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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WE LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ORDER IT IS FEBRUARY

[A.  CALL TO ORDER]

6 2024. THE TIME IS 9 A.M. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZER HERE, COMMISSIONERSIONER PIECE CHAIRM. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORRIS ABSENT ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE OUR INDICATION HAS LESS WILL BE LED BY A PASTOR, CARMEN HARPER. YES, MA'AM. THERE YOU ARE. AND OUR PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER DOZER. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND LET'S PRAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER. WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR GUIDANCE, WISDOM AND SUPPORT AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING. HELP US TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. ALLOW US TO GO CLOSE CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY. FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE. LORD GOD AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT US AND ALL THOSE AROUND US. CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT ALL THAT WE DO HERE TODAY THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED IS FOR THE FIRST STATE OF TRUTH FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOU.

AND FOR THE SERVICE OF HUMANITY. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. THANK YOU, LADIES.

FOR WHICH IT STANDS. VISIBLE WITH LIBERTY INVESTORS. ALL RIGHT, UM. ANY ADDITIONS OR

[E.  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]

DELETIONS? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN I'VE HAD A REQUEST TO ADD A CONVERSATION ABOUT LIFEGUARDS AND SURF RESCUE STAFFING UNDER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. OKAY. UNDER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. GUESS WHAT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, BUT YOUR CAR WE GET APPROVAL TO ALRIGHT MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA APPROVED.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER PIECE DOZER

[G.  PRESENTATIONS]

CHAIRMAN HAM. YES MA'AM. NEXT WE'VE BEEN TWO PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE COMMANDER MICHAEL MOTIVES.

MOSEY, COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE TORNADO THAT WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. YES GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE HOW YOU ALL DOING? RIGHT, UM TOO OFTEN. GOOD DEEDS GO WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED AND CALLED OUT AND SO I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ A LETTER. UM, TO YOU ALL SO THIS IS ADDRESSED TO, UH MR MICA. BUT TO THE TEAM IN REALLY LARGE SO THEY WILL SUPPORT ACTIVITY. PANAMA CITY WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY THE BAY COUNTY ROADS AND BRIDGES CREW WHO WORKED THE CLEANUP EFFORTS AFTER TORNADOES ON JANUARY 9TH 2024. DIRECTIONS HELPED TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE INSULATION AND EVERYONE ALONG TIMES DRIVE. MANY TIMES THEIR EFFORTS GO UNNOTICED, SO I WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM FOR THEIR ACTIONS THAT MORNING. ON JANUARY 9TH 2024. DEBRIS CAUSED BY A PASSING TORNADO WAS SCATTERED ALONG THOMAS DRIVE, INCLUDING DEFENSE LINE OF TENNESSEE, PANAMA CITY. A METAL STRUCTURE FROM A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY FOUND ITS WAY ACROSS TIMES, DR. DAMAGING OUR PERIMETER FENCE. FOR OUR PERSONALITY, REPAIR THE DAMAGE A PLAN TO REMOVE THE LARGE METAL STRUCTURE WAS NEEDED. BEFORE THAT PLAN. COULD BE EXECUTED. YOUR ROADS AND BRIDGES CREW SHOWED UP TO REMOVE THE DEBRIS. AFTER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THE STRUCTURE WAS REMOVED, ALLOWING OUR PERSONNEL TO MAKE THE NEEDED REPAIRS TO SECURITY INSTALLATION AND MAINTAIN OUR OPERATIONAL READINESS. BAY COUNTY IS A COMMITTED COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS ONE ANOTHER IN TIMES OF NEED. THEIR ACTIONS EMBODIED ONE OF THE GREATEST COMMANDMENTS. LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND FOR SURE, IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH SELFLESS SERVICE IS ABOUT WE'RE TRULY GRATEFUL TO EVERYONE AND THE ROADS AND BRIDGES DEPARTMENT . PLEASE PASS ALONG HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEIR HARD WORK. AND EFFORTS A FEW WEEKS AGO. SINCERELY. FROM ME. THANK YOU ALL TRULY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS TRULY APPRECIATE BEING A COMMUNITY PARTNER AND BEING A NEIGHBOR TO YOU ALL. BREAK BREAK . I HAVE ONE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT. I WANT TO MAKE REAL QUICK. THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK. THE INSTALLATION IS GOING THROUGH A MATTER OF FACT, ALL INSTALLATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE GOING THROUGH A SECURITY EXERCISE CALLED CIVIL SHIELD, AND SO SOLID CURTAIN THIS WEEK WILL HAVE INTERNAL EXERCISES SO NO IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT NEXT WEEK WILL BE

