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EVERYONE. WE'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ORDER THE TIME IS 9 A.M. IT'S UH, FEBRUARY 21ST 2024, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEACE CHAIRMAN. HAM YES, MA'AM, UH, THIS MORNING. I AM VACATION TO BE LESS. LED BY PASTOR KLSS OF CALVARY. PANAMA CITY. THE LED BY ANTHONY WORKMAN FROM A VETERANS OFFICE. THERE. HI. GOOD MORNING. BOW YOUR HEADS, FATHER. WE JUST THANK YOU FOR A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN BAY COUNTY. THANK YOU. FOR ALL THESE COMMUNITY LEADERS GONE, OUR COMMISSION OR OR BLESS THIS MEETING HELP US TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, LEAD US AND GUIDE US IN ALL THINGS THAT WE DO. WE'RE SUCH A BLESSED COMMUNITY AND JESUS. LET ME PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? NOTHING FROM STAFF.
[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]
MR CHAIRMAN. OK ANYBODY ELSE? OK, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FIRST TO APPROVE THE SECOND? MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE COMMISSIONER DOZIER YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER, PEACE CHAIRMAN TOWN, MA'AM. ART THIS[PRESENTATIONS]
MORNING. UM WE HAVE SOME, UH, PRESENTATIONS FOR SOME, UM, SERVICE AWARDS. COMMISSIONER DOZIER IS GOING TO TAKE THE TWO SERVICE AWARDS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MOORE WILL DO, UH PROCLAMATION FOR UNITED WAY.I, UH RICHARD NEIGHBORS, PLEASE COME FORWARD. HOW ARE YOU? THIS MORNING. WE'RE HERE TO RECOGNIZE . UM RICHARD NEIGHBOR IS ALSO KNOWN AS RICHIE. YOU LIKE TO GO BY RICHIE, DON'T YOU? YEAH.
RICHIE. UM FOR SOME OUTSTANDING WORK FOR 20 YEARS, WORKING WITH ROADS AND BRIDGES, AND, UH HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT. I LIKE TO READ HERE AND SHARE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT RICHIE. RICHARD NEIGHBORS, ALSO KNOWN AS RICHIE JOINED BAY COUNTY ROADS AND BRIDGES ON JANUARY THE 14TH 2004, ASSUMING THE ROLE IS MAINTENANCE WORKER. RICHARD'S PROMOTION TO SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER IN 2006 RESULTED FROM HIS EXCEPTIONAL SKILL AND DILIGENT WORK ETHIC.
SUBSEQUENTLY HE WAS FURTHER PROMOTED TO THE ROLE OF EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. IN JULY OF 2012 AND THEN TO HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR IN 2013, HIS OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AND EXPERTISE LED TO AN ADDITIONAL PROMOTION TO THE POSITION OF SENIOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR IN 2014. DUE TO HIS, UH UH, DUE TO HIS EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP ABILITIES OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS. HE HAS DEMONSTRATED OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE. AS A CREW LEADER AND A AND HAS EARNED A POSITION OF CONSTRUCTION FOREMAN RICHARD HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE CARE OF BAY COUNTY ROADWAY SYSTEM FOR THE PAST TWO DECADES, DEMONSTRATING HIS INVALUABLE ROLE IN THE ROADS AND BRIDGES DIVISION. WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR 20 YEARS OF DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF BAY COUNTY, RICHARD GREAT JOB, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. I LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR A. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT.
COULD I HAVE? UH, JOSIE? SEE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I WAS SPEAKING EARLIER WITH JOSH AND I TOLD HER THAT, UH, WE GO BACK A LONG WAY. SO I WAS IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS A SURVEYOR. UH UH UH, ON THE SURVEY CREW, UH, WHEN JOSIE WAS, UH, FIRST CAME TO BAY COUNTY, AND SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW STORIES. UH, BUT I TOLD HER I WOULD. I WOULD NOT TELL ANY OF THE STORIES THAT THAT WENT ON, UH, BACK IN THE, UH, BACK IN DURING THAT TIME, UH, THE MID NINETIES, BUT, UM, JOSIE, YOU YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS, AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE
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GOOD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR BAY COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. A LITTLE BIT OF THAT I LIKE TO READ FOR JOSIE. UM ONE THING BEFORE I DO. READ THIS. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT A LOT OF WORK GOES ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. UM WHETHER IT'S UH, PAVING ROADS OR STORM WATER, PREDOMINANTLY STORM WATER, AND THAT WORK IS DONE. A LOT OF THAT WORK IS DONE BY ACQUIRING GRANT MONEY MONEY THAT THAT'S NOT COLLECTED HERE LOCALLY, BUT WE, UH, GRANTS ARE WRITTEN AND JOSIE HAS WRITTEN MANY GRANTS OVER THE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF THE WORK THAT YOU SEE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND WITHOUT THE DILIGENT WORK THAT JOE SHOULD HAVE DONE HAS DONE RIDING THOSE GRANTS, AND IT'S HARD TO WRITE A GRANT AND GET GET THE MONEY THAT BAY COUNTY GETS, UH THROUGH GRANTS AND JOS. SHE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, BRINGING MONEY TO COUNTY THROUGH THE GRANT PROGRAM, WRITING GRANTS, AND, UM SO A LOT OF THE WORK YOU SEE BEING DONE OUT THERE THROUGH STORM WATER OR THROUGH PAVING ROADS HAS COME THROUGH THE EXTRA EFFORTS OF WHAT JOSIE HAS DONE FOR BAY COUNTY, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. ON BEHALF OF BAY COUNTY. WE WANT TO EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS. TO JOSIE SEER FOR 30 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO BAY COUNTY. YOU REMARKABLE JOURNEY FROM ENGINEER ONE TO ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP, UNWAVERING COMMITMENT AND INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY. SINCE JOINING THE COUNTY IN FEBRUARY OF 1994. YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED EXEMPLARY PROFESSIONALISM AND PASSION IN EVERY ROLE YOU'VE UNDERTAKEN.YOUR PROGRESSION YOUR YOUR PROGRESSIVENESS FROM YOUR PROGRESSION FROM ENGINEERING ONE TO STORM WATER ENGINEER THEN TO ENGINEERING DIVISION MANAGER AND ULTIMATELY TO ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR OUTSTANDING CAPABILITIES AND DEDICATION TO EXCELLENCE.
THROUGHOUT YOUR CAREER. YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN SECURING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GRANT FUNDING FOR BAY COUNTY, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT. YOU'RE ADEPT MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNTY C TAX PRO PROJECTS HAVE BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF EXEMPLARY. ENSURING THE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF VITAL INITIATIVES THAT HAVE ENHANCED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. AS YOU REFLECT ON 30 AS YOU REFLECT ON THREE DECADES OF SERVICE TO BAY COUNTY . PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS PROFOUNDLY SHAPED OUR COMMUNITY AND MADE IT A BETTER PLACE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. WE ARE IMMENSELY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, PROFESSIONALISM AND TIRELESS EFFORTS OVER THE YEARS. YOUR PASSION FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO BAY COUNTY. SUCCESS ARE TRULY COMMENDABLE AND GREATLY APPRECIATED. ONCE AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR REMARKABLE MILESTONE. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MANY, MANY MORE YEARS OF CONTINUED SUCCESS FROM YOU AND YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO. IT'S BEEN A. YEAH. AND JOSIE, YOU'VE DONE 30 YEARS, BUT BOB'S GOT YOUR 10 YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION READY SO YOU. YOU YOU CAN SIGN THAT AFTER AFTER THE MEETING. UH, BRITNEY SHE IF Y'ALL COME FORWARD.
YOU LOOK SO EXCITED TO BE UP HERE. OK, UM THIS IS A 211, NORTHWEST FLORIDA PROCLAMATION.
211 DAY 2024. LET'S SEE IF Y'ALL CAN FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN I GET TO THE END. UH, WHEREAS 211 NORTHWEST FLORIDA IS CARRYING AND TRAIN STAFF CONTINUE TO BE THAT BEACON OF HOPE, PROVIDING CRISIS, SUPPORT AND RESOURCES WHEN PEOPLE ARE OVERWHELMED AND DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO TURN AND 211 NORTHWEST FLORIDA IS AVAILABLE WITH LIVE HELP ANY TIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND WHEREAS 211 NORTHWEST FLORIDA IS MY FLORIDA VET, OR FLORIDA VETERAN SUPPORT LINE. PEER TO PEER SUPPORT AND HELPS VETERANS TO READJUST, PROVIDING LINKAGE TO SERVICES FOR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES BY A VETERAN. AND WHEREAS 211 NORTHWEST FLORIDA JOINED THE NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION LIFELINE IN THE FLORIDA 988 COALITION IN OCTOBER. 2022 TO SERVE THOSE EXPERIENCING A SUICIDE OR MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS WITH CONFIDENTIAL ANONYMOUS FREE
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PHONE BASED ACCESS TO BRIEF COUNSELING. EXCUSE ME. BRIEF CRISIS COUNSELING WITH CONNECTIONS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY BASED MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES. AND WHEREAS COLLECTIVELY, THE 211 NETWORK IN THE UNITED STATES IS RESPONDED TO MORE THAN 18 MILLION CALLS FOR HELP EACH YEAR, AND WHEREAS 211 NORTHWEST HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST 988 CALLS ANSWERED RATE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AT 97% GREATLY EXCEEDING THE STATE AVERAGE. NOW THEREFORE , BE IT PROCLAIMED. BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMS FEBRUARY 11TH 2024 AS 211 AWARENESS DAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LADIES. 211 IS A GREAT SYSTEM, AND IT HAS HELPED MANY, MANY PEOPLE. I'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.THANK YOU. THAT MOVES US INTO. UH, NEXT WE GO IN A PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, NOW WILL BE FOR COMMENTS ARE ON THE AGENDA IF YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM DID YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO. ALRIGHT. SEE
[CONSENT AGENDA]
YOU. NO WE'LL CLOSE THE DOOR AND WE'RE GOING TO CONSENT. MR MARCO ? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING THIS MORNING ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA UNDER THE CLERK OF COURTS.REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. FY 2023 ANNUAL INVESTMENT REPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD AND RECEIPT OF THOSE REPORTS. UNDER THE BUDGET OF OFFICE. FY 2024 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET. UNDER ITEM. FOUR FY 2024 FEES AND FINES AMENDMENTS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED AMENDING THE FY 2024 FEES AND FINE SCHEDULE REGARDING THE ADDITION OF PARKING FEES AND DELETING THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION PERMIT TRANSFER FEE UNDER COLLABORATIVE SERVICES.
ITEM. FIVE LINKAGE FEE STUDIES STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE ATTACHED LINKAGE FEE STUDY CONTRACT WITH FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
ITEM SIX FIXED ROUTE AND DEMAND RESPONSE OPERATOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS STAFFS RECOMMENDATION. DOES THE BOARD RESCIND THE PRIOR DECEMBER 5TH 2023 APPROVAL FOR STAFF AND NEGOTIATE A FIXED DROUGHT AND DEMAND RESPONSE OPERATOR CONTRACT APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BAY COUNTY TP TO REJECT ALL SUBMITTED RFP BIDS AND TRENT AND APPROVED TRANSIT STAFF TO ADVERTISE A NEW FIXED ROUTE AND DEMAND RESPONSE OPERATOR CONTRACT. RFP ITEM. SEVEN DEMAND RESPONSE OPERATOR CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT 22 4 DEMAND RESPONSE OPERATOR CONTRACT FOR FIRST TRANSIT INC AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT. UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY ITEM EIGHT RATIFICATION OF THE LEASE RENEWAL FOR REPRESENTATIVE GRIFFITH'S LOCAL OFFICE STAFFS. RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD APPROVED THE LEASE RENEWAL FOR REPRESENTATIVE GRIFFITH'S LOCAL OFFICE AND RATIFY THE CHAIRMAN'S SIGNATURE. ITEM NINE NAMING AND MORALS POLICY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD REVIEW AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED POLICY GOVERNING NAMING AND MEMORIALS FOR THE COUNTY. UH, FOR COUNTY ASSETS ITEM 10 ROAD NAMING STANDARDS, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD REVIEW AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED POLICY GOVERNING ROAD NAMING STANDARDS ITEM, 11 DONATION POLICY STATUS, RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE BOARD REVIEW AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED POLICY GOVERNING DONATIONS TO THE COUNTY. ITEM 12 . PANAMA CITY ROADWAY TRANSFER AGREEMENTS, TAX RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF CERTAIN ROUTES TO THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY. ITEM 13 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO SEEK AN OPINION FROM FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE ITEM. 14 MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL BOARD APPOINTMENTS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD REVIEW THE LETTER SUBMITTED FROM THE MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL APPROVED THE APPOINTMENTS AS REQUESTED ITEM. 15 COUNTY MANAGER SECOND AMENDMENT AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD CONSIDERED AND APPROVED THE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNTY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT. UNDER EMERGENCY SERVICES ITEM. 16 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT R 0201 MODIFICATIONS DASH RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS GRANT MODIFICATION AUTHORIZED STAFF TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUESTED SCOPE OF WORK. UNDER IT, AND JS DEPARTMENT STAFFS RECOMMENDATION IS, UH UH, RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD, A CONTRACT. 23-47 GIS SENIOR DEVELOPER CONSULTANT SERVICES, CONTINUING CONTRACTS TO THE TOP THREE RANK CONSULTANTS AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS IN ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER PUBLIC WORKS ITEM, 18 COUNTY ROAD, 2321. SCOTT GRANT APPLICATION STATUS RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT TO APPLY FOR A SMALL COUNTY OUTREACH PROGRAM GRANT FOR THE RESURFACING OF COUNTY ROAD 2321 FROM HIGHWAY 77 TO DEER POINT. OUT OF 19 PASSPORT LABS INC AGREEMENT APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD APPROVE, AGREE WITH PASSPORT LABS INC FOR SERVICES LICENSE SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL WEB AND MOBILE APPLICATIONS FOR CREATION
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OF A MOBILE PAYMENT, UH, FOR PARKING PROGRAM IMPLEMENT PAY FOR PARKING AT THE COUNTY PIER TO COINCIDE WITH THE RATES ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH AT THE CITY PIER AND ESTABLISH DISCOUNTED RATE FOR ANNUAL PARKING PASS FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS. ITEM 20 SCOTT GRANT FOR REPAIRS TO STAR AVENUE BRIDGE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SMALL COUNTY OUTREACH PROGRAM GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR REPAIRS TO STAR AVENUE BRIDGE OVER CALLAWAY BAYOU AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION AND ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM 21 SUMTER COUNTY PIGGYBACK CONTRACT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED STAFF TO UTILIZE THE SUMTER COUNTY FLORIDA'S CONTRACT WITH ASPHALT PAVING SYSTEMS INC AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT IN ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY I'M 22 CD R MCGUIRE INC TASK ORDER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS . THE BOARD APPROVED TASK ORDER 30 WITH CD R MAGUIRE TO, UH, PROVIDE DISASTER CONSULTING SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE SAYING UNDER THE PURCHASING OFFICE ITEM. 23 IMPACT FEE STUDY CONTRACT AWARDS TO ASK RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD AWARD CONTRACT 24-01 IMPACT FEE STUDY TO THE TOP RANKED FIRM ALFRED BENNETT AND COMPANY AND IN THE AMOUNT OF $498,095 AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. UNDER TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL ITEM. 24 FDEP GRANT 22 B A TWO AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AND 24 B A ONE DASH RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL TO EXECUTE STATE FDEP GRANT 22 B . A TWO AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AND FDP GRANT 24 B A ONE UNDER ITEM. 25 T DC PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS REQUEST DASH RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED REIMBURSEMENT TO THE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THROUGH THE DISBURSEMENT OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX FUNDS FOR THE PUBLIC. SAFETY EXPENDITURES PRESENTED RELATING TO INCREASED TOURISM ON PANAMA CITY BEACH. UNDER TRANSIT ITEM. 26 FDA SECTION 5311 GRANT FY 2024 STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN AND EXECUTE THE F DOT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE FY 2024 FDA SECTION 5311 GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $153,260 ON UTILITY SERVICES ITEM. 27 WATER TREATMENT PLANT RESILIENCY PROJECT ADDITIONAL FILTERS STAFFS RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM BARS DESIGN SOLUTIONS INC FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT RESILIENCY PROJECT. ADDITIONAL FILTERS IN THE EVENT OF THE AGREEMENT CANNOT BE MADE, UH, AUTHORIZED STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE NEXT RANK FIRM UNTIL A SUITABLE AGREEMENT CAN BE MADE. MR CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MOTION. THANK YOU. MOTION IN MULTIPLE SECONDS. YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER, PEACE COMMISSIONER MOORE COMMISSIONER DOZIER YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. A TEXAS IN[Budget Office]
REGULAR AGENDA, UH, NUMBER 28 THROUGH THE REVENUE REFUNDING NOTE SERIES 2024. YEAH. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND CHAIRMEN. BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING IS A MEMO FOR THE REVENUE REFUNDING NOTE SERIES 2024. ALSO YOU HAVE PAPER COPIES OF THE LOAN AGREEMENT AND RESOLUTION THAT WERE CHANGED. UM AFTER WE PUBLISHED THE AGENDA, THE BANKS COUNCIL HAD A FEW MINOR WORDING CHANGES AND NOTHING TO THE TERMS OR MAJOR. UM OUR OUR LEGAL WAS FINE WITH IT. SO WE WENT AHEAD WITH THE CHANGES. UM THE REVENUE REFUNDING NOTE SERIES. 2021 B PRINCIPAL TOTALING $100 MILLION IS DUE MARCH 1ST. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ENOUGH FROM FEMA YET TO PAY THE WHOLE AMOUNT. HOWEVER WE ARE PAYING $50 MILLION ON THAT THE OTHER 50 MILLION WILL BE REFUNDED OR, UM, REFINANCED IN THIS REVENUE NOTE. PFM REVIEWED ALL PROPOSALS AND RECOMMENDED WEBSTER BANK OPTION WITH 3.5 YEARS IN A 4% FIXED INTEREST RATE. ON FEBRUARY 8TH. THE DEBT COMMITTEE VOTED TO RECOMMEND THE SAME PROPOSAL. WE ASK THAT YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED AND APPROVE THE DEBT COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION OF WEBSTER BANK FOR 3.5 YEARS AT 4% INTEREST AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN, DESIGN ALL RELATED FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND HOW MUCH IS LEFT OUTSTANDING ON THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT BORROWED, UH, WE ORIGINALLY BORROWED 300 MILLION. AFTER THIS. WE WILL HAVE 100 MILLION LEFT. UM, WHAT WAS THE INTEREST RATE 4% THIS INTEREST RATE NOW THE 2021 WAS WHEN OUR INTEREST RATES WERE MUCH LOWER. WE HAD A 0.7. I BELIEVE YES, 0.7% SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING UP ON INTEREST. SO HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE BUDGET[00:20:04]
