Mar 18, 2025 Board of County Commissioners

[CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FROM TUESDAY, MARCH 18TH TO ORDER. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR JOSHUA GAY WITH HIGH PRAISE WORSHIP AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY ANTHONY WORKMAN WITH VETERANS SERVICES. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME.

LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU TODAY FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING IN AND SERVING IN BAY COUNTY, A COMMUNITY RICH IN RESILIENCE, GENEROSITY, AND NATURAL BEAUTY.

AS WE GATHER, WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE OVER THIS MEETING. BLESS OUR COMMISSIONERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY FAMILIES, AND EVERY CITIZEN FROM OUR BEACHES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. STRENGTHEN US TO CONTINUE TO BUILD A SAFE, THRIVING, AND UNITED BAY COUNTY. MAY RESPECT COOPERATION AND YOUR WISDOM. GUIDE US TODAY IN THIS MEETING AND IN THE DAYS AHEAD. IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISTER COUNTY ATTORNEY. NOW, MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION. SECOND. SECOND.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL.

YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE HAVE

[PRESENTATIONS]

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. IS THIS ON NOW? THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. MISS WATTS, COME JOIN ME.

IT'S YOUR FAVORITE PART. THIS IS MISS TANYA WATTS. WE ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE HER TODAY. SHE HAS ACTUALLY DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT, BUT THIS IS A 35 YEAR SERVICE AWARD. SO, MISS WATTS. AMEN TO THAT. MISS WATTS BEGAN HER CAREER AT THE BAY COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY IN MARCH OF 1990 AS A PART TIME SHELVER. OVER THE YEARS, SHE HAS WORKED IN NEARLY EVERY DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE LIBRARY, SERVING AS A LIBRARY ASSISTANT, YOUNG ADULT SPECIALIST, AND CURRENTLY AS THE HEAD OF YOUTH SERVICES. TANYA RECENTLY EARNED HER MASTER OF SCIENCE IN INFORMATION DEGREE FROM THE ONE AND ONLY FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY. GO NOLES! SHE HAS DEDICATED HER CAREER TO SHARING THE LOVE OF BOOKS AND LEARNING WITH THE CHILDREN OF BAY COUNTY, INCLUDING MINE, WHO WE USED TO COME UP THERE ALL THE TIME. A TESTAMENT TO HER IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY IS WITNESSING THE CHILDREN SHE READ TO EARLY IN HER CAREER, NOW BRINGING THEIR OWN CHILDREN TO STORYTIME.

HER HARD WORK AND DEDICATION SERVE AS AN IMPRESSIVE EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS, AND WE ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE YOUR 35 YEARS OF SERVICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAKE SURE. THAT. YEP YEP YEP. THAT IS GOING TO BE OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION WITH COMMISSIONER RAFAEL.

BULLOCK. FAMILY, PLEASE COME FORWARD. Y'ALL COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING.

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LOEYS-DIETZ LOEYS-DIETZ LOEYS-DIETZ SYNDROME AWARENESS MONTH. WHEREAS LOEYS-DIETZ SYNDROME LDS WAS FIRST OBSERVED AND DESCRIBED BY DOCTOR BART LOUIS LEWIS AND DOCTOR HAL DIETZ AT THE JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE IN 2005. AND WHEREAS LOUISE DIETZ SYNDROME LDS IS A GENETIC, AORTIC AND VASCULAR CONDITION THAT AFFECTS THE CONNECTIVE TISSUE IN THE BODY AND INCREASES THE CHANCES OF POTENTIALLY FATAL AORTIC DISSECTION BY 250% WITHOUT MEDICAL MONITORING. WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS WITH LEWIS DIETZ SYNDROME EXHIBIT A VARIETY OF MEDICAL FEATURES IN THE CARDIOVASCULAR, MOSCOW MUSCULOSKELETAL, SKIN, AND GASTROINTESTINAL SYSTEMS, AND WHEREAS ALL EXPRESSIONS OF LEWIS DIETZ SYNDROME ARE LIFELONG, INCURABLE, AND POTENTIALLY DEBILITATING BECAUSE IT IS A LIFE THREATENING GENETIC CONDITION. TIMELY DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT ARE ESSENTIAL FOR OPTIMAL QUALITY OF LIFE AND LONGEVITY, AND WHEREAS THROUGH PUBLIC AWARENESS, BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA SEEKS TO RAISE AWARENESS OF LOUISE DIETZ SYNDROME IN ORDER TO HELP THE LDS COMMUNITY AND THE LDS FOUNDATION HELP SAVE AND IMPROVE LIVES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED, BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMS MARCH 2025 AS LOUISE DIETZ SYNDROME AWARENESS MONTH.

IN REMEMBERING YOUR SON WHO YOU LOST. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, AND WE ARE HONORED TO SERVE YOU AND TO HONOR YOU AND YOUR SON AND YOUR CAUSE. SO BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THIS FAMILY. SHE'S A LITTLE SHY. VERY GOOD TO BE HERE. YOU SMILE, YOU SMILE. READY? THIS IS SEVERAL.

READY. ONE. TWO. THREE. ONE THROUGH THE LAST LINE. ONE. TWO. THREE. IT'S GOOD TO MEET YOU.

GOOD TO MEET YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THE LAST COMMISSIONER. PEACE WITH THE DRINKING AWARD.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVES FROM BAY COUNTY UTILITIES. YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP? AND ALICIA KEATOR. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE ALICIA KEATOR, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WATER RURAL FLORIDA RURAL WATER ASSOCIATION. TODAY, SHE HAS THE HONOR OF PRESENTING BAY COUNTY UTILITIES WITH A BRONZE MEDAL FOR THE BEST TASTING WATER AWARD. WOW. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ALICIA KEATOR. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FLORIDA RURAL WATER ASSOCIATION. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND OR KNOW WHAT FLORIDA RURAL WATER ASSOCIATION IS, WE WERE CREATED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, MUCH LONGER THAN ME, AND IT IS TO REPRESENT THOSE RURAL COMMUNITIES IN AMERICA. BUT WE ALSO HAVE BRANCHED OUT TO WHERE WE SERVE AND WORK WITH ALL SIZE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND EVERY YEAR AT OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN DAYTONA BEACH, WE HOST A DRINKING WATER CONTEST FOR MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE STATE. SO ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES FROM THE DIFFERENT REGIONS AND DISTRICTS FOR DEP BRING THEIR WATER SAMPLES IN TO COMPETE FOR THE BEST QUALITY ON TAP WATER.