[00:05:01]

ELEVATING OUR FORCE PROTECTION CONVICTIONS. THOSE ARE NOT SIMULATED. THOSE ARE ACTUAL, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ENFORCE THE MEASURES REQUIRED AS WE STEP UP OUR FORCE PROTECTION CONDITION. THIS MAY RESULT IN SOME TRAFFIC ON THOMAS DRIVE. JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WAY. YOU ALL ARE PREPARED FOR THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMANDER. SHARKS. I GUESS NEXT WE'RE GOING TO, UM PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. OKAY SEE YOU. NONE WILL CLOSE

[I.  APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

THE FORUM AND GO INTO CONSENT. MR MICHAEL? YES, SIR. MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. TODAY ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA UNDER THE CLERK OF COURT. SOMEONE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES DEATHS RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS. UNDER THE BUDGET ISLAND OFFICE ITEM TO FY 2024 BUDGET AMENDMENTS. STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BOARDED OFF THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET. UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY ITEM THREE RENEWAL, THE CLERKS COMMERCIAL LEASE AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE RENEWAL OF THE CLERK COMMERCIAL LEASE AGREEMENT FOR 1100 WEST 26TH STREET FOR ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME UNDER COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD REVIEW AND CONFIRM THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF MIKE JANSSEN AND ANDY PHILLIPS TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. UNDER GENERAL SERVICES ITEM. FIVE R F Q. 23-41 STEEL FIELD ROAD LANDFILL LEADERSHIP MANAGEMENT SYSTEM DESIGNED STASH RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD APPROVED THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATING SCHEDULE RATES AND TASK ORDER ONE WITH GEO CENTRIC CONSULTANTS INC. NOT TO EXCEED PRICE OF $36,291 AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. ADAM SIX OFF SYSTEM BRIDGE PROJECT AMENDMENTS WITH F . D O. T STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS . THE BOARD APPROVED THE OFF SYSTEM PROJECT AGREEMENTS WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR SCOTT ROAD BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND SCOTT'S VERY RUDE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN BOTH AGREEMENTS AND RESOLUTIONS. MR CHAIRMAN. THAT'S YOUR CONSENT AGENDA AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT. WE'VE GOT EMOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOES YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER KAREL YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER PIECE CHAIRMAN. HAM? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE NOTHING FOR

[L.  PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (LIMITED TO ITEMS WHICH THE COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY)]

REGULAR AGENDA NORTH PUBLIC HEARING. WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT'S OPEN TO ANY ISSUE RELATED TO BAY COUNTY. YES, SIR. IF YOU WOULD NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. I'M PATRICK CHAPIN. AND I DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS. I GUESS IT'S THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUILDING. UM I'LL TELL YOU THAT IN ONE SECOND ON THE NEW PRESIDENT, CEO OF THE CHAMBER BAY COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I JUST WANTED TO CALL COME UP AND INTRODUCED MYSELF. THANK YOU , UM, FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND, UH WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE THE OPTIMISM THAT I FEEL, UM, REALLY BROUGHT ME DOWN HERE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ALSO TO THE STAFF. UM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND ANYTHING WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO. UM I'M HERE FOR YOU SO GREAT TO MEET SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU. AND I'M REALLY EXCITED. BEING A COUNTY. THE ADDRESS IS 235 WEST FIFTH STREET. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY. YEAH, GLAD YOU'RE HERE. YOU HAVE SOME BIG CHEESE TO FILL? YEAH, MISS CAROL'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. YEAH. IS THERE ANY ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY NO.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND WE'LL GO INTO COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. MR CHAIRMAN, COUNTY MANAGER, FORT NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR CHAIRMAN. OKAY, WE'LL GO INTO GERMANY

[O.  CHAIRMAN'S REPORT AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS]

COMMISSIONER COMMENTS I LOVE YOU. THIS PIECE START, ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT TODAY. ADDITIONAL LIFEGUARDS, STAFFING. UM WE HAD A LITTLE MEETING IN THE. THE FOLKS HAVE PUT TOGETHER A STAFFING MODEL, WHICH IS GOING TO INCLUDE SEVEN NEW FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. THESE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES WILL BE USED ON THE BEACH DURING PEAK SEASON AND FIRE SERVICE IN PARKS DURING NON SEASON. SO UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON DURING THE NON SEASON. UM PREPARING FOR THE SEASON. THAT OFTEN WE DON'T EVEN REALIZE THE DETAILS. OF THE SEVEN POSITIONS ARE ONE FIRE LIEUTENANT SUPERVISED. TOO FAR. ENGINEERS FOR LIFEGUARDS. THAT ESTIMATE FOR THE SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS FOR THE SEVEN NEW POSITIONS AS $596,000.