AND WHAT PORTION OF THIS WAS BEING PAID BY FEMA OR UM. SO INTEREST IS NOT BEING PAID BY FEMA AT THIS TIME. WE DO HAVE, UM, SOMETHING IN THE WORKS. HOPEFULLY THAT GETS APPROVED, BUT AT THIS TIME, NOTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED. UM ALL OF THE INTEREST IS BEING PAID BY THE COUNTY AND IT IS DISPERSED THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR FUNDS, UM, DEPENDING ON WHICH FUNDS HAVE USED THE DEBT. WAS THE 4% OR DID WE KNOW AT THE TIME WE DID THE BUDGET? IT WAS GONNA BE FOUR CONSENT. WAS THAT IN OUR BUDGET? UH WE DO HAVE INTEREST IN BUT I DO NOT THINK WE HAD THIS MUCH INTEREST IN DID WE THINK THAT FEMA WAS GOING TO PICK UP THE TAB ON THIS? UH, AT THE TIME WE DID THE BUDGET. WE WERE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE MAJORITY OF IT AND WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ENOUGH REIMBURSEMENT YET. UH THE MONEY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE 54 THE ADDITIONAL INTEREST WHICH IS GONNA BE. IT. IT WILL MORE THAN LIKELY COME FROM RESERVE CASH, WHICH, AS WE KNOW IS NOT MUCH AT THIS POINT. SO THAT THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT LEFT IN RESERVE AND SO NOW WE'RE GONNA PICK ON IT SOME MORE WITH THE WITH THE, UH INTEREST. BUT I WILL. I WILL ADD PAYING ANY INTEREST BEFORE IT WAS SO LOW. IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE WHEN I FIRST READ IT. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING THE 4% JUST ON THE 100 MILLION WELL, OUR 50 IS AT A LOW. UM WELL, ACTUALLY, OUR 50 IS AT 3.99. WE WERE JUST REFINANCED IT NOT TOO LONG AGO. UH AND THEN THIS ONE'S AT FOUR. BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS SPREAD OUT THROUGH ALL OF OUR FUNDS. SO IT'S NOT ONLY GENERAL FUND THAT IS PAYING THE INTEREST BUT IT'S 4% ON 100 MILLION NOT ON 50. BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING 3.9, WHICH IS DUMB MATH HERE, CORRECT ON ALL OF IT. I THINK THE OTHER THING TO INTERJECT COMMISSIONER IS THAT THERE'S NO PREPAYMENT PENALTY. SO AS THOSE FEMA FUNDS COME AVAILABLE, WE CAN BUY THIS DOWN. AS THOSE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE. WE JUST WE HAD ANTICIPATED HAVING APPROXIMATELY 100 AND 6 MILLION BACK BY MARCH, AND THAT JUST SIMPLY HAS NOT HAPPENED. UH, SO AND SO. UM, CERTAINLY NOTEWORTHY FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE FM. I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT EVERY DAY. UM, STAFF IS YES. SO IF WE, UM. DID HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY THIS OUT OF THE RESERVES. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO OUR RESERVES? HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT NOW? I HAVE NOT. ADD TO THAT THE COMMISSIONER UM TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS THAT WILL NOT BE A RESERVE EXPENDITURE. THAT WILL CONSUME A PORTION OF ANY NEW REVENUE AS A RESULT OF GROWTH. IS ALL THIS STILL FROM FEDERAL LEVEL, OR IS THE STATE GOTTEN? BECAUSE I KNOW IT HAS THE TRICKLE DOWN. I BELIEVE MOST OF IT'S SOLD AT THE STATE LEVEL AT THIS POINT. ONE. GOTTA GET IT THE LAST STEP THANK YOU. UM. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK THERE'S THE STATE SITTING ON ABOUT A YOU SAID 106. 106 MILLION JUST WAITING TO BE DISPERSED. WELL, THE LAST TIME I WORK, YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. HERE AND SO ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. A MOTION IN A SECOND. ON THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CARROLL COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER, PEACE CHAIRMAN[County Manager’s Office]
HAM. YES, MA'AM. UH, NUMBER 29 THE CR A AGREEMENT. UH, YES, SIR. MR CHAIRMAN UNDER ITEM 29 STAFFS, RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE B . THE B STAFFS REVISED FRONT BEACH ROAD COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AGREEMENT FOR CONSIDERATION BY PANAMA CITY BEACH. UH, COUNTY STAFF PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED THE DRAFT AGREEMENT, UH, FROM THE CITY, WHICH WAS CIRCULATED TO EACH OF YOU. UH, WE MET AND BRIEFED. EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY RECEIVED FEEDBACK AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR TODAY IS TO, UH, TAKE THAT FEEDBACK. UM AS INDICATED IN THE AMENDED DRAFT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU AND SEND IT BACK TO THE CITY FOR CONSIDERATION. UM. UM, I'M SURE YOU GOT THE DOCUMENT HANDY THERE ON ITEM SEVEN. UNDER THE USE OF THE CR, A WE'VE ADDED LANGUAGE THAT. STATES THAT AFTER SEPTEMBER 30TH 2029 NO CR A CAN BE USED FOR IT LISTS FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WHY IS THE WHY ARE WE PUTTING THE TIMELINE ON THEM SO THAT THE INTENT THERE WAS THERE'S TWO GROUPS, THERE'S TWO GROUPS AND TWO TIMELINES OF PROJECTS. THE INITIATIVE FROM[00:25:04]
THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN TO SPEED THESE PROJECTS UP AND GET THEM DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. SO THERE'S A GROUP OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD WE WOULD ANTICIPATE OR LIKE TO SEE DONE BY 2029. AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND GROUP OF PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE BY 2039. THEY HAD GIVEN US A LIST BEFORE WHERE THOSE ALREADY IN THEIR LIST THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED AND READY FOR BID. UH, THEY'RE ON THEIR LIST. UH, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE DRAFT. UH, THAT YOU HAVE FROM THE CITY WAS, UM AND I'M PARAPHRASING HERE. IT'S NOT AN EXACT QUOTE, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING OF THE EFFECT OF THE CITY IN GOOD FAITH WOULD ATTEMPT TO GET THE PROJECTS DONE AS QUICKLY AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD.BUT THERE WAS NO DEFINED UH, TIMELINE. THEY'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON 4142. AND I UNDERSTAND THOSE TWO HAVE TO BE COMBINED. NOW UM BECAUSE OF SOME FUNDING CONSTRAINTS THAT THEY'RE HAVING, UH, JUST HAVE THEY IDENTIFIED. THEY CAN GET THOSE DONE BY THAT TIMELINE. OR IS THAT JUST OUR THAT'S OUR RESPONSE BACK? I THINK WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND AGAIN I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SPEAK. ON THEIR BEHALF. BUT MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT DRAFT WAS, UH THEY IN GOOD FAITH. WANNA GET THE PROJECTS DONE? THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS THAT THEY'RE UNDER, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US ARE AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS. AVAILABILITY OF LABOR, UH, THEY WANT IN GOOD FAITH. TRY TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT THEY JUST THEY WANT THE AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT THEY WILL OPERATE IN THAT GOOD FAITH TO GET PROJECTS DONE.
DOES THAT MEAN THEY GOT TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THAT TIMELINE? WHAT? WHAT DO WE MEAN? NOT USED FOR THOSE PROJECTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO OR AND THIS IS FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM YOU ALL. SO THAT'S MORE OF A CONVERSATION FOR YOU TO HAVE WITH YOUR PEERS. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD SAY IF THE PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR AWARDED BY THAT POINT IN TIME, THEN IT'S THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE TO BE COMPLETE BY THAT DATE, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FEASIBLE. SO OK, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTERJECT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MECHANISM IN HERE FOR THIS TO CONTINUOUSLY BE REVISITED. I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THE BOARD HAS EXPRESSED. INDIVIDUALLY TO STAFF ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE THE CR A BE SUCCESSFUL AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS THOSE CHALLENGES ARE EXPERIENCED, I DON'T EXPECT THIS BOARD WOULD NOT IN GOOD FAITH. CONSIDER MODIFICATION OF THOSE TIMELINES AS LONG AS PROJECTS WERE MOVING FORWARD, AND, UH, THOSE THINGS WERE EXAM. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED THE SEGMENT 4.1 AND 4.2. THE CITY IS TRYING TO FUND THAT THROUGH SOME GRANT OBLIGATIONS. UH, THERE'S SOME ADMINISTRATIVE AND TECHNICAL UM, HEADWINDS THAT THEY'RE FACING. WE KNOW THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT, UH, THAT'S GOING TO DELAY THAT PROJECT BEING AWARDED AND PUT OUT TO BID AND SO THAT, FOR SOME REASON WERE TO PUSH THAT FORWARD DOWN RANGE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER. AND, UM YEAH. AND THOSE THOSE GUARD RAILS. IF YOU WANT TO CALL THOSE CAN BE MOVED AT ANY TIME BY EITHER PARTY THROUGH A FUTURE CONVERSATION AND FUTURE NEGOTIATION, SO ME PERSONALLY. I. I THINK IT SAYS NO CR REVENUE MAY BE USED FOR THOSE PROJECTS. BUT IF THERE'S BEEN AWARDED, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE REVENUES TO PAY THE CONTRACTOR. SO I, I WOULD JUST THINK, AND MAYBE WE ADD SOME VERBS THAT SAYS IS, YOU KNOW IF PROJECT IS NOT OUT TO BED OR SOMETHING, SO YEAH, THAT'S THE DESIRE. THAT'S MY DESIRE. SO IF THESE GUYS AND GALS AGREE, THEN YES, I GUESS. SAY IT COULD BE AWARDED. WOULD BE SO WE. I KNOW THEY WANT TO BE . THEY'D LOVE FOR IT ALL TO BE DONE TOMORROW. IT'S JUST NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. UM BUT I ALSO DON'T WANNA SAY YOU'RE NOT DONE. YOU CAN'T USE YOUR OWN PHONES BECAUSE THEY'RE THEIR MODEL. MODEL HAS CHANGED AND EVOLVED. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO AT LEAST THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS COMPLETED OR OUT TO BID OR OR SOMETHING NOT TO BE COMPLETED. I HAVE AT THIS VERY MOMENT. OK? ANYBODY ELSE? I AGREE WITH THAT II? I YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE THAT STIPULATION. I THINK THAT WOULD PART OF THIS YEAH. IF IT STARTED. PROJECTS. STARTED IN THE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. YOU WANT TO CUT YOUR PHONES OFF? THEY GOTTA HAVE THEIR FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO THE PROJECT. I THINK THAT THEY'VE DESIGNED IT AND BECAUSE THERE A RE CONSTRUCTION DELAYS AND I MEAN IF, FOR SOME REASON, IT'S NOT FINISHED DUE TO WEATHER OR WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T I THINK WE OUGHT TO CUT IT OFF.
SO THANK YOU. FOR ME, THE, UH. POINTS OF THIS OR THAT WE DEFINE . THEIR PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, AND THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS ADDED TO IT. I KNOW GOING INTO THIS. THAT . POSITION THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE IN UM FUNDING WISE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT IN A IN A IN A COST ESCALATES UP EACH YEAR UNTIL IT HITS 30 MILLION. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WITH 30 MILLION EACH YEAR. TO THE END OF IT. GONNA PUT THE COUNTY IN A, UH TYPE POSITION. LAST YEAR.
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WHAT WE PAID LAST YEAR. YOU SEE WHAT? HOW? HOW THE EFFECT THAT IT HAD ON US. AND SO MOVING FORWARD AS THIS ESCALATES, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE. TO INCREASE THAT EFFECT. AND SO, UH, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S PART OF, UH . WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE OVERALL PICTURE THEY NEED TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. ANYBODY ELSE? OK UM, I THINK, UM. ALL OF US WOULD AGREE THAT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO ARTICULATE THIS. THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SITTING HERE THAT THIS WAS CREATED 20 YEARS AGO. THERE ABOUT PLUS MINUS AND THERE'S BEEN GOING, UM , YOU KNOW, FROM MY RESEARCH AND I GO THROUGH WHEN MIKE THOMAS GOT INTO THE MAYOR'S CHAIR, HE BEGAN WORKING ON AND KIND OF LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING NOW, PD AND E AND EVERYTHING ON THAT END AND GETTING THAT DONE. AND THEN THE CURRENT MAYOR, AND THE CURRENT BOARD HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. OF MOVING THIS ALONG, AND OF ACTUALLY MAKING THINGS HAPPEN. I THINK FROM THE COMMISSION STANDPOINT, COMMISSIONER DOZIER MENTIONED IT, UM IS, YOU KNOW WHERE THESE COSTS ARE GOING, AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE CONCERN BEING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN INTO THE FUTURE AND TRYING TO FORECAST THESE THINGS. AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF MY CONCERNS INSIDE OF THIS IS, UM MY DISTRICT IS A LITTLE INTERESTING IN THAT I GO ALL THE WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, BEAR CREEK FOUNTAIN YOUNGSTOWN OVER THROUGH THE SANDHILLS, SOUTHPORT AND YOU KNOW THEY THEY DON'T CARE FOR THE CR A. THEY SAY THE BEACH GETS EVERYTHING, BUT THEN I REPRESENT PART OF THIS DISTRICT THAT IS INSIDE OF THIS ALL THE WAY TO CARILLON BEACH. AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THEM GETTING THESE PROJECTS DONE. CLAIRE HAS SAID IT I. I HAVE SAID IT IN PRIVATE MEETINGS. AND IF I'VE NOT SAID IT THE RIGHT WAY OUT LOUD. I'M SAYING IT NOW I DO WANNA SEE THIS COMPLETED. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD OUR COMMUNITY. THE PROPER THINGS, BUT I THINK THERE IS A PROPER WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S NOT BURDENSOME ON EITHER THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH RESIDENTS OR THE REST OF THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT IN A WAY, AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS AS I'VE MET WITH STAFF AND DONE ONE ON ONES IS TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS. OF BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN AS THE VALUES INCREASE BEING ABLE TO SPREAD THESE COSTS AND BE ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS WHERE WE'RE NOT LIKE WE WERE CAUGHT IN THIS LAST YEAR, UNFORTUNATELY, HAVING TO RAISE A VALOR UM AND SO, YOU KNOW. THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE I DON'T THINK REALIZE THAT ARE AT VALOREM. OUR COLLECTIONS DON'T MAKE UP THAT MUCH OF OUR BUDGET. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR FROM PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT IN AVALOR MAKES UP A GREAT MAJORITY OF WHERE OUR ED VALOR TAXES GOES, AND SO WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS AND THE COUNTY AND TO THAT END THIS IS WHERE MY CONCERN HAS BEEN IS NOT SO MUCH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION OUT THERE THAT IS GETTING THINGS DONE. BUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THEY ARE NO LONGER THERE? BECAUSE THEY'RE TERM LIMITED. AND SO WHERE ARE WE GONNA GO AFTER THAT FACT AND TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING, AND I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE WORD CONTROL CONTROL IS A VERY, UH IT'S AN ILLUSION OF THINGS TO ME, BUT IT IS A WAY OF BEING ABLE FROM MY STANDPOINT TO WRITE THIS THAT WE AS THE COUNTY ARE NOT ALWAYS HAVING TO BE REACTIVE EVERY YEAR WHEN THE ADVIL OR AND THE TAX ROLLS COMES OUT OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA LOSE, AND WE'VE GOT INCREASING SERVICES.OUR COMMUNITY ACROSS THE BOARD IS GROWING BY 2.5% THAT GROWTH IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, IT'S MAIN I'M A GREAT MAJORITY OF IT, I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY IN MY DISTRICT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. BUT YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT BALANCE WITH THE CITY I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY AS BEST WE CAN CREATE A WIN WIN SITUATION IN THIS BUT I THINK ALL OF US WOULD AGREE THAT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN DOING THE JOB AND TRYING TO GET THIS DONE AND IT'S MORE SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE FUTURE AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH. EVERYTHING YOU WANT. YEAH, I A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OFF TOP OF MY LIST. DOUG WAS THAT THE TEAM AT THE BEACH? UM I CERTAINLY FEEL LIKE CAN GET THIS JOB DONE. SITUATION. LIKE WE'RE WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUST IN THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE ON THAT
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ON THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW. NO DOUBT THEY'RE ALL WORKING HARD. THEY ALL WANNA SEE THIS WORK DONE. I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE WANTS TO SEE THE BEACH SHINE AND ALL OF EVERYTHING BE DONE THAT THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR PRESENT LIST. UM, THE PROBLEM IS I'VE WATCHED DIFFERENT BOARDS, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE EVEN CONDOMINIUM BOARDS. THINGS ARE RUNNING ALONG SMOOTH. YOU'RE PUTTING RESERVES BACK. EVERYTHING'S GOOD. THE BOARD CHANGES AND IT ALL BLOWS UP AND IT GOES IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GET A BETTER AGREEMENT IN PLACE, AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE SIX YEARS THAT WE PUT ON THE AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED.I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE LIFE OF THIS CR A CONTRACT. AND WE NEED TO. I THINK THE PART IN THERE ABOUT HAVING, UM THE HEAD OF THE. COMMISSION AND THE MAYOR HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO GO TOGETHER AND WORK OUT PROBLEMS AS THEY COME UP. IS A TREMENDOUS BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD WAIT. UM SIX YEARS FOR THIS WHOLE THING TO BLOW UP AGAIN. THE NEXT GROUP OF COMMISSIONERS IS UP. THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME HEARTBURN AND ALL OF THIS AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT A BETTER CONTRACT THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW PUT IN PLACE. FOR THE DURATION OF THE CR A AND WHEN PROBLEMS ARISE IF THEY DO NEED A ANOTHER ROAD, OR IF THEY DO NEED SOMETHING ELSE, THEN WE ALL TALK ABOUT IT AS A GROUP AND IRON IT OUT. UM I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET IN ANOTHER BAD CONTRACT AND WE'RE WE'RE IN ONE NOW, AND IT'S COSTING ALL OF THE , UH, THE BAY COUNTY CITIZENS A LOT OF MONEY. UM COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. DID YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE AGREEMENT? UM AT ALL ABOUT, UH, THE PEER AND ALL OF THAT. I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE THAT IN WRITING AND IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST DISCUSS OUT LOUD. UM OR OR I CAN JUST RUN THROUGH IT EITHER WAY. PLEASURE OF THE BOARD COMMISSIONER. THE AGREEMENTS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.
