[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. HERE. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. WE'LL NOW HAVE AN INVOCATION WITH PASTOR MATTHEW MORGAN. WITH PALO ALTO CHURCH OF CHRIST, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH COMMISSIONER CARROLL. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, CREATOR OF ALL, WE EXALT YOUR NAME. WE PRAISE YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS AND YOUR LOVE FOR YOUR JUSTICE AND YOUR MERCY. WE THANK YOU FOR WALKING WITH US AND PROMISING US THAT YOU WOULD NEVER LEAVE US OR FORSAKE US. INSTEAD, YOU GUIDE US AND YOU GIVE US WISDOM. FOR THAT, WE'RE GRATEFUL. WE GATHER HERE TODAY AMONG THOSE THAT ARE ENTRUSTED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SERVING THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AS THEY MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THE LIVES OF THIS COMMUNITY. GRANT CLARITY OF MIND AND UNITY OF PURPOSE. HELP THEM TO APPROACH THEIR DISCUSSIONS WITH INTEGRITY, RESPECT, AND A GENUINE DESIRE FOR THE COMMON GOOD. MAY OUR ACTIONS REFLECT FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE AND COMPASSION FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN OUR COUNTY, ESPECIALLY THE LESS FORTUNATE. WE'RE REMINDED OF THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND GOD HELP US TO STRIVE TO HONOR THE VOICES AND NEEDS OF ALL PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER IN A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND HOPE. GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU BLESS OUR LEADERS AND THEIR FAMILIES WITH STRENGTH AND ENCOURAGEMENT. PROTECT THOSE WHO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY IN VARIOUS ROLES AND INSPIRE US TO ALWAYS SEEK WHAT IS TRUE AND HONORABLE AND RIGHT. GIVE US VISION TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE LEADING US AND CREATE, AND CREATIVITY FOR HOW WE MIGHT PARTNER WITH YOU IN MOVING TOWARDS THAT FUTURE. HELP US TO LOVE YOU AND TO TRUST IN YOUR WAY. IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR AL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY [APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)] ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN. I'VE HAD A REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 11 FROM CONSENT TO REGULAR FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, CAN I GET AN APPROVAL OR A MOTION ON THE AGENDA? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, [PRESENTATIONS] MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NOW, IF WOULD THE PERMIT TECHS PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STAND RIGHT UP HERE WITH ME? I APPRECIATE IT. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. WHATEVER WORKS. IS THIS ON? ALL RIGHT. Y'ALL GOTTA STAND WHERE THEY CAN SEE US. COME ON DOWN HERE. COME ON. STAND ALONE. OKAY. I THINK THEY WANT TO ALL BE ABLE TO SEE YOU. OKAY. SO THE BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE PERMIT TECHNICIANS IN THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION FOR ACHIEVING AN UNPRECEDENTED MILESTONE FOR BOTH BAY COUNTY AND THE DIVISION ITSELF. THE TEAM ATTAINED 100% SUCCESS RATE IN TESTING AND RECEIVED CERTIFICATION AS INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL ICC CERTIFIED PERMIT TECHNICIANS. FOLLOWING THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT, THESE CERTIFIED TECHNICIANS WERE PROMOTED TO THE POSITION OF PERMIT TECHNICIAN LEVEL TWO. THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES OF THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION HAVE EARNED THEIR INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL CERTIFICATE. THAT'S NOT EASY TO READ. KIRSTEN BHUSHAN, PENNY GREEN. YEAH. WAVE AT EVERYBODY. TABITHA NELSON, VANESSA GURGANOUS, TRACY RICHARDSON, SHEENA FOSTER, CATHY ELLIS, TIA MAYO, CHARLIE MCDERMOTT, AND PRISCILLA BUSH. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL AND THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE COUNTY. IF YOU ALL WOUL. SPEAK. NOW. THANK YOU. THANK [00:05:06] YOU. Y'ALL CAN RUN AWAY NOW. GO BACK TO THE. READY? ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS RELATED TO ANYTHING TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. MISTER COUNTY MANAGER, THE [CONSENT AGENDA] CONSENT AGENDA. YES, SIR. MISTER CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY UNDER THE CLERK OF COURTS. ITEM ONE. REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE. ITEM TWO FY 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET UNDER COLLABORATIVE SERVICES ITEM THREE, FY 2025 FDOT BLOCK GRANT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION. AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN AND EXECUTE THE FY 25 BLOCK GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $507,207. ITEM FOUR FY 2025 FDOT CORRIDOR GRANT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN AND EXECUTE THE FY 25 CORRIDOR GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THE AMOUNT OF $260,000. ITEM FIVE FY 2025 FTA SECTION 5311 GRANT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN AND EXECUTE THE FY 25 FTA SECTION 5311 GRANT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE AMOUNT OF $133,000 UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM SIX COUNTY ATTORNEY CONTRACT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE CONTRACT WITH BRIAN LIEBROCK AS BAY COUNTY ATTORNEY AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE SAME UNDER COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM SEVEN COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE APPOINTMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS TO VARIOUS COMMITTEES THROUGH 2025 UNDER GENERAL SERVICES. ITEM EIGHT, BAY COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION, ATHLETIC SERVICE, SURFACE CHEMICAL APPLICATIONS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD ITB 20 503 BAY COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION. ATHLETIC SURFACE, CHEMICAL APPLICATIONS TO BRANDON LAWN AND LANDSCAPE IN THE AMOUNT OF $93,939.12, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM NINE NEW ADA PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS NUMBER 16. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THE BOARD AWARD. INVITATION TO BID NUMBER 25. DASH 072 BEACHES CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $152,750, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER OUTSIDE AGENCIES. ITEM TEN PROJECT CLEAR TAX EXEMPTION SUPPORT RESOLUTION. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SUPPORT RESOLUTION TO OFFER A TEN YEAR REAL AND PERSONAL PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION TO PROJECT CLEAR AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN, SAYING UNDER PUBLIC WORKS ITEM 11, EMERGENCY SERVICES, CRIMINAL JUSTICE, CRIMINAL JAIL, SAFE ROOM, CONTRACT AWARD, THAT ITEM WAS MOVED TO REGULAR AGENDA. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING. AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A MOTION FOR APPROVAL IN A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, [Public Works] MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE GO TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11. EMERGENCY SERVICES, CRIMINAL JAIL, SAFE ROOM, CONTRACT AWARD. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THE BOARD AWARD. THE BASE BID TO CHARLES AND WHITE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE BAY COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES. CRIMINAL JAIL. SAFE ROOM IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,846,222, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. STAFF IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. CHAIRMAN, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. CERTAINLY. MR. BRYANT, COULD I ASK YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? YES, SIR. JUST A FEW THINGS. THIS WAS. I KNOW YOU ALL HAD A GOOD TIME READING THIS 996 PAGE CONTRACT DOCUMENT. I KNOW I DID. A FEW THINGS ONE, SO WE'RE BUILDING THIS SAFE ROOM, WHICH IS GREATLY NEEDED. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. BUT THE PENETRATION TO THE EXISTING, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES PENETRATING THROUGH THAT WALL LIKE WE DID AT THE JUVENILE JUSTICE IN THE COURTHOUSE. NO, SIR. THE ISSUES WITH THE COURTHOUSE WAS IT'S A 100 YEAR OLD STRUCTURE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DESTRUCTION. DESTRUCTIVE TESTING. I DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING THOSE ISSUES WITH THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE THE OLD PLANS ON THE JAIL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT SOMETHING CRAZY IN THOSE WALLS JUST BECAUSE IT IS A JAIL. AND I'M SURE WE DO. I'LL HAVE TO RESEARCH IT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I'LL HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE ARCHITECT. OKAY. ARCHITECT WAS [00:10:03] FLORIDA ARCHITECTS. OKAY. AND YOU SAW THE PRICING THAT CAME IN ON, WHICH IS? YES, SIR. SO I CAN SUMMARIZE THAT FOR YOU, SIR. I CAN SUMMARIZE THAT FOR YOU. THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS I NEVER WANT TO DO. A COURTHOUSE AND A JAIL. AND THIS IS BOTH SO IT'S THIS DURING A DARK SKIES. THIS IS A SAFE ROOM FOR JAIL STAFF DURING BLUE SKIES. THIS FUNCTIONS AS A FIRST APPEARANCE COURTROOM AND HAS JAIL FACILITIES IN IT. SO IT'S FULL SECURITY. IT'S FULL CAT FIVE, BUT IT ALSO HAS COURTHOUSE FUNCTIONS IN IT, SO IT'S EXPENSIVE. HOPEFULLY IT'LL BRING MAYBE OUR JAIL POPULATION. IT HAS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE JAIL POPULATION DOWN. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT AND JUST BEING A SAFE ROOM ALONE PROBABLY ADDS ANOTHER EXTRA HUNDRED DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT TO IT, IF I HAD TO GUESS. YES, SIR. I MEAN, THERE ARE 12 INCH WALLS AND SO STILL ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. YES, SIR. THERE'S ALL THE JAIL SECURITY FUNCTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE DESIGN, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE COURTHOUSE FUNCTIONS AND COMMUNICATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH THAT. A FEW THINGS. I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME CONTRACT. WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF BIDS ON THIS. I NOTICED WE ONLY HAD TWO BIDDERS. RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WASN'T ENOUGH LEAD TIME. THEY JUST DIDN'T CATCH IT. NO INTEREST. NOT SURE. AND I KNOW IT COST A BLOCK IS HIGH BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DEMANDED OUT OF TYNDALL. THAT'S NOT HELPING OUR SITUATION. RIGHT? THE OTHER ONE IS. THIS IS NOT ON YOU. THIS IS, I THINK, THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS SET UP. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE DO MORE OF A DIRECT PURCHASE, PURCHASE OF MATERIALS TO TRY TO HELP BRING COSTS DOWN. I'VE SPOKEN TO MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF IT JUST HE SAID IT ACTUALLY HELPS BECAUSE SOME OF THE SUBS, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THE MATERIAL. SO IF WE'RE BUYING THOSE MATERIALS, WE SAY WHEN THE SALES TAX, IT COULD HELP, YOU KNOW, GET MORE BIDDERS INVOLVED. SO I WOULD FROM A PURCHASING STANDPOINT AND CONTRACT PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE JUST THAT. EVERY PROJECT THAT WE PUT OUT TO BID, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO DIRECT PURCHASE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE? YES, SIR. OKAY, SI. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD CONTRACTOR. VERY GOOD CONTRACTOR. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ISSUES THERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? WELL, JUST ONE MORE THING TO MENTION. THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS ALREADY A CAT FIVE STRUCTURE. CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. WE HAD SOME ISSUES DURING HURRICANE MICHAEL, BUT THAT WAS DUE TO THE NATURE OF MICHAEL AND THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS ON TOP OF THE FACILITY HAS BEEN CORRECTED SINCE THE STORM. THERE'S NO NEED TO MOVE PRISONERS TO A DIFFERENT FACILITY. IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THE SAME. PRIMARILY THE SAME WAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEING BUILT. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON? ON THIS UNDERGROUND STRUCTURE? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? NO, SIR. NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 200FTâ– !S, 4200. OKAY. OKAY. THAK YOU. $177 A SQUARE FOOT. OKAY. GOOD THING. APPROXIMATELY. LEAVE IT TO THE ENGINEER. RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE. BECAUSE KEITH SAT DOWN. I DON'T THINK HE WANTED ANY MORE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTIO. SECOND. WE GOT A SECOND. WOULD YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COMMISSIONER CARROLL? YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL [Public Works] RIGHT. NEXT ON REGULAR AGENDA IS NUMBER 12. CONTRACT AWARD FOR COUNTY ROAD 2321. PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY. YES, SIR. SO THE BOARD ENTERED INTO A STATE FUNDED AGREEMENT ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023, WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO PRODUCE A PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY FOR THE WIDENING OF COUNTY ROAD 2321 FROM STATE ROAD 77 TO US 231. THE GRANT FOR THE PROJECT WAS FOR $3 MILLION. A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WAS ADVERTISED ON APRIL 15TH, 2024. FOUR PACKAGES WERE RECEIVED AND OPENED ON MAY 22ND, 20 2024, AND ALL FOUR FIRMS WERE DEEMED QUALIFIED. THE PROPOSALS WERE SCORED BY THE TECHNICAL EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND METRIC ENGINEERING HAS RECEIVED THE HIGHEST SCORE. THE REQUESTED MOTION WAS A AWARD CONTRACT. 24 DASH 15. COUNTY ROAD 2321. PROJECT DEVELOPMENT. ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY TO METRIC ENGINEERING, INC, IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,999,996.28, AND AUTHORIZE AND BE AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY CHANGES AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? YEAH, SURE. I'LL GO A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE ON HERE IS THE DAM, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO, I GUESS, WOULD BE A SEPARATE BRIDGE OR WE ANTICIPATE TAKING [00:15:05] TRAFFIC OFF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE. THEREFORE, LENGTHENING THE LIFESPAN OF THE DAM AND HAVING A MULTI LANE BRIDGE. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE ON THE FRESHWATER SIDE. YES. WHAT WE THINK. YES, SIR. IT'S EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT THE PD AND E WILL DECIDE. BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THE FRESHWATER SIDE. OKAY. SECOND QUESTION IS WHERE WE'RE DOING THE WORK AT TITUS, THE ROUNDABOUT AND ALL. IS THAT DESIGNED TO INCORPORATE TO BE FOUR LANED? YES, SIR. OKAY. YES, SIR. PERFECT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ONE? COUPLE OF THINGS. THE ONE AREA THAT I WAS TELLING YOU EARLIER, I WAS LOOKING FOR IS SIGNALIZATION ANALYSIS. SO IT HAD IT AS AN OPTION, BUT IT DID SHOW THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE STUDY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT OPTION WAS WHAT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR. BUT SIGNALIZATION. OKAY. SAY IT THREE TIMES. IT'S A TOUGH CHALLENGE. THE ADJACENT INTERSECTIONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE SIGNALIZATION. ONE WOULD BE KINGSWOOD'S ALREADY SIGNALIZED. THE NEXT WOULD BE THE MULTI-LANE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WE ARE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT. NO CONTRACT FOR DESIGN MOVING TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION. SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR SIGNALIZATION IN THIS PROJECT. THEY WILL LOOK AT THE EXISTING SIGNALS TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE ACTING AT CAPACITY. I CAN TELL YOU THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR, THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WOULD BE US. 231 AT 2321. THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE GREATLY IMPACTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE REALIGNMENT OF KNEE HIGH. SO THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE BROKEN OUT AND WORKED SEPARATELY. OKAY. WELL, MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT HAD OPTION. I WASN'T SURE WHAT HAD OPTION, BUT AND LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. AND CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT BE AWARE MAYBE HERE THAT AREN'T USED TO THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY WE BID THESE JOBS AS NORMALLY IF WE GET A JOB, IT'S LOW BID, THEY GET THE JOB PERIOD, AND THEN DIFFERENTLY, WE NEGOTIATE FOR THE BEST, THE BEST BID. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME OF THOSE THAT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS? YES, MA'AM. THE PRIMARY TWO MECHANISMS WE USE TO PUT WORK ON THE STREET IS RFQ REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, AND OUR RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT SET IN FLORIDA STATUTE UNDER CNA. CURRENTLY THE LIMIT FOR DIRECT AWARD WITHOUT DOING AN RFQ IS 7.5 MILLION FOR CONSULTING SERVICES THAT GOES UP EACH YEAR DEPENDING ON THE FEDERAL INFLATION RATE. PRIOR TO THIS, THIS SEVEN AND A HALF JUST PASSED. IT WAS 4 MILLION. WE ANTICIPATED THIS COMING IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN IT DID. AND SO WE DID AN RFQ, A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. WHEN WE DO A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, THAT'S JUST BASICALLY A LOW BID. BUT YOU'RE REQUIRED WHEN YOU HIRE A CONSULTANT, YOU CAN'T DO REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. YOU CAN'T GO BY PRICE. YOU HAVE TO DO QUALIFICATIONS FOR CONSULTANTS. IT'S A FLORIDA STATUTE. AND DO WE THINK THAT EVERYTHING IS ENCOMPASSED IN THIS $3 MILLION, OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL PARTS JUST FOR THIS CONTRACTOR TO DO? AND IF SO, HOW IS THAT HANDLED THE SAME WAY OR. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE ROADWAY WORK. I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE BRIDGE AND THE DAM STRUCTURE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT. THE DAM IS 67 YEARS OLD, 64, 67 YEARS OLD. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED. IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT WE'LL TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT IT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I'M SURE ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF THAT FACILITY, WHICH I WOULDN'T SUPPORT. I'D LIKE TO GET THE TRAFFIC OFF THE STRUCTURE AND MAKE THE STRUCTURE ITSELF LAST LONGER. I HAVE ONE MORE ONE MORE QUESTION UNDER THE EXISTING STRUCTURES, IT'S LISTING GAINER BAYOU BRIDGE, DEER POINT DRAWDOWN, AND DEER POINT LAKE BRIDGE. WHAT WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THE DRAWDOWN OF THE DEER POINT LAKE? THE DRAWDOWN IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DAM. IT'S THE FIRST. IT'S ON THE. I GUESS YOU'D CALL THAT THE. THE WESTERN SECTION OF THE DAM IS ACTUALLY THE DAM STRUCTURE, THE DRAWDOWN ITSELF AND THE REST OF THE BRIDGE FUNCTIONS AS THE DAM. BUT THE DRAWDOWNS ON THE WESTERN SIDE, IT'LL HAVE TO BE EVALUATED. THEY'RE CONSIDERED TWO DIFFERENT STRUCTURES. SO IT'S CONSIDERED IT'S IN THE. I JUST WONDERED WHAT WAS IN THE STRUCTURE. IT'S CONSIDERED ITS OWN. SO WE HAVE AS YOU KNOW, OUR BRIDGES ARE INSPECTED BY FLORIDA EVERY TWO YEARS. THAT STRUCTURE IS INSPECTED BY ITSELF. AND THE DAM THE REST OF THE DAM IS INSPECTED [00:20:04] BY ITSELF. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. IF I COULD ADD ONE. JUST CLARIFICATION. THIS IS BASICALLY STEP ONE OF THREE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. AND THEN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION RIGHT AWAY. WE GOT IT. WELL THEN FULL DESIGN TO BE DONE. YES, SIR. YES. AND THEN WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS, THIS IS BASICALLY TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WHAT THE OBSTACLES ARE, WHERE THE HURDLES ARE. THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ASK FOR THE FUNDING. YES, SIR. IT'S NOT A QUICK PROCESS. YES, SIR. WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE TIME FRAME. IF I WAS TO ESTIMATE A PDA AT THE FASTEST YOU CAN CONDUCT A PDA IS 24 MONTHS, AND THEN YOU GO INTO DESIGN, WHICH IS AT LEAST ON A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE, 24 MONTHS. THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, AND THEN ACCUMULATING THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. I'D SAY A MINIMUM OF TEN YEARS. ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THAT TEN YEARS TO COMPLETION? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? TEN YEARS TO I WOULDN'T SAY COMPLETION TO START OF CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND THE $3 MILLION, I GUESS THAT'S FACTORED IN WITH INFLATION OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIME PERIOD TO THAT SET. WELL, THE PDA HAS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASES OF THE PROJECT. SO THE PDA WILL DETERMINE THE BEST ROUTE FOR THE PROPOSED WIDENING. HOW TO HANDLE THE BRIDGE. THEY'LL DO ARCHEOLOGY SOUND STUDIES, ENVIRONMENTAL ENDANGERED SPECIE, ALL THAT'S PART OF THIS. SO THE THREE. 