Apr 01, 2025 Board of County Commissioners

[CALL TO ORDER]

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SO APRIL 1ST MEETING.

FIRST OF ALL, LET US REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF WHO SERVED BAY COUNTY BEFORE US THAT WORKED SO HARD TO MAKE THIS LAND A PLACE THAT WE LOVE TO CALL HOME. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS EACH PERSON HERE TODAY, THAT YOU KEEP OUR COUNTY SAFE FROM HARM. THAT YOU PROTECT OUR LAW OFFICERS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, ALONG WITH THE CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY. WE PRAY FOR PEACE OVER OUR COUNTY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR NATION AND OUR PRESIDENT. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. LET ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. DO

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]

COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE NO

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

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IT'S NOT GOOD FOR US. OKAY. WHAT, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO GET DONE WITH THIS? BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ANY LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. WE DON'T ADDRESS THOSE TYPES FROM THE DAIS. IF YOU WILL WAIT AFTER THE MEETING. HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU. WE'LL WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING AND HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO THIS AS WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THIS HAS GOT TO BE, I LET HIM GO BECAUSE THIS IS THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. SINCE HE WAS GOING, I THOUGHT IT WAS ON THE AGENDA OF ONE PART. BUT IF THIS IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA,

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY UNDER THE CLERK'S OFFICE. ITEM ONE, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

CHECK, REGISTER AND INVENTORY. DELETIONS, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS AND APPROVE INVENTORY DELETIONS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE. ITEM TWO FY 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM THREE SUPPORT RESOLUTION FOR EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENTAL EFFICIENCY TEAM. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW CONDUCTED BY THE DOGE TEAM TO IDENTIFY AND ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY AND INAPPROPRIATE SPENDING. ITEM FOUR BOARD APPOINTMENTS, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVE VARIOUS BOARD APPOINTMENTS. ITEM FIVE ANCHORING OR MOORING AT SEAPORTS. OPPOSITION RESOLUTION TO HOUSE BILL 795 AND SENATE BILL 594. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE RESOLUTION OPPOSING HOUSE BILL 795, ALONG WITH ACCOMPANYING SENATE BILL 594, ENTITLED ANCHORING OR MOORING AT SEAPORTS. ITEM SIX RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION OF HOUSE BILL 991 AND SENATE BILL 21242. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION TO HOUSE BILL 991 AND SENATE BILL 1242, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION UNDER GENERAL SERVICES ITEM SEVEN, EASTERN SHIPYARD SPECIAL EVENT REQUEST STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE CLOSURE OF UNDER THE OAKS PARK ON APRIL 12TH, 2025 FOR EASTERN SHIPYARDS ANNUAL EMPLOYEE PICNIC UNDER OUTSIDE AGENCIES. ITEM EIGHT LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT CLEAR. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. PRELIMINARY APPROVED THE ATTACHED LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT CLEAR. SUBJECT TO TRIUMPH GULF COAST GRANT APPROVAL AND FINALIZATION OF EXHIBITS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM NINE PROPERTY TRANSFER TO THE BAY COUNTY CONSERVANCY. APPROVAL. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE CONVEYANCE OF JENKS AVENUE AND TRANSMITTER ROAD PROPERTIES TO THE BAY COUNTY CONSERVANCY, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE DEEDS AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS TO WHICH WILL BE RECORDED WITH THE CLERK OF THE COURT. ITEM TEN FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT ELECTRIC EASEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE ATTACHED EASEMENT TO FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE EASEMENT, CONVEYANCE AND

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AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER.

CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE.

[Public Works]

MOTION AND SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL.

YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NEXT FISCAL YEAR 25, ANNUAL RESURFACING PHASE ONE CONTRACT AWARD. YES, SIR. ON FEBRUARY 5TH, 2025, REQUEST FOR BIDS FOR THE FY 25 ANNUAL RESURFACING PHASE ONE PROJECT WAS ADVERTISED IN A PRE-BID MEETING WAS HELD ON FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025. STAFF EVALUATED THE BIDS AND C.W. ROBERTS CONTRACTING, INC. WAS THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS A AWARD CONTRACT. 25 DASH 27 FY 25 ANNUAL RESURFACING PHASE ONE PROJECT TO C.W. ROBERTS CONTRACTING, INC, IN THE AMOUNT OF. $1,217,910.15 AND BE AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ANY QUESTIONS? ON RESURFACING? HOW MANY? HOW MANY MILES IS THIS? THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILES. THIS IS SOME OF THESE ROADS ARE COMPLETE REBUILDS, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING UP ALL THE WAY TO THE BASE. AN UPGRADE ON ANY OF THIS? NO, SIR. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE.

YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. NUMBER 17, RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR PIPELINE ROAD EXTENSION TO KNEE-HIGH. ROAD TRIP GRANT APPLICATION. THANK YOU. EACH

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AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES,

[Utility Services]

COMMISSIONERS. THIS REQUEST TODAY IS TO FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE CONTRACT 2506 FOR FRANKFORT AVENUE BOOSTER STATION. IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,571,430 TO PHOENIX CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, INCORPORATED, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS WILL INCREASE THE PUMPING CAPACITY AND THE STORAGE CAPACITY AT THAT BOOSTER STATION, AND HELPING TO SERVICE THE WHOLESALE AREA WITH WATER AND PROVIDE SOME RESILIENCY DURING STORM EVENTS.

SO I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, MISTER CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST PUT THIS TOGETHER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS YOU HAD AN INITIAL BUDGET OF ABOUT 10 MILLION. RIGHT. THIS WAS ACTUALLY 11 MILLION. WAS THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATED COST FOR THIS PROJECT? YES, SIR. PERFECT.

OKAY. WELL, THIS IS GREAT. MOST OF THE BIDS ARE UNDER THAT AMOUNT. YES, SIR. THEY WERE.

GREAT. I MEAN, WE ALWAYS GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT PLENTY OF PRESSURE FOR THE BEACH. THAT'S.

ABSOLUTELY. SO CAPACITY IS. YEAH, WELL, ALMOST DOUBLING THE CAPACITY. STORAGE CAPACITY. AND THE PUMPING CAPACITY WILL ALSO INCREASE QUITE A BIT FOR THAT STATION. SO. TO YOUR POINT, I WAS, YOU KNOW, THE VARIABLE DRIVE THE PUMPS, HOW EFFICIENT THOSE ARE. I WAS RESEARCHING THOSE LAST NIGHT AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEM, BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC REALLY WISH THEY'D UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL AND EFFORT THAT GOES INTO MAKING THIS STATION EFFICIENT TO SAVE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS IN THE FUTURE, AT THE COST OF A LITTLE OVER $8.5 MILLION, WHICH IS A HEFTY EXPENSE. BUT THE GOOD THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM IT IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS. ABSOLUTELY. THIS WILL OUR AREAS. ABSOLUTELY. IT WILL HELP THE PANAMA CITY AND PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA FOR SURE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. GET A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAPHIEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL.

