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CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING THE FIRST ONE OF 2025 JANUARY 7TH, 2025 TO ORDER. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. THE INVOCATION TODAY IS BY DOCTOR WARREN DRAKE OF BEACHSIDE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER CROSBY. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE JOIN STAND. THANK YOU. LET'S BOW OUR HEADS AND WORD OF PRAYER. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL PEOPLE. WE'RE THANKFUL THAT WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST NATIONHIS WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN. THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE LIVE IN A TIME OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY, AND WE'RE ESPECIALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT WE LIVE IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND DESIRABLE PLACES TO LIVE, RIGHT HERE IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA. THEREFORE, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THESE PROCEEDINGS, THAT THE WORDS THAT ARE SPOKEN, THE IDEAS AND OPINIONS THAT ARE EXPRESSED, THE SUGGESTIONS GIVEN, THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE, WOULD ALL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR WILL, YOUR PLAN AND YOUR PURPOSE, AND THAT IT MIGHT BE OF GREAT BENEFIT TO YOUR PEOPLE AND THIS COMMUNITY. THIS WE PRAY IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE HAVE NO
[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]
PRESENTATIONS TODAY, SO WE CAN GO TO APPROVAL OF AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A APPROVAL? MOTION TO APPROVE. AGENDA. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER.CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS FOR ANY ITEM THAT IS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NONE. CONSENT AGENDA. YES, SIR.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY UNDER THE CLERK OF COURTS. ITEM ONE, REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES AND CLERK AND CHECK REGISTRY. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE.ITEM TWO FY 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.
ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET UNDER COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM THREE BOARD APPOINTMENTS, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. REVIEW AND APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS OR REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE VARIOUS COMMISSION APPOINTED BOARDS UNDER GENERAL SERVICES. ITEM FOUR HVAC PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH DAIKIN, APPLIED IN THE AMOUNT OF $157,175 FOR HVAC PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND BE AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. THAT MOTION. SECOND. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SORRY, I THOUGHT SOMEONE MADE. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL.
YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN
[County Attorney]
MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA. FIRST IS PUBLIC HEARING. COUNTY ATTORNEY BRYAN LEBRYK. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. THE BAY COUNTY CODE HAS RESTRICTIONS ON TATTOO ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE TOURIST CORRIDOR. AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL EXCLUDE MEDICAL SPAS FROM THE DEFINITION OF TATTOO ESTABLISHMENTS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN CAN YOU DEFINE TO US WHAT A MEDICAL SPA IS? IT'S DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S BASICALLY A FACILITY THAT'S UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A OF A OF A PHYSICIAN THAT PROVIDES A RANGE OF KIND OF COSMETIC SERVICES. AND INCLUDING SOME TECHNIQUES THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE LIKE PERMANENT COSMETICS THAT.THAT INVOLVE THE SAME. THAT ARE TECHNICALLY TATTOOS BUT DO NOT INVOLVE THE, LIKE, BODY ART SORT OF TATTOOING. IF YOUR WIFE OR YOURSELF WANT TO GET YOUR EYELINER DONE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO A TATTOO. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY CONVERSATION?
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ANY MORE QUESTIONS? PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS? CAREFUL.YOU MIGHT GET YOUR OTHER FOOT. GOES DOWN HILL. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS JOHN HONECK. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS AND INNOVATION FOR TECH FARMS AND STRATEGY ONE MANAGEMENT. WE OWN AN OFFICE BUILDING ON PANAMA CITY BEACH, AND WE HAVE A POTENTIAL TENANT WHO IS IN THE MEDICAL SUPPORT BUSINESS. THE ONLY THING SHE DOES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS MOTION AT ALL IS SHE FOR CERTAIN KINDS OF PATIENTS, SHE DOES THE PERMANENT EYELINER TYPE THING, BUT SHE ALSO WORKS UNDER DOCTOR'S DIRECTIONS TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN BURNED, TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW TO PUT ON MAKEUP, TO HIDE THEIR WOUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SHE'S BRINGING A BUDDING PRACTICE TO PANAMA CITY BEACH FROM NEW JERSEY, WHERE SHE EMPLOYED OVER A DOZEN PEOPLE, AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. AND WE THINK THAT HER PROGRAM OR HER BUSINESS WILL FIT IN WELL IN OUR FACILITY. WE HAVE A PSYCHIATRIC PRACTICE. WE HAVE A CHIROPRACTIC PRACTICE. WE HAVE A COUNSELOR THAT'S THERE, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER ENTREPRENEURS AND FOLKS LIKE THAT. AND THIS WOULD BE A VERY COMPATIBLE BUSINESS, AND I WOULDN'T BE HERE BEFORE YOU IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING DISREPUTABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THAT'S TRUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOCTOR. ANYONE ELSE GOING UP THE HILL IS MUCH HARDER THAN DOWN, ISN'T IT? NO OTHER CONVERSATION. NO MORE FROM THE PUBLIC. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL.
YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES,
[Planning & Zoning]
MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PLANNING AND ZONING. WAYNE PORTER. THIS IS APPEAL FOR PLANNING BOARD VARIANCE DENIAL. RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST THE BOARD TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.AND CONSIDER WHETHER TO SUSTAIN OR OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING BOARD. DENYING VARIANCE REQUEST. POF R 2024 0271. WAYNE. I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GREGORY. GREGORY. LA PLANTE HAS APPEALED A UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUS DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY A VARIANCE ALLOWING A FRONT SETBACK VARIANCE TO PERMIT A POLE BARN WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. THE FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS 20FT. THE STANDARD FOR APPEAL IS THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD ONLY OVERTURN A DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL, COMPETENT EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE AN ERROR IN ITS DECISION THAT FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROVIDED THE BOARD WITH THE RECORD OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT VIDEO OF THE MEETING IS AVAILABLE ON THE BAY COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER THE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, VARIANCES CAN ONLY BE GRANTED IF THEY ARE NOT CONTRARY TO PUBLIC INTEREST, AND IF ONLY TWO CONDITIONS PECULIAR TO THE PROPERTY INVOLVED AND NOT THE RESULT OF THE ACTION OF THE APPLICANT. LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODE REGULATION WOULD RESULT IN UNNECESSARY AND UNDUE HARDSHIP. A HARDSHIP IS DEFINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS A PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTIC OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY SUCH AS SIZE, SHAPE, ELEVATION, ETC. THAT CREATES PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES FOR THE USE OR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. THOSE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE THAT A THE VARIANCE SHALL NOT AUTHORIZE CHANGES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, OR THE DENSITIES AND ALLOWABLE USES ASSOCIATED THEREWITH. BE THE APPLICANT. APPLICANT MUST CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE AND SHOW THAT THE HARDSHIP IS UNIQUE TO THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, AND IS NOT SUFFERED BY ADJACENT OR NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. C THE HARDSHIP RELATES TO THE LAND INVOLVED RATHER THAN THE APPLICANT'S PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES. D THE HARDSHIP IS NOT THE RESULT OF THE APPLICANT'S OWN ACTIONS. AND E THE VARIANCE, IF APPROVED, IS THE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO PROVIDE REASONABLE BENEFICIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY INVOLVED. THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR SHOWING SUFFICIENCY FOR UNNECESSARY OR UNDUE HARDSHIP SHALL BE CLEARLY SHOWN BY THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT MUST PRESENT CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT THE STANDARDS SET FORTH ABOVE HAVE BEEN MET. IN THIS CASE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDED THAT A THE APPLICANT HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED THAT THE HARDSHIP WAS WAS UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY. THERE IS NOT PROPERTY DETAILS THAT STAND OUT AS UNIQUE WHEN COMPARED TO NEARBY PROPERTIES, AND B THE REQUEST DOES NOT RELATE TO THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES AND LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PROPERTY INVOLVED. IT APPEARS TO RELATE MORE TO THE APPLICANT'S PERSONAL PREFERENCES. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
CHAIRMAN. YES? I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT TO MY PERSONAL RESIDENCE. WAS THAT. DO
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YOU HAVE A COPY? WAS HE. DID HE COPY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON THAT AS WELL? IT WAS, BUT IT WAS JUST IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. I THINK WE ALL HAVE RECEIVED THE SAME LETTER, AND I BELIEVE A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR THE RECORD, BUT NOT SURE IF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECEIVED THE SAME. IT WAS A LETTER FROM THEM JUST TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS AND A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT DISCUSSING. I'M NOT I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT LETTER. OKAY, SO WE ONLY RECEIVED THOSE. OKAY.THAT SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY COME TO YOU AS WELL. NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A COPY. HAVE ALL RESOURCES BEEN EXHAUSTED? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO HAVE A CARPORT WITHOUT THE VARIANCE PROCESS? YEAH, THERE'S LOCATIONS ON THE PROPERTY THAT HE COULD PLACE THE CARPORT. THE POLE BARN HAS BEEN USED AS A CARPORT THAT WOULD MEET THE CURRENT SETBACK REGULATIONS.
IT'S JUST THE APPLICANT DOES NOT WISH TO PLACE IT IN THOSE AREAS. AND WOULD IT HAVE TO BE ATTACHED TO THE HOME BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. THERE APPEAR TO BE ANOTHER STRUCTURE. WHEN I WENT TO THE PROPERTY, THERE APPEARED TO BE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THERE, AND OUR CODE SAYS YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE IN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF. SO WOULD IT HAVE TO BE ATTACHED TO A BUILDING TO NOT BE AN ACCESSORY? IF IT IS ATTACHED TO THE PRIMARY HOME, THEN IT IS NO LONGER AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. IT IS PART OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE. OKAY, IF IT WERE PLACED LIKE ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IT COULD BE ATTACHED OR DETACHED. THERE'S ROOM THERE FOR IT TO MEET THOSE THOSE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS THE SAME, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. SO IF THE VARIANCE WERE APPROVED OR NOT, IF, IF ASSUMING IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE DENIED, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. HE COULD STILL DO THE SAME THING HE WANTS TO DO. IF THIS VARIANCE HAD BEEN APPROVED. OR IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION IS OVERTURNED AND IT'S PLACED IN THE FRONT YARD AREA, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ATTACHED TO THE HOME.
OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JUST HE HAS ROOM TO ATTACH IT TO THE HOME, I GUESS IS THE QUESTION. SINCE YOU'RE SAYING HE HE WOULD HAVE TO ATTACH IT, THERE IS ROOM TO ATTACH IT TO THE HOME ON THE SIDE. YARD ON THE SIDE? YES.