SO AT OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN JULY, BAY COUNTY SUBMITTED THEIR SAMPLE AND THEY WERE OUR RECIPIENTS OF THE STATEWIDE BEST TASTING DRINKING WATER. SO KUDOS FOR THAT FIRST AND THE BEST TASTING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO EXCELLENT DETAILS THAT BOBBY AND HIS TEAM ARE DOING UP HERE.

AND THEN BECAUSE THEY WON THAT WE GO TO COMPETE ANNUALLY EVERY YEAR IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WITH OUR NATIONAL WATER RALLY, WHERE WE GO AND WE MEET WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, REPRESENTATIVES ON THE HILL, AND THEN WE INVITE THOSE RECIPIENTS FROM ALL 50 STATES WHO WON THE BEST TASTE IN WATER COMPETITION, AND THEY COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER IN ALL STATES. SO THIS PAST FEBRUARY, THE TEAM CAME UP AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR SAMPLE UP TO COMPETE AGAINST 43 OTHER UTILITIES, 43 OTHER STATES AROUND. AND WE HAD GREAT COMPETITION. AND BAY COUNTY CAME HOME WITH THE BRONZE THIS YEAR. SO WE WERE VERY PROUD TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE

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GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. GOT A SMILE THERE CATHERINE. YEP, YEP. OKAY. OKAY OKAY. SO I'VE GOT ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS FOR ANY ITEM THAT'S ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO ANYTHING ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, MISTER

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MAGUIRE TO PROVIDE DISASTER CONSULTING SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE SAME UNDER THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. ITEM 11 WEEKS MARINE INC. CONTRACT 2445 AMENDMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT 2445 FOR THE RESTORATION PROJECT BETWEEN THE BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND WEEKS MARINE, INC. TO INCLUDE THE WAGE DETERMINATION OBTAINED FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL IN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE.

YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT,

[Public Works]

CONTRACT AWARD. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN OF STAFF COMES TO THE PODIUM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE BOARD AWARD THE CONTRACT 2518 SHERMAN AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT TO ROBERTS AND ROBERTS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $571,999.45 AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. STAFF IS

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION? SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM 13. LATITUDE IS WATERSOUND. AREA ONE, PHASE FIVE A-3. AND AMENITIES AMENITY CENTER PLAT APPROVAL. MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR MR. BRYANT STARTS MY FIRM. WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT WE ARE DOING WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON ANOTHER MATTER. SO I'M GOING TO RECUSE ON THIS.

YES, SIR. OKAY. MR. BRYANT, VICE PRESIDENT OF LMWHS, IS REQUESTING FINAL APPROVAL FOR THE PLAT OF LATITUDE AT WATERSOUND AREA ONE, PHASE FIVE, A-3 AND THE AMENITY CENTER. THE SUBDIVISION HAS 96 RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH 0.58 MILES OF PRIVATE ROADWAY AND PRIVATE AMENITY CENTER. THE STORMWATER FACILITIES, ACCESS AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS, AND LANDSCAPE OPEN AREAS ARE PRIVATE, WITH NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENTS FOR ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE OF WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES, AND A PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENT DEDICATED TO BAY COUNTY. THE DEVELOPMENT, PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS PHASE FIVE A, WAS A, WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY PLANNING. THE SUBDIVISION PLAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 177.071, FLORIDA STATUTES, AND BAY COUNTY REGULATIONS. THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A $3,444,112 BOND PERFORMANCE BOND FOR THE PRIVATE ROAD DRAINAGE, WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS A APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR LATITUDE AT WATERSOUND AREA ONE, PHASE FIVE A-3 AND AMENITY CENTER AND BE AUTHORIZED STAFF TO RECORD THE DEVELOPMENT PERFORMANCE BOND WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION SECOND. SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. AND COMMISSIONER CARROLL

[Utility Services]

THIS IS BECOMING SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO TOO. TOO OFTEN. RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. THIS REQUEST IS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE CONTRACT 2504 UTILITY SERVICES. NORTH BAY UNDERGROUND INJECTION CONTROL WELLS IN THE AMOUNT OF $16,364,100 TO AC SCHULTZ OF FLORIDA, INCORPORATED AND INC, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BOBBY, ON THESE WELLS, ONCE THEY'RE PUT IN PLACE, THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE USED EVERY DAY, RIGHT? WE'RE STILL GOING TO UTILIZE SPRAY FIELDS FOR WE WILL USE THIS PROCESS. AND THIS IS KIND OF A BACKUP OR. NO SIR. THIS IS HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US OUR UNDERGROUND EXPANSION THAT WE NEED FOR CONTROL OF OUR EFFLUENT AT THE NORTH BAY FACILITY. THE SPRAY FIELDS ON SITE WILL CONTINUE TO BE USED, BUT THIS WILL JUST GIVE US SOME ADDED CAPACITY AND ALSO THE POTENTIAL OF GETTING ADDITIONAL LAND TO 40 ACRES FOR SPRAY FIELDS IS THAT ARE WE DOING ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH? WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING BOTH.

THE EXPANSION IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE THIS ABILITY TO SPRAY SPRAY FIELD

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THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. BOB, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO FOLKS HOW DEEP THESE WELLS ARE? I HAD THE HONOR OF GOING OUT THERE WITH YOU, AND YOU EXPLAINED TO ME HOW THESE WERE GOING TO WORK, AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. WELL, IT'S THESE WELLS ARE GOING TO HELP CONTROL THE EFFLUENT DISPOSAL OF OUR WASTEWATER AT THE NORTH BAY PLANT. CURRENTLY, WE USE A SPRAY FILL OR A RIBBED SYSTEM. THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO INJECT IT IN THE GROUND.

