[CALL TO ORDER]
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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ORDER. IT'S 9 A.M.
YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'A.
THIS MORNING. INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR DANIEL CHERRY. JENKS AVENUE, CHURCH OF CHRIST.
AND I'LL BE LEADING IN THE PLEDGE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND. LET'S PRAY TOGETHER. OUR GOD AND OUR CREATOR. THANK YOU FOR A NEW DAY WITH NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO HONOR YOU WITH OUR LIVES AND OUR WORK, OUR FAMILIES AND OUR WORDS. WITH SO MUCH DIVISION AND ANGER SWIRLING AROUND US, GRANT US A SPIRIT AND A RESOLVE FOR PEACE AND UNITY. HELP US REMEMBER THAT WE ARE BUT STEWARDS OF YOUR CREATION, YOUR PEOPLE, ASSETS THAT ARE ULTIMATELY YOURS. I PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS CHAMBER TODAY, THOSE WHO HAVE GRIEVANCES AND THOSE WHO WIL THERE BE A MUTUAL DESIRE FOR RESOLUTION. BE WITH THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION. WATCH OVER THEIR FAMILIES AND BLESS THEM IN THIS WORK OF SERVICE TO OUR BEAUTIFUL BAY COUNTY. AND I PRAY FOR THE CITIZENS AND GUESTS TO OUR COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY DECISIONS MADE HERE TODAY. BLESS THEM AS THEY GO ABOUT THEIR WORK, AS THEY BUILD HOMES AND FAMILIES AND MARRIAGES, AS THEY GO TO SCHOOL, AS OUR CHILDREN INTERACT WITH THIS COMPLEX WORLD AND LEARN FROM IT, AS PEOPLE CONTEMPLATE THE BIG QUESTIONS OF LIFE, MAY THEY FIND REST IN YOUR ARMS IN YOUR GRACE AND TRUTH. BE WITH OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL AND FIRST RESPONDERS, WITH OUR TEACHERS AND MEDICAL WORKERS, WITH THOSE IN SERVICE INDUSTRIES WHO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES. FOR ALL THOSE WHO HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITY RUNNING AND MOVING FORWARD. BE PRESENT IN OUR LIVES. GUIDE US IN OUR DECISIONS, AND GIVE US WISDOM, COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING, AND PEACE IN OUR INTERACTION WITH OTHERS. I PRAY ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, JESUS, THE CHRIST, OUR SAVIOR, MEDIATOR AND LORD. AMEN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA THIS
[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]
MORNING, NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE FROM LEGAL? OKAY. GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SO MOVED. SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES,
[PRESENTATIONS]
MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. THIS MORNING WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION FOR THE CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS PROCLAMATION. COMMISSIONER MOORE WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS ONE. HAVE TIM FORREST. TOM? OKAY. I'M SORRY. JUNE AND RICH BOWMAN, ON BEHALF OF THE RACHEL'S BAGS OF LOVE. YES, SIR. Y'ALL COME ON DOWN. DON'T BE SHY. DON'T YOU HOLD UP.YOU LOOK MORE TRUSTWORTHY. OH. THAT'S COOL. ALL RIGHT, SO READ THIS FOR EVERYONE. I'LL GO OVER HERE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO WHEREAS DURING CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, WE HONOR THE COURAGE, STRENGTH AND OPTIMISM OF THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES FIGHTING THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH BY DISEASE FOR CHILDREN, CANCER. AND WHEREAS CANCER IS THE NUMBER ONE DISEASE KILLER OF CHILDREN IN THE UNITED STATES. YET CHILDHOOD CANCER RESEARCH IS SEVERELY UNDERFUNDE.
ONLY 4% OF FUNDING IS ALLOCATED TO THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH FOR CHILDREN, AND WHEREAS INCREASED RESEARCH IN THE FIELD OF CHILDHOOD CANCER WILL ALLOW FOR BETTER TREATMENT OPTIONS, SAFER QUALITY THERAPIES AND ULTIMATELY A CURE FOR THIS DEADLY DISEASE. AND WHEREAS NORTHWEST FLORIDA REPORTS AN AVERAGE OF 50 LOCAL CHILDREN NEWLY DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER EACH YEAR, AND WHEREAS BAY COUNTY CHILDREN BAY COUNTY CHILDREN'S HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS A PRIORITY FOR ALL, WE REDEDICATE OURSELVES TO ENSURING THAT EVERY CHILD CAN ENJOY A LONG, HEALTHY, AND FULFILLING LIFE NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED, BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMS THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 2024 AS CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND URGE YOU TO SPREAD THE WORD TO OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANY COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA? NO. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE FLOOR AND GO INTO CONSENT. MR. MICHAEL. YES, SIR. MR. COMMISSIONER OR MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING UNDER THE CLERK OF COURT. ITEM ONE, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. CHECK REGISTER. INVESTMENT REPORTS DAS RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS. COLLABORATIVE SERVICES ITEM TWO TRANSIT OPERATOR CONTRACT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO BOARD AUTHORIZE STAFF TO NEGOTIATE TRANSIT OPERATOR CONTRACT 2428 WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM FIRST TRANSIT, INC. IN THE EVENT, AN AGREEMENT CANNOT BE MADE, AUTHORIZE STAFF TO REISSUE THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR A TRANSIT OPERATOR UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM THREE BILTMORE DRIVE LITIGATION SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH ASHLEY VALENTI AND TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH AND MUTUAL RELEASE WITH CAROLYN COLLIER AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME UNDER GENERAL SERVICES. ITEM FOUR RATIFY EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 850 EL CRAWLER DOZER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. BOARD. RATIFY THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF AN 850 EL CRAWLER DOZER PURCHASED UNDER SOURCEWELL PURCHASING CONTRACT. 011723 DASH JDC FOR THE COST OF $468,943.30 UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES ITEM FIVE FIRE SERVICES AND EMS PAY TABLE.STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO BOARD APPROVE THE ADOPTION OF A NEW PAY TABLE THAT COMBINES FIRE SERVICES AND EMS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM SIX FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT EASEMENTS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACCEPT AND APPROVE GRANTING EASEMENTS TO FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, INC, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE EASEMENT CONVEYANCES AND RECORD WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ITEM SEVEN NASSAU STREET MAINTENANCE CLAIM ACCEPTANCE DASH RECOMMENDATIONS OF BOARD. ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE MAINTENANCE CLAIM OF NASSAU STREET AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE MAINTENANCE CLAIM MAP AND RECORD WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ITEM EIGHT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AGREEMENTS FOR STARR AND TITUS ROAD REALIGNMENT PROJECTS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE OFF SYSTEM AND ROAD CLOSURE AGREEMENTS WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE SR 75 AT STARR AVENUE AND TITUS ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENTS AND RESOLUTIONS AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER THE TDC. ITEM NINE TDC PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS REQUEST.