[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THERE WE GO. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ORDER. IT'S JANUARY FOURTH, 2024. YEAH. WE'RE GETTING. YEAH. ROBERT, ARE YOU THERE? HELLO? YES, SIR. OKAY ALL RIGHT. HEY. I'M HERE. ALL RIGHT. ROBERT'S JOINED US BY PHONE. HE'S A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES, MA'AM. THIS MORNING. INVOCATION TO BE LED BY PASTOR BLAKE SMITH, EMMANUEL BAPTIST CHURCH. AND THE PLEDGE WILL BE MYSELF. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. LET'S PRAY, LORD, WE PAUSE THIS MOMENT AND THIS MORNING FOR JUST A SECOND TO SAY THANK YOU, TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHO YOU ARE, YOUR GREATNESS, AND THIS PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND HOPEFULLY IN OUR HEARTS. LORD, WE ASK IN THIS MOMENT AS WE DO BUSINESS, THAT YOUR WISDOM, YOUR DISCERNMENT WILL INFECT THIS PLACE. HELP US TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOUR WILL WILL DETERMINE. NEEDS DONE. LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE IN ATTENDANCE. THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF MANY THINGS. THANK YOU FOR JESUS AND HIS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IS, IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? YES, SIR. MR. [APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)] CHAIRMAN, I'VE HAD A REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FROM CONSENT TO REGULAR NUMBER SEVEN. OKAY. ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR. NO. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEASE. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES MA'AM. OKAY. NEXT WE'LL GO INTO [PRESENTATIONS] PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE A WATER QUALITY REPORT. PRESENTATIONS. JESSICA GRAHAM OF THE SAINT ANDREW AND SAINT JOSEPH BAY ESTUARY PROGRAM, GOOD MORNING, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY, THIS I DO HAVE ONE SLIDE ABOUT WATER QUALITY, BUT THE REST IS AN OVERALL PROGRAM UPDATE, SO THE SAINT ANDREW'S SAINT JOSEPH BAY'S ESTUARY PROGRAM WAS DESIRED BY CITIZENS FOR A LONG TIME. AND IT WAS THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT FROM DIRECT COMPONENT ONE TO MATCH $1 MILLION GRANT TO GET THIS PROGRAM ESTABLISHED AND TO CREATE THE FIRST EVER, EVER COMPREHENSIVE CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND YOU HAVE A COPY ON YOUR DESK, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE BEING A PROUD MAMA OF DELIVERING THAT TODAY, IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN THE WORKS, JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR PROGRAM DOES COVER THE ENTIRE SAINT ANDREW BAY WATERSHED. BAY COUNTY MAKES UP 60% OF THAT WATERSHED, AND OUR GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE IS SET UP TO INCLUDE ANYONE FROM COMMUNITY CITIZENS THAT CAN SIT ON ANY OF THOSE COMMITTEES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE POLICY BOARD, WHICH IS, COMPOSED OF A LOCALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE COMMISSIONER MOORE AND DOZIER SERVING FOUR BAY COUNTY ON THAT POLICY BOARD AND APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT AND CONTINUED PARTICIPATION. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE CONSERVATION MANAGEMENT PLAN IS A BLUEPRINT FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. IT OUTLINES 14 GOALS WITH 28 ACTIONS OF EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, AND WHO WE NEED TO WORK WITH TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. THOSE ADDRESS THE EIGHT PRIORITY ISSUES THAT WERE INFORMED TO US BY COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND EXISTING INFORMATION. ALL OF THAT WILL ADDRESS OUR DESIRED OUTCOMES, WHICH ARE FOUR DESIRED OUTCOMES THAT ARE WE CALL A MOON GOALS. SO THINGS LIKE CLEAN, SWIMMABLE, FISHABLE WATER NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN TEN YEARS NECESSARILY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARDS THOSE GOALS. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES. AND SO WE WERE TOLD THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, SINCE I CAME ON BOARD IN 2021, WE'VE SUBMITTED 33 DIFFERENT GRANT PROPOSALS. THAT'S ACTUALLY INCREASING. I MADE THESE SLIDES, WITH A TOTAL REQUEST OF $37 MILLION. WE ALSO SUPPORT OTHER PEOPLE PUTTING IN PROPOSALS. SO 15 OTHER GRANT PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED. AND WE'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO SECURE $5.7 MILLION OF THAT SINCE THEN. WE'RE HOPING TO GET GOOD NEWS IN THE NEXT FEW [00:05:06] MONTHS, AS WE HAVE SEVEN OTHER PROPOSALS OUT RIGHT NOW SINCE THE CMP WAS REALLY PRETTY MUCH IN ITS FINAL STAGES THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN SEVEN PROPOSALS WITH A NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS IN THERE, FOR A TOTAL REQUEST OF $23 MILLION. IT GETS DOWN TO THE PROJECT LEVEL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THE CMP. THE CMP IS AT A BROADER LEVEL, BUT IT HELPS GUIDE OUR ACTUAL PROJECT IDENTIFICATION. AND WHAT I LIKE TO PUT OUT IS THAT 14 MILLION OF THAT REQUEST GOES TO OUR PARTNERS. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT OUR PROGRAM. THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE DOING GREAT THINGS HERE. AND 14 MILLION OF THAT GO OUT TO OUR PARTNERS, WHICH INCLUDE THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL. WATER QUALITY REPORT CARD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ASKED BY OUR CITIZENS FOR A LONG TIME. BAYWATCH IS WORKING ON COLLECTING WATER QUALITY ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND HAS DONE FOR 30 YEARS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE DIGESTIBLE. IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK BECAUSE WATER QUALITY IS COMPLICATED, BUT ON THE FIRST PAGE YOU HAVE A BAY WIDE WATER QUALITY REPORT, AND THEN WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE INDIVIDUAL WATER BODIES ON THE SECOND PAGE WITH WATER CLARITY AND SALINITY HIGHLIGHTED BELOW IN THE MAP. ALL OF THE DOTS WITHIN THE MAP ARE THE STATIONS THAT ARE MONITORED. AND THERE. THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE. AND THERE'S ALSO A HOW TO READ THE REPORT CARD ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN A VERY SHORT, SHORT AMOUNT OF SPACE. ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IS TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE OUTFALLS THAT GO INTO OUR BAY. STORMWATER IS ONE OF THE PRIORITY ISSUES THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ADDRESS AND REDUCE THE QUANTITY OF STORMWATER OUR STORMWATER CAN CARRY WITH IT A LOT OF SEDIMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT CONTAMINANTS BIND TO. AND SO THE MORE WE CAN REDUCE THAT, THE BETTER OFF OUR BAYS WILL BE. AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW MANY OUTFALLS THERE ARE AND THE STORMWATER POTENTIAL THAT IS GENERATED THROUGH LAND COVER USE. THE MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE YOU HAVE, THE MORE STORMWATER POTENTIAL YOU HAVE. AND SO THIS WILL HELP TO INFORM WHERE WE SHOULD BE PLANTING MORE TREES AND STRATEGICALLY REFORESTING OUR PUBLIC AREAS. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE AN UMBRELLA PROGRAM. AND SO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE GET ASKED IS HOW CAN WE GET INVOLVED? HOW CAN WE VOLUNTEER? WE DON'T HAVE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS HAVE THEM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL OF THE GREAT VOLUNTEERS INTO DIFFERENT EFFORTS. SO WHAT WE DID WAS CREATE A VOLUNTEER NETWORK. ANYONE CAN JOIN UP FOR IT. THEY CAN POST OPPORTUNITIES IF THEY HAVE IT AND LEARN ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES THERE. AND WE'RE WAITING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ALREADY EXISTS BEFORE WE START GOING DOWN THE PATH OF CREATING NEW THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY LOVE TO HIGHLIGHT IS OUR TEEN OUTREACH COMMITTEE. THIS TARGETS HIGH SCHOOLERS ALL ACROSS THE DISTRICT. ANYBODY FROM ANY SCHOOL CAN JOIN THIS. THEY'VE DONE THINGS LIKE MAKE MONOFILAMENT TRAPS AND THESE VERTICAL WASTER GARDENS THAT YOU SEE PICTURED. THOSE CAN BE DEPLOYED OUT ON DOCKS AND SEAWALLS AND HELP TO RECRUIT ADDITIONAL OYSTERS. THEY GET THEY GROW AND THEN THEY CAN BE USED IN RESTORATION PROJECTS. THEY'VE DONE CLEANUP EVENTS. THEY'VE DONE OUTREACH EVENTS. AND IT WAS JUST OUR FIRST YEAR, AND WE HAD A SMALL BUT MIGHTY GROUP, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE IT NEXT YEAR. THAT'S JUST A VERY BRIEF HIGHLIGHT OF EVERYTHING. COMMISSIONER MAUREEN DOZIER CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR APPOINTING REPRESENTATIVES. AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MAUREEN DOZIER, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK, THIS WHOLE EFFORT IS GREAT. AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, ACQUIRING THE GRANTS. AND THEN I KNOW THE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE ARE MORE GRANTS TO COME AND A LOT OF EFFORT GOING INTO THAT, I THINK, TO ME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, TWO OF THE THINGS, IF YOU BOIL IT ALL DOWN AND YOU ADDRESS THE AS WE ADDRESS THE OUTFALLS IS, ALL THE EFFLUENT COMING, FROM THE RUNOFF INTO THE BAY AND THEN ADDRESS THE OPENING, THE OLD PASS WITH HELPING TO FLUSH THE BAY AND GET, MORE CLEAN, SEAWATER IN THERE TO FLUSH THE BAY. BETTER I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGE COMPONENTS OF HELPING THE HEALTH OF OUR BAY, AND SO THERE'S MANY OTHER SMALL STEPS. ONE OF THE AREAS WE DID TALK ABOUT