OF PARK MAINTENANCE, ENSURE THAT ALL VISITORS HAVE A SAFE AND ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE. BEFORE WORKING WITH BAY COUNTY, JOE SERVED AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF CEDAR GROVE FOR 20 YEARS. HIS EXPERIENCE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER PROVIDED HIM WITH THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE TO BE OVER, RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS ALSO ALLOWED HIM TO COMMUNICATE AND RELATE TO THOSE HE WORKED WITH AND SERVED IN HIS FREE TIME JOE ENJOYS KAYAKING WITH GROUPS OF RETIRED COWORKERS. HE ALSO LIKES TO TRAVEL AND WORK AROUND THE HOUSE. TAKING PRIDE IN MAINTAINING HIS HOME. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STICKING WITH US ALL THESE YEARS AND WORKING SO HARD. WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SO? ALL RIGHT. UM, LET'S SEE. NEXT WE HAVE 20 YEARS SERVICE AWARD FROM THE LANDFILL BARNEY. MACARTHUR, SH. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. COME ON DOWN, SIR. MR PEACE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU THIS MORNING WITH YOUR SERVICE AWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. BARNEY LLOYD AKASH HAS BEEN WITH THE SOLID WASTE DIVISION SINCE HE BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH BAY COUNTY BACK IN 2003. HE WAS INITIALLY HIRED IN A LABORING POSITION AS MAINTENANCE, TOO. SINCE THAT TIME. MR MAKASHOV, HARDWORKING AND SELF MOTIVATION HAVE ENABLED HIM TO DEVELOP THE SKILLS TO BECOME AN EXCELLENT EQUIPMENT OPERATOR AND HIS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HAVE ALLOWED HIM TO STOCKPILE A LARGE RIVER RESERVOIR OF KNOWLEDGE REGARDING LANDFILL OPERATIONS. MR MUKASEY IS OFTEN TO GO THE GO TO GUY FOR THE INFORMATION OR ADVICE. HE IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED AS A SOLID WASTE CREW LEADER AND MANAGES THE DAILY EFFORTS OF FIVE OTHER CREW MEMBERS. I WAS MOST IMPRESSED WHEN I DID MY FIRST, UH, TRAVEL AROUND TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OF WHAT YOU GUYS DO OUT THERE AND

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NEXT WE HAVE A 40 YEARS OF SERVICE AWARD. LIBRARY, MISS. PAMELA ROBERTS. COME ON UP, MISS PAM 40 YEARS. ALL THE SMILING FACES. IT IS AN HONOR TO RECOGNIZE MS PAMELA ROBBINS FOR 40 YEARS OF OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY, MISS. PAM BEGAN HER CAREER WITH THE BAY COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY ON AUGUST 12TH 1983 AND OVER THE YEARS HAS WORKED IN EVERY PUBLIC DEPARTMENT OF LIBRARY. HER WORK IN THE TECHNICAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT INCLUDES COMPILING AND REPORTING STATISTICS BUILDING AND TRAINING VOLUNTEERS . SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THE LIBRARY PREPARE FOR A RECENT COMPUTER SOFTWARE UPGRADE. SHE IS A VALUED MEMBER OF THE LIBRARY TEAM, AND WE WISH TO SINCERELY THANK HER FOR HER PAST AND FUTURE SERVICE TO BAY COUNTY. THANK YOU.

[H.  PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED ONLY TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA)]

GOOD MORNING. YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. JULIA RAINER 3 60 WATT, WHO RODE. I HAVE A SHORT LETTER TO READ 5 MAY OKAY? THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. WHICH ONE THIS IS. I BELIEVE ITEMS 14 AND 15 FOR BAY POINT. UM OKAY, IT'S A IT'S A 14. OKAY THOSE HAVEN'T STARTED YET, AND I'VE ALREADY LOST A HALF A MINUTE. OKAY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IS THOSE ITEMS ARE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE IN THAT YET. NO MA'AM, I BEG YOUR PARDON? THAT'S OKAY. I CAN BE PATIENT. GET YOUR FULL TIME. DON'T WORRY. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE? HERE. GOOD MORNING. DEREK THOMAS 1100 WEST 10TH STREET WAS HOPING WHEN YOU GET TO NUMBER EIGHT. IF YOU COULD BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC. IT'S LIKE 22 PAGES LONG. IT'S OVER. 700,002 YOU KNOW FOR TRANSPORTATION. UM I JUST CAN'T REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE OTHER THING I REALLY WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS MORNING ON NUMBER TWO. YOUR VOLUNTARY HOME BY FOR 350,000, A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS IS WHO'S COMING UP WITH THE VALUES FOR THESE. I KNOW IT WAS LAST TIME IT WAS SOLD IN 2016. IT WAS FOR 100 AND 40,000.

IT'S ASSESSED VALUE IS 128,000. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT, UH PRICES AND Z LOSE THE ONLY ONE THAT LISTED BETWEEN AND THE 500,000 AND THE REST OF THEM ARE BELOW 350. AND OR IN THE. YOU KNOW, MID 300 SIXTY'S THE LAST ONE ON YOUR AGENDA THAT'S IN NUMBER 15 THAT'S ASSESSED AT

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[I.  APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SUDDEN TO VOLUNTARY HOME BUYOUT PROVED PROPERTY APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE ACQUISITION OF 17 16. VICUNA CIRCLE. PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA UNDER THE HURRICANE SALLY HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM FOR $350,000, PLUS CLOSING FEES. AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN ALL CONTRACTS, AGREEMENTS, CLOSING DOCUMENTS AMENDED OR ADDITIONAL CLOSING, FEED COSTS AND ALL SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARCEL APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN RESPONSE TO MR THOMAS'S QUESTION OF $350,000 IS ARRIVED AT BY AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL. UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE ITEM THREE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS. DASH RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPOINT DANIEL DAVIDSON TO FILL THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD DISTRICT TWO SEAT , WHICH IS SET TO EXPIRE DECEMBER. 31 OF 2026. EMERGENCY SERVICES ITEM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY , SPECIAL COMMAND AND CONTROL MAP APPLICATION SOFTWARE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED STAFF TO PURCHASE A FIVE YEAR SOFTWARE LICENSED FROM CONVERGE ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $403,607.50 FOR IN TORONTO SPATIAL COMMAND AND CONTROL MAP APPLICATION. ITEM FIVE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE, GRANT ALLOCATION APPROVAL AND RATIFY CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD RATIFY THE CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE 51% LETTER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL. JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT. UH J. A G C PROGRAM FUNDS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS ITEM SIX RATIFICATION OF UTILITY EASEMENT FOR STAR AVENUE. RESILIENCY DESIGN PROJECTS. DASH RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD RATIFY THE UTILITY EASEMENT BETWEEN BAY COUNTY AND RICHARD WHITE FOR THE PURPOSES OF ASSISTING WITH THE STAR AVENUE RESILIENCY DESIGN PROJECT. UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ITEM. SEVEN FY 2023 U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, LOCAL GRANTS DEATH RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE FY 2023 USDOJ DIRECT BURNS LOCAL GRANT FOR $30,959 UNDER TRANSIT ITEM EIGHT. FY 2023 2024 INNOVATION SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AND CHAIRMAN SIGN AND EXECUTE THE FLORIDA COMMISSION FOR TRANSPORTATION, DISADVANTAGED, INNOVATIVE SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT. FOR 743,103. OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO THOSE HERO TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED VIS A SERVICES SUCH AS LYFT, OR UBER , AS OPPOSED TO THE TRADITIONAL DEMAND SERVICE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. WE'VE TRADITIONALLY USED THE UTILITY SERVICES ITEM. NINE. LIFT STATION PUMP REPLACEMENT PROJECT EQUIPMENT ONLY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD AWARD INVITATION TO BID 23-37 LIFT STATION PUMP REPLACEMENT PROJECT EQUIPMENT ONLY AND AUTHORIZED STAFF TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER THE AMOUNT OF $152,758 TO HYDRO SERVICES INC. THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MOTION MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER PIECE.

YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZER? YES MA'AM.

CHAIRMAN HAM? YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO REGULAR AGENDA. UM, NUMBER 19.

[10.  Hurricane Michael Revenue Refunding Bond, Series 2023]

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MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION IN THE SECOND CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZER YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER. PEACE COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER KAREL CHAIRMAN HIM. YES, MA'AM.

[11.  Ward Creek Phase 1B Plat Approval]

[12.  PZ 23-154 - Zone Change - 3414 A Street]

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THERE IS NO INCREASE IN DENSITY. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS ABOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WITH THE CONDITION AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. THERE WAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT LEADING UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. UH MRS COMMENTS WERE IN OPPOSITION. THE CONCERNS LIKE HEAVILY WITH THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO THE AREA. THERE WERE ALSO SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UM, WITH WITH DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HERE ANSWERING QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? NO OKAY. APPLICANT HERE APPLICANTS, REPRESENTATIVE. YES, SIR. YEAH BRAD HARRIS WITH KB ENGINEERING. LOCATED. UH PANEL CITY HERE.

WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU DO HAVE, I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THEM. READY ANY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? REPRESENTATIVE, I GUESS, YEAH. NO WE'RE NOT. NOT AT THE MOMENT IT RIGHT HERE. IN CASE YOU COME UP HERE BECAUSE WE'RE FIXING IT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND IF ANYTHING COMES UP, WE'LL LET YOU ADDRESS IT. OKAY, SO THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OR ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? DERRICK THOMAS 1100 WEST 10TH STREET 90. I SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT EVERYTHING I SAY IS TRUTHFUL AND THE BEST TECHNOLOGY ACCURATE. UH I DIDN'T. I HAVEN'T GONE OUT HERE AND LOOKED AT THIS ONE. I KNOW. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PANAMA CITY NORTH IS JUST APPROVED, UH, 700 UNITS. JUST NORTH OF THIS AND WHAT WAS OUR ONE AREA AND THEY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WERE CONCERNED THAT THE SCHOOLS ALREADY AT CAPACITY, AND THE ROADS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRAFFIC. THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO IN ADDITION TO I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT INCREASING THE DENSITY. THAT'S THAT, I THINK IS REALLY GREAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ALSO AN AREA. LIKE THE LAST PIECE THAT YOU SOLD OFF THAT WAS IN A VALLEY THAT BUILDING ON IT WOULD HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. IT'S NOTHING THERE AND I GUESS THAT, UH OTHER AREAS AROUND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AND MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED FOR A REASON. THE REASON MIGHT HAVE BEEN THAT THEY'RE LOW LYING AREAS AND WOULD REQUIRE A BUNCH OF DIRT OR DON'T HAVE A GOOD DRAINAGE, AND SO IF YOU DEVELOP THOSE LANDS THAT IT IS NEGATIVE EFFECT ON EVERYBODY ELSE'S, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE NOT INCREASING SIGNIFICANTLY THE DENSITY OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE ADDRESSING. THE RUNOFF THAT MIGHT BE CREATED BY DEVELOPING THAT THAT AREA THAT HAS NOTHING ON IT. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY WHO USED TO SECOND MR ALLEN. MR HARRIS. I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE FOUR AGAIN MR HARRIS, IF YOU. YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS IF YOU LIKE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT, YEAH, WELL, I THINK, UM, NUMBER ONE LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, TOO WAS TRAFFIC. UM THIS. WE'RE NOT INCREASING DENSITY SO OBVIOUSLY , THE TRAFFIC SHOULD BE KIND OF A 1 TO 1. AS FAR AS THE RUNOFF GOES AND THE DRAINAGE THERE THERE IS A CREEK IN THE BACK. OF THIS. THERE'S A FLOOD ZONE, WHICH RUN IMPACTING THERE'S WETLANDS, WHICH WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IMPACTING. UM MAYBE QUARTER ACRE IF THAT, BUT THERE WON'T BE MUCH PHIL BROUGHT IN. IT'S ON THE SIDE OF A HILL. ALSO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY DRAINS FROM EAST TO WEST. IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO DRAIN FROM EAST TO WEST THROUGH STORMWATER POND FOR TREATMENT AND THEN DISCHARGE TOWARDS THE CREEK AREA. SO THAT IT WON'T AFFECT ANYBODY ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ANYWAYS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THE BOARD HAVE ANY THAT'S GOOD. JUST ONE THING IN SOME OF THE LETTERS. THAT WE RECEIVED. FOLKS WERE SAYING THEY WERE HAVING SEWER BACKUPS. UM, LOW WATER PRESSURE. SO IF THEY COULD JUST CALL THE OFFICE, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THIS SHOULD NOT IMPACT IT AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT HERE IN THE OFFICE, THEN WE CAN'T CAN'T FIX IT. SO JUST GIVE US A CALL, AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. ANYBODY ELSE? YES RECENTLY. UH YOU MADE COMMENT THAT IT WAS ON THE SIDE OF A HILL RECENTLY. I'VE BEEN UP IN KENTUCKY. AND I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD HEELS DOWN HERE. YEAH JUST KIDDING. OKAY. UM, THE, UH