OPERATIONAL COSTS OR ESTIMATED AT 60,704. INSURANCE APPAREL TRAINING, THAT SORT OF THING.

THE CAPITAL CALLS THIS ESTIMATED AT 99,000. FOR TOWERS, A TVS, RESCUE BOARDS AND THE EQUIPMENT

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THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB. CURRENTLY STAFF MEMBERS ARE CALLED IN ON THEIR DAYS OFF TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COVERAGE ON DOUBLE RED FLAG DAYS. THESE NEW EMPLOYEES DEDICATED TO SURF RESCUE WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED HELP ON THOSE DAYS. ALSO THE OVERTIME COSTS WILL WILL WILL BE REDUCING STAFF WILL HAVE DAYS OFF TO REST. SO LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF DOUBLE RED FLAGS. ARE NOT SURE OF OUR CALL STONE OVER TIME, BUT IT WAS. IT WAS HUGE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE WORN OUT. AND WHEN YOU WERE OUT THERE IN THAT SUN AND ESPECIALLY ON DOUBLE RED WHEN THE WIND IS KILLING IT OUT THERE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE LIVES. IT'S EVEN WORSE. IT'S EVEN TOUGHER SO. I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT TRYING TO, UM GET THIS EXTRA PROGRAM GOING IN AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT. JUST SOME DISCUSSION. JUST PUTTING OPPORTUNITY FOR TDC. THAT'S OUR FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR TDC. I MEAN, I THINK INITIALLY TO GET US ROLLING. SO WE CAN START THE HIRING PROCESS AND BE PREPARED TO GO INTO THE SEASON, WE WOULD PROBABLY BRING BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. BUT TO MOVE SOME MONEY OUT OF RESERVE. BUT ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE TDC ABOUT USING PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS TO COVER THAT. AND JUST TO ADD TO WHAT COMMISSIONER PIECE SAID, UH , OPERATIONALLY. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN LAST YEAR IS, UM YOU KNOW, WE MAY BEGIN WITH THE DAY WHERE WE HAVE YELLOW FLAGS. AND THEN TRANSITION TO READ AND THEN REALLY QUICKLY TO DOUBLE RED.

AND IN THAT SCENARIO OF SURF RESCUES ROLE IS THE SUPPLEMENT WHAT THE COUNTY LIFEGUARDS DO AND WHAT THE SHERIFF THOUGHT. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON THE COUNTY SIDE AS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR BEACH PATROL AND SURF RESCUE AND SO FAR YOU KNOW, SUPPLEMENTS THAT WHEN THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR LIFE, GROCERY PARKS AND REC, SO AS THAT'S UNFOLDING DURING THE DAY WE HAD TO DO LAST YEAR WAS BEGIN CALLING PEOPLE IN OFF DUTY. TO STAFF UP AND THAT'S THAT'S OCCURRING. YOU'VE GOT ACTIVE RESCUES GOING ON ON THE BEACH. YOU'VE GOT THE REGULAR E.

M S AND FIRE CALLS THAT ARE OCCURRING JUST NOT VERY NOT A VERY EFFICIENT WAY OF CONDUCTING BUSINESS ON THESE DAYS WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE SITUATIONS. AND SO, PLUS STAFF UP IN THIS MANNER OPERATIONALLY WILL ALLOW US TO ON THOSE DAYS, THOSE PERSONNEL WILL ALREADY BE ON DUTY. UM DAY TO DAY DURING THE SEASON IF WE DON'T HAVE ACTIVE DOUBLE RED FLAG DAYS, THERE'LL BE RESPONDING TO FIRE CALLS WILL BE ANSWERING THE MSK. ALSO, WE'LL PICK UP ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY ON THE FIRE RESCUE SIDE AS WELL. BUT ON THE RED DOUBLE RED FLAG DAYS, THEIR PRIMARY MISSION WILL BE ON THE SAND AND TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COMMISSIONER PIECES SAYING TO FOLD SAFETY ISSUES FOR MAY, 1 WE CAN'T HAVE THESE PERSONNEL OUT THERE, AFFECTING THE NUMBER OF RESCUES THAT THEY'RE AFFECTING AND EXERTING THEMSELVES AND THEN BE PULLING THEM BACK AND THEN ALSO EXPECTING THEM TO GO ANSWER FIRE CALLS. IT IS JUST NOT PHYSICALLY. THE BEST SAFETY APPROACH TO DO THAT. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE ENERGY THAT IT TAKES TO GO SWIM OUT THERE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO, RESCUE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AND THEN COME BACK AND THEN GO BACK TO THE FIRE STATION AFTER SUNDOWN AND THEN BE ANSWERING FIRE CALLS ALL NIGHT.

