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GOING TO. GOOD AFTERNOON GUYS. MY NAME IS TIFFANY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL TODAY'S MEETING TO ORDER AT 101. IT IS THURSDAY, APRIL 10TH. MY NAME IS TIFFANY, SIR. I'M GOING TO SERVE AS YOUR MAGISTRATE FOR TODAY'S HEARING. WHAT WE'LL DO FIRST IS GO AHEAD AND SWEAR IN EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY. SO IF YOU'LL STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. ALL RIGHT. I'LL NEED IS YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, WHENEVER YOU COME UP TO SPEAK AT THE PODIUM, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP AROUND THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THE PARTIES THAT ARE HERE AND PRESENT FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS TAKEN CARE OF. I WILL HEAR FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT FIRST BEFORE I HEAR FROM THE RESPONDENT. THAT WAY I GET A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHY THE PROPERTY IS IN FRONT OF ME. I'LL MAKE A DECISION ABOUT EVERY CASE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO LEAVE HERE TODAY WITH A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CODE ENFORCEMENT, CD, D AND E ARE ALL SIMILAR PROPERTY ADDRESSES. DO WE WANT TO PRESENT THEM SEPARATELY OR TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS. THE PARCEL IS OWNED BY ONE PERSON OR LLC. AND THEN THE MOBILE HOMES ARE. GOT IT. OKAY. LET'S START WITH LETTER C ON THE AGENDA IS CODE ENFORCEMENT. CASE 20243339. PROPERTY IS 2628 LORI AVENUE. GOOD AFTERNOON, CATHERINE ASHMAN, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER, ON NOVEMBER 4TH OF 2024, WE DID RECEIVE A COMPLAINT FOR DERELICT VEHICLES ON THIS PROPERTY. IT IS LOCATED IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF PANAMA CITY BEACH. SLIDE NUMBER TWO IS AN AERIAL TAKEN IN JANUARY FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLUE AND THIS IS JUST FOR LOCATION PURPOSES. WE HAVE FRONT BEACH ROAD AND THE TOP. PART OF THE PHOTO. AND THIS IS A CLOSER UP AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. AND LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, IN THIS CASE WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THE MOBILE HOMES BUT THE DERELICT VEHICLES ON THE PARCEL. AND ON NOVEMBER 7TH OF 2024, INVESTIGATOR BRANDON IRWIN INSPECTED THIS PROPERTY AND HE IS HERE TO TESTIFY. GOOD MORNING, MAGISTRATE BRANDON IRWIN, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. NOVEMBER 4TH IS WHEN WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT REGARDING THE PARCEL WITH DERELICT VEHICLES. ON NOVEMBER 7TH, I CONDUCTED A SITE INSPECTION. YOU CAN SEE THERE IN PHOTO FIVE. THERE'S A GRAY TRUCK AND A BLACK CAR THAT BOTH.
NEITHER ONE OF THESE VEHICLES HAD TAGS ON THEM, AND THE COMPLAINT ACTUALLY HAD ORIGINATED ABOUT LOT C, WHICH HAD THEIR VEHICLES. AND THAT'S AT THE BACK OF THE PARCEL WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE VAN AND THE U-HAUL. THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE PRESENT BACK THERE MOVING SOME STUFF OUT. SO I WAS ACTUALLY DOING MY INSPECTION. INSPECTOR THORPE WAS ACTUALLY WITH ME. SO WE MADE CONTACT WITH THOSE TENANTS FROM LOT C. PHOTO SIX SHOWS A COUPLE MORE CLOSER PHOTO OF THE NO TAGS. YOU CAN SEE SOME FURNITURE NEXT TO THE MOBILE HOME THERE. AND THEN PHOTO SEVEN. THIS WAS IN FRONT OF LOT C, YOU CAN JUST SEE LIKE THE JUNK AND TRASH TIRES JUST KIND OF ALL AROUND THE PARCEL. DERELICT BLACK HONDA THERE BY THE FENCE LINE ON THE BLACK CAR AND PHOTO EIGHT. AND THEN JUST MORE JUNK AND TRASH. AND THEN THE VAN WAS ALSO DERELICT AS WELL. AND THERE'S PHOTO NINE SHOWING THAT THE TAG WAS EXPIRED, AND THEN TWO MORE DERELICT VEHICLES AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. AND PHOTO TEN, BOTH WITH NO TAGS, MORE FURNITURE AND PHOTO 11 ALONG THE FENCE LINES. JUST SOME JUNK AND TRASH KIND OF STREWN THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. THOSE ARE MATTRESSES. YES, MA'AM. DURING THAT SITE INSPECTION, THE PERSON ENDED UP BEING CARRIE WAS THE NAME. I BELIEVE IT WAS HIS MOTHER THAT WAS WITH HIM AS WELL. SHE WAS KIND OF KEEPING THE ANIMALS CORRALLED WHILE WE WERE THERE, BUT HE INVITED US TO LIKE, SHOW WHAT VEHICLES ON HIS LOT WERE DERELICT. HE CLOSED THE HATCH OF THAT VAN TO SHOW US THE TAG ON IT. HE DID SAY THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE REMOVED AND POSSIBLY MOVING FROM THAT LOCATION. DURING AN INSPECTION, I KIND OF NOTICED THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE MOBILE HOMES AND SOME OF THOSE PHOTOS, AND I ADVISED INVESTIGATOR BRUNING ABOUT THOSE CASES FOR HIM TO LOOK AT THAT LATER ON DECEMBER 31ST, I CONDUCTED A RE
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INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY AGAIN THERE IN PHOTO 13, YOU CAN SEE MULTIPLE VEHICLES WITH NO TAGS UP FRONT. YOU GOT THE BLACK CAR, THE GRAY TRUCK, AND THE OTHER BLACK CAR, ALL WITH NO TAGS ON THEM. 14 YOU CAN SEE JUST SOME MORE JUNK AND TRASH IN FRONT OF LOT C OR THE HOME AT LOT C. AND THEN THE TWO DERELICT VEHICLES AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. AND PHOTO 15 WITH NO TAGS ON THE DECEMBER 31ST DATE, I DID SEND OUT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESS OF RECORD THROUGH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DATABASE. THAT NOTICE WENT TO P.O. BOX 1931, BLAIRSVILLE, GEORGIA 30514. I ALSO SENT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO COUPLE ADDRESSES. I GOT OFF TO SUNDAYS AND THAT WAS 790 ONE FOURTH STREET NORTH, SUITE 300 AND SAINT PETERSBURG, FLORIDA, 33702. THE NOTICE OF THAT ADDRESS WAS DELIVERED ON JANUARY 6TH. AND THEN THE NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESS OF RECORD WAS DELIVERED ON JANUARY 4TH OF 2025. ADDITIONALLY, I SENT ANOTHER NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE AUTHORIZED TITLE MEMBER AT 686 BARKER LANDING, SUGAR HILL, GEORGIA, 30518, AND THAT NOTICE WAS DELIVERED ON JANUARY 6TH OF 2025. I RECEIVED A MESSAGE ON THAT SAME DAY FROM PROPERTY MANAGER OR OWNER RICK KLOPP. I RETURNED THE PHONE CALL AND LET THE VOICEMAIL AND HAD NOT HEARD BACK SINCE THEN. HE IS ACTUALLY HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPERTY FEBRUARY 4TH. I RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY STARTING IN PHOTO 17. IT REMAINED IN VIOLATION AT THIS POINT. DERELICT VEHICLES STILL UP FRONT AT THE LOT A THE BLACK CAR VEHICLES KIND OF BEEN MOVED AROUND AS KIND OF HARD TO SEE ALL THE TAGS FROM THE VEHICLES THAT WE SAW IN PREVIOUS PHOTOS, BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE THE BLACK COROLLA THERE WITH NO TAG AS WELL. AND THEN THE TWO VEHICLES AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AT LOT C, BOTH WITH NO TAGS AND PHOTO 20. MARCH 4TH I RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. IT STILL REMAINED IN VIOLATION. JUST SOME JUNK TRASH IN FRONT OF THIS LOT. B JUST HAD THE DOOR AND SOME OLD LUMBER OUT THERE. AND PHOTO 2223 STARTS WITH DERELICT VEHICLES. AGAIN, YOU STILL GOT NO TAG ON THE HONDA ACCORD, THE BLACK CAR IN 23 AND THEN 24. YOU CAN SEE THE SILVER MUSTANG HAS NO TAG AS WELL. COROLLA THE BLACK COROLLA WITH NO TAG AND PHOTO 25. AND YOU COULDN'T REALLY SEE THE BLACK MALIBU THERE. AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE TAG WAS NOT ON THE VEHICLE. AND PHOTO 26. MARCH 5TH I SENT OUT THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION NOTICE OF HEARING. AGAIN. THESE ALL WENT TO THE SAME ADDRESSES AS THE NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS. THE PROPERTY OWNER, P.O. BOX 1931, BLAIRSVILLE, GEORGIA. THE REGISTERED AGENT AT 790 ONE FOURTH STREET NORTH, SUITE 300, SAINT PETERSBURG. AND THE 6086 BARKER LANDING IN SUGAR HILL, FLORIDA. THE NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS DELIVERED ON MARCH 19TH, AND THEN THE REGISTERED AGENT ADDRESS IN SAINT PETERSBURG THAT WAS DELIVERED ON MARCH 10TH OF 2025, AND THE NOTICE OF HEARING TO THE AUTHORIZED TITLE MEMBER WAS DELIVERED ON MAY 10TH, 2025. THAT WAS THE BARKER LANDING ADDRESS. ADDITIONAL TO THAT, AT THIS POINT, I DID FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBLE INTERESTED PARTY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A LENDER, AND THAT WAS BRITTANY DE WILLIAMS. I SENT A COURTESY NOTICE TO HER AT 1632 TOTEM POLE WAY, CHROME, TEXAS 76249. THAT NOTICE WAS RETURNED WITH NO FORWARDING ADDRESS. MARCH 27TH. A COPY OF THE NOTICE HEARING WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND AT THE BAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER IN SLIDE 28. SLIDE 29 WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY, STILL IN VIOLATION WITH SOME OF THE VEHICLES. MARCH 28TH PROPERTY APPRAISER DATABASE WAS CHECKED. TAX COLLECTOR DATABASES SHOW THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP HAS NOT CHANGED AND TAXES ARE PAID IN FULL. APRIL 1ST CHARLOTTE DUNFORD WITH JOHNS CREEK CAPITAL EMAILED REQUESTING CONTINUANCE OF THE HEARING. SHE'S THE AUTHORIZED TITLE MEMBER FOR 2628 LOWRY AVENUE LLC. THAT WAS ON[00:10:05]
APRIL 1ST. APRIL 2ND. I EMAILED HER BACK AND ADVISED I WAS UNABLE TO CONTINUE THE HEARING, BUT SHE COULD ATTEND VIA TELEPHONE. SHE WAS ADVISED SHE COULD EMAIL ANY DOCUMENTS THAT SHE WANTED THE MAGISTRATE TO SEE, AND THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THOSE. I ALSO SENT HER PHOTOGRAPHS FOR THE CASE AND THE TWO OTHER CASES THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR HEARING TODAY. SHE LATER ASKED ABOUT INFORMATION ON INVESTIGATOR BRUNING'S CASES AND THEN APRIL 3RD, I RESPONDED TO THAT EMAIL AND PROVIDED HIS EMAIL ADDRESS FOR HER TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING HIS CASES WITH HIM. SHE DID CONTACT US A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND ASKED TO BE CONTACTED VIA TELEPHONE FROM THE HEARING, AND THEN EMAILED RIGHT AFTER THAT AND CANCELED THAT REQUEST. THAT WAS ALREADY AFTER THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS WERE SUBMITTED. SO IT'S NOT IN MY REPORT. APRIL 4TH, 2025 REINSPECTED THE PROPERTY. PHOTO 31. JUST OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN 32 GOT THREE VEHICLES THERE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY WITH NO TAGS. 33 YOU COULDN'T REALLY SEE THE COROLLA ANYMORE TAG ON IT, AND THEN 34 YOU CAN SEE THE JUNK AND TRASH IN FRONT OF LOT C AND SLIDE 35. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MALIBU AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY STILL DOES NOT HAVE A TAG ON IT AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE MINE. OKAY. THIS CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR A COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH, 2025 AT 1:00 PM. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME? NOT AT THIS TIME. CODE ENFORCEMENT? CLARIFY FOR ME. WE'RE DEALING WITH JUST DERELICT VEHICLES IN THIS CASE, CORRECT? YES. WE'RE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE YES PARCEL. NO STRUCTURES.OKAY. NO STRUCTURES. SO BASICALLY THE DERELICT VEHICLE POTENTIAL AND THE POTENTIAL OF UNSHELTERED STORAGE AND JUNK AND DEBRIS OUTSIDE. CORRECT. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT. OKAY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHO WANTS TO TALK TO ME FIRST ABOUT THAT? OKAY. YEAH. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS CASE TO ME? COME ON UP AND GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. WE'RE NOT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME SAY IN THE MATTER HERE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE TENANTS. OKAY. GIVE ME YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS RICK. RICK. CLOP, CLOP. OKAY.
