Jan 17, 2024 Board of County Commissioners

[A.  CALL TO ORDER]

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LIKE TO BRING THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. UM JANUARY. 17TH TIME IS 9:08 A.M. CALL THE ROLL MAN COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM PIECE CHAIRMAN HAN, MA'AM THIS MORNING INVOCATION AND BE LED BY PASTOR JOSHUA GAY. HARD PRAISE, WORSHIP AND JONATHAN DIGGINS FROM VETERAN SERVICE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY TODAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US WE THANK YOU FOR OUR WONDERFUL COUNTY IN THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON US. WE YESTERDAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GRACE IN THIS MEETING . WE THANK YOU THAT YOUR PIECES HERE THANK YOU. FOR EVERY LEADER IN THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THEM AND BLESS THEIR FAMILIES. WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING THIS BOARD WISDOM LIKE SOLOMON TO LEAD OUR COUNTY INTO SUCCESS AND BLESSING. WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM. WE SPEAK GRACE AND BLESSING OVER THEIR LIVES. WE ASKED FOR ALL THESE THINGS. IN THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY OTHER NAME. THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. I BELIEVE YOU BACK. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT SAYS COORDINATION.

INDIVISIBLE. IN THEIR T AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? YES

[E.  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]

OKAY? RV. I GUESS, BASICALLY LIVING IN RVS TEMPORARILY. YES SIR. WE DID IT FOR TWO YEARS LAST YEAR LAST TIME OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO I'M SURE ANYTHING ELSE OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? SECOND ALRIGHT AND MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER KAREL COMMISSION MORE YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER, PIECE CHAIRMAN

[G.  PRESENTATIONS]

CHECK. CHECK. YOU HAVE THIS EFFECT ON PEOPLE WEARING? THIS NEVER HAPPENS. WAYNE IS TIRELESSLY WORKED WITH CITIZENS AND SURVEYORS AND EXPLAINING FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ENSURE SAFE AND PROPER REDEVELOPMENT. HE WAS ALSO ATTENDED COMMUNITY EVENTS TO TALK TO CITIZEN GROUPS ABOUT FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AND HOW TO WORK ON THE NEW FLOOD ZONES THAT FEMA ONE DAY IS GOING TO ADOPT IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S A JOKE.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADOPT IT FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF. OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, HE AND HIS EXPERTISE HAVE BEEN VITAL TO THE PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNTY. AND LASTLY, WAYNE WAS RECOGNIZED AS A NOTABLE KNOWS. WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NOBLE STAND OUT SO WAYNE, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME DEDICATION OF A COUNTY.

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ALRIGHT NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THIS IS LIMITED TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? OKAY SEE YOU. NONE WILL

[I.  APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

THE BOARD APPROVED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE ON P. 020 TO 30641. WITH WEST TECH ENGINEERING LLC TO INCREASE THE PROJECT COSTS BY $736,468. FOR FILTER NUMBER FOUR REPLACEMENT AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION AND MULTIPLE SECONDS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER DOZER COMMISSIONER. PEACE COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER KAREL CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. NEXT WE WILL DO NUMBER 11. MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY NORTHERN

[11.  Fountain Community Northern Region Resiliency Center]

ANY COMMENTS UM. QUICK COMMENT. ARCHITECTURE SOURCES. HE'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. UM HE'S DONE. A BUNCH OF PROJECTS IN BAY COUNTY. UM AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FANTASTIC JOB. WE'RE GLAD HE'S ON THE TEAM AND LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT MUCH NEEDED. OH, YEAH. I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE, UM I GUESS A GAME CHANGER FOR THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR COUNTY.

THIS IS GONNA THIS IS REALLY HUGE. UM THE BEING ABLE TO HAVE. YOU KNOW, RODEOS THAT ARE GONNA BE COVERED IS GOING TO BE NICE. THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES. I'VE TRIED TO TAKE MY KIDS UP THERE AND WE GOT RAINED OUT BOTH TIMES. SO IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO GO AND NOT GET WET. YEAH I'M I'M CERTAINLY GLAD TO SEE THIS, UH, MOVING FORWARD FOR THE FOR ALL OF THE COUNTY, BUT PRIMARILY FOR THE FOUNTAIN AREA IS GOING TO, UH HAS BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS FOR SO LONG AND PRIVATE. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, SAY, APPRECIATE THE WORK. KEITH DID WORKING WITH THE O OR WHATEVER THERE GO BY NOWADAYS, BUT, UM, JUST AFTER THE HURRICANE WORKING ON THIS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO BOTH FOR GRACE GUYS, AS WELL AS BLUE SKIES WITH MEETING SPACE.