[Community Development]

THIS IS PLD, SAP 2024 0177. MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT MY FIRM IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT. SO ESSENCE OF CAUTION I'M GOING TO RECUSE. A

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INFRASTRUCTURE STAFF ALONG WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROVIDING THESE SERVICES. OBVIOUSLY, THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE DSAP APPLICATION THAT NOTES THAT IT'S NOT AN AUTHORIZATION FOR DEVELOPMENT TO BEGIN, AND NO DEVELOPMENT ORDERS WOULD BE APPROVED UNTIL THESE THINGS ARE AVAILABLE. WAS PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS ISN'T DOESN'T GIVE THE APPLICANT JUST A KIND OF FREE REIGN TO START DEVELOPING UNTIL THOSE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED. AND THAT JUST WONDER WHERE WE ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGES. I'M SURE THEY WOULD LIKE TO START ONE DAY. SO MANAGER, IF I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THAT'S NOT REALLY MR. PORTER'S AREA OF EXPERTISE. THAT'S MORE OF A UTILITY AREA.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THAT AREA. WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION TO SECURE THE NECESSARY DOLLARS TO START THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SEWER PLANT IN THE HIGHWAY 79 CORRIDOR. THE CURRENT TIMELINE HORIZON ON THAT IS OUR TIMELINE. HORIZON IS UP AND OPERATIONAL BY 2035. THAT WILL CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE PACE AT WHICH DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED TO OCCUR IN THAT CORRIDOR, SO THAT COULD BE ACCELERATED IF THOSE SERVICES ARE NEEDED SOONER. WE'RE ALSO, AGAIN IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR, HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SECURING FUNDING TO START THE PLANNING AND DESIGNING PROCESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANOTHER 60 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR, I'M SORRY, 60 PLUS MILLION GALLON PER DAY WATER TREATMENT PLANT UP ALONG THE HIGHWAY 77 CORRIDOR, WHICH WILL ONE PROVIDE US SOME RESILIENCY WITH OUR PLANT ON TRANSMITTER AND TWO ALSO PROVIDE

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REPRESENTATIVE. GOOD MORNING, I'M RAY GREER. MY ADDRESS IS 2910 KERRY FOREST PARKWAY, TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA, AND I AM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE. AND TO GO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS YOU ALL WERE DISCUSSING. SO THIS IS 1700 ACRES. IT IS 3330 UNITS AND 450,000FT■!S OF NON RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'LL BE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND THIS WILL OCCUR OVER THE NEXT 16 YEARS. SO WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM THAT TAKES US OUT 16 YEARS FROM TIME DEVELOPMENT STARTS. AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SECTOR PLAN PROCESS AND THE DSAP PROCESS. IT IS UNIQUE. THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT ACTUALLY HAS AN APPROVED SECTOR PLAN AND OPERATES OUT OF AN APPROVED SECTOR PLAN. THESE DSPS HAVE, WAYNE HAD MENTIONED THEY HAVE TO BE DONE. THEY'RE REQUIRED BY STATUTE TO DO THEM. AND YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY AN AREA OF MINIMUM OF 1000 ACRES, WHICH WE'VE DONE HERE. YOU PUT TOGETHER THE DSAP APPLICATION, WHICH ALSO AT THAT TIME ANALYZES WHAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE. YOU HAVE TO SET ASIDE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND YOUR NONRESIDENTIAL, AND THEN YOU ANALYZE THAT OVER THAT 16 YEAR PERIOD. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, OF COURSE THERE'S UTILITY ISSUES. WE KNOW THERE'S UTILITY ISSUES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM DSAP ONE, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 79, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN GETTING UTILITIES FROM THE SAME AREA THAT WOULD SERVE THIS HOUR. IN THE FUTURE, IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT FACILITY THAT DOES SERVE THIS. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE DSAP PROCESS DOES, ENABLES US TO TAKE ANALYZE THE IMPACTS, WHETHER IT WILL BE OVER THE LONG PLANNING HORIZON DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, BUT THEN WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT'S THE WHOLE TEN IS TO THEN PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY, WORK ON HOW THIS AREA IS GOING TO BE SHAPED.

THIS IS SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF 97,000 ACRES. THAT'S ALSO LOCATED IN THAT IN THE SECTOR PLAN. SO AS THE SECTOR PLAN IS A 50 YEAR PLAN HORIZON. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE DSPS AND BEGIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPING THESE AREAS, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO COME. I MEAN, THERE'S STILL 81,000 ACRES LEFT INSIDE THAT 97 THAT'S NOT INSIDE OF A DSAP YET THAT HAS NOT BEEN PLANNED. SO WHAT THE DSAP DOES, IT ALLOWS US, ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY START DETAILING MASTER PLANNING AND ENGINEERING PARTS OF THIS, WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT ORDER APPLICATION IS APPLIED FOR, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TO DO DEVELOPMENT ORDER APPLICATIONS FOR EACH PHASE AS THEY COME IN.

AND OF COURSE, UTILITIES AND ALL PUBLIC FACILITIES WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT THAT STAGE. SO THE SECTOR PLAN IS KIND OF A UNIQUE THING. IT IS A LONG TERM PLAN HORIZON. IT ACTUALLY PLANS FURTHER FURTHER OUT THAN YOUR OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. DOES. YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ONLY LOOKS 20 YEARS. THE SECTOR PLAN IS FOCUSED ON 50 YEARS, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT. I GOT A QUESTION. SO I WENT THROUGH THOSE 272 PAGES FOR SEVERAL DAYS LOOKING AT ALL THOSE LINES. AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF GREAT STUFF. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS PROJECTING THE GROWTH ON TODAY'S NUMBERS VERSUS THE COURSE OF 50 YEARS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING 17 MORE ADDITIONAL COPS PER 10,000 PEOPLE, LOOKING AT ADDING 1000 TO ROUGHLY STUDENTS, WHICH IS GREAT. HOW ARE YOU COMING UP WITH THOSE

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AND THAT'S DEFINITELY. AND THERE IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A FIRE STATION LOCATED IN THE AT TWO AT ONE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S YEAH, THAT WILL BE LOCATED. IT'S ACTUALLY WILL BE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 388. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE STAND. BUT IF SOMEBODY IN CITIZEN WANTS TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE ANY. IS THIS RELATED TO THIS DSAP. NO. OKAY. THIS THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THIS DSEP. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE FROM THE. GET A MOTION TO APPROVE LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER.

RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. AND COMMISSIONER

[County Attorney]

THE. WE HAVE HAD CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE PAST WHERE. I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW SOMEBODY. COMES TO US FOR THAT ZONING APPROVAL AND TELLS US THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A RESTAURANT THERE. AND IT TURNS OUT INSTEAD OF A RESTAURANT, THEY'RE OPERATING A NIGHTCLUB THERE. NIGHTCLUBS HAVE DIFFERENT ZONING ENTITLEMENTS AND RESTAURANTS. AND SO IF THEY WANT TO OPERATE A NIGHTCLUB THERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REEVALUATE WHETHER ZONING APPROVAL IS APPROPRIATE