APPROVED BY THE STATE 2000FT DEEP INTO AN UNDERGROUND AREA. THIS WILL GIVE US CAPACITY DURING THE RAINY DAYS HURRICANE SEASON STORM WHEN WE CANNOT SURFACE SUPPLY THIS WATER. THIS GIVES US A WAY TO DISPOSE OF THIS EFFLUENT. YES, SIR. AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THE WATER THAT IS DISCHARGED FROM THIS PLANT IS CAN DRINK IT. IN THEORY, IT IS DRINKING WATER QUALITY OF A FISH TANK IN YOUR OFFICE WITH FISH SWIMMING IN THIS WATER. SO IT'S CLEAN WATER. YES, SIR. IT IS. AND SO GREAT JOB AND WE APPRECIATE YOU, MAN. ONLY TWO EYES ON THOSE FISH, RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT NOW. TODAY. RIGHT, BOBBY, JUST A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS.

THIS PART OF OUR STRATEGY IN DOING THIS IS ALSO MEETING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE HAS PUT DOWN RECENTLY WITH LEGISLATION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. CORRECT? YES, SIR.

THIS WILL HELP ADDRESS THE SENATE BILL 64, EFFLUENT DISPOSAL, WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO REMOVE OUR DISPOSAL METHODS NOW, WHICH IS INTO THE BAY. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO MEET THAT SENATE BILL 64 REQUIREMENT. AND THAT'S MEETING IT. HOW SOON? I MEAN IT'S WE HAVE UNTIL WHEN TO BE ABLE TO MEET. YOU HAVE UNTIL 2032. WE'RE GOING TO BE AHEAD OF THAT TIMELINE OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE STAFF WORKING ON THAT DILIGENTLY TO GET US IN ON THAT. SO WE'VE GOT A STRATEGY IN PLACE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW BEFORE IT'S REQUIRED. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING Y'ALL DID ON THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DON'T HAVE ANY. IF I COULD GET A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE.

[Community Development]

SPOKEN WITH NO ONE, SPOKE TO NO ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE ZONING DESIGNATION OF 0.8 ACRES FROM C-2 PLAZA COMMERCIAL TO C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE PARCEL IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY AND PARADISE BOULEVARD IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR ALONG PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY ZONED BOTH C2 AND C3 C3. THE CORRIDOR HAS SEEN A RECENT TRANSITION TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USES AND ZONINGS AS WELL. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THE SUBJECT PARCEL MEETS THE MINIMUM BULK REQUIREMENTS OF THE C3 ZONING, AS DETAILED IN. THE LDR STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SOME RESIDENTS OF THE PARADISE COVE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS, WERE PRESENT. ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS WAS THE HOA PRESIDENT, WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE OF THE CHANGE. THERE WAS ANOTHER MEMBER OR PROPERTY OWNER

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CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. SIR.

ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? STAND TO BE SWORN IN. I'VE RAISED MY HAND WHEN HE.

WHEN YOU ASKED. I'M DANIEL FIELDS, OWNER OF FNF POOLS. I'M THE ONE WHO'S REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE IN COMMENTS TO THE SIDE ACCESS. AT OUR FIRST MEETING LAST MONTH WITH THE HOA PRESIDENT HERE, WE BOTH KIND OF AGREED THAT THAT SIDE ENTRANCE TO PARADISE, THE SIDE ENTRANCE TO MY PROPERTY COMING OFF PARADISE BOULEVARD, WOULD NOT ONLY HINDER HIM AND IT WOULDN'T BENEFIT ME EITHER. SO WE WERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS WITH FDOT TO START DOING THE TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT ALL THE TESTING, THE SURVEYS THAT THEY'VE GOT TO DO TO ACTUALLY HAVE OUR ENTRANCE OFF OF THERE'S A TURN LANE APPROXIMATELY 200FT LONG IN THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY THAT GOES INTO PARADISE BOULEVARD, THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH FDOT TO TRY AND GET OUR ENTRY AND EXIT OUT OF THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE OUR MAIN THING IS FOR THE PROPERTY IS OUR POOL SHOW ROOM TO SHOWCASE THAT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH SWIMMING POOLS AND WITH THAT, OUR TILE, OUR COPING, OUR PAVERS, JUST ALL OF OUR STUFF. SO SOME OF THOSE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, IT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY THING, BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO HINDER THEM BECAUSE THAT PARADISE BOULEVARD ROAD IS EVEN THE HOA PRESIDENT SAID HE'S LIKE, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING IN AND OUT WITH MOVING TRUCKS THAT CAN GET GET CONGESTED. SO MY, MY THOUGHT TO HIM WAS WE'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO, TO WORK WITH YOU. AND I THINK IT'D BE BOTH BENEFICIAL TO US IF WE CAME OFF OF 98. IF, IF SO ALLOWED.

FROM WHAT THE FDOT TOLD ME, IT IS POSSIBLE. WE'VE JUST GOT TO WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE NECESSARY, NECESSARY HURDLES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH THEM IF YOU WANTED TO SHARE THAT ACCESS AND GET THEIR PERMISSION. SO YES, SIR. AND I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MR. PELLEGRINI. HE'S THE HOA PRESIDENT. WE EXCHANGED PHONE NUMBERS LAST TIME AND I SAID WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO ADD TO IT, NOT TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOU GUYS. SO IF THERE'S ANY INPUT AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT ALREADY ABOUT IT. SO I WAS LIKE, WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO MAKE IT BETTER, NOT TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOU. AND HE WAS PRETTY PLEASED AND HAPPY WITH THAT WAS TO YOUR BENEFIT.

YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT OF WAY ADJACENT TO YOU. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BUFFERS. THAT DEFINITELY WORKS IN YOUR FAVOR. YES, SIR. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. COMMENTS. I THINK WITH THE ADJACENT ZONING, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF C3 IN THAT AREA. WE'VE APPROVED SEVERAL OF THESE IN THE PAST. I MEAN, IT IS DEFINITELY COMPATIBLE. THE SETBACKS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE IS THE HEIGHT, WHICH HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HERE. I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH IT. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CARROLL? YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, COMMISSIONER. RAPHAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. LAST THING. PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN IS

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WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH STAFF COULD COULD DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND ALSO PROVIDE A MECHANISM WHERE A APPLICANT, A ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE VENDOR COULD CHALLENGE THAT DECISION FROM STAFF AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING IN FRONT OF A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO AIR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT IT. SO WE SO THE ORDINANCE IS PROPOSING A LIST OF SEVERAL REASONS WHY A ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, WHY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PLANNING APPROVAL FOR A ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE CAN BE WITHDRAWN AND ALSO PROVIDES A MECHANISM FOR THE VENDOR TO BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THAT DECISION BEFORE. ANY FINAL ACTION IS TAKEN. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT LIST OF ITEMS THAT OF WAYS THAT CAN BE WITHDRAWN AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL INTERESTED PARTIES TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES REGARDING THAT LIST. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW FROM THE PUBLIC? THE ONLY QUESTIONS I WAS GETTING FROM FROM FOLKS CALLING ME WAS, YOU KNOW, THE LANGUAGE IN THE RULE ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS AND, AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS IN THAT IT SAYS IN THIS VERBIAGE THAT TWO VIOLATIONS CONSTITUTES A REMOVAL OF A BUSINESS OWNER'S, A POTENTIAL REMOVAL OF THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE.

AND THERE ARE SOME GENUINE CONCERNS, RIGHTFULLY SO, AMONGST PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BUSINESSES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CROOKED MAILBOX LETTERS NOT BEING ON THEIR BUSINESS GRASS TOO HIGH THAT WE COULD AS A BOARD OR COUNTY, NOT US, BUT AS A MAGISTRATE COULD PULL THEIR THEIR LICENSE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MAYBE THE VERBIAGE CHANGE. I THINK IT'S I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GREAT. I THINK THIS HAS TO BE CHANGED. WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST POP UP CLUBS AND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US COME BACK TO THIS AND LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT VIEW. YEAH. AND THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION WAS ADDED BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY FEW. BUT BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE. ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE VENDORS THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES ABOUT NOISE VIOLATIONS OR ABOUT STAYING UP, STAYING BEYOND THEIR TIME OR OTHER ISSUES. AND SO THE THOUGHT WAS, THIS PROVIDES ANOTHER MECHANISM TO ADDRESS PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING UNNEIGHBORLY. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TILTED MAILBOX OR THE. LAWN THAT'S NOT MOWED OR OTHER MINOR THINGS. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH. EVERYBODY TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN. I HAD THE SAME EXACT SOUNDS LIKE CONVERSATION WITH SOME FOLKS ABOUT IT. AND THE OTHER ONE WAS WE ONLY REGULATE UNINCORPORATED BAY COUNTY. THIS DOES NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THE CITY, PANAMA CITY BEACH, PANAMA CITY. SO THEY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RULES AND REGULATIONS AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S ONLY AN UNINCORPORATED BAY COUNTY.

RIGHT. BUT I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT MAYBE HAS A BEEF WITH SOMEONE WE DO NOT CURRENTLY, BUT THAT THAT

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AND IF ANYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, HIS GREAT READING, I ASSURE YOU. SO YEAH, THAT THAT WAS A DISCUSSION I HAD WITH THE CHAIRMAN EARLIER TODAY. YES. SO THE NEXT CHAPTER IS THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ORDINANCE. AND ALL PROVIDE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WITH THE, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE REGARDING THAT AND THE EXPLANATION FOR THOSE CHANGES. THE CHAPTER AFTER THAT IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE, WHICH I THINK IS ALMOST READY. BUT I WILL SEND OUT OUR WORK IN PROGRESS SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT THE CHAPTER AFTER THAT IS OUR BEACHES CHAPTER. AND. I THINK I'VE PROVIDED DURING THE. OUR, OUR WEEKLY UPDATES, WE PROVIDE SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS ABOUT THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, PLACES WHERE OUR ORDINANCE AND THE PANAMA CITY BEACH ORDINANCE DIFFER THAT WE MAY WANT TO THAT ADDRESS, BUT THAT ONE, WE DON'T HAVE A DRAFT OF AN ORDINANCE YET, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE GETTING OUR DRAFTS AS SOON AS THEY ARE PREPARED, SO THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY ANY THINGS THAT YOU THINK THE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT. THANK YOU SIR, THAT'S ALL I, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAD SOME OF THE SAME WORRIES THAT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BROUGHT UP. AND I DO APPRECIATE SO MUCH YOU GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE CHAPTERS. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S LITTLE SMALL THINGS THAT HAVE REALLY CAUGHT MINDS HAVE TO CATCH. BUT THIS PARTICULAR THING AS A WHOLE, I FEEL REALLY COMPELLED TO, TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE FURTHER THAN JUST THAT ONE, THAT ONE ITEM.

THIS AFFECTS, AS WE SAID, ONLY INCORPORATED UNINCORPORATED BAY COUNTY RIGHT NOW FOR ANY RESTAURANT OR BAR THAT MAY HOLD A LIQUOR LICENSE, WHETHER IT BE THE BIG FOR CP OF COP LICENSE OR THE REGULAR 4951. SO IT IT IT DOES AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE DO REPRESENT ALL OF BAY COUNTY. SO AT WHAT TIME COULD THIS GO INTO EVERYWHERE AT BAY COUNTY? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SURELY DISCUSS THAT, THAT PORTION OF IT LATER. I JUST WANTED TO RUN THROUGH A FEW OF THESE IN F OF THE 212 MONTHS. SEEMS. YOU KNOW, TO STOP THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE FOR 12 MONTHS FOR ANY VIOLATION. AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, SMALL, SMALL OFFENSES, TALL GRASS NOISE, WHAT HAVE YOU. SEEMS VERY, VERY HEAVY HANDED. SECTION FOUR IS SAYS THAT THIS IS STRICTER THAN FLORIDA LAW. SO THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE DRAWING UP HERE IS STRICTER THAN FLORIDA LAW. NOW WE SEEM TO ONLY BE PUTTING THAT TOWARDS SOMEONE WITH A LIQUOR LICENSE. SO I'M AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THEM UP. WHAT ABOUT STORES THAT SELL WEED? I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT I MEAN, THERE ARE ALL KIND OF OTHER PLACES THAT I'M JUST NOT SURE WHY. WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST PICKING ON THIS. IT SEEMS. IT SEEMS EXCESSIVE. WHY DON'T WHY DON'T WE GIVE FINES OUT FOR. WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. I THINK A $500 FINE FOR NOISE. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT NOW. I GET THE SAME AS. AS BRIAN SAID, WE GET THE SAME CALLS FROM THE SAME BARS OVER AND OVER FOR NOISE.