WELL, I MEAN, IF HE PUTS IT ON THE SIDE, THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ATTACHED EVEN WITH THE OTHER BUILDING. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. IT'S JUST THAT HE WANTS TO PUT IT IN THE FRONT. IT'S JUST THAT IT WANTS THE DESIRES TO PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD AREA. SO YOU HAVE TWO ISSUES THERE. THE BUILDING SETBACK, THE FRONT SETBACK OF 20FT. IF IT'S ATTACHED, YOU HAVE TO MEET THE 20 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK. IF IT WAS DETACHED, THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THEN IT'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. ACCESSORY. ACCESSORY STRUCTURES CANNOT BE PLACED IN THE FRONT YARD AREA.
SO THAT'S THE VARIANCE THAT WAS REQUESTED. ONLY REQUESTED THE DEVIATION TO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK COULD BE PLACED IN THE SIDE YARD. IT COULD BE PLACED IN THE SIDE YARD, AND IT COULD BE DETACHED OR ATTACHED. AND YOU CAN HAVE TWO DETACHED BUILDINGS. YOU COULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE BUILDING. CORRECT DETACHED ACCESSORY. AS LONG AS YOU AS LONG AS YOU MET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU DON'T EXCEED ISR, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. I THOUGHT YOU ONLY COULD HAVE ONE. OKAY. NO, YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THE PURPOSE HERE IS TO DETERMINE IF THE PLANNING BOARD. WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO US ABOUT THAT AND EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT CONSIDER HERE AS AN APPEAL, AS MR. PORTER CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED, THE THIS IS AN APPEAL. AND SO. YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO LOOK AT THE RECORD FROM THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING AND THE DOCUMENTS PROVIDED AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY MEET AN ERROR. AND IT'S THE OBLIGATION OF THE APPLICANT THAT YOU'LL HEAR FROM IN A SECOND TO CONVINCE YOU THAT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD MADE AN ERROR.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRIAN, WITH THAT, WOULD THE APPELLANT LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK? GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. MAY I APPROACH YOU TO THIS? MY NAME IS GREGORY LAPLANTE. MY ADDRESS IS 202 FAN DRIVE, PANAMA CITY BEACH. THAT IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME. I'M UNDER DOCTOR'S CARE FOR SINUS HEADACHES, STUFF LIKE THAT. HAVE A BRIEF STATEMENT AND THEN ALSO A BRIEF LEGAL STATEMENT AS WELL. DEAR
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COMMISSIONERS, MY WIFE AND I HAVE RECENTLY REQUESTED BUILDING PERMITS TO INSTALL A STEEL 145 MILE PER HOUR, 20 BY 20 ENGINEERED POLE BARN. EXCUSE ME? TO BE USED AS A CARPORT ON AN EXISTING CONCRETE DRIVEWAY AT OUR PERSONAL HOME LOCATED 202 FAN CORRAL DRIVE, PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA. AND THAT IS IN UNINCORPORATED BAY COUNTY IN THE NORTH LAGOON DRIVE AREA. I'VE EXPLAINED TO THE PLANNERS THAT DUE TO THE ODD SHAPE OF MY CORNER LOT, NUMEROUS UTILITIES AND TREES ON MY EAST SIDE, I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER POSSIBLE LOCATIONS AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT RIGHT THERE ON THAT MAP IF YOU'D LIKE TO. THE REASON FOR OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLE. MY WIFE AND I ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A SHADE PROVIDED BY THIS PROPOSED CARPORT. BECAUSE OF OUR CURRENT AGE OF 67 AND 65, RESPECTIVELY. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS SKIN CANCERS AND SKIN SURGERIES, AND OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED AT DERMATOLOGY ASSOCIATES. EXCUSE ME, DERMATOLOGY SPECIALISTS OFFICE BETWEEN 3 AND 6 MONTHS. DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS. OUR YEARS OF FUN IN THE SUN HAVE NOW TURNED INTO FREQUENT DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS AND SURGERIES. I'M A MECHANIC AS WELL. I DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF AUTOMOTIVE WORK IN MY DRIVEWAY ON OUR FAMILY VEHICLES AND MY GRANDSON'S CAR, AND THE BLAZING SUMMER SUN HAS MADE THIS IMPOSSIBLE. ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, THE BLAZING SUMMER SUN IS ACTUALLY BURNING THE PAINT, TRYING TO MELT THE PLASTIC ON THE INSIDE OF OUR CARS BECAUSE OF THE ODD SHAPE OF MY CORNER LOT. NUMEROUS UTILITIES AND TREES ON MY EAST SIDE. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS CARPORT UNFORTUNATELY REQUIRES A MINOR CHANGE TO THE FRONT SETBACK LINE, AND THAT IS MY PROBLEM. WE DO HAVE WIDE EASEMENTS AND PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THIS CARPORT IN THE DRIVEWAY. MY PERMITS HAVE BEEN DENIED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I'VE EXPLAINED AND ILLUSTRATED THIS PROBLEM TO THE PLANNING STAFF, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY UNSYMPATHETIC. AND IN MY OPINION, WE'VE HAD SOME HARSH TREATMENT. THE BAY COUNTY COMMISSION ROUTINELY APPROVES HUGE CHANGES TO THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ENTIRE SUBDIVISIONS AND LARGE PROJECTS.THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK. THESE HUGE CHANGES PROVIDE JOBS, GROWTH, EMPLOYMENT, INCREASED TAX REVENUE, ETC. AND ARE A WONDERFUL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE PEOPLE OF BAY COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THESE LARGE CHANGES. I SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY MY MINOR CHANGE TO A FRONT SETBACK LINE HAS GENERATED RESISTANCE. I HAVE ONE OF THE NICEST HOMES IN OUR SUBDIVISION.