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THE BOARD AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND BAY COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES THROUGH THE DISBURSEMENT OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX FUNDS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENDITURES RELATING TO INCREASED TOURISM ON PANAMA CITY BEACH UNDER UTILITY SERVICES. ITEM TEN CLARIFIER INSTALLATION CONTRACT AWARD.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARDED THE INSTALLATION OF TWO CLARIFIERS TO VEVO USA, LLC, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $797,000 AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM 11 WASTEWATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM MITIGATION PROJECT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD AWARD CONTRACT 2452 WASTEWATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM MITIGATION PROJECT TO MARSHALL BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,391,764.80, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING. AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE GOT MOTIONS AND SECONDS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. WE'LL GO. WE HAVE NOTHING FOR REGULAR AGENDA. WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC
[Community Development]
HEARING. FIRST ONE WE HAVE WILL BE NUMBER 12 LPT, A20240148. MR. WAYNE PORTER. IT'S JUST THIS ONE. DON, IS THIS A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING? THE SAME THING AS FAR AS I KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON AUGUST 20TH, 2024, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS FROM STAFF TO REVISE THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE REQUIRES THAT COMMUNITIES EVALUATE THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS EVERY SEVEN YEARS. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOMMENDS THE REVISIONS PROVIDED IN THE ENCLOSED DOCUMENTS. THE LAST EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT OR ERE, WAS FINALIZED IN 2016.FOR THIS YEAR, BAY PLANNING AND ZONING HAS COORDINATED WITH PUBLIC WORKS, GENERAL SERVICES, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UTILITY SERVICES, HOUSING DIVISION AND MANY OTHER SOURCES TO PROVIDE
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AMENDMENTS TO REVISE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES, ADDRESS OUTDATED OR REDUNDANT LANGUAGE, AND UPDATE REFERENCES TO STATE LAWS AND CODES. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THESE REVISIONS INCLUDE AMENDING SUBCHAPTERS IN CHAPTER FIVE TO ADDRESS UPDATES AND INFRASTRUCTURE REGULATIONS.UPDATING THE LOCAL AND ARTERIAL ROAD INVENTORY, UPDATES TO THE WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES, WORK PLAN UPDATES TO CHAPTER EIGHT TO INCLUDE MORE DETAILED AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES, AND AN UPDATE TO THE COUNTY'S POPULATION PROJECTIONS. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND TRANSMIT THE PROPOSED PLAN.
AMENDMENTS TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. THE FTC WILL REVIEW AND PROVIDE COMMENTS. STAFF ANTICIPATES FINAL BOARD ADOPTION IN JANUARY OF 2025. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ISSUE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A FEW. OKAY, MAYBE JUST SOME OF IT JUST TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, I'VE GOTTEN A FEW CALLS ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS IN HERE, SO I DON'T I'VE GOT THEM.
LIKE CHAPTER THREE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS. IT STRUCK OUT YEAR ROUND. PERMANENT RESIDENT SHOULD BE LOCATED IN THIS AREA. DID WE EVER REALLY. WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE EVER ACTUALLY DID? WOULDN'T ALLOW RESIDENTIAL IN AREAS LIKE THIS? WAS IT EVER A REAL RESTRICTION OR JUST A WHICH WE'RE JUST CLEANING UP? I MEAN, UNDER SEASONAL RESORT. CHAPTER THREE. OH I SEE. OKAY SO IN THE SEASONAL RESORT LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT THE CURRENT POLICY WAS THAT YEAR ROUND, RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT RESIDE THERE. HOWEVER, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY TO MONITOR THAT. IF SOMEONE DEVELOPS PROPERTY, BUILDS A HOME, THERE, THERE'S NO WAY FOR STAFF TO MONITOR WHETHER SOMEONE IS LIVING THERE YEAR ROUND OR USING IT AS A SEASONAL RENTAL. IT WAS JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE MIXED IN WITH THOSE AREAS. CORRECT. IF THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT. SO THAT'S GOOD. IT'S MORE OF A REFLECTION OF WHAT'S BEEN OCCURRING. RIGHT. TO ADD TO THAT, I THINK WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT BAY POINT, PART OF THAT CHANGE, A PORTION OF THAT WAS SEASONAL RESORT, AND THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE IT A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND SO THEREFORE THEY'D HAVE TO DO A ZONING CHANGE. SO THIS ALLOWS THEM TO DEVELOP. YEAH. YEAH. UNDER, CHAPTER THREE AGAIN, POLICY THREE POINT 10.2, IT STRUCK OUT THAT, THE SCHOOLS MAY IMPOSE THAT ANY EXISTING SCHOOLS THAT ARE GOING TO EXPAND IT STRUCK OUT THAT WE COULD IMPOSE REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS. SO THE ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP IS, I THINK IN ONE OF OUR TPO MEETINGS, THEY TALKED ABOUT A SCHOOL THAT EXPANDED AND THEY RAN OUT OF PARKING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD, MAYBE THINK ABOUT MAKING SURE IF THEY ARE EXPANDING, THEN THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE EXPANSION BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S TURNED INTO A PROBLEM. THE SCHOOLS HAVING TO PARK AT THE CHURCH AND ALL THAT. SO I JUST BRING IT UP FOR JUST CONVERSATION AND MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD LATER ON PARKING FOR THAT. SO UNDER STILL UNDER CHAPTER. CHAPTER THREE. BEST DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES. SO IT'S WE STRIKE OUT DOING THE RIGHT THING, MAKING MONEY AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH WAS KIND OF WEIRD TO BEGIN WITH, BUT IT SAYS MOST CURRENT CONCEPTS. SO WHERE WHERE DO THE CONCEPTS. I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE DO WE FIND SUCH A MOST CURRENT CONCEPT WHEN WE'RE, PROMOTING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT FOLKS CAN GO TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD IS A QUALITY DEVELOPMEN? AND I'M NOT I'M NOT AWARE OF A DIRECT SOURCE, BUT THAT THAT INFORMATION I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. I THINK THE IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS, TO REMOVE THIS OUTDATED, PUBLICATION, AND RELY MORE ON WHAT THE ACCEPTED BEST MANAGEMENTS WERE. I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO THAT, WE MIGHT NEED TO SHOW SOMEBODY WHERE IT IS SO THEY CAN BEFORE THEY BRING IT UP. DON'T GO TO A LOT OF TROUBLE TO BRING UP A NEW WHOLE NEW PLAN OR A NEW SUBDIVISION.