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[12.  PL20230018 & PL20230022 - Small Scale Amendment & Zone Change - 4662 & 4636 E. Highway 390]

COMMISSIONER MORE YES, MA'AM. CAROL YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZER. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN. HAM? YES, MA'AM. AH, NEXT. PUBLIC HEARING. UM THIS WILL BE, I GUESS, NUMBER 13. UM. THE 020 TO 30018. AND 00 TO TWO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE, MR WILLIAM PORTER.

THERE'S A QUASI JUDICIAL ALRIGHT YEP. SORRY. SOLID QUASAR. IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN IN. I SWEAR, AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH. THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU. ANY PARTY DISCLOSURES. THE PROPERTY BROKEN NO. ONE NONE FOR ME. SEEING THE PROPERTY SPOKEN TO NO. ONE, THE MAYOR OF THE PROPERTY SPOKEN WITH NO. ONE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. ON DECEMBER 19TH 2023, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARINGS TO CONSIDER REQUEST. CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 3.3 ACRES. FROM INDUSTRIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY TO SEE THREE A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LOW. UH SUCH PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 4622 AND 4636 EAST HIGHWAY 390 IN THE INCORPORATED PANAMA CITY AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF PUBLIC HEARING PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND, USE HIS OWN CHANGES CONSISTENT. WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON EAST HIGHWAY 390, A CORRIDOR WHERE THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING CURRENTLY EXIST. THERE ARE EXISTING C THREE A LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. EAST HIGHWAY THREE NINETIES CLASSIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL ROAD IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE C THREE. A ZONING DESIGNATION REQUIRES 100 FT. OF ROAD FRONTAGE. 22 PARCELS COMBINED HAPPY ROAD FRONTAGE FOR APPROXIMATELY 300 FT. THEREFORE STAFF AGREES THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHMENTS IS. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM. OKAY? QUESTIONS FOR MONEY. QUESTIONS SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROAD FRONTAGE, THESE TWO PARCELS WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE. HMM. THAT A REQUIREMENT? I DON'T KNOW IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT. I THINK SEPARATELY THEY WOULD THEY EACH HAVE AT LEAST 100 AND 50 FT . SO EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T COMBINED, THEY'D STILL MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE TO COMBINE ON ITS WAR. CORRECT. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO OKAY. THE APPLICANT HERE ABOUT THE REPRESENTATIVE. SHE LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK. GOOD MORNING. SCOTT RUTHERFORD WITH SCR ASSOCIATES. WE ARE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TYPICALLY FURTHER TO ADD TO WHAT MR PORTER SAID. IS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. THE INTENTION WOULD BE TO COMBINE THESE INTO ONE PARCEL FOR ONE DEVELOPMENT. BUT WE DO

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AH NEXT, WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE. RELATED TO BIG COUNTY. DO YOU THINK WE MAY HAVE JURISDICTION OR NOT? YOU LIKE, PLEASE COME UP. OKAY SEE YOU.

[N.  COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT]

CALLAWAY ELEMENTARY IS CLOSED FOR THE DAY AS A RESULT OF RUPTURE IN A SIX INCH LINE AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ANOTHER RUPTURE ON THE LINE IN THE NORTH BAY AREA. SO IF YOU HEAR ANY REPORTS OF THAT THAT'S THE STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING THOSE THAT WE HAVE NOTHING MORE TO REPORT AS FAR AS THE WEATHER FROM OVERNIGHT ALRIGHT. IT HAS BEEN COLD. RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO

[O.  CHAIRMAN'S REPORT AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS]

JUST GOES TO THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN BAY COUNTY, WITH NEIGHBORS COMING OUT AND HELPING NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE JUST STEPPING UP TO VOLUNTEER AND HELPING EACH OTHER OUT DURING THESE HARD TIMES. UM AND JUST WANT TO, UH AH, WE DO HAVE THE WEATHER THE WARMING STATIONS THAT ARE OPEN AND SO JUST WANTED TO DO AND IF YOU IF YOU NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, PLEASE DO SO. WHILE WE HAVE THIS COLD WEATHER, AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY? MR PEACE. YES MA'AM. LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT, UM, ABOUT LEADERSHIP. HARD WORKING CREWS THAT MOBILIZED AFTER STORMS OR ESSENTIAL TO THE RECOVERY PROCESS AND EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP THAT SUPPORTS AND EMPOWERS THESE TEAMS IS CRITICAL. FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE OPERATIONS. I JUST WANT TO MENTION OF FEW FOLKS THAT I WITNESSED WHILE I WAS OUT RIGHT AFTER THE STORM.