I BUILT MY HOME 30 YEARS AGO. I'M ON VERY GOOD TERMS WITH MY NEIGHBORS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF CONTAINS, EXCUSE ME, HUNDREDS OF HOMES. AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, REALLY, THERE IS ONLY ONE OBJECTION TO THIS IMPROVEMENT BY A PERSON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MY FAMILY OWNS MILLIONS OF IN BAY COUNTY. REAL ESTATE, PAYS LARGE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAXES, AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. MY WIFE AND I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE A YES VOTE ON THIS MINOR ISSUE. THIS WILL ALLOW ME TO NOT GET BURNED ALIVE IN MY OWN DRIVEWAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND NOW I DO HAVE A BRIEF LEGAL ARGUMENT. THE SECTION 208 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS CLEARLY STATES THE APPLICANT MUST CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE AND SHOW THAT THE HARDSHIP IS UNIQUE TO THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, AND IS NOT SUFFERED BY ADJACENT OR NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT THERE. I HAVE AN ODD SHAPED LOT. THIS FACT IS CLEARLY SHOWN BY THE SITE PLAN, THE SUBDIVISION PLOT PLAN, THE PHOTOS, THE BAY COUNTY GIS, THE AERIAL PHOTOS, THE BAY COUNTY APPRAISER MAPPING, AND THE STATEMENTS OF THE OWNER AND BUILDER OF THE HOME. WHO IS ME? I BUILT THIS HOUSE MYSELF 30 YEARS AGO. I'M A FORMER LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND A STATE CERTIFIED BUILDING CONTRACTOR. I WAS A FORMER REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, AND AM A STATE CERTIFIED MASTER PLUMBER. I KNOW THIS PROPERTY LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 30 YEARS. THERE ARE WELL ESTABLISHED IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE, THERE ARE WELL-ESTABLISHED TREES, THERE ARE POWER LINES, THERE ARE SEWER LINES, THERE ARE PHONE LINES. THERE ARE CABLE TV LINES. THERE'S A MAIN WATER LINE TO A FIRE HYDRANT AND OTHER WATER LINES ON THIS ODD SHAPED LOT, WHICH CLEARLY REPRESENT A HARDSHIP TO MY WIFE AND I, AND OUR USAGE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. ALSO, I DO NOT HAVE ANY DRIVEWAYS OR DRIVEWAY PERMITS ON THE EAST SIDE. ALSO, IT IS SIMPLE TO PLACE THE POLE BARN IN THE DESIRED LOCATION OF MY EXISTING DRIVEWAY. IT IS A HARDSHIP TO TRY TO PLACE IT
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AMONG NUMEROUS UTILITIES WHERE STAFF WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MY PROPERTY WOULD HAVE IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. IF NOT, ONCE AGAIN, MY WIFE AND I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE A YES VOTE ON THIS VARIANCE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, RATHER. MR. PLANT, AND I THINK THE LETTER YOU JUST READ IS THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO PERSONAL RESIDENCE. CORRECT? YES, SIR. I DID SEND THAT TO ALL YOUR PERSONAL RESIDENTS TO SIMPLY ILLUSTRATE THE PROBLEM TO YOU AND TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP. SURE. YES, SIR. NO, SIR, NO, SIR. I DIDN'T KNOW TO DO THAT. I'M NOT AN EXPERT AT THIS. I DO MECHANICAL WORK, AND I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SIMPLY SEND THIS INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS SO THAT THEY COULD SEE IT AND UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. UNDERSTOOD. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY, THERE APPEARS TO BE MULTIPLE STRUCTURES THERE. ARE THOSE ALL PART OF THE HOME OR. YES, SIR. I BUILT MY HOME.LIKE I SAID, I WAS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, BUILT MY HOME 30 YEARS AGO. ALL THESE STRUCTURES ON THE SIDE, THEY'RE ALL PERMITTED LONG AGO. AND APPARENTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS AS TIME GOES ON AND IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS, AS TIME GOES ON, THERE'S MORE AND MORE RESTRICTIONS IN BUILDING THINGS AND JUST TREMENDOUSLY. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, THE LAST THING I BUILT WAS 30 YEARS AGO. AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, HOUSES WERE WERE WE WERE BUILDING HOUSES, BUT I JUST BUILT A FEW. BUT I MEAN, OTHER PEOPLE BUILDING HOUSES, THINGS ARE MUCH LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN THEY ARE TODAY. NOW EVERYTHING IS MUCH HARDER, MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. AND IT'S HAD A NET EFFECT OF JUST PRICING PEOPLE RIGHT OUT OF THE MARKET. WHEN I BUILT MY THAT HOUSE, IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, $150,000, AND NOW IT'S LIKE THREE TIMES AS MUCH. BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THINGS HAVE BECOME HARDER, MORE EXPENSIVE AND EVERYTHING. AND IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT SIDE, THERE'S A CORNER LOT TO THE LEFT SIDE OF MINE, AND THAT IS A REGULAR SHAPED ALMOST LIKE A SQUARE CORNER MINE IS ALMOST TRIANGULAR, AND BECAUSE OF THE ODD SHAPE OF THAT, YOU'RE VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT YOU CAN DO. IT CAN BE CLEARLY SEEN ON THE ON ON THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE. IT IS AN ODD SHAPED CORNER. AND LIKE I SAY, YOU'RE JUST CLEARLY RESTRICTED. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TRIANGLE. SURE. YES. WELL YOU HAD TO PRESENT ALL THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD. AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MAKE THE DETERMINATION. AND BASICALLY WE'RE JUST HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FOLLOW THE RIGHT PROCEDURE. DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. YES, SIR. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE? YES, SIR. BASICALLY TO LISTEN TO AND.
