Nov 05, 2024 Board of County Commissioners

[CALL TO ORDER]

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EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ORDER. IT'S NOVEMBER THE 6TH OR FIFTH. EXCUSE ME. NOVEMBER. THE FIFTH, 9 A.M. YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THIS MORNING, OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LEFT BY PASTOR KATHY CRIDER. FOUNTAIN, VICTORY TABERNACLE COMMISSIONER CARROLL WILL DO OUR PLEDGE. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? LET US BOW OUR HEADS. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY YOU HAVE GIVEN US. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS.

FATHER. WE PRAY FOR EACH MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AS MANY DECISIONS THEY WILL BE FACED WITH GOD. WE ASK THAT JUST AS KING SOLOMON ASK YOU FOR AN UNDERSTANDING HEART TO JUDGE YOUR PEOPLE, TO DISCERN BETWEEN GOOD AND BAD. YOU GRANTED HIS REQUEST AND GAVE HIM A WISE WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL BLESS EACH ONE THAT HAS COMMITTED THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS TO MAKE BAY COUNTY A BETTER COUNTY, ONE THAT WE WOULD BE GLAD TO PASS ON TO THE NEXT GENERATION. ALSO, ON THIS HISTORIC DAY, ON THE DAY THAT WE AS AMERICANS WILL CHOOSE A NEW LEADER OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN, THAT YOUR WILL BE DONE, THAT NO MATTER WHO WINS, THAT YOU ARE GOD. OUR NEXT PRESIDENT, THAT YOU WILL KEEP THEM SAFE, THAT THEY REMEMBER THAT THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED UPON YOU. FATHER, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE PRECIOUS RIGHT OF LIFE, THE LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE. ONCE AGAIN, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THESE COMMISSIONERS AND THIS MEETING TODAY. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]

YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES,

[PRESENTATIONS]

THANK YOU. HI. I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. MY NAME IS LAUREN FLOYD. I'M WITH COASTAL PROTECTION ENGINEERING. I MAY BE NEW TO A LOT OF YOU, BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON BAY COUNTY PROJECTS PROUDLY FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS. I ACTUALLY AGENCY COORDINATION FOR YOUR BEACH NOURISHMENT PROJECTS IN PANAMA CITY BEACH. SAINT ANDREWS STATE PARK AND NOW MEXICO BEACH. AND I'M REALLY HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, CPE IS NOT THE ONLY FIRM WORKING ON THIS. WE ARE PARTNERED WITH MRD AND I BELIEVE MICHAEL DOMBROWSKI HAS PRESENTED IN THE PAST. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO PICK UP WHERE MICHAEL HAS LEFT OFF AND GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES TO THIS PROJECT. SO QUICK OVERVIEW, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY OF EAST PASS, THE 2001 EXPERIMENTAL PROJECT. WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, THE REOPENING OF EAST PASS PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND THE CURRENT STATUS AND NEXT STEPS. SO THE OVERVIEW, THE SHELL ISLAND WAS OPENED UP BY A HURRICANE IN 1851, FORMING EAST PAST. IT WAS A ENTRANCE CHANNEL IN 1934. FOLLOWING THAT, CONSTRUCTION, EAST PASS GRADUALLY CLOSED BY 1998, AND I WILL BE SHOWING SOME AERIALS TO KIND OF GIVE US AN OVERVIEW. IN 2001, AN EXPERIMENTAL REOPENING PROJECT WAS CONDUCTED, BUT IT QUICKLY CLOSED. BY 2003. AND IN 2020, BAY COUNTY ISSUED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR FIRMS WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY, PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND PERMITTING FOR REOPENING EAST PASS TO A NATURAL NON-ARMOURED CHANNEL. AND I'LL RETURN TO THOSE WORDS A FEW TIMES. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION. THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERARCHING THEME IN THIS STUDY. FUNDING FOR THIS WORK IS SUPPORTED BY A RESTORE ACT GRANT AND A 2021 MRD IN DESTIN WAS AWARDED THE CONTRACT AS A TEAM WITH MY FIRM, CPE. YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ON THIS FIGURE. I'VE MENTIONED THE LOCATION OF THE 2001

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THE BLACK IS THE SHORELINE FROM 19, SORRY, 35. ON THE RIGHT, THE BLACK OUTLINE IS THE SHORELINE FROM 1974. AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS BACK AROUND THE TIME SAINT ANDREW BAY ENTRANCE WAS OPENED. THIS PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THAT YELLOW RECTANGLE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THAT TIME AS WE REACH 1974. ON THE RIGHT, YOU'RE SEEING THE SHORELINE OUTLINED IN BLACK WAS ALREADY ENCROACHING AND CLOSING UP THE PASS. THIS IS ANOTHER SERIES OF AERIALS JUST TO SHOW THE CONTINUED NATURAL CLOSURE OF EAST PASS FROM 1953 TO 1997, WHEN IT WAS FULLY CLOSED. SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT CLOSURE, THE COUNTY AND TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE OBTAINED PERMITS FROM FDEP AND US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR AN EXPERIMENTAL PROJECT.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT'S A ONE TIME PROJECT. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE MAINTENANCE. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT COULDN'T INCLUDE STABILIZATION. SO IT WAS A TEMPORARY PERMIT TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. SO THE CHANNEL WAS CUT IN DECEMBER 2001, AND THE DREDGE MATERIAL WAS PLACED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CHANNEL AS DUNES ON TYNDALL PROPERTY. AGAIN, THAT'S A CLOSE UP OF WHERE THAT EXPERIMENTAL REOPENING WAS LOCATED AS LONG THAT CHANNEL WAS UNSTABLE AND IT QUICKLY AND NATURALLY CLOSED, SO THAT BY 2004 IT WAS COMPLETELY CLOSED AGAIN. WHICH BRINGS US TO THE PROJECT THAT MY TEAM IS WORKING ON NOW. SO IN 2020, LIKE I SAID, BAY COUNTY WAS LOOKING FOR A FIRM TO KIND OF PICK THIS BACK UP AND SEE WHAT'S FEASIBLE, WHAT CAN BE DONE. IS THERE A PROJECT THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO REOPEN EAST PASS? AND AT THAT POINT, COORDINATION HAD ALREADY OCCURRED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND FORMAL COORDINATION WITH AGENCIES. RESEARCH INTO THE ISSUES FACING THIS PROJECT. AND SO BY THE TIME OUR OUR FIRMS JOINED THIS TEAM, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE COUNTY HAD SOME VERY CLEAR OBJECTIVES. THE FIRST TWO ON THIS LIST ARE PROBABLY THE MAIN HURDLES WE'VE WE FACE WITH THIS PROJECT. THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS RULES IN FLORIDA STATUTE THAT STRICTLY REGULATE OPENING NEW CHANNELS. THE STATE HAS DO LEAD TO INTERRUPTIONS IN SAND FLOW AND CAN HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF SHORELINE EROSION ON DOWNDRIFT BEACHES AND FOR THAT REASON, THEY STRICTLY MAINTAIN INLETS THAT ARE ALREADY OPEN, AND THEY STRICTLY REGULATE PROPOSED NEW CHANNELS. SO NUMBERS ONE AND TWO ON THIS LIST COME FROM FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, AND THEY REQUIRE THAT FOR NEW INLETS THAT THE INLETS REMAIN HYDRAULICALLY STABLE AND THEY REMAIN OPEN FOR MANAGEABLE PROJECT LIFE WITH PERIODIC MAINTENANCE DREDGING. IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT NEW CHANNELS DO NOT REQUIRE SHORELINE STABILIZATION TO REMAIN OPEN, SO NO ARMORING. ADDITIONAL OBJECTIVES ARE TO RESTORE AND ENHANCE THE WATER QUALITY IN THE BAY, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT ENDANGERED SPECIES IN THE AREA. PROVIDE A CLEAR PUBLIC BENEFIT. NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE EXISTING SAINT OBJECTIVES OF THE STUDY IS TO UNDERSTAND WILL THIS PROJECT QUALIFY TO OBTAIN FDEP AND U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMITS? SO 2021 OUR TEAM MRD AND CPE STARTED ON THIS AGAIN. WE WERE FUNDED BY THE RESTORE ACT GRANT. AND AGAIN, THE GOAL BY THE COUNTY IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND PERMITTING TO REOPEN HISTORIC EAST PASS TO A NATURAL NON-ARMORED CHANNEL. THAT WAS THE MAIN DRIVER IN THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH IS PHASE ONE. SO WHEN MRD BEGAN THEIR DESIGN, THEY UNDERSTOOD THEIR GREATEST RESTRICTION WAS THIS COULD NOT BE ARMORED. SO THEY THEY RESTRICTED THE ALTERNATIVES THEY REVIEWED TO THE NON-ARMORED CHANNELS. THE PROJECT IS DIVIDED INTO THE FEASIBILITY AND DESIGN STUDY WHICH IS COMPLETE. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PERMITTING AND THE FINAL PHASE WOULD BE NEPA DOCUMENTATION. SO

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EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. MAINTENANCE COSTS AT EACH EVENT AND THEN THE ANNUALIZED COST OVER 50 YEARS. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR INFLATION. REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THESE WERE PRELIMINARY COSTS. THEY WERE DONE IN 2022. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN DREDGE COSTS GO WAY UP. SO OF COURSE THESE ARE VARIABLE. AND THESE ESTIMATES DID INCLUDE PHYSICAL MONITORING BUT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL SURVEYS MITIGATION AND MONITORING THAT WE KNOW WILL BE REQUIRED. SO IT'S ARE ANY OF THESE ALTERNATIVES? IF THE PROJECT GETS PERMITTED, THE NEXT PHASE WOULD INCLUDE A DETAILED COST ESTIMATE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT CURRENT DREDGE COSTS, AND THEN ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THOSE PERMITS. SO AS YOU SAW ON THAT TABLE, ALTERNATIVE ONE C WAS THE BEST ONE. IT WAS IT WAS THE LEAST COSTLY OVER 50 YEARS.