THE OTHER THING IS, UM, JUST JUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME THESE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SPENDING THE WATER ON DOUBLE RED FLAGS, ACTUALLY. AFFECTING RESCUES. UM. THE OVERTIME MODEL DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY PLAN FOR DAYS OFF. SO A LOT OF OUR FOLKS LAST YEAR WERE WORKING SEVEN DAYS 14 DAYS STRAIGHT. EITHER BETWEEN THEIR ASSIGNED DUTIES AT THE FIREHOUSE AND THEN THEIR OVERTIME DUTIES. UM WHEN THEY'RE WORKING, SURF RESCUE, SO THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO EAT TO ALLEVIATE THAT. SO, UM, JUST BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION SINCE LAST SEASON BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MYSELF AND STAFF. WE HAD A MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH COMMISSIONER PIECE BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT SHE'S CHAMPIONED.

WHERE WE, UM, KIND OF FLESHED OUT THIS STAFFING PLAN, BUT WHAT I SHARED WITH HER WAS WE WOULD NEED DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH IMPLEMENTING THAT. AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. THEIR PLAN WOULD BE TO BRING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING TO PUT THE FUNDING IN PLACE. IT'S JUST THE OTHER PROBLEM IS WE NEVER KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DOUBLE RED FLAGS AND WE HAVE, UM I'D ASKED FOR A WRITTEN PLAN. YOU KNOW? WHAT DO WE DO? SO WE ALL HAVE IT MAPPED OUT AND WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO YOU REALLY DO? THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO IT. THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE. UM WE DID DISCUSS USING THE CODE OFFICERS. UM IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, MR MICHAEL BELL. HOW WE PLAN TO USE THEM TO HELP WITH WITH SOME OF THEM.

YES, MA'AM, SO IT'S A TIER. IT'S BEEN A TIERED. UM RESPONSE. IF YOU WILL, AS THINGS ESCALATE, ADDITIONAL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN AND SO CODES MISSION. LAST YEAR WAS TO GET ON THE BEACH AND REALLY HELP WITH INFORMING THE PUBLIC AND TELLING PEOPLE TO STAY OUT OF THE WATER

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ON DOUBLE RED FLAG DAYS BECAUSE THE TYPICAL SURF RESCUE PERSONNEL ARE BUSY GOING INTO THE WATER, GETTING PEOPLE UM IT'S ALSO A MAJOR UNDERTAKING TO GET THE FLAG SYSTEM CHANGED. YOU CAN IMAGINE ON THE DAY WHEN YOU START THE MORNING THE MORNING OUT. THE FORECAST IS YELLOW FLAGS, THEN IT GOES TO DOUBLE RED. ALL THOSE FLAGS ALONG THE BEACH HAVE TO BE CHANGED, AND SO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS TIME ALLOWS ITS THOSE BEACH. IT'S THE LIFEGUARDS. IT'S THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UM BEACH PATROL FOLKS, IT'S YOU KNOW, THE RANK AND FILE THAT ARE DOING THAT WE GO TO DOUBLE RED. THEY'RE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY IN THE WATER, JUST GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF WATER. AND SO THAT LAG THAT FLAG CHANGING WAGS AND YOU CAN HAVE AN AREA WHERE YOU'VE GOT DOUBLE RED FLAGS AND YELLOW FLAGS ARE STILL FLYING. SO CODES PRIMARY PURPOSE ON DAYS LIKE THAT WILL BE TO GO OUT. GET THE FLAGS CHANGED FIRST, AND THEN GET ON THE STAND AND START WITH THE KIND OF THE CUSTOMER SERVICE GOING UP AND DOWN THE BEACH, TELLING PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THE WATER. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME TECHNOLOGY. TO CHANGE THE WARNING SYSTEM WERE, UM I THINK PRETTY CLOSE TO DEMOING. UM, AN ACTUAL WE'VE GOT SOME UM, SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT WE KNOW THAT WILL WORK. WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GO TO A LIGHTING SYSTEM VERSUS THE FLAG SYSTEM WHERE THOSE LIGHTS THOSE LIGHTS WILL BE CHANGED FOR ONE DEPUTY WILL BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT FROM THEIR CELL PHONE. ALL THE LIGHTS. AT THE END OF THE BEACH ACCESSES. IT'LL GO FROM YELLOW TO RED, DOUBLE RED. WHATEVER THE SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT THERE AT SOME POINT, BUT THE WE'RE HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME MANUFACTURERS, THE MANUFACTURERS AND SOME SOFTWARE PEOPLE THAT BUT HOW TO DO THAT, HAVING PEDIGREE THAT SO? IT IS A MULTIFACETED APPROACH, BUT IT JUST LAST SEASON WAS REALLY AN EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU'RE DOUBLE RED, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE IN OFF DUTY. BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE ANY M S AND FIRE MISSION. YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE LIFEGUARDS. THEY NEED THAT BACKFIELD. THEY NEED THOSE EXTRA BODIES. BEACH STUFF.