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THAT'S WHAT'S COMING OUT. SO I ASSUME WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SO WHO'S UP FIRST? RIGHT. I WENT THROUGH THE PROPOSED NEW ORDINANCE, AND I WANTED TO LOOK BACK TO ACTUALLY WHAT YOU HAD TO DO WHEN YOU FILLED OUT AN APPLICATION TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE. AND THAT RUNS, OF COURSE, THROUGH THE DB, AND IT HAS EACH SECTION IN. YOU FILL OUT, YOU FILL OUT EACH SECTION. SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF JUST RUN THROUGH A COUPLE. I'M TRYING TO CONTINUE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND WHY WE NEED THE NEW ORDINANCE. THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST SECTION IS THE PLANNING IS UNDER SECTION TWO B, WHERE THE CHANGE IS THE REVIEW OF BUILDING OFFICIAL SHALL BE LIMITED TO LICENSE, WHICH ALLOW FOR CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL ON THE PREMISES. IF YOU GO TO THE FLORIDA STATUTE FIVE 61.14 C AND YOU'LL HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME JUST A MINUTE, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THESE SO THAT ON I CAN TALK WITH THEM INTELLIGENTLY. MAYBE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED A PART THAT SAYS, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN BEVERAGE LAW, A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHEN ENACTING ORDINANCES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE AND PROTECT GENERAL HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC, SHALL TREAT A LICENSEE IN A NONDISCRIMINATORY MANNER AND IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MANNER OF TREATMENT OR ANY OTHER LAWFUL BUSINESS TRANSACTED IN THE STATE. SO, AND I AM ABSOLUTELY NO LAWYER, AND PROBABLY AM NOT READING ANY OF THIS AS A LAWYER WOULD READ IT. BUT IT DOES SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BUILDING OFFICIALS REVIEW JUST THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL LICENSED. SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING THAT MAYBE DOESN'T WANT US TO. CHANGE THAT. THE SECOND ONE IS, NUMBER ONE, EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT THE APPLICANT KNOWINGLY SUBMITTED FALSE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION IN THE REQUEST. SO IF YOU GO TO SECTION NINE. I MAY HAVE TAKE THAT. IN THE SECTION NINE AFFIDAVIT OF APPLICANT.

NOTARIZED NOTARIZATION REQUIRED THE UNDERSIGNED INDIVIDUALLY ON BEHALF OF LEGAL ENTITY HERE, SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT I AM DULY AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THE ABOVE FOREGOING APPLICATION, AND AS SUCH, I SWEAR AND AFFIRM TO THE ATTACHED SKETCH TO BE TRUE AND CORRECT REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE AREA AND THE PREMISES TO BE LICENSED, AND AGREE THAT THE PLACE OF THE BUSINESS, IF LICENSED, MAY BE INSPECTED AND SEARCHED DURING BUSINESS HOURS OR AT ANY TIME. BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED ON THE PREMISES WITHOUT SEARCH WARRANT, WITHOUT WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT BY

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SO THESE PENALTIES THAT WE HAVE HERE ARE I CAN CONTINUE TO BORE EVERYONE AND GO AND READ THOSE.

BUT I'M NOT THAT GREAT OF A READER. SO I'M GOING TO LET YOU LOOK THOSE UP. OR I CAN CERTAINLY FURNISH ANYONE WITH A COPY. BUT THESE PENALTIES ARE, I ASSUME, BROUGHT TO US BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THE COUNTY SHOULD BE MORE STRICT THAN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE WOULD LIKE TO IF THEY IF THEY DID ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM NOT TO DO, THAT THEY'RE SWEARING UNDER OATH NOT TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE FOR 12 MONTHS. SO THE LIQUOR LICENSE VALUE IN SOME CASES IS 500, $700,000. THIS IS TO ME A LOT MORE PAINFUL THAN A THAN A FINE THAT FALLS UNDER SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES. NOW, THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT I SEE THAT WE COULD HAVE IS WHEN SOMEONE LEASES A LIQUOR LICENSE TO A BUSINESS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT HOW THAT WOULD YOU KNOW WHO DOES THE FINE GO TO THE BAR OWNER. DOES IT, IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE GUY THAT IS HE THE ONE THAT'S LOSING THE LEASE, YOU KNOW, FOR, I MEAN, THE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR 12 MONTHS, OR IS IT THE OWNER THAT OF THE BAR THAT HAS DONE OR THE RESTAURANT THAT HAS DONE SOMETHING INCORRECTLY? IF I CAN, IF I CAN LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT? I'M SORRY IF YOU DON'T, BECAUSE I'M TRYING. IF YOU CAN COME BACK TO IT, I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE BETTER OFF HERE. THE OPERATION OF THE CHANGE TO THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE IS USUALLY MATERIALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA USED. NOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT I HAD. THAT I HAD THAT ONE TOTALLY FIGURED OUT. AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT ONE. BRIAN, WHEN WE WHEN WE GET BACK TO IT. IF I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE HERE, I DO HAVE THE VIOLATIONS. IF A VIOLATION OCCURS. SO WE DO HAVE A MECHANISM ALREADY. IF A VIOLATION OCCURS, THERE'S AN ENTIRE OVERVIEW ON WHAT WHAT WHAT HAPPENS WHAT YOU DO DB HANDLES IT. I AGREE THAT DB IS SLOW AND TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET IT DONE, BUT I THINK THAT THESE LAWS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY PUT IN BY. THE STATE. MY NUMBER FOUR. THE DIVISION MAY NOT ISSUE A CHANGE IN THE SERIES OF LICENSES OR APPROVE A CHANGE IN THE LICENSE LOCATION UNLESS THE LICENSEE PROVIDES DOCUMENTATION, PROPER ZONING FROM THE APPROPRIATE COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL ZONING AUTHORITIES. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THIS IN HERE THAT THE DIVISION IS NOT GOING TO ISSUE A CHANGE. SO IF THE PEOPLE HAVE MADE A CHANGE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT COVERED. NOW, CERTAIN THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN HERE THAT I'M POSSIBLY NOT READING. RIGHT. OR LET ME JUST CHECK MY NOTES. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS EVERYTHING THAT I COULD FIND. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELP ME GET CORRECTED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO THE LANGUAGE ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO COME BACK TO REAPPLY FOR A LICENSE FOR 12 MONTHS, THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT PURSUANT TO THE DISCUSSION TWO WEEKS AGO. THE, THE CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE ABOUT. THE BUILDING OFFICIALS INVOLVEMENT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE

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SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT CHANGE. THE REST OF IT IS, IS HAS TO DO WITH THE DIFFERENT ROLE OF DBP VERSUS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO AGAIN, THE ONLY ROLE OF, OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS TO TELL DBP WHETHER OR NOT THE ZONING IS OKAY OR NOT. DBP DOESN'T INDEPENDENTLY CHECK ON THAT, THAT THAT'S EXCLUSIVELY THE ROLE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO OUR ROLE IS TO TELL DBP THAT ZONE CORRECTLY. THEIR ROLE IS TO DO ALL THE OTHER APPROVALS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IF, IF THEY LIE IN THE APPLICATION, WE CAN LET DBP KNOW THAT THE ZONING IS INCORRECT. SO IN LARGE PART WHAT WE PUT IN THAT SECTION ABOUT CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH WE CAN WITHDRAW THE ZONING APPROVAL, ARE ARE, LIKE I SAID, ARE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO. NOW WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT IN IN BLACK AND WHITE LANGUAGE THAT THAT THOSE ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH WE THINK THAT WE CAN WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. I THINK THAT ADDRESSES. ONLY IF SO, THE 12 MONTHS IS OUT, WHICH IS GOOD. WHAT IS THE PENALTY AT THAT POINT? THE PENALTY FOR. YEAH, WE WERE GOING TO WE WERE GOING TO PENALIZE THEM BY TAKING THE ALCOHOL LICENSE FOR 12 MONTHS. SO WHAT HAVE WE PUT IN PLACE OF THAT? AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE AWAY SOMEBODY'S LIQUOR LICENSE. THAT'S ISSUE BY DBP. THE ONLY THING THAT WE THE WHOLE POINT OF ALL THIS IS THAT ALL WE CAN DO IS LET DBP KNOW THAT WE DON'T THINK THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE FOR THE, FOR THE USE. AND ONCE WE SEND A LETTER TO DBP LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE NO LONGER THINK THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE, THAT ENDS OUR RULE.