IT REMAINED OPEN UNDER AVERAGE CONDITIONS FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS. WAS WITHIN THE PREVIOUS LOCATION OF EAST PASS. THOSE ARE THE DIMENSIONS THEIR DEPTH OF TEN FEET, 650FT WIDE AND INITIAL DREDGE VOLUME OF ABOUT 500,000YD■!T. THROUGHOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY PHASE, WE HELD SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THESE WERE IMPORTANT TO GET STAKEHOLDER INPUT. IT HELPED TO REFINE THE DESIGN, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE ALL THOSE LOGOS. ON THE RIGHT WERE THE MEMBERS OF OUR TAC MEETINGS, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATORY AND RESOURCE AGENCIES. OF COURSE, TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM IN OCTOBER OF 2022. SO A LOT OF INPUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO CONTINUING WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, YOU HAD THE TAC MEETINGS, MRD DID A SUMMARY REPORT THAT INCLUDED THE NUMERICAL MODELING, THE ALTERNATIVES ASSESSMENT, THE COSTS. AND I BELIEVE WE PRESENTED TO YOU IN JANUARY OF 2023, GOT THE APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED DESIGN, WHICH MOVED US INTO PHASE TWO. AND PHASE TWO IS THE STATE AND FEDERAL PERMITTING. AND THAT'S WHEN IT REALLY SHIFTED INTO MY COURT TO LEAD THAT COORDINATION WITH THE AGENCIES AND TO START TAKING THIS PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND FEELING OUT THE HURDLES. WE MIGHT HAVE DATA GAPS, WE MIGHT HAVE SO THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR THIS WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. AGAIN, THE LOGOS YOU SEE HERE ARE ALL OF THE MEMBERS THAT WERE PRESENT IN THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING. THOSE MEETINGS ARE GREAT BECAUSE YOU LAY OUT YOUR IDEA AND YOU HEAR FROM THEM ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE, THINGS THEY THEY SAY YOU SHOULD ADDRESS IN YOUR PERMIT APPLICATIONS. IT REALLY HELPS US. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SEVERAL AGENCY CONCERNS WERE POINTED OUT, FIRST OF WHICH WAS PURPOSE AND NEED. IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT WHATEVER WE SAY IS DRIVING THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S WATER QUALITY, RECREATIONAL BOATING, WE NEED DATA TO SHOW THAT THE RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES WE'RE PRESENTING ARE FOCUSED ON MEETING THAT PURPOSE IN NEED, AND THAT OUR PROJECT WILL ACHIEVE IT. ANOTHER CONCERN, OF COURSE, THE PROJECT WILL BE LOCATED ON TYNDALL PROPERTY, SO WE WILL REQUIRE THEIR SUPPORT.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. SO FAR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN OUR MEETINGS. THEY SUPPORT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. WE'RE DOING THE

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ONCE THE RESPONSE IS REALLY START STOPPED COMING IN. WE HAD NEARLY 1200 RESPONSES FROM THE PUBLIC, MOST OF WHOM IDENTIFIED AS BAY COUNTY RESIDENTS. SO WE FEEL THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. PEOPLE WANT THIS OPEN. THERE WAS A DEFINITE DESIRE TO SEE THE CONDITIONS IN THE BAY, THE WILDLIFE, THE CLARITY OF THE WATER. THEY WANT IT TO RETURN TO WHAT THEY KNEW THEY'D SEEN BEFORE. THERE WAS ALSO CLEAR FRUSTRATION WITH THE RESTRICTIONS ON STABILIZING AN INLET THAT THAT WAS NOT LOST ON US. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH REGULATION TO WORK AROUND, AND THAT THE WE'VE WRITTEN THAT UP IN A REPORT THAT WILL GO WITH OUR PERMIT APPLICATIONS TO SUPPORT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PROJECT. SO WHERE WE ARE NOW USING AN UPDATED SURVEY COLLECTED THIS SUMMER IN THE BAY AND OF THE ISLAND. MRD IS REFINED THE PROJECT DESIGN. SO THE CHANNEL IS STILL LOCATED WHERE I SHOWED YOU ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. SAME DIMENSIONS.

THE DISPOSAL OF THE SAND THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY. BASED ON THE PRE-APPLICATION GUIDANCE, DEP HAD SUGGESTED THAT THAT THE ENGINEERS CONSIDER PROACTIVELY CREATING THIS EBB SHOAL IN THE GULF. SO IT'S ACTUALLY PLACING THE SAND IN THE WATER. IT'S KIND OF GOING TO BE THREE SUBMERGED SAND MOUNDS. AND WHAT THAT DOES, IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO BE PUTTING IT IN FRONT OF THE CHANNEL, BUT IT ACTUALLY WILL PROTECT THE CHANNEL FROM WAVE IMPACTS AND MINIMIZE INFILLING. ADJACENT SHORELINES BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T PROACTIVELY PUT IT THERE, IT WOULD. ACTUALLY FORM ON ITS OWN OVER TIME. BUT PULLING SAND AWAY FROM THE ADJACENT BEACHES. SO WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS. AND FOR ALL THE REASONS I'VE STATED, WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A VERY STEEP UPHILL BATTLE ON PERMITTING THIS PROJECT. WE ARE WORKING HARD TO USE ALL THIS INFORMATION, TAKE ALL THE AGENCY GUIDANCE WE'VE RECEIVED, AND PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS IN THESE APPLICATIONS. LIKE I SAID, THE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. SO WE ARE DRAFTING THE APPLICATIONS NOW. WE PLAN TO SUBMIT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, AND ONCE WE DO, WE WILL WAIT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, 30 DAYS FROM FDEP LONGER FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. BUT WE WILL RECEIVE WRITTEN FEEDBACK FROM THEM, AND AT THAT TIME WE WILL SEE WHICH OF THE CONCERNS I'VE STATED ON

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THEY'RE GOING TO WANT SEAGRASS MITIGATION AND EXTENSIVE MONITORING PLANS FOR SEAGRASS AND PROBABLY WILDLIFE. AND THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS MAY ASK FOR A NEPA DOCUMENT LIKE A BIG ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, OR IT'LL LIKELY BE AN EIS. AND AT LEAST WE HAVE FIGURED OUT AT THIS POINT. TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRE TO NOT BE THE LEAD AGENCY ON THIS, AND ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AGREED THEY COULD BE. SO WE HAVE ALREADY RESOLVED THAT. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. MOVING FORWARD. BUT MOVING FORWARD, ONCE WE GET THAT FEEDBACK, THAT'S GOING TO BE WHEN WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HELP OUT. AND SO I THINK ONCE WE GET THE WRITTEN FEEDBACK FROM THE AGENCIES, WE'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THE HOLDUPS ARE. AND AT THAT TIME, MAYBE COMMENTS COULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY OR DIRECTLY TO THE AGENCIES. AND LIKELY WE'RE GOING TO NEED A CHANGE TO THE LAW IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED TO HAPPEN REGARDING CREATION OF NEW INLETS. THAT IS SOMETHING THE BACK OF OUR MINDS. THAT MIGHT BE OUR BIGGEST HOLDUP, BUT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SUBMIT THE APPLICATIONS AND GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE AGENCIES. SO WITH ALL OF THAT, THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME. I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT YET. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GAVE IT A GOOD COVERAGE. SO WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YES. SO COULD YOU COULD YOU TOUCH ON THE TIME YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT COULD YOU TALK? ABSOLUTELY. YEP. SO WE ARE DRAFTING THE APPLICATIONS NOW AND WE WILL SUBMIT DRAFT APPLICATIONS TO THE COUNTY. SO THEY CAN REVIEW COMMENT. WE CAN ADDRESS ANY FEEDBACK THEY HAVE.

THAT WILL PROBABLY BE WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 4 WEEKS. THEN WITHIN WITHIN 2 TO 4 WEEKS AFTER THAT DEPENDING ON THE EXTENT OF THEIR COMMENTS, WE WOULD SUBMIT THEM. OUR PLAN IS TO SUBMIT THEM TO FDEP AND US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AT THE SAME TIME. DEP HAS A TIME CLOCK, SO THEY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE IN WRITING SOMETHING CALLED A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR AN REA. WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING OUR OUR APPLICATION. THE CORPS DOES NOT HAVE A TIMELINE LIKE THAT. EXCUSE ME. AND I KNOW THEY'RE VERY BACKED UP. THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES TO PERMITTING THAT HAVE PUT SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS INTO THEIR WORKLOAD. SO THE CORPS HAS THE STRONGEST CONCERNS. SO WITHIN 30 DAYS WE WILL SEE WHICH ONES THEY'RE POINTING TO AND WHAT QUESTIONS THEY'RE ASKING AND WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL NEED TO BE GATHERED. GREAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAVE SAY THAT WE FAST FORWARD, WE GET THAT INFORMATION BACK, WE START WORKING ON THAT INFORMATION AND WE START PUTTING OTHER PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER. AT THAT TIME, WHAT WHAT WOULD YOU THINK? BECAUSE I'M GETTING A LOT OF INPUT. DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY WANT THIS VERY BAD AND THEY'RE THEY'RE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED. YEAH. AND SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY BEING INVOLVED AND AT WHAT TIME PERIOD? AND IF YOU COULD TALK TO US ABOUT THAT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I A SURVEY AND I WOULD SAY THE TIMING OF THAT ONCE WE GET THOSE AGENCY CONCERNS BACK, WE CAN TALK TO THE COUNTY ON HOW THEY WANT TO DISSEMINATE SOME INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP. IT MIGHT BE MAYBE SUPPORT ON IF THEY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE OF PREVIOUS CONDITIONS, OR IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THEY'LL ASK FOR, BUT THERE COULD BE PARTICULAR INFORMATION. THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE. IT MIGHT END UP BEING MORE IMPORTANT TO GET COMMUNITY SUPPORT AIMED TOWARDS HELPING TO CHANGE THE LAWS REGARDING NEW INLETS. I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED DONE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING WE COULD WORK WITH. THE COUNTY TO KIND OF HELP FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST DIRECTION FOR THEIR COMMENTS. WHO SHOULD THEY WRITE THEM TO? I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO COORDINATE ON HOW WE CAN ASK THE PUBLIC TO

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SO UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE THE INFORMATION IS HELPFUL THAT'S OUT THERE AND WE ARE INCORPORATING IT IN THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS, WE ARE CERTAIN THE AGENCIES WILL REQUIRE A VERY EXTENSIVE BAY WIDE SEAGRASS SURVEY. AND THAT'S MAPPING. IT'S VIDEOING. IT'S CHARACTERIZING.

AND THEN THEY WOULD THEY WOULD REQUIRE MONITORING EACH YEAR ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. MA'AM FIRST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING. OH YOU'RE WELCOME.