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MISSIONER CAROL? YES MA'AM? YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER PIECE? YES,

[13.  PZ22-148-149 - Small Scale Land Use & Zone Change - 12510/12516 Highway 231]

EXPORT A NONE FOR ME. FOR ME WITH THE PROPERTY AND SPOKEN AT ALL. WITH PROPERTY SPOKEN TO NO.

ONE. FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT. AND I HAVE NONE. OKAY, MR PORTER.

ENGLISH CHAIRMAN. ON JULY 18TH BIG COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 3.4 ACRES FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY TO SEE THREE A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LOW. SUCH A PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 TO 510 AND 1 TO 516 HIGHWAY 2 31. IN THE FOUNTAIN YOUNGSTOWN AREA. AT THE INCLUSION OF PUBLIC HEARING PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONE CHANGES CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY CONFERENCE PLAN IN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

HISTORICALLY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. IN ADDITION TO HAVING FRONTAGE ALONG HIGHWAY 31. COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALSO PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL, GIVEN THE EXISTING GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE DESIRED CHANGES CONSISTENT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. NO NEW DEVELOPMENT IS PRODUCED AT THIS TIME. IT DOES CURRENTLY HAVE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON SITE. IN ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL WOULD BE HELD TO ALL APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS. STAFF AGREES. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS ABOARD CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ISSUE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT. YOU KNOW WHEN LOOKING AT AERIAL AND DOING THE STUDY ON THIS THAT PROPERTY BELOW. THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO BE REZONED IS A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES. AND THERE'S A DWELLING UNIT ON IT. THERE'S A HOUSE ON IT. SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. CERTAINLY IF WE'RE GONNA IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND CHANGES TO COMMERCIAL THAT WE DO A PRIVACY FENCE. ON THE BORDER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL, THE NEW COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL OKAY? UM AS A COUNTER TO THAT JUST FOR CONVERSATIONAL PURPOSES, THIS PROPERTY SINCE THE EIGHTIES HAS BEEN USED COMMERCIALLY. IT WAS MISS DONE DURING THE TIME HE'S GOT A FENCE UP AROUND IT. BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN USED AS COMMERCIAL AND IT'S ALWAYS EXISTED AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO DO YOU STILL WANT TO FORCE HIM TO CHANGE? BECAUSE WE'VE NOT DONE THAT TO OTHERS WHEN THEY'VE HAD IT UP. YEAH AND I BELIEVE THAT ANY TIME WE RE ZONE, A

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WHETHER OR NOT WE PUT A FENCE UP OR NOT, WHETHER WE REQUIRE HIM TO DO IT. AND SO I WOULDN'T KNOW. JUST THAT THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS OWNED BY THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AS WELL. HE OWNS BOTH PIECES MOMENT. CLAIM OWNER IF HE CHOOSES TO, UM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON. THIS NEW NEWLY ZONED PROPERTY AND THEN CHOOSES TO DO A RESIDENTIAL PROP. DO SOMETHING WOULD RATHER RESIDENTIAL. ON HIS OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY. I THINK WE STILL NEED A FENCE IN MY OPINION.

OKAY? I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD AGREES WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND. I THINK WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO CERTAINLY GIVE PROTECTION TO THOSE IN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING NOW OR IF HE PROPOSED A NEW DEVELOPMENT, HE WOULD PUT THE FENCE ON. OR BECAUSE HE'S GETTING HE'S BASICALLY CORRECTING. IT'S CORRECT AND WHAT HE'S DOING, BUT. IF HE'S CORRECTING HIS ZONING THERE. UM, HE'S CORRECTING OUR ERROR. WELL, I'VE I'VE RUN INTO SITUATIONS IN THE PAST, WHERE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA OF COME BACK AND SAID, WHY DOES AND I WOULD SAY FOR CEDAR GROVE, FOR EXAMPLE. LOOK AT THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THEY COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WHY DOES THIS MAKE THIS BUSINESS DOES NOT HAVE A FENCE UP? WE HAVE NO AVENUE TO MAKE HIM PUT A FENCE UP BECAUSE IT'S PAST THAT THRESHOLD. SO ANYTIME THAT THRESHOLD COMES UP RATHER THAN PASSION, THE SITUATION UP AND SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. I JUST THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO PROTECT ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO HAVE HIM PUT UP THE PRIVACY FENCE. NOW, IF. YOU KNOW, IF AND I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT IF HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE HIS BUSINESS THERE IF HE'S RUNNING THE BUSINESS NOW BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT IT ON THE AREA IF HE'S RUNNING THE BUSINESS NOW. I STILL THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE OF THE PROTECTION OF RESIDENTIAL SEPARATION. NOW, IF . I GUESS THE ONLY THING I'M GOING OUT, SO LET'S SEE IF IT WERE VACANT COMMERCIAL PIECE AND HE'S JUST GETTING ZONING READY FOR ONE DAY TO WIN DEVELOPMENT WOULD IS IT THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT NOW IT'S COMMERCIAL HAS TO HAVE A FENCE TO SEPARATE IT. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON. THAT'S ONCE THE ACTIVITY STARTS, I THINK YOU SHOULD. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I THINK ONCE YOU ONCE HE DOES THE DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS JUST KIND OF CORRECTING GRANDFATHER STATUS, IN MY OPINION, BUT THAT'S WHY WE ALL HAVE ONE SO DID. THE DOG. DID YOU SAY THERE'S ALREADY A FENCE UP? YES THERE'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY, OKAY? NOT NOT A PRIVACY FENCE. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. IS IT COVERED IN GROWTH? LIKE ONE WE HAD BEFORE WE EVENTUALLY WE LET IT GO BECAUSE IT NO, MA'AM. HE KEEPS HIS PROPERTY CLEANING. YEAH FOR SURE IF HE DOES A NEW DEVELOPMENT OR EXPANSION, THEN THAT TRIGGERS THE DEVELOPMENT, ER CRITERIA OF HAVING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND FENCING. SO SETBACKS ALSO, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT FAR WITH IT. THE VISION GOT SOMETHING IN THE REAL PROPERTY SETBACK. AND THAT WOULD ONLY APPLY IF HE'S DOING AN EXPANSION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EXPAND A NONCONFORMING USE. BUT FOR NOW, HE WOULD BE JUST WE'RE JUST TAKING TO ZONING TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S COMPLYING. NOT NO, IT WOULD BE CONFORMING. THERE WAS SOMETHING . 50% RULE KICKS IN JOHNNY'S NOT COMPLETELY YOU CAN'T BUILD BY. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE REASON . MR THURMAN, THE OWNER. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THE FEES WERE WAIVED. FOR THE LANDING ZONE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL USE. HE WANTED TO INCLUDE THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. IN THIS BUT SEEING HOW IS IT? HAS ALWAYS BEEN A RESIDENTIAL USE. HE THEN WHAT I HAD TO PAY THE APPLICATION FEES SO THAT'S PRIMARILY THEY THE REASON WHY BOTH PROPERTIES ARE NOT INCLUDED WITH REQUEST. I GOT YOU. ABOUT TO CHANGE. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IT INTO CONFORMING. SO IN CASE THERE IS A LOSS OR CASUALTY, THEN HE WOULDN'T IT WOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONE BE ABLE TO BUILD IT BACK. OKAY? OH AND I WOULD SAY THAT IN THIS SITUATION IF THERE'S ANY INCREASE TO HIS ACTIVITY THERE AS FAR AS IF HE'S IF HE'S IF HE HAS ACTIVITY GOING ON. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. HE'S COME IN, AND HE JUST WANTS TO STRAIGHTEN OUT HIS OWNING THAT WE'VE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO DO. NO FEE. UM BECAUSE IT WAS OVERLOOKED IN THE

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WE'RE JUST DOING IT ON PAPER. LEAVE IT, AS IS YEP. YEAH YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THAT'S EMOTIONAL. SECOND, THAT WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC UNION, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. OKAY? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD. OKAY.

SEE YOU. NONE WILL CLOSE SUPPORT. AND WERE HANDED BACK OVER TO THE BOARD THAT AS EMOTION ALRIGHT PROMOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN.

[14.  PZ 23-012 - Large Scale Amendment - Bay Point DRI - 4701 Bay Point Road]

THIS BOARD CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING. AND VOTED TO TRANSMIT THESE AMENDMENTS UP TO THE EO.