UH DAVID THORPE IS OUR RODENT BRIDGES. HE'S OVERALL RODENT BRIDGES. HE'S PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF MEN AND WOMEN THAT KNOW HOW TO GET IT DONE. I WATCHED THEM AS THEY WORK LIKE A WILL ALL MACHINE. THEY WENT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PICKING UP DEBRIS. UM JUST WORKING

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PICKING UP DEBRIS AND CLEARING STREETS FOR THE POWER COMPANY AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS NEXT TO SAVING LIVES. SO THAT BRINGS ME TO A QUICK STORY. SORRY, I'M A LITTLE HORSE. UM A MAN WALKED UP TO ME WITH TWO BLACK EYES. I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD GOTTEN A BROKEN NOSE OR WHAT, BUT HE HAD TWO BLACK EYES AND A SMALL LIMP. HE TOLD ME A STORY ABOUT BEING IN AN RV DURING THE STORM WITH HIS WIFE. IMPORTANT TO A PILE OF RUBBLE METAL THAT HAD BEEN TWISTED TOGETHER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND HE WANTED TO LET ME KNOW THAT THE FIRST THING HE SAW WHEN HE WOKE UP, I GUESS HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OUT IN THE STORM WAS THE FACE OF SHERIFF TOMMY FORD. SO HE BEGAN TO CRY AND GET VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT. AND I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT OUR SHERIFF LEADS FROM THE FRONT. HE AND HIS TEAM WENT FROM SAVING LIVES. TO CATCHING THE BAD GUYS ALL IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE DURING THIS WHOLE ORDEAL. I WATCHED AS THEY CARRIED OUT THEIR DUTIES. SHARE FORD AND HIS TEAM MAKE ME BE PROUD TO LIVE IN BAY COUNTY. I ALSO WANT TO THANK BOB MICAH AND JOEL SCHUBERT FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP. AH THEY WERE HERE EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY. GET KEEPING EVERYBODY KEEPING EVERYBODY MOVING. OUR BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT WAS OUT MAKING SURE THAT, UM THEY INSPECTED AH, THE POWER. YOU KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO THESE HOMES QUICKLY SO THAT THEY COULD GET THEIR POWER BACK ON BECAUSE WE ALL KNEW THAT WE WERE HAVING THIS COLD FRONT COMING IN REALLY SOON, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT MOST IMPORTANCE. SO THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THEM EXTRA. THANK YOU THIS MORNING.

GOOD. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELLY. YES, SIR. UM, KIND OF ECHOING THE SAME THOUGHTS. UM I LOVED HEARING THE NAME DAVID THORPE, DAVID THORPE. BECAUSE HE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. DAVID AND I ACTUALLY WENT TO GULF COAST TOGETHER, AND HE'S ALSO YET ANOTHER F S U ALUM, SO WE KEEP BRINGING UP IF I SHOOT TODAY? I DO SO ANYWAY, UM BUT, YEAH, THE AMAZING WORK OF FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. I MEAN, THEY CAME AT THE TOP WESTERN AREA QUICKLY WORKED. GOT POWER PUT BACK UP THE MEN AND WOMEN FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UM YOU CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN, UM, INCREDIBLE JOB THAT THEY DO, HELPING PEOPLE PROTECTING PEOPLE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LIVE SHOT. A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THE STORM. I WAS OUT THERE. PULLED OVER THE BRIDGE KIND OF PULLED OVER THE SIDE, WAITING ON THE NEWS CREW TO GET THERE. ONE OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES PULLED IT BEHIND ME. PUT HIS LIGHTS ON AND SO HE HAD TO COME CHECK. IT DIDN'T MATTER WHO WAS OUT THERE. THEY WERE MAKING SURE THAT NO ONE THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE THERE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. SO UM, I CALLED TOM AND THANK THEM FOR NOT TAKING ME TO JAIL THAT MORNING. UM BUT THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ALSO CAME FROM AROUND THE STATE. THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US BECAUSE ALL THESE STORMS THAT COST MONEY WE HAVE TO GET FUNDING. SO WE HAD KEVIN GUTHRIE IMMEDIATELY CAME HERE. SENATOR SCOTT TOWARD CONGRESSMAN DONE. CFO PATROL IS REPRESENTED.