IT'S MY PLEASURE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS. A COUPLE OF THINGS. NIGHT PASS. HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT PROJECT AND THEN WHAT? MIRACULOUSLY, HAS HAPPENED DURING HURRICANE MILTON. OH, BOY. SO, YES, IN SARASOTA COUNTY, THERE IS A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE DEALING WITH HERE IN MIDNIGHT PASS WAS PREVIOUSLY OPENED AND SEPARATED SIESTA KEY FROM CASEY KEY. AND IN THE 1980S IT WAS CLOSED. THE DETAILS OF ITS CLOSING ARE A LITTLE UNCLEAR. BUT IT HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE THE 1980S, AND THE PUBLIC, MUCH LIKE THE PUBLIC IN BAY COUNTY, THE PUBLIC WANTS LITTLE SARASOTA BAY, WHICH IS BEHIND THE ISLANDS, THERE, TO BE RESTORED TO WHAT IT USED TO BE. SO I THINK THEY INITIALLY APPLIED FOR AN APPLICATION TO REOPEN IT IN THE IN THE APPLIED IN 2004 FOR A PERMIT. LIKE THE ONE YOU GUYS ARE APPLYING FOR, AND I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVED SEVEN ROUNDS OF RAISE THOSE REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND AFTER FOUR YEARS OF BACK AND FORTH, THEY ULTIMATELY WERE DENIED PROJECT ISSUANCE BY FDEP FOR SEVERAL REASONS. IN THEIR LETTER OF JUSTIFICATION. BUT PURPOSE AND NEED EXTENSIVE IMPACTS TO SEAGRASS TO LISTED SPECIES. SO THEY FACED THEY FACED A LOT OF CHALLENGES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE FACE HERE. YES, IT'S BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING CHANGE OF EVENTS. I THINK HELENE CRACKED THAT PASS OPEN A LITTLE BIT AND EVERYONE WAS VERY EXCITED. AND THEN I THINK MILTON BLEW IT WIDE OPEN. SO THAT IS A VERY INTERESTING CHANGE OF EVENTS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT MIDNIGHT PASS REOPENED. AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY APART FROM IT REOPENING. I KNOW THAT THEY HAD RECENTLY DECIDED TO START WORKING TO WITH LOBBYISTS TO PERHAPS GET THESE LAWS CHANGED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT THAT REALLY PROHIBIT NEW INLETS. SO THEY'RE ALREADY KIND OF A STEP AHEAD ON THAT, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY HAD THEIR PROJECTS PERMIT DENIED. SO YEAH, IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING ONE TO WATCH TO SEE IS THE AGENCIES JUST WEAR YOU OUT. THEY HAVE PRETTY MUCH BOILERPLATE PIPING PLOVER, CHOCTAWHATCHEE BEACH MOUSE, SAME SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER. THAT THEY DENY DENY, DENY CONTINUOUSLY. AND I GUESS WHAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT SOMEWHAT IS MAYBE GETTING OUTSIDE THE BOX A LITTLE BIT. WE TALKED ABOUT TETRAPODS, WHICH ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT WAY TO ARMOR THE BEACH. AND THEY INCREASE FISH HABITAT. THEY ARE THEY IT'S A VERY INTERESTING WAY TO

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THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED. SO ARE THERE ANY STUDIES ON THIS NEW STUFF AND TRY TO GO IN A DIFFERENT ANGLE INSTEAD OF JUST WASTING TIME WAITING ON 30 DAYS FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING BACK. SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IS LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO TRY TO GET THE ARMORING DONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU'VE SEEN ONE SUCCESSFULLY BEING PERMITTED, OR HAVE YOU? I HAVE NOT SEEN A NEW INLET BE OPENED. I'VE SEEN EXAMPLES OF WHERE ONES HAVE RECENTLY CLOSED, LIKE VERY RECENTLY CLOSED. AND THEN I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR THIS LONG BE SUCCESSFULLY PERMITTED FOR REOPENING. OKAY. THE COST THAT YOU'VE GOT TOGETHER WAS FROM 2022, BUT WE JUST GOT BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED FOR MEXICO BEACH GETTING READY TO START CONSTRUCTION. HAVE YOU COMPARED THOSE JUST TO SEE ARE WE ARE THEY KIND OF IN LINE? I KNOW THERE'S ADDITIONAL COSTS COMING, BUT I MEAN THIS IS KIND OF A REVERSE. YEAH, YEAH. SAME PROCESS. QUICK ANSWER. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I DON'T THINK WE COMPARED IT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY FAR OFF FROM CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT. BUT MICHAEL DOMBROWSKI MAY HAVE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BACK OF THE ENVELOPE KIND OF CALCULATIONS AND THERE'S HIS INFORMATION. BY THE WAY, IF ANYONE WANTS TO E-MAIL HIM. BUT NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT WE HAVE SEEN IN GENERAL THE PER CUBIC YARD COSTS GO UP. MOBILIZATION COSTS ARE TYPICALLY GOING UP. AND THEN LIKE I MENTIONED, THE COSTS THAT AREN'T CAPTURED ON ON THE TABLE FROM, FROM MRD'S REPORT WOULD BE THE SEAGRASS MITIGATION BECAUSE THERE WILL THERE WILL BE UNAVOIDABLE BECAUSE THAT THAT'S ALL GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE SEE THE REGULATORY CONCERNS AND REQUIREMENTS. SO HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OTHER OPTIONS OF DOING THIS TYPE OF CHANNEL, WHETHER IT'S LIKE DUSTIN'S GOT A PUMPING SYSTEM. I KNOW THAT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW THERE'S OTHER. I KNOW IN SOUTH CAROLINA THEY'VE PUT OUTFALLS. YOU KNOW WHERE PUT PIPING SYSTEMS ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. I MEAN YEAH, NOT NOTHING THAT I'VE WORKED ON. NO. NOTHING THAT I COULD SPEAK TO HERE TODAY. AGAIN, WE GOT TO START THINKING OUT OF THE BOX. YEAH, I COMPLETELY AGREE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REALLY SEEING THE WRITING ON THE WALL, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU GUYS ARE ARE TAKING A STEP BACK AND KIND OF GETTING A BIGGER VIEW OF THE SITUATION AND LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS TO, TO SOLVE IT. AND I THINK THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD. AND I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING UP MIDNIGHT PASS IS A GOOD ONE. I MEAN, MAYBE REACH OUT TO SARASOTA COUNTY, SEE SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING ON

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YEAH FOR SURE. LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE EB SHOAL BEING PUT OUT FRONT. HOW HIGH IS THAT BUILT? I BELIEVE THE MAXIMUM ELEVATION OF THOSE LITTLE SAND MOUNDS WOULD BE AT MINUS SEVEN. SO YOU'D STILL HAVE SEVEN FEET CLEARANCE AND THEY WOULD BE THREE DISCRETE AREAS.

SO AS FAR AS NAVIGATION FOR INSTANCE, YOU COULD GO BETWEEN THEM. IT WOULD BE DEEPER BETWEEN THEM, BUT THE SHALLOWEST THEY WOULD GET IS MINUS SEVEN. SO HOW HIGH WOULD THAT BE FROM GRADE.

THE BOTTOM OF THE I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR. BASICALLY I THINK A BOAT COULD COULD HAVE A SEVEN FOOT DRAFT AND CLEAR. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH, BUT THE BOTTOM. HOW MUCH SAND ARE YOU PUTTING? OH. ABOVE THE. I'M NOT OR MYSELF TO EXPLAIN. SO THAT'S ON ME. BUT THEY DO HAVE ALL OF THAT WORKED OUT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE PERMIT SKETCHES THAT WILL GO WITH THIS PERMIT APPLICATION. SO WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL DETAILS FOR YOU. NO PROBLEM. IN FACT, IT'LL ALL BE WITH THE DRAFT APPLICATION WE'LL BE SENDING YOU GUYS SOON, IF THAT HELPS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I HAD A FEW ON KIND OF ON THE COST SIDE BEING THE FINANCE GUY, NOT THE ENGINEER GUY OR THE FISHING LADY OR THE GUY THAT'S BEEN DOING THIS FOREVER. BUT. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE LEAD. BUT ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE COST. AND THEN THAT WAS MY QUESTION ON THE ED SHOW. IS IT BETTER FROM THE STANDPOINT OF DOING THAT SHOW OF REDUCING, ACTUALLY THE COST OF HAVING TO DO THE DREDGE IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST BE PULLING FROM THERE? IS THAT IS THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S BENEFICIAL FROM A COST STANDPOINT OF PULLING FROM THE CHANNEL AND PUTTING IT RIGHT THERE, THAT IT'S NOT GOT TO TRAVEL AS FAR? OR DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. YES, I THE COST ESTIMATE HE DID IN THAT REPORT. THAT WAS BACK WHEN THEY ASSUMED THERE WOULD BE PIPELINES ON THE BEACH TO CREATE THE DUNES. SO THERE WOULD BE A COST BENEFIT TO KEEPING IT IN THE WATER. OKAY. AND THEN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF DOING THE SEAGRASS STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE BAY, WHAT WHAT IS THAT LOOKING LIKE? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT ALL WOULD THAT ENTAIL? WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE AND WHAT WOULD BE. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF AN ANTICIPATED COST OF THAT? YES. WELL, THE SURVEY ITSELF NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS. THERE'S A SEAGRASS GROWING SEASON. SO THE SOONEST IT COULD BE DONE WOULD BE STARTING IN MAY OF NEXT YEAR. WE DID REACH OUT TO SOME FIRMS FOR COST ESTIMATES BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING UNDER THIS CONTRACT. BUT WE WERE CURIOUS WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT DEP AND THEN ALSO NATIONAL MARINE FISHERIES SERVICE WANTED AN EVEN BIGGER SURVEY AREA. WE I BELIEVE, RANGED FROM 200,000 TO NEARLY $500,000. AND THAT IS FOR A SURVEY OF THE WHOLE BAY THAT'S MAPPING ALL THE PATCHES.

THAT IS CHARACTERIZING THE SPECIES YOU SEE THERE. THE HEALTH OF THE SEAGRASS, AND THAT IS INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE USED BY THE AGENCIES FOR THE PERMITTING ALONE TO DEVELOP A MONITORING PLAN THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED PRE AND POST CONSTRUCTION AND THAT DATA WOULD ALSO BE USED TO CALCULATE THE MITIGATION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM IMPACTS FROM DREDGING THE INLET AND FROM POTENTIAL IMPACTS WITHIN THAT THAT MIXING ZONE, THE TURBIDITY ZONE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE BASICALLY A ONE TIME COST FOR THAT SURVEY. AND THEN THE COUNTY COULD EXPECT A SIMILAR COST FOR EACH YEAR THAT SURVEYS ARE REQUIRED. THAT IS EACH YEAR, BUT BASED IT WOULD BE EVERY YEAR. AND THEIR THEIR CONCERNS ARE THAT REOPENING THE BAY IS ESSENTIALLY CHANGING IT FROM ITS ESTUARY NOW. AND A PORTION OF IT WOULD LIKELY BECOME MORE MARINE. THE SALINITY WOULD INCREASE. AND SO THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THE COMMUNITY, THE SEAGRASS COMMUNITY, WOULD ACTUALLY CHANGE OR OR BE REDUCED LIKE THROUGHOUT THE BAY. AND SO THEY REALLY WANT THIS, THE EXTENT OF THE SURVEY TO GO FARTHER THAN I HAD EXPECTED. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERABLE, CONSIDERABLE COST. AND THEN THE MITIGATION ALSO IS A CONSIDERABLE COST AND EFFORT TO. PUT, I DON'T KNOW. IF THAT ANSWERS YES. AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY LAST MEETING AND I'M DOING MY BEST TO REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING MY MIND ON THIS. YEAH. IF I SAY

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HERE IT IS, 20 YEARS LATER AND THEY'RE STILL DOING IT. SO. BUT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING ALL THE WAY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TRYING TO GET THIS DONE. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ALSO TOLD US WHEN WE WENT OVER THERE AS A GROUP TO TALLAHASSEE WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO AN NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT, TO KEEP IT OPEN. WE WOULD JUST WATCH IT CLOSE AND THAT'S THAT'S SENSELESS. WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? WHY WOULD WE SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THAT? THEY SAID, NOW WHEN YOU WHEN YOU COME TO US FOR A PERMIT AND WANT TO MAINTAIN IT AND KEEP IT OPEN, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HILL TO CLIMB, THEY SAID. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. THEY JUST PUT UP ALL KIND OF ROADBLOCKS FOR US. AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE FOR THE, IN MY OPINION, FOR THE BAY AND FOR THE PEOPLE OF BAY COUNTY. WE'RE THE ONES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH OVER THERE. I WON'T GO ANY FURTHER ON THAT, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT GOOD. NOT PLEASANT TO DEAL WITH SOMETIMES THE WAY THEY LOOK AT THINGS AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH IT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE END OF THIS. WHEN WE IN 3 TO 4 MONTHS, WHEN WE GET THOSE THE VERBIAGE BACK OF WHAT THEY WANT US TO WE'RE TRULY GOING TO RALLY THE TROOPS AND UNLEASH THE COMMUNITY AND DO ALL WE CAN DO. AND I PROMISE YOU, I'LL BE LEADING THE GROUP. AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE AND THE YOUR YOUR REPORT TODAY HAS BEEN, I THOUGHT, BEEN VERY FABULOUS, VERY INFORMATIVE AND GIVEN THE HISTORY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE.