BOTH AGREEMENTS ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TO DISCUSS AND WHAT WE'RE THAT'S. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IS FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON WHAT TO FORMALLY SEND BACK TO THE BEACH. UM, FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
WELL THEY PUT THEY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THE AGREEMENT, AND I AND I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEY ARE THEY ARE, UM, LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEACH. THERE'S NO QUESTION AND I THINK IT'S THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEACH AS DOUG IS BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH AT THE BEACH AS EVERYONE IS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR EVERYBODY IN BAY COUNTY. AND, UM AGREEMENT IS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, UM. 30 MILLION BILL.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 30 MILLION, BUT IF WE LEFT THE AGREEMENT LIKE IT IS NOW WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING A T A LOT MORE THAN THAT. THROUGHOUT THE YEARS TO THE POINT, I THINK IS MIRANDA BROUGHT TO US THAT A FEW MEETINGS AGO. WE'RE NOT. IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE. SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, SQUEEZE SOME MONEY OUT OF THE BEACH OR NOT DO ANY PROJECTS IN THE BEACH THAT WE ALL FEEL LIKE, ARE NECESSARILY YOU KNOW, WE CAN CAN'T DO BUT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE ALL GOING TO SURVIVE, GETTING IT DONE WITHOUT LAYING ALL OF THE BURDEN ON, UM YOU KNOW THE ALL THE CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY SO. THE RIGHT NOW GETS ROUGHLY 10 TIMES MORE THAN THAN THE OTHER 48 COUNTIES THAT HAVE CRAS. SO WHETHER OR NOT THE THING WAS MEANT TO BE LOPSIDED.
IT JUST IT TURNED OUT THAT WAY. WE'VE HAD AN EXPLOSION OF GROWTH AS WE ALL KNOW, AND IT AND IT'S CAUSED IT. BUT 89 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR. THAT THAT IS THAT IS COLLECTED. IS RETURNED TO THE BEACH SO THAT THE 8089 CENTS IS LEFT TO DO THE JAIL. UM EMERGENCY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL BOBBY MIGHT BE ABLE TO. I MADE 11 CENTS. I SORRY. 11 CENTS IS THERE YOU KNOW WHEN WE BRING PRISONERS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRESTED FROM THE BEACH? THEY GO TO THE COUNTY JAIL. AND WHAT? WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS ON THE LIVING SENSE THAT SO TO BUILD ON A LITTLE BIT OF COMMISSIONER MOORE'S COMMENTS EARLIER, UM MAJORITY OF THE VALOR REVENUE COLLECTED THAT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND IS EXPENDED ON PUBLIC SAFETY. THOSE THREE CALL CENTERS ARE GENERALLY THE SHERIFF'S OPERATION. THE JAIL OPERATION AND EMS. UH, IT COST US APPROXIMATELY 50 CENTS. OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR. TO OPERATE THOSE SERVICES. WE'RE ONLY RECEIVING, UH, THAT PARTICULAR AREA 11. SO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY HAS TO MAKE UP THAT DELTA. UM AND AS YOU KNOW, UM,
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SOME OF WHAT, UH, CALLS THE BUDGET TO GO UP OR SOME OF THE SHERIFF'S, UH, THE THINGS THAT HAD TO BE DONE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WAGES AND INSURANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. I JUST WANNA SAY WHEN, WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP. IT WAS. IT WAS REAL SIMPLE. IT WAS. CAN WE SPEED THE PROJECT UP AND SAVE A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS? IT? IT WAS JUST CAN WE DO THAT? AND FROM EVERYTHING THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT. WE COULD DO THAT. SO NOW IT'S KIND OF MORPHED INTO A LOT OF OTHER STUFF. UH, ONE BEING, UM THE PEER, THE COUNTY PEER. SO. THE COUNTY PIER. I THINK OUR DEBT IS UP. UH, NEXT YEAR ON THE COUNTY FAIR, I BELIEVE MIRANDA. WELL, HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH MORE MUCH LONGER. DO WE HAVE. IT WAS 7 TO 10 YEARS FROM NOW. SO UM, WE HAVE SOME DEBT ON THE PIER AND FOR WHATEVER REASON. THE CITY WANTS THE COUNTY PIER. NOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM WE? A WE ALREADY GET A GOOD BIT OF MONEY OFF THE, UH, FISHING OFF THE PIER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING TODAY AND, UH, DOING, UM , CHAIRS AND, UM, SOME FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND THAT SORT OF THING TO, UM GET THE PIER UP TO SNUFF AS FAR AS MAKING SOME MONEY, BUT THE MONEY WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE PARKS. SO THE PARKS RIGHT NOW, IN SOME CASES, UM. WE DON'T HAVE. YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO DO THE MOWING AND WE CERTAINLY WASN'T ABLE TO GO UP ON 11 DIME ON ANYTHING ON THE PARKS AS FAR AS UH, MAINTENANCE. THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE, OF COURSE, CONSCIOUS OF KEEPING THE MILL DOWN. SO THAT MONEY WAS TO GO TO THE PARKS, WHICH ARE ENJOYED BY ALL BAY COUNTY RESIDENTS, ALL BEACH RESIDENTS, EVERYONE. SO FOR US TO TRADE THE PEER FOR, UH UH I'M JUST I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHY WE'RE GIVING SOMETHING FOR, UM. ASKING SOMEONE JUST TO SAVE MONEY. I I'M I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED ABOUT HOW IT MORPHED INTO THIS. IT WAS A SIMPLE THING. CAN YOU SPEED THE PROJECT UP? IF WE CAN. IT'S GONNA SAVE A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. CAN WE DO THAT? I MEAN, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SIT DOWN IN A ROOM AND SAY, YEAH, YOU KNOW WE CAN GET WE CAN PUT A SCHEDULE ON THE PROP ON THE ON THE PROJECTS. AND IF UM JOE BLOW ROAD BUILDER DOESN'T MAKE THE SCHEDULE, THEN HE'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY. SO THAT'S GENERALLY HOW IT'S DONE NOW, I. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT DONE THAT WAY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T UM CONTINUED TO DO IT THAT WAY AND I, I THINK THE OTHER THING AS FAR AS AND I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ROBERT ABOUT . DON'T PUT THEM IN A PICKLE, WHERE THEY WHERE THEY CAN'T GET THE JOB DONE BECAUSE OF WEATHER AND ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS, BUT NORMALLY AS YOU KNOW, WEATHER AND ALL OF THESE OTHER FACTORS ARE BUILT IN TO A SCHEDULE WHEN SOMEONE DOES A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE OR ROAD SCHEDULE ANY OTHER THING? THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE IS WHERE WE DIDN'T THE PROPERTY WASN'T PURCHASED WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SO THIS THING STARTED 20 YEARS AGO. AND. DURING THAT TIME, WE COULD HAVE BOUGHT PROPERTY AT NO TELLING HOW MUCH CHEAPER I MEAN, JUST AT A AT A FRACTION OF WHAT IT IS NOW, AND WE STILL DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PURCHASE SO WHAT? WHAT WOULD SPEEDING THAT ALL OF THAT UP HAVE TO DO WITH, UM WITH THIS PROCESS IN IN IN TURN. SLAVE. SAVE A LOT OF MONEY. UM.ADDITIONAL I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO USE THE PIER AS SOME KIND OF A TROPHY OR WHAT I THINK THE PURE IS THE COUNTY PEER. THERE'S A CITY PIER AND A COUNTY PERIOD. IT NEEDS TO BE NEEDS TO BE LEFT ALONE. UM. SO SOME OF THE LANGUAGE UM. IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, WHICH WE DIDN'T GET UNTIL UNTIL YESTERDAY. UM IS THAT THEY CAN. THEY WILL, OF COURSE, TAKE ANY, UM. ANY MONEY THAT COULD BE MADE OFF THE PIER WOULD GO TO THE CITY. NOW THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY FOOD AND BEVERAGE. ANY BEACH SERVICES, ANY PARKING FISHING ALL THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT. IT'S ALL IN THERE, BUT IT ALSO SAYS THAT THEY CAN BUILD BUILDINGS IF THEY DECIDE TO
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BUILD A NICE BIG RESTAURANT AND MAKE, UM MAKE MONEY OFF OF THAT. THAT AT THE END OF THIS, UM.PLEASE WHICH I GUESS WAS FOR ZERO MONEY. THE LEASE WAS FOR ZERO MONEY IS THAT WE HAD TO PAY THEM FOR THE BUILDING. SO I MEAN, I'M JUST. MAYBE I'M READING IT WRONG. MAYBE I'M I'M NOT. I'M NOT. BUT I'M I'M JUST I'M JUST PICKING UP SOME THINGS THAT I THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP. UM THE OTHER THING WAS, UM WHAT THEY THEY'RE SORT OF ADDING MORE ROADS AS WE GO ALONG. I THINK WE WERE ORIGINALLY TALKING ABOUT THESE SEGMENTS. ONE SEGMENT, WHICH WOULD THEY HADN'T EVEN PLANNED TO DO AT ALL BECAUSE THERE WAS REALLY NO WAY OF PURCHASING THE PROPERTY. UM, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR, UM THERE'S JUST ONE WAY TO BUY IT. I MEAN, IT WAS SO OUT OF, UH PRICE RANGE THAT THERE WAS NO WAY TO BUY IT. SO YOU WERE NEVER GONNA DO THAT SEGMENT THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED TO BEGIN WITH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS CHANGE AND A AT THE GROWTH RATE THAT WE'RE MAYBE WE DO NEED TO LEAVE. UM SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN ADD SOMETHING TO IT LATER ON. BUT THE MAINTENANCE LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE FOR ONE SECOND. THEY LEFT THE MAINTENANCE. UH, THEY PUT THE MAINTENANCE IN THERE. THAT WAS NOT EVEN IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. THE MAINTENANCE WAS IT. SO SOMEHOW, THROUGH THE YEARS THE MAINTENANCE GOT ADDED IN THERE. NOW I KNOW THAT THE MAINTENANCE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE DOCUMENT. BUT WHEN MAINTENANCE I THINK IS WHEN A TOILET'S BROKEN YOU CHANGE THE FLOAT VALVE. IT'S NOT YOU JUST COMPLETELY REBUILD THE HOUSE. SO THE MAINTENANCE CATEGORY HAS IS SUCH A BIG, UM IT'S JUST A CATCH ALL IT'S ANYTHING. UH, AS I READ IT, AND AGAIN, I MIGHT NOT HAVE READ IT RIGHT. AND YEAH, ANYONE CAN CAN CORRECT ME. PLEASE DO UM. IT WASN'T MAINTENANCE. IT WAS JUST CATCH ALL ANYTHING THAT WE SAW THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO BUILD NEW SIDEWALKS. WE WANT TO BUILD NEW BIKE PATHS. BIKE PATH AND SIDEWALKS AND ALL TO ME THAT THAT THAT REALLY WASN'T MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT THAT'S JUST AN ANOTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP. UM. AND MY QUESTION WAS, CAN WE? UM I MEAN, AFTER THIS CR A IS COMPLETED WITH THESE SEGMENTS THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED TO BEGIN WITH. CAN WE DO ANOTHER CR A DOWN THE ROAD, CAN WE? I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THIS. I. I WOULDN'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE THE END OF EVERYTHING. I MEAN, CAN WE NOT DO ADDITIONAL WORK AS THEY SEE THEY NEED ADDITIONAL WORK. YOU.
AND WE IT IS NOT WE DON'T DO THE CR. A THIS IS COMES FROM AN INDIVIDUAL CITY. AND SO IF I'M I'M SAYING THAT WRONG. I'M SORRY IF YOU WANNA IF THEY WANT IF THEY WANT TO, AT THE END OF THIS IF THEY WANT TO EXPLORE DOING SOMETHING ELSE. ANOTHER CR A ARE COMING COMING BACK WOULD BEE CERTAINLY BE UP TO THE CITY. YEAH, BUT THEY COULD COME BACK. YES YES, THEY INSTEAD OF WE, BECAUSE WHEN I SAY WE I'M I'M ALSO SAYING THE BEACH BECAUSE I'M I'M BEACH TOO. SO AND REALLY , THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE SHOULD ALL BE TOGETHER ON THE THING THAT SHOULD BE A WE INSTEAD OF THE BEACH AND THE AND THE COUNTY, BUT I REALIZE THAT AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE CS ALL OVER THE COUNTY IN PARKER CALLAWAY, UH, ALL THE ALL THE PLACES HAVE CRAS SO YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT INDIVIDUAL C'S DESIRE TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD WHAT THEY WANT TO BUT IT BUT WE, UM THEY COULD COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER CR A. IF THIS ONE IS NOT ENOUGH IS WHAT I'M SAYING IN THE FUTURE. I GUESS THAT STILL AND THEN I TALKED ABOUT THE SCHEDULES QUICK COMMISSIONER. I THINK THE PROCESS THERE UNDER STATUTE WOULD BE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE. THE EXISTING CR A. IF IT'S NOT COMPLETE, WHICH HAS HAPPENED A NUMBER OF TIMES. IF THIS CR A WERE COMPLETED PROJECTS WERE DONE, UH IF THE BEACH CHOSE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT CREATING A NEW CR FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE, THEY CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT UNDER THE STATUTE AS WELL. I JUST I DON'T WANNA SAY SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAMSTRING THEM. SO IN 2049, WHICH IS A LONG TIME FROM NOW, WHEN THIS IS UP, THEY COULD I SOON COME BACK AND REVISIT, UH, REVISIT. SO JUST IN CLOSING, UM.
THIS PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO COST 100 AND $8 MILLION AND IT WOULD HAVE ENDED IN 2032. AND WE'RE 22 YEARS. UH IT'S O. IT'S OVER THE PAST 22 YEARS ALONE. UH WE'VE ALREADY PROVIDED 100 AND 96 MILLION FOR THE USE OF THE CR A. SO WE'VE DOUBLED WHAT WE SAID IT WAS GONNA COST TO START WITH.
AND TO DATE TO RIGHT NOW. AND WE HAVE WE HAVE SOMEONE A WHOLE LOT SMARTER THAN ME. HAS DONE THE
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MATH, AND I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE DONE THE MATH. UM THAT WILL SHOW THAT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.SO FOR US TO THINK THAT WE CAN JUST KEEP ON AT THE AT THE WAY WE'RE GOING HERE. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME CHANGE. AND. ANYBODY ELSE? THE YES. YES SO SHE BROUGHT UP THE PIER? UH I I'VE BEEN A NO ON THE P THE WHOLE TIME. EVEN WHEN THAT WAS FIRST DISCUSSED, I JUST THAT'S OUR ASSET. I MEAN, THAT'S THE COUNTY'S ASSET. THE BEACH RESIDENTS GET TO ENJOY IT.
COUNTY RESIDENTS GET TO ENJOY IT. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. THERE'S AN ITEM COMING UP LATER THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS ABOUT LIFEGUARDS. IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE REVENUES FROM THE PEER IN THE FUTURE PARKING ASSESSMENT. I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE. SO, UM TO ME THAT THAT'S THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
BUT I CAN ECHO THAT AS WELL. UM, THAT THAT CAN BE OUT OF THE I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN SCRATCHED OUT OF THE AGREEMENT ANYWAY, SO YEAH. YEAH IT HAS. THAT'S AN EASY ONE JUST TO CLARIFY ONE THING WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS TIME LIMIT ON THE JOB BEING AWARDED. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE OF OUR AWARDED FOR CONSTRUCTION ARE AWARDED FOR DESIGN. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU AWARD SOMETHING FOR DESIGN, IT COULD BE, UH, IT COULD BE A YEAR AND A HALF. BEFORE THE THING EVER STARTS. I. I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK DESIGN SHOULD BE COMPLETE. UM YEAH DESIGN AND OUT FOR AWARD FOR CONSTRUCTION. YEAH SO AND YEAH, SO THEY PICKED A CONTRACTOR. THEY'VE DONE ALL THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. THEY'VE DONE THEIR STUDIES WHATEVER THEY GOT TO DO, BECAUSE THAT'S FIVE YEARS TO IDENTIFY THOSE ROADS, GET THEM DESIGNED AND GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE READY TO HIT THE STREETS. YEAH, SO OK, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO OF YOUR OF YOUR PROPERTY THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AWARD A CONTRACT UNLESS THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, PUT IT DOWN ON THE STREET UNLESS THEY'VE GOT THAT ACQUISITION SO THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN, UH, PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AHEAD OF TIME. AMONG THE PROPERTY THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE DRIVER IN THE PRICE.