THANK YOU. MA'AM, WHAT ADDRESS WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE? ANY COPIES? NOTICES AT P.O. BOX 1931, BLAIRSVILLE, GEORGIA 30514. GOT THAT? OKAY. GO AHEAD. TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW.
OKAY, SO THE OWNER HAS US MAKE PERIODIC INSPECTIONS OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE WE'RE BASED IN ATLANTA, SO WE COME DOWN USUALLY BIANNUAL TWICE A YEAR. WE CAME DOWN IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR PRIOR TO THESE VIOLATIONS, NOTICE THE CONDITIONS AT THE PARK AND HAD SENT OUT VIOLATION NOTICES OF THEIR LEASE TO SEVERAL TENANTS. ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND HERE, YOUR HONOR, IS THAT THESE PROPERTIES, THE TENANTS THEMSELVES, OWN THE MOBILE HOMES, NOT THE PARK. SO THAT CAUSES A LITTLE BIT OF A QUANDARY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION UPON THAT. SO WE SENT OUT VIOLATION NOTICES. THOSE ARE ALL SENT BY CERTIFIED MAIL. WE ALSO SET A COPY SUBSEQUENT TO THAT TO THE INSPECTOR THAT DID SUBMIT THE VIOLATION NOTICES. WE HAVE NOW SINCE BEEN BACK TWICE TO WORK WITH THE TENANTS, AND ONE OF THEM IS HERE TO MAYBE TALK ON HER BEHALF TODAY. ANOTHER ONE IS HERE TO TALK ON HIS BEHALF THAT THEY HAVE MADE PROGRESS. NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM MAKE, AND PROBABLY NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THROUGH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. BUT THEY ARE MAKING PROGRESS. SO IF IT PLEASES THE COURT, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THESE TENANTS MAYBE 30 DAYS CONTINUANCE TO MAKE SURE THESE CORRECTIONS ARE COMPLETED AND THEN COME BACK. WE'LL MAKE A VISIT BACK HERE IN 30 DAYS TO CONFIRM THAT. AND IF NOT, THEN AT THAT POINT, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME ACTION, BUT NOT THE TENANTS. MY QUESTION COMES UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ISSUES WHEN THE TENANTS OWN THE HOME AND NOT THE LAND ITSELF.
WHAT IS THE COURT'S PROCEDURE FOR HANDLING A SITUATION LIKE THAT? WHEN WE HAND OUT AN EVICTION NOTICE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY TO DO A DEMOLISHMENT OR REHAB ON THE UNIT? THE WERE ALL VERY CLEAR. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED ON THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE THIS SPECIFIC CASE IS DEALING WITH THE DERELICT VEHICLES AND ANY TRASH, RUBBISH, DEBRIS THAT IS LEFT, OVERGROWTH THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF AS OPPOSED TO
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THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES. OKAY. SO IF WE'RE SPEAKING JUST TO THAT, YES. OKAY. THIS CASE DOESN'T DEAL WITH THAT. SO AS FAR AS DEALING WITH THE DERELICT VEHICLES AND THE STUFF THAT'S POTENTIALLY VIOLATED ON THIS CASE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT STUFF SEPARATELY. YES, MA'AM, FROM THE PROPERTY. BUT I KNOW THAT IT ENDS UP BEING A BIT OF A QUANDARY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.PART OF IT IS GOING TO RELY ON WHATEVER YOUR LEASE SAYS AND WHAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO.
SO YOUR LEASE OR AGREEMENT WITH THE TENANT ON THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO DETERMINE PART OF WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY OR REQUIREMENT IS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF. ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WHETHER WE'RE DEALING WITH DERELICT VEHICLE, WHETHER WE'RE DEALING WITH THE PROPERTY, WHETHER WE'RE DEALING WITH THE STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY, THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO LIEN THE PROPERTY. UNDERSTOOD AS WELL AS ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY OF THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED THAT HAVE POTENTIALLY CAUSED THE VIOLATION. THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY, A VEHICLE THAT BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED, COMPLICATED AND VERY SPECIFIC AS TO THAT INDIVIDUAL. BUT I CAN SEE WHERE THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME CONCERN OR SOME WHAT THE HECK DO I DO QUESTION. SURE. SO IF WE DEAL JUST WITH THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR, THEN LET'S LET'S DISCUSS THE TRASH AND DEBRIS AND THE DERELICT VEHICLES. OKAY, I WAS THERE MAKING AN INSPECTION YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I SPOKE WITH THE TENANTS. THEY SHOWED ME SOME PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE. I WENT BACK THIS MORNING TO CONFIRM THAT THAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. ONE OF THE TENANTS IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THEIR EFFORTS ON THAT SITUATION. IT'S NOT. SEE THE ONE THAT'S ON THE PHOTO AT THIS TIME? OKAY. SO THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR LEASE, WHICH IS A REASON FOR EVICTION. BUT EVICTING A TENANT AND THEN LEAVING A HOME, WHICH THEN SUPERSEDES ANOTHER VIOLATION IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS AN ABANDONMENT CASE, COMPLICATES THE PICTURE. SO IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S INTEREST, I THINK, TO MAINTAIN A TENANT THAT FOLLOWS RULES AND REGULATIONS AND COMPLIES WITH CITY ORDINANCES. SO THAT'S OUR GOAL.
AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THESE TENANTS FOR 30 DAYS. AND THEY'VE GIVEN ME THAT COMMITMENT. BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SITUATION FROM THE TENANTS THEMSELVES. IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME SEE WHAT INFO I GET FROM THEM. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE EFFORT TO TALK ON THEIR BEHALF AND THE PROPERTY. WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH EVERYONE HERE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU MA'AM, THANK YOU. THIS IS MERCEDES. YOU ARE UP THERE. YES.
ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP. I DON'T THINK YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. SO IF YOU'LL JUST RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, OUR SECRETARY'S GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN. AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. YES. ALL RIGHT, NOW TELL ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, I'M ON THE LOT. SEE? AND WE DID HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES LAST FALL. WE GOT RID OF TWO HONDA'S, ONE ACCORD AND ONE CIVIC, AND THEY ARE GONE. BUT LAST NIGHT WE HAD THE. THE IMPALA PULLED OUT TO THE MECHANIC. AND RIGHT NOW THE RV IS OUT OF THE YARD. SO IT'S JUST TWO DRIVABLE, TWO DRIVABLE DRIVABLE VEHICLES THAT'S THERE.
AND I AND THE U-HAUL IS IN THE YARD RIGHT NOW. ALL THE STUFF WILL BE TOTALLY TAKEN OFF THE PROPERTY. I HAVE A I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL LIKE FOUR TIMES SINCE THANKSGIVING AND JUST NOT ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT. BUT THE ONE SON THAT HE TALKS TO IS MENTALLY ILL AND JUST THROWS THINGS ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, SENSE OF ORDER. I'M SENDING HIM TO MICHIGAN THIS COMING WEEK WITH HIS FATHER. HIS FATHER IS GOING TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE FURTHER SOUTH IN FLORIDA AND GET HIM. AND HE'S LIKE 42, BUT HE'S ALREADY GOT THE BRUCE WILLIS MENTAL DEMENTIA. SO EVEN THOUGH HE TALKS A GOOD GAME, HE HE DOES. HE HAS NO SENSE OF ORDER. AND EVERY TIME I DO STRAIGHTEN IT ALL UP AND MAKE IT REALLY NICE, HE JUST THROWS IT ALL OVER AGAIN. SO HE JUST HAS TO GO AND I CAN'T. I CAN'T TAKE CARE OF HIM ANY LONGER. MY HEALTH IS IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE OF THAT. SO IF I CAN GET HIM GONE, THIS WILL STAY PRISTINE AND CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENT AND MAKE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING SOLID SINCE CHRISTMAS AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE AT THE PROPERTY, LIKE ABLE TO WATCH HIM SO THAT HE STOPS DOING ALL THIS MESSING AROUND AND STUFF, AND HE PICKS UP STUFF FROM THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT LOOKS PROPER. YOU KNOW, THAT LOOKS LIKE POTENTIALLY A GOOD THING, BUT WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING. AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MOVE OUT, BUT I'M WILLING TO I'M WILLING TO IF I TO ESCAPE HIM OR SO ANYWAY. BUT I DO HAVE AN OLDER
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SON THAT IS HELPING HELPING TOO. BUT THE PERSON THAT IS THE OTHER SON IS THE ONE ON THE LEASE.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FOR THE RECORDS THAT SHE MAKE A REALLY CLEAR IDEA. GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND THE ADDRESS YOU WANT. OKAY. THE NAME IS MERCEDES CHRISTI. C H R I S T I E AND IT'S 2628 LAURIE AVENUE OR STREET, AND IT'S LOT C, OKAY. AND WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO PUT INTO THIS. AND IF THE LAND OWNER WANTS TO TEAR THEM DOWN TO BUILD SOMETHING, THAT'S ALL WE WANTED TO KNOW. WE WOULD HAVE DONE. WE WOULD HAVE REPAIRED A LOT OF THINGS EARLIER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF HE IF THE PROPERTY IS FOR SALE OR IF HE'S GOING TO SELL IT AND MAKE US LOSE OUR INVESTMENT. AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH SKIN TO PUT IN THE GAME. OKAY. ON THAT. THAT IS CERTAINLY AN ISSUE BETWEEN YOU AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OR KNOWLEDGE OR INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT ALL WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW ARE THE DERELICT VEHICLES AND WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. AND FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE DERELICT VEHICLE ISSUE HAS BEEN THE EDITOR. THEY'RE GONE. YEAH, ONLY. ONLY MY VAN, THAT VAN AND MY OTHER SON'S VEHICLE ARE ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE OTHER SON WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BUT HE'S. HE'S GOT THE WRECKER IN THE YARD. SO IT WAS STUCK AND WE COULDN'T GET IT OUT OF THE SAND. OKAY, SO A QUESTION, MISS MERCEDES. SO THE VEHICLES UP FRONT THAT ARE DERELICT, LIKE THIS MUSTANG HERE, THAT'S NOT YOURS. OH, NONE OF THOSE ARE OURS. NO. THOSE ALL BELONG TO WHOEVER LIVES IN THE IN THAT HOME RIGHT THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT? NOPE. WE'VE WE'VE GOT BOTH VEHICLES REMOVED. WE'VE GOT THE IMPALA AND THE RV REMOVED. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT.