YOU'RE WELCOME. WELL THANK YOU AGAIN. ALL OF YOU, FOR HAVING ME. AND COMMISSIONER DOZIER, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT. SO THANK YOU. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU'RE RETIRING VERY MUCH. I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE COUNTY TO FINDING SOME WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. ALL RIGHT. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. NEXT.

BE OPEN FOR ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE BOARD AWARDED TRANSIT MARKETING SERVICES CONTRACT 2438 TO TOP RANKED FIRM BOWERSTON, LLC. AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OFFICE. UNDER ITEM FOUR, A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE PIPELINE ROAD PROPERTY SALE CONTRACT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE THIRD AND COUNTRY LAKE DRIVE. ITEM FIVE TRIUMPH SUPPORT RESOLUTION FOR PROJECT CLEAR. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SUPPORT RESOLUTION FOR TRIUMPH GULF COAST FOR PROJECT CLEAR, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN SAME ITEM. SIX 2312 GAME FARM ROAD LAND DIVISION SALE. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD DECLARE THE 20 FOOT STRIP OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2312 GAME FARM ROAD, OWNED BY BAY COUNTY, AS SURPLUS. APPROVED THE SALE OF THE STRIP TO MET HOLDINGS, LLC AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CONTRACT AND CLOSING DOCUMENTS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM SEVEN 2025 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING SCHEDULE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE 2025 CALENDAR YEAR AND APPROVE THE 2025 HOLIDAY SCHEDULE. ITEM EIGHT INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY PANAMA CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THE BOARD REVIEW AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY PANAMA CITY. JUST TO A SIGNING CEREMONY BETWEEN US

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL STATE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $98,708 FOR YEAR FOR THE BAY COUNTY REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. THE GRANT PERIOD IS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. UNDER PUBLIC WORKS JUVENILE COURTHOUSE EASEMENT TRANSFER TO THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE CONVEYANCE OF A WATER LINE EASEMENT TO THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO RECORD THE CONVEYANCE WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ITEM 12 TITUS ROAD, STATE ROAD 390 LINDSAY CROSSINGS FUNDING AGREEMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SIGNALIZED AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT AND RESOLUTION AS AND, AS WELL AS ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER UTILITY SERVICES. ITEM 13 DRINKING WATER AND CLEAN WATER. STATE REVOLVING FUND CONSTRUCTION LOAN AGREEMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO LOAN AGREEMENTS FOR THE DRINKING WATER AND CLEAN WATER. STATE REVOLVING FUND CONSTRUCTION LOAN AGREEMENT, DWS 0302J AND CW 0302I AND RATIFY THE ADVANCE PAYMENT FORMS AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE RESOLUTIONS AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

THIS MORNING, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MOTION. SECOND.

MOTION. A COUPLE MOTIONS IN A SECOND. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YE, COMMISSIONER. MOORE. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES,

[Budget Office]

IT'S AND I APPRECIATE THEM PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. OKAY. I AGREE. JUST WE'VE NEVER USED THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM TO PULL EVER HAD A PLAN FOR SAVING THE RESERVES, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS UNDERWAY AND HAVE FELT WE NEEDED IT SINCE I. AGREED. IT'S WHOLEHEARTEDLY NEEDED. WE DON'T NEED TO RELY ON RENOURISHMENT FUNDS OR ANYTHING TO BAIL US OUT. SO HAVING THIS POLICY AND HAVING THESE RESERVE FUNDS MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. SO YEAH, THAT'S ONE THING. WHEN I RAN THIS IS ONE OF MY FIRST CONVERSATIONS WITH BOB THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND WORKING THROUGH FOR THE BIT AND GETTING SOME OTHER THINGS LINED UP SO WHERE WE COULD DO THIS AND ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO WORKING THROUGH THIS, MIRANDA, YOU AS WELL, AND PUTTING UP WITH MY QUESTIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS AT VARIOUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. BUT THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION, IT'S BEING DONE IN A WAY THAT STILL IS

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WE'LL MAKE THIS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR WHEN WE MAKE OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION TO YOU, WE'LL. AND IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING UNFORESEEN THAT REQUIRE US TO UTILIZE RESERVES, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A HURRICANE, OUR EMERGENCY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POLICY GIVES EMERGENCY PURPOSES, BUT AS YOU WELL KNOW, THAT'S ALSO IMMEDIATELY RATIFIED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE NEXT BALL ARE ALSO ALWAYS PARTICIPANTS AND PRESENT IN THE EOC. WHEN THE. OUTSIDE OF THE LOOP OF WHAT THE CHAIRMAN AND I ARE ACTUALLY THE ACT. HAVE TO BE FOR A DEDICATED PURPOSE THERE IN A DEDICATED FUND, AND FOR THEM TO BE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? WITH THE WITH THE TEN YEAR IT'S A TEN YEAR ON FOR FIRE AND EMS. OKAY. MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. AND CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER.

PEACE. YES, COMMISSIONER. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAN. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO CHAIRMAN. THESE NEXT THREE ITEMS

[Public Works]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. MR. KEITH BRYANT, NUMBER 15, BREAKFAST POINT EAST, PHASE THREE PLAT APPROVAL. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING, MISS BRIDGET PRECISE, PRESIDENT OF THE BREAKFAST POINT LLC, IS REQUESTING FINAL APPROVAL OF THE PLAT OF BREAKFAST POINT EAST PHASE THREE SUBDIVISION. THE SUBDIVISION CONSISTS OF 91 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 0.67 MILES OF PUBLIC ROADWAY. STORMWATER. STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS, DRAINAGE EASEMENTS, AND COMMON AREAS WILL ALL REMAIN PRIVATE. THE DEVELOPMENT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING ON MAY 28TH, 2020 FOR THE SUBDIVISION, PLAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 177.071 OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND ALL COUNTY REGULATIONS. THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER WAS HAS PROVIDED A THE REQUESTED MOTION IS APPROVED. THE FINAL PLAT OF

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SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES, MA'AM. AND. COMMISSIONER CARROLL ABSTAINS. ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE INTO NUMBER 16, COLLEGE STATION, PHASE FOUR PLAT APPROVAL. YES, SIR. MISS BRIGITTE PRIEST, VICE PRESIDENT, SJ COLLEGE STATION, LLC, IS REQUESTING FINAL APPROVAL FOR THE PLAT OF COLLEGE STATION PHASE FOUR SUBDIVISION. THE SUBDIVISION CONSISTS OF 59 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 0.5 MILES OF PUBLIC ROADWAY AND LIFT STATION, WHICH IS DEDICATED TO BAY COUNTY. THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS, DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND COMMON AREAS WILL REMAIN PRIVATE. THE DEVELOPMENT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING ON AUGUST 1ST, 071. FLORIDA STATUTE AND ALL BAY COUNTY REGULATIONS. THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A PERFORMANCE BOND FOR THE ROAD, DRAINAGE, WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS APPROVED. THE FINAL PLAT OF COLLEGE STATION PHASE FOUR SUBDIVISION AND AUTHORIZED STAFF TO RECORD THE DEVELOPMENT PERFORMANCE BOND WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS. NO. OKAY. CAN WE GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER PIECE. CHAIRMAN. HAMM. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL ABSTAINS. OKAY, WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 17 LATITUDE AT WATERSOUND AREA ONE, PHASE NINE. YES, SIR. AND FINALLY, MR. BRIAN CALE, VICE PRESIDENT OF LM, W S LLC. AND BRIDGET PRIEST OF SAINT JOE TIMBERLAND COMPANY ARE REQUESTING FINAL APPROVAL OF THE PLAT OF AND 88 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WITH 1.78 MILES OF PRIVATE ROADWAY AND 0.78 MILE OF PUBLIC ROADWAY. THE DEVELOPER WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING ON JUNE 6TH, 2024 AND MAY 5TH, 2024, RESPECTIVELY. THE SUBDIVISION PLAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 177.0 .071. FLORIDA STATUTES, AND ALL BAY COUNTY REGULATIONS. THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A PERFORMANCE BOND FOR THE PUBLIC ROAD DRAINAGE AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS APPROVED.