STARTING TO INFLATE SO MUCH I. I MEAN, I KNOW CONCRETE ASPHALT. ALL THAT PIPING UTILITIES. ALL THAT. OF COURSE, JUMPED IN THERE, BUT BUYING THAT PROPERTY. SOMEBODY'S MOM AND POP HOTEL THAT MAYBE ONE, BUT IS A IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE ASSETS ARE FOR. I MEAN SEGMENT 4.1 AND TWO WHICH 4.1, I THINK WOULD IS ALREADY 100% DESIGNED, READY TO GO TO STREET, BUT THEY'RE HAVING A TIE THE TWO TOGETHER BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER FUNDING, MY UNDERSTANDING, SO IT'S PROBABLY LATER ON THIS YEAR FIRST OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE IT EVEN GETS AWARDED, UH OR OUT ON THE STREET. SO THIS YEAR, THOSE TWO WON'T BE IN CONSTRUCTION. BUT YET THEY'RE STILL 20 PLUS MILLION THAT WILL BE COLLECTED. IN ANTICIPATION FOR THOSE, SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION. I. I TELL YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU. WHEN YOU GO INTO A PROJECT A BIG LAND PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE A MASTER ASSOCIATION. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WHAT I KNOW. MASTER ASSOCIATION. YOU HAVE SUB ASSOCIATIONS. IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE BEGINNING, THERE'S A GOOD PLAN, AND THERE'S A SCHEDULE FROM THE BEGINNING AND IS, UH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE BEHIND EVERYTHING WE'RE SCHEDULING AFTER IT'S ALREADY DONE OR IT'S IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE'VE WE'VE GOT THE ROAD SEGMENTS THAT THAT NEED TO BE DONE. WHY CAN'T WE GO AHEAD AND SOMEONE GET US A SCHEDULE THAT SAYS IT'S GONNA TAKE THIS LONG TO GET IT DONE. WHEN I WENT TO THE MEETINGS. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. IT'S THEY TAKE IT AND ALMOST BACK INTO THE SCHEDULE. SO IT'S DONE ON BIG PROJECTS ALL THE TIME. IT'S DONE ON HUGE DEVELOPMENTS. IT'S DONE ON BIG PROJECTS. WHY CAN'T WE GET A TIMELINE THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH. AND THEN THE TIMELINE. OK YOU'VE GOT TWO YEARS TO GET THIS ROAD DONE AND THEN LIKE SOMEONE, WHOEVER IT IS, THEY WE, UH, COMES BACK AND SAYS, WELL, WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE. IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER YEAR. THEN WE CAN ALL UP HERE BE COMMON SENSE TO SAY WELL, WE KNOW THEY COULDN'T GET IT DONE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T EVEN GET PIPE OR CONCRETE WENT THROUGH THE ROOF OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT WE'RE SITTING HERE WAITING ON THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED AND SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN BOUGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT'S RUNNING THE NUMBER UP AND TURNING IT. INTO A PROJECT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY FOR, AND IT'S ALL BEING LAID ON THE BACKS OF THE COUNTY CITIZENS AND I'M I'M JUST NOT GOOD WITH IT, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE SMART ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY. MR MARK IF THE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED. LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS BEING AGGRESSIVE. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT NO DOUBT, UM IF THEY GET ALL THESE PROJECTS COMPLETED. PRIOR TO 2039. ALL RIGHT, BEST WISHFUL THINKING. THAT'S BUT I
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THINK IT'S DOABLE. AND IF IT'S ALL DONE, THERE'S STILL 10 YEARS LEFT ON THE CR, A DO WE BOTH JUST AGREE TO SAY ALL WE'RE DONE? WE'RE CLOSING OFF, AND NOW THE MONEY IS NOW STARTED GENERATING. WE KEEP IT. THE AGREEMENT WOULD CALL SO THE CITY WOULD STILL, UM, HAVE DEBT SERVICE AT THAT POINT. SO THE TIFF WOULD WOULD STILL NEED TO BE COLLECTED. AND THEN WHAT THIS AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATES IS THAT THAT DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE CONTINUED TO BE PAID UNTIL IT EXPIRES, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THAT 2049 TIME FRAME. UH, BUT ALSO THE MAINTENANCE AND THE OPERATING COST. SO THE CR A WOULD STILL BE MADE WHOLE UNTIL IT SUNSETS IN 2049. SO RIGHT? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, UM ANYTHING THAT WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE REQUIREMENTS WOULD WOULD BE REMITTED BACK TO THE COUNTY. THAT'S WHAT I'M CONFIRMING. OR THERE COULD BE SOMETHING DONE TO IF THEY OWE $10 MILLION AND INSTEAD OF RETURNING 10 TO US TO PAY ON THAT DEBT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT 10 COULD BE USED TO PAY THAT DEBT OFF, RIGHT? CORRECT THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE NEGOTIATED IF THE IF THE CITY HAD A BOND WITH NO PENALTY, EARLY TERMINATION, AND THERE WAS A BALANCE LEFT, AND THERE WAS SUBSEQUENT TIFF REVENUE AVAILABLE, UM OR IF THE COUNTY HAD MONEY IN RESERVE AND WANTED TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE BEACH TO DO THAT TO TERMINATE THAT DEBT INSTRUMENT EARLY. ABSOLUTELY.THE COMMISSIONED AT THAT TIME COULD UM YOU CONSIDER THAT? AND TYPICAL MAINTENANCE IS PAID.
EACH CITY MAINTAINS THEIR ROADWAYS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY GENERATED FROM THEIR PROPERTY TAX THEY COLLECT AND THE BEACH IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN AVALOR. I THINK IT'S JUST FAIR TO SAY THAT IT'S COVERED FROM THEIR THEIR THEIR BUDGET. HOW HOW WHATEVER THE REVENUE SOURCES IS TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF BUILD A LITTLE BIT ON COMMISSIONER PEACE'S COMMENTS ABOUT MAINTENANCE. UH, MY RECOLLECTION IS MAINTENANCE WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED UNTIL WE SIGNED THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE UNDER NOW WHERE WE HAVE A DEDICATED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DEBT OR WHAT MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE. UH, GONNA BE FUNDED AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED. UH, THIS AGREEMENT CONTINUES THAT IT EXPANDS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE BEACH TO CONSIDER IS THAT THAT MODIFIER ON SOME TYPE OF ANNUAL SCALE. CPR. TP I, UH SOME RATES SET BY THE FED FOR INFLATION, SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW THE MAINTENANCE RATE TO KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION AND WOULD ALLOW THEM TO USE TIFF FUNDS TO CONTINUE TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THOSE ROADS IN THE CR, A ALSO NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED. WHAT IS MAINTENANCE? THIS BUILDING. SO I THINK TO THE I THINK TO THE BEACHES, UH, DRAFT WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT GETTING TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT THAT AND PREPARING A BUDGET. YOU KNOW WHAT I HAD ENVISIONED IS THAT'S WHERE THAT CONVERSATION WOULD WOULD TAKE PLACE IS THAT THE TWO PARTIES WOULD MEET. WE WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WE WOULD BE. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEFINE THAT FOR THAT YEAR WHAT WHAT MAINTENANCE WOULD BE CONTEMPLATED IN THAT BUDGETARY CYCLE. YEAH. I THINK MAINTENANCE IS GONNA BE RESURFACING IN THE ROADS, REPLACING SOME SIDEWALKS. IF THEY BREAK I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. AND I THINK THAT CAN ALL BE IDENTIFIED BECAUSE YOU TYPICALLY YOU KNOW HOW LONG YOUR ROADS ARE GOING TO LAST. I MEAN, WE BUDGET THAT ALL THE TIME. SO THE CHANGE IS CONTEMPLATED IN THE DRAFT THAT WE WERE REQUESTING TO SEND BACK. UH, I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT DRAFT TALKS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUDGET TO BE SUBMITTED. WE'LL REVIEW IT. WE'LL AGREE TO IT. AND THEN IF WE CAN AGREE TO IT THAT THE MINIMUM WOULD BE THE PRIOR YEAR'S AMOUNT, PLUS UH, 110% OF THE PRIOR YEAR AND OUR WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
AND UH, WE CAN'T WHEN OUR CONVERSATIONS WE CONTEMPLATED THE UM, I THINK THE LAST MAINTENANCE NUMBER WE TALKED ABOUT IN TOTALITY WAS ABOUT 1.7 MILLION ANNUALLY THAT'S LOOKING TO GROW TO ABOUT 3 MILLION ANNUALLY. UM YOU KNOW, SO IT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW THAT GROWS TO THAT 3 MILLION AND THEN HOW CAN WE DEFINE FOR YOU WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON. SO IT'S MORE ABOUT THE CHANGES IN THE DRAFT A RE MORE ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS OF THE BALANCE OF THE MAINTENANCE FUND GROWING UM. AGAIN THE CONCEPT OF GETTING TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR BUDGETARY PURPOSES, IT MAKES MAKES PERFECT SENSE. BY THE TIME THEY FINISH THE PROJECTS WERE RICHARD JACKSON IS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT'S GONNA START.
PROBABLY BE ABOUT TIME TO START RESURFACING THAT ROAD AND SO THE MAINTENANCE IS PROBABLY GONNA START. RIGHT WELL, THEY HAVE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE MAINTENANCE. I CAN'T REMEMBER CALENDAR WISE EXACTLY WHEN IT WAS BUT THE BEACH PUT AC R A ASSESSMENT. ON THE BOOKS SEVERAL YEARS BACK BECAUSE THAT THAT MAINTENANCE IS BEGINNING TO OCCUR. AND SO THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE TIFF.
REVENUE IS A MECHANISM TO HELP THE BEACH MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT GOES FORWARD AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, OTHER WHAT? WHATEVER THAT IS THAT ASSESSMENT THAT NON EDIBLE ARM ASSESSMENT. UM, WHATEVER THE RULES OF THAT A RE. THE BEACH IS ALLOWED TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THOSE PURPOSES. AND WHAT KIND OF MOTION WOULD YOU NEED FOR CHANGE IN THIS LANGUAGE THAT ROBERT HAS. NOTES THAT I MADE WERE JUST TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE IN PARAGRAPH SEVEN
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TO REFLECT THAT, UH, THE TIMELINE UM WOULD BE. DRIVEN BY WHETHER THE PROJECT IS ESSENTIALLY READY, READY TO BE PUT OUT TO BID THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD AMEND UM THAT PARAGRAPH TO INCLUDE THAT THAT LANGUAGE THAT SET THAT IN THERE. I THINK WE WOULD, AS I'M LOOKING A T. THIS IT TALKS ABOUT, UM UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY PERIOD, THE AGGREGATE PN ON THE CR. A MODEL IS BELOW THE AGGREGATE PROJECTED PORTION FOR THAT SAME PERIOD. BY MORE THAN 3% AND DATES IN THIS PARAGRAPH SHOULD BE ADJUSTED TO ENSURE THAT THE PORTION UH, IS SUFFICIENT TO PROVIDE THE AGENCY WITH FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS BASED ON THE PROJECTED COST ESTIMATE, SO WE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A MODIFICATION OF THAT SECTION OF THAT PARAGRAPH THAT TALKS ABOUT PUT SOME VERBIAGE IN THERE ABOUT PROJECTS BEING READY TO BID. I THINK IT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD. THEN UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I WILL WORK ON THAT. AND WE WILL JUST YEAH, WE ARE ASKING DIRECTION TO STOP THAT DRAFT.MAKE THAT AMENDMENT AND SEND THAT BACK TO THE BEACH FOR CONSIDERATION. IT'S ONLY ON THE ROADS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE YOU KNOW. YES. YEAH, JUST, UH THAT IT'S OUT FOR BID FOR CONSTRUCTION, NOT FOR DESIGN OR OUT FOR BID FOR WHATEVER YOU KNOW, THAT IS A WORKING DOCUMENT. ONCE IT GOES TO THEM IT IT MAY BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO ABSOLUTELY. WE MAY SEE MORE CHANGES FROM THE CITY COME BACK. YEAH. OK? IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN ADD A MASTER SCHEDULE IN THERE? CAN WE GET SOME DATES? NAILED DOWN? CAN WE GET SOME TIMELINES NAILED DOWN ABOUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA START PURCHASING. THE LAND THAT WE ALREADY KNOW WE NEED. WE KNOW THEY THEY PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT WE NEED. AND THE ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS A REASON THAT WE CAN'T SPEED THIS UP AND NOT JUST HAVE A LOOSEY GOOSEY DATE ON THERE IS THERE? IS THERE ANY REASON BECAUSE I I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH THEM. AND NO ONE HAS EVER GIVEN ME ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T SPEED THIS PROJECT UP. UH AND I KNOW WE DON'T NEED TO BLOW THE WHOLE BEACH UP. I NOTICE A PARAGRAPH THAT THEY PUT IN THERE ABOUT, UH, COLLEGE IN A PROBLEM WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOURISTS COMING DOWN. THEY'D HURRY UP AND GET IT DONE, AND WE WE'D BE THROUGH WITH IT. I MEAN, BUT TO START A PROJECT, AND THEN, UM, THE CITIZENS GO BY, AND THEY SEE NOTHING BEING DONE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AND, UM THAT'S WHAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON WHY THAT WHY IT GOES ON LIKE THAT, OR CAN WE CORRECT THAT SOMEHOW IN THIS DOCUMENT? SO, UM. KIND OF LOOK A T THIS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS YOUR COUNTY MANAGER AND HOW I WOULD WANT TO MANAGE COUNTY PROJECTS. PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT TO ME. THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES OUT THERE THAT CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS SCHEDULE.
SO I THINK THAT THE BEACH IS INTENT HERE IS TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO NARROW THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO THESE KIND OF TWO, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEAR PERIODS. UM BUT YOU KNOW, WE GET A TIMELINE. AND THEN THERE'S A HURRICANE. YOU KNOW THAT TIMELINE IS GOING TO CHANGE. SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW HOW FAR DO WE WANT TO PARSE DOWN? HOW NARROW DO WE WANT TO MAKE THE WINDOW? FOR THE BEACH TO HAVE TO COMMIT TO, UM WHEN OR WE ASK THE BEACH TO COMMIT TO WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S VARIABLES OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE BEYOND THEIR CONTROL. THEY WOULD BE BEYOND OUR CONTROL AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK AND REVISITING. THE TIMELINE. SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A TIGHTER TIMELINE THAN JUST THE 25 YEAR BUCKETS. IF I CAN USE THAT ANALOGY, THEN, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN GO BACK AND PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE TO MAYBE TIGHTEN THAT UP. UM BUT I THINK WHAT I HEAR FROM YOU, COMMISSIONER IS MORE OF LIKE A GANT CHART ON EACH PROJECT. AND I'M NOT I. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ENOUGH VARIABILITY WORKED OUT OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR THE BEACH TO REALISTICALLY DO THAT. I MEAN, WE TAKE THE MODEL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH WE'VE GOT 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. AND SO THE FRONT END OF THAT MODEL IS BASED ON 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT WE'RE STILL PROJECTING OUT. WITH A LOT OF VARIABLES ON THE BACK END OF THAT MODEL FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS, AND IT'S A MODEL. AND SO THESE GANT CHARTS WOULD BE THE SAME SITUATION. THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE A I GUESS AT THIS POINT, A GOOD FAITH GUESS ON THE BEACH AS PART OF ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE GONNA START AND STOP, BUT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE HER OVER THE HORIZON AND CONTEMPLATE EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE DELAY OR CHANGE, I. I DON'T KNOW THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT'S REALISTIC, SO IT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT LIKE YOU. IF WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE AWESOME WOULD NEVER SUGGEST SUCH A THING. BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST AND THAT WE'VE GONE 20 YEARS. WHAT HAVE WE GOT DONE? LET'S JUST LET'S JUST BACK UP A MINUTE AND JUST SAY IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, WHAT HAVE WE GOTTEN DONE? IS THAT WHAT WE WANNA LOOK FORWARD TO? FOR THE NEXT 20? WE WANT TO GET THAT AMOUNT OF WORK DONE, OR WE WANT TO QUADRUPLE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE'RE GONNA GET DONE. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO PUT SOME SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT WE'RE WE CAN ACCEPT. NOTHING FOR THE NEXT