AND THEN THEY COME UP HERE AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S QUALITY OR I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO LET PEOPLE GO TO LOOK AT IT. UNDER CHAPTER FOUR, TRANSPORTATION. SO WE'VE
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STRUCK OUT THE TPO AND THE FDOT WILL HAVE, PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CORRIDOR, TALKING ABOUT THE HATHAWAY CORRIDOR. SO, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, THEY WERE STILL DOING THE MAINTENANCE IN THAT CORRIDOR, LIKE THE LIGHTS. YOU KNOW, WE TOOK SO LONG TO GET THE LIGHTS FIXED AND ALL THAT. AFTER THE STORM. SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT ARE WE TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING, THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE? I'M, I'M, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ADDED ANYTHING WHEN WE STRUCK THAT OUT. WHICH POLICY ARE YOU LOOKING AT, UNDER CHAPTER FOUR, TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT. AND IT'S THE POLICY FOUR POINT, 8.3 HATHAWAY CORRIDOR. JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT STRIKING OUT SOMETHING AND PUTTING MAINTENANCE ON THE COUNTY THAT PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE SHOULD STAY ON THAT TPO AND FDOT. SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THIS WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD HAVE TO I WOULD HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THEM ON WHAT WE CAN SEE. UNDER CHAPTER FOUR, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, FEASIBILITY OF DEVELOPING THE TROLLEY SYSTEM TO SERVE THE BEACH AND THE EXIT ACCESS POINTS THERE UNDER PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. SO JUST IN SOME OF THESE THINGS, I'M JUST BRINGING UP SO WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT THEM, MAYBE IF WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING MORE TO THIS. I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE TO DO IT AT THIS POINT. BUT IF THEY TAKE AWAY THE TROLLEY LANES AT THE BEACH AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEM, WOULD WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE IN THIS? IN THIS, IN THIS POLICY? I'M NOT SURE. JUST BRINGING IT UP FOR CONVERSATION AND THEY THEY WERE DISCUSSING DOING DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THAT TROLLEY LANE. SO THIS ONE, IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN IT, I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I'VE HAD SOME FOLKS CALL ME ABOUT CHAPTER FIVE, POLICY FIVE, C .5.4. DEVELOPERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OFF SITE UPGRADE COUNTY WATER FACILITIES THAT MAY REQUIRE TO SERVE THEIR DEVELOPMENT CAN. CAN YOU JUST RUN THROUGH THAT AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE, FROM TIME TO TIME, WHAT HAPPENS, COMMISSIONERS, IS THESE DEVELOPMENTS DRIVE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS OFF SITE. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF THAT, NOT THE EXISTING RATEPAYERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE GOING IN RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND UTILITIES TO SERVE THEM. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE OFF, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ON OR WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S THE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED TO GET THE UTILITIES FROM POINT A TO THE DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE. AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAVE A STORM WATER SITUATION AND SOMEBODY'S GOT TO MOVE THEIR STORM WATER OFF THEIR PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LARGER PIPE THAN IT WOULD, TO DO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SHARING THE COST OF THE LARGER PIPE. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WHAT THAT IS.
UNDER CHAPTER FIVE, INFRASTRUCTURE GENERAL STRATEGY, IT TALKS ABOUT UNIVERSAL GARBAGE COLLECTION. AND WE'VE WE'VE, STRUCK OUT, SERVICES AND FRANCHISE AREAS AND PUT IN FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY. SO I'M NOT SURE. DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING TOWARDS I DON'T KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONE. I'M SORRY. SO UNIVERSAL COLLECTION HAS BEEN A SUBJECT THAT'S COME UP BEFORE THIS BOARD A NUMBER OF TIMES. AND THE BOARD TO THIS POINT IS, HAS EXPRESSED, HAS EXPRESSED NO DESIRE IN MANDATING THAT, RESIDENTS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA HAVE TO HAVE, GARBAGE COLLECTION. SO I THINK THIS JUST IS ANOTHER REFLECTION OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. IT DOESN'T MAKE US MAKE ANY
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SENSE FOR US TO REQUIRE SOMETHING IN THE COMP PLAN THAT THE BOARD HAS. IS IT REQUIRING THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT. NO, MA'AM. SO WE'RE NOT. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE JUST WANT TO MAKE PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT THAT THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT'S WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THE MANDATORY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ONE THING, IF WE CAN CLARIFY WHY WE ARE, TALKING ABOUT UNDER. SORRY CHAPTER EIGHT HOUSING ELEMENT UNDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICY 8.71, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORK WORKFORCE HOUSING. AS AS I'M READING IT, IT CAN GO INTO A RESIDENTIAL, AREA AND THERE'S SOME LAW THAT'S BRINGING THAT FORWARD. AND CAN WE JUST CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT WHAT THAT IS ABOUT? YES, MA'AM. AND, I THINK TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AGAIN PREEMPTED SOME LOCAL, LOCAL AUTHORITY ON REGULATING THINGS SUCH AS WORKFORCE HOUSING AND SO THIS IS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THAT NEW NEW LEGISLATION THAT BASICALLY SAYS THE STATE WILL CAN ULTIMATELY WILL CONTROL WHERE WORKFORCE HOUSING CAN GO IN COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES CANNOT STOP IT FROM GOING INTO THOSE AREAS. SO THIS BRINGS OUR OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN LINE WITH THAT, THAT NEW LAW. EXACTLY. THANKS FOR JUST PUTTING THAT GETTING THAT OUT THERE, THE PART ABOUT THE GROUP AND FOSTER HOMES ARE PERMITTED, IN THAT AREA. I THINK THEY ALREADY ARE. AREN'T THEY? PERMITTED THE GROUP GROUP HOMES AND FOSTER CARE FACILITIES OR. I THINK THEY ALREADY ARE, BUT JUST IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE IT WASN'T WRITTEN OUT ANYWHERE THAT THE CURRENTLY PERMITTED IN, RESIDENTIAL AREAS UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS. BUT THE LANGUAGE WAS NEVER IN OUR COMP PLAN. SO I THINK THIS IS JUST ADDING IT TO THE COMP PLAN. THAT'S I FELT THAT IT WAS ALREADY, ABLE TO BE DONE. THE LAST THING I HAVE IS, UNDER CHAPTER EIGHT, OBJECTIVE POLICY 8.17.5. THE BOARD SHALL CONSIDER ADOPTION OF COMMERCIAL LINKAGE FEES. CAN YOU CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE ARE, OR SOMEBODY THAT'S IN RELATION TO HOUSING? CORRECT, IT IS. SO IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING AN IMPACT FEE STUDY. AND THE BOARD GAVE US DIRECTION TO EXAMINE LINKAGE FEES AS A METHOD OF GENERATING REVENUE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE HOUSING PROGRAM. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS JUST PUTS THAT INTO THE COMP PLAN, YOU WILL PROBABLY I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THOSE STUDIES. PROBABLY EARLY FALL NOVEMBER TIME FRAME, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT IMPACT FEES, BUT LINKAGE FEES IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WAS ON THE LIST THAT WE WERE TASKED TO GO EXPLORE AND EXAMINE. SO THIS JUST PUTS IN THE COMP PLAN THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, SHOULD THE BOARD CHOOSE TO EXPAND THAT AND IT THAT WAY, AT THAT POINT IT WOULD GO DIRECTLY INTO HOUSING. THAT IS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE LINKAGE FEES. YES. YOU WOULD COLLECT THOSE. IT'S A TYPE OF IMPACT FEE. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT ANIMAL IF YOU WILL.BUT THE INTENT WOULD BE FOR THE REVENUE GENERATED FROM THAT TO GO SPECIFICALLY INTO THE HOUSING PROGRAM, TO PAY FOR PAY FOR HOUSING, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOT ON THE RECORD, TOO. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TAKE UP SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. AND IF I CAN REVISIT THE HATHAWAY CORRIDOR QUESTION, THAT ORIGINALLY WAS IN THE PLAN BACK WHEN, THE NEW HATHAWAY BRIDGE AND THE FLYOVER AND ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE CONTEMPLATED IN THAT CORRIDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY WAS SAYING IT WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT NOW, SINCE THE BRIDGE IS DONE. MOST OF THE FLYOVER PROJECT IS DONE. THERE'S STILL SEVERAL OTHER PHASES OF THAT, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE COUNTY WILL BE TAKING ON ANY OTHER MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILIT. THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF ANECDOTALLY, BETWEEN CITY OF PANAMA CITY AND FDOT ABOUT THAT CORRIDOR FROM THE HATHAWAY BRIDGE THROUGH PANAMA CITY, AND THERE MAY BE SOME AGREEMENTS IN THE FUTURE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND THE STATE COME TOGETHER ON WHO'S GOING TO DO MAINTENANC. AND SO IT'S JUST, AGAIN, REDUNDANT IN OUR IN OUR PLAN TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE STATE'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE CRAZY. YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES THE LIGHTS UP TO RIGHT HERE, AND THEN D.O.T. DOES THE LIGHTS OVER HERE IN PANAMA CITY BEACH DOES THEM. AND WHEN I WAS TRYING TO PUSH TO GET THE LIGHT, GET THE LIGHTS FIXED, I WAS LIKE, NOPE, IT'S NOT OURS. IT'S, YOU KNOW. SO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. MY COMMENT. CHAIRMAN, BACK, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UNIVERSAL GARBAGE, YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, SOME TIME BACK, THERE WAS INTEREST SHOWN FOR UNIVERSAL GARBAGE, YOU KNOW, BY, BY SOME. AND SO THAT WAS
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EXPLORED AND LOOKED AT AS FAR AS FOR THE BEACH ITSELF. NOT NOT ON THE, EASTWARD SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, BUT JUST THE BEACHES AREA, AND THEY LOOKED AT SOME TYPE OF METHODOLOGY TO HOW, HOW WOULD THEY HANDLE THAT AND HOW WOULD THEY, WOULD THEY DO IT IN GRIDS? WOULD THEY DO IT? THEY LOOKED AT ALL KIND OF THINGS AND OF COURSE JUST AND THEN BACKED OFF OF IT BECAUSE AT THAT TIME IT JUST WASN'T COMING TOGETHER. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IF, IF THAT WAS APPROACHED AGAIN RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT MANDATORY GARBAGE COLLECTION, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF THE BEACH SHOWED INTEREST IN IT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE A DECISION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE BEACH IF THE IF THE BEACH WANTED TO, TO ADDRESS THAT AND PUT IT IN SOME HAVE SOME TYPE OF METHODOLOGY TO HANDLE THAT, FOR THE BEACHES AREA THEN, THEN THAT WOULD JUST BE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND THE BEACH BEACH COMMISSION. AND SO IT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE OUT THERE.BUT IT'D BE A DECISION BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES TO DO THAT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. A COUPLE ITEMS, MINE IS IN CHAPTER THREE IN THE UNDER INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S SECTION THREE. DASH 14 IS THE PAGE. THEN THE PAST YEAR OR SO, WE HAD THE SILO ISSUE COME UP IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. AND SO AT A MEETING AFTERWARDS, WE DECIDED TO DECREASE THE HEIGHT FROM 230 TO 50. BUT THEY COULD GO HIGHER IF THEY GOT A CONDITIONAL USE. BUT IN HERE IT STILL REFERS TO THE 230. DO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT TO REFLECT IT BEING AS 50 WITH A CONDITIONAL USE? NO, BECAUSE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT IS STILL 230. HOWEVER, THE LDR SPECIFIES THAT YOU CAN'T REACH THAT HEIGHT WITHOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO THAT'S COVERED IN THE LDR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERED THERE. RIGHT. WE DON'T NEED THAT TO COME BACK. THE OTHER ONE I HAVE FOUND IS IN THE WATER FACILITIES. WORK PLAN, PAGE NINE OF THAT WORK PLAN. IT'S ACTUALLY PAGE 75. IN OUR DOCUMENT, JUST THE HEADING OF THE TABLE, I THINK NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. IT REFERS TO 2005 TO 2030. IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE 2020 TO 2045. I'M ASSUMING. TALKS ABOUT THE PEAK SEASONAL AND PERMANENT POPULATIONS. THE TABLE IS UPDATED. JUST THE HEADING OF THE TABLE. I UNDERSTAND. I APOLOGIZE LITTLE DETAILS. I HAVE ONE MORE AND THEN ONE LAST ONE. DO WE HAVE ANY LANGUAGE IN HERE OR DO WE NEED ANY LANGUAGE IN ABOUT THE LIVE LOCAL ACT THAT WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE? JUST LIVE LOCAL. THEY CAN BASICALLY PUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PUT IT IN BASICALLY ANY ZONING CATEGORY AT ALL. DOES THAT LANGUAGE NEED TO BE IN HERE AT ALL? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY DIRECTION FROM THE STATE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO UPDATE OUR COMP PLAN TO, TO ADDRESS THAT LANGUAGE. OKAY. IT MAY MAYBE IT DOES COME UP AFTER WE SEND THIS OFF. WHO KNOWS, THEY MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING. THANK YOU SIR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY I HAVE ONE MORE ON POPULATION, THE CHART THAT WE HAVE THAT SHOWS THE POPULATION. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IF THESE NUMBERS SAY, FOR 2030, WE'RE LOOKING AT STILL UNDER 200,000 BASED ON THIS CHART, I HAPPEN TO THINK IT WILL BE MORE THAN THAT, BUT SO IF WE DO HAVE A POPULATION BOOM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO BAY COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE PANHANDLE, WHAT WOULD HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT ADJUSTING THESE, THESE NUMBERS BETWEEN WHAT WE PROJECT TO TALLAHASSEE? BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED. THAT'S HOW THEY BASE THEIR, ANY TYPE OF GRANT MONEY THAT WE GET AND ALL LIKE THAT IS TIED TO MONEY. SO IF WE DID HAVE A LARGE POPULATION, BOOM, HOW WOULD WE ADJUST THESE NUMBERS? STAFF CAN GO BACK AND REEVALUATE REEVALUATE THAT, PART OF THAT CALCULATION. WAS, WE USE WHAT'S CALLED THE BEAR REPORT, WHICH IS A UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA PRODUCT, THAT COMES OUT ANNUALLY WHERE THEY MAKE PREDICTIONS, ACROSS THE STATE FOR DIFFERENT COUNTIES OF THEIR POPULATION. SO WE DID USE THAT AS PART OF OUR COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS, AND IF CERTAINLY IF THERE'S A NEED, WE SENSE THAT THERE'S BEEN A BIG BOOST IN THE, IN THE POPULATION INCREASE. WE NEED TO GO BACK AND EVALUATE THOSE NUMBERS. WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN ADJUST THOSE FIGURES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISH MORE. I KNOW WHAT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY ABOUT THESE HUD APPROVED MODULAR HOMES GOING INTO R1 FOR AS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, WHAT
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THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE A MEMBER OF. BRIAN AND I HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON THAT. IF WE I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP UNDER A COMMENT THAT I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT FOR THE FUTURE TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THIS. IF YOU ALL RECALL WHERE THERE WAS A MODULAR HOME THAT WENT IN, IN COLLEGE POINT AND R1, AND THERE WAS NOTHING TO PROHIBIT THAT. AND WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE BECAUSE IT'S A HUD TYPE, HOME. AND I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THIS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL BETWEEN A MANUFACTURED HOME AND A MODULAR HOME GOT MESHED UNDERNEATH ONE CATEGORY. SO NOW THERE'S NOT EVEN A DISTINCTION IN THE CATEGORIES ANYMORE. BUT THE ISSUE, I THINK, WAS THAT THE MODULAR HOMES, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE BUILT DIFFERENT THAN A MANUFACTURED HOME, THEY'RE BUILT UNDER FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. BUT THEY COME IN ON WHEELS. THEY CAN BE, INSTALLED. THE FOUNDATION CAN BE INSTALLED UP ON BLOCKS. BUT JUST LIKE A MANUFACTURED HOME, THEY'RE BASICALLY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE ESTHETICS THE WAY THEY LOOK. IT'S ONLY THE COMPONENTS OF HOW THEY'RE BUILT. SO FROM THE ROAD YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE. AND THEN THE BUILDING CODE THERE USED TO BE, THEIR REQUIREMENT FOR IT TO BE MOUNTED ONTO A FIXED SLAB. WELL, THAT DISAPPEARED IN THE UPDATES OF JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR IN FPC. SO THAT GOT IT AWAY. THAT GOT IT TO WHERE NOW THESE HOMES CAN BE PUT UP ON BLOCKS. AS LONG AS AN ENGINEER DESIGNS THE FOUNDATION. SO IT GETS US BACK TO HOW DO WE KEEP THE ESTHETICS OF THAT HOUSE LOOKING LIKE OTHER HOMES IN AN R1 SITUATION, IT BECOMES VERY HARD TO DO. AND, AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A MANUFACTURED HOME, BUT IT'S NOT. BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT PROPERTY VALUES, FOLKS WON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD AFFECT THE PROPERTY VALUES OF ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. OF COURSE, ANYBODY THAT HAS AN HOA CAN, IN THEIR BYLAWS CAN GET RID OF THIS ALTOGETHER. THEN THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT. BUT OTHERWISE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF DOING IT. BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO IT WITH ARCHITECTURAL LOOK OF THIS, OF HOW THEY LOOK FROM THE STREET. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE ALL THAT THE BOARD OUGHT TO TRY TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF, AS THINGS PROGRESS FURTHER, THINGS ONLY GET MORE EXPENSIVE.THEY DON'T GET CHEAPER. SO PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THAT. BACK TO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND, AND GOING THIS ROUTE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE OUGHT TO TRY TO PUT IN, PUT OUT IN THE FOREFRONT TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. AND I KNOW WE CAN'T DO THIS OVERNIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY COMPLEX THING BECAUSE OF THE HUD REQUIREMENTS AND FEDERAL MANDATES THAT WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE, BUT OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO TRY TO TACKLE. I AGREE, I KNOW THAT IN THE DEER POINT LAKE AREA SOME TIME BACK, THERE WAS A, IT'S AN R, IT'S AN R1 ZONED AREA, AND THERE WAS A MODULAR HOME PULLED IN TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORS WERE NOT HAPPY WITH IT BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE A MOBILE HOME PULLING IN THERE. AND THEY SET IT UP AND THE ANSWER THEY GOT WAS THAT'S A MODULAR HOME. IT'S ALLOWED IN R1. YEAH, BUT THE ESTHETICS WERE SUCH THAT IT LOOKED LIKE A MANUFACTURED HOME. SO THAT IS AN ISSUE. IF YOU KNOW THAT SOMETHING CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE, IN THE BIG PICTURE, I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT, PEOPLE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT DOES THAT DO NOT HAVE, AN HOA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT GOVERNS THAT. BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. WOULD WE, WOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT LIKE AN ENTIRE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD THAT LOOKS AT THIS, THIS TYPE OF THING, INCLUDING PAINT AND ROOFING AND ALL THAT, OR WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT JUST YEAH, NO MODULAR FROM MY FROM MY MEMORY.