FINAL PLAT OF LATITUDE AT WATERSOUND AREA ONE, PHASE NINE, AND AUTHORIZED STAFF TO RECORD THE DEVELOPMENT PERFORMANCE BONDS WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE NOTHING FOR PUBLIC HEARING. GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. AT THIS

[PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)]

GOOD EVENING. I THINK BAY COUNTY DOES YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES. CLIFFORD REED 6412 CAMPFIRES ROAD AND YOUNGSTOWN. AND I'M GOING TO NOT REALLY SAY WHAT I HAD PLANNED TO SAY. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING MORNING WITH THE WITH THE EAST PASS. AND I THINK MAINLY THAT THE BIGGEST INTERESTING COMMENT THERE WAS THE PROBLEMS WITH THE PERMITS. I JUST WANT TO GO OVER SOMETHING REAL QUICK. WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG OR IN MY 20S, ANYWAY, I WAS A WE STARTED ON A PROJECT ONE MORNING IN MARICOPA COUNTY ABOUT 5:00. THE EXCAVATORS ARE ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. THE MAIN PART OF THE PLUMBING INSIDE THE POOL WAS READY. WE JUMPED IN, GOT THE STEEL DONE. THERE WAS NO PERMIT REQUIRED. WE WENT FROM DIG TO GUNITE, FINISHED, SCULPTED GUNITE APPROXIMATELY 45 YARDS OF IT. BY THAT END OF THAT DAY. THERE WAS NO PERMIT REQUIRED. NOW, HERE'S THE DEAL. THAT KIND OF SAME KIND OF THING NOW, WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON, TAKES ABOUT A MONTH. TIME IS MONEY. SO THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM WITH PERMITTING AND REGULATIONS, NOT JUST IN BAY COUNTY, BUT ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, BUT IN BAY COUNTY, FOR SURE. ALSO, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I

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LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WITH ALL THE REST OF THE STUFF THAT'S GOING ON. THIS IS JUST I THINK IT'S A BREACH, TRULY A BREACH OF THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I'M GOING TO PUT THAT TO YOU AND LET YOU THINK ABOUT IT. THE LADY HERE HAS SOME HANDOUTS FOR YOU WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME VERY MUCH. YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YES, MA'AM. NAME'S JULIE AND I'M AT 3913 DOLPHIN DRIVE ON PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA. AND I JUST WANTED TO COME FIRST TO REALLY EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED TO ENABLE TRANSPORTATION FOR ALL CITIZENS IN THE COUNTY. UNTIL YOU OR SOMEONE THAT YOU LOVE IS TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGED, YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE THE SCOPE OF THE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT SITUATION. MY SON SETH, WHO IS NOW 20 YEARS OLD, DESPITE MULTIPLE DRIVING LESSONS AND ALL OF THAT, STILL REMAINS A DANGER TO HIMSELF AND OTHERS ON THE ROADS. SO HE PROBABLY WON'T BE DRIVING IN HIS LIFETIME. HOWEVER, HE CAN NAVIGATE A KITCHEN DOVE DUBBED THE FRY GUY THERE, AND HE LOVES HIS JOB AND HE IS NOW WORKING FULL TIME AND UP UNTIL ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, I WAS THE TAXI TO AND FROM WORK UNTIL WE DISCOVERED THE BAY WAY. UBER TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. SO HE HAS NOW BEEN ABLE TO SCHEDULE HIMSELF A RIDE TO WORK AND OTHER PLACES. HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT FOR $1.50, WHICH MAKES IT AFFORDABLE FOR SOMEONE WHO'S MAKING MINIMUM WAGE. BUT YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT THAT PROGRAM, THE NEED IS FAR EXCEEDING THE GRANT FUNDS AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. AND SO NOW, ABOUT THE SECOND WEEK OF A MONTH, HE GOES TO SCHEDULE AND IT'S NOW BETWEEN 15 AND $32 EACH WAY, WHICH IS AN UNSUSTAINABLE RATE FOR ANYBODY MAKING MINIMUM WAGE OR LESS. THE INDEPENDENCE THAT MORE AND MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT EVERY DAY. HE'S EXPERIENCING THE DIGNITY AND FREEDOM OF A LIFE MOST OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED IN BEING ABLE TO DRIVE. ADDITIONALLY, THE SERVICE HAS ALLOWED ME THE FREEDOM TO REENTER THE WORKFORCE. I'M NO LONGER A SLAVE TO HIS SCHEDULE, AND HE'S NOT LOCKED INTO MINE EITHER. ULTIMATELY, WITHOUT THE PROGRAM, IT LIMITS AN INDIVIDUAL'S OPPORTUNITY TO WORK, ATTEND SOCIAL GATHERINGS, OR GET GROCERIES OR MEDICAL CARE. SO I AM JUST HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE EXTENSION OF THAT PROGRAM. I, I IMPLORE YOU GUYS TO TAKE WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY TO GET THE GRANT FUNDING EXTENDED FOR IT. I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WILL DO, AND I JUST PRAY YOU'LL CONTINUE I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. YOU KNEW YOUR TIME WAS COMING, RIGHT? OKAY. GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, MA'AM. JESSICA GRAHAM I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE SAINT ANDREW. SAINT JOSEPH BAY ESTUARY PROGRAM AT 4750 COLLEGIATE AVE. SO I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ESTUARY PROGRAM. NOT ONLY TO VOTE TO CREATE IT, BUT YOU PUT FINANCIAL BACKING TO IT AND YOU CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS FILLING NECESSARY GAPS IN OUR KNOWLEDGE. AND YOU APPOINT TWO PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY ON OUR POLICY BOARD, FILLED BY COMMISSIONER MOORE AND COMMISSIONER DOZIER. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MOORE, FOR ALL OF YOUR PARTICIPATION, YOUR GUIDANCE AND LEADERSHIP. AND ON TO COMMISSIONER DOZIER. I CAN'T

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'A. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES? OH. SIT DOWN. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR. GRIFF GRIFFITHS. 5320 HOPETOWN LANE. I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL. ENLIGHTENING CONVERSATION. THIS AN ELECTED OFFICER, AND IT'S BEEN A PASSION PROJECT OF HIS. WE DO HAVE PROPERTY. THERE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY ON SHELL ISLAND. I WOULD JUST SUGGEST YOU EMINENT DOMAIN IT AND START DIGGING. DIG RIGHT THROUGH IT AND WE'LL WORRY ABOUT THE REST LATER. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR SENATOR AND YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE ON YOUR SIDE, AND WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO KEEP YOU ALL OUT OF JAIL. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED I WANTED TO COME UP AND THANK Y'ALL. THANK COMMISSIONER DOZIER AND COMMISSIONER HAMM FOR THEIR SERVICE. I KNOW THIS IS THEIR LAST MEETING, AND I, I HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE WITH BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN, AND IT'S BEEN A TRUE PLEASURE. TOMMY'S TIRELESS DEDICATION TO THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HAS NOT GONE UNRECOGNIZED. AND YOU HAVE A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE, AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY RETIREMENT IN NORTH CAROLINA AND ALL THAT GOES WITH IT. COMMISSIONER DOZIER, I THINK HE'S THE SECOND LONGEST COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN BAY COUNTY HISTORY, BEHIND ISAAC BYRD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND THIS IS NOT DISPARAGING TO ANY OF Y'ALL, BUT COMMISSIONER DOZIER WORKS IS A TIRELESS SERVANT TO BAY COUNTY. HIS ENTIRE ADULT LIFE HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO BAY COUNTY. WHETHER HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE OR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. IF EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY LOVED BAY COUNTY AS MUCH AS BILL DOZIER, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A THING TO WORRY ABOUT. SO I WANT TO WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR RETIREMENT BILL. I HOPE YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT BECAUSE I THINK YOU'D BE A GREAT ASSET FOR ANYBODY IN ANY BOARD YOU SIT ON.

SO ENJOY YOURSELF AND THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO TOO. AND DON'T FORGET, GO VOTE TODAY.

THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. OKAY. ALL

[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT]

AND THERE IS A REASON. I'M SORRY. THE REASON THE REAL REASON IS THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE THIRD ATTORNEY, WE'RE HAVING TO TELL THEM WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TELL THEM. AND SO THIS WOULD BE A REALLY A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? OH WELL I DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND YOUR RETIREMENT IS COMING UP AND, YOU

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TO THE FUTURE THAT PHYSICIAN I AGREE, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO HELP, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL OFFICE GET SOME STABILITY. YEAH. AND KNOWING WHO YOUR PREDECESSOR IS GOING TO BE. SO WE CAN RECRUIT A PERSON COMING IN, I THINK BRIAN WOULD DO AN EXCELLENT JOB. EVEN WHEN HE TOLD ME I WAS WRONG, I STILL THINK HE'LL DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN THOSE THOSE PESKY STATUTES ALWAYS SEEM TO GET BUT I THINK OUR IN HOUSE LEGAL IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS. SO WE DON'T GET OFF OFF RAILS. BUT BUT I WOULD I WOULDN'T THINK OF ANY PERSON BETTER THAN THAN BRIAN TO DO THAT. YEAH. I AGREE AS WELL. I THINK BRIAN IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE. WE ARE WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. WE HAVE BEEN GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE, DON. AND GREAT PRIVATE CAREER. BRIAN, AND WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT YOU PUT THAT TO THE SIDE TO COME JOIN THE COUNTY AND REPRESENT US. I THINK IT'S A GREAT CHOICE. I'LL MAKE. I AGREE. I, I'LL BE STANDING NEXT TO. REALLY GETTING IN TROUBLE UP HERE. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S BIG SHOES TO FILL FOR YOU, BRIAN, BUT YOU'RE THINGS YOU'VE HELPED ME WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN. I ALSO THINK THAT BRIAN WILL DO A TERRIFIC JOB. HE'S EXTREMELY SMART AND HE DOESN'T MIND TELLING US NO. AND WHEN WE MAKE AN ERROR IN JUDGMENT. SO I'M HAPPY FOR THAT. SO. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, YOU WANT TO SINCE YOU WANT TO HAVE. NO. JUST APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT BOTH OF THE GENTLEMEN HAVE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY AND SERVING FROM LEGAL COUNSEL. IT AS A FELLOW ATTORNEY AND SITTING THERE AND GOING THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS, IT DOES GET ENTERTAINING WITH THE IFS AND THE THENS AND BUT WHAT'S THAT GO INTO THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND APPRECIATE BOTH OF Y'ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORKING WITH BRIAN IN THE NEW POSITION. SOMETHING ELSE YOU TO WORK ON THE CONTRACT AND NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT. YEAH, I KNOW. I MEAN, USUALLY THE CHAIR DOES THAT. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE TOO AWFUL LONG TO IRON SOMETHING OUT WITH BRIAN. YEAH. IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO DO THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO. I KNO. OKAY. I'M GONNA GO GET HIM. OKAY. I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. SO WE NEED WE NEED A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. BURKE AS OUR SECOND AND THIRD CHAIRMAN TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT. I GOT ONE THING TO SAY REAL QUICK BEFORE WE. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, I JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST MOVES THAT WE'VE MADE HERE AT BAY COUNTY IN MY TIME HAS BEEN BRINGING AN IN-HOUSE COUNSEL. YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE COUNSEL THAT THAT WAS NOT IN-HOUSE. AND SO WHEN WE DID THAT, WE MADE AS A AS INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS AND ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS THE DEPTH AND THE TEAM, THE DEPTH THAT THAT DON HAS BEEN ABLE TO PUT IN OUR TEAM AND WITH THE QUALITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, WE'RE JUST VERY PLEASED WITH THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT THAT WE'RE JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES THE PROCESS IS SO CUMBERSOME. YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISE AND DO ALL. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE WHERE WHERE WE CAN MAKE A CHOICE IN BRINGING THE SECOND IN COMMAND UP TO THE FIRST IN COMMAND AND STILL NOT MISS A BEAT AND CONTINUE FORWARD. AND SO AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO BRIAN OF THE QUALITY OF ATTORNEY THAT HE IS AS WELL. AND, AND THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE DONE. DON. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO ECHO SOME OF THAT TOO, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN IN-HOUSE COUNSEL, NOT THAT IT HAPPENS, BUT BRINGING AN AGENDA TO THE COUNTY

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NOTHING ELSE. SO WITH ALL THAT OUT, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS DONE HAVE ANYTHING. I KNOW WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'LL. WE'LL CALL THE ROLL. ALL RIGHT. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER.