I'M SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE DEBRIS REMOVED BETWEEN NOW AND SATURDAY. I MEAN, IT'LL JUST BE ALL GONE. AND WITH HIM BEING GONE, IT'S NOT GOING TO COME BACK. I GOT A STORAGE UNIT AND IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO HOLD EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE YARD.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COASTAL RECYCLING AND GET RID OF SOME OF THE METAL THINGS THAT HE'S COLLECTED. SO IT'S ON ITS WAY AND I CAN'T HAVE HIM COME BACK TO LIVE WITH ME. I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S FINE, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. SO IF YOU'LL HAVE A SEAT FOR ME. THANK YOU. FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WANTS TO TALK TO ME. ANYBODY ELSE? SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE. SORRY. OKAY. OR ANY OF THOSE VEHICLES? YOURS? EXCUSE ME. ARE ANY OF THOSE VEHICLES YOURS? NO, MA'AM. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CODE ENFORCEMENT, TELL ME IF YOU'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROPERTY IN REFERENCE TO THE BEATLES. YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DETERMINE THAT THE ADDRESS, 2628 LAURIE AVENUE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17 OF BAY COUNTY CODE. THE PROPER NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT FOR THE VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE 17. DASH TWO EXISTS IN THE FORM OF JUNK, TRASH, FURNITURE AND DERELICT VEHICLES, BUT THE MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME OF TEN DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY REMOVING ANY AND ALL JUNK, TRASH AND FURNITURE, AND BY REMOVING, STORING OR ENCLOSING, ENCLOSED, STORING OR STORING IN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE. EASY FOR ME TO SAY, OR REMOVING ALL BUT ONE DERELICT VEHICLE. IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESPONDENT TO CONTACT AND INFORM CODE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ETHICAL CODES, ORDINANCE AND REGULATIONS WITHIN TEN DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, THE RESPONDENT SHALL BE FINED INITIAL FINE OF $200 AND A DAILY FINE OF $25 TO BE IMPOSED AFTER THE 10TH DAY FOR A PERIOD OF 20 DAYS, OR WHEN THE PROPERTY COMES INTO COMPLIANCE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. AND SUCH FINE SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA. AND AGAIN, THIS. THERE IS A COMPLIANCE HEARING SCHEDULED FOR MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. IN THIS ROOM. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT? I NEED TO KNOW. NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY, SO IT'S REALLY CLEAR THAT YOU UNDERSTAND. IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME AND IS IN THIS SPECIFIC VIOLATION CASE DEALS WITH THE DERELICT VEHICLES, A LOT OF WHICH YOU HAVE MOVED OFF THE PROPERTY ALREADY. SO EVEN THE REQUEST THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS MAKING FOR TEN DAYS SOUNDS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY, BUT THAT PUTS IT TEN DAYS A WHOLE LOT
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BETTER FOR YOU TO GET ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS FAR AS TRASH OR DEBRIS OR ANYTHING OFF THERE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'VE SAID EVERYTHING WILL BE FINISHED BY THE END OF THE WEEK, AND THAT GIVES YOU EVEN MORE TIME THAN WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. IT'LL BE DONE BY.THAT'S DEALING WITH THE VIOLATION IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE. WITH REGARD TO THOSE DERELICT VEHICLES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT STUFF? NONE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THAT? CAN I APPROACH? SURE. COME ON UP. JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS. THE OWNERS IS ONE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THE TENANTS IN THIS SITUATION, THE PHOTO THAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW, NUMBER 37, DOES NOT BELONG TO THE TENANT THAT APPROACHED THE BENCH BEFORE. OKAY. THIS IS A DIFFERENT TENANT. WE HAVE NOT MADE EFFORTS WITH THIS TENANT TO REMOVE THEIR VEHICLES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE TWO SETS OF DERELICT VEHICLES, ONE BELONGING TO TENANTS RESIDING IN LOT A AND ONE RESIDING IN LOT C.
MISS CHRISTY IS THE ONE REFERRED TO IN LOT C, AND SHE'S MAKING THE PROGRESS. LOT A STILL HAS TO COMPLY WITH THOSE ORDERS. JUST JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I THINK WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO TENANTS. WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSING MISS CHRISTY, WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDRESSING THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE HERE REGARDING LOT H? TALK TO ME ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL DERELICT VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVE ON THE PROPERTY? BRANDON WAS LOT SERVED PRECISELY. SPECIFICALLY, LOT A WAS NOT, SIR. SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WASN'T DEALING WITH THEIR STRUCTURE. SO WITH THE DERELICT VEHICLES, IT ENCOMPASSES THE WHOLE PARCEL ONE VEHICLE ALLOWED. OKAY. SO THAT WAS IT WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT WAS DEALING WITH THE WHOLE PARCEL WHEN IT CAME TO THE DERELICT VEHICLES, NOT JUST A SPECIFIC LOT. OKAY.
SO THE WHOLE PARCEL. YES MA'AM, CAN JUST HAVE THAT ONE DERELICT VEHICLE ON THERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE LOT C HAS MOVED THEIRS, BUT THE OTHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT SAME TEN DAY NOTICE TO GET THAT STUFF OFF THE PROPERTY. SO YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE VEHICLE ON THAT. GREAT, GREAT.
YES, MA'AM. NOW, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE THOSE OURSELVES AS A PROPERTY OWNER, GIVEN THIS ORDER? I CANNOT GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT THAT. I CAN CERTAINLY SAY SPEAK TO AN ATTORNEY. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS LEGALLY WITHIN YOUR REALM TO DO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR LEASE AGREEMENT SAYS OR WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO WITH REGARD TO THAT, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IF IT STILL REMAINS THERE AND THE COUNTY HAS TO STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING TO GET THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOO MANY VEHICLES ON THE VIOLATION SIDE OF THINGS, THEY CAN CERTAINLY HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT AND REMOVE THE VEHICLE. UNDERSTOOD? UNDERSTOOD? YES, MA'AM. AND IF THEY DO, THAT IS THE CHARGE FOR THAT TOWING AND SERVICE AND STORAGE BILL REFLECTED BACK TO WHO? IT USUALLY GETS REFLECTED BACK THROUGH THE ABATEMENT PROCESS OF FIXING VIOLATIONS. SO IT WILL GO TO EITHER PARTIES INVOLVED OR THE PROPERTY OWNER ITSELF. OKAY. AND JUST TO ADD WITH WITH THE DERELICT VEHICLES, USUALLY DEPENDING ON THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES, THE TOW COMPANIES CHARGE THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE FOR THE TOW AND THEN THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE CAN ALSO GET IT BACK AND BRING IT BACK TO THE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S THAT TOO. THERE'S REALLY NOT A CHARGE FOR US UNLESS IT'S IN A CONDITION WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO TOW. THERE'S NOT A CHARGE USUALLY FOR THIS. THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING IS TOWING VEHICLES. OKAY. GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE TENANTS IN LOT C FOR THIS SITUATION, I'M REQUESTING THAT THAT ORDER BE EXTENDED BY AT LEAST FIVE DAYS. SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE TENANTS IN LATTE. OKAY. WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR BY CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TEN DAYS. I HAVE A REAL HARD TIME EXTENDING IT, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE HAVE KNOWN.
AS LONG AS THIS LOVELY LADY HAS KNOWN, AND SHE MANAGED TO MOVE STUFF OFF THE PROPERTY. SO THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN NOTICED. EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S THERE KNOWS AND HAS BEEN UP TO SPEED. I KNOW IT MAY NOT BE YOU BEING NOTICED ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND HAD TO DO ALL THAT STUFF, BUT THE CARS BELONG TO THEM. YEAH, SURE. YES, MA'AM.
THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY FELT LIKE THE FIVE DAYS WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE FOR YOU. WELL, I WOULD DO THAT, OKAY. BUT I THINK AS SOON AS YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM, WHETHER THEY HAVE FIVE DAYS, TEN DAYS, 15 DAYS, 150
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DAYS, WELL, WE WOULD BE UNDER THE OPINION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE JUST A FEW DAYS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. SO WITHIN THE TEN DAY PERIOD, IT CAN BE RECTIFIED. YES, IT CAN CERTAINLY BE RECTIFIED IN THE TEN DAYS. IF I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT COULD NOT BE FIXED IN THAT TIME FRAME, OR WORST CASE, WHAT I WILL BE GLAD TO DO IS TELL THE CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTOR THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS A DELAY BECAUSE OF IF I KNEW BAD WEATHER WAS COMING IN OR SOMETHING, I'D BE MORE CONCERNED. BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE NICE FINGERS CROSSED, BEAUTIFUL WEATHER UNTIL AT LEAST THE END OF NEXT WEEK. SO THIS REALLY IS THE TIME TO GET OUT THERE AND DO IT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE THEN IN OUR CAPACITY, WILL COMPLY WITH THAT ORDER AND MAKE EFFORTS TO HAVE IT RESOLVED IN TEN DAYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE RV. YES, MA'AM. IS IT BECAUSE IT'S AN RV? IT CAN'T BE OUT THERE? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S DERELICT. SO IF I AS FAR AS THIS VIOLATION, IF I HAD THE RIGHT PLATE ON IT AND EVERYTHING, IT CAN COME BACK TO THE YARD OR NOT. IT'S A MOBILE HOME. I MEAN,OTOR, A SMALL MOTO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE LEASE AGREEMENT. TWO VEHICLES, MA'AM, JUST TWO VEHICLES. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS A VEHICLE OR NOT. WOULD CODE ENFORCEMENT ALLOW AS LONG AS. AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND A PHOTO OF THE RV, SO I'M NOT SURE. IT WAS IN THE VERY BEGINNING. IT WAS TO THE FAR BACK. I COULD SEE IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE TAGGED AND INSURED AND IN WORKING ORDER. OH YEAH, IT'S BEEN INSURED AND EVERYTHING. SO I JUST COULDN'T GET IT STARTED TODAY. BUT WE HAVE HAD IT RUNNING. OKAY. WELL AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT HAS TO NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE TO BE TAGGED AND INSURED, BUT IT HAS TO AT LEAST APPEAR TO BE OPERABLE. YES. IF I STARTED DRIVING IT TO WORK EVERY DAY, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. BUT THAT'S. BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO VEHICLES.YOU'RE ALLOWED ONE DERELICT VEHICLE. OH, WE WON'T HAVE ANY DINNER. AND YOU RELEASE YOUR LEASE HAS TWO VEHICLES PER LOT. OKAY, SO IF THE RV WAS THERE AND MET WITH THE COMPLIANCE OF THE OFFICER HERE, YOU'D BE ALLOWED ONE MORE VEHICLE ONLY. THAT WAS IN GOOD RUNNING ORDER. LICENSED AND INSURED. IS THAT CORRECT, MA'AM? YES. I MIGHT JUST PARK IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND DO STUFF.
OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. AS FAR AS THIS CASE IS CONCERNED, I WILL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH REGARD TO THESE VIOLATIONS. AND FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S HEARING, THAT CONCLUDES CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20243339 2628 LORI AVENUE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO LETTER D ON THE AGENDA. IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20243467. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2628 LORI AVENUE. LOT E AS IN EDWARD. I KNOW SOMETIMES I CAN SLUR MY LETTERS AGAIN JUST FOR LOCATION PURPOSES. THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA BAY COUNTY, PANAMA CITY BEACH, A SLIDE NUMBER THREE HAS A CLOSER UP AERIAL, AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING LOT E THAT IS CIRCLED ON THE AERIAL. AND THAT AERIAL WAS TAKEN IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. PROPERTY LINES ARE NOT ACCURATE. MORE OF A GUIDELINE. SORRY. AND ON NOVEMBER 7TH WE DID RECEIVE A COMPLAINT OF DERELICT VEHICLES ON LOT C, AS YOU HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS CASE. AND INVESTIGATOR BRANDON BRANDON IRWIN AND INSPECTOR SCOTT THORPE DID GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND THEY ARE BOTH HERE TO TESTIFY. I WANT TO START WITH SCOTT OR. NEW MAGISTRATE INSPECTOR THORPE, BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. I SUBMITTED MY CREDENTIALS FOR THE RECORD. SO UPON INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY INVESTIGATOR AND I WENT THERE ABOUT THE DERELICT VEHICLES, I NOTICED THE STRUCTURES. WE WERE DOWN THE ROAD LOOKING AT ANOTHER STRUCTURE, BUT THE THREE STRUCTURES ARE TWO IN THE REAR AND THE ONE THERE THAT WE IN THE PHOTO PRETTY BAD SHAPE. THESE MY KNOW THESE ARE THE HERE WE GO.
SO SINGLE WIDE MOBILE HOME. IT SITS IN THIS PARK. IT'S HAD HAD AN OVERHANG OR SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY OVER THE PORCHCH THAS BEEN TORE OFF. NEXT PHOTO YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S THE RIM JOIST THAT WAS UP THERE IS TORN AND EXPOSED THE WALL. HE PUT SPRAY FOAM IN THERE. THAT'S THE GYPSUM AND THE FOR THE INTERIOR ROTTED T111 SIDING, OF COURSE. AND EXPOSURE TO THE INSIDE WALL FOR
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THE ELEMENTS, A ROOF WAS PUT ON IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO. NO PERMITS. EXCESSIVE OVERHANG LEADS TO UPLIFTING WINDS, GRABBING AND PEELING IT OFF. SO SHOT TO THE LEFT OF THERE. MORE HOLES IN THERE. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL REPAIRS DONE WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIAL OTHER THAN T-111 ON THE EXTERIOR. PATCHING UP ALL THE ROT. NEXT PHOTO PLEASE. THIS IS THE END HERE. JUST BOARDED UP WINDOW. YOU CAN SEE THE ROOF IS DAMAGED AS WELL. AND HERE'S THE BACK SO YOU CAN SEE SOME REPAIRS DONE. PLYWOOD OVER SEVERAL HOLES, SKIRTINGS OFF. WHICH IS NOT A REALLY BIG DEAL, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR CRITTERS TO GET IN THERE AND TEAR OUT THE UNDERLAYMENT AND INSULATION. MORE ROTTING ALONG THE BOTTOM THERE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE UNDERLAYMENT INSULATION HAS BEEN RIPPED OFF AND MOISTURE GETS TO THE SUBFLOOR AND THEN YOU GET ROTTING FLOORS INSIDE. MORE PATCHES ON THERE. AND THEN BETWEEN THOSE TWO PATCHES OF WOOD, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE T-111 JUST ROTTED. WE DID. ON ANOTHER OCCASION, INVESTIGATOR BRUNING AND I MET WITH THE TENANT FOR HERE, WHICH HE'S HERE TODAY, AND WE MET WITH THE LOT SEE, IN THE BACK, WE EXPLAINED, AND I ACTUALLY PULLED SOME OF THAT T-111 OFF. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM PLATE, THE FRAMING AND EVERYTHING ROTTED. IT'S ALL I CAN REACH ALL THE WAY THROUGH.OF COURSE, THE BROUGHT ALONG THE BACK OF THE DECK THERE BEHIND THAT BOARDS THAT ARE RIGHT, IT WAS A BIG GIANT HOLE IN THE WALL AS WELL THAT WASN'T SECURED. CLOSER VIEW OF THE MORE REPAIRS.
I DIDN'T ENTER ANY OF THESE HOUSES, BUT THERE'S SUFFICIENT ENOUGH EVIDENCE ON THE EXTERIOR TO MAKE THEM UNFIT, UNSAFE. MORE REPAIRS DONE. THERE'S BEHIND THAT BOARD, I EXPLAINED EARLIER IN THE BACK PORCH, LARGE HOLES FILLED WITH SPRAY FOAM, MORE ROTTING AROUND THAN ABOVE THE WINDOW. THERE'S NO DRIP RAIL TO DEFLECT THE WATER THAT COMES OFF THE ROOF, AWAY FROM THE WINDOW OPENINGS. AND THERE'S WHERE WE I PULLED SOME OF THE SIDING OFF THE SHOW, AND IT JUST YOU CAN JUST REACH RIGHT THROUGH THOSE HOLES. THIS THIS PLACE IS NOT SAFE TO BE LIVING IN. AS IT SITS, AS IT SITS FOR IS UNFIT UNSAFE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAGISTRATE TONY BRUNI, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. I SUBMITTED MY INVESTIGATIVE REPORT NOTICES AND PHOTOGRAPHS ON DECEMBER 30TH, 2020 FOR A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. WAS SENT CERTIFIED IN REGULAR MAIL TO THE OWNER OF RECORD. THAT NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON JANUARY 14TH, 2025. ALSO SENT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE TENANT IN LOT E, THE CERTIFIED NOTICE RETURNED UNCLAIMED. THE REGULAR MAIL DID NOT RETURN. FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025 I RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. AND IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION. NO REPAIRS. ON MARCH THE 4TH, 2025, A NOTICE VIOLATION NOTICE OF HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED IN REGULAR MAIL TO THE OWNER OF RECORD. THE NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON MARCH 19TH, 2025. NOTICE OF VIOLATION. NOTICE OF HEARING WAS ALSO SENT TO THE TENANT IN LOT E. THE NOTICE WAS IS STILL OUT FOR DELIVERY, ACCORDING TO THE POSTAL SERVICE. MARCH 27TH. POSTED THE PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO BACK UP. I ALSO SENT A NOTICE OF HEARING TO BRITTANY WILLIAMS ON MARCH THE 20TH. ON APRIL THE 7TH, RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION. NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED AND THE CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. ANYTHING ELSE WE'LL CUT ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME REGARDING THIS PROPERTY? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WANTS TO SPEAK TO ME? COME ON UP AND GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON RECORD, PLEASE. ATTORNEY RICK, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, TEN PO BOX 1931, BLAIRSVILLE, GEORGIA 30514. ALL RIGHT. TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. OKAY. NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER. THE VIOLATION NOTICES CONCERNING EVICTIONS AND VIOLATIONS OF THE LEASES WERE SENT OUT AS THE DATES I PRESCRIBED EARLIER. WE ALSO SENT COPIES OF THOSE NOTICES TO MR. BRUNER TO PROVE THAT WE HAD INFORMED THE TENANTS OF THOSE VIOLATIONS, THAT THAT WAS SERVED AND CAME BACK. AND THE OWNER OF LOT E IS HERE TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. WOULD
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YOU PLEASE MOVE? COME ON UP AND JUST GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON GUYS. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR MAJESTY. MY NAME IS DARREN YOUNG FROM 2628 LAUREL AVENUE, LOT E. ALL RIGHT, SO BASICALLY, EXCUSE ME. TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO DO. OKAY, SO I WAS I'M STAYING AT THE UNIT WITH A FRIEND OF MINE. I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY WHEN HE TOLD ME THAT THERE'S A MAIL THAT CAME FOR ME. SO WHEN I GOT BACK, I GOT UP WITH MR. SCOTT. I EMAILED HIM AND I ASKED, OKAY, RIGHT. THE STRUCTURE. WHEN I GOT IT, THE ROOF WAS ON, SO I WASN'T REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. SO DURING THIS TIME THE PORCH HAD CAME OFF AND I HAD LOST THE DOCK. WHEN I GOT THIS, I GOT A TITLE. HOWEVER, IT WASN'T TRANSFERRED OVER INTO MY NAME, BUT DURING THE STORM THAT GOT ALL MESSED UP. YOU KNOW, I'D LOST SOME DOCUMENTS. SOME STUFF GOT MOVED AROUND. SO I HAD LOST THE TITLE AND I DIDN'T WENT TO THE DMV TO REALLY PUT IT IN MY NAME, BUT I WAS LIVING THERE. HOWEVER, ONCE I GOT THIS DOCUMENT ABOUT THE REPAIRS, I HAD EMAILED AND ASKED THE CODE ENFORCER, HOW DO I GO ABOUT DOING REPAIRS? BECAUSE I DO CONSTRUCTION AND I CAN LITERALLY FIX IT. BUT THEY WERE SAYING, NO, YOU CANNOT FIX IT UNLESS YOU GET A PERMIT AND SO FORTH. BUT I'M LIKE, OKAY, THE DAMAGE IS NOT THAT SEVERE BECAUSE THIS TRAILER HAS NEVER LEAKED. SO YES, SOME OF THE DEBRIS FELL AND HIT THE WINDOW, BUT THEY'RE LIKE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET BACK THE EXACT PARTS FOR THIS. SO I PRETTY MUCH KIND OF BUTTON UP THAT SIDE OF THE WINDOW FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO THE EXTERIOR I CAN LITERALLY GO TO AND GET THAT HARD WOOD TO REPAIR IT. BUT I WAS TOLD I CAN'T REALLY DO ANY REPAIRS TO IT. THE REPAIRS ON THIS STRUCTURE WOULD BE SO TIME CONSUMING AND INTENSE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A PERMIT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF PAINT THAT NEEDS TO GO ON HERE, AT LEAST FROM THE PICTURES I'M LOOKING AT. THERE ARE LOTS OF HOLES THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED THERE. WINDOWS THAT NEED THAT ARE BARRICADED, CLOTHES. THERE'S STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, MA'AM, IN THIS REGARD? I WILL FIRST HEAR FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SEE WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS, AND THEN I'LL MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THAT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. OKAY. CODE ENFORCEMENT. DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROPERTY? YES. THERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDRESS, 2628 MURRAY AVENUE, IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17, THE BAY COUNTY CODE. THE PROPER NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT THAT A VIOLATION. BAY COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO EXISTS IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME THAT THE MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME OF 30 DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY COMPLETING THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME BY APPLYING FOR AND OBTAINING A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE, MOBILE HOME AND PROHIBIT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND REMOVE ALL DEBRIS FROM THE PROPERTY OR REPAIR THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AS FOLLOWS. SUBMIT A COMPLETE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE BAY COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURERS SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC MODEL OF THE MOBILE HOME TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION OR ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL HOME TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, DIVISION. REPAIR OR REMODELING OF THE MOBILE HOME SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIAL AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION STRUCTURE SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO THE ROOF SYSTEM, WALL FLOOR SYSTEM, WINDOW AND EXTERIOR DOORS OF THE MOBILE HOME, ELECTRICAL REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGNED EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. PLUMBING REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGNED EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE BY A DESIGNATED PERSON, AS DEFINED IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE 320 .8245, SUBSECTION FOUR, BUT SUBMIT. SUBMIT A DETAILED ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING TIME FRAMES, OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS FOR THE STRUCTURE TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, ALL REQUIRED PERMITS, AND ALL MANUFACTURE, SPECIFICATION, ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS MUST PASS THE PLANS REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED. ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE BAY COUNTY BUILDER SERVICES DIVISION OR DESIGNEE. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND STRUCTURAL REPORTS. ALL BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETE AND ALL PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE. IF AT ANY TIME THE REQUIRED PERMITS UNDER THIS ORDER EXPIRE, THIS SHALL CONSTITUTE A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER, AND IT SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY. IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESPONDENT TO CONTACT AND INFORM CODE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO INTO COMPLIANCE.[00:45:01]
AND FINALLY, THAT IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE ABOVE ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, A FINE OF $1,000 SHALL BE IMPOSED. SUCH FINE SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA. NONCOMPLIANCE SHALL ALSO BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED IF THE RESPONDENT OBTAINS A DEMOLITION AND OR BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET ABOVE, AND THEN ALLOWS THE PERMIT TO EXPIRE TO BE CANCELED OR REVOKED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY, OR BECOMES VOID FOR ANY REASON. COLLECTIVELY, A DEFAULT. AND LASTLY, A REMINDER THAT A COMPLIANCE HEARING WILL BE HELD ON MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL RIGHT.ANYTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY. SO YOU UNDERSTAND, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS ONE OF TWO THINGS. EITHER TO GET THE PROPERTY DEMOLISHED OR TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT THAT REPAIRS EVERYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. SO THEY'RE NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT EITHER TO DEMOLISH IT OR THE PERMIT TO REPAIR IT. SO IN A CASE LIKE THIS WHERE I DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT BECAUSE I WAS SAYING THE PERMIT, I DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT AND IT WASN'T THE TITLE FOR THE TRAILER, I DON'T HAVE THE TITLE AND IT WASN'T REGISTERED IN MY NAME. SO HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING A PERMIT, SAY, IF I WANT TO KEEP IT? HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING THAT? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT SITUATION YOU'VE GOT AS FAR AS THE PERMIT. USUALLY IT WOULD BE EITHER TO THE PERSON YOU PURCHASED IT FROM OR IF IT HAS BEEN A LOST PERMIT. A LOT OF TIMES THE DMV CAN REGISTER IT BY YOU, BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU ADVICE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO GO ABOUT IT. IF YOU CAN'T GET IT FROM THE ORIGINAL OWNER TO YOU, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILE IT AS A LOST PERMIT. AND MAYBE THE DMV IS ABLE TO RUN A SEARCH TO YOUR NAME. OKAY, I'M SURE I'M NOT GOING TO, CAUSE WHEN I BOUGHT IT, IT WAS LIKE 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO FROM SOMEBODY ON FACEBOOK. BUT. SO I DON'T HAVE CONTACT TO THOSE PERSONS AGAIN. SO I'M PRETTY SURE I'M NOT GOING TO GET THROUGH TO THEM. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ISSUE I KIND OF HAVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE AND WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED, AND I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH, IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, DO YOU WANT TO DEMOLISH OR DO YOU WANT TO REBUILD. AND EITHER WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A PERMIT TO APPLY FOR. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION WITHIN 30 DAYS, NOT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED OR REPAIRED WITHIN THIS 30 DAYS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN IDEA AND MAKE THAT DECISION WHICH HAPPENS, AND THEN YOU'LL BE CONTROLLED BY THE TIMELINE THAT THE PERMIT ALLOWS FOR. BUT YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY HAVE A PLAN OF ATTACK INSTEAD OF THIS IDEA OF JUST RANDOMLY, I THINK I'M GOING TO REPAIR IT, BUT NOT HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT END POINT. WE WANT TO SEE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF CONTINUATION GOING ON ABOUT GETTING PROGRESS MADE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT APPLICATION AND GET A PLAN OF ATTACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? WELL, BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THEN I'M PROBABLY NEED TO GO TO THE DMV TO TRY AND SEE IF I CAN GET A TITLE FIRST, BECAUSE TO DO ANY WORK, I HAVE TO GET A TITLE BEFORE I CAN GET THE PERMIT GOING. CORRECT. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE TITLE. I, I DON'T WORK IN THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE OF YOU, BUT USUALLY YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP OVER A PROPERTY IN ORDER TO GET A PERMIT TO REPAIR THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING AT NOW. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PROVE THAT I'M THE OWNER. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO THAT'S WHERE MY DILEMMA COME FROM. NOW, YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN DO IS SHOW LIKE MAILS AND SO FORTH THAT COMES THERE. BUT FOR A PHYSICAL DOCUMENT LIKE THE TITLE OR A BILL OF SALE, I DON'T HAVE THAT AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE ALL THAT WAS CERTAINLY TALK TO THE DMV, SINCE WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOVERNED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY A MOBILE HOME WOULD BE ABLE TO BE MOVED ALONG THE HIGHWAY. SO THAT'S WHY DOT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT. AND THE DMV WOULD BE INVOLVED IN ASSESSING THAT TITLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TRY TO SEE IF I CAN GO TO THE DMV THEN. YEAH. AND SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL PERMITTING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO REQUIRE OF YOU SO THAT YOU CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM INSTEAD OF JUST SHOOTING ME. YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW SOME SORT OF OWNERSHIP, SO, I DON'T KNOW, TALK TO THE DMV AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP PUSH IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR YOU. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. AND THEY'RE HERE RIGHT IN THIS BUILDING. SURE. I'LL GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. THAT'S IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SIR? JUST SO THAT MR. YOUNG
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UNDERSTANDS THE CONSEQUENCES THAT HE'S FACING, I WOULD ENVISION THAT THE DMV PROCESS WOULD TAKE IN EXCESS OF 30 DAYS ITSELF. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF HE GOES DOWN THERE AND EXPLAINS WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, HE CAN AT LEAST FIGURE OUT HOW HE NEEDS TO GO ABOUT IT. AND BY ALL MEANS, HIS APPLICATION PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE 30 DAYS, IS THAT HE APPLIES FOR EITHER A DEMOLITION PERMIT OR HE APPLIES FOR A PERMIT FOR REBUILD. SO NOBODY IS SAYING HE HAS TO GET IT DONE IN THAT TIMEFRAME BY ANY MEANS, BUT HE'S GOT TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND APPLY. IN SPEAKING WITH MR. YOUNG, I BELIEVE HIS INTENTION, SINCE HE'S IN THE TRADE HIMSELF, IS TO MAKE THE REPAIRS SUBSEQUENT TO THE ORDINANCES AS TODAY. SO I'M MOVING THAT HE WOULD APPLY FOR THE TITLE TRANSFER AND THEN MAKE APPLICATION. AND IF THE TITLE TRANSFER ITSELF IS EXTENDED FOR SOME REASON, DOES THAT COMPLY WITH THE COURT'S ORDER FOR THE 30 DAY WINDOW TO WORK WITHIN? IF HE IS APPLIED FOR THE TITLE AND HE HAS GONE THROUGH DMV AND THERE IS SOME HOLDUP BECAUSE OF DMV, THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ADVISED OF THAT HOLDUP. AND I DON'T MIND GIVING TEN DAY EXTENSIONS FOR THREE EXTENSIONS TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF, WHICH WOULD BE 30 DAYS IN TOTAL. BUT AT LEAST THEN WE KNOW DMV IS THE REASON FOR THE HOLDUP. AND AS LONG AS HE'S PROACTIVE IN HIS ACTIONS, CORRECT, HE NEEDS TO SHOW SOME PROACTIVE MOVEMENT. THANK YOU MA'AM, YOU ARE VERY WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPERTY. AGAIN, 310 DAY EXTENSIONS. IF DMV IS THE REASON FOR THE HOLDUP, IF DMV IS HOLDING EVERYTHING BACK TO GET THAT TITLE TAKEN CARE OF, AND THAT'S A DELAY, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY ASSESS 310 DAY EXTENSIONS IN WRITING IF NEEDED.BUT BEFORE IT HAS TO COME BACK TO ME. BUT WE'VE GOT IT SET FOR HEARING AGAIN ON MAY 15TH. SO ARE WE JUST AFTER THE 30 DAYS? YEAH. SO I'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW AT THAT POINT IN TIME IF WE'VE HAD TO EXTEND OR AT LEAST GIVE ME AN UPDATE. SO WE KNOW THAT THINGS KEEP MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL CONCLUDE TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20243467 PROPERTY ADDITIONS 2628 LAUREL AVENUE, LOT EIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO LETTER E. IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT. CASE 20243465. PROPERTY ADDRESS 2628 LAUREL AVENUE LOT C. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN THIS SLIDE NUMBER TWO HAS THE AERIAL VIEW FOR LOCATION PURPOSES. INCORPORATED BEACH AREA. SLIDE NUMBER THREE IS AN AERIAL WAS TAKEN IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. AND IT THE MOBILE HOME THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IS LOT C. AND IT IS CIRCLED IN RED AND LABELED AS LOT C. AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 7TH OF 2024. WE DID RECEIVE A COMPLAINT ON THIS PROPERTY FOR THE VEHICLES. INVESTIGATOR BRANDON IRWIN. AND INSPECTOR THORP DID GO TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK, AND DURING THEIR INSPECTION, THERE WERE THREE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOMES OBSERVED. PHOTO NUMBER FIVE. AND SIX ARE FROM THAT NOVEMBER 7TH INSPECTION ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024, INSPECTOR THORP DID A COMPLETED A BUILDING INSPECTION AND HE IS HERE TO TESTIFY AGAIN.