LAST SUMMER WAS DEFINITELY EXCEPTIONAL. NO DOUBT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WEATHER PATTERNS SEEM TO BE, BUT IT WAS, UM IT MADE IT VERY ROUGH. YES. LAST LAST SUMMER WITH THE RIPTIDE AND STUFF, WHICH WAS THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON OUT THERE FOR SURE. WELL THE OTHER THE OTHER SIDE TO THIS IS WE I WOULD HOPE THAT BEFORE SPRING BREAK COMES THAT WE CAN SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH AND HAVE A MEETING AND GET THESE TEAMS TOGETHER BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE SHOWING A DOUBLE RED FLAG, AND THEY'RE NOT OR VICE VERSA, IT CONFUSES EVERYONE THAT COMES DOWN HERE AND IT'S REALLY NOT PRODUCTIVE AT ALL. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT I DON'T KNOW. IF MR MIKE I CAN TRY TO GET A MEETING TOGETHER AND LET'S JUST SIT DOWN AND SEE IF WE CAN IRON OUT.

WHATEVER WHATEVER THIS PROBLEM IS THAT IT USED TO BE JUST THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND MY RIGHT THAT WOULD SAY EVERYTHING WENT TO DOUBLE RED. I'M NOT SURE YES, MA'AM, FOR THE LONGEST TIME UNTIL ABOUT MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. UM THERE WAS COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TDC, THE CITY AND THE SHERIFF. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF THERE WAS A DISAGREEMENT ON WHAT THE FORECAST IS GOING TO BE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS THE END. THE END DETERMINING AGENCY AND THAT'S WANED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WE HAVE HAD SOME SITUATIONS WHERE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA MAY BE WORTH AT ONE FLAG, AND, UM, THE LIMITS THAT SITS AT ANOTHER FLAG, SO WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO WORK ON IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEY'RE SAYING WELL, THE FLOW IS NOT DOUBLE RED. THERE. I CAN GO IN THE WATER. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO THAT HAS TO BE SOLVED THIS YEAR. I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO SURELY WE CAN SIT DOWN AND AGREE ON SOMETHING WITHOUT WELL, THE YOU YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING. FUNDING IDEAS. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS YOU KNOW THIS IT'S YOU MENTIONED TDC. YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, UM, WE HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF. I GUESS. HE CALLED A GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT TO SPLIT. 10% OF THE TDC. THAT'S. FOR SAFETY, BUT SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T OCCURRED. MORE COST. FOR HELICOPTER FOR THE SHERIFF, MOBILE COMMAND CENTER, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL LIFEGUARDS OUT THERE AS WELL. UH UM. THAT. MAYBE WITH THE TDC THAT WE CAN GET 100% OF THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF JUST HALF OF IT. I MEAN, FROM THE SHERIFF TO JAIL. ALL THAT STUFF GOES TO FOR ALL THE BEACH, NOT JUST PORTIONS OF IT AND GROWING. YOU HAVE BROTHERS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT MIGHT BE AN AVENUE THERE TO LOOK FOR THAT. UM YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HELICOPTER AND ALL THAT. WE JUST FOLLOW BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WOULD WOULD THE SHERIFF TAKING THE LEAD OUT THERE? IF ANY THEY WERE TO HAPPEN ANYWHERE OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO HE'S GOING TO JUMP ON IT. YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE TYPE OF RESOURCES, YOU KNOW THAT. THAT