THERE'S NO PENALTY, THERE'S NO FINES, THERE'S NO LICENSE. THE OUR OUR OUR JOB IS ONLY TO LET DBP KNOW THAT THE THAT WE NO LONGER BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PROPERTY. SO THAT'S I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT NOW. THAT'S WHY I'M CONCERNED WHY WE'RE EVEN WHY WE'RE EVEN BRINGING THIS UP AGAIN. ALL WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING THAT IN IN WRITING AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, GIVING THE APPLICANT THE ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THAT DECISION IF THEY DISAGREE WITH IT. BUT THE CALLS THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT OWN THAT OWN THESE TYPE LICENSES, THEY'RE SAYING THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM OR IF THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG, TO GO IN FRONT OF DBP. AND AT THAT POINT, THE BEGINNING PART OF GOING IN FRONT OF DBP, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND EXPEND, YOU KNOW, TO GO TO A MAGISTRATE. I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE NERVOUS TO GO TO A MAGISTRATE WITHOUT HAVING AN ATTORNEY. SO THEY THEY FELT LIKE WE ALREADY HAD AN AVENUE TO STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT SHOULD THEY NEED TO BE STRAIGHTENED OUT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD STILL BE CONCERNED WITH IS THE PERSON THAT LEASED THE LICENSE TO THIS PERSON. THAT'S MADE THE ERROR. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW THAT THAT GUY FALLS IN THERE. AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE ARE GIVING THIS TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO OVERSEE, AND WE'RE NOT GIVEN OTHER THINGS LIKE MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTOR PLACES WHERE YOU GO BUY, BUY, BUY POT. WHAT I'M STILL YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT. I MEAN, THAT'S THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OBVIOUSLY WOULD REVIEW ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REGARDLESS. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES ON MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES, BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS ORDINANCE. THOSE ARE ON ON LIQUOR. BUT I JUST I JUST READ IN HERE AND MAYBE I'M NOT READING IT RIGHT. AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THAT I AM, BUT IT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE TREATING THESE FACILITIES THE SAME AS WE WOULD ANY OTHER

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WE'RE NO LONGER BELIEVE THAT THE LIQUOR LICENSE THAT THAT THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY WAS APPROPRIATE. AND BECAUSE THE INTENDED USE FOR THE PROPERTY. WOULD, WOULD NOT MEET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY. AND THAT WAS THE THAT'S THE END OF OUR INVOLVEMENT. AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE INVOLVEMENT UNDER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, EXCEPT UNDER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, THE APPLICANT INVOLVED WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHALLENGE THAT DECISION IN FRONT OF THE IN FRONT OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WHICH WAS WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CURRENTLY IS PROVIDED, A GOOD MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE LEFT WITH THE APPEARANCE THAT THIS IS WELL ESTABLISHED. THIS IS AN ONGOING LONG TERM CONCERN, PRIMARILY IN AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT INTERFACE WITH RESIDENTIAL. THE OPERATIONAL PRACTICALITY OF THIS IS YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT COMES IN, APPLIES FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE. AS BRIAN SAID, OPERATE A RESTAURANT, OPERATES A RESTAURANT, MAYBE TILL 10 OR 11:00 AT NIGHT, AND THEN DECIDES TO TURN INTO A NIGHTCLUB AFTER 11. THE PUBLIC THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PUTTING UP WITH THE IMPACT OF OPERATION OF A NIGHTCLUB AND NOT A RESTAURANT. AND SO THE PUBLIC COMES BEFORE YOU AND WANTS THAT ADDRESSED THAT. THAT'S WHERE THIS IS FROM. SO THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT IS YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WHO REPRESENTED AN AN APPLICATION. THEY WERE GOING TO OPERATE ONE WAY AND THEN YOU OPERATE ANOTHER WAY. AND THAT WAY IS ADVERSE TO THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY HAS COME BEFORE THIS BODY IN THE PAST AND SAID, WE WANT THAT APPROACH. THAT'S THE REASON THAT THIS TOOL. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT FREQUENTLY. WE DO HAVE RECURRING ISSUES WITH 1 OR 2 ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COUNTY.

KIND OF SET THE EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS NEEDED. BUT BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T DO. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT UNLIKE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WE DON'T DO BUSINESS LICENSING. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MECHANISM TO CONTROL OR TO EVALUATE CHANGE OF USE. SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, I'M GOING TO DO A RESTAURANT, WE TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD, THEY'RE ZONED CORRECTLY, THEY GO ON AND THEY OPERATE. IT ISN'T UNTIL WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A NO LONGER OPERATING AS A RESTAURANT. THAT'S TECHNICALLY CALLED A CHANGE OF USE. THAT CHANGES A LOT OF THINGS. IT DOESN'T JUST CHANGE THE ZONING, IT CHANGES FIRE CODE. IT CHANGES BUILDING CODE TO THE BUILDING. OFFICIALS REQUEST ON THIS THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS INTENDED TO BE LIMITING OR TO LIMIT THE CONDITIONS. THAT WAS THE REQUEST AND THAT IT BE LIMITED TO JUST THIS SPECIFIC AREA, NOT THE ENTIRE BUILDING CODE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO BUT AGAIN, I DIDN'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE LEFT WITH THIS IS JUST BECAUSE OF ONE ESTABLISHMENT. THIS HAS BEEN MULTIPLE ESTABLISHMENT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES WITH AND THIS HAS BEEN. BAD WRANGLE THAT UNDER CONTROL WHEN WE GET BAD ACTORS. AND I WILL SAY THAT MOST HOLDERS

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THANK YOU, MR. REBECCA. YES, SIR. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THIS ON THE BOOKS. THIS IS APPROVED. IF WE DIDN'T EVEN ADOPT THESE CHANGES, IT'S STILL ON THE BOOKS THAT THAT WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE. MY UNDERSTANDING, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM MISTAKEN, IS BASICALLY WE'RE JUST KIND OF IDENTIFYING TO AN APPLICANT THAT IF YOU DO ANY OF THESE THINGS, WE'RE GOING TO TELL THE STATE THAT YOU'RE NOT OPERATING UNDER THE, YOU KNOW, THE PREMISE THAT YOU FILE THE APPLICATION ON, IT'S JUST LISTING THE DETAILS THAT ARE BASICALLY IN THE CODE ALREADY.

THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO GO FIND THEM. WE'RE PULLING THEM OUT OF THE CODE, PUT IT IN ONE DOCUMENT AND SAY, HERE'S THE BREACH. IF YOU DO ANY OF THESE THINGS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO NOTIFY THE STATE. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S DESCRIBING DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH THE ZONING THEY MAY BE ACTING OUTSIDE THE ZONING CATEGORY. AND OUR OUR ROLE IS ONLY TO NOTIFY DBR. THAT'S THE CASE. WE'RE NOT PICKING ON ANYBODY. THIS IS NOT YOU KNOW, AND WE ONLY DO THIS PROCESS BECAUSE DBR SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO VERIFY THIS. IF THEY COME DOWN AND SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO INSPECT MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES, THEN WE WOULD DO THAT AS WELL. BUT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THAT FROM THE STATE. I MEAN, WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS WE HAVE TO DO THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. THERE'S A THERE'S A AS COMMISSIONER PEASE POINTED OUT, THERE'S A THERE'S A SECTION OF THE OF THE DBP PERMIT APPLICATION WHICH ASKS THE COUNTY TO, TO SIGN, SAYING THAT THEY BELIEVE THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE. IS IT PART OF THE CRITERIA? BECAUSE THE QUESTION WHETHER IT'S THE PLANNING OFFICIAL OR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, WE HAVE LISTED IN HERE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHECK STORMWATER DRAINAGE, LANDSCAPING, ENVIRONMENTAL SITE DESIGN, STRUCTURAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, MECHANICAL, IF THOSE ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE, OR IS THAT WHAT WE CHOSE FOR US TO INSPECT? THAT PART ISN'T CHANGING, OF COURSE, BUT. AND I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR AS COMMISSIONER PEASE MAY BE ABOUT THE REGULATIONS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE. SO BUT BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS UNCHANGED NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT. RIGHT. WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE SCOPE OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. HE USED TO HAVE TO GO INSPECT EVERY ONE OF THEM. CORRECT. SO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED.

THANK YOU. I THINK WE'VE GIVEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE. WE'RE NOT OF COURSE WE'RE NOT OVER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. WE DON'T TELL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHAT TO DO. AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN CONTROL OF BEING ABLE TO DO THIS OTHER THAN THIS ZONING. THIS THIS WAS UNDER ZONING. WHERE, WHERE WAS BUILDING EVER EVEN ON THIS? BECAUSE AT ONE TIME YOU HAD A BUILDING AND. CODE ON HERE AND YOU TOOK CODE OFF AND BUT BUILDINGS STILL LEFT HERE. I'M NOT. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLANNING OFFICIAL. AND BUILDING OFFICIAL SHALL INSPECT. AND WHAT HE'S CHANGING IS THAT HE'S REDUCING THE SCOPE ONLY DUE TO CONSUMPTION. THEY WERE DOING ALL OF THEM BEFORE. BUT MAYBE THAT'S RIGHT. BUT IT'S ALREADY DONE ON THE APPLICATION THAT ALL THAT BE DONE WITH A DRAWING OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO I'M JUST SAYING I STILL AND I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO ARGUE. WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO GET THROUGH TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'VE GIVEN ME TO ARGUE IT. I JUST STILL DISAGREE THAT WE NEED IT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO WORK ON THE RULES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING SOME NEW ONES THAT COULD COMPLICATE THINGS MORE AND CAUSE PEOPLE MORE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO HIRE LAWYERS TO GO TO THESE OTHER. COURT HEARINGS. ALL

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EXISTING ORDINANCE. I THINK THE HARD LANGUAGE WE HAD IN THERE BEFORE, SINCE THAT WAS REMOVED AND WE CAN'T REVOKE THE LICENSE ANYWAY. I LIKE IT BETTER ABOUT THAT. OKAY, CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.

YES. TO COMMISSIONER CARROLL'S POINT, THE PEOPLE I SPOKE TO HAD THE SAME SENTIMENTS THAT THEY LIKED IT BETTER, THAT WE REMOVED THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE TWO VIOLATIONS, THAT THAT WAS SCARY.

THAT WAS OVERREACH, NO DOUBT. BIG GOVERNMENT THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. AND TWO, IT SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS. IN MY OPINION, WE'RE WE MADE IT BETTER. WE DIDN'T ADD TO IT. WE REMOVED FROM. AND SO THE PEOPLE THAT I SERVE ARE IN AGREEANCE. AND I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK IF WE'RE DOING THAT WE'RE DOING OUR JOBS. IF THEY LIKE, LIKE THAT, THEN WE'RE REPRESENTING THEM. AND I. I JUST DON'T SEE THE EXTRA OPTION TO COME BEFORE MAGISTRATE, BEFORE WE REPORT THEM TO DPR. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION, AM I CORRECT? IS THAT THE INTENT? THE INTENT IS THAT. WHAT WE'RE ADDING IS BEFORE WE NOTIFY DPR, THAT WE THINK THERE'S A ZONING PROBLEM, WE WILL NOTIFY THE APPLICANT AND GIVE THEM, IF THEY DISAGREE THAT THERE'S A ZONING ISSUE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO CONTEST THE DECISION BY THE STATE. SO THE INTENT IS TO GIVE AN EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION FOR THE LICENSE HOLDER BEFORE NOTIFY THE DVR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR.

WILL WE GET A MOTION OR WE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. NO, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THAT WE COME TO

[PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)]

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APPROVE SOMETHING TO DO ON CRAFT AVENUE OR FIND ANOTHER SOURCE SO THAT THESE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HIGH STIMULI ENVIRONMENT TO GET TO THEIR CLASSROOM. THAT IS ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR. YES, SIR. IF YOU WOULD JUST AFTER THE MEETING, IF YOU WOULD GET WITH MISS SHERRY HERE SO WE CAN GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU AND GET BACK WITH YOU. YES, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT? SEEING NO OTHERS GO ON TO NEXT. AND I

[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT]

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AND AGAIN, ON THE SETTLEMENT TERMS. CENTOS HAS NOT ADMITTED THAT THEY'VE DONE ANY WRONGDOING. THERE HASN'T BEEN A COURT JUDGMENT, BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO SET ASIDE WHATEVER IT IS, $45 MILLION TO FUND THESE CLASS ACTION CLAIMS. AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S THE DEADLINE TO DO THAT. SO. I DO NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD ON ON WHETHER TO.

SUBMIT A CLAIM TODAY OR OR WHETHER TO LEAVE IT LIVE. I'M SORRY, DID DID YOU BRING ANYTHING WITH YOU TODAY THAT WOULD QUANTIFY THAT? BAY COUNTY SUFFERED A LOSS. I KNOW YOU THAT THAT SHOWS SOME MEAT ON THEM BONES BEFORE I SO WE HAVE NOT VERIFIED THAT THE THAT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY SUFFERED A LOSS. WHAT I AM DESCRIBING IS, IS THAT THERE IS A THERE'S A POSSIBLE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE WOULD HAVE SUFFERED A LOSS AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THROUGH THE NORMAL AUDIT REVIEW PROCESS. SO WHETHER WE WERE ACTUALLY HARMED, I DON'T KNOW.

AND IT WOULD TAKE LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO DO THAT ANALYSIS TO CONFIRM WHETHER THAT'S THE CASE.