TALKING WITH BRIAN. NO, WE WOULD NOT WANT TO GET INTO ANY KIND OF ARB. WE WOULD NOT THE COUNTY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT. IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, WE CAN MAKE THINGS MORE STRINGENT, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THEM LESS STRINGENT. SO ONE IDEA I HAD WAS TO, IF WE COULD, MAYBE FOR BAY COUNTY, REQUIRE THAT THEY BE PUT ON A FIXED SLAB THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR ESTHETICS JUST BY DESIGN, OTHER COUNTIES, LIKE GULF COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO BUILD WITH TWO BY SIXES. YOU CAN'T BUILD WITH TWO BY FOURS. SO THEY
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MADE THE CODE MORE STRINGENT, BUT WE CAN'T GO LESS. SO THAT WAS ONE. ONE IDEA I HAD WAS TO TRY TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW TO MAKE IT AN ORDINANCE TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE PUT ON A PERMANENT SLAB. THAT COULD BE A STEM WALL, IT COULD BE A MONOLITHIC SLAB. BUT, YOU KNOW, STACKING UP BLOCKS AND SOME OF THEM CAN EVEN BE DRY STACKED AND THEN BOLTED DOWN. IT'S NOT PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, YOU REMOVE THE STRAP AND TAKE YOUR FOOT AND KICK IT OVER. IT'S JUST NOT PERMANENT, SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD THOUGHT OF WAS ON THE THROUGH BUILDING CODE WISE IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SOMETHING MORE STRINGENT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT THAT IN ITSELF WOULD HELP CURE A LOT OF MAYBE NOT ALL, BUT A LOT OF THESE, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THESE FOLKS ARE HAVING WITH THE WAY THEY LOOK. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU GO INSIDE OF THEM, THEY'RE VERY NICE AND THEY'RE BUILT TO FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. BUT FROM THE STREET, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK. ALL THAT KIND OF SAYING WAS WHAT I WAS ALWAYS GETTING TOLD. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A MANUFACTURED HOME. IT'S A MODULAR HOME. AND IT'S A PLAY ON WORDS AND IT'S KIND OF SEMANTICS. AND WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT STUFF. BUT WHEN THEY SHOW UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PEOPLE JUST DON'T THEY DON'T THEY DON'T LIKE THESE THINGS, I MEAN, I CAN I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO IF WE COULD SOMEHOW PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE ON THIS, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY I THINK WE'RE GOING TO THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HIT THEM MORE AND MORE AS OUR POPULATION GROWS. LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER THESE TYPE OF THINGS IN THE FUTURE. AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT THROUGH REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, POSSIBLY. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IN THE BEACHES AREA, SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE, WE DO HAVE SOME REGULATIONS AS FAR AS, MANUFACTURED HOMES GOING IN THERE. AND AND ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S ALREADY ADDRESSED IN THAT AREA. WE STAFF COULD LOOK TO EXTEND THAT TO ALL AREAS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD WANTS US TO DO. BUT I BELIEVE THAT'D BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY. BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO BRING IT UP, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING AND, AND THESE TYPE OF THINGS, BUT, ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT. ANYWAY, THAT WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND WE'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE BOARD. DO WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM.
[County Attorney]
COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHTY. NEXT, WE'LL GO INTO NUMBER 13. LOCAL PROVIDER PARTICIPATION FUND ASSESSMENT. MR. LIEBER. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSION, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL PROVOKE LESS QUESTIONS THAN THE PRIOR ITEM. FOR THE LAST SEVERA.YEARS, WE HAVE ASSESSED HOSPITALS, THROUGH A COOPERATIVE ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM. AND THEN THAT ASSESSMENT WOULD, HELP FUND A, A MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT MATCH. WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO GET A HIGHER, HIGHER REIMBURSEMENT RATE. AND, WE'RE PROPOSING A ASSESSMENT AGAIN THIS YEAR. DOES REQUIRE A HEARING, A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO COMMENTS. OKAY THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR AND WE'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE BOARD. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, THAT MOTION IN MULTIPLE SECONDS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MA'AM. YES MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THEY GO INTO NUMBER 14. ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTION FOR KINGS POINT DREDGING. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSION WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IS HAVE A COMBINED PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FOR THE THIS ITEM IN THE NEXT TWO, WHICH ARE ALL ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR KINGS POINT DREDGING AND STORMWATER SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. NEXT ONE IS FOR PROPERTY ABATEMENT, SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. AND THE THIRD ONE IS FOR STREET LIGHTS, OAKENSHAW ROAD
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IMPROVEMENTS AND WEST TWIN LAKE VEGETATION REMOVAL. SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL THREE COMBINED. AND THEN YOU WOULD VOTE SEPARATELY ON EACH THREE ITEMS. OKAY. ALRIGHTY ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THOSE ITEMS? NOPE.OKAY SO THE FIRST ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THE KINGS POINT DREDGING AND STORMWATER SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE 2014. OKAY. WHAT GET A MOTION TO MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZIER.
YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES MA'AM. NEXT ITEM IS THE PROPERTY ABATEMENT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. THIS IS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CLAIMS WE. COSTS OF ABATING PROPERTY, INSTEAD OF THEM, INSTEAD OF PROPERTY OWNERS HAVING TO PAY IT ALL AT ONCE, IT BECOMES A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AGAINST THEIR PROPERTY. THEY PAY IT OVER SEVERAL YEARS. MOTION TO APPROV.
HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO I DO WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, ON THIS, THAT, FOR HARDSHIP CASES, THEY DO HAVE FIVE YEARS TO PAY. AND SO FOR ANYBODY THAT FALLS UNDER THIS CATEGORY THAT THAT HAS A HARDSHIP, THEY CAN STRETCH IT OUT OVER FIVE YEARS. AND SO I JUST WANTED I THOUGHT THAT WAS WORTH NOTING. AND, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. OKAY I HAVE ONE THING. IF YOU COULD JUST GO BACK TO THE DREDGING FOR ONE QUICK SECOND. DO WE HAVE A TOTAL ON WHAT THAT DREDGING WAS? DID WE EVER COME UP WITH A TOTAL. AND WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS AS SOON AS THEY PAY FOR IT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE RE DREDGED AGAIN. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT NOW, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD SOME BACKGROUND ON ON THAT DREDGING IT SEEMS TO BE COMING UP MORE OFTEN DISCUSSION ABOUT DREDGING IN DIFFERENT AREAS WAS THERE DO WE KNOW IF THERE WAS A TOTAL AMOUNT THAT IT COST TO START OFF WITH? AND THAT NUMBER IS AVAILABLE? I DON'T HAPPEN TO KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. THAT'S GOOD. I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH SOMEBODY ON THAT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WAS GOING TO SAY, WELL, IF YOU GET WITH US AFTER THE MEETING, WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. BUT I WON'T SAY THAT YOU CAN. YOU CAN SAY IT. OKAY. I THINK WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ONE. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. THE THIRD ONE IS, A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO HAVE, STREET LIGHTS. THE COST OF THE STREET LIGHTS ARE, ARE BECOME SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY, WE, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE, IMPROVEMENTS TO PRIVATE ROADS IF THEY'RE NEEDED FOR, EMERGENCY ACCESS, WE DID THAT FOR A PORTION OF OAKENSHAW ROAD, AND, THERE'S SOME SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING. AND THE THIRD ONE IS THE VEGETATION REMOVAL THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS AT TWIN LAKES. OKAY MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST. TO APPROVE. SECOND. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'A. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE GO INTO 17. OUR NUMBER 17 LOCAL PROVIDER PARTICIPATION FUND ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE, THIS ONE, MAKE SURE .