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THEY WERE FUNDING. FOUND THE BENEFITS. WHOLE PLACE. I MIGHT BE A WAY OF GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE. I WOULD LIKE EVENTUALLY TO SEE US HAVE A BEACH AND SURF RESCUE TEAM THAT IS JUST FOR BEACH AND SURF AND NOT SOME OF THE COUNTY SUMMER SHERIFF SOME OF THE BEACH THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM GET AN UNDERSTANDING AND HAVE A TEAM THAT DOES NOTHING BUT THAT AND I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT, AND WE'VE JUST NOT QUITE GOTTEN THERE YET. SO. UM I DON'T KNOW THAT. TAKING THE MONEY AWAY FROM THE BEACH IS MAYBE COMBINING THIS TEAM AND LETTING THE MONEY PAY FOR THAT TEAM IF THAT'S MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE EVERYBODY GETTING IN THE ROOM TOGETHER AND HAVING A YOU KNOW AN ADULT CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AND WOULD YOU? WOULD YOU RUN OVER THE NUMBERS AGAIN? YOU HAD SOME NUMBERS YOU YOU ARE GIVEN AND THE AMOUNT OF PERSONNEL AND THE AND THE MONEY. WELL I CAN TELL YOU FOR THIS EXTRA, BUT I HOPE THAT MAYBE MR MIKE CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE HAVE. WE'RE SPENDING ALREADY, WHICH IS MORE THAN THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT WITH YOU, OR YOU CAN HAVE THAT WOMEN GET IT TO YOU AND YOUR UPDATES THIS WEEK, OKAY? YEAH. SO WE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT I HAVE HERE AGAIN. SO IT'S FOR SEVEN NEW POSITIONS TOTALING 596,000. THE OPERATIONAL COST IS 60,750 THAT'S FOR INSURANCE, APPAREL AND TRAINING. THE CAPITAL. COST ESTIMATE IS 99,004 TOWERS, YOU KNOW, LIFEGUARD TOWERS, A TVS AND RESCUE BOARDS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE FIRE LIEUTENANT, SUPERVISED TOO FAR, ENGINEERS AND FOR LIFEGUARDS. AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY, UM. EASILY. PHILIP POSITIONS. WE HAVE A TOUGH TIME GETTING LIKE GUARDS. SO UM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING. YOU KNOW THE MOST WE CAN PAY CELERY WAS AND GET THE BEST. WHAT I HATE TO SEE IS SOMEONE EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THEY'RE STRONG AND FULLY CAPABLE OF SWIM RESCUES PEOPLE THAT ARE NORMALLY DOING A DIFFERENT JOB. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE THERE. THROWN INTO A SWIM OUT THERE AND SAVE SOMEBODY WHEN IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY PRACTICE EVERY DAY. WHEN I WAS OUT ON THE BEACH LAST YEAR, I WAS PRAYING EVERY SECOND. I WAS OUT THERE THAT I DIDN'T SEE SOMEBODY DROWN BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WOULD BE IN TROUBLE IF I HAD TO TRY TO GET THEM SO UM THE TRAINING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

YES, IT IS. SO IS THERE A WAY YOU DO YOU THINK WE CAN? DOES EVERYONE AGREE? WE MIGHT WANT TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A MEETING WITH THE BEACH AND TRY TO GET ON THE SAME. WELL, IF I COULD KEEP THOSE THOSE ISSUES SEPARATE IF THE GOAL IS TO GET STAFFED UP AND BE ROLLING FOR THE SEASON THAT I NEED TO I NEED DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH ME TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUES ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A UNIFIED TEAM OUT THERE OR THE FLAG WARNING.

ISSUES WE CAN. WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THOSE, BUT I THINK WE ADDRESS THOSE IN PARALLEL TO THE TO THE ISSUE OF STAFF. I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE RESERVES. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, TRYING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL FUNDS OUT OF RESERVES WHEN WE WERE LIMITED ON THE RESERVES ON OUR BUDGET TO BEGIN WITH, AND WE TRYING TO KEEP OUR MILLAGE DOWN. WE COULD HAVE RAISED THE MILLAGE SOME MORE AND ADDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE RESERVES. AND WE'RE SO WE'RE TIED ON MONEY ON RESERVES, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME EXTRA FUNDING LEFT FROM THAT CATEGORY WITH TBC SO AGAIN. THAT WOULD BE THE I GUESS . YOU KNOW THE REQUEST I WOULD HAVE BACKED COMMISSION WOULD BE AT THE TDC MEETING. YOU ALL TAKE THAT ISSUE UP AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. AND THEN IF THERE'S FUNDS THAT CAN COME FROM THE TDC THAT THEY AUTHORIZED AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT TO PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE RESERVES TO PAY THE COUNTY BACK, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A TIMING ISSUE. WE CAN. WE CAN WAIT UNTIL THE TDC HAS THAT CONVERSATION THAT MAKES THAT DETERMINATION, BUT THAT WILL JUST DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION. UM WHICH IS THE BOARDS? TELL MY FOLKS AT THE OFFICE SPRING BREAKS TOMORROW.