WHAT PROPORTION OF THAT. SO WE HAD, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS UNIFORM CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH CENTOS WAS OVER MANY YEARS, BUT OVER THOSE YEARS WE HAD TOTAL INVOICING OF WELL OVER $1 MILLION. AND THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS AT THEY WILL GIVE US A MAXIMUM OF 5% REBATE BACK, CAPPED AT THE TOTAL SETTLEMENT THAT THEY'VE PUT ON ON THE TABLE OF 45 MILLION. FOR YOU KNOW, COUNTRYWIDE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH CENTOS. WE DO BUT WE HAVE A WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CONTRACT THAT HAD BETTER, BETTER PRICE POINTS THAN THE CONTRACT THAT. WE HAD THROUGH THE PIGGYBACK. I THINK IT WAS 1.1 MILLION WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH TEN TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS. HOW MANY YEARS HAS THAT BEEN? I THINK MAYBE SINCE 2012. IT'S BEEN MANY YEARS. ACTS OF BE ABOUT $55,000, AND IT WAS THE INITIAL CONTRACT THAT WE FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, BRIAN, IS IT WAS THE INITIAL CONTRACT AND THEY GAVE US THIS PRICING AND WE APPROVED BASED UPON THE PRICING THAT THEY PROVIDED US IN THE PIGGYBACK. SO THAT WAS THE BENEFIT OF OUR BARGAIN. WE CONTRACTED SAYING WE WERE OKAY WITH THAT AMOUNT AT THAT TIME. AND AS WE WENT FORWARD, WE WENT BACK TO THEM AND WE ENTERED INTO A NEW CONTRACT, AND WE NEGOTIATED THAT PRICE POINT DOWN. CORRECT? YEAH. AND THE ALLEGATION IN THE COMPLAINT IS THAT THE, THE

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THAT'S ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT THIS UNIFORM CONTRACT, I BELIEVE COVERS ROADS AND BRIDGES. THOSE ARE RESTRICTED REVENUES. THAT'S WHY WE RECEIVE. IF WE RECEIVE REVENUE BACK, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO BACK INTO. OKAY. SO TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, WHERE THAT WILL HELP IS IT COULD HELP WITH FUTURE UNIFORM COSTS. IT COULD HELP WITH ANYTHING IN THOSE FUNDS THAT THOSE DOLLARS CAN LEGALLY BE SPENT ON. SO THERE WILL BE A BENEFIT BACK. WE JUST HELP THIS GENTLEMAN WITH HIS DAUGHTER WITH THIS SIDEWALK. COULD THAT MONEY GO TO THAT? POSSIBLY I DON'T I DON'T I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT RIGHT OFF, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN. BUT YEAH. YEAH, BUT IT CAN IT CAN BE REFLECTED BACK AS A BENEFIT. ABSOLUTELY. I IF I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS AFTER WE FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY'S NOT DOING DOING THE RIGHT THING OVERCHARGING US, I'M NOT SURE WHY WE CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. AND WE HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT WE'VE DONE THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE TIMES THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD NEVER USE AGAIN. AND I DON'T LIKE THESE TYPE LAWSUITS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR INSURANCE RATES GO UP ANY MORE THAN THEY ARE NOW. THAT'S WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME ABOUT JOINING IN A LAWSUIT THAT WE'RE NOT 100%, 100% SURE THAT WE HAVE A LOSS ON. IT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOSS. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO ANTE UP 45 MILLION, THEN I THINK THEY MUST THINK THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING A LITTLE UNDERCOVER.

SO. THERE WE GO. YEAH. FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT COMES ON BOTH SIDES. BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT I COME DOWN TO IS INITIALLY WE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH THAT PRICING, AND THAT PRICING WAS IN WHAT WE AGREED TO. AND WE CONSIDER THAT PRICING TO BE OKAY. IF YOU LOOK BACK, I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE RENEGOTIATED, BUT IT COMES TO ABOUT $5,000 A YEAR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND SO IF WE COME DOWN TO IT, YOU KNOW, COULD WE DO IT? I KIND OF TEND TO FALL ALONG THE LINES OF BOTH WHAT CLARE HAS SAID, AS WELL AS ROBERT ABOUT THE FACT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD DO IT. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY GO BACK TO SOMETHING, MY FATHER KIND OF TRAINED INTO ME. JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE DOES SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING IT AS WELL. SO FROM THIS STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I DANIEL, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT AND YOUR HEART OF WANTING TO LOOK OUT FOR THOSE OTHERS, BUT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT FROM MY COMMENTS IN A SECOND ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS. BUT BUT FROM THIS STANDPOINT, I, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE, WE ENTERED INTO THIS CONTRACT, THEIR SERVICES WERE PROVIDED, WE ENTERED INTO A REVISED CONTRACT. WE GOT ANOTHER PRICING THAT WE WANTED.

PERSONALLY, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T SEE CHASING AFTER THIS MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING FROM THAT STANDPOINT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. BUT THAT'S WHERE I FALL. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CALL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS TO WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO WALK FROM IT OR, OR. OKAY. SO TO USE YOUR ANALOGY FOR YOUR FAMILY, WE'RE GOING TO FISH OR CUT BAIT. SO I AGREE FROM THAT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, ARE WE DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO FOR THESE FUNDS, OR DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CHOOSE NOT TO GO FOR THESE FUNDS. BUT WE GOT TO DO IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE BOARD? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE DO NOT GO FOR THESE FUNDS. IT'S NOT OUR MONEY. ALL RIGHT. SECOND, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT TO THE LAST ITEM IS. IS REGARDING A CITY OF PANAMA CITY PROPOSAL TO

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SOME OF THE 15TH STREET CORRIDOR. AND THEY PROVIDED US A FORMAL NOTICE OF THAT. AND WE HAVE THREE DAYS FROM THE TIME OF THAT FORMAL NOTICE TO, TO ADVISE THEM AS A BOARD THAT WE HAVE COMPETING POLICY GOALS FOR HOW THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPENT. AND THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR BOARD AND THEIR BOARD TO DISCUSS. A WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE COMPETING POLICY GOALS. AND. FOR INSTANCE, IN THE IN A PRIOR SITUATION. THAT WAS ADDRESSED BY THEM OFFERING A, A, A REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF THE OF THE TIFF THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE WHEN THEY WENT TO EXPAND THE DOWNTOWN NORTH CRA TO INCLUDE. TO INCLUDE THE FORMER FORMER MALL PROPERTY AND THAT 30 DAY CLOCK WILL RUN BEFORE THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING AND BEFORE THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING. I THINK THERE'S ONGOING DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN. THE OUR STAFF AND THEIR STAFF ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, BUT I WOULD LIKE PERMISSION TO FORMALLY NOTIFY THE PAMELA CITY THAT WE DO HAVE COMPETING POLICY GOALS FOR THE USE OF THESE FUNDS. SO THAT WE MEET THAT 30 DAY DEADLINE IN THE EVENT THAT THAT ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED BEFORE THAT POINT. I COULD ADD TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. CITY STAFF ON THIS ISSUE, TO REITERATE WHAT WHAT BRIAN SAID, IN THE PAST, WE'VE ASKED FOR A CARVE OUT ON THE TIFF, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, OUR PRIMARY CONCERN OR WHAT WE VIEW AS THE FLAW WITH CRAS IS THAT AS THEY GROW AND THEY REINVEST AND THEY CREATE NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY PUT ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, NOT ONLY BEHALF OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, BUT ALSO. SO WHEN REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL, YOU HAVE INCREASES IN BUSINESSES, YOU HAVE INCREASES IN TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE INCREASES IN POPULATION. THAT PUTS A FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE COURT SYSTEM, ON THE JAIL, ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SERVICES THAT WE ARE STILL REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THAT INCREASED DEMAND INCREASES AS A RESULT OF THAT GROWTH. SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE IS WE ASK FOR A CARVE OUT FROM THE CRA TO CONTINUE COMING INTO THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THE INCREASES, THOSE INCREASES THAT THAT FUTURE GROWTH. SO PREVIOUSLY THAT NUMBER WAS ABOUT 15%. WE'VE ASKED THE CITY TO CARVE OUT 26% IN THIS AGREEMENT TO BE THE OFFSET TO THIS COMPETING NEEDS.