INSPECTOR THORP, I WAS DURING THIS PROCEDURE HERE WE WERE ABLE, LIKE I SAID, LOOK AT ALL THESE MOBILE HOMES. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE LOT C SINGLE WIDE MOBILE HOME POWER WATER WAS AVAILABLE. IT WAS BEING HESITATED AT THE TIME WITH SEVERAL OCCUPANTS. WE DID MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM AT THE TIME AND EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON. NEXT PHOTO PLEASE. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S HEAVILY DAMAGED. THE STUDS ARE ROTTED OUT. SOME OF THEM ARE MISSING. A LOT OF SIDING IS REMOVED. THE WHITE PORTION IS THE GYPSUM ON THE INSIDE. SHEETROCK AND THEN SPRAY FOAM HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE. HOT WATER HEATER HAS BEEN REMOVED. THERE'S AN ON DEMAND HOT WATER HEATER OR SOME KIND OF UNIT THERE THAT THEY'VE PUT IN. YOU CAN SEE ALONG THE BOTTOM THERE, THE RIM JOIST IS COMPLETELY ROTTED OUT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT HOLDS THE FLOOR
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JOISTS IN ONTO THE FRAME OF THE MOBILE HOME. WITHOUT THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS THING, OR YOU HAVE TO LIFT IT AND DO ALL THE REPAIRS. NEXT PHOTO PLEASE. CLOSER VIEW TO THE FAR RIGHT THERE. THAT IS THAT THAT FIBERGLASS PIECE OR THE WOOD IS LEANING ON. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SHOWER INSERT. SO THERE'S NO PROTECTION BETWEEN THE ELEMENTS OUTSIDE AND THE INTERIOR. AND OF COURSE THE FLOOR UNDERNEATH IT IS ROTTED OUT. THE END JUST HAD SOME VENTS ON THE WINDOW AND JUST TAKING PICTURES OF ALL, ALL, ALL CORNERS OF THE MOBILE HOME.ALONG THE BACK. SAME THING. MOST OF THE TIN WAS RIPPED OFF. INSULATION IS DAMAGED UNDERNEATH ROTTED WALL BOARDS OR STUDS IN THE WALL. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE UPRIGHT WALL STUDS DON'T EVEN TOUCH THE BOTTOM PLATE OR THE RIM JOISTS. SO I DON'T I DON'T SEE HOW THIS MOBILE HOME IS STAYING UP ANY, ANY LONGER. THERE YOU GO. THERE'S NO BOTTOM PLATE, NO RIM JOIST ON THE BACK AS WELL. ANOTHER PORTION OF IT. IT WAS ABOUT FOUR LARGE AREAS IN THE BACK JUST LIKE THIS. AS THAT ONE SITS AGAIN UNFIT. UNSAFE. THANK YOU. TONY BRUNI, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT ON DECEMBER 30TH, 2024, I SENT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION CERTIFIED REGULAR MAIL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON JANUARY 14TH, 2025. NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS ALSO SENT TO THE TENANT ON THAT SAME DATE. THAT NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON JANUARY 6TH, 2025. FEBRUARY 24TH I RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. AND IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION. MARCH 4TH NOTICE OF VIOLATION NOTICE OF HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED REGULAR MAIL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. THAT NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON MARCH 19TH, 2025. ALSO SENT A NOTICE VIOLATION NOTICE HEARING TO THE TENANT IN LOT C. THAT NOTICE WAS DELIVERED ON MARCH 7TH, 2025. I SENT A COURTESY COPY OF THE NOTICE TO BRITNEY WILLIAMS. ON MARCH 27TH. THE PROPERTY WAS POSTED. APRIL 7TH. I INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION, NO PERMITS, AND THE CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. ANYTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME? NOT AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THIS PROPERTY? COME ON UP. HEY, YOU GOT TO MAKE THAT DRIVE FROM ATLANTA TO BE WORTH IT, RIGHT? IT WAS WORTH IT WITH SEAFOOD DINNER LAST NIGHT. JUST TO REFERENCE THE PREVIOUS VIOLATION NOTICES AND THE TIMELINE I GAVE YOU EARLIER. WE'VE ALSO ADMITTED THOSE INTO EVIDENCE TO HERE. SO WE'VE NOTIFIED THE TENANT OF ALL THESE ISSUES. THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR LEASE, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE TENANTS. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT IT'S OWNED ONCE AGAIN BY THE TENANT, NOT BY THE PARK. BUT ULTIMATELY WE WILL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO HANDLE THE SITUATION. JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT CONCERN. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THE QUESTION OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. SHE DID LEAVE. SHE WAS HERE EARLIER. AND I THINK FROM WHAT SHE SPOKE OF DURING THE EARLIER VIOLATION DISCUSSION, SHE SPOKE OF HOW HER SON IS PART OF THE DEMISE OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT HIM NOT BEING IN THE PROPERTY ANYMORE WAS PART OF HER RESOLUTION IN TRYING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS.
DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATION FOR ME ON THIS PROPERTY? WE DO, AND IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDRESS, 2628 LAURIE AVENUE, LOT C, IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17 OF BAY COUNTY CODE. THE PROPER NOTICE OF HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT THAT A VIOLATION.
BAY COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO EXISTS IN THE FORM OF UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME THAT THE MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME OF 30 DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY ADDRESSING THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME, AS FOLLOWS. APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AND ANY AND ALL PROHIBITED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS DEFINED IN THE BAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND REMOVE ALL DEBRIS FROM THE PROPERTY OR REPAIR THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AS FOLLOWS.
SUBMIT A COMPLETE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION TO BAY COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE
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APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATION FOR THE SPECIFIC MODEL OF THE MOBILE HOME TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION OR ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL HOME TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. REPAIR OR REMODELING THE MOBILE HOME SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. STRUCTURE SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO, THE ROOF SYSTEM, THE WALL AND FLOOR SYSTEMS, WINDOWS AND EXTERIOR DOORS, ELECTRICAL REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGNED EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS THE PLUMBING. REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE BY A DESIGNATED PERSON, AS DEFINED IN FLORIDA STATUTE 320 .8245, SUBSECTION FOUR. THE DETAILED ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING TIME FRAMES OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, ALL REQUIRED PERMITS, AND ALL MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATION ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS MUST PASS THE PLANS REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED. ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE BAY COUNTY BUILDING SERVICES DIVISION STAFF OR DESIGNEE. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND STRUCTURAL REPORTS, WHILE BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED AND ALL PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE. IF AT ANY TIME THE REQUIRED PERMITS UNDER THIS ORDER EXPIRE, THEY SHALL CONSTITUTE A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER. IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESPONDENT TO CONTACT THE FOREIGN CODE.ENFORCEMENT OF ANY PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE, AND THAT IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE ABOVE ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, BE FINED $1,000 SHALL BE IMPOSED. SUCH FINES SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, NONCOMPLIANCE SHALL ALSO BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED IF A RESPONDENT OBTAINS A DEMOLITION OR BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET ABOVE, AND THEN ALLOWS THE PERMIT TO EXPIRE TO BE CANCELED OR REVOKED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY AND BECOME OR BECOMES VOID FOR ANY OTHER REASON, AND WE DO HAVE A MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. COMPLIANCE HEARING. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ME AT THIS TIME ABOUT THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT. SO THAT YOU KNOW MR. CROFT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME ISSUE BETWEEN OWNERSHIP PROPERTY VERSUS OWNERSHIP OF THE MOBILE HOME THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY.
ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT HOLD OVER YOUR SHOULDERS TO FIGURE OUT. PLEASE KNOW THAT WHEN THIS GETS LOOKED BACK AT IN THE COMPLIANCE HEARING AS TO WHETHER PROPERTY WAS IN COMPLIANCE OR VIEWED UNDER THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE LISTED HERE, THIS $1,000 FINE COMES BACK BEFORE ME TO DECIDE WHAT FACTORS WENT INTO IT. SHORT VERSION OF ME SAYING THAT IS THAT IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME. IF SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, CAN'T DO THIS RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE IT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST DISAPPEARING AND NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. SO IF CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS TO GO BACK OUT AND RE NOTICE THE PROPERTY, REDO EVERYTHING, BRING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER HEARING, DO ALL THAT STUFF AGAIN. THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE EXPENSE AND MORE TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT, SO IT DEFINITELY MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN I COME BACK AND LOOK AT THE FINE BEING ASSESSED. SHORT VERSION OF THAT IS IF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE LANDLORD ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, BUT IT CAN'T BE DONE BY SOMEBODY INDIVIDUALLY, THAT INFORMATION WOULD HELP IF CODE ENFORCEMENT AT LEAST KNEW THAT INFO, AND WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO IT JUST SITTING THERE WITH NOBODY KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY. JUST THAT YOU KNOW, THAT I KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE EITHER GOING TO DISAPPEAR AND NOT WORRY ABOUT IT, OR THEY LEAVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH. SO.