AND CORRECT. YES. THIS ONE, WE ARE CHANGING THE ORDINANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOSPITAL ASSESSMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO. TO ADJUST THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO CLAIM FOR, THE COSTS OF ASSOCIATED WITH, MANAGING THAT PROGRAM IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PROGRAM. SO, THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE THAT IN ADDITION TO, MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT, WE ARE HELPING WITH THE GRADUATE MEDICAL EDUCATION AND WITH, LOW INCOME,
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PATIENTS. AND SO WE'D BE ENTITLED TO A LARGER REIMBURSEMENT RATE, FOR STAFF TIME ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE TO AMEND OUR ORDINANCE TO DO THAT. ANY COMMENTS? NO. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HELLO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, MA'AM. OF COURSE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M JULES CARRIER. I'M HERE REPRESENTING ASCENSION BAY MEDICAL HOSPITAL. MY ADDRESS IS 1208 WEST GREGORY. I LIVE IN PENSACOLA, FLORIDA. JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. AND THE COMMISSION AND ESPECIALLY YOUR STAFF. IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS OF YOU DOING THIS FOR THE HOSPITALS IN YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THE LOW INCOME PATIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU FOR HELPING THOSE THAT WE SERVE, WHICH ARE THE POOR AND VULNERABLE. SO THANK YOU SO MUC. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? AGAIN OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR. SO I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. I KNOW I'VE BEEN A LITTLE CRITICAL OF THIS AND SOME OF THE YEARS PAST, BUT, IT, IT IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GO AFTER THIS MONEY, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL, SO, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR OUR COUNTY AND FOR OUR, OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW SOMETIMES I HAVE TO ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS. SO IF I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT DOING MY JOB, SO YOU HAVE TO, I GUESS. FORGIVE ME FOR THAT, IF YOU WILL. BUT, I FELT LIKE THAT WAS INCUMBENT ON ME FOR ME TO SIT UP HERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS, BUT ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THIS MONEY TO BAY COUNTY AND, AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THE INDIGENT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL WHEN THEY HAVE PROBABLY THE WORST, ARGUABLY THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIFE WHEN THEY SOMETHING HAPPENS, BUT WITH THAT, I'LL. IF NOTHING ELSE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION.SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES,
[Tourist Development Council]
MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE GO TO THE TDC. MR. DAN ROWE, AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 97, DASH. OH ONE. THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.COMMISSIONERS, THE FIRST THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS TO AMEND ORDINANCE 97.01, WHICH APPLIES TO SECTION 12 FOUR 1444. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT OPENS UP THE THIRD CENT OF THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX TRUST FUND FOR ANY ALLOWABLE PURPOSE, INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RHODES? NO. OKAY. THIS IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR. A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE MOTIONS. SECOND, SECOND. OKAY COULDN'T RESIST. CLAIRE. SORRY. WE'LL FLIP A COIN ON THAT ONE, COMMISSIONER.
PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. MOVES US INTO NUMBER 19, TDC PLAN. ORDINANCE MR, THE LEGISLATURE CONTEMPLATES THAT EVERY TWO YEARS THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH ARTICULATES HOW THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX PROCEEDS WILL BE USED OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS WITHIN THE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT, MEXICO BEACH, AND IS PROJECTED TO RAISE $1.925 MILLION. PANAMA CITY SPECIAL DISTRICT WILL BE THREE. 3,750,000. AND ON THE BEACH IT WILL BE $74 MILLION. WITHIN THE BEACH PLAN, THERE'S $5.7 MILLION. THAT WILL BE OUR OUR PUT ASIDE FOR PAYING THE SPORTS PARK BOND, $7.4 MILLION IN PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THIS ALSO ESTABLISHES TWO RESERVES, ONE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REIMBURSEMENT OF $3.5 MILLION. AND THE SECOND RESERVE IS FOR $50 MILLION, WHICH COULD BE USED FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT CAPITAL REPLACEMENT COSTS AT THE PANAMA CITY BEACH SPORTS COMPLEX. AND THEN OUR TOURIST PROMOTION ACTIVITIES DURING TIMES OF CRISIS AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? COMMENTS. I HAVE ONE COMMENT ON ITEM FIVE. PROPOSED USE OF MEXICO BEACH. IT REFERS TO YEARS 20 2425 WHERE SECTION FOUR AND SIX SAY 2526. I ASSUME THAT NEEDS TO MATCH. YES. OKAY. SO THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, I'LL JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE ARE PUTTING SOME MONEY IN RESERVES, AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB PULLING ALL THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
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YES. AGREED YEP, YEP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NOPE. OKAY SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR. HAND IT OVER TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'A. OUR NEXT, WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. OUR FLOOR IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE PERTAINING TO BAY COUNTY. WHETHER YOU THINK IT DOES OR NOT. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK. NO. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR, GO TO COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NO[CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
REPORT, MR. CHAIRMAN. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT. NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT.COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, I GUESS WE'LL START WITH MR. MOORE. DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TODAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE MADE EARLIER ON THE LOCAL PROVIDER PARTICIPATION FUND ASSESSMENT THAT I THINK IS A GOOD PROGRAM. I'M GLAD TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES, IT IT, UNDERSCORES THE AND HELPS THE LOCAL HEALTH PROVIDERS TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE INDIGENT CARE COSTS AND, SO I THINK IT WORKS WELL FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. AND GLAD TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT, JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETING AT FIVE. TONIGHT. AND MIRANDA AND HER TEAM HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT. AND JUST INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT OR LISTEN IN. IF YOU CAN'T COME OUT AND CHECK OUT THE NEW BUDGET. ALL RIGHT, MR. CARROLL. YES, SIR, I WANT TO BRING UP. SO WE SET KIND OF OUR OWN POLICIES.
IN THE PAST, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS. OUR CHAIRMAN HAS A TWO YEAR TERM, AND THAT'S JUST A POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED, I BELIEVE WE HAD YEARS AGO. THERE WAS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO WAS SICK, WASN'T ABLE TO FULFILL HIS YEARS CHAIRMAN. THE NEXT IN LINE TOOK OVER. BUT HE ALSO WANTED TO SERVE HIS OWN YEAR. SO I THINK AT THAT TIME THE BOARD ADOPTED A TWO YEAR POLICY, AND ALSO IN THE PAST, CHANGING LETTERHEADS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS AN EXPENSIVE ORDEAL TO BE TRANSITIONED TO CHAIRMAN. I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING UP I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CHAIRMAN, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF NEW COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE COMING IN THE CURRENT FORMAT. WITH THE TWO YEAR TERM, YOU BASICALLY. SO WE HAVE A BRAND NEW COMMISSIONER.