THE BOARD VOTED TO TRANSMIT, UH , THIS AMENDMENT WITH VERY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT LIMITED THE ALLOWABLE USES AND THAT THESE USES BE ADDRESSED WITH THE APPROVAL OF A FUTURE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. UM THAT WAS SENT OUT TO D E O FOR THEIR REVIEW, AND IT'S COME BACK NOW, AND THEY'VE HAD NO OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS. UM PROPOSED AMENDMENT REMOVES THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE DIGNITIES DESIGNATION FOR THE PORTION OF AREA 18 AND THE APPROVED MAP. H OF THE A. D. A THE AMENDMENT ALSO UPDATES THE COMPANY TABLES WITH MATT BASE TO SHOW THE REPLACEMENT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED BY THE AMENDMENTS. RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DENSITY TABLE IS AMENDED TO SHOW THE 136 ACRE PORTION OF MAP H TO ALLOW 85 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. MAP H IS ALSO AMENDED TO ALLOW UP TO 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON RESIDENTIAL USE, WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF TWO STORIES. UH AS YOU CAN SEE, ON THE ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU. AH! THE FUTURE LAND USE AREA. THERE'S MOSTLY RECREATION IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING. UM. THE AREA OF MAGNOLIA BEETROOT AND DEALT WITH LANE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR REDS SERVING PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF BAY POINT THAT WOULD BEACH AND MAGNOLIA BEACH. AND THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF THE DAY D R I A D A. AND THE AMOUNT OF NON RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS LIMITED TO LESS THAN SIX ACRES OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES. THE BOARD CAME UP WITH A SPECIFIC LIST OF CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS REVIEWED WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE HAD NO PROPOSED CHANGES. NOR DID THE EO WITH THOSE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY THE BOARD DURING THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING IN MAY. WE RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE D R I AND THE MAP. I'M HAPPY TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? FOR STAFF COMMENTS. SO YOU GUYS PETER? MARK ON THOSE . YOU'VE GOT THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THERE. UM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED DURING THOSE MEETINGS BACK AND MARCH WAS THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, BUT THAT'S NOT LISTED IN THE CONDITIONS. UM WE AS ACCOUNTING, WE DON'T HAVE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE ONLY IN OUR SENIOR CORRIDORS, BUT THIS AREA IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO UM, I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER THOSE. I GUESS WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT THAT COULD BE A CONDITION. SURE SURE. SO AS WE HAVE LISTED ON ITEM THREE IN THOSE CONDITIONS, SPEAKING TO THE PRD APPROVAL THAT P U D WOULD COME BEFORE

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JUST LIKE YOUR C FOUR REQUIRES. UM REGARDLESS INTERESTED IF THEY FORMED TOGETHER WITH Y'ALL SOME TYPE OF A COMMITTEE FOR THAT. I MEAN, IS THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN ANSWER STANDING RIGHT HERE, AND AS I SAID, THERE'S REALLY NOT A MECHANISM. UH THE ONE WOULD MAKE MOST SENSE WOULD BE THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE MASTER ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE

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SO I CAN MAKE THAT MAKE THAT COMMITMENT FOR YOU, BUT I CAN'T GO TO MEAN TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY BY JOINING WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THEIR IDEAS ABOUT THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILD INVESTMENT. THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS THE A LOT OF THE PUSHBACK. IF YOU COULD MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT, AND HE WOULD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BAY POINT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OVER THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. UM NOT JUST THE COMMERCIAL THAT THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR THE REMAINDER OF IT, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THAT. UM. BUT THEY'RE JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. CERTAINLY YEAH. YOU ASK ME AS MANY AS YOU WANT THE HOUSES THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PART IS THAT WITHIN ANY OF THE BAY POINT MASTER. NONE OF THAT NONE OF THAT WAS WITHIN IT EITHER. ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK YOU'RE STILL DOING OKAY. GO RIGHT AHEAD. CONTINUING THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU. JUST THE OFFER. I'D ASK FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, AS IT'S STATED, IF YOU WANT US TO ADD, UM, THE REQUIREMENT TO BUILD IT AS A AS A OFFICE STRUCTURE SO THAT IT MATCHES THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO AGREE TO THAT. I JUST CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ENTITY THAT DOESN'T EXIST. DEGREE TO APPROVE SOMETHING, BUT, MR CHAIRMAN, I GUESS WHEN WE AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AFTER YOU GET THROUGH THESE STAGES TODAY, IF IT GETS APPROVED, YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE P U D, WHICH WE ALL KNOW DURING THAT PHD PROCESS.

MAYBE THAT'S WHERE SOME LANGUAGE GETS ADDED IN THERE ABOUT THE STYLE AND CHARACTER AND FACADES AND WE KIND OF GOT A TREAT. LIKE I'VE SEEN IT CALLED ONE. THIS IS THE GATEWAY TO BAY POINT. THIS IS A PREMIER NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PUT TRADITIONAL C FOUR IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THE COLLEAGUE, THEIR METAL BUILDINGS. THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST NOT THE GATEWAY TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO, BUT I THINK I THINK ALL THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE P U D STAGE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN TIED TO THIS. BUT SOMEHOW I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE THAT IF THIS THING GETS APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT IT'S GOT TO FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NO IT'S YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. SO I KNOW YOU'RE I SAY THAT AND I'M NOT GONNA I'M NOT GONNA MAKE I'LL SAY THIS. COMMISSIONER MCKELVEY IS A BAD EXAMPLE. MCKELVEY WAS EXISTING WHEN C FOUR WAS CREATED, AND SO IT MADE SENSE TO GO IN AND REZONE THOSE TWO C FOUR. BUT C FOUR AFTER THAT, OUTSIDE OF IT IS REQUIRED TO, UM CONFORM WITH YOUR CODE, WHICH DOES HAVE THAT ALBEIT BROAD ACT AESTHETIC REQUIREMENT REQUIRES IT TO LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING. AND CERTAINLY I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THE TIME TO ADDRESS IT WILL BE AT THE P U D STAGE BECAUSE WE'LL BE MORE GRANULAR THAN THIS IS REALLY THE OVERALL BROAD PART OF IT. UM I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT TO SAY THERE'S AN ENTITY TO DO THAT, BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE THOSE, UM CHANGES AND THE OTHER PART OF THAT, TOO, IS I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE P D REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE PART THAT IS ALONG MAGNOLIA DELLWOOD . THE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO WILL BE ISN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE A P U D THAT'S IT'S ON ITS OWN. IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING TO IAN. IT WAS JUST YES, IT'S JUST LIMITED TO THE TO THE RESIDENTIAL. ONCE APPROVED, CAN BEGIN THE COMMERCIAL REQUIRE THE P U. D AS WE AGREED TO AT THE APRIL OR MAY 2ND. MEETING AND WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLING THEMSELVES TODAY, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OR COMMERCE OR WHATEVER IT IS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OUR RESERVE FOR REBUTTAL. IF NECESSARY. THANK YOU. OKAY? UM, FLORIDA PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, YEAH, MR PUTIN. UH, IF WE WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE PD, SO THAT THERE IS AN ENTITY THAT AT LEAST IS PRESENTED WITH THOSE FACADES OF BUILDINGS. YOU COULD EASILY ADD THAT INTO THAT. P U D LANGUAGE IN ITEM THREE. UM THE REASON I THINK STAFF BALKED AT THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE WAS BECAUSE IT WAS PUTTING THE ONUS ON STAFF TO REVIEW THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS OR WHATEVER WAS BUILT. WE'RE NOT DESIGNERS OR REVIEWERS , AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. WHAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT IN A PUBLIC HEARING? YOU COULD DO

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COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. HAVING SERVED FOR FOUR YEARS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IN PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE WE VOTED ON PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS. I CAN APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THE IMPORTANCE OF YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND REVIEWING THE CASES. THAT COME BEFORE YOU. YOUR MISSION STATEMENT SITES YOUR GOALS. EFFECT AND ORDERLY AND EFFICIENT GROWTH PATTERN THAT PROMOTES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND ENHANCES THE ENVIRONMENT. QUALITY OF LIFE. AND AESTHETICS. OUR FAMILY HAS LIVED IN PANAMA CITY SINCE 1968. ALL FOUR OF US CHILDREN WENT TO BAY HIGH SCHOOL AND GULF COAST STATE COLLEGE BEFORE GOING ON TO FURTHER EDUCATION AND CAREERS ELSEWHERE. MY MOTHER WAS HIRED BY THE GRAND LAGOON COMPANY IN 1970 WAS COMPTROLLER FOR OVER 10 YEARS WHILE BAY POINT WAS PLANNED AND DEVELOPED. AFTER SHE MOVED INTO ASSISTED LIVING ON MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD AND 2011. WE BOUGHT A PLACE CLOSE TO HER WHERE WE COULD VISIT REGULARLY AND SOLD HER HOUSE IN TOWN.

HURRICANE MICHAEL DESTROYED HER LONGTIME HOME A YEAR AFTER SHE DIED. MY SIBLINGS AND I STILL OWN THE NEW FAMILY HOUSE NEARBY. LAST YEAR, I MOVED BACK TO THE AREA AND IN SEPTEMBER 2022. I BOUGHT MY OWN HOUSE AT BAY POINT. BUILT IN 1982 AND RENOVATED AFTER THE HURRICANE.

MY BACKYARD LOOKS OUT OVER THE WEST END OF THE GOLF COURSE. WHICH I THOUGHT WAS UNDER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. TWO MONTHS LATER, BULLDOZER SHOWED UP TO LEVEL THE GROUND. AND A NEIGHBOR TOLD ME THAT THE NEW OWNER OF THE GOLF COURSE INTENDED TO CONSTRUCT CANALS THERE. AND CONNECT THEM TO THE GULF. WHICH SEEMED AN ENORMOUS UNDERTAKING. AS WITH OTHERS, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WILL HAVE ON OUR ENVIRONMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THE REVISED ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 85 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND 42 STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. ALONG MAGNOLIA BEACH AND ELWOOD BEACH ROADS. DESIGNATES. THE REMAINING GOLF COURSE, AS QUOTE POTENTIAL GREEN SPACE. END QUOTE. PERHAPS THE MOST CRITICAL IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. WILL BE THE LOSS. MOST OF OUR OPEN SPACE. I IMPLORE THE BAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO USE THE POWER VESTED IN YOU TO PROTECT THAT REMAINING OPEN GREEN SPACE. OF WHICH. I JUST HAVEN'T ANOTHER THREE SENTENCES. OF WHICH THERE IS PRECIOUS LITTLE. INTO PERPETUITY BY RETAINING ITS CURRENT CVS ARE ZONING FOR CONSERVATION AND RECREATION. PRESERVING THAT REMAINING OPEN GREEN SPACE WOULD MEET YOUR GOALS OF BALANCING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH ENHANCING THE ENVIRONMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE AND AESTHETICS. I URGE YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ENSURE THIS IS THE LAST SENTENCE. I URGE YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO ENSURE THAT THAT LAST REMAINING OPEN LAND IN BAY POINT WILL BE PROTECTED AND PRESERVED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS . THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, TIME AND CONSIDERATION. SINCERELY I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUBMIT THIS SIGNED COPY OF MY LETTER FOR THE RECORD IF YOU'D LIKE TO ACCEPT IT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. DAMON ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. JOHN BOZARTH. 915 KOBE DRIVE IN BAY POINT. IS IT THREE MINUTES OR FIVE MINUTES? BECAUSE YOU'RE WHAT CHANGED? YOU GOTTA

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THE REST OF IT, I THINK IS MORE PROPERLY ADDRESSED IN WHAT YOU'VE GOT COMING UP NEXT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? YES, MA'AM. THEY MAY NOT JUST FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING. I'M JEANNIE RUTHERFORD AT 24 08 MAGNOLIA DRIVE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN A BIG COUNTY RESIDENT FOR 40 YEARS, AND MY HUSBAND WAS ACTUALLY BORN AND RAISED HERE, AND, UM, WE DO LIVE RIGHT OFF OF MY MAGNOLIA BEACH THERE NOW FOR 11 YEARS AND I JUST HAVE THREE POINTS. I WANT TO MAKE VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER BEFORE MAKING YOUR FINAL DECISION TODAY ABOUT THE ZONING CHANGE. UM ESPECIALLY THE C FOUR. RESULT ZONING CHANGE THE RESULT, RESEARCH AND DESIGN. UM AS THAT BRIDGE CLASSIFICATION AS IT IS, IT IS THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE FIRST POINT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IS THE PLEASED, REALLY CONSIDER THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE INGRESS AND THE EGRESS OF IN THE TRAFFIC THERE ON MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD. UM, FOR THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS, IT IS OUR ONLY WAY IN AND OUR ONLY WAY OUT OF ANY ROAD AT ALL. UM SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ACTUALLY JUST CONSIDER THAT IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS C FOUR RESEARCH AND DESIGN ZONING OR ANY REALLY, UM, FOR THAT 120 ACRE PLANT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY PUTS, UH, THESE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF, MY FAMILY IN ADDITIONAL , UM, HARM'S WAY, REALLY, TO TRY TO EGRESS IF WE HAD TO GET OUT. IT JUST INCREASES THE TRAFFIC SIGNIFICANTLY. AND ALTHOUGH BAY POINT RESIDENTS AS A AS YOU KNOW , A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION, THEY DO HAVE AN EXIT ONTO THOMAS DRIVE WHERE THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS DO NOT. SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER THAT UM AND YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT NOT ONLY IS IT JUST THE RESIDENTS ON THAT AREA BUT ALSO MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD SERVICES, PELICAN BAY MAGNOLIA POINTE. RESIDENTS OF BEAR POINT DRIVE. WATER HAVEN PRESERVES SANCTUARY, NOT TO MENTION ALL THOSE SMALLER STREETS AT THE END A NET.