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THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE SAME. IT'S THE SAME THING. EXCEPT WE'RE NOT PHYSICALLY THERE WHEN THEY MAKE THE NOISE. SO WE CAN'T GO GO GIVE THE FINES OR WHATEVER OTHER WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO FINE TUNE THE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. I THINK INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE EXTENT OF MAKING THIS STRONGER THAN EVEN THE FLORIDA LAW. SO I'M ALSO NOT SURE WHY PLANNING AND BUILDING. IS REALLY THE LEAD ON THIS. WE RIGHT NOW, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I THINK IS THE IS THE GROUP THAT GOES OUT AND WRITES THE FINE OR ISSUES THE FINE FOR MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WE CAN'T SUBMIT. IT SAYS YOU CAN'T SUBMIT FALSE OR MISLEADING INFORMATION. WELL, YOU ALREADY CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON A BUILDING PERMIT. YOU CAN'T DO IT ON ANYTHING YOU FILL OUT FOR THE GOVERNMENT. SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT, DOING THAT TWICE. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THIS ON A ONE MISTAKE THAT MAYBE WE MADE. AND SO WE'RE BUILDING THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE AROUND SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TIGHTEN UP ON OUR OWN AND DO A LITTLE BETTER JOB ON, ON SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND MAYBE NOT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE THIS ALL THIS ADDITIONAL KIND OF HEAVY HANDED. I THINK GOVERNMENT HEAVY HAND ANY VIOLATION OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ALREADY HAS PROCEDURES. SO IF YOU'RE VIOLATING ANY PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU CAN. THERE'S ALREADY A MECHANISM, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY TO GET SHUT DOWN FOR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING UNDER FIVE AND SIX, ANY CHANGES THAT WOULD MATERIALLY, MATERIALLY ALTER WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR. SO IF SOMEBODY'S APPLYING TO BUILD A HOUSE AND THEY ADD ON A ROOM LATER ON THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET THAT SHUT DOWN ALREADY. BAY COUNTY ORDINANCE, THE TALL GRASS AND THE NOISE. AND NUMBER SEVEN IS REALLY THE ONE THAT WE ALL MAYBE GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT. AND IT IS WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF RIGHT NOW, THAT WE'RE NOT DOING. OKAY. SO NUMBER EIGHT, IF WE'RE GOING TO REVOKE SOMEONE'S PERMIT, THEIR LICENSE, THEIR THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE, THESE THESE FOUR COP LICENSES COULD COST BETWEEN 4 AND $700,000 TO PURCHASE. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST. CUTTING THAT ALL THE MAXIMUM FINE RIGHT NOW IS $500 FOR THESE OTHER THINGS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT USING WE'RE NOT USING THAT TO OUR BENEFIT RIGHT THIS MINUTE. THE 400 TO $700,000 LICENSE FOR THE LIQUOR LICENSE IS JUST THE SMALL PART OF THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE SPENT ON BUILDING A BUILDING WHICH IS JUST DESIGNED FOR A RESTAURANT OR A BAR IN SPECIFICALLY. AND WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DANCE HALL IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NOT GOING TO BE CONDUCIVE TO WHERE EVERYONE CAN GET OUT THERE AND, AND DANCE. SO THE OTHER NUMBER TEN, THE ABANDONMENT OF THE PREMISES. SO IF WE HAVE HURRICANE FIRE, TORNADO. THIS DOESN'T REALLY TELL US HOW LONG THE ABANDONMENT IS OF THE PREMISES. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT I DON'T THINK IT'S TAKEN THESE THINGS INTO EFFECT THAT THE THING COULD BE SHUT DOWN FOR, YOU KNOW, OTHER REASONS. AND SO WE NEED TO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT ONE. THAT'S GOING TO ALMOST WRAP IT UP FOR ME. I THINK WE PROBABLY MAYBE COULD STRIKE ALMOST EVERYTHING IN THIS IN THIS ORDINANCE. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED IT. MAYBE WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE NOW AND DUST THEM UP AND DO A BETTER JOB OF THEM. AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

YES, MA'AM. PART OF MY CONVERSATIONS, BRIAN, I DID A LITTLE Q&A WITH YOU, ASKING QUESTIONS. I JUST I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY DO THAT IN PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. THIS THIS AMENDMENT WAS