IF YOU RECOLLECT, IN OUR COUNTY BUDGET, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PORTION OF THE COUNTY BUDGET THAT COMES IN FROM AD VALOREM. AND THE PREPONDERANCE OF THAT IS EXPENDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE JAIL, THE SHERIFF, EMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THE COURT SYSTEM. SO STAFF FEELS THAT THAT THAT NUMBER IS APPROPRIATE. AND WE'VE PUT THAT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE CITY STAFF.

WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THAT BACK IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT COMES POTENTIALLY BEFORE YOU IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU GUYS TO SIGN OFF AND APPROVE THIS. BUT TO BRIAN'S POINT, IN THE EVENT WE CAN'T REACH THOSE TERMS, WE DO NEED TO PRESERVE OUR ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THAT. AND SO WE HAVE THAT. WE THINK WE CAN RESOLVE IT AT THE STAFF LEVEL, AND IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE. BUT WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION UNDER STATUTE TO TIMELINES. IF WE WANT TO DO THAT. WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY MANAGER OR COUNTY ATTORNEY OR. THAT I JUST ASK? WE MAKE SOMEBODY A MOTION THAT WE IDENTIFY THE CITY REGARDING THIS MATTER. MAKE A MOTION, SECOND MOTION A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER RAPHAEL. YES,

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[COUNTY MANAGER REPORT]

[CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

FIRST, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT HAVE HAVE COME TO LIGHT REGARDING GULF OIL MARINE PARK. I'VE NEVER ADVOCATED TO SHUT DOWN ANY BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAS BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS. IT IS, HOWEVER, IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHALLENGES THE PARK IS FACED WITH WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE AND THEIR FACILITIES WELL-BEING OF ANIMALS, ESPECIALLY DOLPHINS AND THEIR CARE. THE DOLPHINS, AS WELL AS OTHER MARINE LIFE, ARE PROTECTED SPECIES AND THEIR WELFARE IS NOT ONLY A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT IT'S A LEGAL ONE. I HOPE THAT THE OWNERS AND THE STAFF AT GULF WORLD WILL UPDATE THE FACILITIES AND PROVIDE A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR THE ANIMALS, AND TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MARINE CONSERVATION. I BOUGHT A TICKET AND VISITED THE PARK MYSELF AFTER SEEING ALL THE FACEBOOK POSTS BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE IT MYSELF, SO I BOUGHT A TICKET ON THE MARCH THE 21ST AND I WALKED THROUGH THE ENTIRE FACILITY AND I BOUGHT A TICKET ON MARCH THE 23RD AND DID THE SAME TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES IN THE WAY THEY WERE HANDLING THE ANIMALS OR THE WATER QUALITY OR CONSTRUCTION DEFECTS OR LEAKS OR ANY OF THESE TYPE THINGS. I SAW SEVERAL THINGS AT THE PARK THAT I FELT LIKE NEEDED TO BE LOOKED INTO BY THE PROFESSIONALS IN THIS INDUSTRY. I, ALONG WITH MAYOR TESTERMAN, STATE SENATOR JAY TRUMBULL, REPRESENTATIVE GRIFF GRIFFINS AND OTHERS HAD A MEETING ON MARCH THE 24TH IN CITY HALL AT THE BEACH. STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WERE ASKED TO DO A FULL INVESTIGATION. FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE, PANAMA CITY BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE USDA ARE WORKING ON A FULL INVESTIGATION. AS WE SPEAK, BAY COUNTY AND THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH ARE IN LOCKSTEP ON THIS ISSUE, AND WE AWAIT THE FINALIZATION OF THE REPORTS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. GULF WORLD, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, HAS FILED FOR CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT HOW EVERYONE PROCEEDS IN THEIR INVESTIGATION, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY'LL GET IT FIGURED OUT AND MAYBE WE CAN BE A PART IN HELPING THEM GET SQUARED AWAY OUT THERE. THE SECOND THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE POLICE, THE SHERIFF'S AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE HIGHWAY PATROL. I JUST WANT TO TRY TO READ THIS AGAIN. I'M I'M HERE WITH DEEP SENSE OF GRATITUDE AND ADMIRATION FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS DURING SPRING BREAK, WE HAVE WITNESSED THEIR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF BOTH OUR RESIDENTS AND THOUSANDS OF VISITORS WHO COME TO ENJOY OUR BEACH EACH YEAR. SPRING BREAK BRINGS ITS CHALLENGES AND THIS YEAR HAS BEEN NO EXCEPTION. THERE HAS BEEN VIOLENCE AND UNREST BROUGHT TO OUR BEACHES IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE'VE SEEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS STEPPING INTO AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SITUATION TO PROTECT AND SHIELD OTHERS FROM HARM. THEY HAVE DONE MORE THAN JUST ENFORCE THE LAW. THEY HAVE PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO ENSURE OUR SAFETY.

I PERSONALLY, I PERSONALLY WATCH THEM AS THEY DO THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR, NEVER SEEKING PRAISE BUT ALWAYS DESERVING IT. THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF THANKS AND PRAISE THAT CAN FULLY EXPRESS THE GRATITUDE WE HAVE TO THESE OFFICERS, AND THEIR SACRIFICES AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION. I WANT TO OFFER A HEARTFELT THANKS TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE PANAMA CITY BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL. YOU ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR SAFETY AND WE ARE ALL BETTER FOR YOUR SERVICE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AT SPRING

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AND WE HAVE CREATED A PUBLIC SAFETY RESERVE OF 3.5 MILLION FOR EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES.

SHOULD THEY ARRIVE NOW? THE INCIDENT AT PIER PARK, THERE WERE PROBABLY 50 POLICE OFFICERS THERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED. SOME OF THEM WERE AS CLOSE FROM ME TO THIS WALL WHEN IT OCCURRED. SO IT WAS NOT THEIR LACK OF BEING WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE. THEY WERE ALSO ANOTHER 50 AT LAKETOWN AND SHORES OF PANAMA. AND THEY ARE OUT THERE. THEY'RE CHECKING EVERYTHING THEY CAN CHECK AND THEY'RE DOING ALL THEY CAN DO. PLEASE STAND WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE TODAY, IF YOU WOULD. I HAD ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO SAY. WE ABOUT THE CRA. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRAS A LITTLE BIT TODAY AND I THINK WE HAVE 13 CRAS, 13 TOTAL, BAY COUNTY AND THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR MONTHS ON END TO CREATE AN AGREE UPON A PLAN THAT WOULD ENSURE THE ROAD PROJECTS ARE FULLY THE ROAD PROJECTS THAT ARE FULLY UNDERWAY WOULD BE COMPLETED IN A TIME FRAME THAT WOULD SAVE THE CITIZENS ALMOST $1 BILLION. YOU GUYS WERE HERE AND HEARD US DISCUSSING IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT. WE MET WITH THE CITY ON. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TIMES. WE HAD A LOT OF FIGHTS AND A LOT OF AND A LOT OF HUGS, AND WE AND WE ENDED UP SAVING $1 BILLION ON ON THE PROJECT OVERALL FOR THE CITIZENS. THIS IS THIS IS BEING DONE BY FINISHING THE PROJECT IN A. EXPEDITIOUS TIME PERIOD, SHALL WE SAY, IF WE DRAG IT OUT, IF WE DON'T COMPLETE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHEN WE DRAG THIS OUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGAIN, THE PRICE ONLY GOES UP. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT WHAT YOU BOUGHT LAST YEAR IS MORE EXPENSIVE THIS YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE FOLLOWING FOLLOWING YEARS.