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20 YEARS. WE'RE EVERY EVERYONE KNOWS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HURRICANE. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE RAIN DELAYS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WHATEVER CRAZY COVID DELAYS, WHATEVER YOU KNOW, IS COMING IN THE HORIZON, WHICH WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING ELSE CRAZY, RIGHT? BUT I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A REASONABLE TIME LINE ON THIS. THERE USED TO BE THERE USED TO BE, UM WHEN YOU GO AND BUILD THIS ROAD, YOU HAVE GOT X AMOUNT OF X AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO IT. YOU BUILD IN YOUR BRAIN DAYS YOU BUILD IN YOUR HURRICANE DAYS BECAUSE WE'RE IN FLORIDA. YOU BUILD IN WHATEVER. BUT THE FACT THAT WE JUST DON'T BUILD IN ANY ANY KIND OF A SCHEDULE WHATSOEVER. THAT IS THE REASON THAT WE ARE IN THE MESS. WE'RE IN NOW, AND WE HAVE SP SPENT AN ADDITIONAL 100. SOME ODD MILLION. UH DOLLARS. THE. JUST SAYING. HOPE THAT WE CAN TIGHTEN THAT UP. SOMEHOW. I KNOW YOU CAN. UM NOT TO PUT ANYBODY IN A BOX BECAUSE I REALIZED EVEN WHEN I WAS BUILDING HOUSES OR BUILDING BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW IT WOULD RAIN. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HAD A WORK EXTRA DAY OR SOMETHING TO GET IT DONE, BUT TO START THE JOB JUST TO GET THE JOB AND START IT AND LET IT SIT THERE. UM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE TO PUT ON IT, OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE MATERIAL OR WHATEVER. IT'S JUST IT SHOULDN'T GO LIKE THAT ANYMORE. YOU SHOULD. IF YOU BUILD A JOB, YOU SHOULD BE READY TO GET OUT THERE AND BUST IT AND GET IT DONE. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMEHOW. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR IF I COULD YES. SO WITH THIS CONTEMPLATES RIGHT NOW IS REDUCING A 25 YEAR TIMES. BAND WHICH THE BEACH CURRENTLY HAS TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE BECAUSE THEY BUY A STATUTE HAVE UNTIL 2049. BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO IS BIFURCATE THAT FROM 25 YEARS BASICALLY CUT 10 YEARS OFF OF THAT AND GET IT DONE IN 15, THAT'S ALL. UNLESS SO, THIS DOES THAT. THIS CURRENTLY THE G THE DRAFT THAT WE'RE SENDING BACK DOES THAT IT? IT HAS A BUCKET OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU HAVE COMPLETED BY 2029 AND THEN ANOTHER BUCKET.WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU HAVE COMPLETED BY 2039. WELL I WAS READING BOTH DOCUMENTS AND I I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. IT WAS A LITTLE HARD TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAINLY THERE'S JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT BEST BEST BEST EFFORT AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT THAT MAYOR AND THAT GROUP IS WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THESE. THERE IS NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER THAT THEY ARE GET THEY ARE GETTING IT DONE. WHEN WE'RE GONE, AND THEY'RE GONE. A RE WE GONNA HAVE THAT GREATER TEA? WE DON'T KNOW. SO POINT OF SOME, UH, FAIL SAFE. UH, LANGUAGE IN A POINT OF REFERENCE FOR YOU ON THAT COMMENT IN THE MAT IS BACK OF THE NAPKIN, SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. UM, BUT ANECDOTALLY BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE OF THE STATUTORY SUNSET OF THE CR. A THE CITY COMMISSION WILL CHANGE THREE TIMES AT A MINIMUM. THAT'S IF EVERYBODY THAT GOT ELECTED SERVED THEIR FULL TERM. SO TO YOUR POINT YOU HAVE THE CURRENT BOARD IN PLACE. NOW THAT HAS BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE, UM, THAT THAT IS GETTING THINGS DONE THAT WANTS TO GET AS MUCH DONE AS THEY PHYSICALLY. POSSIBLY CAN GET BUT TO YOUR POINT, FOLKS ON THAT BOARD OF TERM LIMITED FOLKS ON THIS BOARD POTENTIALLY COULD BE TERM LIMITED BASED ON CURRENT LEGISLATION. SO THE INDIVIDUALS MAKING THESE DECISIONS WILL CYCLE AND TO YOUR POINT TRYING TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE TODAY THAT KIND OF MEMORIALIZES HOW THIS IS GONNA GO FORWARD, UM THAT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN THAT WELL AND THEY'VE GOT MORE DONE THAN I MEAN. I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE THAT GROUP AT THE BEACH. VERY PROUD THEY'VE DONE THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, BUT I WORRY ABOUT WHO'S NEXT? IT'S LIKE THE CONDO BOARDS WHO IT'S WHO WE GONNA GET NEXT. AND THAT IS ONE SCARY, SCARY THING ON THE CONDO BOARDS AND COULD BE COULD BE HERE AND TO THAT END ON THE TERM. IT'S ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN DWELLING ON. AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BOB ABOUT THIS. BUT, UH, THERE'S ONE REVISION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHICH IS 14, AND WE'VE SENT IT BACK TO THEM WITH WHAT THEY INITIALLY PROPOSED WITH THE SIX YEARS UH, I WOULD. I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT BE EIGHT YEARS WITH A ONE YEAR NOTICE. THAT'S KIND OF SPLITTING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. IT RUNS FOR EIGHT YEARS FOR SURE. AND THEN THAT SEVEN YEARS THIS, WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THE CITY AT THAT POINT IN TIME WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US A NOTICE IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE, UM, THAT RUNS IT LONGER. IT KIND OF KEEPS THINGS IN THE MOTION THAT, UH, AGAIN, I. I THINK I HEARD SOMEBODY MENTION THE HEARTBURN THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH. THIS WOULD KIND OF BE, UM, YOU KNOW. IT WOULD. IT WOULD TIE THIS OFF AT ONE MORE TIME THAT IF THERE HAS TO BE ONE THAT THAT WOULD BE DONE, BUT, UM, I WOULD I WOULD REQUEST THAT. WE ALSO REVISE THAT TO EIGHT YEARS WITH, UM, A ONE YEAR NOTICE. UM SO IT'S SEVEN YEARS THERE'D BE NOTICE, BUT THAT WOULD BE EIGHT YEARS RUNNING DOWN THE ROAD, AS OPPOSED TO SIX. AND IF WE WERE ALL WORKING
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AS WE SHOULD BE, WE WOULD KNOW BEFORE THE EIGHT YEARS THAT THEY'VE GOT A PROBLEM COMING UP, THEY WOULD CALL BOB AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A REAL PROBLEM HERE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS IT SOONER THAN LATER. AND YOU CAN ALWAYS ADDRESS IT SOONER, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WE GOTTA KNOW ABOUT IT SO THAT WE CAN GET GOING UNTIL WE GET TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE UNSUSTAINABLE. THIS IS A CONVERSATION FOR BOTH JURISDICTIONS ANNUALLY. AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS. SO IT WAS , UH, THE CITY IS SEEING CHALLENGES ON THEIR SIDE OF THEY'RE PREPARING THEIR BUDGET. WE WOULD WANT TO BE ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT HOW TO HOW TO ADAPT. LIKEWISE IF WE'RE SEEING THOSE CHALLENGES DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO ADAPT. UH, THAT'S THE REASON THAT'S THE RATIONALE BETWEEN BEFORE FOR THE ONE YEAR TERMINATION LANGUAGE VERSUS THE PRIOR LANGUAGE, I THINK WAS 90 DAYS. UH, BECAUSE WE WOULD I THINK YOU KNOW IT'S A VERY BIG ISSUE. AND IT'S A LOT OF DOLLARS INVOLVED, AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE, I THINK BOTH PARTIES NEED TO HAVE THAT ENTIRE BUDGET CYCLE TO CONSIDER HOW THEY HOW THEY WOULD ADDRESS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE THAT THAT CHANGE AFFECTING THEM FINANCIALLY. IT. IT'S A HUGE CHANGE. I MEAN, WE JUST SAT HERE AND TALKED ABOUT, UH, 4% INTEREST RATE THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE. THAT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR BUDGET THAT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED. AND SO TO HAVE NOT ENOUGH DAYS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE IN STORE FOR AND WHAT WHAT COULD CAUSE THE CITIZENS EXTRA MONEY? WE SHOULD. WE SHOULD BE HAVE ENOUGH TIME BE ALLOWED ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.WHERE DID THE SIX YEARS COME FROM? UH, SO THAT WAS THE REQUEST OF THE CITY. WE MET BACK IN OCTOBER. WE HAD CONVERSATION. UM, UH, IT WAS ORIGINALLY FIVE. UH, WE HAD A CONVERSATION. UH, ABOUT THAT NUMBER. UM THE BEACH MODIFIED THAT FROM 5 TO 6, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE SIX TIED TO ANYTHING OR JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY CAME UP. I THINK THE YOU KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM. I THINK THE BEACH DID NOT JUST WANT IT TO BE OPEN ENDED AND RUN IN PERPETUITY TO THE END OF THE 40 THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW A HARD STOP THAT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TOGETHER OR IF EVERYTHING IS WORKING FINE. IT WOULD, UM YEAH, BUT BEYOND THAT, I, I CAN'T YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR UM FOR THE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF I SHOULD SAY TO MAYBE ANSWER, BUT, UM, UH, AGAIN THE SIX YEARS ITSELF WAS NOT GENERALLY A CONCERN TO ME. UM WHAT WAS MORE CONCERNING WAS THE 90 DAY TERMINATION LANGUAGE THAT THAT EITHER PARTY COULD COULD 30 OR I'M SORRY. THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF A BUDGET TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE OUT. UM EVERYTHING IS WORKING AS WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL THEN PERHAPS THAT NOTICE WOULD NOT COME. UH, BUT IF IT DID COME CERTAINLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A YEAR OF BUDGET PREPARATION TIME TO STRATEGIZE ABOUT HOW THE COUNTY WOULD GO BACK TO UM, HAVING TO REMIT THE FULL TIFF TO THE CR, A DIDN'T THEY COME BACK AT ANY TIME? LOOK, THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT PREVENT THAT PREVENTS EITHER PARTY FROM COMING AT ANY TIME.
YOU HAVE TO PUT A MARK IN THE SAND WHERE WE'RE SAYING EVANDER HOLYFIELD. WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE RING SIX YEARS FROM NOW, AT SO AGAIN, THAT WAS KIND OF MY RATIONALE FOR NOT PUTTING A WHOLE LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THE SIX YEARS VERSUS THE WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT 2049, AND IF THEY NEED TO COME BACK, COME BACK. I I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS IT WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST, IN MY OPINION BY THE BEACH, AND I JUST THINK WE'RE PICKING A FIGHT. BUT WE'RE PICKING A TIME TO HAVE ANOTHER FIGHT. I DON'T I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WHY IT HAS TO BE IN THERE AT ALL. IT'S NOT IN THERE NOW, RIGHT? WHY? WHY DON'T WE? I'M JUST SAYING, WE'VE ALREADY GOT A MUCKED UP AGREEMENT. WHY DO WE NEED TO DRAG IT THROUGH SOME MORE MUD AND GET IT E, EVEN IN WORSE SHAPE WHEN REALLY IT WAS LIKE YOU THINK Y'ALL CAN JUST HURRY UP AND GET THROUGH SO WING SAVE SOME MONEY. REALLY HOW IT STARTED, AND NOW IT'S GONE INTO SOME, YOU KNOW, CRAZY BILL. I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE IT LEFT A T 2020 49, BUT. BOB IN YOUR OPINION, THE SIX OR EIGHT YEARS IS DOUG'S TALKING ABOUT IS IT REALLY? TOMATO, TOMATO, UM. I MEAN, IN THE ESSENCE OF EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER IN GOOD FAITH, AND ALL THESE PROJECTS GETTING COMPLETED AND THAT THAT CLAUSE REALLY NEVER BEING EXECUTED. NO. UM AGAIN. MY FOCUS IS THE FINANCIAL RISK ON THE COUNTY IF THAT'S EVER, UM, ACTIVATED, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, HONESTLY, WHETHER IT'S SIX YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS OR 15 YEARS IF I ONLY HAVE 30 DAYS TO ALL OF A SUDDEN REACT. TO A $30 MILLION OR A $10 MILLION IMPACT. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN DO TO YOU A T THAT POINT OTHER THAN COME IN AND SAY YOU'RE RAISING THE MILL RATE. AND THAT'S IN THE LAST 30 DAYS OF THE BUDGET CONVERSATION, SO I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A YEAR. OF THE ABILITY TO SIDE HOW THIS COMMUNITY WOULD ADDRESS THAT FROM A TAX BURDEN PERSPECTIVE, IF LET'S SAY IN THIS SCENARIO, THE BEACH OPTED TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT. I THINK 90 DAYS IS JUST A SO THAT WAS MY FOCUS
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AGAIN. I. I DID NOT THINK THAT THE SIX YEARS WAS UNREASONABLE. UM THERE WAS AN THAT THEY THAT THEY MADE, UM EIGHT YEARS CAN WORK TOO. I MEAN, THE WHOLE GO IN THE WHOLE TERM CAN WORK. I MEAN, IT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE. UM IF I WERE GOING TO KIND OF PUT MY FLAG ON THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME THERE, IT'S THE 90 DAYS VERSUS VERSUS THE THAT WAS MY IMPRESSION, TOO. I DON'T I DON'T YOU KNOW, THE EIGHT YEARS IS FINE WITH ME. BUT THE AT LEAST A YEAR'S NOTICE IS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT. UM YOU KNOW, A 90 DAY KICK OUT CLAUSE IS NOT GONNA WORK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. UM, SO WE NEED TO HAVE A YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU. I TOTALLY AGREE. I HAVE TO HAVE TIME. YEAH. EIGHT YEARS. WE WON'T CHANGE IT TO THAT. WE'LL DO CAUSE IT DOES.IT'S YEAH. I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THE ONE YEAR AND THE YEAR NOTIFICATION I THINK IS THE DEFINITELY. YEAH. AND WHAT CREATED THIS WHOLE THING TO BEGIN WITH? ALL RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WRAP ALL THIS EMOTION SOMEHOW. WITH WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE TODAY AND CHANGE THEM FROM 6 TO 8 AND WITH THE TIME LINES, AND I HAD STATED EARLIER I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT. WE'LL FORWARD IT TO THE BEACH AND THEN WORK DOCUMENTING. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH THOSE CHANGES WE DISCUSSED. OK? ALL RIGHT. SECOND. GOT A MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES COMMISSIONER MOORE? YES MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN HOW? YES, MA'AM. BEFORE WE MOVE ON. I WANT TO GET THAT MOTION OUT OF THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS WHOLE THING IS, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE IN THE HOOK FOR $30 MILLION A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD. DON'T DO SOMETHING. IT'S GONNA BE A THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT.
THIS IS A STEP. TO HELP OUT THE OVERALL PICTURE. BUT AT SOME POINT YEAH, AT SOME POINT, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FORECAST OUR OWN BUDGET AND BE ABLE TO WORK OUR OWN PROCESS. COVER THE CITIZENS RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S DOWN THE ROAD. IT COULD BE SOME REALLY CRAZY NUMBER THAT COULD JUST BREAK US OFF. THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT ONE PASS US. WE'LL GO IN
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THE NEXT ONE. SERVICES. THE SURF RESCUE PROGRAM EDITION. YEAH. YES MR CHAIRMAN AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ST WE DISCUSSED EXPANDING THE SURF RESCUE PROGRAM. THE BOARD ASKED US TO PROVIDE A WHITE PAPER. WE DID SO IN YOUR LAST UPDATES. UH, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A REQUEST TO REVIEW THE PROVIDED INFORMATION AND APPROVE THE ADDITION OF SURF RESCUE PERSONNEL. ANY QUESTION STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. OK? RIGHT? I DON'T DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I LOOKED AT IT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TOOK IN THE INFORMATION. I KNOW THAT THE, UH ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL ARE CERTAINLY NEEDED. SO, UH, WHERE WE'RE GOING ABOUT. THIS IS, UH, I THINK THE, UH CHOSEN THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO DO IT, SO I'M I'M FINE WITH IT. ANYBODY ELSE? GIVE ME ONE SECOND. YEAH JUST I IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE BONDS THAT WERE RE FINANCE AND THE ADDED EXPENSE. THIS IS YET ANOTHER ADDED EXPENSE. BUT AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PEER I IF WE DON'T CREATE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PIER AND DO SOMETHING TO GENERATE. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THIS SO I THINK THE TWO KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO SHOW OUR BEST EFFORT. YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT THE VISITORS THAT COME TO OUR BEACHES AND SO YEAH. SO THE FIRE YOU THAT WE NEED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SO AND I MEAN, A AS WE SET THIS IN PLACE, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, REALLY HOPE WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE T DC TO, UM OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT AREA. BECAUSE THIS IS TOURIST DRIVEN. THIS IS NOT DRIVEN, AND HE SO, UM. II I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO. UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE NEED TO APPROACH THEM. WITH THAT, UM, THAT IN MIND? YEAH, THAT WAS YOUR YOU'RE LEANING INTO MY THOUGHTS. UM BUILD ON. THAT IS, UM, ORIGINAL. UM. MY MY OUTLOOK ON THIS IS, I GUESS, UM, A LOT LIKE, UM, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, KIND OF LIKE, UH, DOT. PRIORITY AND FUNDING PRIORITY AND FUNDING PRIORITY. YES WE HAVE PRIORITY, NO DOUBT. UM THAT'S HANDS DOWN.WE HAVE PRIORITY. UM THE FUNDING IS, UM YOU KNOW THIS? EXPERIENCE WE CAME UP WITH, UM, DIDN'T HAVE
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ANY CONTINGENCIES IN IT, SO IT'S RUNNING ROUGHLY. WHAT ABOUT $800,000 A YEAR? UM. YEAH, 755.UM, BUT WE'RE HAVING A SHORTFALL TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT. SO OF COURSE, MY IDEAS ARE ALTERNATE FUNDING. UM BECAUSE WE WERE AS WE JUST MENTIONED OUR BUDGETS INCREDIBLY TIGHT. UM, WE JUST WENT UP ON THE, UM INTEREST RATES ON OUR BOND. SO IF WE COULD GET SOME ALTERNATE FUNDING TO SOURCE THIS. UM IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PURSUE, AND SOME OF THE, UM, IDEAS THAT I HAD, UM THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, BACK TO THE, UM. THING I BROUGHT BEFORE WITH THE HOSPITALS, UM, ASSESSMENT. TRYING TO GET A GET CONTRACTUALLY UNDER AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO FOR THEM TO BASICALLY UM, IT'S JUST WAY WAY I LOOKED AT THAT AS BASICALLY BEING A GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNER. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING TO THE COMMUNITY WANTING, UM AS TO HELP THEM AND I THINK THEY SHOULD. RETURN THE FAVOR. WE AND THE PORTIONS OF THIS. THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE GETTING IS NOT REALLY COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET AS A AS A POOL OF TAX DOLLARS. UM SO WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO COME OUT OF POCKET TO HELP US WITH OUR WITH OUR EMS. UM BUT IT IT'S TAX FUNDS. UM, SO YOU KNOW, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS. YOU KNOW IF WE COULD YOU KNOW, GET A LIKE I SAID. I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT 15% OF THAT OF THAT ASK WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR. AND THAT IS THE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER THAT OUR EMS GOES BACKWARDS EVERY YEAR. AND AS WE GROW, SO WILL THAT, UM THAT NEGATIVE NUMBER WILL GROW AS WELL. S. SO THESE WHEN THESE LIFEGUARDS ARE PULLING THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER, AND IF THEY'RE SEVERE ENOUGH, OF COURSE, THE EMS IS GOING TO BE TAKING THEM TO THE HOSPITAL. UM, SO AGAIN. WE'RE WE'RE PICKING UP. UM THEIR CUSTOMER BASE AND WE'RE RUNNING. WE'RE RUNNING IT TO THEM AS WE GO BACKWARDS AND ON A ON A ON OUR ON THE TAXPAYERS' FUNDING ON THAT MECHANISM. UM SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN ONES THAT I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD TRY TO ADDRESS.
UH, THE T DC AS YOU MENTIONED, BILL, UM IS OF TRYING TO GET MORE OF THAT 10. UM WE ALL KNOW THE BEACH HAS THEIR OWN POLICE THEIR OWN FIRE THEIR OWN LIFEGUARDS. BUT THAT'S ONLY A DROP IN THE BUCKET OF WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY ACTUALLY REALLY COST. UM, THE AS AND I KNOW I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR UP HERE. BUT OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING AND HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS, UM AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE 50% OF ALL OUR DOLLARS GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AND, UH, WITH THAT WITH THAT UM THE SHERIFF. EVEN IF. EVERY SPRING BREAK. WE SEEM TO HAVE A MELEE OF SOME SORT AT THE BEACH, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. THAT'S JUST JUST HOW IT HAPPENS, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS OR OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS. THE SHERIFF IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. ALL RIGHT, AND IF IT'S SEVERE ENOUGH, HE'S GONNA HAVE HIS HELICOPTER. HE'S GONNA HAVE THE COMMAND CENTER. HE'S GOING TO HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS THAT SERVE EVERYBODY. NOT JUST SOMETHING IN OR OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS OF THE BEACH. SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, UM, THEY VIEW PEOPLE GET ARRESTED. THEY GO TO THE JAIL. THE COUNTY FUNDS THE JAIL UH, THE MUNICIPALITIES DON'T. THEY DON'T FUND THAT, UM SOMEONE GETS HURT. THERE'S AGAIN EMS SHOWS UP. WE'RE TAKING YET ANOTHER CUSTOMER TO THE HOSPITAL. AND THEY YOU KNOW, THEN. BECAUSE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT WE HAVE TO HAVE DUE PROCESS. THERE'S A COURTHOUSE, STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE ALL THAT STUFF THAT AND CLERK OF THE COURT ALL THAT BAY COUNTY TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR ALL THAT MELEE THAT HAPPENED AT THE BEACH WHEREVER IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, SO YOU KNOW. ASKING FOR MORE OF THAT 10% OF T DC FUNDS, I DON'T THINK IS UNREASONABLE. UM, SHOULD.