HE'S SITTING OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE. HE'LL BE COMING IN IF WE KEEP THE SAME CURRENT FORMAT, YOU HAVE A TWO YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO PICK OUR CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIR. THAT INDIVIDUAL WON'T EVEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE CHAIRMAN IN HIS ENTIRE TERM. I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT I KNOW QUITE A FEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT. THEY ALL HAVE ONE YEAR TERMS. DOUG IS GOING TO BE OUR OUR NEXT CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. BUT I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE TREND. AS OUR VICE CHAIR THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST DOUG. THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST ANYONE. I JUST I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SERVE A ONE AND WE CAN PICK THE SAME CHAIRMAN EVERY SINGLE YEAR. YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME CHAIRMAN FOR TEN YEARS. WE'VE HAD COMMISSIONERS UP HERE THAT HAVE HAD NO DESIRE TO BE CHAIRMAN, AND THAT'S OKAY, I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT IT USED TO BE ONE YEAR TERMS. IT GOT CHANGED AND IT'S JUST KIND OF STAYED THE WAY. AND I JUST THINK I'D LIKE TO FLOAT THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, JUST IT OPENS UP OPPORTUNITIES, I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS AND I'VE HAD ONE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CHAIRMAN. I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO BE THE CHAIRMAN EVERY YEAR. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. BUT IT JUST IT OPENS UP. I ENJOYED IT, I LOVED IT, I WOULD DO IT AGAIN. ABSOLUTELY.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU'VE SERVED A YEAR, IT'S A LOT OF COMMITMENT, A LOT OF WORK. YOU'VE HAD LONG TWO YEARS BEING CHAIRMAN. BUT COMMISSIONER DOZIER, HE'S BEEN CHAIRMAN TWICE. AND EVERY TIME HE'S CHAIRMAN, THERE'S A NATURAL DISASTER. SO WE CAN'T HAVE BILL BE CHAIRMAN ANYMORE. SO YOU'RE OUT. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WE CREATE OUR OWN POLICY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DECIDED TO DO. AND I JUST WANTED TO FLOAT THAT OUT THERE. YOU ALL MAY SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE CRAZY. THAT'S OKAY TOO. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE TO SEE IF ANYONE HAD ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON IT. IT JUST LIKE I SAID, IT OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE CHAIRMANSHIP. I, I WAS HERE, A LOT OF THE YEARS THAT I WAS HERE, WE HAD ONE YEAR AND EACH ONE, EACH TIME IT WAS, WE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. IT WASN'T AUTOMATIC. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WE'D HAVE, SOMETIMES WE WOULD HAVE ONE STAY TWO YEARS, OR SOMETIMES WE'D JUST MOVE OUT AT ONE YEAR. SO I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING BACK TO THAT. IT GIVES THE BOARD THE DISCRETION TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND IF THE DESIRE IS TO, TO KEEP THE CHAIRMAN FOR TWO YEARS AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN DO IT IF THE DESIRE IS TO LET'S OKAY, LET'S NOW LET'S SHIFT OVER, LET'S HAVE A ONE YEAR TERM. THAT'S FINE AS WELL. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'M JUST SAYING I'M FINE WITH THAT. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHERE
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THE BOARD WANTS TO GO. OF COURSE, I WON'T BE HERE ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. NO MORE NATIONAL DISASTER. NO MORE NATURAL DISASTER. SO WHO DO WE BLAME IT ON NEXT? I DON'T KNOW, WHOEVER'S THE CHAIRMAN. YEAH ANY OTHER? NO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. IT'S FINE WITH ME.SOMETHING BEFORE YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD, BUT I'D LIKE TO SOME SPECIAL RECOGNITION IF TIME. IF IT'S OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO WEAR MY OTHER HAT AS CROSS COUNTRY COACH AT MOSLEY, WE HAD OUR FIRST MEET OF THE SEASON THIS YEAR AND IT WAS OUT AT MAJETTE PARK AND JUST SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO FROM COMMISSIONER CARROLL STARTED TALKING TO HIM AT THE END OF LAST SEASON. AND THIS EVENT WENT OFF THIS YEAR. I COULDN'T I MEAN, IT WAS PERFECT. WE HAD OVER 30 BOYS TEAMS AND 30 GIRLS TEAMS COME OUT TO MAJETTE PARK AND THE AND THE COUNTY WORKERS OUT THERE FROM CARY PARSONS TO CASEY STEVENS IN PARTICULAR. HE SPENT I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS HE SPENT GROOMING THAT COURSE, MEASURING IT OUT, TAKING IT. IT WAS NOT I MEAN, IT WASN'T EVEN THAT SOMEBODY ASKED HIM TO DO THAT. HE WENT OUT THERE ON IT. I MEAN, COUNTLESS HOURS TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THIS AND MADE THE COUNTY PROUD AND VERY PROUD OUT THERE. THIS WEEKEND, WITH THE NUMBER OF KIDS FROM ALABAMA, GEORGIA, FLORIDA, IT WAS JUST A GREAT EVENT AND THE COUNTY STAFF DID A FANTASTIC JOB. GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, I GUESS. AS FAR AS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I JUST WANTED TO YOUR DISCUSSION. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO? I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY APPETITE FOR IT. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT THE SAME OR, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE IN THE CHAIRMANSHIP OPPORTUNITY OR SO. WELL, YEAH, WE SET OUR OWN POLICY. SO IT'S UP TO US. IT I MEAN, I COULD I COULD SEE THAT. I MEAN, IF YOU DO THE YEAR TERM LIKE YOU SAID, IF THEY WANTED TO STAY ANOTHER YEAR, THEY COULD. YEAH, I KNOW I AM FEEL VERY FORTUNATE THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE THE CHAIR FOR, FOR THE LAST COMING UP FOR TWO YEARS, IT WAS, YOU LEARN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE HERE AND WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE THE CHAIR, AS YOU KNOW, YOU YOU'RE INVOLVED IN A GREAT MANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU DON'T NORMALLY DO. IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT CHAIR. SO, SO GETTING, HAVING THE EXPERIENCE TO DO THAT, IS FOR ME ANYWAY HAS BEEN VERY REWARDING TO BE HERE.
SO TO HAVE OTHERS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE SAME THING, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL, SO IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO DO, I'M, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. IT'S. I MEAN, WE CAN TAKE IT UP AND DO IT LATER OR WHATEVER. HOW Y'ALL WANT TO. SURE. THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT, BUT I KNOW IT'S, YOU KNO, IT'S BEEN REWARDING FOR ME TO BE HERE. LIKE I SAID, IT'S. AND YOU WILL YOU'LL YOU'LL LEARN A LOT DOING THIS. IT'LL BE BAPTISM BY FIRE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT, OKAY. WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I HAVE NOTHING. SO MEETING IS ADJOURNED
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.