PEACE. YES. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'LL GO INTO

[COUNTY MANAGER REPORT]

PROGRAM MOVES FORWARD. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A SHORT TERM FIX FOR THE FUNDING SOLUTION TO THE. PRISON. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF. FALL BACK IMMEDIATELY. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING IS TRY TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE TODAY, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL FREE TRIPS UP. ALL RIGHT. I THINK EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE DO IN THEIR LIFE HERE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE OR GOING OUT AND RECREATING. BUT YEAH, IF WE CAN CAP IT, THEN THE OTHER ITEM I'VE GOT IS AFTER THE MEETING WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THE SIGNING CEREMONY, BUT WE'RE ALSO FOLLOWING THAT GOING TO HAVE A COMMISSION FAREWELL GATHERING ALSO IN ROOM 1030. AND SO WE WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO JOIN US FOR THAT. WHO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHTY. GUESS WE'LL GO INTO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. WELL, LADIES FIRST

[CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

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BUT JUST WANT TO BE ABLE, AS VICE CHAIR, TO PRESENT TO YOU AS CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS SERVING AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COUNTY. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT GUYS. ALL RIGHT. MY TURN. YOUR TURN. ALL RIGHT. WELL, AS COMMISSIONER MOORE STATED ABOUT PERCENT HAVE NOT VOTED. SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF YOU OUT THERE THAT NEED TO GO VOTE, SO CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH. UPCOMING NOVEMBER 11TH, JUST A FEW DAYS IS VETERANS DAY. WE HAVE MILITARY PERSONNEL HERE TODAY, BUT WE DON'T NEED ONE DAY OUT OF THE YEAR TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR VETERANS. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE IN UNIFORM, THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE. THANK THEM FOR THEIR DEDICATION. IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SIT UP HERE KNOWING THAT WE LIVE IN THIS FREE AND INCREDIBLE LAND. TODAY. THERE'S SOME DIVISION TODAY WITH VOTING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK OUR VETERANS. BUT AGAIN, DON'T WAIT TIL VETERANS DAY TO THANK THEM.

THANK THEM EVERY DAY. WE'LL CHANGE IT UP. JUST A SECOND HERE. CLAIRE, WILL YOU JOIN ME DOWN FRONT? TOMMY, COME JOIN US, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR STEPS IN. GET THEM SOME COMFORTABLE SHOES. I HAD MINE IN PLACE. IS IT WORKING? IT'S WORKING. OKAY. SO TOMMY AND I, WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED CAMPAIGNING TOGETHER. REPRESENTATIVE GRIFFITHS. DOZIE, MYSELF. YOU. WE WERE ALL CAMPAIGNING TOGETHER AND REALLY STARTED BUILDING A BOND AND GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER. GOT TO KNOW YOUR FAMILY AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION, THE STAFF, THE CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY. YOU HAVE DEDICATED EIGHT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE, WHICH IS A LOT. AND JUST JUST A SMALL TOKEN TO SAY THANK YOU. AND YOU ENJOY YOURSELF AND CONTINUE TO SERVE.

I THANK YOU, MY FRIEND. THANK YOU BUDDY. APPRECIATE IT. GIVE ME A HUG. MY PLEASURE. I LOVE YOU, BUDDY. HAVE YOU? THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. WOW. WOW. THIS IS QUITE SOMETHING HERE. YEAH.

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BUT YOU ARE A TRUE STATESMAN. YOU'RE GOING TO BE HARD TO REPLACE. Y'ALL BETTER GET SOME BIG SHOES OUT THERE, DOUG. SO. BUT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE I KNOW YOU LOOK FORWARD TO SOME DEDICATION TO BAY COUNTY. THANK YOU. BILL. THANK YOU.

I BET YOU'VE HAD FROM BEHIND THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD BOTHER COMING BACK UP TO THE DAIS. WE'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, IF YOU NOTICE ON BOTH OF THOSE MAPS, WE'VE ALREADY GOT EAST PASS OPEN FOR YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AWESOME.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? I'M DONE. YOU'RE DONE. COMMISSIONER DOZIER, I THINK IT'S YOUR TURN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL START THE CLOCK. START THE CLOCK FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. YOU KNOW, IN MY COMMENTS FOR THE OLD PASS, I, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF ALLUDED TO THE DIFFICULTY WE'VE HAD WORKING, AND I USED THE PHRASE WITH THEM UP THERE. I THINK I SAID, BUT WHAT I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT IS, IS THE DEP, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF DEP HAS BEEN IS REALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PART HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. I DON'T WANT TO POINT OUT OUR WHEN I SAY UP THERE, I'M TALKING ABOUT TALLAHASSEE, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A I THINK WE HAVE A AN OUTSTANDING DELEGATION BETWEEN OUR REPRESENTATIVE GRIFFITHS AND OUR, OUR SENATOR. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT ANY CHALLENGES THAT WE WOULD HAVE WITH THIS COME FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EFFORT. I ALSO HAVE A LETTER THAT MIKE MICHAELS WANTED TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT, A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO ME, AND IT'S BASICALLY A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT THE CME GROUP THAT RAN THAT SCHOOL, THEY HAVE BASICALLY STARTED ANOTHER SCHOOL, THE SAINT ANDREWS BAY STEM ACADEMY. AND WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS TAKE IT FROM A PRIVATE INSTITUTION TO A CHARTER SCHOOL. AND PART OF THAT PROCES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE THAT ACCOMPLISHED. AND THEY'VE JUST ASKED FOR OUR SUPPORT WITH A LETTER OF SUPPORT. AND WHEN I WHEN THEY CALL ME AND TOLD ME, ASKED ME FOR IT, I TOLD HIM I THOUGHT IT'D BE BEST IF WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE THE BOARD AND DISCUSSED IT TO SEE IF THE BOARD WANTED TO SUPPORT THE EFFORT AND SO WE HAVE SIGN IT AND HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD GOING FORWARD TO OPEN THIS NEW SCHOOL CHARTER SCHOOL.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT LETTER AND SEE IF YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS IT AND VOTE ON IT. OKAY. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT. STEM BASED EDUCATION IS SOMETHING I THINK IS LACKING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY, NOT JUST HERE. BEING IN THE CONSTRUCTION FIELD, THE TRADES SEEM TO DIMINISH OVER TIME. THIS WOULD HELP. HELP THAT. AND IT WOULD HELP HELP THESE YOUNG PEOPLE COMING UP TO BE ABLE TO EARN, TO LEARN A TRADE OF SOME SORT. TO FURTHER THEIR CAREER AND INCREASE THEIR PAY. SO I'M I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT AT ALL. OKAY. AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB THERE YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY. WE JUST MAKE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE

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SOMEBODY WANTS TO. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. I THINK IT'S A GREAT, GREAT IDEA. OKAY, WE ARE IN SUCH NEED OF GOOD TRADESMEN, MASTER PLUMBERS. YEAH. REAL CABINETRY, REAL CARPENTERS. IT'S JUST. IT'S A DYING ART. AND IF WE DON'T SUPPORT BRINGING IT BACK, THEN IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL JUST LOSE AND IT'LL ALL BE. YEP. EXACTLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DOUG. DID ANYTHING. ARE YOU GOOD? YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER DOZIER. YES. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. HAM. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WHAT ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WELL, I JUST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND WHEN? WHEN I RAN A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS AGO, I HAD A LOT OF MY I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TELL ME THAT I COULDN'T DO IT. AND I SAID THAT I SAID, WELL, FIRST OFF, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. SECONDLY, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYBODY AND YOU ARE NOBODY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY SAID, YOU'LL NEVER GET ELECTED. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT DON'T LISTEN TO THE NAYSAYERS BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE IN LIFE THAT TELL YOU, TRY TO STOP YOU AND TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM. I DID RUN AND I DID GET ELECTED.

SO THERE YOU GO. AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY IN BAY COUNTY FOR VOTING FOR ME OVER THE YEARS. EACH ELECTION THAT CAME UP, I APPRECIATE THE VOTES THAT I GOT. THE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU SO THANK YOU. AND ROBERT TOLD ME BEFORE THE MEETING, HE SAID, NOW HE SAID, LOOK, HE SAID, YOU CAN'T CRY WHEN YOU MAKE THESE COMMENTS. SO NO CRYING IN COMMISSION. NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT.

CAN'T DO IT. SO MY TIME WORKING FOR BAY COUNTY HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. I'VE ENJOYED IT. AND SO I STARTED BACK IN THE EARLY BOTTLED WATER. STARTED BACK IN THE EARLY 80S. I WORKED FOR DIFFERENT ON STAFF 16 YEARS. PARKS AND REC, TRAFFIC CONTROL. THE SIGN SHOP, ROAD DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERING. AND EACH ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS WERE FANTASTIC. I ENJOYED WORKING FOR EACH ONE OF THEM. WE DID THAT FOR 16 YEARS AND I RAN FOR WHEN I WAS ELECTED, I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO SERVE WITH THE MEN THAT I SERVED. MIKE THOMAS, GEORGE GAINER, MIKE NELSON, JERRY GIRVIN, THOSE THOSE ARE THE MEN THAT WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN I GOT ELECTED. AND SO THEY ALWAYS REFERRED TO ME AS THE BOY. SO WHEN I GOT ELECTED, I WAS THE YOUNGEST ONE IN OFFICE, THE YOUNGEST ONE OF THAT GROUP. AND ANY TIME SOMETHING WOULD COME UP THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH, THEY SAID, WELL, JUST TELL THE BOY TO GO DO IT. AND SO I ENDED UP DOING A LOT OF THAT STUFF, AND THAT WAS FUN. THAT WAS THAT WAS GREAT. WE ENJOYED IT AND THEN GOT TO KNOW WHEN JERRY GERVIN MOVED ON. WE GOT JANELLE, TOOK HIS SEAT AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH GOT JANELLE. AND SO THAT WAS A GREAT GROUP OF MEN THAT THAT TAUGHT ME A LOT GROWING UP. AND SOME OF THE THINGS I CAN'T SHARE WITH YOU SO NOW I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF.

I'M GLAD I WROTE THIS DOWN. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THIS GROUP HERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST. THE BIGGEST THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME. Y'ALL CAN TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES IF YOU WANT.

SO. WHAT WE HAVE IS A GROUP OF. IT'S A, IT'S A CROSS REFERENCE OF, OF THE BUSINESS SENSE AND COMMON SENSE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SEE UP HERE. A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERTISE AND.

[01:35:15]

DOUG. DOUG, WOULD YOU STAND UP, PLEASE? THIS DOUG CROSBY, AND HE'S GOING TO BE SITTING UP HERE IN TWO WEEKS. SO I WANT EVERY ONE OF YOU TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE HIM THE SUPPORT THAT HE NEEDS.