CATHERINE UM LORRAINE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, ALL DOWN JAN COOLEY. DELLWOOD ALL AROUND THE CORNER TO MARRIOTT DRIVE, AND SO ON. THE SECOND POINT I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS, UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DENYING THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. ALL IN THAT AREA, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, BESIDES THE GOLF COURSE AND THE BAY POINT AREA THERE. WE DO. WE ALREADY HAVE A REGULATION ON ON THE, UM, THE BAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION THAT IS INTENDED FOR THAT LOW DENSITY COMMERCIAL. IF IT HAS TO HAPPEN , I WOULD AT LEAST ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT TO NOT DO THE C FOUR REGULATION OR THE ZONING BUT TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE C ONE BECAUSE IT IS INTENDED FOR LOW DENSITY FOR NEIGHBORHOODS JUST LIKE OURS. AND AGAIN, THE C FOUR WILL BE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR ANY OTHER AREAS THERE THAT WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW WHICH WOULD ALLOW AND I'LL FINISH VERY QUICKLY THAT C FOUR WILL ALLOW FOR USES, WHICH INCLUDES C ONE C TWO C THREE THAT RESEARCH AND DESIGNING ZONING, INCLUDING THE RESEARCH LABORATORIES AS IT IS MENTIONED, AND SO ON. AND AGAIN PLEASE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND MY COMMENTS AS I'M IN THE REAL

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IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. UH, I'M TOM DUGAN. 2315 MAGNOLIA DRIVE. I AM A DEVELOPER. I DEVELOPED OVER HALF A DOZEN TO MAYBE, UH, 16 OR SO DOESN'T COMMUNITIES SUCH AS BAY POINT? IN SOUTH FLORIDA HILTON HEAD IN DALLAS. I UNDERSTAND SO I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THIS BOARD AND OR THE STAFF. QUESTION ONE. IT WAS A P U D D R I P D WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO CALL WITH INTENTIONAL DESIGN AND DESIGN PARAMETERS BY SOME ENGINEER SOMEWHERE. MEANING UTILITIES, STREETS, TRAFFIC SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH. SO MY QUESTION NOW IS TRAFFIC. WE ALL KNOW THE COMMERCIAL GENERATES MORE TRAFFIC THAN RESIDENTIAL.

WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE STACKING ON THE RESIDENTIAL GATES FOR BAY POINT. WHO'S GONNA WHO'S GONNA PAY THE INCREASE? THOSE IS THE LANDOWNER GONNA GIVE MORE LAND TO THE COMMUNITY TO WIDEN THE STACKING WHAT ABOUT THE BACK GATE OFF THOMAS DRIVE? WHO'S GONNA WIDEN THAT. WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE FOUR LANES DOWN AT WINN DIXIE TO PUBLIX AND MY NECK BEFORE LANES AS YOU GO UP TO THE COMMERCIAL. AS IT GOES TOWARDS THE FIRST GATE AT BAY POINT. WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE DOWNSTREAM UTILITIES. ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT? IS PANAMA CITY BEACH GONNA PAY FOR IT FOR THE RESIDENTS? DOWNSTREAM THIS IS THE SEWER LEAVES THE COMMUNITY.

IT GOES TO LIFT STATIONS DOWNSTREAM. YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH IN A PARK. WHO'S GOING TO UPGRADE THOSE PIPES WHO'S PAYING FOR OURS? WHO'S TAKING CARE OF THE SCHOOLS. HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO THE SCHOOLS TO FIND OUT? DO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO UPGRADE? WATER. POWER AND SO FORTH. THAT'S NOT BIG UPGRADE THAT'S EASILY DONE. IT'S SEWER AND ITS TRAFFIC. YOU'RE GOING TO GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC WITH RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL TAKES LESS TRAFFIC. THEN COMMERCIAL.

AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. SO THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ON MAGNOLIA BEACH DRIVE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. AND THE PEOPLE IN BAY POINT HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE SAME CURRENTLY DESIGNED GATE TO GET ONTO THIS TRAP MAGNOLIA BEACH DRIVE MORE TRAFFIC. HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT THROUGH THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHO'S WHO WE GONNA EMINENT DOMAIN TO GET MORE ROPE TO WIDEN THE ROAD FROM TWO LANES TO THE FOUR LANE, TWO MATCHING WHEN DIXIE AND PANTS AND PUBLIC AREA ARE YOU IS BAKED, BAKED ANY PAIN FOR THAT OR THE HOMEOWNERS SPEND FOR THEM. SCHOOLS ONCE AGAIN SCHOOLS. WHO'S PAYING THE INCREASE. THE SCHOOL IS KIDS COME OUT OF THESE ADDITIONAL HOMES THAT COULD BE IN THE PROPOSED ARE WE. FINAL NOTE WITHOUT BELABOR IN MY TWO MINUTES HERE. THERE IS A PREFERRED HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PEOPLE WHO OWN GOLF MEMBERSHIPS. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKED OUT YET. THAT MAY VERY WELL END UP IN A LAWSUIT. THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO FULL GOLF COURSES RUN RUNNING UNDER THE D R. I THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYBODY DON'T? YES, MA'AM. COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I'M PATRICIA MALLOY. I LIVE AT 4803 STILL LOT OF LANE THAT'S IN MAGNOLIA BEACH CLUB AND I'LL BE REALLY BRIEF. I JUST WANT TO DITTO THE GENTLEMAN OF CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. CURRENTLY MAGNOLIA BE TRUE. JUST 45 MILES AN HOUR. UM I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE THE NUMBERS OF CARS THAT WILL BE PROJECTED HAVING COMMERCIAL INCREASING COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. UM CURRENTLY I TRIED TO WALK NOW THAT YOU KNOW THEY TRAFFIC IS ALREADY INCREASED WITH THE INCREASED OF HOMES. UM. IT'S BECOMING JUST A BUMMER TO JUST TRY TO CROSS THE STREET TO GO ON THE MAGNOLIA BEACH, THE BAY POINT. WALKING GOLF TRAIL. UM AND IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD BECAUSE OF SAFETY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, UH YOU KNOW THIS MAY BE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT TO 30 MILES AN HOUR.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? GOING ONCE. OKAY. SEE YOU. NONE WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR. UM YES, MR

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BASICALLY IT LIMITED IT TO FOUR BUILDINGS. 25,000 SQUARE FEET. WE COULD HAVE DONE 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL ON THAT LIMIT THE HEIGHT AND ALSO TO ADDRESS THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDINGS SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT BACK UP TO THE RESIDENTS ALONG THE AND THEY POINT THERE THAT WOULD HAVE FENCING AND WHATNOT ALONG BACK, BEAT THEM BACK BEACH MAGNOLIA IN DELLWOOD, SO MANY OF THOSE ISSUES WERE ADDRESSED WITHIN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE CAME TO. AT THE MAY 2ND MEETING. UM REGARDING THE, UM. BAY POINT IS, IS NOT THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. THEY POINT WAS DESIGNED AS A RESORT. IT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL WITHIN IT.

THE IDEA WAS THAT YOU WOULD INDEED HAVE SELF CONTAINED KIND OF ACTIVITIES AND USES WITHIN IT. THE PROPOSED USES WITH REGARD TO THE COMMERCIAL PART. I WON'T CALL IT C ONE OR C FOUR.

I'LL CALL IT THE COMMERCIAL PART AS WE HAVE SUBMITTED AND IN THE CONDITIONS THAT WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ARE THOSE THAT ARE INTENDED TO BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE RESORT RESORT, INCLUDING FOLKS WHO MAY WANT TO HAVE OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE THAT ARE EMPLOYED BY OR HAVE CONTRACTS WITH ETCETERA WITH THE NAVY BASE . AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON WE ASKED TO HAVE SOME OF THAT, UM, C FOUR BEING THE RESEARCH AND DESIGN WHICH WE WILL ADDRESS REGARDING, UM AESTHETICS AND WHATNOT AT THE P U D LEVEL. UM. THE EXCUSE ME, THE OTHER MATTERS THAT WERE THAT WERE DISCUSSED. LIKE I SAID IT REALLY AT THE ZONING HEARING IN JUST A MOMENT WILL ADDRESS THOSE IN A SECOND. WE ASK THAT YOU, UH PASS THE LAND USE AMENDMENT AS IT WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, AND I GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE REMAINING ISSUES AT THE ZONING STAGE OF THE P U. D STAGE REGARDING THE MASTER ASSOCIATION. UM IF IAN, IF YOU'RE PROPOSITION WAS THAT WE INCLUDE WITHIN THE P U D REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE COME TO THAT STAGE THAT WE ADDRESS AESTHETICS. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. I JUST DON'T WANT THERE'S JUST NOT AN ENTITY FOR US TO GO. GRAB ONTO TO DO AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO SAY THAT AT THE P U D LEVEL WILL WILL ADDRESS THE AESTHETICS OF IT AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A PLAN THAT SHOWS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

SO IF YOU IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S NECESSARY TO ADD TO THIS PARTICULAR THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE ALREADY BEFORE YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. ANYTHING FOR MR BERMAN? YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WILLIAM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR INTERNAL QUESTION, OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. EVERYTHING'S CLOSED. YEAH. YEAH, IT IS. YES SO THE QUESTION WAS ASKED DURING THE COMMENT PERIOD ABOUT. YOU KNOW THE EXTRA TRAFFIC, THE UTILITIES, THE SEWER. THE WATER THE YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT AMENITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH AN INCREASE IN POPULATION HERE. COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT AND TALK TO THAT? SURE, SO MOST OF THOSE ISSUES ARE ALL, UH, SPECIFICALLY SCHOOLS, WATER, SEWER UTILITIES , TRAFFIC. ALL THOSE ARE ADDRESSED. WE CALL OUR DEVELOPMENT ORDER STAGE. SO AS SOON AS SOMEONE COMES IN TO TRY AND DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT'S ALL BEING REVIEWED AND ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME. SO COULD THE COMMUNITY LOOK DIFFERENT IN TWO YEARS WHEN PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMES IN? YES IT WOULD. WE WOULD REVIEW IT AT THAT TIME FOR TWO TO SEE WHAT THOSE LEVELS WERE WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN 10 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY SO THAT TIME UM YOU KNOW IF A NUMBER OF NUMBER OF HOUSES ARE PROPOSED AND ARE BEING BUILT. UM YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE THAT WHERE THE ROAD CAPACITY WILL CONTAIN OR WHERE THAT THE CHILDREN CONTAIN IT. THAT POINT. WHAT DO YOU DO SO AFTER THE COMMUNITY CAN'T GO FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO FACILITIES TO SERVE IT OR THE DEVELOPER CAN PAY TO UPGRADE THOSE FACILITIES? FIRST ALL