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AND AT LEAST IN ONE SITUATION IN THE PAST, WE STAFF CONCLUDED THAT. A THAT THERE ZONING APPROVAL WAS ISSUED. I WOULDN'T SAY AN ERROR, BUT BUT ISSUED THAT THEY THEY CONCLUDED THAT CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED SO THAT THE PROPERTY WAS NO LONGER ZONED CORRECTLY FOR THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE. AND SO THE INTENT OF ALL THIS WAS JUST TO CLARIFY THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS UPON THE ISSUANCE, IT TALKS HERE ABOUT OUR REVOCATION. AND SO IT THERE MIGHT BE SOME. AND FORGIVE ME Y'ALL, I'M GOING TO USE A LAWYER TERM TO A LAWYER, A LAWYER SPEAKING TO A LAWYER HERE. BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME INARTFUL WAYS THAT SOME OF THIS WAS DRAFTED OR WRITTEN, THAT AS LAWYERS, WE KIND OF READ ONE WAY, BUT AN AVERAGE PERSON THAT MIGHT READ IT MIGHT NOT SEE IT THE WAY THAT WE KIND OF DO BECAUSE WE DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY. AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED YOU ABOUT WAS, IS IT RELATES TO THE REVOCATION OF THE LICENSE OR THOSE THINGS. WE CAN SEND A LETTER TO THE STATE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY REVOKE THAT PERSON'S LICENSE. CORRECT. IN FACT, THE, THE, THE ONE THAT WAS HAPPENED A YEAR OR TWO AGO, THAT THAT LICENSE IS STILL ACTIVE. OKAY. AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S PART OF FOR Y'ALL'S AWARENESS. HE MENTIONED THAT I HAD THE CONVERSATION. WHAT I ASKED IS KIND OF GOING FORWARD ON THESE AS WE GO THROUGH. I THINK IT IS SMART AND PRUDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT BRIAN'S LEANING INTO LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES AND LOOKING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP AND, AND, AND TIGHTEN THINGS UP. AND IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, THIS IS ACTUALLY LIMITING AND DRAWING A BOX AROUND WHAT THE COUNTY CAN AND CANNOT DO. WHEREAS NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT WIDER ON LATITUDE AND IT'S KIND OF LIMITING THOSE THINGS. BUT IT IS INCUMBENT FOR US AS THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE, OF THE CITIZENS TO BE BETTER INFORMED OF THAT. AND SO WHAT I HAD ASKED IS TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT, TO GET A DRAFT OF WHAT THE EXISTING IS AND WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE FOR COMING UP FOR EACH ONE OF US TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW, TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS RESPECTIVE STAFF ON THIS AND FROM THAT, BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD. BECAUSE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, I MEAN, HE Y'ALL HEARD HIM SAY WHICH ONES WE'VE GOT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPINIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING FROM FOLKS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE, THAT WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AND CAN ARTICULATE AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE CITIZENS WHEN THEY CALL US AND BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM ANSWERS ON THE FRONT END. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'RE WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAD SEVERAL FOLKS THAT CALLED ME. I ENCOURAGED THEM TO COME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TODAY. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THEM HERE, BUT I DO ABOUT TO OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I DO WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS, AND I DO WANT US AS COMMISSIONERS, TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO THOSE WHO WE REPRESENT AND BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM GOOD ANSWERS AND TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO WITH THAT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME. YES, SIR. ONE LAST QUICK, THE THERE'S A SECTION IN THEIR PLAN B WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT PLANNING OFFICIAL AND BUILDING OFFICIAL.

THAT'S EXISTING LANGUAGE, RIGHT? YES. WE DIDN'T EVEN ADD THAT. SO WE'RE NOT GIVING AUTHORITY. SO WHICH ONE RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. THE ONLY THING HE ADDED WAS ACTUALLY REMOVING SOME CAPACITY OF THEM THAT THEY'RE ONLY HAVING TO GO OUT. IF IT'S THE ON PREMISE

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RIGHT. THE FIRST SECTION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS JUST RESTATING THE EXISTING PROVISIONS SO THAT WE HAVE SOME EXISTING RULES ABOUT WHEN WE GIVE THAT PLANNING, WHEN THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SIGNS THAT APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO REVIEW. AND HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT. THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO REVIEW. AND I SAW THAT AND I AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT IS IN THERE NOW. BUT WHAT IS NOT IN THERE IS THEIR ABILITY TO REVOKE. OH YEAH. YEAH. TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST ABSOLUTELY I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME PAGE AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE I STILL I STILL FEEL LIKE IT'S A HEAVY HAND OF GOVERNMENT HERE PUTTING ADDITIONAL RULES IN PLACE OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S RULES WORSENED STRONGER THAN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS I SPOKE WITH, THEY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE MOVING THIS INTO THE PLANNING AND BUILDING OFFICIALS HANDS, THAT IT WAS NOT CURRENTLY ALREADY THERE, BUT WE'RE MOVING. THE FACT THAT THEY CAN REVOKE SOMEONE'S REVOKE, THAT'S ADDING MORE POWER. YES.

ADDING MORE, BUT A LOT MORE POWER. I MEAN, AN EXTREME AMOUNT, BUT I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THAT LANGUAGE SHOULD BE REMOVED, BUT WE'RE NOT MOVING IT FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER. IT'S ALREADY THERE. SO. OKAY. AND THEY'RE ALREADY REVIEWING. CORRECT. SO AGAIN I SAY WE ARE WE'RE WE ALREADY HAVE THESE THINGS IN PLACE. WE HAVE THE DBPR BLESS THEIR HEARTS. YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE THEM A LONG TIME TO, YOU KNOW, ANSWER A COMPLAINT OR ANYTHING ELSE. BUT THAT MECHANISM IS IN PLACE ALREADY FOR THIS TYPE OF THING. SO. ANYONE CARE TO COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS FOR ANYONE THAT

[PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)]

CONTINUING THAT LEASE. THANK YOU. WE WERE HOPING FOR A DEMONSTRATION. YEAH, YEAH.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. WHAT'S GOING ON? ALL RIGHT. HELLO. MY NAME IS BRIAN CHAMBERS, 104 HERITAGE CIRCLE, 51 YEAR RESIDENT. AND ALSO, THANKS FOR HAVING ME AND MR. SCHUBERT.

THANK YOU FOR THE TELEPHONE CALL I GOT. I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING. AND I WANT TO START BY EXPRESSING MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A BIG DECISION AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR OFFER CLARITY ON ABOUT THE TATTOO SHOP THAT I HAD BROUGHT UP BY RONNIE'S AUTOMOTIVE. THE LAST MEETING, AND WHY WE'D BE ALLOWED OR TO BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE THERE. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE COMMISSIONERS YET, AND THE REASON I'M BACK TODAY IS BECAUSE I'VE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND I'M LOSING IT VERY FAST. THE LOCATION OF THE SHOP IS CRUCIAL FOR ME BECAUSE I NEED TO STAY CLOSE TO MY FATHER, WHO HAS SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS AND IS BATTLING WITH FRONTOTEMPORAL DEMENTIA, WHICH IS PRETTY CRAZY. THIS IS WHY THE SHOP IS WHERE IT'S AT, SO I CAN CONTINUE TO WORK AND CARE FOR HIM. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I RESPECT THE LAW AND THE RULES YOU GUYS HAVE SET, AND I'M COMMITTED BY BUYING THEM, ABIDING BY THEM. I HAVE 25 YEARS EXPERIENCE AS A TATTOO ARTIST, AND DURING THIS TIME I'VE WORKED WITH A BROAD RANGE OF CLIENTS INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT, MEDICAL STAFF, NURSES, DOCTORS AND VETERANS. A LARGE PART OF MY CLIENTELE CONSISTS OF THESE HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE WHERE THEY, ALONG WITH OTHERS, CAN ENJOY THE TATTOO EXPERIENCE. IN ADDITION TO BEING A TATTOO ARTIST, I WAS ALSO A CORRECTIONS OFFICER FOR THE BAY COUNTY JAIL. WORKING AT THE JAIL. IT HELPED ME TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY, RESPECT AND PROFESSIONALISM. THEN I BRING