YES, SIR. AND ONCE AGAIN, I WAS IT'S SIMPLY A HARDSHIP. AND YOU KNOW, THEY MEAN WELL BUT THEY DON'T KNOW. BUT ALL THE EAST SIDE, ALL THE UTILITIES ARE OUT THERE, THE SEWER LINES, THE POWER LINES, THE CABLE LINES. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HAD THEM PUT IN 30 YEARS AGO, I KNOW THE PROPERTY LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. AND THEY'RE ALL UNDERGROUND, THOUGH, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THEY'RE ALL UNDERGROUND, SO YOU CANNOT SEE THEM. BUT I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE ALL OF THEM ARE. THEY'RE ALL OVER THAT PLACE. AND WHEN YOU PUT IN A POLE BARN, THIS THING HAS GOT THESE BIG POLES, AND THEY GO IN THE GROUND THREE FEET. AND SO YOU'RE POKING AROUND SEWER LINES, POWER LINES, MAIN WATER LINES TO A FIRE, JUST ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT THEY DO NOT SEE AND THAT THEY DO NOT KNOW. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT ON THE SIDE YARD. NO, SIR.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE SAID, TO PUT IT ON THE SIDE. AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, SIDE YARD. I CAN'T USE THAT. I HAVE ALL THE UTILITIES. I DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAY PERMITS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
AND THERE'S WELL ESTABLISHED TREES ON THE SIDE YARD. THEY KEEP TELLING ME, PUT IT ON THE SIDE, YOU CAN'T DO IT. YOU JUST CAN'T. AND THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT, I GUESS.
BUT THE TREES YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE THE TWO PALM TREES. CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE FOR 30 YEARS. OKAY. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE, BUT THE MAP SHOWS IT. MY GOAL IS THAT. YES, SIR. AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE PLANNING BOARD DID WHAT DID THEIR JOB. AND IF FOR SOME REASON IT IS NOT APPROVED, THEN YOU STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. THAT WAS JUST. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AND THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU. YES, SIR. AND SEE, WHAT HAPPENED WAS I SPOKE TO THE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, AND THEY WERE VERY NICE ABOUT IT. THEY SAID, LOOK, I EXPLAINED MY PROBLEM AND I SAID, SIR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I'M TRYING TO I DESPERATELY NEED TO SHADE WHATEVER. AND THEY SAID, GREG, OKAY, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TO FILE A VARIANCE AND YOU TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DECISION, YOU HAVE WHAT THEY CALL TWO BITES OF THE APPLE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEIR DECISION, SIMPLY TAKE IT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND SEE IF THEY WILL HELP YOU WITH IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I DID, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. AND THE SHADE IS FOR LEISURE, PLEASURE OR TO WORK ON CARS OR. NO, BOTH, SIR, I DO LIKE I MENTIONED, I DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK IN MY FAMILY CARS, MY WIFE'S CAR, MY
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DAUGHTER'S CAR, MY GRANDSON'S CAR. AND ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU LEAVE CARS IN THE HOT SUN AND GOD FORBID, YOU LEAVE A CHILD IN A CAR OR AN ANIMAL IN A CAR OR WHATEVER, THIS SUN IS SO STRONG DOWN THERE, IT JUST BURNS THE PAINT OFF YOUR CARS. IT MELTS THE PLASTIC ON THE INSIDE OF YOUR CARS. IT IS A REAL HARDSHIP. I'M ATE UP WITH SKIN CANCER. MY WIFE IS ATE UP WITH SKIN CANCER. MY DAUGHTER IS A CANCER SURVIVOR. IT'S JUST HORRIBLE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST ME. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING'S GOTTEN HOTTER. YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST 30 YEARS, WE USED TO GO OUT IN THE SUN ALL DAY LONG AND NOT THINK NOTHING ABOUT IT. AND NOW I CAN'T GO OUT THERE FOR 20 MINUTES WITHOUT GETTING BURNED ALIVE. AND. AND. YES, SIR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DO USE THE DRIVEWAY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HAVE TO DO SOME MECHANICAL WORK ON MY ON OUR FAMILY VEHICLES. MY DAUGHTER'S FLAT BROKE. SHE'S GOT THREE KIDS. HAD TO FIX HER CAR, MY GRANDSON'S CAR, STUFF LIKE THAT. YES. THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. I HAD ONE QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE HERE? IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DETACHED FROM THIS PHOTO, BUT IT'S A LITTLE. YES, MA'AM. TO SEE. ARE THEY. ARE THEY. ARE THEY? YES, MA'AM. I CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. IF YOU IF YOU ALLOW ME. THEY'RE ALL PERMITTED. IT WAS DONE A LONG TIME. 30 YEARS AGO. THE RULES WERE NOWHERE NEAR AS STRONG. THEY HAVE, LIKE A LITTLE POOL HOUSE KIND OF THING. AND I HAVE, LIKE A LITTLE CARPORT KIND OF THING. AND I HAVE, LIKE A PATIO COVER. AND THEN IN THE BACK WE HAVE THE SAIL SHADES, YOU KNOW, THE TEMPORARY SAIL SHADES, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF THE SHADE. IT'S JUST BURNING US UP. I MEAN, I WAS JUST I GUESS THERE'S NO WAY TO USE ANY OF THE. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR BUILDINGS ON THE SIDE AND THEN THE SHADE STRUCTURE. I GUESS THAT'S OVER THE POOL, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. THERE IS A SAIL SHADE THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE DONE 30 YEARS AGO. EVERYTHING WAS PERMITTED 30 YEARS AGO, JUST A LONG TIME AGO.UTILIZE ONE OF THOSE FOR YEARS. NO, MA'AM. IT'S LIKE EVERY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. WE JUST FULL OF STUFF. YOU KNOW, I CANNOT WORK ON CARS OVER THERE. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. BUT WE JUST. WE JUST HAD HAD TO HAVE THE SHADE, AND I GOT, LIKE, LITTLE GARAGE THING ON THE SIDE AND ALL THAT. BUT IT'S PERMITTED LONG AGO. AND YOU CAN SEE THE ODD SHAPE OF THE CORNER, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE A REGULAR CORNER RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT. OKAY. ELSE I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. YES, SIR. MR. WOOD, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE BOARD AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING HAVE GIVEN YOU AN ALTERNATIVE RESOURCE TO PUT THIS BUILDING VERSUS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT? NO, SIR, I WOULD NOT, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THEY DO NOT THEY SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE UTILITY ASPECT OF THAT. AND WHEN THEY AND WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THIS SIDE, I'M LOOKING LIKE, WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HOW, WHERE. AND I USED TO BUILD HOUSES AND I KNOW THE PLACE. I DON'T HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVES. AND ONCE AGAIN, ALL THE UTILITIES ARE OVER THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU CAN'T GO POKING HOLES IN THE GROUND WITH MAIN SEWER LINES AND WATER LINES AND POWER LINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE OVER THERE, AND IT IS ALL BLOCKED. AND YOU CAN SEE THE, YOU KNOW, VERY LIMITED SPACE ON THAT SIDE, THE EAST SIDE OF MY PROPERTY IS ALMOST, ALMOST USELESS. I MAINTAIN IT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE LAWN AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IT'S USELESS TO ME. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONERS. DISCUSSION. I'M SORRY. NO, I DID NOT. PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO COMMENT? RECORD. WE DID HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR THAT APPEALED OR. THAT'S CORRECT. PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE DID RECEIVE ONE EMAIL FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS OBJECTING TO THE REQUEST BEING APPROVED. AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD BASICALLY DID THEIR JOB ESSENTIALLY. OKAY. THE DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTION OR.
THESE ARE ALWAYS DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT WANTING TO HAVE SHADE. WE'VE ALSO GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A EIGHT YEARS UP HERE. I THINK WE'VE HEARD TWO APPEALS ON VARIANCES, WHICH IN THE FIRST EIGHT YEARS I DON'T THINK WE HEARD ANY. SO WE'VE GOTTEN A FEW OF THEM THAT DIDN'T LIKE THE DIRECTION OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
HOWEVER, WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE. IS THERE
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ANYTHING THAT THAT THERE'S A HARDSHIP WANTING TO HAVE A CARPORT IN THE FRONT YARD? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT IN OUR CODE. SO YOU HAVE TO PROVE THE HARDSHIP. FORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES HE CAN ACHIEVE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. IT'S NOT THE FIRST PATH HE WANTS, BUT ANYWAY. I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND THE HARDSHIP. THAT'S THAT'S THE HARD PART THAT I HAVE WITH ANY VARIANCE IS WHAT IS THE HARDSHIP. YOU CAN'T CREATE THE HARDSHIP. ASK ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION. IS HE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER DRIVEWAY PERMIT TO COME IN THAT OTHER SIDE? SHOULD HE DECIDE THAT HE WANTS TO PUT IT IN THAT AREA? AND I GUESS THEY COULD HE GET A UTILITY COMPANY? HE COULD APPLY WITH OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES DEPARTMENT FOR THE SECONDARY DRIVEWAY. I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED OR APPROVED, BUT THAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE. WE DO SEE EXAMPLES, ESPECIALLY ON CORNER LOTS WHERE. PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A DRIVEWAY ACCESS ON EACH OF THE ROAD FRONTAGES. SO THAT IS THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT OUT THERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE ANOTHER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OR QUESTIONS FROM? SO MY RIGHT SIDE OF THE DAIS, I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER CLAIR SAID. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A SECONDARY DRIVE IN, PUT IN, IF THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE FOR YOU. I KNOW YOU DON'T. IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, MR. LAPLANTE, BUT THAT'S WITHIN OUR OUR RULES. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER CARROLL SAID, OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THE PROPER GUIDELINES TO MAKE SURE WE HAVEN'T VIOLATED OUR CODE. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, SIR, AS A BOARD. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, PERSONALLY SPEAKING. DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY WANT WHAT'S FAIR TO YOU, BUT DEFINITELY WHAT'S FAIR TO THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN IT. YES, SIR. IF IT PLEASE THE COMMISSIONERS, IT IS NOT AN OPTION I HAVE. NO, I CANNOT DO IT. AS I POINTED OUT, THE HARDSHIP IS THE ODD SHAPE OF THIS AND ALL THESE UTILITIES OUT THE SIDE. I KNOW THE HOUSE LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULD NOT EVEN TRY TO GET DRIVEWAY PERMITS. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP RIGHT THERE, IT JUST DOES NOT WORK AT ALL. THE UTILITIES, THE HARDSHIP IS ACTUALLY THE SHAPE OF THE LOT. IT'S YOU'RE JUST LOCKED IN AS TO WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO. AND NO SIR, I WOULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO GET SOME TYPE OF DRIVEWAYS ON THE SIDE OR IT JUST DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. THANK YOU.WITH THAT, I'LL ASK. I MEAN, IS IT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE MAPS AND LOOKING KIND OF CONTEMPLATING WHERE THEY ARE, BUT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, I WOULD ASK, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON WHAT WAS DONE BY THE PLANNING BOARD? BAD SET BACK FOR THIS. SIDE SETBACK FOR EITHER A ATTACHED OR DETACHED STRUCTURE WOULD BE FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
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AND I'LL CALL THE QUESTION I MEAN, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR AND A SECOND, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHETHER TO UPHOLD WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID OR TO REVERSE THEM? MOTION, MOTION FOR TO KEEP WHAT THE COUNTY HAS PUT IN PLACE. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THING. SO TO SUSTAIN, SUSTAIN IT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. HAVE A MOTION TO SUSTAIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. COULD WE HAVE A BIT MORE DISCUSSION. SURE. I'M JUST WONDERING IF MR. LAPLANT HAS LOOKED AT THE SIDE SETBACK TO SEE IF THERE IS POSSIBLY SPACE TO PUT THIS. ON THE SIDE AND NOT BE INTO THE. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS DRAWING THAT HE'S DONE IS IT DOESN'T SHOW THESE OTHER BUILDINGS. SO AND LET'S SEE THE.YEAH. WHAT I'M SAYING HERE. THERE'S A WAY TO PUT IT RIGHT HERE. THE BOTTOM RIGHT SIDE BOTTOM RIGHT. YEAH. BOTTOM RIGHT SIDE. IT LOOKS LIKE HE WOULD HAVE MAYBE ENOUGH SIDE SETBACK TO NOT HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP THE GARAGE IS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING.
ON THE CARPORT THERE. YEAH IT SORT OF DOES. BUT IT'S NOT ON THIS DRAWING. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY ON THAT SIDE SETBACK? IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL IN THE PICTURE. IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE THERE IS, BUT THERE DOES LOOK LIKE THERE COULD BE SPACE THERE ON THE SIDE. NO, MA'AM, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ANY THERE IS NOT ANY OTHER SPACE FOR THIS. AND I CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE ANY ROOM ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE FOR IT, AS THEY HAVE SUGGESTED. IT'S SIMPLY NOT AN OPTION. THE FACING THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE THE RED FENCE IS BEHIND THAT RED FENCE. IS THERE ROOM RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA? NO, MA'AM. I CAN ASSURE YOU I BUILT THE HOUSE. I KNOW IT EXTREMELY WELL. NO, MA'AM. WE ARE AT WIT'S END. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER SPACE. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE. IT'S SUCH AN ODD SHAPED LOT THAT YOU'RE JUST REALLY TIED INTO NOTHING. AND SO I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED. OH, PUT IT ON THE SIDE WHERE YOU SIMPLY CAN'T DO IT. I DO NOT HAVE THE ROOM FOR IT. BELIEVE ME. I KNOW THE HOUSE VERY WELL. I BUILT IT A VERY LONG TIME AGO. AND IF, IF, HONESTLY, IF I WERE TO GET A NO VOTE ON THAT, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE PUT UP TEMPORARY STRUCTURES. THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE THAT I'VE GONE WITH IS A CAT FIVE STRUCTURE. THIS IS VERY STRONG. I DON'T BUILD THINGS THAT ARE WEAK THAT WILL BLOW AWAY LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS DO. THERE ARE SOME TEMPORARY THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, AND BELIEVE ME, THEY ARE JUST THEY'RE JUST AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
AND SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'VE COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. EXCUSE ME? THE COUNTY COMMISSION. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT I AM AT WITS END. IF YOU DID NOT ALLOW ME TO DO IT, I'D SIMPLY WOULD HAVE TO SCRAP THE PROJECT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS, AND THAT'S WHY I'VE HAD TO EXHAUST THESE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME. HAVE YOU PURCHASED THIS STRUCTURE ALREADY? YES, SIR, I HAVE. WHAT I DID WAS I BOUGHT IT AND I PUT IT IN MY DRIVEWAY, AND THEN I APPLIED FOR THE PERMITS FOR IT. AND THAT'S WHERE MY SURPRISE CAME IN. THERE ARE MANY TIMES PEOPLE WILL BUILD THINGS IN THEIR YARD. NO PERMITS, NO NOTHING. WHATEVER. I GOT THIS, I HAD IT IN THE YARD, AND I DID NOT ANTICIPATE HAVING ANY TROUBLE WITH IT. I WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH JUST GETTING THIS, THIS DONE AND GETTING SOME SHADE AND THIS TYPE OF STUFF. AND I DID NOT REALLY ANTICIPATE THIS TYPE OF TROUBLE OR HARDSHIPS WITH IT. BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THIS WHENEVER YOU HAVE ODD SHAPED PROPERTIES.