JUST THINK OF IT LIKE IT'S TOMORROW. THAT'S HOW CLOSE IT IS. SO I AM I DOING IT TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD OR WHAT BUDGET AMENDMENT NEXT MEETING RIGHT? I WOULD PREFER THE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. YES AND THEN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD BE IF THE FUNDING DOESN'T OCCUR THEN. I MEAN, WE'RE DONE, BUT BUT TO MOVE TO FOR HR TO HAVE THERE WERE BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE CREATING POSITIONS IN THE IN THE STAFFING MODEL THAT I DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY. I CAN'T DO THAT BY MYSELF. SO I NEED YOU GUYS TO AUTHORIZE THE POSITIONS AND FUNDING THEM AND THEY WILL BRING YOU THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO DO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, AND

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THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION OR DECIDE YOU DON'T WANT TO. IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE'RE DONE TODAY. WE CAN JUST WE CAN VOTE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO TIE ANYTHING DOWN TODAY. JUST JUST BEEN BROUGHT TO US. I WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE. YOU KNOW, FIND OUT MORE FACTS AND DO SOME MORE HOMEWORK ON THIS BEFORE I VOTE ON ANYTHING WE BRING YOU THE WHOLE THING UNDER 11 BOARDMAN EVENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH AUTHORIZATION FOR THE POSITIONS AND FOR THEM AND FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS HAVE TIME TO HAVE SPOKEN WITH. BDC OR TIMING WAS ON THAT DC IS GONNA HAVE TO REMEMBER AFTER REMEMBER UNDER THE STATUTE HOW THE FUNDS ARE APPLIED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE T V. C. SO YEAH, THE WAY THAT FUNDS ARE SPLIT RIGHT NOW IS A GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE BEACH. BUT ULTIMATELY, THE TDC MAKES THE DECISION ON YEAH, I THINK THE STATUTE SAYS IT'S 10% SO GOING ABOVE THE 10% I THINK OF THE STATUTORY LIMITATION. WHATEVER THAT 10% PRODUCES AND HOW THAT IS. DISTRIBUTED OR APPLIED IS UP TO THE T. V. C. THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE JUST HAD A GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT IT GETS SPLIT 5050. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF THE TDC SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE 6040 OR 2010, 2080 WHATEVER THAT THAT RESTS WITH AS AS AN ADVISORY BOARD. THAT'S THE WAY THE STATUTE IT IS WRITTEN. SO WE T D. C WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, UM THAT HAPPENED TO MY UNDERSTANDING UNDERSTANDING IS THE TDC WOULD HAVE TO WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE YOU WOULD HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO SO IS THERE A WAY TO KEEP IT ON A 5050 WITH THESE HIRING THESE NEW FOLKS, IS THERE A WAY TO PUT 50 SO THE SPLIT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE RUNNING THE WHOLE BEACH NOW, WHEN SOMEBODY THINKS THAT THEY'RE STOPPING AT AT THE LINE OF THE COUNTY, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO ACROSS OVER THERE, AND I CAN'T. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE FOR THE BEACHES, FINANCES. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT 50% OF THE COUNTY RECEIVES WE THEN SPLIT AGAIN. 50% BETWEEN US AND THE SHERIFF AND NEITHER OF US ARE MADE WHOLE. SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE T D. C TO THE COUNTY OR NOT, THAT IS NOT DOESN'T EVEN COVER LIFEGUARDS. THERE'S THE FULL 10% BEING ALLOCATED BY TDC NOW. YEAH I BELIEVE IT IS. AND THEN THERE'S RESERVE EVERY YEAR THAT IS NOT SPENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN HOLDING BACK AND THAT THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD GO TO ASK FOR THIS. NEXT ALLOTMENT, BUT THAT AGAIN, THAT'S ONE TIME MONEY. SO THAT WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED. MAYBE IF WE GOT THROUGH THIS YEAR, WE COULD INVESTIGATE BRINGING THIS TEAM TOGETHER THAT I REALLY BELIEVE IS NECESSARY. AND THEN WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT HAVING TO SPLIT.