WAS ADDRESSING THE, THE SEAGRASS. AND THAT IS A BIG EFFORT GOING THERE. HUM, AND, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON THE PROP SCARS AND HOW WE CAN WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON. [00:10:03] APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE THAT THE COMMITTEE IS DOING AND ALL THOSE THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING TO HELP OUT. THANK YOU. YEAH. WELL AND TO ADD TO THAT BEING PART OF IT, THE YEOMAN'S WORK THAT WENT INTO BUILDING THE FOUNDATION THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST NOW GOING TO SEE THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SPENT A LOT OF HOURS AND THEN RAMRODDING US TO MAKE SURE WE ATTEND THE MEETINGS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND, AND KEEP THESE THINGS MOVING. BUT, JUST TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVESTING THE TIME TO WORK ON A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE CARE A LOT ABOUT. THANK YOU. THANKS. PLEASE DO YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING? YOU GOOD? OH, YEAH. THANK YOU MA'AM. YEAH. APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND, AS BEFORE, WE HAVE USED RESTORE MONEY FOR THINGS LIKE THIS, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH, THAT THROUGH, TRIUMPH GULF COAST TO USE RESTORE MONEY TO FOR THESE ESTUARY PROGRAMS. SO IT'S, VERY VITAL, I THINK, IN BASICALLY THE CRUX OF ALL THIS IS BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS PLACE BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE COME FORWARD. OKAY SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND [CONSENT AGENDA] WE'LL GO INTO CONSENT. MR. MICHAEL. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING UNDER THE CLERK OF COURT. ITEM ONE, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE. ITEM TWO FY 2024 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET UNDER PUBLIC WORKS ITEM THREE PIPELINING, CONTINUING SERVICES, CONTRACT STAFFS RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AUTHORIZED STAFF TO PIGGYBACK ON THE VOLUSIA COUNTY CONTRACT WITH INLINER SOLUTIONS, APPROVED THE PIPE AND INLET SYSTEM TASK ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF $345,532 AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND SIGN THE TASK ORDER AND MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM FOUR FIRST RESPONDER RECOGNITION FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITY STAFF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITY STAFF AS FIRST RESPONDERS FOR HOMELAND SECURITY. DIRECTIVE FIVE MANAGEMENT OF DOMESTIC INCIDENTS. ITEM FIVE MAGNOLIA BEACH MULTI-USE PATH PHASE TWO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVE THE DEFENSE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM SIX TITUS ROAD. STATE ROAD 390. LINDSAY CROSSINGS FUNDING AGREEMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED FUNDING AGREEMENTS WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PANAMA CITY TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AT STATE ROAD 390 AND TITUS ROAD. SLASH LINDSAY CROSSINGS, AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENTS AND ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM SEVEN THE PIPELINE ROAD AND US 231 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM EIGHT STATE ROUTE 30 A RIGHT OF WAY TRANSFER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD REVIEW AND SIGN THE ATTACHED LEGAL INSTRUMENTS AND RESOLUTION IS TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY INTEREST TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND AUTHORIZE THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO RECORD SAME ITEM NINE MAGNOLIA RIDGE PLAT APPROVAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD APPROVED THE FINAL PLAT FOR MAGNOLIA RIDGE PHASE ONE, AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO RECORD THE DEVELOPMENT MAINTENANCE BOND LETTER OF CREDIT, AND ACCESS EASEMENT WITH THE CLERK OF COURT UNDER RISK MANAGEMENT. ITEM TEN RENEWAL OF THE BAY COUNTY PROPERTY INSURANCE PROGRAM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE ISSUANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425. PROPERTY INSURANCE FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLERK OF COURT, PROPERTY APPRAISER, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, TAX COLLECTOR, AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'LL GO INTO REGULAR AGENDA. WE'LL GO TO NUMBER SEVEN PIPELINE AND US 231 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE OFF SYSTEM PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTION OF US 231 AT AT PIPELINE ROAD AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT AND RESOLUTION TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. STAFF IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY I'D ASK THAT THIS BE PULLED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. JUST THIS IS, CITIZENS, WHEN I FIRST RAN FOR ELECTION, THERE WERE A LOT THAT WERE ASKING ABOUT THIS AND THE SIGNALIZATION OF THE INTERSECTION AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT OUT AND NOTATE THAT THE COUNTY'S BEEN WORKING WELL WITH THE STATE. KEITH AND HIS GROUP AGAIN, AND JUST BEING ABLE TO GET THIS DONE AND KEITH TO CONFIRM, NOT NECESSARILY TO WALK UP, BUT THIS IS GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF THIS [00:15:03] UPCOMING YEAR, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY SO, THAT ALONG WITH THE, WORK AT 231, 390 IN THE HIGH WILL ALL BE BEGINNING AROUND THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO JUST AGAIN, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITIZENS GOING ALONG 231 AND A CORRIDOR THAT'S GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW. OH YEAH. YES, IT DOES. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS. NO. ROBERT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING. NO SIR I THINK THERE'S A GREAT IMPROVEMENT AND IT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR A WHILE. SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK. THE PARTNERSHIP WITH DOT. OH YEAH. DEFINITELY. THAT THAT AREA IS BUSTING IN THE SEAMS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE GET, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION SECOND? ALL RIGHT. I'VE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE'LL GO INTO NUMBER 11, GULF DRIVE, [County Attorney] LEASE. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THE BOARD APPROVED THE ATTACHED LEASE WITH THE PANAMA CITY, WITH PANAMA CITY BEACH FOR A CANINE TRAINING FACILITY ON GULF DRIVE, THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE BOARD'S PREVIOUS MEETING. ALL RIGHT. YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD ASKED LAST, MEETING TO, TAKE THIS OFF THE CONSENT AND MOVE IT TO THIS MEETING. AND I HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT, I HADN'T GOTTEN RESPONSES FROM YET OR HADN'T GOTTEN TO THE BOTTOM OF IT YET. AND SO, THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I WAS ABLE TO GET ALL MY ANSWERS DONE AND. OKAY SO EVERYTHING'S GOOD THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE GULF TRIBE LEASE? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER PEASE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES MA'AM, NEXT WE GO. NUMBER 12, LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM AGREEMENT. [Public Works] COUNTY ROAD 2297, YES, SIR. ON JANUARY THIRD, 2024, THE BOARD APPROVED THE AGREEMENT WITH FDOT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON 2297 ARLINGTON ROAD FROM POSTING ROAD TO BLUE HERON DRIVE. THE AGREEMENT PROVIDED $216,658 FOR THE PROJECT. THE REQUEST FOR BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WAS ADVERTISED IN A PRE-BID MEETING WAS HELD ON APRIL 2ND, 2024. STAFF EVALUATED THE BIDS AND ROBERTSON ROBERTS WAS THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, WITH A BID PRICE OF $396,362.70, HOWEVER INSISTED NOT ENOUGH FUNDING WAS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT STAFF REQUESTED FDOT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. FDOT AGREED TO PROVIDE $179,705 FOR THE PROJECT. SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR AN FDOT REQUEST. THE BOARD APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS A APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF COUNTY ROAD 2297 SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, AND BE AWARDED THE BASE BID TO ROBERTS AND ROBERTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $396,362.70, AND SEE AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT, RESOLUTION AND CONTRACT AND ANY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS CONCERNS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. KEITH. I GUESS NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WE GET, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND MOTION. IN A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEASE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. TAKE, WE'RE GOING TO. THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC COMMENTS OPEN TO ANY [PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)] ISSUE. YES, MA'AM. COME ON DOWN. ARE IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, MA'AM, WHEN YOU GET DOWN HERE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING . IF YOU WOULD PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN WHERE WE CAN HEAR YOU. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. I TALKED PRETTY LOUD. SO I MAY NOT NEED THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME THIS MORNING, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES, THE FIRST. YOUR NAME? NAME? OH. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS MARY HELMS. MY ADDRESS IS 2029 TWIN OAKS DRIVE, PANAMA CITY BEACH, 32408. OKAY I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES. THE FIRST ONE [00:20:15] I CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT, LINES UP WITH MY BACKYARD, IT'S A VACANT LOT, AND THE. IT'S A JUNGLE. I HAVE PUT, A SOLID FENCE ALONG MY BACK BORDER TO TRY TO KEEP ALL OF THE GROWTH OUT, A YEAR AGO. AND I EVEN CLEARED THE GROWTH ABOUT EIGHT FEET AWAY FROM THERE ON THEIR PROPERTY, FROM MY FENCE, AND PUT SOME ALUMINUM SHEETS ALONG THE BASE OF MY FENCE. SO HOPEFULLY NOTHING WOULD GROW. AND A YEAR LATER, IT'S JUST TAKEN OVER. IT'S COMING OVER MY FENCE AGAIN, AND YOU KNOW, ANYWAYS, I CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY SAID THAT IF IT'S A VACANT LOT, THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A SHED OR ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY, NOTHING CAN BE DONE. WE'VE GOT THREE LOTS THERE THAT THIS JUNGLE IS JUST TAKING OVER. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE CAN BE ANY CHANGES MADE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND MY SECOND ISSUE, IS, ANIMAL CONTROL. WE HAVE A LARGE ISSUE WITH FERAL CATS, AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I CATCH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS AND CALL ANIMAL CONTROL, BUT EVIDENTLY, AS OF LATE, THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR RULES AS MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT WHEN THEY WHEN A FERAL CAT IS CAUGHT AND THEY COME TO GET IT, WHICH, BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE TINY CAGES, WE'VE HAD ONE CAT THAT GOT AWAY TWICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAUGHT HIM THE THIRD TIME, BUT I MANAGED TO. BUT ANYWAYS, WHEN THEY GET A CAT AND SOMEONE CALLS AND SAYS, OH, THAT'S MY CAT, THEY ARE NOW MICROCHIPPING THEM AND GIVING THEM BACK TO THE OWNER WITHOUT HAVING THEM FIXED. SO THIS IS A LARGE PROBLEM FOR ME BECAUSE, I HAVE A CAT THAT I CAUGHT HIM AND LIKE LESS THAN A WEEK LATER HE'S OUT AND IN TWO NIGHTS HE'S ALREADY TAGGED TWO FEMALE CATS. NOW WE HAVE SEVEN MORE CATS FROM THOSE TWO FEMALE CATS BECAUSE OF THE MALE CAT. THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CUT DOWN ON EUTHANIZATION. THAT IS NOT CUTTING DOWN ON EUTHANIZATION. THEY SAID WHEN THEY CATCH IT THE FIRST TIME, THEY GIVE IT TO THE OWNER. SECOND TIME IS $30 FINE. THIRD TIME, 54TH TIME, $100 FINE. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CAT THAT'S GOING TO GET IN A CAGE FOUR TIMES, BUT THEY'RE NOT FIXING THEM. AND THAT'S THE MAJOR PROBLEM. IF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO HANG OUT AFTER THE MEETING, WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT IF I LIKE. WHAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO HANG OUT AFTER THE MEETING. OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE END. WE'RE ABOUT DONE ANYWAY. OKAY JUST HANG OUT AND GIVE US A FEW MINUTES AND THEN, WE CAN SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. ON THE POLICIES ON ANIMAL CONTROL. OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO BILL BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE RETIRING AND WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE AND ALL YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH DURING THAT TIME. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DEMETRIUS ALEXANDER. MY ADDRESS IS 12118 PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY, I'M STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY. JUST TO BASICALLY GO OVER SOME ISSUES THAT I'M HAVING IN MY WORKPLACE, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING. I AM A PROFESSIONAL TATTOO ARTIST, AND BECAUSE OF THE STRICT ZONING ENFORCEMENT, I AM SUFFERING FROM EXPLOITATION BECAUSE OF THE SHOPS IN PANAMA CITY BEACH. THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF THEM. THERE ARE NO LONGER ARTISTS OWNED. THEY ARE OWNED BY FOREIGNERS. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN THINGS LIKE FAIR WAGES AND FAIR HOURS. I'M FORCED TO WORK SIX 12 HOUR DAYS. I DO 100% OF THE WORK. I DO ALL CUSTOMER RELATIONS. I DO THE SERVICE, I COLLECT THE MONEY AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, I AM FORCED TO GIVE HALF OF MY INCOME AWAY. THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT. I'VE CONTACTED LAWYERS. THEY SAID I COULD SUE BUT IT WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE TECHNICALLY I'M SELF-EMPLOYED. I'M AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. I [00:25:03] SHOULD, I SHOULD, GO INTO A BETTER CONTRACT. I SHOULD NEGOTIATE A BETTER CONTRACT. I CONTACTED OSHA, THEY SAID THEY WOULD LOOK INTO IT. THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO. THEY SAID THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THEY CAN DO. I SHOULD EITHER A NEGOTIATE A BETTER CONTRACT OR B GO INTO BUSINESS FOR MYSELF. SO I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I ACTUALLY ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT. I CALLED THE ZONING AND PLANNING BOARD TWICE AT THIS PROPERTY THAT I JUST LISTED. IT HAPPENS. I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS GOOD TO GO AND SO I WENT, I MOVED FORWARD, I FILED MY PAPERWORK WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WITH STERICYCLE AND MOVE FORWARD. I RECEIVED LATE THIS WEEK A SISTER CEASE AND DESIST BECAUSE TECHNICALLY I'M NOT IN THE ZONING. THE BUILDING THAT I'M IN IS AN OFFICE BUILDING. SO OFFICE BUILDING WITHIN AN OFFICE BUILDING, THERE'S NO STOREFRONT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S LITERALLY TEN YARDS INTO A RESTRICTED ZONE NOW BECAUSE BECAUSE OF WHAT IS IT, THE TOURIST CORRIDOR. AND ALL THE RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON THIS. I CAN'T NEGOTIATE A BETTER CONTRACT WITH TATTOO SHOPS, SO I CAN NEVER GET AROUND THIS. I'M ASKING FOR A VARIANCE OR SOME SORT OF PERMITS TO ALLOW ME TO OPERATE AS A PRIVATE STUDIO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU IF YOU TOO WOULD LIKE TO HANG OUT AFTERWARDS, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO GIVE YOU SOME CLARITY ON THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE OKAY. SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND WE'LL GO INTO COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT. MR. CHAIRMAN. MANAGER REPORT. NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. [CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS] CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONER. COMMENTS. ROBERT, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST AND WE'LL CUT YOU LOOSE? YES, SIR, I APOLOGIZE, I COULDN'T BE THERE. WE WERE OUT OF THE COUNTRY DURING THE LAST MEETING, AND THEN I CAME BACK WITH SOME KIND OF EUROPEAN CRUD. BEEN IN BED FOR ABOUT FOUR DAYS AND HOPEFULLY MAKE IT BACK TO WORK SOMETIME HERE SOON. IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO DOT 25% OF OUR, ITEMS TODAY WERE BASICALLY FUNDING AGREEMENTS THAT DOT IS INVOLVED IN AND HELPING MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND, JUST GRATEFUL FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. OKAY GET WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER PEASE, I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOW ANYTHING? NOTHING OKAY. COMMISSIONER MOORE, YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO MENTION SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT ROBERT MENTIONED ABOUT WORKING WITH DOT, WITH KEITH. BEEN IN SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM LATELY, AND, WE I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT KEITH AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE TO CREATE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH DOT AND WE'VE GONE FORWARD WITH ISSUES, BUT WE'VE PRESENTED THEM WITH SOLUTIONS, AND THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER AND WORKED VERY WELL WITH US FOR ALL THESE THINGS ALONG. 231 AND OTHER AREAS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT, JUMPING BACK ON BACK, BACK OR BACK BEACH ROAD AND GETTING THAT MOVED UP AND, AND WORKING THROUGH THAT TO GET THAT SIX LANE TO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO, ONE OTHER THING RELATED TO THAT IS I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON, AND, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING FORWARD A LITTLE WHILE BACK, THE CRC HAD AN EVENT, AND WHILE THEY SAY THEY FOLLOWED THEIR POLICIES, I'M NOT REALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE WAY THEY WENT ABOUT HANDLING THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND HOW MUCH THAT THEY SPENT, AND SO I'VE, GOT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CHAIR FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE TO EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE STAFFING AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OPTIONS FOR THE BAY COUNTY TPO, WITH THE GOAL OF RECEIVING A FINAL REPORT FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, AND WITH THE INTENTION OF TERMINATING THE CRC STAFFING AGREEMENT BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. THE CRC JUST STAFFS AND HANDLES THE ADMIN SIDE OF THIS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. AND THEY THEY DO THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS. I'M NOT WANTING US TO RUSH INTO THIS DECISION, BUT I WANT US TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE, ALTHOUGH