SO I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL SEE THAT THE COST SAVING MEASURES ALLOW THE CRA TO COMPLETE THE WORK ON PANAMA CITY BEACH AND OUR OTHER CRAS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, AND LET'S CONTINUE TO SAVE THAT THOSE DOLLARS FOR THE CITIZENS AND NOT JUST HAVE TO PAY THEM TENFOLD AT A LATER DATE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU FOR. THANK YOU, I FEEL IT'S HARD TO GO BEHIND CLARE BECAUSE SHE SHE'S GOT A NOTEBOOK OVER THERE AND EVERYTHING'S IN THERE. EVEN FRIDAY'S WINNING LOTTERY NUMBERS. BUT TO HER POINT, SHE'S RIGHT. WE OWE AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF GRATITUDE TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS. WITHOUT THOSE GUYS OUT DOING THEIR JOBS. MAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT SPRING BREAK WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO TO YOUR POINT, WANT TO THANK THEM ALSO, TOO? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAY 1ST, I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA TO HAVE MR. DUSTY MAY COME SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. SAINT JOE BAY, SAINT ANDREWS BAY, LAKE WIMICO AND SOME OF THE THINGS, THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING. ON SEEKING SUPPORT OF THE BOARD. HE'S ALREADY GOT THE APPROVAL OF GULF COUNTY'S BOARD. CHINA WORKING TOGETHER. CLAIRE AND I SERVE ON THE BOARD TOGETHER. THAT DOES SOME THINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL, THE WATERWAYS AND WATERSHED AND STUDIES AND TRYING TO TRY TO HELP THAT OUT. BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE HIM COME SPEAK TO THE BOARD AND GIVE HIS PERSPECTIVE. AND THAT'S I'VE I'VE ATTACHED EVERYONE'S NOTES HERE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND THEIR DIRECTION, IF POSSIBLE. MAY 1ST. WHO IS THIS AGAIN MR. DOCTOR DUSTY MAY. WHAT IS IT HE'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING, SEEKING OUR APPROVAL ON SUPPORTING THEIR EFFORTS IN RESEARCH. THE WATERWAYS, THE WATERSHED, THE INLETS, THE BAYOUS, SAINT ANDREWS BAY. AND MY THOUGHTS ARE MAYBE ONE DAY THIS WILL HELP OPEN EAST PASS. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO GET THAT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE HAVE FOUGHT THAT BATTLE AND FOUGHT THAT BATTLE, AND EVERY TIME WE CAN GET SOME MORE DATA THAT SUPPORTS OUR CALLS, I THINK THIS I THINK THIS HELPS IN THE FUTURE. SO I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT

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IT WAS A BIG DREAM AND WE DIDN'T THINK WE'D EVER ACHIEVED THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE HAD TO GET. BUT YOU GUYS DID IT AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. IT LOOKS GREAT OVER THERE AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT PROJECT. COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS. AMNESTY DAY WE HAVE APRIL 25TH 26TH. SO IT'S TIME TO CLEAN OUT THAT GARAGE, CLEAN OUT THAT SPARE BEDROOM. GET YOUR JUNK OUT OF THE HOUSE. THERE IS NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. TAKE THE JUMP. GO TAKE IT UP TO THE LANDFILL AND GET THAT GARAGE BACK IN ORDER. I KNOW I NEED TO DO IT. EASTER EGG HUNT UP AT HARPER'S PARK, APRIL 12TH. FROM 1 TO 3. WE'RE HOSTING IT. THAT IS ON 8110 JOHN PITTS ROAD. SO PLEASE COME OUT AND SEE THE EASTER BUNNY, HUNT SOME EGGS AND WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THREE WEEKS FROM TODAY, ELECTION DAY. WE'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS ELECTIONS ALL THROUGHOUT AND DO YOUR PART AND GO OUT AND VOTE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. AND TO SPEAK ON SPRING BREAK AS WELL. I JUST SAY KUDOS TO SHERIFF TOMMY FORD AND HIS TEAM CHIEF TALAMANTEZ AND HIS TEAM, PANAMA CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM OVER THE WEEKEND AND YESTERDAY JUST THEY CLAIRE, YOU SAID IT. WELL, THEY THEY DO YEOMAN'S WORK AND YOU KNOW, THIS ONE EVENT THAT DID HAPPEN AND PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF PROBABLY ABOUT 7 OR 8 EVENTS THAT THEY PREVENTED FROM HAPPENING FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS. APPRECIATE THE TDC WITH THOSE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT 10% OF THOSE PENNIES BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO PUBLIC SAFETY AND REIMBURSEMENT AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. I DO THINK THIS CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS THE COMMISSION TO HAVE SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW OUR PREDECESSORS DID THINGS TO BEGIN RAINING IN SPRING BREAK EARLIER AND CHANGING IT TO A MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY THING. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US NOW. I THINK THE CITIZENS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THIS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CONTINUING TO WORK, TO MAKE THIS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO COME VISIT, BUT ALSO A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO LIVE.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS. I WOULD ASK, AND I'M SURE ALL OF Y'ALL FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS. LET'S BE SHARING THOSE WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER. LET'S BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER WITH WITH THE PANAMA CITY BEACH AND BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, BUT TO ALSO PROTECT THOSE THAT COME AND VISIT US. I KNOW TOURISM SOMETIMES GETS A BAD RAP, BUT IT IS A IT IS THE LIFELINE THAT IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF WHAT THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS ALLOWED US TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD LIVING AND A PRETTY GOOD RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US, AND HAS ALLOWED US TO KEEP OUR TAXES AT A FAIRLY DECENT LEVEL AS WELL. SO THERE'S A TENSION THERE, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME WORK THAT WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT AND STILL BE ABLE TO BE ONE OF THE PREMIER DESTINATIONS FOR CITIZENS TO COME AND VISIT. CLAIRE, I WILL SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING LEAD ON STUFF RELATED TO GOLF WORLD. I'VE HAD SOME INDIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS AND THEY TOLD ME THEY TALKED TO YOU. I SAID, THEN I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. JUST TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN. BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE WAVES OF SPRING BREAK COMING, PLEASE. YOU KNOW, BE SAFE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO. MR. MANAGER, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF, FIGURING OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEM BE ABLE TO QUICK REACT AND BE ABLE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, THERE'S EVERYBODY SPEAKS ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS. BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT COIN IS RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW AT TIMES PAST WE'VE HAD A FEW THINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DO CURFEWS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO DO, BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE HAVE THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO ENACT QUICKLY AND RESPOND QUICKLY TO WHAT THESE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS MAY BE. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO STAY COGNIZANT OF AS WELL, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO RESPOND AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

LASTLY, SPEAKING OF PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW WITH VARIOUS THINGS AND THIS HAS COME

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THERE'S A LARGE COMMUNITY THAT WALKS TO SOUTH PORT ELEMENTARY. WE'VE GOT DEER POINT ELEMENTARY, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GROWTH COMING. WE'VE GOT MERRITT BROWN AND CEDAR GROVE ELEMENTARY AND THOSE. SO IF WE CAN LOOK AT WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL AND JOINTLY DOING THAT, I KNOW WE'RE IN SESSION. FORTUNATELY, WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT KNOW APPROPRIATIONS STUFF OVER THERE IN TALLAHASSEE. MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON GETTING SOME OF THESE FUNDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THERE IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. AND TO THAT END, APPRECIATE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.