IT REALLY PUTS YOU IN A IN A BIND AS TO WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE NUMEROUS UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT JUST REALLY PUTS YOU IN A BIND. I MEAN, THIS
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IS OBVIOUSLY A CHALLENGE. I AM GRATEFUL THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THE CHALLENGE BEFORE US IS WHETHER, AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.THEY WERE UNANIMOUS IN THEIR DECISION, AND I'LL HAVE TO SECOND THE SUSTAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. LAPPIN. THANK YOU. SIR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
COMMISSIONER RAYFIELD. YES, COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE WHICH THE CITIZENS BELIEVE. THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY OVER.
IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NO REPORT.
WELL, SECOND VERSE, SAME VERSE. COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT. NOTHING FROM
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STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS START WITH COMMISSIONER CROSBY. WELL, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AND WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY NEW YEAR.STAY WARM. ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER PEACE. I HAVE NO COMMENTS TODAY. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER HATFIELD. OH YEAH I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A HAPPY NEW YEAR AND A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS.
ENJOYED SOME FAMILY TIME. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU IF YOU HAVE NOT. THE COUNTY IS PUTTING UP WARMING STATIONS. I WILL BE VOLUNTEERING THURSDAY FROM 2 A.M. TO 6 A.M. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, PLEASE GO AND VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME AND HELP OUT LOCALS THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO STAY WARM IN THIS COLD WEATHER AND GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO LOVE ON PEOPLE. GO OUT AND SEE FOLKS.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. BUT THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, SIR. JUST A FEW THINGS.
ONE, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALICIA. SHE IS MOVING INTO THE DEPUTY ROLE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE'LL BE BRINGING ON BEVERLY MCALLISTER BROWN. SHE WILL ALSO BE JOINING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO WE ARE BACK TO BEING FULLY STAFFED. STILL WAITING ON BRYAN'S REPORT. I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GIVE US ONE EVERY SINGLE TIME HE'S UP HERE, BUT WE'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE. WE'VE GOT A FEW THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON BOARDS FOR US. WE APPROVED THAT IN OUR AGENDA EARLIER. EVERY DIFFERENT BOARD THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE ALL VOLUNTEER BASED AND JUST WANT TO THANK THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE. THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE AND DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO BAY COUNTY. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE WOULD LET YOU KNOW, BUT IF ONCE YOU VOLUNTEERED AND SIGNED UP, WE WILL ACCEPT YOU ON THE BOARD. SO THANK YOU ALL. I WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AT RIVER CAMPS ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, EVE AND NEW YEAR'S EVE AND DAY AND THEREAFTER, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THE TIME AND RESOURCES OUT THERE. WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MY GOOD DEAR FRIEND OF A QUARTER OF A CENTURY OR MORE, CLAIRE IS HAVING A BIRTHDAY TOMORROW, SO IF WE COULD ALL SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CLAIRE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE RECOGNIZES HER SPECIAL DAY TOMORROW. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BRUISE AFTER THE MEETING IS OVER WITH. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THOSE ON THE VARIOUS BOARDS THAT SERVED JUST THE FOUR DIFFERENT ONES WHERE WE HAD APPOINTMENTS FOR, FOR LAW LIBRARY, THE LIBRARY BOARD, THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD AND SURTAX. FOR THOSE OF YOU CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE AND ASSIST THE GREATER COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. I DO WANT TO PUT FORWARD A THANKS TO ALL THE DIFFERENT STAFF AND DEPARTMENTS THAT RESPONDED TO THE ISSUE AT RIVER CAMPS AND THE WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THAT. GETTING IN FRONT OF THAT AS QUICKLY AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON, STILL ASKING QUESTIONS, STILL WORKING THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT VERY APPRECIATIVE OF STAFF DOING WHAT THEY DID. LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH YOU ALL ON 2025. ONE QUESTION I HAD THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT. WE EACH SERVE ON VARIOUS BOARDS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'M PUBLIC SAFETY COORDINATING COUNCIL. WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, EMERALD COAST REGIONAL COUNCIL, WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT BOARDS. I'M THINKING, I CAN'T THINK OF YOURS RIGHT NOW. ON THE TRIUMPH. I WAS WONDERING IF WE MIGHT NOT EACH OF US THAT SERVE ON THOSE BOARDS EACH QUARTER MAYBE REPORT OUT TO
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THE BOARD WHAT'S GOING ON AT THOSE MEETINGS SO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS CAN HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE REALMS, ASK QUESTIONS OF Y'ALL, BE ABLE TO RELAY THINGS BACK SO WE CAN SERVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THAT ONE. SO IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, I'LL WORK WITH STAFF AND WE'LL KIND OF QUEUE UP SO EVERYBODY WILL KNOW, AND WE'LL KNOW WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE AND KIND OF START WORKING THAT INTO EACH OF OUR NOT NECESSARILY EVERY COMMISSION MEETING, BUT PROBABLY ONCE, ONCE A MONTH. WE'LL WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE IF THAT WORKS FOR Y'ALL.YEAH. SPREAD THEM OUT. YEP. SPREAD THEM OUT. SO WELL
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