WE'VE NOT DISCUSSED THIS INDIVIDUALLY, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THEY WERE HANDLING THE MONEY WITH WHAT I'VE GOT TO ASSUME, JUST FROM KNOWING YOU ALL AND ALL OUR PRIOR VOTES, THAT I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT DOING THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IS THIS A REQUEST TO THE TPO TO COMMIT TO, TO CREATE A COMMITTEE OR IS IT A COUNTY STAFF COMMITTEE? ULTIMATELY, THAT AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE TPO AND THE CRC, NOT BETWEEN. I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THE TPO TO DO THIS, BUT I'M ASKING THAT THE COUNTY [00:30:03] ASK THE TPO TO PUT TOGETHER THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. OKAY, THERE'S ALREADY A SUBCOMMITTEE IN THE TPO, WHICH I SIT ON, MAYBE IT'S THE TPO. COULD TASK THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WITH THIS WORK THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. MAYBE IT'S A POSSIBILITY. WELL, THE BOARD COULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION ASKING THE TPO TO. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE COULD BRING A WE COULD BRING A RESOLUTION BACK TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING THAT THE BOARD WOULD RESOLVE TO REQUEST THAT THE. OKAY. AND THEN THE TPO WOULD MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER THAT COMMITTEE OR ANOTHER COMMITTEE HANDLES IT, BUT IT WOULD BE YOUR DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY TO THE TPO TO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY ANYTHING ELSE? THAT THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. LET'S DO. WHAT? HAVE YOU MADE A MOTION? RIGHT. YOU WANT TO? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON IT? THAT WE'RE GOING TO. WELL WE'RE GOING. OKAY, WELL, TWO THINGS. YES, WE CAN VOTE ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ASK, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE RESOLUTION TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING AT THAT POINT IN TIME. SO MAYBE WE WAIT UNTIL THE RESOLUTION IS FORWARD AND WE HAVE A MORE FULLER CONVERSATION OF IT. SURE. AND I'M JUST ASKING, DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO ASK STAFF TO BRING A RESOLUTION TO US? OR WE JUST GOOD TO GO WITH IT LIKE IT IS? OH I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH. COMMISSIONER CARROLL IS ON MUTE. IF YOU COULD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ROBERT. ARE YOU STILL THERE? YOU MAY HAVE GONE. I THINK I HEARD HIM HANGING UP. YEAH. I DIDN'T OH. I'M HERE. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONE. NO, SIR. I WANTED TO HEAR IT ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TO COMMISSIONER, PIECES. QUESTION. YOU COULD YOU COULD VOTE TO DIRECT US TO BRING A RESOLUTION BACK. YOU CAN DO IT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AS WELL. WHATEVER THE BOARD'S OPTION IS. BUT THE ACTUAL CONTROLLING DOCUMENT THAT YOU WOULD VOTE ON TO GO FORWARD TO THE TPO WOULD BE THAT RESOLUTION THAT WOULD COME BACK AT NEXT MEETING. SO WHATEVER THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS, I JUST DIDN'T WANT US TO MOVE ON. IF WE NEEDED TO VOTE, VOTE TO DO THAT. OKAY I GUESS YOU DID. YOU WERE ABLE TO HEAR ALL THAT, ROBERT. I MISSED THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WAS MUTED, SO. OH, OKAY. IT WAS OKAY, DOUG, TO SUMMARIZE, ROBERT, WITH WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT CRC EVENT AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT, AND JUST I DON'T BELIEVE BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, EVEN THOUGH THEY JUSTIFY BY SAYING THEY FOLLOWED POLICY. I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR US AS THE AS THE COUNTY BOARD TO REQUEST THE TPO, THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER A SUBCOMMITTEE TO, TO EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE STAFFING AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS FOR THE TPO BECAUSE IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR US TO USE THE CRC RIGHT NOW. WE CONTRACT WITH THEM. BUT JUST TO LOOK AT ARE THERE OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR THIS TO BE ABLE TO, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS? THANK YOU SIR. AND BOB AND STAFF ARE GOING TO BRING A RESOLUTION TO US AT AN UPCOMING MEETING. TO THAT END. I MEAN, I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT. IF WE WANT TO DO CONSENSUS, I'M GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK. I DON'T KNOW IF PROBABLY WHAT DOES. OKAY I MEAN, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE TO THE TPO ASKING THE TPO TO, EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF HAVING THE TPO STAFFED. IT'S CURRENTLY STAFFED BY CRC, LET'S ASK THE TPO TO LOOK AT OTHER