SOME OF THAT. GO TO THE BEACH. OF COURSE THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE POLICE FIRE AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LIFEGUARDS. AND, UM THEY YOU KNOW, ARE JUST AS MUCH, UH OF THE YOU KNOW, UH, SAFE CITY A SAFE PLACE AS OUR SHERIFF IS, SO WE'VE GOT THE SAME OUTLET THERE. SO THAT'S UM SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE. AND AS YOU MENTIONED ROBERTS PARKING FEES YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
IT'S NOT AN ESTABLISHED INCOME YET. IT'S SPECULATIVE. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE CAN.
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WE'RE GONNA GENERATE. I MEAN, WE CAN DO A PERFORMER AND COME UP WITH OUR BEST GUESS. UM BUT SOMEHOW. THIS 755 IS GOING TO GO UP AND IT IT JUST TEND. IT JUST TENDS TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTINGENCIES. B IN BUILT INTO IT. SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET, SAY 808 $150,000 A YEAR? UH, TO PAY FOR THIS? UM YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PURSUE SOME ALTERNATE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MONEY TO DO THIS. INSTEAD OF PULLING IT OUT OF RESERVE. BECAUSE WE ARE WE JUST HEARD THAT OUR RESERVES A ARE THIN. OUR BUDGETS TIGHT AND OUR RESERVES ARE TH UH SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO WE OUGHT TO PUSH FOR SOME ALTERNATIVE FUNDING IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT'S KIND OF MY VIEWPOINT ON IT. UM. YEAH BACK TO THE PRIORITY. YES WE NEED IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GROWING LIKE CRAZY. WE HAVE FOLKS OUT THERE, UH, IN THE LIFEGUARD PROGRAMS. FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE CITY, THE BEACH ARE IMMENSELY VALUABLE. YOU KNOW, THEY PULL PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER. WHY IT IS A LOT. IT'S A I WAS AMAZED.AT HOW MANY RESCUES THEY DO. ONCE WE STARTED THE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM AND STARTED QUANTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO. IT'S SHOCKING HOW MUCH THEY DO PULL PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER. SO I'M I'M REAL. I'M I'M SOLID WITH THE PRIORITY. YES, WE NEED IT. BUT I, I THINK WE JUST GOTTA COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF ALTERNATIVE FUNDING. PEOPLE. UM YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE UM. WE'VE ALREADY PASSED OUR BUDGET. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHOWING T DC IS, UM, GONNA PUT THE 63,001 73 BACK IN THERE. BUT I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DAN. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M ON THE T DC AND, UM I HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM AND HOPEFULLY HE CAN PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR US. BECAUSE 100% AGREE THAT WE CANNOT, UH GO AFTER OUR RESERVES. WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH WITH SOME MORE MONEY, BUT WITH THE NUMBERS T DC IS BRINGING IN AND HOPEFULLY YEAH. CLERK JUST TO COMMENT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE T DC JUST TO POINT OUT THAT YOU GUYS ARE THE T DC. SO WELL, I. I THINK IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. JUST ASPECT OF MY OPINION. SO I GUESS YOU'RE SAYING IS WE THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN ASK. IT SHOULD BE. A DIRECTION TO THE BOARD. BUT YOU ARE THE T DC. START A CONVERSATION AND BE POLITE AND TRY TO LET'S TRY I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO HAVE A NICE CONVERSATION. SO THE I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. HOW DO WE GET A DEFINITE ON ALTERNATE SOURCES. I MEAN, DO WE DO WE HOW THIS CONTINGENT ON ALTERNATE FUNDING OR WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR APPROVAL TO SPEND MONEY THIS YEAR OUT OF RESERVE. UH IN THE FUTURE T DC REVENUE WILL GROW. SO THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU KNOW THAT 10 THE AMOUNT THAT 10% COLLECTS.
WELL IT HAS GONE UP. HISTORICALLY EVERY YEAR. WE CAN HAVE THIS FOLLOW ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOARD. BUT AS YOU SAID, IT'S A PRIORITY. THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHETHER WE FUND IT OR NOT. WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PUT PERSONNEL ON THE BEACH TO AFFECT THESE RESCUES. AND AS I SHARE WITH YOU THE LAST MEETING, THAT'S MY OPINION THAT OUR CURRENT PROCESS IS NOT SAFE. WE HAVE PERSONNEL WHO ARE OUT THERE AFFECTING RESCUES UPON RESCUES UPON RESCUES DURING THESE DAYS, AND WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GO BACK TO THE FIREHOUSE AND ANSWER FIRE CALLS. IT IS A MATTER OF TIME. FOR SOMEONE THAT'S INJURED. THIS IS A THIS IS A DEFINITE. UM.
THOUGHT OUT APPROACH TO WORK ON THAT NOT OCCURRING. WE'RE GONNA WE'RE CURRENTLY UH I THINK THE ALTERNATE IS WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING OVERTIME TO THESE EMPLOYEES. SO WE'RE SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE BUD. IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY. WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO DO IS FORMALIZE THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE WE KNOW THE NEED IS THERE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE. UM WE'VE DONE IT ON A WHAT I WOULD CALL A DEMAND BASIS , WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE GOES OUT THERE LOOKS AT THE FORECAST AND SAYS HEY, TODAY WE'RE GONNA GO TO DOUBLE RED. AND THEN WE HAVE AN INTERNAL PROCESS RIGHT NOW. WHERE STAFF CALLS AROUND. SEES
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WHO'S AVAILABLE TRIES TO GET MANPOWER OUT THERE TO A STATION. AND GET ON THE BEACH AND BY THAT POINT IN TIME UM, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR HAVE PASSED AND EVERYBODY THAT'S ON DUTY IS ALREADY GOING UP AND DOWN THE BEACH, TRYING TO GET RESCUES DONE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER. THIS IS A MORE DEFINITIVE PROGRAM WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE ON DUTY. THEY HAVE A DEFINED ASSIGNMENT. THIS IS THEIR PRIMARY JOB. THEY WILL WORK THESE HOURS. THEY WILL GO HOME AT THE END OF EVERY DAY TO GET SOME REST. THERE'S OVERLAP. SO LAST YEAR WE LITERALLY HAD PEOPLE THAT DID NOT GET THAT THEY DID NOT GET DAYS OFF. THE SEASON. OF THEIR SHIFT. THEY WERE CALLED IN ON OVERTIME TO DO THIS. THEY LITERALLY THIS IS GONNA OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS , SO WE WILL. WE WILL SAVE SOME OVERTIME BY DOING THIS, BUT TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER, ABSOLUTELY. WE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING TO NOT TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON RESERVES. BUT IF THE BOARD IS ON BOARD WITH HAVING THIS HAPPEN FOR THIS SEASON, THEN OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US VIA THE T DC AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, FROM RESERVES IN BOTH M SS TU AND IN GENERAL FUND. OK JUST TO KIND OF ANALOGIZE. THIS THIS IS LIKE WHAT WE DID AT THE BUDGET WHEN WE INCREASED OUR EMS FOOTPRINT BUDGET AS WELL BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING SO MANY OUR AMBULANCES RUNNING AND OUR STAFF. THIS IS AS MUCH ALSO POTENTIAL WORKERS COMP OR EVEN WORSE CLAIM FROM THAT END OF YEAH. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE. THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD A SIGNIFICANT INJURY OR FATALITY YET TO ANY OF OUR RESCUERS YOU HAVE SEEN WHERE WE HAVE HAD UH, GOOD SAMARITAN. RESCUERS GO INTO THE WATER AFTER INDIVIDUALS AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN AS FORTUNATE. I'D LIKE TO ONE BECAUSE OUR FOLKS ARE CRITICAL THINKERS. THEY PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING . THEY ACT SAFELY. THEY DON'T PUT THEMSELVES IN THOSE SITUATIONS, BUT TWO UM, THEY SPEND AN INORDINATE A MOUNT OF TIME MAKING SURE THEY'RE PHYSICALLY CONDITIONED TO DO THIS. AND YOU ALL HAVE MADE THE FIDUCIARY APPROPRIATIONS IN THEIR BUDGETS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROPERLY EQUIPPED, AND THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THAT. SO EVERYTHING IS HITTING. THIS IS JUST REALLY THE STAFFING. IT'S THE DEMAND FOR THE SERVICE. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE YEARS. YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WAS A BANNER YEAR. UM WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN , WE HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY LIKE WE GO THROUGH LULLS WHERE WE HAVE VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY. THESE EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON DUTY. AT THAT POINT, THEY WILL HAVE OTHER DUTIES TO FULFILL. AS FAR AS ANSWERING FIRE ANSWERING MEDICAL CALLS. LIFEGUARDING ON THE BEACH. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, ARE CUTTING DOWN ON EVEN HAVING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL LABOR THAN THIS BY THE USING THE CODE. UM FOLKS ON THOSE OF DOUBLE RED FLAGS. UM WITH THEY'RE ALREADY EMPLOYED WITH US, YOU KNOW, CAN DEPLOY THEM LIKE QUICK TO START. TELL PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THE WATER AND THAT SORT OF THING. THESE TASKING ON THOSE DAYS INSTEAD OF DOING CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY RESPOND TO THE BEACH. THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION IS TO GET FLAGS CHANGED. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS OF THAT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO BE INTERNALLY DEMOING. SOME EQUIPMENT MAYBE. POTENTIALLY LOOK AT GOING AWAY FROM PHYSICAL FLAGS TO A LIGHTING SYSTEM. ONE OF THOSE LIGHTS CAN BE CHANGED FROM A CELL PHONE APP AS OPPOSED TO US HAVING TO DEPLOY STAFF ONTO THE BEACH AND GO DOWN 18 MILES OF BEACH AND CHANGE. EVERY SINGLE FLAG ON EVERY SINGLE POLE. AND ALSO ONCE THAT IS DONE THEIR MISSION, THEN CHANGES TO GETTING ON THE SANDY BEACH AND ACTUALLY MAKING SURE THERE WAS COMPLIANCE WITH PEOPLE BEING OUT OF THE WATER RIDING CITATIONS SO THAT OUR SURF RESCUE PERSONNEL AREN'T DUAL HATTED. HAVING THE INFORM THE PUBLIC AND RIGHT CITATIONS. I THINK WE ARE ALSO EXPERIMENTING WITH SOME DRONE.UM. I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I FORGOT WHAT THE REAL NAME OF THEM OR IF THEY HAVE A REAL NAME, BUT IT'S A SOMEONE OPERATES A DRONE AND SENDS A, UM, LIFE SAVING DEVICE OF SOME SORT LIFE RING OUT TO THE PERSON AND IF WE CAN I MEAN, IF THAT WORKS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT THING DOWN, PAT, THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING A LOT OF LIVES IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND REDUCING A LOT OF THIS LABOR, SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE WORKS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING TOWARD TRYING TO GET THIS BACK UNDER CONTROL THIS WITH THE AND WITH ANY OF YOU GUYS, WOULD YOU ALL BE ANE TO HAVING STAFF LOOK AT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE SOME KIND OF CONTRACT WITH THE HOSPITALS ON SOME KIND OF A SHARED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THEM. YOU KNOW? I LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AND EXPLORE THAT MORE. UM I'M NOT AGAINST CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I WANT TO GET INFORMATION ON HOW THAT WOULD WORK AND, UH THAT WOULD BE FORMALIZED. BUT OK, THAT'S THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE HAVE AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE. YEAH, I DON'T. I DON'T. I DON'T WANNA TIE IT TO THIS. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, JUST BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY DURING BUDGET SEASON, BUT ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR ME? YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM WE
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GOTTA GET AHEAD OF, UM BECAUSE OF, UM THE LEGAL NOTICES THAT GO OUT, SO IT'S SOMETHING IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY. I THINK THE FIRST LEGAL NOTICES GO OUT AND JUNE, MAYBE OR MAY RIGHT. SO UH, WE'RE NOT THAT FAR OUT, UM, BEFORE THAT PROCESS STARTS. UM SO IT'S UM, IT'LL IT'LL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS.WE'LL FINISH THIS ONE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK TO US ON WHITE PAPER ON AUCTIONS THERE AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE. WE ARE ONE OF THE THING, UM, COMING AS I THINK WE COULD WORK WITH THE BEACH. THEY HAD TRIED A PROGRAM WITH THE CONDOMINIUMS TO, UM AND I THINK DAVID CHAPMAN'S GROUP IS THE ONLY GROUP. YEAH, THAT STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND PUT THE, UH YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE LIFEGUARD AND THE ON THEIR BEACH AND I WANT TO GIVE THEM A BIG KUDOS FOR THAT. BUT PROBABLY IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING WE COULD INTRODUCE TO THE CONDOS THAT MAYBE WASN'T QUITE AS EXPENSIVE LIKE THEY COULD PAY FOR ONE LIFEGUARD. OR THEY COULD DO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T UM IS EXPENSIVE AS THAT. I THINK THEY GOT STICKER SHOCK ON, UH, THE PRICE OF THAT WHOLE THING THAT THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY OF GETTING IN. IT WOULDN'T TAKE MANY CONDOS TO PAY FOR THIS LIKE QUICK. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE BEACH BECAUSE THEY THEY STARTED THAT, UM AND IT JUST DIDN'T GET EVEN IN ON THE WORST TWO BUILDINGS WITH THE MOST PROBLEMS AND THE MOST PEOPLE. I JUST DIDN'T THEY WOULDN'T DO IT. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT YOU KNOW THEY WERE ACTUALLY PULLING MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET. I THINK IT'S LIKE $100,000 A YEAR. TO HELP OUT WITH THE LIFEGUARD SITUATION AT THE BEACH. WE APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH, OK, ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE? NO, OK. DO AND YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION. I MADE ONE, BUT WE'LL MAKE IT. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER PEACE. YES MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER DOZIER? YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MORE. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARROLL? YES, MA'AM.
CHAIRMAN HALF. YES, MA'AM. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NEXT ONE. I COULD I ASK STAFF WOULD THAT BE OK IF YOU WOULD WORK WITH THE CHAIRMAN TO COME BACK WITH A WHITE PAPER, GET INFORMATION AND COME BACK TO MYSELF, AND, UM COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE A WORK ON WHITE PAPER BACK RIGHT. OK.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM RIGHT. SO I GUESS WE GO NEXT, UH, PORTER LANDING IMPROVEMENTS.
[General Services]
UH, YES, SIR. MR CHAIRMAN. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE BOARD AWARD CONTRACT 24-12 PORTER LANDING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT HP, HARDERS AND SUN INC IN THE AMOUNT OF $517,135 AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. GREAT ADDITION.LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT. YEAH, I'VE LOOKED AT THE DRAWINGS ON THIS. UM, IT'S THAT IT'S A HUB OF ACTIVITY UP THERE ON THE ON THE CREEK AND IT'S, UH VERY MUCH NEEDED. I THINK IT WILL GO GO A LONG WAY TO SERVE TO SERVE THESE PEOPLE THAT, UH, LOVE TO DO THAT. MAYBE THAT WILL NOT AS MANY PEOPLE WOULD JUMP OFF THE BRIDGE INTO THE CREEK AS THEY I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DONE THAT MYSELF AS A YOUNG MAN, A YOUNG 20 YEAR OLD. ME TOO. UM, BUT I, I THINK IT'S UH I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT A GREAT ASSET. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS SIDE. WE PUT THIS TOGETHER TO PRIMARILY FOR I MEAN. HANDS DOWN. IT'S ALL ABOUT SAFETY OUT THERE. AND SO WE PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR THE SAFETY FACTOR, BUT UM, TO GIVE CANOERS KAYAKER A PLACE TO SAFELY GET OUT OF THE WATER. AND, UH AND GO TO THE CAR. UM THEIR VEHICLE OR OR GET A RIDE BY THE, UH, CANOE LIVERY.
HOWEVER, THEY SET IT UP. AND KEEP HIM AWAY FROM THE MAIN ROAD AT 388. IT'S DANGEROUS. AND SO.