SPLIT THE SPLIT. WITH BEACH AND THERE WILL BE BETWEEN WITH THIS. I'M I'M GUESSING TRULY, THEY WILL. BUT GOOD THING WE KNOW TDC BOARDMAN. WELL NOT WHAT A BETTER PERSON TO PITCH. THIS IDEA. YES ALREADY TEXTED PERSON. UH CAN WE GET A WHITE PAPER ON THAT BREAK DOWN EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE WITH THOSE FUNDS AND HOW IT'S DISTRIBUTED. PROBABLY I THINK WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOMETHING LIKE THAT PUT TOGETHER. WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE THAT IF NOT IN YOUR UPDATES THIS WEEK. NEXT FRIDAY A LOT. THANK YOU. OKAY SO THERE'S NO NEED THEM FOR ANY ACTION ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TODAY. WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL PUT ABOARD MEMO ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR THIS ITEM, AND IT WILL BE THE STATE, YOU KNOW, PROVING THE POSITIONS AND THEN AS WELL AS THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, IS THAT ALL FOR MISTY'S ALRIGHT? YES SIR. A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE. LAST WEEK AT THE T P O BOARD MEETING. WE VOTED WORKING, TAKE A COUPLE OF THE BUSSES AND ADD THE BLACK WARNING SYSTEM ON THERE, SO THE BUSSES TRAVELING AROUND TOWN. GET THAT NOTICE OUT. I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT CALL. YEAH UM, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW. MEMBERS OF BAY COUNTY THAT HAVE BIRTHDAYS THIS MONTH. BUT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE SHERRY . SHE'S HAVING HER 29TH BIRTHDAY YET AGAIN. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. AND THEN A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO OH, MEN IN ONE, BUT MAINLY THE MEN NEXT WEEK IS VALENTINE'S DAY. IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO ORDER YOUR FLOWERS. SO IF YOU FORGET YOUR FLOWERS, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. BILL. I ONLY HAVE ONE THING. THE PARKER PEER. UM THEY, PARKER IS JUST BUILT A NEW PEER OUT. AT THE ACTUALLY AT THE FOOT OF KENDALL BRIDGE AND I BELIEVE I FOUND OUT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE RIBBON CUTTING.

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I BELIEVE THIS SATURDAY. SO ANYONE INTERESTED IN THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONTACT PARKER AND FIND OUT THE EXACT TIME WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE RIBBON CUTTING OF THAT DAY AND LOOKS LIKE A REALLY NICE PIERS. SO I'M GONNA CERTAINLY GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT CLOSER AND CHECK IT OUT MYSELF. PROBABLY A LITTLE FISHING OFF OF IT, BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT PARKER'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD AREA.

GOOD SO, UM, I'LL JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR ME AS WELL. THE PAST WEEKEND WAS MARDI GRAS HOPE ANYONE HOPE EVERYONE THAT RESULT THERE HAD A GOOD TIME. IT WAS PROBABLY WHEN THE LARGEST CROWDS THAT WE'VE EVER SEEN, UM SO THE WEATHER WAS PERFECT, AND THERE WAS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CHILDREN THERE WAS IT WAS. IT WAS VERY GREAT EVENT. UM AND I GUESS. LASTLY, UM, THE I WANT TO BRING UP OUR WE'VE EVER BEEN ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE PC AM OUR KIDS, UM, WITH THE SCHOOL THAT THEY HAVE DOWNTOWN. THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS NOW, JUST SHOWING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THEM, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING THEIR OPERATIONS. THEY'RE HAVING SOME INTERNAL ISSUES AND, UM WE WERE HOPING TO SHOW SOME SUPPORT THAT THESE. ISSUES OF MAYBE SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE OR KNOW WHAT THEY'RE. TAKING CONTROL, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP KEEP THE SCHOOL HERE AND JUST SHARE THAT NOW WE'VE HAD STAFF DRAFTED A LETTER FOR ME TO SIGN ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, AND I'M JUST ASKING IF GET THE BOARD'S PLEASURE. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIGN THE LETTER AND SEND IT AND SHOWING SUPPORT FOR THE SCHOOL AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN. WE CAN KEEP IT HERE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB. THEY FEEL A VOID. THERE. THEY HELP PUSH CHILDREN. STUDENTS COMING THROUGH, ESPECIALLY WITH TRADES THAT ARE SO DESPERATELY NEEDED WITHIN OUR NOT ONLY HERE BUT JUST NATIONWIDE, THE TRADE DEFICIT IS VERY LOW. BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP. AND YEAH, THE COMMENTS ON THAT FINE. YEAH I'D LIKE TO SAY I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT LONG AGO THROUGH THE OIL SPILL MONEY, PCM. I WAS ABLE TO REBUILD THEIR DOC. UM AT A POT ONE, AND THEY CAME THROUGH AND GOT A GRANT ON THAT AND HAVE A GREAT FACILITY THERE, AND THEY'VE DONE GREAT FOR COMMUNITY, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT LETTER. A RECOMMENDATION TO HELP THEM ANY WAY WE CAN. GOOD DEAL. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED. MY COUNTY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.