THE CLARIFICATION, ALL RIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT CODE ENFORCEMENT'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20243465 PROPERTY ADDRESSES 2628 LAURIE AVENUE, LOT C. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO LETTER F ON THE
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AGENDA. IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT. CASE 20241573. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 7203. HIGHWAY 2302. ALL RIGHT. SLIDE NUMBER TWO IS AN AERIAL VIEW FROM FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. FOR LOCATION PURPOSES, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE KIND OF BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER OUTLINED IN BLUE. IT IS LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED BAY COUNTY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS SOUTHPORT. WE HAVE TO THE RIGHT. THAT'S HIGHWAY 77, AND IN THE TOP RIGHT IS SOUTHPORT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SLIDE NUMBER THREE DOES SHOW THAT THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A FLOOD ZONE. THAT IS THE GREEN IN THAT SLIDE. ON MAY 15TH, THE BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION RECEIVED A COMPLAINT OF AN UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME.AND ON MAY 20TH, INVESTIGATOR TONY BRUNING INITIATED THIS CASE ALONG WITH SCOTT THORPE. YOU GUYS GO OUT TOGETHER AND BOTH ARE HERE. TO TESTIFY. SORRY FOR HIDING ON ME, YOU KNOW. CARD AFTERNOON AGAIN. DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME THAT SITS ON THIS LOT. IT WAS MOVED HERE IN THIS STATE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER AS WELL. DO YOU KNOW WHERE DID YOU GET THIS FROM? LOCALLY. IN TOWN, FROM MERCEDES, FROM MERCEDES AVENUE. I'M SORRY. WAS IT FROM MERCEDES AVENUE? YES. OKAY. SO THIS WAS A MOBILE HOME THAT. OFFICER CLARKSON AND I HAD CONDEMNED. AND A FURTHER CASE, THE LADY THAT OWNED IT KNEW IT WAS CONDEMNED AND IT WAS SOLD TO THESE INDIVIDUALS, UNFORTUNATELY. BUT AS YOU SEE, THIS IS WHAT IT WAS MOVED TO. MOVED HERE TO AND IN THIS STATE.
SO THE EXTERIOR SHEETING IS ROTTED, WEATHER DAMAGED, ROTTING UNDER THE WINDOWS, OF COURSE, ROTTING AROUND THE DOORS. THE ROOF IS IN HORRIBLE CONDITION. THERE'S HOLES IN IT AND THE TINS RIPPED OFF. THE DECKING UNDERNEATH IS ROTTED AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE METAL PANELS. A LOT OF ASPHALT SHINGLES ARE DAMAGED. I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THIS DAMAGE OCCURRED TO THE ROOF AS THEY WERE MOVING IT, BUT I CAN DIG UP THOSE PHOTOS FROM MERCEDES AND SHOW THAT WHERE IT WAS SOLD FROM. THERE'S ROTTING TO THE SOFFIT EDGE MORE SHEETING DAMAGE ON THE ON THE GABLE END HERE AND ON THE END OF THE MOBILE HOME MISSING SIDING. TORN WEATHER WRAP. CLOSER VIEW OF THE FRONT THERE OF ALL THE ROTTING. AGAIN, THE RIM JOIST AT THE BOTTOM IS ROTTED OUT IN MOST AREAS. IT IS TIED DOWN TO THE FRAME OF THE MOBILE HOME, AND THE TIE DOWN POINTS ARE WHAT IS ABOVE. THE FRAME IS IN POOR CONDITION. SO THOSE METAL STRAPS YOU SEE THERE THAT HOLD THE WALL STUDS ON, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY THING THAT HOLDS IT ONTO THE MOBILE HOME FRAME. THOSE ARE ROTTED OUT. SO YOU KNOW REPAIRS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY EXTENSIVE. IF THEY I DID GO BY THIS STRUCTURE THE OTHER DAY. I NOTIFIED INVESTIGATOR BRUNING.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME WORK AND SOME NEW SHEETING PUT ON THE OUTSIDE. ONCE AGAIN, NO PERMITS.
THEY DID SUBMIT SOME ENGINEERING THROUGH A THIRD PARTY. A LADY THAT USED TO WORK FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SENT IT OVER. I DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ENGINEERING UNTIL AFTER THIS HEARING. THERE'S MORE ROTTING AROUND THE WINDOWS. WALL STUDS ARE ROTTED OUT COMPLETELY BACK THERE. THE WINDOW FRAME, THE CRIPPLES UNDERNEATH IT ARE ROTTED AS WELL, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOR UNDERNEATH HAS WATER STAINS AND DAMAGE AND ROTTING TO IT. AND SEVERAL AREAS. AND THIS IS DUE TO THE UNDERLAYMENT BEING MISSING AND MOISTURE ABSORBING THROUGH THE FLOOR. AND THAT WOOD CELLULOSE, THE WHITE STUFF THERE IS THE WOOD BREAKING DOWN ALL THAT. IT'S FROM MOISTURE AND DECAY AND IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY RIPPED OUT AND NEW, NEW SUBFLOORING PUT IN. AGAIN, MORE HOLES AND ROTTING TO THE FLOOR. THIS IS ALL VISIBLE AROUND THE BACK. INSIDE'S BEEN KIND OF PARTIALLY GUTTED AND CARPET'S BEEN PULLED OUT AND STUFF. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME CONDITION AS IT WAS WHEN IT WAS ON MERCEDES. THE WALL THERE ABOVE THE SHOWER IS ALL ROTTED AND DAMAGED. THERE'S SEPARATION FROM THE CEILING AND THE WALLS ALONG THE ABOVE THE DOOR AND THE
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CLOSET AREA THERE. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS MAYBE YOUR SHOT, BUT AS AS IT SITS THERE, IT'S DEFINITELY UNFIT. UNSAFE. LIKE I SAID, WE JUST RECEIVED ENGINEERING THE OTHER DAY. IT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN TOO MUCH OF THE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF ALL THE DAMAGED AREAS THOUGH.TONY BRUNI, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT I SUBMITTED MY INVESTIGATIVE REPORT NOTICES AND PHOTOS ON JUNE 5TH, 2020 FOR NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS SENT CERTIFIED IN REGULAR MAIL TO THE OWNER OF RECORD. THE NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON JUNE 26TH, 2024. ON THAT SAME DATE. TOOK A PHONE CALL FROM CANDIDA DALE FROM DW ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING, WHO ADVISED SHE WAS WORKING WITH THE POTENTIAL BUYER, LUKE MANNING, WHO'S HERE TODAY AND HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT INSPECTOR THORPE'S REPORT. I REFERRED HER TO INSPECTOR THORPE AND HE DEALT WITH HER ON THAT DATE. ON AUGUST 21ST, 2024, CANDIDA DALE CALLED BACK TO ADVISE SHE WOULD BE MAILING THE SCOPE OF WORK FROM AN ENGINEER TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. ON THE SAME DAY, I RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM CANDIDA REFERENCE ENGINEER PLANS, WHICH WERE INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT C AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. AUGUST 22ND, 2024. INSPECTOR THORPE REPLIED TO CANDIDO'S EMAIL. HE ADVISED THE PLANS. EXAMINER NOTED THE PLANS WOULD FAIL BECAUSE THEY DID NOT INCLUDE PHASE TWO PLANS. DECEMBER 16TH, 2024 I RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. AND IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION. WAS THIS WEATHER UP? ON THE OTHER FOUR? YES. YEAH, ON ON THIS. ON THIS DATE I NOTICED THE HOUSE REP HAD BEEN PLACED ON THE FRONT AND THE RIGHT END OF THE MOBILE HOME.
MARCH 6TH 25, 2025 NOTICE VIOLATION NOTICE HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED IN REGULAR MAIL TO THE OWNER OF RECORD. THE NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON MARCH 12TH, 2025.
THERE ARE NO ENCUMBRANCES TO NOTIFY. TAXES ARE PAID IN FULL. MARCH 27TH, 2025 I POSTED THE PROPERTY AND IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION. ON APRIL 7TH. I RE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND IT REMAINS IN VIOLATION. NO PERMITS AS OF THIS MORNING HAS BEEN OBTAINED AND THE CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH, 2025 AT 1:00 PM. THERE IS SOME AND THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN THEY COME UP. MISS CATHERINE IS IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING THE PROPERTY TO LUKE MANNING, AND I THINK THEY BROUGHT A DEED WITH THEM. AS OF THIS MORNING, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER STILL SHOWS THE PROPERTY IN KATHERINE'S NAME. ANY OTHER INFO FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? NOT THIS TIME. OKAY. WHO WANTS TO TALK TO ME? YEAH.
JUST GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, I'M CATHERINE BLAIR, 2826 MCDONALD DRIVE IN ALFRED, FLORIDA. 32420. OKAY, MISS BLAIR, TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. OKAY. SO I AS OF THE SEVENTH, THE HE HAS SATISFIED HIS AGREEMENT WITH ME BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD TO TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE. BUT SO WE DID FILE THE DEED AT THE COURTHOUSE ON THE SEVENTH. I KNOW THAT IT WON'T SHOW UP FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO PULL ANY PERMITS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. BUT HE HAS WITH HIM TODAY. THIS IS LUKE MANNING. HE'S THE ONE THAT IS NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. BUT AND THIS IS KATHLEEN, WHO IS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT IS WORKING WITH HIM TO TRY TO RECTIFY WHAT'S GOING ON, I GUESS WITH THE HOME I HAD GIVEN HIM PERMISSION TO IMPROVE THE LAND. ACCORDING TO COUNTY CODE. AND I THOUGHT WHEN THEY PULLED THE PERMIT TO BRING THE MOBILE HOME THERE, IT WAS A GOOD MOBILE HOME. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDED SOME REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, SOME ISSUE HAD SOME ISSUES UNTIL IT WAS THERE. AND THEN THE COUNTY NOTIFIES YOU, YOU KNOW, AND EVERY TIME I'VE GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM THE COUNTY, I'VE TALKED WITH LUKE AND HE'S TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHICH HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. BUT SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, I GUESS. OKAY. YEAH. DID YOU WANT THE COPY OF THIS?
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THAT'S FINE. DO YOU WANT CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. YOU CAN HAVE A LARGE SHED THAT WAS BROUGHT ON THE BACK. IT'S NOT PERMITTED EITHER. CORRECT. I WAS, IT DOESN'T. HAVE WE LOOKED SMALL. YEAH. NO, I WAS TOLD THAT BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER 120FTâ– !S BY TIMOTHY JUSTICE. YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT UNDER 120. IT'S. IT'S OVER, ISN'T IT? IT'S TEN BY 12. I THINK I'LL GO AND MEASURE IT.YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY LOOKED FOR ONE THAT I WOULDN'T NEED A PERMIT FOR BECAUSE THAT WAS TIMOTHY JUSTICE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO CONTACT ME ABOUT. I HAD MY BOAT AND MY RV OVER THERE AND HE SAID, THEY CAN'T BE THERE WITHOUT A STRUCTURE. SO THEN HE ADVISED ME. HE SAID, BUT IF YOU PUT A SHED OVER THERE THAT QUALIFIES AS A STRUCTURE, AND THEN HE FURTHER QUALIFIED, IF YOU GET ONE THAT'S 120 SQUARE FOOT OR LESS, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT.