UH, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON. YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAD A DRAWING ON THIS AND UM , IN THE FUTURE, UH, WORKING TOWARDS DOING A LITTLE EXPANSION ON THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT CAN GO UP. IN THIS AREA, AND SO, UH, MORE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PARKING UP THERE. UM YOU KNOW FOR THE VEHICLE SO THEY WON'T BE PARKED ON THE ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT AND THAT'S SOME OF THE THOUGHT GOING INTO THIS AND, UH UM BUT I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD FIRST STEP. IT'S GONNA HELP THAT AREA OUT A GREAT BIT. THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS ON, UM AS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH OPENING NEWPORT, STARTING NEW PARKS, UM BUYING. NEW PARKS ARE HAVING WHERE SAINT JOE GIVES US, UH, AREAS FOR NEW PARKS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND SO
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IT'S STILL CONCERNS ME. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS GONNA BE ON. DO WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE BUDGET? DO WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO MAINTAIN THE PART AND KEEP IT? BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PARKS NOW AND WE'RE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN THEM PROPERLY. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THAT'S MY ONLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. AND AS FAR AS IT BEING A SAFETY, UM YOU KNOW IS THE IS THE BIG PLUS FOR ME. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S PORT A POTTIES OUT THERE OR IF WE'RE CONSIDERING BUILDING A RESTROOMS BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM THAT FOLLOWS US. I DON'T WANT US TO KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BUDGET ANYTIME WE BRING. UM SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO US. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO MAINTAIN IT. AND SOMEONE PROMISED ME A PRICE ON A ON US BUILDING A BATHROOM, UH, AT THESE PARKS INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF USING THE PORT, A POTTIES OR THE OR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, PAYING $250,000 TO HAVE SOMEONE BUILD A BATHROOM, WHICH IS JUST SO FAR BEYOND MY THOUGHT PROCESS. I CAN'T EVEN GET THERE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US COME BACK WITH A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE AND, UM A PRICE ON US BUILDING. UM, YOU KNOW, RESTROOM FACILITY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. WHAT ARE THOSE PREFAB THINGS? YOU DISTRIBUTED LA LAST TIME BEFORE? I THINK SHE IS A GOOD IDEA. I THINK, I. I THINK SOME PRICING CAME BACK ON THOSE, UM, WHERE THEY THEY SAID THEY WERE VERY EXPENSIVE. I I DON'T KNOW. AND I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOP THEM AROUND. UM AND II. I STILL THINK , UM, ROUGHING IN A LITTLE PLUMBING FOR A TOILET IN THE SINK AND 44 YOU KNOW SOME WALLS ON OUR DOORS? IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT 250. EVER. THE IN THE MAINTENANCE IS, IS THIS THE THING THAT KEEPS STICKING WITH ME THAT THAT, UM, I STAY CONCERNED ABOUT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT AND I LOVE IT, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. UH, I JUST WANT US TO I KNOW SOME OF THEM. UH SO A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT AND HOW IT STARTED. IT WAS. YOU KNOW, THE PORTER FAMILY, UM, DID A LAND SWAP WITH THE, UH, WATER MANAGEMENT AND SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH WATER MANAGEMENT ABOUT THAT MAINTENANCE. AND I'M SEEING IF THEY WOULD INCORPORATE IN WITH THE REST OF THEIR PARKS UP IN THAT AREA. AND SO WE'RE THOSE A RE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS AND, UM UH, THE ONE. ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF ON THIS. THIS IS NOT DESIGNED AS A MAGNET TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THIS LOCATION. THIS IS DESIGNED TO GIVE PEOPLE A SAFE PLACE TO EXIT THE WATER AS THEY FINISH THEIR CANOE TRIP. AND SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UM BUILD SOMETHING. I BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO COME. WE WANT THEM TO GO THERE, RIGHT? YEAH WE WANT HIM TO END IN THE TRIP. GET OUT OF THE WATER SAFELY AND LEAVE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT. I THINK IT'S GREAT. AND, UH AND SO THE AND SO TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE, UH, MAINTENANCE. WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH WATER MANAGEMENT TO SEE IF THEY WILL WORK WITH US, UH, CLOSE ON ON DOING THE MAINTENANCE UP HERE IF I COULD JUST CHALLENGE OUR TEAM TO DO ONE MORE THING IS WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING THESE PROJECTS BACK TO US. BRING A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, 12. SEE IF THEY CAN FIND SOMEONE TO ADOPT THE PART. WE HAVE THE PROGRAM IN PLACE. IT IT IS IT IS GOING TO WORK. WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOMEONE ADOPTING THE YOU KNOW THE PARK AT THE BEACH, THE HANDICAP PARK AND SO IF THEY COULD I JUST WANT TO CHALLENGE THEM THAT AND I KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE UP FOR THE CHALLENGE. SO IF WE COULD GET GET SOMEONE TO HELP US, YOU KNOW PAY FOR IT IN LONG TERM BECAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE IT. AND THAT AREA ALSO KEEP IN MIND. WE DON'T HAVE ANY UTILITIES IN THAT AREA, SO THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE TO CONNECT THE RESTROOMS TO YOU TO PUT ON A SEPTIC AND DRAIN FIELD AND WE GOT WETLANDS ALL AROUND IT. WETLAND BUFFER, SO WELL, MAYBE MAYBE IT'S NOT A PLACE FOR A REST THERE, BUT BUT THE PORT A POTTY THING. FOR SURE. BUILDING FOR THE RESTROOM, BUT THEY HAVE IT SPRING AT AT, UH, T HIGHWAY 20. THEY HAVE SPRINGS THERE. THAT'S NOT ONE THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A NICE CONCRETE BUILDING. UM, I, I YOU KNOW, I WOULD TAKE A PORTA POTTY OVER THAT ANY DAY. AND, UH, THAT'S WELL. IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S DONE. YEAH I. I KNOW I CAN SHARE YOUR SENTIMENT ON THAT THEY THEY'RE WORSE. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU ARE GREAT. SO, UM. AND WHEN YOU GET OFF OFF GRID LIKE THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU GET OFF GRID THE, UH THE BILL IS TO HAVE IT. HIGHWAY 20. THEY LOOK NICE FROM THE OUTSIDE. BUT WHEN YOU GET INSIDE OF THEM, YOU REALIZE THAT, UM UM. THAT THAT IS NOT THE MOST PLEASANT PLACE TO BE. AND SO, UH, ANYWAY,[01:45:05]
THERE'S SOMETHING WE WOULD THINK ABOUT. YEAH. OK, ANYTHING ELSE? MUCH TO APPROVE. OK GOT A MOTION MOTION IS SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL COMMISSIONER. PEACE COMMISSIONER MOORE YES, COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'RE[Community Development]
GONNA GET INTO PUBLIC HEARING. UH, HE'S A PLZC, A TWO 2230040 ZONE CHANGE. 26 05 THOMAS DRIVE.WAY, PORTER. AND EXCUSE ME. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TALK TO THIS ITEM. WILL YOU PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN? OR A FIRM ABOUT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH. THE WHOLE TRUTH. NOTHING BUT TRUTH. THANK YOU. THE EXPORT.
SEEING THE PROJECT, BUT I HAVE NONE. UH, FOR ME THE PROPERTY SPOKEN WITH THE, UH, AFRICANS REPRESENTATIVE. UM SA ME THING. FA MILIAR WITH PROPER SPOKEN WITH APPLICANTS, REPRESENTATIVE I'VE SEEN THE PROPERTY AND SPOKEN WITH AFRICANS REPRESENTATIVE WELL. I'M NUMBER FIVE, THE SAME THING. OK? RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, MR MR PORTER. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN ON JANUARY 16TH. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION. OF AN APPROXIMATELY 2.4 ACRE PORTION OF A LARGER PARCEL. FROM THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE C TWO PLAZA COMMERCIAL ZONE DISTRICT.
THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 26 AND FIVE THOMAS DRIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. HAD THE INCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY ZONED C THREE AND C FOUR. ALL ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN THE PROPOSED ZC TWO ZONING DESIGNATION ARE ALREADY PERMITTED IN THE C THREE AND C FOUR ZONING DESIGNATIONS. UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. UH, WE DID RECEIVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS, UH THERE WASN'T A SOUND OBJECTION OR OR SUPPORT JUST, UH IT WAS MORE INQUISITIVE. IN NATURE. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. FOR APPLICANTS REPRESENTED. GOOD MORNING, HOLLY MELZER ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER AND THE APPLICANT 528 BUNKERS COVE, PANAMA CITY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. ANYTHING FOR NO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS THAT WAS IT. NO ONE ELSE STOOD UP. SO I GUESS WE'LL WHAT WAS THE FOUR AND TO SECOND. ON A MOTION IN THE SECOND. COMMISSIONER CARROLL COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER DOZIER. COMMISSIONER, PEACE CHAIRMAN HAM YES, MA'AM. NEXT. WE'LL GO INTO A SMALL SCALE AMEND AND A ZONE CHANGE. DOD P, A 2023 0058. ZC A 2023 0057. THIS, TOO, IS ALSO A QUASI JUDICIAL. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, YOU PULL YOUR STAND BE SWORN IN SQUARE FIRM. BUT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH. NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. I DO. THANK YOU. EXPORT DISCLOSURES ON THIS PARCEL. ME WHERE THE PROPERTY SPOKEN NO ONE. I HAVE NONE. FAMILIAR THE PROPERTY SPOKEN WITH THAT ONE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU AGAIN ON JANUARY, 16TH. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST. TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 2.2 AND A QUARTER ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TIMBERLAND TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM A G TO AGRICULTURE, TIMBERLAND TO C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON HIGHWAY 77 IN THE SOUTHPORT SAND HILLS AREA. APPROXIMATELY UH, LESS THAN TWO MILES SOUTH OF LAKE MERRILL. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND LAND USE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS APPROXIMATELY 100 AND 84 FT OF ROAD FRONTAGE ALONG HIGHWAY 77.
WHERE A MINIMUM OF 100 FT IS REQUIRED IN THE C THREE ZONING DESIGNATION. PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR ALONG HIGHWAY 77 THAT HAS SEEN A SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT TRANSITION TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS WITHIN RECENT YEARS. GIVEN THE GENERAL
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COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN THE EMERGING COMMERCIAL NATURE OF PROPERTIES ALONG HIGHWAY 77 STAFF FILLS THE REQUESTS ARE CONSISTENT, COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. OF COURSE, ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD WOULD BE HELD TO ALL APPLICABLE, DEVELOP MENT REQUIREMENTS. STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD PUBLIC CARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES. UH, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IS THIS A LOT OF RECORD? AN ODD SHAPED PIECE. JUST BEING CARVED OUT. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CARVED OUT. UM AND CURRENTLY UNDER THE. THE CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATION. IT IS IT DOES NOT CONFORM TO OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE ZONE. PROVING THE LAND USE AND ZONE CHANGE WOULD WOULD MAKE IT A, UH CONSISTENT WITH OUR CURRENT. SO THEY DID A LOT SPLIT. IT WAS NON CONFORMING, AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO CORRECT IT. CORRECT? YES. ANYBODY ELSE? OK, JUST IN CASE.MISSED ANYBODY IS ANYBODY SINCE A PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? OK, ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE DOOR. TO YEAH, WE GOT A MOTION RIGHT? OK? YES COMMISSIONER DOZIER.
COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEACE. YES, MA'AM.
[County Attorney]
CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. NEXT SOME WE'VE ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IS PARKING ENFORCEMENT. ORDINANCES, MR. MR CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, I THINK THIS IS A THIRD ITEM ON THIS AGENDA. THAT'S PREPARING FOR HAVING, UM, UH, PAID PARKING FACILITY. UM THIS ONE WILL, UH UH. ADOPT THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES, UM PEOPLE TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES FOR THE PAID PARKING LOT. ALSO MAKES OTHER MINOR MODIFICATIONS. BUT THAT'S THE PRIMARY PURPOSE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? OK YES. OH, NO I. I WANTED TO BRING OUT THE FACT YOU, UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING A PA A PARKING ENFORCEMENT HERE. BUT I, I WANTED TO BRING OUT THE FACT THAT THIS POINT ABOUT THE PARKING FEES. I KNOW WE'VE COVERED THAT EARLIER IN THE, UH AGENDA. UM AND, UH, JUST ONE IF SOMEBODY HAS A. FISHING PAST THE FISH ON THE PIER. THEN THEY'LL BE EXCLUDED FROM GETTING A PARKING PASS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YES. SO WHAT? THEY ARE IN AN ANNUAL PASS I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY GETS AN ANNUAL PASS. THEY'RE NOT HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE AND GET A PARKING PASS AS WELL. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. AND THAT, UM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. IT'S MOSTLY IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC. YOU YOU HAVE TO, UH, GO ON AN APP AND DO IT. BUT WE'RE EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE CAN USE CASH. SO THAT'S THAT'S AN EXPLORATION OF I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER EARLIER THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT, AND SO THAT'S THAT'S NOT BEEN 100 OUT RULED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUT RIGHT NOW, NO CASH. JUST, UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE APP. ANYBODY ELSE? OK ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IS ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT. SO YOU KNOW WE CLOSE THE FLOOR. TO THE BOARD. LIKE MOST OF HER SO AGAIN. MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES MA'AM.COMMISSIONER MOORE? YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER, PEACE CHAIRMAN HAM. YES, MA'AM. UM NEXT INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX RENEWAL. MR LEVER. OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SUR TAX EXPIRES IN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. UM WE WILL BE ASKING THE, UM VOTERS TO CONSIDER A RENEWAL OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TAX. UM, IN NOVEMBER. UM. THE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO, UH, PASS AN ORDINANCE ASKING THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT. SO THIS IS THIS IS THAT STEP WHERE WE'RE ASKING THE, UM ASKING THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO PLACE THIS ON THE
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BALLOT IN NOVEMBER, UM, THE LANGUAGE OF THE OF THE, UM. OF THE ITEM ON THE BALLOT WILL BE IDENTICAL TO WHAT IT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND THE USES WILL BE IDENTICAL TO WHAT IT WAS. EIGHT YEARS AGO. OK, ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. JUST COMMENT. I MEAN, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL THAT WE GET THIS RENEWED. UM YES, THIS IS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT OUR STAFF AND THE OTHER CITIES ARE ABLE TO TAKE AND LEVERAGE WITH DOT AND COME TO THE TABLE WITH ACTUAL MONEY. UM WE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO PROJECTS COME ON WITH CITIES ON OUR OWN, UH, REPLACING JUST BADLY NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T DO WITHOUT THIS. SO THIS IS CRITICAL. WE AND WE'VE GOT THE DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE THAT HOW INCREDIBLE OUR STAFF HAS DONE WITH THIS MONEY. WHAT YOU KNOW, WE LAID OUT THE WEBSITE WE IDENTIFIED ALL THE PROJECTS. HERE'S THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED. UM SO WE'VE GOT THE LIST IN THE BACKGROUND TO PROVE THAT THIS IS VITAL. I MEAN, WE NEED THIS FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO KEEP UP WITH OUR ROADS AND OUR PAVING AND SIDEWALKS. UM SO ABSOLUTELY THIS NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD. UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. JUST UM, AFTER I GET ELECTED I GOT WITH STAFF TO REVIEW HOW MUCH MONEY BEFORE THIS SURTAX WAS PASSED.HOW MUCH WAS IN THE BUDGET BEING ABLE TO BE SPENT AND HOW MUCH IS BEING ABLE TO BE DONE NOW AND FROM ADDRESSING NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS FROM DEP AND OTHERS THAT HAVE GOTTEN US INTO WE WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE GETTING US INTO COMPLIANCE. IT ALLOWED THE STAFF TO BE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE.
I KNOW THE HURRICANE KIND OF AFFECTED WHERE WE ARE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS AND KIND OF SOME STUFF UP, BUT, UM, IF, UH WHAT? WHAT HAVE WE BEEN BETWEEN WHAT WE GET OUR TAX? AND THEN WHAT STAFF'S BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH GOING OUT AND GETTING GRANTS? ARE WE ABOUT 17 TO $21 MILLION A YEAR NOW IN REVENUE GENERATED FOR THE COUNTY. MIRANDA'S. OUR BASE IS MUCH HIGHER AND ORIGINALLY WE WERE 21 TOTAL COUNTYWIDE. ROUGHLY. I WANNA SAY 12 OF THAT WAS COMING INTO THE COUNTY. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD GRANTS IN THOSE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WE WERE RUNNING PROBABLY 15 TO 19 TOTAL. FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS. UH, THIS YEAR, THE STATE IS PROJECTING THAT ZYRTEC TO COLLECT OVER 30 MILLION. I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF THAT WILL BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 19. IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS, UM YOU THIS. THESE PROJECTS BENEFIT THE CITIZENS. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO DIRECT BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AS AN ORGANIZATION. UH, THIS MONEY IS SPENT TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF BAY COUNTY AND THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. IF IT GOES AWAY TO COMMISSIONER CARROLL'S POINT, THERE IS NO OTHER SOURCE. OF COMPLETING INFRASTRUCTURE IN BAY COUNTY THAT WORK WILL WE'LL CEASE AND WE WILL BE BACK ON THE HAND TO MOUTH. APPROACH OF WHAT WE CAN GET FOR, YOU KNOW, BIKE PATHS AND SIDEWALKS AND STORM WATER PROJECTS. UM BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO AND TALK WITH OUR FEDERAL AND STATE PARTNERS AND HAVE MONEY IN OUR HAND. ALLOWS US TO GET TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR GRANT DOLLARS WITH THOSE AGENCIES, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THIS GO WITH AN EMPTY HAND.