AND IF NEED BE, GIVE HIM A HARD TIME AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE DOUG. HE'S GOING TO DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. I LOOK FORWARD TO HIM TAKING THIS SEAT. BUT THE PLEASURE THAT IT'S TOMMY HAMM, DOUG MOORE, GRIFF GRIFFITHS AND BILL KINSEL. YOU KNOW, JUST IT'S JUST AN OUTSTANDING GROUP. IT'S A NOW, I WENT FROM THE BOY TO THE OLD MAN. SO I'M LIKE THEY SAY, WELL NOW THE OLD MAN I'M THE OLDEST ONE UP HERE. SO THEY CALL ME. SO I'M THE OLD MAN. BUT BUT THE, THE COMMENT THAT I MADE ABOUT THE BUSINESS SENSE, THESE GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONALISM HERE THAT A LOT OF OTHER BOARDS DON'T HAVE. AND THEN CROSS-REFERENCED WITH THAT YOU HAVE THE COMMON SENSE. THEY REPRESENT THE BUSINESS. I REPRESENT THE COMMON SENSE. AND SO I'M SORRY, IT'S. BUT THEY DO THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. AND I'VE ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE OF SERVING WITH THEM. AND NOW I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IF I CAN MAKE IT THROUGH THIS PART. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR STAFF. GOSH, WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING STAFF. MOST PEOPLE THAT WE TALK TO, PEOPLE AROUND TOWN, THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WE DO UP HERE. WELL, WE REALLY DON'T DO THAT MUCH WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON WITH COUNTY BUSINESS BEHIND THE SCENES. THE WORK IS THE REAL WORK IS DONE BY OUR STAFF. AND SO OUR STAFF IS THE KEY TO ANYTHING THAT'S SUCCESSFUL IN BAY COUNTY. IT'S THE STAFF. BOB IS SECOND TO NONE. AS A COUNTY MANAGER. HE HAS HE HAS. HE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB LEADING BAY COUNTY AND I'M SURE BOB WOULD WOULD, I HOPE, BE COMFORTABLE WITH. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS, IS NOBODY ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES TAKING BOB AWAY FROM US, BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S A. AND THERE'S A. THERE'S A BUNCH. AND JUST I WAS GOING TO NAME A BUNCH OF STAFF, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE STAFF, I CAN'T NAME THEM ALL BECAUSE I WOULDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, JOEL SCHUBERT, SECOND IN COMMAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A SUCH A QUALITY STAFF WITH WITH BOB AND JOEL AND IT'S JUST IT'S JUST OUTSTANDING. WE HAVE DEPTH IN THE TEAM THERE. ANY WAY YOU LOOK ON OUR TEAM ON, ON, ON, YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THERE'S THEY'RE IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE, BUT YOU TAKE ANY ONE OF THEM, PUT THEM AT THE TOP OF THE SHIP, AND THEY CAN RUN THE SHIP. AND SO A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE GRANTS WE GET AND A LOT OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT COME IN AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE CONTRIBUTED TO KEITH BRYANT. KEITH, HE DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB. A LOT OF WHAT'S ACCOMPLISHED HERE IN THE OPENING OF THE BOTTLE. IS DUE TO KEITH.

PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE WORK THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT BUT HE I MEAN, IT'S JUST ASTOUNDING. THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT KEITH HAS BEEN ABLE TO FORM IN IN WITH DOT. AND IT PAYS OFF IN DIVIDENDS FOR THE REST OF US. HE MAKES OUR JOB EASY. AND AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO UP HERE

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THEY DO THE WORK AND WE GET UP HERE TO SAY, AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SAY YES OR NO. AND SO IT JUST CAN'T. CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH OF THE WORK WAS DONE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR LEGAL STAFF. LEGAL STAFF IS GOOD. THEY HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THE IN-HOUSE ATTORNEYS AND, YOU KNOW, AS AS DON LOOKS TO RETIRE, WE'RE GOING TO MISS HIM. BUT WE DO HAVE BRIAN COMING UP. HE'S DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB. LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT HE'S GOING TO DO FOR THE COUNTY AS IT'S ABOUT TO RUN OUT, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD. AND I MEAN IT IS SO MUCH MORE I COULD SAY, BUT JUST I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT REALLY THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE IS I, I BELIEVE GOD PUT ME HERE. AND I APPRECIATE HIM GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. AND I'LL STOP AND I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOING TO BE A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. OH GOODNESS GOODNESS GOODNESS. I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF SERVING WITH BILL FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND THE ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT GRIFF SAID EARLIER. BOB OR HE HAD, HE HAS PUT HIS HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS JOB AND AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, THE HE HE WENT AT IT WITH ENTHUSIASM, PASSIONATE. AND A LOT OF COMMON SENSE AND, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T GET THAT UP HERE. WE DO GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW. WHAT WE DO. AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MY, MY MOM IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS MORNING. ON MY LAST MEETING HERE AND BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE HAVE WE DO HAVE TWO NEW GUYS COMING IN AND BOTH OF THEM ARE HERE THIS MORNING. AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO GET TOO EXCITED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NEAR AS PRETTY AS BILL AND I. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO THAT. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW AND I YOU KNOW, AND CAMPAIGNING IS HARD. IT'S TOUGH. IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS I'VE I'VE EVER DONE. AND I HAVE PLAYED THAT WOULD PROBABLY RIVAL THAT AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO IT. A LOT OF WORK TO GET HERE. AND IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT IF YOU, YOU GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN. YOU CAN COME IN HERE AND SHOW UP TWICE A MONTH AND DO NOTHING. AND YOU'LL YOU WILL PRODUCE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. BUT THESE FOLKS THAT I HAVE WORKED WITH OVER THE YEARS. WE HAVE BEEN PRODUCERS THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF. I CAN LOOK BEHIND ME AND SEE ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF. THAT'S VERY COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT.

AND I'M AND I'M PROUD OF THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, I HAD A LOT OF MY SUPPORTERS, WHICH I GREATLY APPRECIATE, ALL THE SUPPORT. I GOT FROM ALL THE PEOPLE. EVEN EVEN THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE AND THE FRIENDS AND SUPPORT THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF BAY COUNTY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, OH, I'M LOSS, YOU KNOW, WE AS HUMANS

[01:45:13]

I'VE BEEN PART OF A BOARD THAT COLLECTIVELY, WE HAVE LEFT INDELIBLE MARKS AS WELL. COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED IN MY LIFE BEING ELECTED. AND TWO YEARS LATER, HURRICANE MICHAEL HIT.

THAT TO BE HONEST WITH PEOPLE, WAS WAS PURE HELL. IT WAS ON EVERYBODY HERE FAR EXCEEDED MY PERSONAL GOALS WHEN I WHEN I GOT ELECTED. I YOU KNOW, I HAD THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S LASTING, GOING FORWARD. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ABLE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS ABLE TO PERSONALLY GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND HAD I HAD AN IDEA THAT WAS WORTHY ENOUGH OF GETTING AN APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS COUNTY. THAT I, THAT I DID. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, IT'S VERY TOUGH TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND GET MONEY WHEN YOU LEAVE. IT'S. BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'VE DONE THAT EVEN MY OWN MOTHER DOESN'T REALIZE WHAT I'VE ACCOMPLISHED. BECAUSE I THINK AT TIMES WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE STAYED JUST KIND OF TRUE TO MYSELF. I'VE BEEN MORE OF A WORKHORSE. I'M NOT A SHOW HORSE. I DON'T BRAG ON WHAT I'VE DONE.

JAMIE, DON'T. IT'S JUST NOT. THAT'S JUST NOT ME. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SET HISTORICAL RECORDS LITERALLY HERE IN BAY COUNTY, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF THAT. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD THAT'S DONE THAT. AS I MENTIONED, HURRICANE MICHAEL EARLIER, THAT WAS HISTORICAL RECORD. COVID ANOTHER ONE. AND OUR REACTION TO COVID, I THINK AS THIS BOARD, WE SET THE TONE. THAT WAS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN A GREAT MANY OTHER PLACES IN THIS COUNTRY. WE WENT THE EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THEY WERE GOING. AND I THINK THAT TOO HAS PUSHED US FURTHER DOWN THE ECONOMIC SCALE AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, BECAUSE WE CHOSE TO STAY OPEN. AND WE SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES HAVE DONE, AND PEOPLE WILL. PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU WITH THEIR FEET WHETHER YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OR NOT. AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE IN DROVES. SO I THINK THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT OUR STAFF TOO, OF BEING ABLE TO RESPOND AND HANDLE THINGS LIKE WE DID WITH HURRICANE MICHAEL AND COVID FOREST FIRES. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS VERY TRYING TIMES. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE RECORDS THAT I HOPE ARE NEVER BROKEN. I HOPE WE HAVE ANOTHER DON'T HAVE ANOTHER HURRICANE MICHAEL, ANOTHER COVID. WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED ANOTHER LARGE FOREST FIRE. BUT THE FIRES WAS KIND OF BEGINNING FROM THE STORM. WE JUST KNEW IT WAS COMING BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH FUEL ON THE GROUND. IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE EVERYTHING GOT JUST RIGHT FOR IT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN PART OF A BOARD THAT BUILT A SPORTS PARK.

MAGNIFICENT, MAGNIFICENT ASSET TO OUR COUNTY. MR. ROWE HAS BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB RUNNING IT. IT HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE TOP PLACES IN THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO AS A DESTINATION TO, TO COME AND BRING YOUR KIDS TO PLAY GAMES, TO PLAY SPORTS. THE SKATE PARK, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF A PET PEEVE OF MINE. I REALLY WENT AFTER THE SKATE PARK. I THOUGHT, ALL THESE OTHER KIDS ARE PLAYING BASEBALL. THEIR SIBLINGS GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF A SKATE PARK AND IT WENT ON AND LO AND BEHOLD, WE HAVE A VERY, VERY NICE A NICE SKATE PARK. AGAIN, TO WHAT BILL SAID ABOUT KEITH. KEITH IS A SILENT