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WELL THEN, IF THAT'S ALREADY IN YOUR PLAN THAN WHEN, AS YOU FIX THAT WOULD ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AND CONCERNS. BUT IF NOT IF THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT, THEN YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD HANDLE IT. THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION, SO THE STORM WERE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE. THERE NOW, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ADDRESSED NOW? OR THEIR ADDRESS? SO STORE STORMWATER IS ADDRESSED IN THIS P U. D. AS PART OF OUR AM SORRY AS PART OF THESE CONDITIONS, SPECIFICALLY, IT TALKS ABOUT THE OVERALL BAY POINT D. R A DRAINAGE SYSTEM RELIES ON STORM WATER FACILITIES INCORPORATE INTO THE GOLF COURSE . OF COURSE, ANY CHANGES TO THE GOLF COURSE NEEDS TO ADDRESS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE ISSUES. SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT FIGURE OUT WHO WHO TELLS US WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE. DO THEY HAVE AN ENGINEER? THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE YES. STORM WATER PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BIG PARTS TO PUMP THE WATER OUT OF THERE DURING STORMS IS IT'S A MESS. YEAH REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS GOING TO HELP REPAIR THAT MESS? SUPPORT OF THIS PLAN, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO START THIS? THIS SPECIFIC STORMWATER ISSUES SPEAKING TO ANY ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, SO ANY ANYTHING EXISTING OUT THERE? THIS WOULDN'T BE PROPOSING TO CHANGE. BUT I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU ANY TIME THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT ORDER. IT IS REQUIRED TO BE AGREED WITH STORM WATER ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT AFFECTING. SO ANY PART THAT GOLF COURSE. BEING USED FOR STORMWATER, ROBERT.

MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME SOME OF THE SOME OF THE GOLF COURSE I GUESS IT'S BEING USED AS PART OF STORMWATER PROCESS SO ONCE IT'S BUILT ON YEAH, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED FOR SURE. YEAH, SURE THAT WAS BEING ADDRESSED IN THIS OR YES. AS PART OF THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS IT WHEN THEY WHEN I EXPLAINED THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ALL THAT NEW ADDED IMPERVIOUS TO GO AHEAD TO BE ANALYZED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, UM THERE COULD BE EXPANSION OF LEGS. THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL LAKES PONDS RETENTION FACILITY EXFILTRATION, ALL KINDS OF WHATEVER THEIR ENGINEER, DECIDED MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH OWNERS THAT POINT AND THE PRESERVED MAGNOLIA BEACH. ALL OF THOSE VOTES, UM, THAT WERE THERE DURING THE COURSE DURING THE HURRICANE, AND NOT NOT JUST THE HURRICANE, BUT OTHER EVENTS. HEAVY RAIN EVENTS AND HAVING TO PUT BIG PUMPS OUT THERE AND MOVE THE WATER AROUND, AND IT'S UH IT'S QUITE A QUITE A SITUATION. GET DRESSED. AND IF NAILS TIME THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, WE GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNS. I JUST STILL THINK WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ARCHITECTURE REVIEW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MECHANISM IS GOING TO WORK. BUT WE HAVE ARCHITECTURAL. I MEAN, WILD HEARINGS GOT VERY STRICT. ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS POINTS. I THINK THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A POINT OR A NEW ONE IS CREATED FOR THIS. I THINK THAT SHOWS GOOD FAITH ON THE DEVELOPER TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT HE IS GOING TO BUILD A YOU KNOW, I HAVE A HIGH END PRODUCT. OR MAYBE HE DOESN'T DEVELOP IT. MAYBE AFTER IF THIS GETS APPROVED THAT ALL THIS GETS SOLD, SO WE GOTTA HOLD SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THE FIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW TO PROTECT. THERE'S THIS IS NOT JUST A POINT . THIS IS GOING TO ENTER FROM OUTSIDE THE GATES ARE NOT GOING TO COME THROUGH A POINT TO GET IN HERE, SO THIS WILL BE OPEN TO EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THAT MAP BEHIND US EVERYTHING THAT'S IN YELLOW. EVERY ONE OF THOSE WILL BE DRIVING BY THIS AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PATRONIZE THE BUSINESS THERE, SO WHATEVER BUSINESS THAT IT IS. I REALLY THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IN HERE.

WELL. AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE LAST MEETING. THAT WE NEEDED THIS IN HERE AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAD A MECHANISM TO GET IT IN HERE. BUT APPARENTLY WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM YESTERDAY'S DISCUSSION. WITH BOB. MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF PUTTING IT IN HERE, BUT MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN RECONSIDER AND I'M SURE THAT . HOMEOWNERS AT BAY POINT WOULD BE WILLING TO START A COMMERCIAL. SOME TYPE OF A COMMERCIAL WITH YOU AND EVERYBODY TRIED TO TRY TO GET IT TOGETHER. YEP. CHRISTOPHER FOR YOU DID I JUST WAS GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT I THOUGHT WE COULD STILL ASK HIM QUESTIONS. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. GO AHEAD. YEAH I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE IT. THERE'S IAN AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE

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SIMILAR TO THE FINISHES WITHIN THE BAY POINT RESORT. I'M SORRY. IF THE INTENT IS FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. BE CONSIDERED AT THE TIME. P U D IS BEING HEARD. YES. THEN WHEN I HEAR THE AFRICAN SAYING IS PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN THERE. SO THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. THE CRITERIA WILL BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PUB. THAT WILL COME PART COME FORWARD AS PART OF THE PD PROCESS. THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ITS OPPORTUNITIES. PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME TO TALK ABOUT WITH YOU WHAT THAT STANDARD IS. AND THAT SCENARIO OF THIS BOARD IS LEFT IN THIS IN THE POSITION OF WEIGHING THAT INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. AGREEING OR DISAGREEING WITH THE STANDARD . THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE SCENARIO WITH STAFFS. CONCERN WAS, DON'T PUT THAT UP OR DOWN DECISION AUTHORITY AND STAFFS. AND THE THERE WERE. THERE WERE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT MY POINT LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT I KNOW SOMEONE HAD A HAND IN. THEY DIDN'T JUST GO OUT AND START BUILDING ALL THAT STUFF DOWN THE MARINA WHERE THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THAT WORK SOMEBODY HAD A HAND IN THAT AND I'M JUST SAYING, CAN WE MAYBE FIGURE OUT WHO THAT WAS, AND LET'S TRY TO GET THAT GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER AND MAKE IT JUST MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE FOR THE ENTRANCE TO BAKE POINT AND PRESERVE AND EVERYWHERE ARE SO CURRENTLY THERE'S NOT THAT BECAUSE RECALL THAT WHEN THIS WAS FIRST DEVELOPED, IT WAS THE SINGLE DEVELOPER AND SO THEY WERE PUTTING THEIR OWN ARCHITECTURAL STYLES ON IT. GO NOW, LIKE TO, FOR INSTANCE, THE POINT MARINA OR POINTS SOUTH. MARINA YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD THEY HAD TO GO TO. THEY JUST DID IT THEMSELVES AND YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A HARBOR MASTER'S OFFICE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. UM WHAT OUR ORIGINAL LANGUAGE FOR THE CONDITIONS THAT WE PROPOSED WAS TO THE FINISHES WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF BAY POINT RESORT THAT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. BUT THAT WAS THE OFFER WAS THAT WE WERE CONSISTENT. WITH A POINT RESORT. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN. IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT BACK IN, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE HAPPY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MIDDLE BARN. NOW THAT WE IN THIS PART OF THE I APPRECIATE THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THAT THAT FACILITY IS ALSO PART OF THE FACILITY THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WOUNDED WARRIORS AND OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE DISABLED TO BE ABLE TO PLAY GOLF VIRTUALLY AND ULTIMATELY, EVEN RESIDENTS OF A POINT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY GOLF ON THE OLD MEADOWS COURSE. ON A VIRTUAL STANDARDS SO THAT THAT HAS A GREATER PURPOSE TO IT, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN OPINION AS TO WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE. UM IF YOU IF WE SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. I THINK THE FINISHES WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT. I MEAN, I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A STANDARD THAT WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE P D, YOU CAN YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT IT IS OR IT ISN'T THANK YOU, SIR. THE OTHER. COMMENTS ARE REALLY CLOSE. YEAH

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UNDERSTAND. THE NEED FOR SOME KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL VIEW. I'M GOOD WITH THAT, HOWEVER. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. TWO. BY FORCE, MAKE THEM. PART OF A POINT WHEN THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT, UM THEY'RE NOT THERE NOW, ANYWAY. THE. DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE, AS WITH ALL DEVELOPMENTS THIS SIZE START WITH THEIR OWN GOVERNING BODY. A POINT DID THE SAME THING. WILD HEARING SO FORTH AND SO ON, UM ST JOE DEVELOPMENTS. YOU KNOW, THEY CREATE THEIR OWN H O AGE TO THEIR LIKING. THEY CREATE THEIR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARDS TO THEIR LIKING. THEY APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE BOARD. AND ALL THIS KIND OF THINGS. UM UM, IN AGREEMENT THAT I DON'T WANT STAFF MAKING THAT DECISION. UM, BY NO MEANS THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE OUR WILL ON OTHERS. UM NOW HOW THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED. YOU KNOW? I THINK. A LOT OF WHAT WOULD DRIVE. THIS INTERNALLY IS HIGHEST AND BEST USE. AS WE CAN ALL KNOW THIS REAL ESTATE IS NOT CHEAP. I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO DROP THE DEVELOPER AND HIS PARTNERS IF YOU HAVE THEM, TOO.

MAKE IT LOOK NICE. SO IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE BLOOD AS MR BOURKE SAID EARLIER. RIGHT NOW, IT'S KIND OF GRANULAR AT THE BIRD. THERE WILL BE MORE SUBSTANCE AND WE COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF REVIEW BOARD. BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME WITHIN. THEY THEMSELVES. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE. ON THE COUNTY BURST OUT BASICALLY, I GOT TO SEE.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM BUT PUT TOGETHER SOME KIND OF A FORM OF EMOTION.

YOU MAY GO MAKE A MOTION OR NOT.

THANK YOU. BEGINNERS TRYING TO BUY HIS WHEELS ARE TURNING. I CAN TELL I DON'T MIND THE SMOKE.

SET BESIDE HIM LONG ENOUGH. I CAN TELL HE'S IN DEEP THOUGHT.

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[15.  PZ 23-013 - Zone Change - 4701 Bay Point Road]

CHANGE UM, AS YOU'VE HEARD NOW WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM ON THESE CONDITIONS FOR THE BAY POINT D R I A D A AMENDMENT AND THE MAP CHANGE. UM STAFF STILL DISAGREES WITH THE PROPOSAL TO PUT C FOUR THERE ON THE 34 ACRES, THE KIND OF TOUCH MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD AND DELL WOULD BE TRUE. UM IT'S APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE STRETCH OF ROAD FRONTAGE ALONG THOSE TWO ROADS, AREAS, PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL WITH MINIMAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES. UM THE ASSOCIATED DRM. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT PROPOSALS UP TO 100,000 SQUARE FEET. OF THOSE GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USES AGAIN. THOSE WERE CONDITIONED INTO MORE NEIGHBORHOOD STYLE COMMERCIAL USES, UM THROUGH THAT P U D YOU'D BE ALLOWING, UH, YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF ALLOWING THOSE FEW C FOUR TYPE USES TESTING LABORATORIES, RESEARCH AND DESIGN TYPE USES THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE IN THAT P U. D. UM WE DON'T RECOMMEND THE C FOUR ZONING IN THAT AREA.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING C ONE C ONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. WE FEEL THAT THAT AREA UM IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE THERE AND CERTAINLY THAT IT'S UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE. UH SO STAFF DISAGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THAT 34 ACRES TO C FOUR AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ZONE. CHANGE TO OUR ONE AND C ONE C ONE IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALONG WITH ALL THESE CONDITIONS WE'VE LISTED BEFORE.

THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD AGAIN INCLUDE THOSE AESTHETIC REVIEW ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. UM, AND

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APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE. MIKE BURKE, 1 61 5 PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY HERE ON BEHALF OF BP LINKS. UH AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN, UM WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE. THE ONLY QUESTION WE HAVE ARE THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE ABOUT C FOUR VERSUS C ONE IS THAT THE IDEA BEHIND THE ZONING IS TO LET FOLKS KNOW WHAT THE INTENSE USES ARE GOING TO BE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT BY DOESN'T NEED TO GET C FOUR. YOU'RE GONNA LEAST LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME INTENSE USES MORE INTENSE USES THAN WHAT C ONE IS, HOWEVER, UM, YOU HAVE , UM, BY THE LAST ACTION, YOU'VE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF OR THE IMPACT OF THE INTENSITIES AND DENSITIES THAT CAN BE PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY. AND UM, WHILE WE THINK IT WILL BE IT WOULD IT WOULD CAUSE YOU LESS HEARTBURN TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE. NOTICED IF YOU HAD A HIGHER ZONING. UM YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO FIELD THOSE CALLS AND IFC ONE IS WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE THEN. WE WON'T OBJECT TO YOU.

ZONING AT C ONE. WE DO REQUEST THE FOUR. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE UM WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY DECIDE, AND THAT'S OKAY WITH US. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE OF ME AND ARE NOT ALWAYS AND SAVE MY TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT WE OPENED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. MY NAME IS JOHN BOZ ART MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 915 COBIA DRIVE. I'VE OWNED FOUR DIFFERENT HOUSES AT BAY POINTED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, I MOVED HERE IN 73 THE SAME YEAR IT WAS BEING BUILT. WILLARD BYRD FROM ATLANTA. VERY FAMOUS DESIGNER LAID IT OUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOUR SCREENS. THE PLANT. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL ARE ONE WAS KEPT ON ONE SIDE FAIRLY CONCISE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE GOLF COURSE. HE THERE'S COMMERCIAL IN BAY. POINT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. IT WAS GROUPED TOGETHER CLOSER TO THE MARINA. MULTI HOUSING WAS ALSO KEPT IN A SEPARATE AREA. IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PLAN, AND IT WAS FAITHFULLY FOLLOWED FOR 50 YEARS NOW. UM THE COURSE. HURRICANE MICHAEL TOOK OUT.

MEADOWS GOLF COURSE. THE OTHER ONE IS STILL OPERATIONAL. GOLF COURSE SOLD. IT WAS SOLD AT A VALUE BASED ON ITS USE AS ITS CURRENT ZONING, WHICH WAS CONSERVATION RECREATION. PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT AND SOLD HOUSES AT BAY POINT FOR 50 YEARS. BASED ON THAT ZONING IN PLACE. THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES IS BASED ON THAT ZONING IN PLACE. THERE ARE 651 SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITES IN BAY POINT, THE MAJORITY OR ON OR WERE ON THE GOLF COURSE. THERE'S THREE TYPES OF LOTS THERE.

THERE'S THOSE THAT ARE LANDLOCKED. THAT'S THE SMALLEST NUMBER. THERE ARE THOSE ON THE CANAL AND THEN THE LARGEST NUMBER. WE'RE ON THE GOLF COURSE THE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE HOUSES ON THEM IS PRETTY MUCH BASED ON WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED. THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. WANTS TO ZONE IN ALL OUR ONE. WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL PLANS WHEN THE DEVELOPER CANAL SYSTEM. A RUNWAY. UH SOME PARTS OF THE GOLF COURSE LEFT AS CONSERVATION RECREATION. BUT NO ACCESS TO GET INTO IT TO MAINTAIN IT. NOTHING ABOUT THE WESTERN END OF THE GOLF COURSE.

NOTHING SHOWN THERE AT ALL. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO GO BY. IF HE'S GOT AN AREA, AND HE WANTS IT TO BE CONSERVATION, RECREATION, AND IT'S ZONED THAT NOW WHY A BLANKET COVERAGE IF WE LOOK AT AN EXAMPLE LIKE THE GLADES, YOU'LL SEE THAT PARCELS ARE ACTUALLY SOLD. TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE THE FINAL DEVELOPERS SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE COMING. I THINK THAT'S WHY SO MANY RESIDENTS ARE SO UNSURE OF WHAT'S TO HAPPEN. BUT IT SEEMS UNFAIR. TWO.

FINANCIALLY IMPACT 651 HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE OF INCREASES IN THE ROAD NETWORK. OR WATER LINES ARE ALREADY IN TROUBLE. SEWER STORMWATER RETENTION AND OVERCAPACITY OF ROADS AND SECURITY GATES. BECAUSE ONE DEVELOPER WANTS TO CHANGE THAT ZONING TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE VALUE OF HIS PURCHASE. I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO DO. I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS AND HEAR OUR VOICES AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE OBJECT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING, AND IT MAKES US VERY NERVOUS. THANK YOU. SEE ANYBODY ELSE. YES, MA'AM. AGAIN SORRY. JEANNIE

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AND THE PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT WE HAVE, AND I AM CONCERNED. TOM MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES. I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED COMPLETELY YET. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT I AM A LITTLE BIT IN A IN A PREDICAMENT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FOR A LONG TIME. BUT I DO APPRECIATE AGAIN. THE FACT THAT, UM THE LANDOWNERS ARE RESPECTFUL OF THE, UM ZONING LAWS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR IN OUR IN OUR BOOKS NOW, AND THIS IS A HIGHLY RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND I JUST I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING ALL THINGS. I APPRECIATE IT. IT'S MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS MY NAME IS KAREN DUGAN. I LOOK LIVE AT 23 15 MAGNOLIA DRIVE. AND ONE THING THAT WE HAD THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED WHEN TOM BROUGHT THE POINT UP IS THE GOLF COURSE. UM, SEVERAL OWNERS BACK ISSUED CERTIFICATES TO CERTAIN MEMBERS WHO BOUGHT THEM. UM THAT WERE RECORDED AND WERE TO RUN WITH THE COVENANTS OF THE LAND. AND ONE OF THOSE, UM ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WAS OR THAT ALL 36 HOLES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY EXISTING. BE KEPT AND OPERATED AS A GOLF COURSE. NOW WE ALL KNOW THAT THE MEADOWS GOLF COURSE GOT DAMAGED BY THE HURRICANE. BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE CORONA IN OR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT WITH, YOU KNOW THE EXISTING MEMBERS THAT HAVE THOSE CERTIFICATES AND WE KNOW WHEN WE GO TO REZONE THIS LAND BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE WERE PROMISES MADE THERE NEED TO BE PROMISES KEPT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR. MR SPEAKER. UM. GOOD MORNING AGAIN, UM THOMAS DUGAN 2315 MAGNOLIA DRIVE. UM A COUPLE OF ISSUES I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT. IF IT TAKES THIS BOARD. SEVEN MINUTES TO MAKE A MOTION. SOMETHING'S WRONG. YOU SHOULD HAVE TABLED IT. IT'S WISE, THE TABLE IT DISCUSS IT, HAVE STAFF REVIEW AND COME BACK WITH THE CORRECT DECISION. I SUGGEST JUST TABLE THIS ONE. AND FOR A FEW ADDITIONAL REASONS. WHO'S GOING TO BUILD THE NEW FIRE STATION. YOU'RE GONNA NEED WHO'S GOING TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION. SO MY INSURANCE DOESN'T GO UP BECAUSE I'M TOO FAR FROM FIRE HYDRANTS.

I CAN'T EVEN GET A FIRE HYDRANT NEAR MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW. SO MY INSURANCE IS MORE WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE THE SHEET FLOW OF WATER FROM THE RAINSTORMS THAT'S COMING ACROSS MAGNOLIA BEACH DRIVE RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THE GOLF COURSE WAS DESTROYED AND THE WATER'S FLOWING OVER INTO MAGNOLIA BEACH IS STATE. THOSE FIRST FOUR HOMES ON THE LEFT GET FLOODED. THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE HAD TO PUT DRAINAGE ON THEIR OWN. WHO'S HANDLING THAT HE'S DOING THAT. THOSE ARE YOUR OWN THINGS THAT ZONING WILL CHANGE. IT TAKES MORE THAN A PULLING A PENCIL AND NUMBER TWO PENCIL AND CHECK THE BOX. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH. THIS IS A COMPLICATED ISSUES JUST NOT AS SIMPLE. THREE MINUTE DISCUSSION HERE. THERE'S A LOT TO IT. MRS P'S WAS RIGHT. WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO WITH THE DRAINAGE? MR DOZER WAS CORRECT WHEN HE BROUGHT UP ABOUT HIM, REZONING OF ANOTHER PROPERTY AND OFFENSE FOR A FUTURE POSSIBILITY OF EVEN THOUGH THE GUY OWNED THE SAME THING. THAT HE OWNED A COMMERCIAL HERE AND HE WANTED TO MAYBE DO SOMETHING. HE'S IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR HIM TO SAY. WHAT ABOUT THE FUTURE? I'M

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YOUR PAWS WAS TELLING. THAT. THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF CONSEQUENCE TO THE DECISION THAT YOU'RE MAKING HERE FOR MANY PEOPLE. AND OUR FUTURE, OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE. I AGREE THAT IT'S WORTH RECONSIDERING THE IMPACT OF THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. AND TO TRY TO BALANCE YOUR GOALS. OF PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE AND AESTHETICS WITH SOME KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ON THE DOORSTEP WITH THIS PURCHASE OF THIS 136 ACRES, SO I JUST WANT TO ADD MY VOICE AND I'M SORRY TO BE LATE COMING TO THE TABLE. I THINK THE REASON THAT, UH, THERE AREN'T MORE PEOPLE HERE FROM BAY POINT AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. UM. THEY DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO GET EDUCATED AND INVOLVED AND IT HAS TAKEN ME SOME TIME TO GET CAUGHT UP BECAUSE OF OTHER FACTORS IN MY LIFE, SO I JUST WANT TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO SUPPORT EVERYONE IN TRYING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE . SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING.

LILLIAN COOPER, 2 TO 7 MARLINS CIRCLE IN BAY POINT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. UH, I BELIEVE SOMEONE. IN THIS GROUP THAT HAS JUST SPOKEN, MENTIONED THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. WITH WATER COMING ACROSS MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD AND INTO SOME OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT. THE DEVELOPER, UM OR OWNER HAS. RESEARCHED MUCH OF WHAT HE IS PLANNING TO DO. WITH VERY STRONG UH UM. EMPHASIS TOWARD RESOLVING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND NOT CAUSING MORE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE DESPERATELY NEED INSIDE BY POINT AS WELL AS IF IT'S OVERFLOWING ON MAGNOLIA BEACH ROAD. WHAT HE IS PROPOSING SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. I BELIEVE HE HAS DONE HIS DUE DILIGENCE. AND HAS A GOOD PLAN. AS FAR AS THAT GOES, I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY, UM TAKEN CARE OF NICELY. BUT PLEASE DO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE IF WE HAVE ANOTHER MICHAEL UM AND EVEN IN. AND VERY HEAVY SUMMER THUNDERSTORM. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE STREETS IN BAY POINT THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY SWIM IN. SO PLEASE DO KEEP THAT IN MIND. I BELIEVE HE HAS THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY AT HEART. THANK YOU.