3 MILLION GRANT WILL GET US THROUGH THE PDA AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO DESIGN. BUT YOU CAN'T BEGIN DESIGN WITHOUT THE PDA. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAD SPOKEN WITH YOU YESTERDAY. I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PDA STUDY ON 23, 21 AND TO SIGNALIZATION, I THINK ONE OTHER ITEM WOULD BE 2311 AND WHERE IT COMES IN, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES ON THE EASTERN SIDE RIGHT THERE NEAR DEER POINT ELEMENTARY. AND EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING AS WELL. BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GET WHEN I WAS TALKING TO SOME CITIZENS ABOUT WE WERE STARTING TO DO THIS STUDY ABOUT FOUR LANING WAS ASKED ABOUT 390 BETWEEN 231 AND 77. AND WHILE WE WEREN'T ADDRESSING THAT, IF YOU WOULD JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 390 IN THAT SECTION, IF YOU WOULD. YES, SIR. SO STATE ROAD 390 FROM 77 TO US 231, WHICH IS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE WIDENING OF 390 IS A STATE ROAD. SO THAT'S A STATE PROJECT. THE STATE IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN. THEY ANTICIPATE HAVING 60% DESIGN PLANS IN MARCH OF 25, WITH THAT BEING SAID, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION ARE NOT FUNDED. OKAY. AND THEN YOU JUST WITH THE OTHER QUESTIONS, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND YOU ANTICIPATE WITH THIS IS PDA BETWEEN BASICALLY 25 AND 26, 26 AND 27 BEING DESIGN. AND THEN IF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE AND CONSTRUCTION STARTING SOMEWHERE AROUND 2032 OR SO. YES, SIR. YOU STILL HAVE THAT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PHASE, WHICH ON THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND FUNDING FOR RIGHT OF WAY AND FUNDING FOR DESIGN. RIGHT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. NONE OF THOSE ASPECTS ARE FUNDED. CORRECT. GENERALLY, THE WAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WORKS WHEN IT COMES TO PDA DESIGN, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION, ONCE THEY START, THEY GENERALLY DON'T STOP THERE. THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PARTNER WITH BAY COUNTY, AND ONCE THEY THAT TRAIN LEAVES THE STATION, THEY KEEP IT ROLLING. WELL, THEY WERE A GREAT PARTNER WHEN IT CAME TO KNEE HIGH AND BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE 20, THE 231 EXPANSION AS WELL. SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT SECRETARY GAYNOR AND HIS STAFF DID TO WORK WITH US ON THAT ONE AS WELL. YES, SIR. SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS THE LAST ONE IS WE TALKED ABOUT FUNDING. HOW SOON DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS IN FRONT OF TPO AND START GETTING IT HIGHER UP THE BOARD, JUST FOR PRIORITY PURPOSES FOR DOT TO START LOOKING AT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. NOW THAT WE HAVE A FUNDED PDA WOULD BE THE RIGHT TIME TO START LOOKING AT DESIGN FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT. KIND OF HEADING THAT CHARGE AT TPO. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU KEITH. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. AND CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION. SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY. PUBLIC [PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)] COMMENT. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE WHICH CITIZENS THINKS THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY [00:25:06] OVER. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD MORNING. REX LEE REED, 202 GULF LANE. I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GOOD THANKSGIVING. I ATE TOO MUCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ON ME. SO LAST MEETING I SPOKE WITH YOU ABOUT FUNDING FOR THE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM VIA LEGISLATIVE FINDING FROM WALTON COUNTY FROM ABOUT 19 YEARS AGO. SO I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AND SEE IF A IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. AND B, I ALSO NOTICED IN THE LAST MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE, PART OF THE REASON THAT WE CAN DO THIS AND DO IT WITHOUT IMPACTING THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT FOLKS, I ADVERTISING IT WAS IN THE LAST AGENDA. YOU GOT A $2.5 MILLION GRANT FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND THAT I BELIEVE, BROUGHT THE TOTAL IN NEW MEXICO BEACH UP TO ABOUT 14 MILLION. THIS IS EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME WE DO A BEACH RESTORATION. WE GET GRANTS FROM THE STATE AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO THE TDC, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, Y'ALL ARE NICE ENOUGH TO PUT ON, HAS $145 MILLION IN THE BANK. SO IT SHOULD NOT BE ANY LEVERAGE AGAINST THEM IF YOU WILL, TO FUND THE ENTIRE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. THIS WILL ALSO HELP BECAUSE YOU WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW OUR CIT, OUR FAIR CITY BURDENS THE JAIL SYSTEM AS WELL, AND A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT TO WHAT THEY'RE GETTING. THIS WILL HELP KEEP OUR TAXES LOW, RIGHT? KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE LOW, AND ALSO SPREAD THE LIABILITY. AND I HATE TO USE THAT WORD, BUT IT'S BETTER FOR, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WHEN SOMEONE IS SPENDING SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY, IT'S BETTER FOR THEM TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR THE RESULTS. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT AS WE SPEAK NOW. PEOPLE SPEND MONEY AND THEY HAVE NO HOW SHALL WE SAY, CONCERN WITH THE ACTUAL RESULTS. THIS WAY THE TDC IS RESPONSIBLE IF YOU WILL, FOR MAKING SURE THE TOURISTS ARE SAFE BECAUSE THESE ARE COMPETING INTERESTS. YOU WANT. WE WANT TO KEEP OUR ROADS AND OUR CITY SAFE AND BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THAT BY PICKING UP THE COST, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM. I SENT YOU SOME STUFF YESTERDAY. THE ACTUAL FINDINGS FROM THE WALTON COUNTY. AND SO IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. WHY I THINK THIS IS NECESSARY. IF YOU EVEN CARE. JUST. IT'S A JOKE. WE CAN LAUGH. WE CAN LAUGH HERE. IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY TO LAUGH. IT'S NOT. NOT THAT SERIOUS. BUT PLEASE DO. WE'RE STILL GOING TO PURSUE GETTING THE LEGISLATURE TO UP THAT PUBLIC SAFETY SPENDING TO 10%. THIS IS A SHORTER PATH, AN EASY PATH THAT YOU CAN TAKE DIRECT ACTION. I THINK IF WE GOT THAT, THEN I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY WOULD FEEL LIKE THAT. THE TDC IS PICKING UP THE BURDEN THAT THEY'RE PLACING ON THE TAXPAYERS, I.E. THE TOURISTS. WE WANT THEM TO KEEP COMING. I LOVE THEM HERE PERSONALLY. ANY QUESTIONS OR THANK YOU. NO. NO QUESTION, NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ILLEGAL. YOU PASS A MOTION, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SCARED. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? FRIDAY MORNING. HOW'S EVERYONE TODAY? WELL, EVERYONE PROBABLY DID EAT TOO MUCH TURKEY. I DIDN'T. I HAD HAM, SO. BRENDA LEWIS WILLIAMS, 1007 NORTH CENTER AVENUE, PANAMA CITY, FLORIDA. FIRST, I HAVE SOME KUDOS. I ATTEND SEVERAL MEETINGS ACROSS THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AND I'M NOT BLOWING SMOKE, I DON'T DO THAT. THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE EFFICIENT MEETINGS I HAVE BEEN IN ATTENDANCE OF. I'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND IT'S MANAGED EFFICIENTLY. I LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU, THE CITY MANAGER, PRESENTS EVERYTHING BECAUSE WHAT THAT AFFORDS IS EXPEDIENCY. AND CITIZENS ARE NOT HERE FOR THREE AND 4 OR 6 HOURS OF THE DAY. I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU. I TRULY DO NOW WHY I'M HERE. WE'RE JUST GLENWOOD REVITALIZATION PROJECT INC. PUTS ON BLACK HISTORY FESTIVAL EVERY YEAR. AND SO I'M HERE LOOKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FINANCIALLY AND HOWEVER THAT MAY BE, IT COULD BE IN-KIND, IT COULD BE ACTUAL DOLLARS. I WILL FOLLOW THIS CONVERSATION THAT I'M HAVING RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS TO BE ONE SIDED, BUT I WILL FOLLOW THIS WITH AN EMAIL TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU DELINEATING WHAT WE DO AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE. THIS IS JUST TO APPRIZE YOU OF WHAT [00:30:09] WE'RE COMING TO YOU FOR. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MISS BRENDA. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. SEEING NONE AND COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NO REPORT, MR. CHAIRMAN. COUNTY [CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS] MANAGER'S REPORT. NOTHING FROM STAFF. MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER CROSBY, JUST WANT TO REWIND EVERYONE THAT THIS THURSDAY EVENING AT 5:00, WE'RE HAVING THE COUNTY TREE LIGHTING AND SANTA WILL BE HERE ALL. RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER RAPHAEL, I WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TO THE PARADE THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING ON ON SATURDAY. COME OUT AND ENJOY YOUR COMMUNITY. SANTA CLAUS IS COMING. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER CROSBY SAID, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TREE OUT FRONT THAT WILL LIGHT UP AT 505. NOT 510, NOT FIVE, BUT 505. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS THERE. THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER PEACE, JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ARE NO LONGER IN SUNNY FLORIDA. THE WEATHER HAS GONE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. I KNOW EVERYONE HAS ON COATS AND HATS AND GLOVES. PLEASE REMEMBER TO BRING IN YOUR ANIMALS. I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL COLD WEATHER COMING. MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE. THEY'RE STAYING WARM AND INSIDE DURING THIS WEATHER. THE OTHER THING IS ROBERT HAD BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD THOUGHT ON US BIDDING THE MATERIALS ON THE BID LIKE WE BID LARGE ORDERS OF MAYBE PICK UP TRUCKS AND ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON A, ON A WHAT IS THE WHAT IS IT CALLED, BOB, THAT WE UTILIZE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONSORTIUM OR STATE CONTRACTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ALREADY COMPETED AND WE CAN PURCHASE RIGHT DIRECTLY OFF OF THOSE. SO SOMETIMES I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE ARE THE BEST PRICING. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO BACK AND CHECK SOME OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT US BEING, ALWAYS BEING A PART OF THOSE IS THE MOST BENEFIT. LIKE, CAN WE WALK IN AND BUY A TRUCK FROM A LOCAL DEALER, YOU KNOW, AT A DISCOUNT ALSO? SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT. AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF US PURCHASING THE MATERIAL, BECAUSE THEN THE CONTRACTOR DOESN'T HAVE TO PUT THEIR PERCENTAGE ON TOP OF THE MATERIAL, JUST ON, ON THEIR LABOR. BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TAKE SOME OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS IN-HOUSE. WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE, AND I THINK WE'RE HOPEFULLY WORKING TOWARD A RESOLUTION ON TRYING TO REALLY CUT SOME DOLLARS ON SOME OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS BY DOING THEM IN-HOUSE. AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE GREAT STAFF AND ABILITY TO DO THAT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING INVOLVED IN THAT AND SEEING HOW WE CAN SAVE SOME DOLLARS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, SIR. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT THANKSGIVING. I KNOW WE DID GREAT TO HAVE SOME FAMILY TIME. IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT WE DO HAVE THE TREE LIGHTING HERE. THURSDAY, SATURDAY MORNING WE HAVE THE LYNNHAVEN PARADE AT 9 A.M. SATURDAY EVENING IS THE PANAMA CITY PARADE, WHICH GOES DOWN HARRISON AVENUE. AND THEN NEXT SATURDAY, PANAMA CITY BEACH WILL BE CELEBRATING THEIR HOLIDAYS WITH A PARADE. SO HOPE YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT, CELEBRATE, SEE SANTA AND JUST AN ABSOLUTE GREAT TIME. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND SEEING THAT MY STUFF THAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT HAS BEEN NOW COVERED BY EVERYONE, I WILL SAY MEETING ADJOUR * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.