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THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED FROM THESE CLIENTS OVER THE YEARS IS A TESTAMENT TO THE QUALITY AND PROFESSIONALISM I BRING TO MY WORK. SO, IN CONCLUSION, I ASK YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE HARD WORK, DEDICATION AND FINANCIAL INVESTMENT THAT HAS BEEN GONE INTO THIS PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING THE LAW AND BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE COMMUNITY'S VALUES, AND I ASSURE YOU THAT I INTEND TO UPHOLD THESE PRINCIPLES IN EVERYTHING WE DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR GIVING ME A CALL. I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU A CALL BACK. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. DO YOU WANT TO? SEEING NOTHING. COUNTY

[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT]

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OKAY, OKAY. JUST FOR JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEONE OUT THERE IS GOING TO THINK THAT WE THAT THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE COUNTY FOR 1.1 MILLION AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK 50,000. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S NO NO NO NO. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR. SO OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL YEARS, YOU KNOW OUR, OU, OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT THAT HAVE THAT WEAR UNIFORMS, WE, WE RENT THOSE AND GET THEM CLEANED THROUGH A CONTRACT WITH CINTAS. AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE WERE CHARGED UNDER THAT CONTRACT WAS 1.1 MILLION. WE WERE NOT WE WERE NOT OVERCHARGED AT 1.1. THAT WAS THE COST OF THE SERVICE THAT WE RECEIVED. SO WE SHOULD HAVE PAID THEM PART OF THAT 1.1, IF NOT ALL CORRECT. EXACTLY. YEAH. THAT'S IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WERE OVERCHARGED OR NOT. JUST IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THEY HAVE VIOLATED OUR CONTRACT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, OUR EXPENSES GO THROUGH A PRE-AUDIT STAFF LEVEL, THE CLERK'S OFFICE. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION FROM PURCHASING OR FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT WE'VE BEEN OVERCHARGED. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE BEEN.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER THIS CONTRACT, WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDS TO BE REIMBURSED. AND IF WE'RE ELIGIBLE TO RECOVER THAT TAX MONEY, WE'RE WE FEEL, I THINK, TO PUT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY MISCARRIAGE OF PUBLIC DOLLARS, RIGHT, THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING A MONEY THAT OUT OF THE SETTLEMENT THAT. IS A GREAT MONEY TO RECEIVE. BUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THERE WAS ANY ACTUAL MISFEASANCE REGARDING CONTRACT COSTING US ANYTHING BUT TO BE PART OF THIS, IF THEY FIND THAT WE WERE OVERCHARGED, THEN WE WILL GET A REFUND CHECK. ESSENTIALLY, WE'LL GET A REFUND CHECK WHETHER WE WERE OVERCHARGED OR NOT. BUT THIS IS LIKE COMING FROM A THEIR INSURANCE POLICY. I DON'T KNOW HOW CINTAS CAME UP WITH THE 45 MILLION, BUT THE 45 MILLION IS SITTING THERE WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE CLAIMS. SO WITH THAT, WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE THEM TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR CLAIMS. SO. BASED ON THIS, DO WE NORMALLY DO OUR HOMEWORK AND CHECK TO SEE IF WE WERE OVERCHARGED OR NOT? WE'RE INVOICED ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND THAT'S LOOKED AT AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL AS WELL AS THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE THROUGH A PRE AUDIT BEFORE A CHECK IS EVER CUT. SO AND AGAIN THROUGH PURCHASING. SO IF WE HAD SOME INDICATION THAT WE WERE BEING OVERCHARGED IT WOULD BE CAUGHT. AND THEN UNTIL THIS CLASS ACTION WAS FILED. WE HAD NO INDICATION FROM FROM OUR CHECKS AND BALANCES PROCESS THAT OUR CONTRACT HAS BEEN VIOLATED.

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BUT IF WE'RE JUST JUMPING ON BOARD AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ENTITLED TO A REFUND AND WE'RE GETTING ONE ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY INSURANCE KEEPS GOING UP. BUT. WE'RE ENTITLED TO ONE. I UNDERSTAND WE SHOULD GET OUR MONEY BACK. POSITIVE WE DIDN'T. I DON'T KNOW THIS. THIS IS I DON'T KNOW IF WE DON'T DESERVE IT. IF IT'S NOT OUR. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE. WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE'RE GETTING WHILE WE'RE JUMPING ON THERE TO GET IT. I MEAN, I 100% WANT TO GET BACK ANY DOLLAR WE CAN FOR THE TAXPAYERS, NO QUESTION. BUT IF THIS IS NOT OUR MONEY TO RECEIVE AND NOT. I'M LOOKING AT THE CLERK BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS INTEGRAL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN MY OFFICE AND HIS OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE A HE HAS A FULL TIME PERSON THAT LOOKS FOR THESE THINGS. AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU GIVE US THE AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN ON, MAYBE WE CAN PUT THIS ON HER TO DO LIST. SHE CAN GO BACK AND AGAIN LOOK AT THE CONTRACT JUST TO MAKE SURE. BUT AS I SAID, I'VE HAD NO INDICATION THAT. AND I WILL SAY I WILL SAY FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, I MEAN, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THINGS ARE OFF PENNIES, WE GET FEEDBACK. SO, I MEAN, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT GOES ON IN HIS OFFICE TO, TO WATCH WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING IMPROPER ABOUT THESE INVOICES. SO THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, IF YOU WANT US TO DIG INTO IT, BUT WE COULD GO THROUGH 55,000 MAN HOURS TO DIG THROUGH YEARS OF INVOICES ALSO. SO IT'S EITHER, IN MY OPINION, YOUR DECISION WHETHER YOU WANT TO JUST ACCEPT THE SETTLEMENT OR NOT, THE BOTH SIDES OF THAT AS FAR AS BUT SOMEBODY THAT 45 MILLION IS GOING OUT TO ENTITIES. YES. THE MONEY'S ALREADY SITTING THERE.