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PUT IT INTO WRITING NOW, BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY CHANGES OWNING AND HOPEFULLY, IT WON'T TURN OUT AS BAD AS IT DID IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. TO ANYBODY ELSE. YES, MA'AM. I KNOW YOU STOOD UP A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT'S OKAY. THAT WORRIES. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER SHOOK AND I LIVE CLOSER. LOVETT, 17 12 WAHOO CIRCLE AND BE POINT AND I CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT BAY POINT AND ALSO ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR BAY POINT WEST. BUT TODAY I AM HERE NOT AS A REPRESENTATIVE EITHER OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS BUT AS A HOMEOWNER. AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONER'S THANK YOU. THE STAFF. FOR YOUR DILIGENCE WITH THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. IT'S BEEN VERY COMPLICATED. AND YOU'VE ALL SEEMED LIKE YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF A POINT IN THE COMMUNITY AT HOME AS A WHOLE.

AND IT'S TRULY A GREAT DAY THAT WE GET TO SEE GOVERNMENT WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND FOR EVERYBODY , AT LEAST HERE IN BAY COUNTY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UM THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT OUR WAY OF LIFE IS CHANGING IN BAY COUNTY. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME LIVE AT THE BEACH, AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHY AND, UM THE CHANGES YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY. DEFINITELY DO IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT MR WARREN'S PROPOSAL AS HE'S SHOWN IT TO THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S GREAT THINGS TO COME FOR BAY POINT. HOWEVER THERE'S ONE AREA OF DISCREPANCY THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER TODAY IS THAT SMALL AREA THAT IS ON THE MAP, AND IT SAYS POTENTIAL GREEN SPACE. BUT THE REQUEST FOR THE ZONING CHANGES THAT THAT AREA ALSO BE ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL ONE. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I WOULD ASK OF YOU GUYS IS TO PLEASE CONSIDER PRESERVING THAT AREA ON HIS MAP THAT HE'S SHOWN US THAT SAYS POTENTIAL GREEN SPACE. GO AHEAD AND CONSERVE THAT AND LEAVE THAT AS RECREATIONAL GREEN SPACE. SO THAT IS ALL. I HAVE TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. GOING ONCE. OKAY. ALRIGHT,

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THIS GOES ON REALLY SIX NEW SIX HEARINGS ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, AND IT COVERS FOUR MEETINGS. SO THIS HAS BEEN, UM VETTED, UH, EXTENSIVELY PUBLICLY ON THIS. NOT TO MENTION THE MANY TIMES THAT, MR WARREN ATTENDED. UM BAY POINT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MEETINGS BEFORE EVEN SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. SO THIS HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PROJECT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR? UM LAND USE CHANGE AND ZONING CHANGE. THE MOST OTHERS IS THAT MOST TIMES WHEN YOU COME IN HERE DEVELOPER LIKE THE ONES THAT WERE BEFORE US JUST SIMPLY SAID I WANT TO CHANGE TO OUR ONE. AND THEN THEY GOT WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT MATTER OF ACREAGE WOULD SUPPORT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS ONE IS AND THESE WERE SELF IMPOSED CONDITIONS, EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE LAND USE CHANGE. THOSE WERE SELF IMPOSED CONDITIONS PRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER TO YOU TO CONSIDER. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT ON THE MAPS THAT WE CHANGE AND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT SHOWS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL NOT EXCEED 85 AND ALSO SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THEY WILL BE ON THE MAP. SO THOSE AREAS LIKE THAT, MISS SHOOK WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IF THAT WANTS TO BE CHANGED TO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO A, UH TO PUT HOUSES IN THAT AREA, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND DO THIS PROCESS AGAIN. UM MY CLIENTS ARE GOOD MAN, BUT HE'S NOT A PATIENT, MAN. I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO DO THAT ANYTIME SOON. OKAY SO THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY SET IN STONE THAT YOU WOULDN'T GET IN A NORMAL REQUEST THIS BOARD AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM. THE ADDITIONAL THING OR THE FOUR UNITS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE C ONE OF THE C FOUR. WHATEVER YOU END UP DECLARING THAT TO BE UM. THERE WERE SOME MATTERS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT ARE THAT ARE PRIVATE MATTERS. I'M NOT EVEN SURE THE FOLKS THAT REGARDING PREFERRED GOLF CERTIFICATES WHICH, UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY SAY THEY DON'T REQUIRE 36 HOLES TO BE OPERATED. AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE THE FOLKS THAT WERE MENTIONING THAT, UM EVEN HAVE A RIGHT TO THOSE CERTIFICATES. UM REGARDING THE AGAIN THE LOCATIONS OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS WILL BE 85 TOTAL UNITS THERE ALREADY. PROPOSED THERE IN THE IN THE APPLICATION THAT YOU AMEND WITH THE COP PLANS AND THEIR LIMITED THOSE LOCATIONS AS LONG AND ALSO WITH THE C ONE OR C FOUR ZONING. WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAND USE CHANGE THAT ARE PART OF NOW THE D R I THAT LIMIT THE SIZE AND STRUCTURE AND THE OTHER CONDITIONS OF THAT, IF THERE ANY CORRECT QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OF ME OR THAT YOU THINK I NEED TO ANSWER RIGHT NOW, LET ME SAY THIS. MR THOMAS, SPEAKING REGARDING AND MOST EVERYBODY WORRIED ABOUT THE STORM, WATER OR THE OTHER EFFECTS. I'M GONNA SAY IT EVEN THOUGH YOU ALL ARE WELL, WHERE OF IT? I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. THOSE ARE MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE YOU WHEN WE ACTUALLY DID DECIDE TO PUT STRUCTURES ON THE GROUND AT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER STAGE. YOU DON'T KNOW AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME WHERE THOSE FACILITIES ARE GOING TO GO AND WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, UM, IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE BUILDING BUILT AND IF ONE BUILDING IS BUILT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT FOUR BUILDINGS OR MORE BUILDINGS REQUIRED. SO THAT'S WHY YOU HANDLE THAT AT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER STAGE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPER FACILITIES ARE ARE MAINTAINED AND INCLUDED AS NECESSARY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT FROM NOT EXCEED THE IMPACTS OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. STATEMENT TODAY. I'M NEW AT THIS . SO I'M LEARNING AS WE GO, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER STATES. THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO LEAVE ALL OF THESE, UM FOLKS THAT HAVE COME HERE CALLED US WRITTEN US LETTERS SHOWED UP AT THE MEETING IN, UM, JUST COMPLETE. THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS. SOME OF THEM DO. SOME OF THEM ARE DEVELOPERS.

I KNOW HOW IT WORKS, BUT THERE'S NO SENSE IN LEAVING THEM IN SUSPENSE ABOUT THE STORM WATER WHEN WE CAN JUST HAVE A EASY DISCUSSION UP HERE THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AH LIKE MS COOPER BELIEVE THAT IT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP FIRST DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SO TO THINK. IT'S GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF. DOESN'T HURT THIS TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE REASSURANCE THAT IT'S COMING. IT'S JUST COMING IN A DIFFERENT STATE. BUT NO, ABSOLUTELY AND YOU ALSO KNOW THAT MR WARREN THE VERY FIRST THING HE DID WHEN HE

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[02:00:04]

ALRIGHT, SECOND OKAY, WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAN. COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. YES MA'AM. MR. CARROLL COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG. WE'RE INTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THIS TIME, THE FOUR WILL BE OPEN TO ANY

[L.  PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED TO ITEMS WHICH THE COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY)]

[02:05:02]

[N.  COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT]

AGREEMENT TO CANCEL AND IF WE HAVE MADE WE HAVE USED PUBLIC FUNDS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON

[02:10:01]

LIKE I SAID, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE JUST LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY COUNTY TO PUT THAT FACILITY, BUT IT JUST MADE SENSE TO LOCATED THERE SINCE THE GUN RANGE WAS WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY NO, NO, MA'AM . I MEAN, IT'S SO F W C OPERATES THE FACILITY FOR US. IT'S JUST ON SOLID WASTE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE BOARD MADE THE DECISION AT THE TIME TO CONSTRUCT THAT FACILITY. THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY HAD EXISTING PROPERTY AND TO WORK VERY WELL. THE GUN RANGE ITSELF HAS BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. THE RATE OF RETURN THAT FACILITY IT'S ALREADY BEEN THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS ALREADY PAID OFF. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE CLEARLY IN THE BLACK ON THAT IT GETS A LOT OF A LOT OF USE EVERY MONTH, AND WE THINK THAT THE SKEET AND TRAP FACILITY WILL, TOO. THAT'S BECOMING AN EMERGING SPORT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL FOR, UM COMPETITIVE SHOOTERS TO EARN SCHOLARSHIPS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S GENERATING THE INTEREST AMONGST THE PUBLIC IS THERE'S PARENTS OUT THERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT TYPE OF FACILITY PRESENT HERE SO THEIR CHILDREN COULD PARTICIPATE. UM AND WE WOULD LOOK AT IT FROM A TOURISM DRAW. TWO. THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING. UH YOU KNOW, I, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE HAPPENED. DO SHOOT NON PROFESSIONALLY BACK YEARS AGO.

THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING TOURNAMENTS IN HERE AND DRAW. YEAH TOURISM, JUST LIKE THE SPORTS PARK DOES. BUT THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF ME TO PROVIDE THAT FACILITY FOR REALLY THE HIGH SCHOOL AGED KIDS WHO WERE LOOKING TO BE COMPETITIVE AND REALLY ATTRACT THAT TYPE OF COMPETITION TODAY. THE ROOM TO BRING ARCHERY INTO THAT WE HAVE ARCHERY. THERE ALREADY IS A MATTER OF FACT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD LOOKED AT DOING WAS RELOCATING THE ARCHERY AREA TO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE WE IT'S VERY LOW IMPACT INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S PORTABLE. UM BUT THE AREA WHERE THE ARCHERY RANGE IS THAT IF WE WERE TO PUT THE SKATE THE SKEET AND TRAP RANGE THERE, WE WOULD HAVE SOME SAFETY. ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING GUN RANGE AND THE LANDFILL OPERATIONS. SO, UM HE WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS ON YEAH, I'M I DON'T WANT US TO GIVE UP ON THE IDEA BY NO MEANS BECAUSE I GUESS WORST CASES WE CAN JUST GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. PIECE OF LAND SOMEPLACE ELSE. MAYBE PROJECT OR I DON'T. WE COULD. GO THAT AVENUE. UM I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR YET ON I WOULD SAY WHO'S OFFERING. ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW? AND IF WE GET THIS GRANT. FOR THIS FACILITY. IS THERE A WAY? AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUYING DOWN THE GRANT SAID. IF IT'S JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU SAY IT'S 20 YEARS FROM NOW. YOURSELF. WE WANT THE LAND BACK. AND WE'VE GOTTEN 20 YEARS. YOU SAID THAT GRANT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I THINK I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MEMORIALIZE THAT CONVERSATION WITH WC, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS. YOU YOU USE THE FORM OF DEPRECIATION OVER THE TERM OF THE ASSET BECAUSE THE TERMINOLOGY THEY'RE USING IS YOU KNOW IF THE LEASE IS TERMINATED BEFORE THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE. SO THAT TELLS THAT TELLS ME THEY'RE ALREADY IN THAT MINDSET OF YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A 20 YEAR FACILITY IN YOUR