METHODS TO MAKE STAFFING THE TPO. THIS IS THE TPO COMMITTEE THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S ALREADY PUT TOGETHER OR THE TPO. SO TO COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN HAM'S COMMENTS, THERE'S AN EXISTING COMMITTEE THAT HE SITS ON AT THE TPO THAT THE TPO COULD CHOOSE TO ASSIGN THIS TASK TO, OR THE TPO COULD, IN ITS OWN, AT ITS OWN DIRECTION, CREATE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND IN THAT THEY WOULD JUST COME BACK TO US, WITH ALTERNATIVES AND, GIVE US THE FULL LAYOUT OF, OF WHAT COULD BE DONE OR COULD BE NOT BE DONE. YES, SIR. I THINK, I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THE TPO, AT THE TPO AND THE TPO WOULD, WOULD MAKE THE DECISION TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE EXISTING CONTRACT AT GO WITH ANOTHER CONTRACTOR OR WHATEVER OTHER OPTIONS THEY LOOK. BUT THIS, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE TPOS UMBRELLA. THIS IS JUST THE BOARD SAYING TO THE TPO YOU WOULD LIKE [00:35:01] TO CONSIDER SOME OTHER OPTION TO, TO PROVIDE STAFFING OTHER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE. OKAY PURELY AT THE TPO DISCRETION, SURE. AS TO WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT THAT CLEAR THAT ONE UP. GOOD OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NOW, MR. DOZIER, YES, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS THE FIRST RESPONDERS RECOGNITION FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITY STAFF. IN PAST STORMS, ESPECIALLY MICHAEL, REALLY STANDS OUT TO ME. THE WORK THAT THEY DID, AS A FIRST RESPONDER, THEY WERE THEY WERE. A LOT OF THEM LEFT THEIR HOMES, DIRECTLY AFTER THE STORM. IF THEY COULD GET OUT AT ALL, AND THEY'RE OUT DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE PUBLIC. AND THEY WERE A LOT OF THEM WERE FIRST ON THE SCENE, TRYING TO CLEAR THE ROADS, TRYING TO TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT UTILITIES. AND SO MY HAT'S OFF TO THEM, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING THEM AS A AS A FRONTLINE FIRST RESPONDER. AND THEY THEY FIT RIGHT IN THERE WITH THE OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS FOR THE WORK. THEY DO A LOT OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WOULD WOULD HINDER US IF, IF THEY WEREN'T OUT DOING THE WORK IMMEDIATELY. THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD REALLY, REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME AND REALLY SUFFER. SO, JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT I APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE BEING RECOGNIZED AS THAT. AND PUTTING IN THE SAME CATEGORY OF, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT ROBERT, SINCE I CUT YOU OFF EARLIER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. OKAY I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUD. I THOUGHT YOU HAD HUNG UP ON US. OKAY. THE I GUESS THE EVENT THAT YOU MENTIONED, DOUG, IS, SOMETHING THAT, I'VE TOOK INTEREST IN, IN MYSELF. SO I WENT TO ONE OF THEIR, BOARD MEETINGS IN DEFUNIAK SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, IT WAS ABOUT A THREE HOUR LONG MEETING, BUT I THINK THE I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. THE IN THE SENSE THAT, THEIR DEFENSE, IF YOU CALL IT, WAS THAT THEY USED PROCUREMENT METHODS EVEN THOUGH THEY DID THEIRS WAS EXTREME SPENDING. I THOUGHT COMPARED TO, THESE SAME EVENTS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT WENT FROM 70,000 TO ABOUT 200,000. AND, BUT ANYWAY, SO, NO, I THINK I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK THERE MYSELF. BECAUSE I DID GO AND LISTEN TO THAT. I, YOU KNOW, I DROVE OVER THERE AND SPENT A HALF A DAY OR SO DOING IT, BUT I CAN CONCUR WITH YOU ON THAT FOR SURE. AND FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT THAT WAS THE KEY FOR ME THAT IT WAS OVER 200,000 THEY SPENT WHEN THE HISTORICAL AVERAGE WAS 70, AND THEN THEIR JUSTIFICATION WAS, WELL, WE FOLLOWED PROCEDURE . YEAH, THAT TO ME IS IMMATERIAL . YOU MIGHT HAVE FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURE, BUT YOU STILL WERE WASTEFUL WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, AND THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE, YEAH, YEAH. AND WHEN IT CAME, WHEN IT CAME TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE END. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I, WHAT I SAID WAS THE, WHAT WAS CHOSEN TO RUN THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT METHOD WAS, IS THE IS THE ISSUE, NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU DID IT IN A, MALFEASANCE WAY. IT WAS JUST THE CHOICE IS MADE, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE, HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYS THE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.