SO THE CINTAS HAS ALREADY MADE THE DECISION TO GIVE THE MONEY TO SOMEBODY. BUT I'M IF WE HAVE UNTIL APRIL 1ST TO MAKE THAT DECISION, WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON APRIL 1ST SO WE CAN DO SOME MORE LOOKING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY INDICATION THAT WE WERE IMPACTED BY WHATEVER. THE BILLING ISSUE WAS. AND, AND THEN HAVE YOU ALL MAKE A FINAL DECISION NEXT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, IF YOU'D PREFER? I'M CERTAINLY NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO GO BACK THROUGH YEARS OF UNIFORM INVOICES. I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT ASKING FOR THAT. I THINK THAT WE WOULD KNOW IF WE WERE OVERCHARGED BECAUSE WE HAVE A CHECKS AND BALANCES, AND I EVEN CONSTANTLY, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS DO ASK ABOUT ODDBALL CHECKS. WE SEE EVERY CHECK. WE LOOK AT EVERY INVOICE, EVERY CHECK THAT'S WRITTEN. AGAIN, I SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT OUR MONEY, I DON'T. I AGREE WITH ROBERT. I THINK THIS IS PART OF WHY OUR INSURANCE IS SO UNAFFORDABLE RIGHT NOW. SO.

MAYBE SOMETHING WILL COME TO LIGHT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. SO HOW ABOUT WE DISCUSS IT THEN?

[COUNTY MANAGER REPORT]

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BUT AGAIN, MY INTENT IS TO COME TO YOU ON APRIL 1ST AND WITH WITH THIS RESOLUTION ON YOUR AGENDA AND WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU ADOPT IT. AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, I THINK THIS IS IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS OF HOW WE PERFORM ANYWAY. SO IF WE GET INQUIRIES FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THIS TEAM AND THEY WANT TO BEGIN ASKING US FOR INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE MY INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT IN LIGHT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, BEING ON YOUR AGENDA WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS. AS I SAID, I THINK THIS IS IN IT'S IN OUR WHEELHOUSE. THE PUBLIC EXPECTS US TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. I DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO EVER HAVE AN OUTSIDE AGENCY LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THIS ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION AND HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, AND I THINK ALL OF THAT IS PRUDENT, WHETHER IT'S AN OUTSIDE PUBLIC ENTITY OR AN OUTSIDE PRIVATE ENTITY. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M AVAILABLE TO DO THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY INTENT REAL QUICK. THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OVER THE WEEKEND AND THROUGH YESTERDAY. AND FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK AS THE COMMISSION, IT WOULD SHOW VERY WELL ON OUR PART THAT WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE STATE. AS BOB SAID, THIS IS NUMBER TWO IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. THIS IS JUST SHOWING FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WILLING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE GOVERNOR'S TEAM, JUST TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS FORWARD AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND TO SHOW THE CITIZENS HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT MANAGING THE FUNDS, THE BEING STEWARD OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE GIVEN. AND SO LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS IN THE IN THE NEXT MEETING AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING BOB HAS DONE ON THIS REGARD TO WORK TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF US AND GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO WITH THAT CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER

[CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

I'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY LATELY. 11 YEAR OLD JUST CONCLUDED HER SOCCER SEASON SO I'M EXCITED FOR HER. SHE'S A SPRING BREAKING AND PLAYING WITH THE DOGS TODAY, I THINK. SO THAT'S ALL I REALLY GOT TO SAY. COMMISSIONER PIECE, WE'RE HEADED TO TALLAHASSEE, ALL OF US HERE SHORTLY. AND LOOKING AT SOME NEW BUILDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT AND SPEAKING WITH OUR FOLKS THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF US HERE IN BAY COUNTY AND ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE. I THINK THERE'S A WEBSITE. MAYBE MR. SCHUBERT CAN TELL US WHAT WEBSITE YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH ALL THE BILLS ON. IS THERE A GOVERNMENT? EXCUSE ME? THIS IS ACTUALLY OVER HERE. THE FLORIDA SENATE AND THE HOUSE BOTH HAVE A WEBSITE THAT TRACKS. SO YOU CAN GO TO BOTH AND SEE WHO SPONSORED THEM AND FOLLOW THEM ACTUALLY IF YOU WANT TO. I'M NOT SURE OF THE WEBSITE, THE ACTUAL.COM, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN FIND IT PRETTY EASILY. BUT IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC BILL YOU WANT TO KEEP UP WITH, THEY HAVE A MECHANISM. YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT BILL AND FOLLOW IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND WATCH PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT IT AND SEE SEE HOW IT'S GOING ON. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, SIR. JUST A QUICK UPDATE. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SITTING ON THE MEXICO BEACH CDC BOARD, AND LAST WEEK WE WENT OUT, TOOK A BOAT OUT OF PORT SAINT JOE AT THE RAFFIELD FISHERY RIGHT THERE BY THE DOCKS, AND TOOK THE BOAT OUT TO THE MAIN CUTTER BOAT THAT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES OFFSHORE, AND GOT TO WITNESS THE ENTIRE OPERATION OF HOW WHERE THE SAND IS OUT THERE, HOW THEY'VE TESTED THE SAND. THEY ACTUALLY PUMP THE SAND FROM THAT BOAT ALL THE WAY, TWO AND A HALF MILES UP TO THE BEACH. WATCH THAT PROCESS GO. AND THEY HAVE BUILT MOST OF THE DUNES AND ABOUT 150 FOOT OF BEACH. THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. SO AND THEN THEY'LL START PUTTING ALL THE SEA OATS. SO IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO MEXICO BEACH, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERY ONE OF YOU TO GO OUT. IT IS DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT OVER THERE. IT LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL, BUT VERY PROUD OF MEXICO BEACH AND GET TO HONOR TO HELP THEM OUT OVER THERE. LOOKING FORWARD TO TALLAHASSEE AFTER PANAMA CITY'S COMMISSION MEETING TODAY. SO THANK YOU. WELL, FINALLY, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THE DOJ'S EFFORTS, THAT IS WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S EFFICIENCY PROGRAM IS

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