GRIFFITHS SENATOR TRUMBULL JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE GUYS PER STEPPING UP COMING INTO TOWN WASN'T JUST FOR CAROL ROBERTS, RECOGNIZING HER AS A LEADER OF OUR CHAMBER. IT WAS ALSO BECAUSE THE STORM BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT CAME TOGETHER. ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS UP HERE. EVERYBODY STEPPED UP AND DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO HELP EVERY CITIZEN IN THE COUNTY. SO JUST GRATEFUL TO BE UP HERE AND SERVING WITH YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. GREAT. UM YES, I HAVE THIS STORMING. STUFF, I GUESS IS WE'RE PRETTY WELL SEASONED TO IT AFTER MICHAEL UM, SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS COME THROUGH WE THE. PRENUP PRECONCEIVED KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE BUT WE'VE LEARNED IS PUT TO GOOD USE, NO DOUBT. ONE THING OF AROUND THIS THIS STORM OF THAT.

OF COURSE, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE HOUSE AT THE BEACH THAT'S FALLEN OVER ONTO THE OTHER HOUSES. AND THIS IS NOW THE SECOND TIME THAT I KNOW OF THIS HOUSE HAS FALLEN. UM MY PART OF IT FALLING A THIRD TIME DURING CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT WASN'T THERE TO SEE IT, SO I'LL JUST RELY ON THE TWO TIMES THAT I'VE SEEN IT. I WANTED TO FIND IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH STAFF OR WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. UM IT'S. IT'S AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS SITUATION WITH THIS WHEN IT COMES OUT WITHOUT THERE, AND I KNOW THIS HOUSE HAD 1 FT. SETBACKS ON IT. UM WHICH ISN'T INCREDIBLY CLOSE. UM AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO. UM TO ENSURE

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UM IT WAS WHATEVER REASON REMOVED AND THEY CREATED THREE LOTS AND VARIANCE WAS REQUESTED AND GRANTED FOR THE VERY, VERY SMALL SIDE SETBACKS NOT TO SAY THIS WILL CAUSE THE PROBLEMS, HOWEVER. WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL PLANNING BOARD NEEDS TO BE MINDFUL AND STAFF TWO MORE GRANTING VARIANCES. FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU HAVE TO PROVE THE HARDSHIP. UM MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME TIMELINES. AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HARDSHIP TODAY DOESN'T MEAN 10 YEARS FROM NOW, IF THE PROPERTY HAS CHANGED OR GROWTH HAS OCCURRED THAT WOULD YOU LOOK AT SOME KIND OF TIMELINE THAT THE IT DOESN'T JUST RUN FOREVER AND EVER WITH THE LAND, YOU CAN JUST GET TO KEEP REBUILDING, REBUILDING REBUILDING, BUT YOU GET A ONE TIME VARIANCE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS MORE THAN 50% DAMAGE, LIKE ANY OTHER THING, YOU GOT TO GET NEW PERMITS NEW STRUCTURE SO MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEYS FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, CAN IT BE A ONE TIME USE. YOU'VE GOT A YEAR TO USE IT. AH OR AFTER IT'S CONSTRUCTED GOES AWAY . AND IF YOU EVER HAD TO REBUILD, THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND PROVE THE HARDSHIP, RIGHT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT.

YEAH UM I TOO THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS HAVING A JUST A BLANKET.

CONDITIONAL. UM WHEN YOU DO THESE COME BACK AND PROVE IT. I MEAN, IF YOU WERE GRANTED A VARIANCE FOR WHATEVER TO PUT 3 FT FOUR. WHATEVER THAT MEASUREMENT IS, YOU KNOW. YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT YOU DID IT. YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THIS IS ALL HINDSIGHT AND WE WERE WORKING THAT WAY. SO YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY YOU KNOW, WE MAYBE WE LEARN FROM DECISIONS WE MADE BEFORE, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU COME BACK AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO IT JUST DOESN'T GO IN PERPETUITY. AND YOU KNOW, PROVE THAT YOU DID IT.

YOU KNOW THAT IF THAT YOU WITHIN THE 12 INCHES, AND IF YOU'RE NOT THEN YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO MOVE IT. IT BECOMES A VERY I SHOULD SAY I REALLY DANGEROUS BUT IT'S VERY PRECARIOUS THING TO DO.

WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING ON SHORT SETBACKS, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T GET IN THAT SET BACK, YOU KNOW YOUR EMERGING AND IT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLAY WITH FIRE WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEN IF YOU IF YOU'RE ENCROACHING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHRINK IT MAKE IT SMALLER BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND GET A SECOND VARIANCE TO GO WELL. YOU KNOW, WE TRIED FOR 12 INCHES, BUT WE ONLY WE WERE AT EIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S BUT YEAH, THERE'S THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YOU KNOW, SO IT JUST DOES IT. KEEP GOING PERPETUITY WHEN YOU HIT A I THINK MOST OF OUR STUFF REVOLVES AROUND 50% DAMAGE OR MORE, YOU KNOW, UM SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THRESHOLD. IF YOU SUFFER, YOU KNOW, 50% OR MORE, AND I KNOW LIKE I THINK WE'RE FEMALE. IT'S CUMULATIVE GOES OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD. WE GO BACK AND CAPTURE THAT 50. FOR FEMA GUIDELINES. UM BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT. I KNOW CLAIRE AND I BOTH HAVE LOOKED AT THIS HOUSE QUITE A BIT. OUT THERE. SOMETHING'S JUST NOT DONE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, UM UM, BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S SOMETHING'S NOT SOMETHING'S JUST NOT QUITE RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS

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YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, UM SOMEONE OUT THERE NOW THE HOUSE IS BUILT TOO LOW. AND THE HOUSE IS JUST ABOUT DONE. AND SO YOU KNOW THEY WERE REALLY IN A PICKLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WAVE ON THAT. UM YOU KNOW, YOUR FLOOD YOUR FLOOD ELEVATION. WE THERE'S NO GIVE ON THAT. BUT THE THRESHOLD INSPECTOR, IT HAD A REGULAR INSPECTION PLUS A THRESHOLD INSPECTION. YEAH IT WAS, UH, IT WAS INTERESTING, BUT I THINK THAT WE'LL FIND THAT MAYBE THE, UM THEY ONLY ALLOW EXCEPT BACK TO CHANGE ON ONE SIDE OF THAT HOUSE, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR US WAS SETBACKS ON, UH, BILL BACK. YEAH, ONLY ALLOWED. AND I READ THE THIRD SHOULDER INSPECTION COURSE. THE THRESHOLD DOESN'T GET INTO SETBACKS. THEY'RE LOOKING AT STRUCTURAL STRUCTURAL. WAS IT BUILT? I GUESS BASICALLY FOR THE PLAN, SURE, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT INSPECTIONS FOR. BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S OTHER THINGS WHEN WE ASK PEOPLE TO BUILD 12 INCHES OVER THE CROWN OF THE ROAD. WE REALLY NEVER NEVER GO BACK AND REALLY ASK HIM. DID YOU? DID YOU DO IT? DID YOU PROVE IT? UM YOU KNOW, SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. ON IT BECOMES A CONTINUAL PROBLEM. I THINK WE NEED TO STEP IN AND TRY TO ADDRESS SOMETHING. THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT WHEN WE'RE ASKING WHERE THE DITCHES PUT IN PROPERLY ON THE HOUSE THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN A SUBDIVISION WHERE WE COME BACK AND HAVE ALL OF THESE FLOODING PROBLEMS IS BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T PUT THE THEY DIDN'T PUT THE LITTLE SWELL IN OR WHATEVER, LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. SO IT GOES ALONG THOSE LUNGS, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THAT'S COVERED IN SOMETHING ON THE BLANKET. YEAH.

YEAH, BECAUSE, UM ARE. EXCEPT I GUESS YOU GET JUST BECAUSE THIS IS BUT A MULTIPLE. OCCURRENCE HERE. THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THEY'RE JUST NOT QUITE AND I THINK WE NEED I GUESS REALLY KIND OF FROM A CONSUMER PROTECTION THING IS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TOO. MAKE SURE LIKE I SAID, JUST KEEP REITERATING JUST, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. THERE WERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY IN THE HOUSE NEXT TO THE ONE THAT WAS BEING LEANED ON TWO RIGHT AFTER THE STORM, SO AT BUILDING SPECTRUM IS ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND RED TAG LINK ALL FOUR OF THOSE HOUSES. MM YEAH, WE COULD GET SOMETHING FIGURED OUT. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S A MESS. NO DOUBT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WELL I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. AND

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