[02:15:05]

DON'T KNOW. WE'VE BEFORE IT ASKED HIM TO SUBMIT ALL HIS, UM COMMENTS ARE WRITING. HE'S REFUSED. HE'S NOW HAD TODAY MAKES THE THIRD OUTBURST. UM AND REMOVAL FROM THE CHAMBER SINCE WE ASKED HIM THAT DAY. TO DO SO AND YEAH, HE'S JUST NOT DOING THAT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE HAVE SHOWED CONCERNS. ABOUT SAFETY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. UM I HAVE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO COME HERE DUE TO MR BECK AND HIS BEHAVIOR. UM SIR, I THINK WE'VE GIVEN HIM EVERY CHANCE IN THE WORLD. WE'VE SENT HIM A LETTER EXPLAINING TO HIM THAT IF HE CONTINUED HIS OUTBURST THAT THE BOARD COULD MAKE A MOTION. TO MOVE TO HAVE BEEN BANNED AND TRESPASS FROM THE PROPERTY. I THINK PERSONALLY, I THINK WE'VE REACHED THAT POINT. THAT, UM. THAT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTION TO ENSURE THAT HE DOESN'T COME UP HERE AND CONTINUE HIS ANTICS AND HINDER THE PROCESS OF THE PUBLIC COMING IN HERE, TOO. UM ADDRESS THIS LIKE WE DID TODAY WITH I WAS GONNA HAVE ONE OF OUR LARGER CROWDS TODAY, THEN WE NORMALLY HAVE BUT I JUST WANT TO GET THE FEEDBACK. AND YOU GUYS WHERE YOU WHERE YOU ARE ON THIS IF YOU SEE IT THE WAY I DO, UM THE JUST THINK WE'VE GIVEN THE GUY EVERY CHANCE IN THE WORLD. TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND I JUST THINK THE BEST INDICATOR OF FUTURE BEHAVIORS. PAST PERFORMANCE. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT OUT OF HIM. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M STANDING. UM, ON THAT. BOUNCE IT OFF ILLEGAL. HAVE YOU COME IN ON THAT AS FAR AS OUR POSITION ON LEGALLY. WE STAND. WITH THOSE ABILITIES TO DO THAT. SO WE CAN . WHEN THERE'S DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR BY SOMEBODY IN IN THE CHAMBERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD HAS THE DISCRETION TO DO IS TO IS TO BEND AND FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR WHATEVER PERIOD TIME YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE. WE ALSO HAVE A TRESPASS POLICY THAT, UM PROHIBITS THAT THAT ALLOWS, UM THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT. CONTROL THIS FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO. TRESPASS THEM FROM THE BUILDING. IF THEY'RE ENGAGING IN BEHAVIORS THAT ARE UM, DISRUPTIVE AND CAUSE YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, SO UM, UNDER EITHER OF

[02:20:02]

I'VE HAD PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. TELL ME THAT AS LONG AS HE'S COMING TO THESE MEETINGS AND ACTING ALL HIS ACTING, THEY WILL NOT SHOW UP HERE. EVEN THOUGH THEY WANT TO COME LOVE TO PARTICIPATE, BUT BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE ALLOWING THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN YOUR CHAMBERS WE WON'T SHOW UP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL. I HAVE REPEATEDLY TAKEN UP FOR GARY TRIED TO ALLOW HIM TO HAVE HIS FREE SPEECH. ABOUT IT, ACTUALLY , AGAINST THE REST OF YOU LAST TIME. AND, UM I'LL TALK TO HIM IN THE EVENINGS. I TALKED TO HIM ON THE WEEKENDS. I'LL TALK TO HIM BEFORE EVERY MEETING. TELLING HIM TO REMAIN CALM. PLEASE DON'T TALK OUT. YOU SCARED THE CHILDREN THAT WERE IN HERE HE SCARES SOME OF THE LADIES THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THAT COME IN HERE. WE'VE GOTTEN LETTERS THAT STATE THAT PEOPLE WON'T COME LIKE YOU SAY. UM SO YOU KNOW? IT'S UNFORTUNATE I SPOKE WITH HIM BEFORE THIS MEETING. HE SAID. I'M GONNA SPEAK. I SAID PLEASE DON'T. I DON'T ADVISE IT. PLEASE DON'T DO IT. PLEASE DON'T DO IT. AND HE JUST FEELS LIKE HE CANNOT CONTROL HERSELF. HE MUST TALK OUT AT EVERY MEETING AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE CAN'T CONTINUE. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE HIS FRIEND IF HE WANTS TO TALK, ALWAYS TALK, BUT I CANNOT. I CAN'T CONTINUE TO TAKE UP FOR HIS BEHAVIOR IN THE MEETINGS, SO

[02:25:01]

[O.  CHAIRMAN'S REPORT AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS]

EVERYTHING PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE ON THE ROAD. EVERYBODY'S OUT. AND ABOUT NOW, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY? MR. YES, UM. COUPLE COUPLE THINGS, UM, FIRST OFF THERE WAS A QUESTION AND COMMENT MADE ABOUT OUR DITCHES AND REGULATIONS AND ALLOWING THINGS TO HAPPEN. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT THAT WE DO HAVE REGULATIONS. PEOPLE DO HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS PULLED IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ANY STRUCTURE OR ANYTHING IN OUR DITCHES.

THERE ARE REGULATIONS AND OUR STAFFS ON TOP OF THAT. SO IN THE COUNTY THERE'S CERTAINLY GUIDELINES THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED FOR THE FLOW OF WATER NOT TO BE IMPEDED. AND SO THAT THAT THAT'S IN PLACE ALREADY IN THE COUNTY. UM BEIBEI IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION FROM FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. THEY DO A GOOD JOB WITH CATCHING CATS AND DOGS AND SPAIN NEUTERING HIM. UM FOR THAT'S THE THAT'S THEIR ONE OF THEIR PURPOSES IS TO IS TO CONTROL THE POPULATION OF ANIMALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING, AND I ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, IF THAT'S THEIR DESIRE. I DON'T WANT WE HAVE SO MUCH ON OUR PLATE RIGHT NOW. AS FAR AS THAT GOES, I JUST ENCOURAGE THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS TO STEP OUT AND CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE EFFORTS. I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. UM AND SO THAT'S AS MUCH AS I SAY ON THAT. UM I GET COMMENTS ALL THE TIME. THIS WAS JUST A LITTLE SIDE NOTE. I'M SURE EVERYBODY GETS HIS COMMENTS. WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN BAY COUNTY. PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME TIME AND TIME AGAIN. WHY ARE WE ALLOWING AND. SO THEY SAY, WHY ARE YOU LETTING THESE PEOPLE MOVED DOWN HERE WHILE ALLOWING ALL THIS GROWTH TO HAPPEN? AND SO MY ANSWER TO THEM IS INDIVIDUALLY AND IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE. I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT IN ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY AND THEIR THEIR DREAM IS TO BUILD A HOUSE ON IT. IT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY YOU CAN'T BUILD YOUR HOUSE ON IT. I, YOU KNOW. PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE HERE BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA. AND THE COMMUNITY IS GOOD. SO OUR GROWTH IN BAY COUNTY IS THE SAME GROWTH THAT'S GOING ALONG. ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE PANHANDLE. PANHANDLE IS IT'S A NICE AREA. PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND OUR JOB IS. TO YOU KNOW, KEEP UP WITH THE ONE OF OUR JOBS IS TO KEEP UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A STRUGGLE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT. BUT WE ARE STRIVING TO DO THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTY STAY UP WITH THE ROADS AND THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THIS GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S MY ANSWER TO EVERYBODY WHO TALKS TO ME ABOUT IT IS WHY WE'RE ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN WELL, THE PRIVATE DECISION FOR THE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TO COME MOVE TO OUR AREA. AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. MICHIGAN. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UM. ONE OF OUR ITEMS JUST MORNING WE APPROVED WAS ADDING DANIEL DAVIDSON TO OUR PARTS OF AUDREY BOARD.

THAT'S HE'S GONNA REPRESENT MY DISTRICT AND JUST GRATEFUL THAT WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOVE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND BE PART OF ALL THE ADVISER BOARDS THAT WE HAVE SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. AS COMMISSIONER, MORRIS STATED. SCHOOL HAS STARTED. UM KIDS ARE BACK IN SCHOOL. GOOD TO SEE IT. WE GOT LOTS OF SPORTING ACTIVITIES. I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE KICKING OFF FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL AND SO LOTS OF GREAT SPORTING EVENTS SCHOOL AND READ THOSE KIDS ON THEY HAVE WORKED HARD, SO SUPPORT THEM. YOUNG MEN

[02:30:01]

HIS ENTIRE CAREER. I BELIEVE INVADERS FOR SCHOOLS AS A TEACHER AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, PRINCIPAL AND AS OUR SUPERINTENDENT FOR MANY TERMS, AND JUST WANT TO WISH HIM AND HIS WIFE A GREAT RETIREMENT AND WISH MARK MCQUEEN GOOD LUCK AND ISN'T EVER BEING SUPERINTENDENT . HE'S HE'S GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT RUNS EFFICIENTLY AND SO WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL. AND, UH LASTLY, IT WAS EXCITING TO SEE AFTER OUR LAST COMMISSION F 30 FIVES. WE HAD THREE OUT OF THE 78 OR SO THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING, SO HAVING THAT BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE . SO LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING ALL THE JETS FRATERNAL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. YES I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE AMERICAN LEGION AND MEET WITH THOSE GUYS AND GIRLS OVER THERE AND THEY ACTUALLY CAME YESTERDAY AND HELPED US FINISH UP THE LAST OF THE DOUBLE KLAXONS. SO HATS OFF TO THEM. THEY DID A GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE AND THAT'S PART OF THEIR MOTTO THERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS TO THEM. IT'S GREAT. UM AND. I GUESS TO SCHOOLS IN. IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS AND I HAVE ONE. NOW THAT ALREADY KNOWS MORE THAN HIS TEACHER DOES, AND HE'S ONLY IN THE SECOND GRADE. UM HE'S UM. TO WANT TO BRING LIGHT TO WE ARE CITIZENS ACADEMY IS NOW BACK IN ACTION. WE WERE SOMETHING WE DID PRIOR TO MICHAEL. UM BUT IT COURSE MICHAEL DERAILED A LOT OF THINGS AROUND HERE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. BUT IT STARTS BACK SEPTEMBER 25TH. THE CLASSES WILL BE OPEN TO A MAXIMUM OF 25 PEOPLE. YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND REGISTER FOR THIS. THERE'S A COUPON CODE CALLED BAY 23. IF YOU USE THAT, THEN IT WILL BE A NO CHARGE TO YOU. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT, UM, COMING UP NEXT MONTH FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE AND ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT A LOT THAT THEY PROBABLY CAN'T MAYBE FIND THE TIME TO COME IN HERE TO ASK THAT GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND IF YOU MISS ALL THAT IT'S YOU CAN CATCH UP LATER ON, IT'LL BE ONLINE. I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE A PLACE ON OUR WEB PAGE FOR THAT. UM WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO ADD . SO I GUESS MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.