HAVE A TWO OR $3 MILLION PROJECT . THEY WON 100% OF THAT FUNDED BY THE LEGISLATURE OR A STATE AGENCY. AND NO SKIN IN THE GAME. WE WERE ABLE TO COME WITH SKIN IN THE GAME. SOMETIMES WE PAY FOR 100% OF SOMETHING. AND UP FRONT AND THEN THE STATE OR A FEDERAL AGENCY WILL COME BACK ON THE BACKSIDE AND PAY FOR 100% OF LET'S SAY WE MAY PAY 100% OF DESIGN THAT MAY COME IN AND PAY 100% OF CONSTRUCTION. OR WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET LEVERAGE. SO, UM HAVING ACCESS TO THIS IS A AS A TOOL FOR US TO LEVERAGE BRING MORE. STATE AND FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS FOR THE COUNTY RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY PAID BACK BACK. THAT'S THE FAIREST APPROACH AND ALSO ALL THE VISITORS THAT COME AND UTILIZE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY'RE PAYING THAT SALES TAX EVERY TIME THEY GO OUT AND EAT AND SHOP AND GO TO PIER PARK AND GO TO THE MOVIE THEATER. SO UH, EVERYONE IS PAYING, UH, ESPECIALLY OUR VISITORS. SO IT'S ABOUT 60% IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ROUGHLY 6% LET ME LET ME NOT THAT THAT THAT NUMBER WAS COMMUNICATED. I THINK THE LAST CYCLE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THAT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED BY THE COMPANY. UH, WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO CERTIFY THAT AMOUNT. OK UM, THE CLOSEST WE WERE ABLE TO GET WAS TO ABOUT 45% ABOUT 45% RIGHT ? BUT WITHOUT IT 100% THAT STILL WOULD BE PAID BY THE RESIDENTS OF EXACTLY SO EXACTLY SO I MEAN, WE'LL 45% IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TAKE, UM BUT, UH, I REMEMBER, UH, PRIOR TO EVEN HAVING THIS INSTITUTED BEFORE THIS ONE INTO, UH UP FOR A VOTE OR ANYTHING. THE BIGGEST IMPACT WE HAD WAS PARTICIPATING, PAVING AT THAT TIME AND PARTICIPATING IN PAVING A LOT OF TIMES. YOU SEE IF YOU SAW A ROAD PAVED OR OR SOMETHING DONE. IT WAS THROUGH THAT PROGRAM WHERE PROPERTY OWNER STILL HAS TO PICK UP A PERCENTAGE OF IT. SO THIS UH THIS PROGRAM IS LESS COMMISSIONER CARROLL AND SO MANY
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OTHERS HAVE SAID. IT'S JUST UM, IS PARAMOUNT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION A YEAR ON AVERAGE THAT WAS TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. INTO TRANSPORTATION. UM, PRIMARILY JUST TO DO MAINTENANCE. SO YOU'RE TALKING THE DELTA BETWEEN 3 MILLION AND 19 MILLION. UH, THE BOARD ALSO MADE THE COMMITMENT THAT IF THE TAX PASSED THAT IT WOULD CUT THE MILLAGE RATE, WHICH IT DID CUT THE MILLAGE RATE BY A QUARTER MIL. WHEN THE TAX PASSED AND SO THAT THAT 3 MILLION AVAILABLE IN THE GENERAL IT WAS NOT RE APPROPRIATED FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE. IT WAS THE BOARD. MADE THE COMMITMENT THAT IF THOSE SALES TAX DOLLARS WERE MADE AVAILABLE, THEY WOULD DO THAT. YEAH, I THINK. JUST 100. SAME WAY YOU GUYS A REARE GOING WITH IT AND WHAT'S GONNA BRING UP THE MILL? YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT INCREASE JUST TO KEEP THINGS MM. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE OR ARE JUST ECHO A LOT OF THE SAME SENTIMENTS AND, UM YES, AND OUR APPROACH. OF NOT BONDING THIS MONEY. HAS BEEN, UM IT IT JUST HANDS DOWN THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE AS BOB MENTIONED. AND UM, BONDING OF WILL WILL HANDCUFF YOU TO WHERE YOU YOU KNOW, CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS. BUT WE'RE WE'RE ABLE TO BASICALLY TAKE A HALF CENT AND TURN IT INTO YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'RE DOUBLING OUR MONEY, SO WE'RE TURNING IT FROM A HALF CENT TO A WHOLE CENT. AND UH, BY LEVERAGING OTHER FUNDS, SO YES, THIS IS A GREAT MECHANISM FOR US. YES, SIR. MR LIEB. BEFORE YOU OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING I. I DID WANNA MENTION WE FOUND A MISSPELLING IN THE ORDINANCE, SO WE WILL CORRECT THAT BEFORE IT'S PUBLISHED. OK, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IN OUR LOCAL FLOOR UP THAT I WAS JUST GOING ON THAT YOU KNOW. EARLIER, I MENTIONED UM JOSIE SEER SOME OF THE GRANTS THAT SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO WRITE FOR. OR UM, ROAD ROAD, PAVING THE STORM WATER PROJECTS AND ALL UM A LOT OF THOSE WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MATCH TO GO WITH IT. YOU WRITE A GRANT. LIKE LIKE, UH, THE COUNTY MANAGER SAID. WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT FOR THEIR MONEY, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME AS WELL. AND SO THIS HAS SALES TAX HAS JUST BEEN ABLE TO, UH AND OUR STAFF. IN MY OPINION, THEY'VE JUST KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK. THEY'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH STRETCHING THESE DOLLARS, NOT BONDING THEM AND PUTTING US IN THE DEBT AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. ALL RIGHT. UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR UP. TO SERVE. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS JOE HOLT 144 HARRISON AVENUE. CITY TODAY. I'M HERE AS A 2024, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE BAY COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UH, FIRST, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT THE CHAMBER IS VERY PROUD OF THE ROLE AND POSITION THAT WE PLAYED IN THE 2016 ADOPTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX. UH, IT'S BEEN VITAL FOR THE TRANSFORMATION OF OUR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE HERE LOCALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM EXCUSE ME. SO, UH, WE'RE, UM WE'RE WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL AGAIN. AND, UH, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. HE IS, UH, NOT ONLY HAS A SALES TAX LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID IT WAS SO IMPORTANT IN PLAYING KEY ISSUES AND FUNDING SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT IT ALLOWED OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND OUR OFFICIALS TO GO AND GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THAT'S THROUGH THE STATE THROUGH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND WE I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY HERE AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS TO LOOK AT THE BAY COUNTY FLORIDA.GOV WEBSITE. LOOK AT THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING AND WHAT THE SURTAX IS FUNDING AND SECONDLY, THIS MORNING, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE CHAMBER IS ENTHUSIASTICALLY ENDORSING THE EXTENDING OF THE NEW OR THE EXTENDING THE BAY COUNTY SURTAX FOR THIS ADDITIONAL YEAR. WE BELIEVE EXTENDING THE SURF TAX IS IMPERATIVE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE IMPROVING AND EXPANDING THE CAPACITY OF OUR LOCAL ROADWAYS AND REDUCING TRAFFIC CONGESTION, REDUCING NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODING, INCREASING ROADWAY SAFETY AND CREATING PROMOTING JOBS HERE IN BAY COUNTY. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE AND INFORM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE, SO THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO OK, CNN WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND TURN OVER TO THE BOARD. TO APPROVE. MOTION IN THE SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEACE COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM[02:05:03]
CHAIRMAN HAND. YES, MA'AM. CAN WE GET, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT? REPORT COUNTY MANAGER[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT]
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REPORT. YES SIR. MR CHAIRMAN, TWO ITEMS BRIEFLY. UH, THE FIRST IS I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, MATTHEW. LINDY IS HERE WITH US TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE. MATTHEW STAND UP. HE'S OUR NEW CHIEF EMERGENCY SERVICES. A NUMBER OF YOU GOT TO MEET HIM. YESTERDAY WAS HIS FIRST DAY OK, HAD TO COME TO HIS FIRST COMMISSION MEETING TODAY. THEY DON'T USUALLY LAST THIS LONG.HOPEFULLY HE'LL COME BACK TO WORK TOMORROW. WE'RE EXCITED, AND CERTAINLY GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. UH, THE OTHER ITEM BRIEFLY IS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXTEND PERSONAL THANKS TO EACH OF YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT OF MY CONTRACT, CONSIDERING THAT PASSING THAT DAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY. SHERRY HAS SOMETHING ONE SECOND AND I WAS JUST AS WE CLOSING UP. THERE IS NOT ANOTHER. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. WE DO OK. OK I'M GLAD YOU PUT ANY QUESTIONS IN ANYBODY'S MIND ABOUT WHO ACTUALLY RUNS THE COUNTY. OK UH, YEAH. UM IT IS MISSING. OK I GUESS BEFORE WE'LL
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GO INTO CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, WE WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT NOW BE OPEN UP TO IN THE AUTUMN THAT YOU I THINK THE BIG COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY OVER WHETHER WE DO OR NOT. GLAD TO SEE THAT. YOU ADDED THAT I WAS WORRIED. I DROVE ALL THE WAY OVER HERE. YEAH, YOU SAT HERE FOR TWO HOURS. SO MY NAME IS DAVID HOWARD. UH, I OWN A REAL ESTATE COMPANY HERE IN TOWN, ACTUALLY OUT ON THE BEACH, AND WE MANAGE VACATION RENTALS, AND I'M COMING TO YOU OUT OF SOME CONCERN IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS. SO YOU GUYS ADOPTED, UH, SOME NEW RULES FOR BAY COUNTY AND THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF A, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL CERTIFICATE THAT'S REQUIRED. AND THIS WENT INTO EFFECT THIS YEAR. BUT YET WE CAN'T GET ANY GUIDANCE. THERE'S NO ONE PERSON THAT CAN GIVE US A STRAIGHT ANSWER WHEN IT COMES TO IMPLEMENTING THIS THE TIMETABLE UH, THE THINGS THAT ARE TO BE DISPLAYED IN THE PROPERTY, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO, UH THERE'S JUST NOT ANYBODY THAT CAN SHARE WITH US ANYTHING DEFINITIVE, MUCH LESS SHARE WITH US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SOMETHING SHOULD LOOK LIKE. AND IF YOU GO TO YOUR WEBSITE, AND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE SHARING WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS. IT'S QUITE CONFUSING . IT'S NOT BROKEN DOWN INTO LAYMAN'S TERMS. THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO THIS THIS THIS AND IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS. THIS AND THIS BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR INSPECTION. IF ANYTHING, IT SAYS YOU SHOULD DO THESE THINGS BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR INSPECTION AND YOUR CERTIFICATE NUMBER SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THESE THESE PIECES OF MATERIAL THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GO PAY TO HAVE PRODUCED. BUT YET YOU DON'T GET THAT CERTIFICATE NUMBER UNTIL AFTER YOUR INSPECTION. HAS TAKEN PLACE , SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, UH, TO KIND OF STEP BACK DIGEST. MAYBE PULL A COUPLE OF FOLKS LIKE MYSELF AND IN AND IN A WORK SESSION AND LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO THESE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE EAGER TO DO SOMETHING THE RIGHT WAY. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO TAX COLLECTION. THERE'S A BREAKDOWN IN, UH, IN IN TAX COLLECTION FOR THE COUNTY. AND THE VACATION RENTAL WORLD. WE BRING RESERVATIONS IN FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS FOR FORTUNATE ENOUGH. WE BRING THEM DIRECT, BUT WE RELY ON PLATFORMS AND PLATFORMS ARE VRBO AIR BNB AND A FEW OTHER SMALLER PLATFORMS IN THE MARKET TODAY, VRBO USED TO BE OUR PRIMARY. THEY USED TO BE THE BIG DOG ON ON THE BLOCK. WELL TODAY, AIR BNB IS THE BIG DOG ON THE BLOCK, AND IT'S A GENERATIONAL THING. OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS , WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INFLUX OF VACATION RENTAL HOMES THROUGH COVID, UH, WE WE'VE GOT MORE VACATION RENTAL HOMES THAN WE'VE HAD IN OUR HISTORY HERE IN BAY COUNTY. SO I GOT TO LOOKING AT THIS WHEN T DC CAME UP AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT AN ADDITIONAL 1% AND I SCRATCHED MY SET, SAID WHY? WHY WOULD THEY NEED 1% WHEN OUR TAX BASIS IS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE SET UP NEW PROPERTIES, WE SEE THE SAME THING THAT OTHER PROPERTY MANAGERS DO. INDIVIDUALS DO AND A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE COME ON BOARD. YOU KNOW, THE PAST THREE YEARS ARE ARE SELF MANAGED, AND THERE'S A COLLECTION RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH THE COUNTY WITH VRBO. SO WHEN YOU SET UP AN ACCOUNT WITH VRBO VRBO ASK YOU FOR YOUR STEAK TAX ID NUMBER AND THEY ASK YOU FOR YOUR COUNTY T DC LODGING NUMBER. THEY COLLECT EVERYTHING[02:10:01]
AND THEY SEND IT IN AND EVERYBODY'S ABOVE BOARD. WE DON'T HAVE THAT COLLECTION RELATIONSHIP WITH AIRBNB AND AIRBNB BEING THE PRIMARY COLLECTOR OUT THERE NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE GO AHEAD. IF YOU WANNA HANG OUT AFTER THE MEETING, WE CAN BE SURE TO. SO WE HAVE TO WITH AIRBNB. WE HAVE TO KNOW. THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STATE TAX ID NUMBER AND WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COUNTY T DC TAX NUMBER BECAUSE THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT, BUT WHAT THEY DO SHOW YOU IS THEY'RE COLLECTING STATE AND THEY'RE COLLECTING A 1% SURTAX AND PEOPLE THINK THAT'S THE COUNTY TAX IF YOU HANG OUT AFTERWARDS BECAUSE WE'RE OUT OF TIME UP HERE, BUT WE CAN. WE'LL TALK. WE'LL WE'LL MEET WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING, AND WE'RE ALMOST DONE. UM ANYBODY ELSE? MR CHAIRMAN? FOR YOU. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW OH, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY ALICIA CARRUTHERS, OK? ALL RIGHT. SO WELCOME. THAT'S NEW FACES. UM ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? NO. OK ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE FOUR AND, UH, THAT WILL WILL GO[CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
INTO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. I GUESS WE'LL START WITH THE COMMISSIONER FOR THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UH I WOULD, UM, BEEN RIDING THROUGH THE MY DISTRICT AND, UM, NOTICED AFTER, UH THE LOCAL TORNADO AND WAS KIND OF RIDING UP IN THE NORTHERN SECTION IN THE FOUNTAIN AREA. UM THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS UP THERE ACROSS MOST OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL DIRT ROADS ARE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ROUGH. YOU CAN'T EVEN GO SLOW AND NOT GET YOUR EGGS SCRAMBLED. UM YEAH, I WAS WONDERING IF STAFF WOULD GET WITH, UM RAILROAD COMFORT AND TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN GET THEM TO. I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH MR BRYANT, BUT I THINK THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. OK BUT BUT EITHER WAY CZARS ARE THERE. WE'LL CERTAINLY REACH OUT, BUT I DO. I DO BELIEVE THAT FALLS ON US. OK, WE'LL GET ON IT EITHER WAY. THAT'S IT. OK? UM. YEAH UM, ONE ITEM WE HAD TODAY WAS, UH ROAD NAMING STANDARDS AND YOU KNOW, I WAS AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE STANDARDS AND LOOKING AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION. UM AS WELL AS, UH, IT IT ALL DEALS WITH 911 SYSTEM AT ALL TIES IN TOGETHER WITH, UH, MERCHANT MANAGEMENT AND 911 SYSTEM. AND, UH, I KNOW I'VE HAD I'VE HAD COMMENTS MADE TO ME AS WELL AS, UM, I'VE SEEN MYSELF WE'VE ALL SEEN IT. WHEN WE'RE OUT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, UM BUSINESSES, PRIMARILY. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR ADDRESSES UP AND A LOT OF THEM. AND THAT THE TIES DIRECTLY TO YOU KNOW PEOPLE LOOKING FOR AN ADDRESS FOR 911. OR A HOUSE FOR 911. AND SO I JUST ALL I WANT TO DO IS BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ATTENTION. UH AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT STATES THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PUT YOUR ADDRESSES UP. BUT UH, SINCE WE WERE DEALING WITH ALL THIS, I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING IT UP THAT, UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO UNDERSCORE THAT TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT AND REMIND PEOPLE PLEASE PUT YOUR ADDRESS ON YOUR, UH, BUILDING.SO AS A 911 IS LOOKING FOR AN ADDRESS, OR, UM, AN EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT IT IT HELPS THEM OUT SO MUCH, AND, UH, IT'S JUST A BIG DEAL. SO IS YOUR DESIRE BE FOR US TO BE WORKED WITH VALERIE SALES OFFICE, AND HE COMES UP WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN TO KIND OF PROJECT THAT OUT THERE. YEAH THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST APPROACH TO IT. BUT UH, JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO THERE. I HAVEN'T SEEN AS BIG OF A PROBLEM. BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO RUN INTO PROBLEMS, BUT, UH BUT THE UH YOU KNOW, JUST NOTICE SOME NOTICING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OK, ALL RIGHT. GO. UH, JUST ONE ITEM, UM, TIS ELECTION SEASON THIS YEAR, AND TYPICALLY, THE CHAIRMAN SITS ON THE CANVASSING BOARD. YOU'RE UP FOR RE-ELECTION. UM, WE HAVE MR P. SHE'S UP FOR ELECTION. UH, DOZIER IS RETIRING. AND YOU NEED TWO CANVASSING BOARD MEMBERS, SO IT KIND OF DEFAULTS TO THE VICE CHAIR, WHICH WOULD BE COMMISSIONER MOORE. UM AND THEN YOU NEED AN ALTERNATE ON THE CANVASSING BOARD. SO SOMETHING WE PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS ON I. I WOULDN'T MIND DOING IT. I'VE DONE IT BEFORE. UM SO I. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR MARK ANDERSON'S OFFICE JUST DUE TO TRAINING AND BECAUSE THE ELECTION SEASON COMING UP THAT I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF US HAVING A DISCUSSION ON WHO IS GOING TO SIT ON CANVASSING BOARD. DEFINITELY SAY THAT THE COMMISSIONER WAR SETS HIS VICE CHAIR WOULD FILL THAT ROLE. UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION. SO IF WE WANTED TO DISCUSS IT TODAY OR THINK ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I THINK IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE NEED TO LET MARK ANDERSON'S OFFICE KNOW JUST BECAUSE OF CHEMIST AND BOARD, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TRAINING THE CERTIFICATIONS, THE FINGERPRINTING AND ALL THE STUFF TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, SO YEAH, YEAH. WHERE I GUESS KIND OF IN A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE
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THERE'S 33 OF US. UM YEAH, UM AND SO IT'S UM BUT, YEAH, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, I THINK. WOULD BE THE CHOICE AND YOU WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE. HAVE ALL THE FUN IF HE'S GONNA DO ALL THE WORK, SO, YEAH. HE'S A VERY PROMPT YOUNG MAN, AND HE'LL BE THERE AT ALL THE MEETINGS NOTHING FOR ME TO DO TO SIT, SIT AND WRITE HIS COAT EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT. UM, IF EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT UM YEAH, YEAH, SURE. YEP ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR. OK? YEP. UM, COMMISSION P. I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE'S NINE DAYS UNTIL SPRING BREAK. YEAH. THE COUNTDOWN IN THE OFFICE. SO, UM AND, UH, I'M ALSO WAS IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR YEARS. I'VE I SAW YOUR VIDEO , I THINK. DIDN'T YOU DO A VIDEO? YEAH. SO, UM IT WAS A GREAT VIDEO. MAYBE YOU COULD BE OUR MODEL. ANY TIME YOU ROLL OUT A NEW, UH, A NEW, UM, BUNCH OF RULES LIKE THIS PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED, AND I THINK WHAT BRINGS MORE CONFUSION IS THE BEACH. HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF RULES THAN THE COUNTY. AND SO, UM, MAYBE WE CAN. HAVE TWO VIDEOS. BUT I THINK THE, UH IT'S IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SIGN UP. I THINK WE HAVE, UM FOUND SOME NEW TAXPAYERS IN THE PROCESS. SO UH, THAT WAS GOOD. A LOT OF FOLKS MAYBE THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO PAY THEIR SHARE OF IT. AND NOW NOW THEY DO. THEY HAVE TO REGISTER WITH DB PR. GET THE NUMBER LIKE YOU SAID IN YOUR VIDEO. SO, UM WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FACEBOOK, UM GROUPS. THAT WE'RE HELPING EACH OTHER. GET THE, UH, PROCESS DONE. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. THEY'D SAY, OH, I. I GOT MINE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WERE PROUD OF THEMSELVES AND HELPED OTHERS WITH THEIR MAPS AND WHAT THEY WERE TO PLACE, UH, IN THE WINDOWS IN THE NUMBERS AND ALL ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT THAT WERE DISCUSSED, SO, UM, KUDOS TO THEM FOR TRYING TO GET IN IN, UH, IN TOW WITH US, AND I HOPE IT'S GONNA SAVE SOME LIVES BECAUSE I'M VERY PROUD THAT FINALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, UH FLAG SYSTEM IN EVERY SINGLE UNIT THAT RENTS SO, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO US HAVING A CALMER, CALMER SUMMER. THANK YOU. UM I JUST THE ONLY THING I WAS SURE WAS GONNA BRING UP TO WAS SPRING BREAKS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.HOPE WE HAVE A GOOD ONE SAFE ONE. UNEVENTFUL ONE. WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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