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FUTURE GENERATIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER. YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING THE WATERSHED. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT DEER POINT LAKE IS OUR GEM. THE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO CLAIM ABOUT THE BEACH AND THE TOURISM AND THE WHITE SAND AND YES, IT IS WHITE GOLD. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND PEOPLE COME HERE, BUT WITHOUT WATER, WITHOUT WATE, FOLKS, NONE OF IT HAPPENS. AND THAT'S WHAT DEER POINT LAKE DOES FOR US. WE HAVE A MASSIVE, MASSIVE SURPLUS OF WATER, 5 TO 600 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. GO OVER THAT DAM THAT WE DO NOT USE. WE'RE GOING TO BE STINGY. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ON TO IT. THAT'S ONE THING I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT SHARING IS, IS OUR WATER, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR GROWTH. THAT'S OUR FUTURE. THE BIG THING DOUG MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CRA, IT TOOK ME EIGHT YEARS, BUT WE FINALLY LASSOED THE IT DID. IT HAPPENED. AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE BOARD AND THE COMMISSION AT THE BEACH STARTED SEEING IT. THE WAY WE DID, THE WAY WE'VE BEEN SEEING IT SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED. TO BE ABLE TO GET LIKE MINDED ON A VERY ON A SUBJECT THAT IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. THERE WAS LITERALLY BILLIONS, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BETWEEN NOW AND 2049. THAT WILL NEVER BE COLLECTED FROM YOU, THE TAXPAYER. AND FOR THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD OF. I WAS VERY BOISTEROUS ABOUT THE CRA. AGAIN, AS BILL SAID, OUR STAFF NEGOTIATED. I THINK THE BEST WE COULD GET WITH THE CRA, AND THEY TO HAVE GOALS, THEY AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT NOW TO WHERE IT'S A WIN WIN. I THINK THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS OUT THERE. WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ONES HERE LIKE OUR RESERVE POLICY. LIKE MAYBE THE FACT OF BRINGING TAXES DOWN IN THE FUTURE INSTEAD OF GOING UP. ALL THOSE CRAZY THINGS LIKE THAT. SO BACK TO SOME COMMON SENSE, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESERVES AND LOWERING TAXES. WHO WHO WHO IN THE HELL WOULD WANT TO DO THAT? RIGHT? BUT. AND TO WHAT? BILL HAS SAID, AND AS WE'VE ALL SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE MET AND WORKED WITH SOME VERY WONDERFUL PEOPLE HERE. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I HAVE PROBABLY BEEN PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE IT WASN'T JUST CONFINED TO THE ADMIN FLOOR. IT WAS. IT WAS SPREAD OUT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, LIKE WITH KEITH DON MURRAY, GENERAL SERVICES. ALL THE OTHERS. MISS KAREN, THAT RUNS OUR PURCHASING. THE RISK MANAGEMENT. EVERY EVERY EVERY ASPECT. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE TIMES TO SIT DOWN WITH THOSE PEOPLE. AND IT'S JUST BEEN IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE SO FAR. I THINK YOU LOST. I DIDN'T LOSE, FOLKS. I'VE WON. I THINK I'VE CONSIDERED THIS A WIN FOR ME. THESE NEXT FOLKS COMING UP. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE AS REWARDING FOR THEM AS IT HAS BEEN FOR MYSELF. AND I'VE MET, I THINK, LIFELONG FRIENDSHIPS WITH THE FOLKS UP

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AND I HAVE LEARNED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. FROM BEING NON-ELECTED TO ELECTED. AND I HOPEFULLY WHAT I ALL THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED THAT WAS RECIPROCAL, I HOPE I WAS ABLE TO BOUNCE SOME THINGS AROUND THAT STAFF. MAYBE HOPEFULLY HAD LEARNED SOMETHING FROM ME, BUT I GUESS THAT WAS THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE BOARD FOR BETTERMENT. AND THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL AFTER IS, IS, IS BETTERMENT. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS. YOU KNOW, AND ALL THIS AND I MENTIONED IT EARLIER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD MY LIFELONG FRIENDS THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR 40 PLUS YEARS HAVE TOLD ME THAT BEING ELECTED, I DIDN'T CHANGE.

AND I GUESS I HAVEN'T, I, I STAYED TRUE TO MYSELF WHEN I GOT, WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR, I FELT LIKE I'M THE SAME TOMMY. THAT'S GOING TO WALK BACK OUT THE DOOR. I DIDN'T COMPROMISE ON MY MORALS, MY ETHICS, MY JUDGMENT. I DIDN'T DO THAT. IT TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK, JUST TO GET STAFF TO CALL ME BY MY FIRST NAME. THEY KEPT REFERRING TO ME, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER. AND I KEPT TURN AROUND, LOOKING BEHIND ME TO WONDER WHO WAS STANDING AND STANDING BEHIND ME BECAUSE I JUST NEVER I NEVER SAW MY. AND I STILL DON'T. I DO NOT SEE MYSELF. AS I DON'T SEE MYSELF AS A POLITICIAN WHEN I SAY THAT WORD, IT KIND OF GIVES ME THE JEEBIES. AND I JUST DON'T. I DON'T SEE MYSELF THAT WAY, EVEN THOUGH I GUESS I WAS ELECTED.

I'M GUESS I'M ABOUT THE MOST NON POLITICAL PERSON ELECTED TO A POLITICAL POSITION, BECAUSE THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW ME, KNOW ME WELL, AND I'M NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT AT ALL, AND AT TIMES I DO TEND TO VOICE MY OPINIONS. MAYBE WITH SOME COLORFUL LANGUAGE AT THE AT TIMES AS WELL TOO. BUT THROUGH ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M GOING TO WALK OUT THE DOOR. THE SAME PERSON THAT I WALKED WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR AND OUR DEDICATION THAT WE'VE DONE AS NOW WE HAVE IN THIS SIGNING CEREMONY AFTERWARDS, COMMANDER MOSLEY, I AM GOING TO BE VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SOLIDIFY THIS TODAY. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE WORKED ON FOR OVER A YEAR. I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF YOUR GOALS AS COMMANDER AND ONE OF MY GOALS AS CHAIR, AND FOR THAT I AM. THAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING I CAN ADD AS A WIN FOR ME. AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE NOT ONLY PERSONALLY DO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE MILITARY. I HAVE A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE THAT SERVED IN THE SEALS. HE RETIRED AS COMMAND MASTER CHIEF OF SEAL TEAM SIX. I AM MORE HONORED TO KNOW THAT MAN THAN I WOULD ANY PRESIDENT OF THIS UNITED STATES. BECAUSE OF WHAT ALL HE'S DONE.

THAT WE CAN SIT UP HERE AND ARGUE AND CALL EACH OTHER NAMES AND HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO SUCH, IS QUITE REMARKABLE. I GUESS, IN CLOSING. I HOPE THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE SERVED THE BOARD WELL. I'VE TRIED TO PUT THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY FIRST AND AT EVERY TURN. OF COURSE, BEFORE THAT, MY FAMILY WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST. SO THERE THERE'S THAT'S THAT'S JUST A GIVEN. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL THE SAME WAY UP HERE. OUR FAMILY IS GOING TO COME FIRST. BUT I HOPE I HAVE SERVED THE BOARD WELL. I TRIED TO THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT'S BEEN VERY REWARDING TO BE UP HERE AND TO EXPERIENCE BEING THE CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF TIME. THERE'S ANOTHER ELEMENT TO THIS. BEING CHAIR, DOES IT TAKES THERE ARE THERE ARE EXTRA DUTIES INVOLVED IN DOING IT AND IT TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO SO. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND DEDICATION, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ARE AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY. AND DOING THESE THINGS THAT WE DO. BUT AGAIN, IT HAS BEEN BEEN VERY REWARDING FOR ME. IT HAS BEEN A GREAT LIFE EXPERIENCE FOR ME. I'VE JUST

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IT'S IT IS JUST A LANDMINE WAITING TO HAPPEN. IT'S CAN DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT JUST DOESN'T. IT JUST DOESN'T. I PERSONALLY I'VE STAYED OFF OF IT AND STAYED AWAY FROM IT. THAT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. I CAN ONLY JUST THANK EVERYBODY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART OF BEING HERE AND BEING ABLE TO PUSH ON THINGS. AND NEVER ONCE DID WE EVER GET SIDEWAYS. EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT BE WANTING TO HEAR WHAT WE WANTED TO HEAR. BUT THAT'S PART OF GOVERNING IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET YOUR WAY ALL THE TIME, AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN IDEA, AND THEN YOU THEN I'VE GOT TO BOUNCE IT OFF. THESE OTHER FOUR UP HERE. AND THEN FOR THREE OF US TO AGREE ON MY IDEA OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IS CAN BE A HARD TASK AT TIMES BECAUSE YOU HAVE VERY CAPABLE, INTELLIGENT PEOPLE THAT WILL PICK YOUR IDEA TO DEATH AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE PLUGGED ALL YOUR HOLES BEFORE YOU GET UP HERE AND LEAN INTO THE MIC WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO PUT FORTH. SO THERE'S, AS BILL HAD MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF PRE-PLANNING THAT GOES INTO THESE THINGS. SOMETIMES AS LIKE TODAY WITH THIS SIGNING, THIS HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR IN THE MAKING. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S, AS THEY SAY. WE'RE VERY AND I'M VERY GLAD TO KNOW THAT THIS BOARD IS NOT A KNEE JERK BOARD.

WE HAVE NEVER BEEN THAT WAY. AND I DON'T I DON'T FORESEE IT CHANGING. KNEE JERK REACTIONS SOMETIMES ARE NOT ARE NOT GOOD ONES. MOST OF THE TIMES THEY'RE NOT. HASTE MAKES WASTE. AND I BELIEVE THAT TO SOME. AND WE'VE BEEN BEEN ABLE TO BACK UP AND LET COOLER HEADS PREVAIL AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S THE BEST THING WE CAN DO. BUT WITH THAT, I HAVE NO HEALTH. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. I'M. THIS DAY CAME VERY FAST. AS TIME AS WE KNOW. IT HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY THESE DAYS, JUST AS OUR PARENTS TOLD US, THE OLDER YOU GET, THE FASTER IT GOES. IT'S SO MUCH. IT IS SO TRUE. BUT I HAVE THOROUGHLY, THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT. AND I HAVE MET A LOT OF A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THE PROCESS. AND FOR THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. WITH THAT MEETING IS ADJOURNED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DO YOU WANT. YEAH. I WANT. I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. WHEN I, WHEN I WAS MAKING MY COMMENTS OR TRYING TO TRYING TO MAKE THEM, I DIDN'T MAKE THEM. BUT I FAILED TO MENTION A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY MADE OUR JOB. EVERYBODY'S UP HERE. JOB AND MY JOB, ESPECIALLY EASIER WAS SHERRY. YEAH. SHERRY. SHE'S. SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB. AND. AS AS FAR AS AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO TEACH ME HOW TO USE A COMPUTER. SHE'S GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO THERE BECAUSE SHE'S TRIED.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT THERE. BUT SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S ON TASK AND ALL LIKE THAT. AND TRULY ANOTHER BEHIND THE SCENES, YOU KNOW, SHE DOES. SHE DOES. SO MUCH BEHIND THE SCENES THAT THAT MAKES IT MAKES OUR JOB EASIER. AND POSSIBLE. THE OTHER ONE IS VALERIE. VALERIE HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. KEEPING US OUT OF TROUBLE. ONE ONE AREA. I

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I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO SAY THAT. AND SHE. SHE GUIDES US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND KEEPS US OUT OF TROUBLE. AND CALMS US DOWN. YOU KNOW, ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT THAT NEED TO DO, THAT NEED TO BE SPOKEN. BUT THESE TWO LADIES HAVE JUST BEEN OUTSTANDING THROUGH THE YEARS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM AS WELL. SO THAT'S ALL THAT I H

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