SO I WENT RIGHT OUT AND BOUGHT ONE, INSTALLED IT OVER THERE, AND THEN HE CALLED ME A WEEK LATER SAYING IT WAS GRANDFATHERED. YOU MISSED THE DATE. SO THE RV AND THE BOAT HAD TO LEAVE. TELL ME WHAT ELSE I NEED TO KNOW. I HEARD FROM MISS BLAIR. TELL ME IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. RIGHT NOW. IT LOOKS LIKE I JUST LOOKED AT THE DEED THAT WAS FILED ON SEVENTH, OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW EVERYTHING TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE WANTED TO IN THE COURTHOUSE, BUT. YES. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO HELP HIM MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, IN TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE, BECAUSE NOW HE CAN MAYBE LEVERAGE THE LAND, WHATEVER HE'S GOT TO DO TO. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN THE STALLING POINT WAS EVERY TIME I TRIED TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED FORMS FROM HER, WHICH WAS HARD TO OBTAIN. AND THEN IT WAS YEAH, SHE WAS LIVING IN ARIZONA. SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, PERMITS COULDN'T BE PLACED BECAUSE I WASN'T THE PROPERTY OWNER, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I HAD THE, THE, THE SALES CONTRACT AND IT JUST IT JUST PUT A REAL STALL ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT. AND I MEAN, I'M KIND OF EMBARRASSED WITH IT NOW BECAUSE IT DIDN'T LOOK AS BAD WHEN IT WENT THERE, BUT IT'S FALLEN IN MORE DISREPAIR BECAUSE I'VE HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH IT. AND THEN YOU GET DEPRESSED WITH IT. YOU'RE LIKE, OH, JUST FORGET ABOUT IT. BUT BUT IT'S BEEN MY DESIRE FROM DAY ONE TO I KNEW IT WAS A PROJECT.
IT WAS A PROJECT THAT I WANTED TO UNDERTAKE. SO THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO GET IT OVER THERE. I PAID FOR THE SEPTIC TANK, WHICH WAS $12,000, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO MOVE IN AND START WORKING ON IT BECAUSE I WORK UPWARDS OF 60, 70 HOURS A WEEK. SO I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 6226 THOMAS DRIVE. WHEN YOU DO 60 HOURS WORTH OF WORK AND YOU COME HOME, YOU JUST WANT TO LAY DOWN. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET UP AND DRIVE TO SOUTHPORT AND DO ANY WORK. IF I'M THERE AND I WAKE UP ON A SATURDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I NEED TO GET OUT HERE AND DO SOMETHING WITH THIS YARD. I'VE GOT A MASSEY-FERGUSON TRACTOR RIGHT BEHIND THERE THAT CAN BUSH HOG ALL THAT, AND I JUST DON'T HAVE THE DESIRE TO GO OVER THERE AND DO IT UNTIL I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD. I'VE GOT THE ROOF PAID FOR THE GUY SET UP TO COME. I'VE GOT THE UNDERLAYMENT PAID FOR AND SET UP TO BE REINSTATED AFTER THE PIECES OF FLOORING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR REPLACED. AND THEN I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SIDING AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE PLAN OF ATTACK FIGURED OUT. YES. AND IT'S BEEN A GOOD PLAN. IT'S JUST LIKE THE ATTACK WAS. WELL, YOU NEED A PERMIT, BUT WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A PERMIT, SO. AND LITERALLY THAT THE, THE FUNDS THAT WERE GOING TO FUND THE PROJECT, WHICH YOU KNOW, NOW I HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE SLOWER THAN I WANTED TO, WAS SPENT JUST PAYING OFF MISS CATHERINE SO I CAN BE THE OWNER AND MOVE FORWARD RATHER THAN HAVING TO PLAY, YOU KNOW, PING PONG WITH EVERYBODY. SO. ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, DID YOU WANT TO TELL ME ANYTHING ELSE? JUST SO WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND HELP THEM. WE HAVE OUR PACKAGES READY. WE'VE GOT ALL THE PRODUCT APPROVALS. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO FILE UNDER. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE NOTARIZED BUILDING PERMIT NOW AND THE COMMENCEMENT. SO WE'RE READY TO BE PROACTIVE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW IF I CAN THIS IS THE ACTUAL DESIGN THAT IT WILL END UP LOOKING LIKE. NOW, IF I HADN'T SPENT THE LAST PROBABLY YEAR RESIDING AT SIX, TWO, TWO SIX THOMAS DRIVE AND SPENDING ALL THE MONEY TO LIVE ELSEWHERE, THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT TODAY. WELL. I'M GLAD THIS IS GETTING TO THAT POINT. SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS PROJECT ANYMORE. SO ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER INFO YOU NEED ME TO KNOW RIGHT NOW? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROPERTY? I DO, AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. MANNING. SO YOU PURCHASED THIS MOBILE HOME FROM AN INDIVIDUAL? YES. AND AS MR. THORPE HAD INDICATED THAT, DID SHE TELL YOU IT HAD ALREADY BEEN CONDEMNED? NO, BECAUSE THEN I
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WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED FORWARD. AND I MEAN, I LOOKED AT IT PERSONALLY BEFORE I PURCHASED IT, AND I SAW A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT NONE THAT I COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF. NOW, IF AT ANY POINT SHE SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, THE COUNTY HAS CONDEMNED THIS, I WOULD HAVE SAID, WELL, THANK YOU, HAVE A NICE DAY AND I WOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY. OKAY. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE WAY I'M HEARING AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT SOUNDS LIKE ENGINEERING HAS GONE IN THERE AND FIGURED OUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS. AND YES, WE'VE GOT DETAILS ON ALL THE STRUCTURAL REPAIRS NECESSARY. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. OKAY. IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDRESS, 7203 HIGHWAY 2302, IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, BAY COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17 OF BAY COUNTY CODE.THE PROPER NOTICE. THE HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT THAT A VIOLATION OF CODE 17 DASH TWO EXISTS IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME. THE MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME OF 30 DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY ADDRESSING THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME, AS FOLLOWS. APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME OR ANY OTHER IN ANY, ALL, ANY AND ALL PROHIBITED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS DEFINED BY THE BAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND REMOVE ALL DEBRIS FROM THE PROPERTY OR REPAIR THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AS FOLLOWS. YOU MAY NEED TO OBTAIN A SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE DETERMINATION FROM THE BAY COUNTY CERTIFIED FLOODPLAIN MANAGER. IF THE STRUCTURE IS LOCATED IN THE FLOOD ZONE, WHICH IT IS, YOU MAY JUST WANT TO VERIFY WITH THE. WHILE YOU'RE HERE, YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER. IF HE WOULD BE, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO. OKAY, WELL ACTUALLY THAT WAS DONE WHEN THIS WAS SET UP. IT'S ELEVATED ABOVE THE FLOOD ZONE. AND THEY DID THAT FOR THAT REASON OKAY. SO THEY MADE ME GO UP HIGHER THAN TYPICAL OKAY. SO SUBMIT A COMPLETED BUILDING APPLICATION TO THE BAY COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATIONS OR FOR THE SPECIFIED SPECIFIC MODEL OF THE MOBILE HOME TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL HOME TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, DIVISION. REPAIR OR REMODELING THE MOBILE HOME SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIAL AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION STRUCTURE SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE ROOF SYSTEM, WALLS. FLOOR, FLOOR SYSTEM, WINDOW AND EXTERIOR DOORS, ELECTRICAL REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. PLUMBING REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL ALSO REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTIONS. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE BY A DESIGNATED PERSON AS DEFINED IN FLORIDA STATUTE 320.8245, SUBSECTION FOUR. SUBMIT A DETAILED ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING TIME FRAMES OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. ALL REQUIRED PERMITS, AND ALL MANUFACTURE, SPECIFICATION, ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS MUST PASS THE PLANS REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED AND ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT STAFF OR DESIGNEE. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND STRUCTURAL REPORTS. ALL BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED AND ALL PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE. IF AT ANY TIME THE REQUIRED PERMITS UNDER THIS ORDER EXPIRE, IT SHALL CONSTITUTE A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESPONDENT TO CONTACT AND INFORM CODE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. THAT IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE ABOVE ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, A FINE OF $1,000 SHALL BE IMPOSED. SUCH FINES SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, NONCOMPLIANCE SHALL ALSO BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED IF THE RESPONDENT OBTAINS A DEMOLITION PERMIT OR BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET ABOVE, AND THEN ALLOWS THE PERMIT TO EXPIRE TO BE CANCELED, REVOKED, OR REVOKED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY, OR BECOMES VOID FOR ANY REASON. COLLECTIVELY, A DEFAULT AND THE CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR A COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. IN THE SAME ROOM. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. DID I RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE REPAIR LIST ON THIS, NOT THE 30 DAYS, PLEASE. SO NOW THE 30 DAYS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. THEN YOU'RE COMPLETELY GAUGED BY THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT. IT'S
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NOT WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO RUN OUT AND GET EVERYTHING DONE 30 DAYS. THAT'S NOT THAT. I KNOW WHEN YOU FIRST HEAR THAT, IT'S LIKE, ARE THEY CRAZY? I HAD TO READ IT TWICE. SO I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO EITHER DECIDE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TORN APART OR GET THE DUMP.THE PERMIT APPLIED FOR THE REPAIR. OKAY. THEY'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO COMPLETE ALL REPAIRS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER. KIND OF LIKE WE ALWAYS SAY. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE COURTHOUSE GOT IT DONE REALLY QUICKLY FOR YOU. AS SOON AS YOU FILED THAT DATE, IT ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAME YOURS. WELL, THIS KIND OF LIGHTS A FIRE. NOT BECAUSE WE EXPECT THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO GET IT DONE, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE TALKING TO ME. SO I HAVE A LOT MORE VALUE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SPEAKING TO ME. IT'S FOR THE PERSON WHO NEVER SHOWS UP. AND SO WE HAVE TO QUOTE, LIGHT A FIRE ON THE REAR END TO TRY AND GET THINGS MOVING ALONG. SO I KIND OF LIT ONE UNDER TWO, DIDN'T I? A LITTLE BIT. SHE DID, SHE DID. I SENT HIM A CERTIFIED LETTER WHEN I GOT THE CERTIFIED LETTER. YEAH. SO THIS MEANS THAT THAT PUTS YOU IN THE POSITION TO EITHER APPLY FOR THE PERMIT AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN OF ACTION, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAVE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT DEED IN HAND, YOU CAN APPLY FOR THAT PERMIT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S MISSING, WHAT'S NEEDED AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT PERMIT. AND THEN YOU'RE UNDER THE GUIDELINES OF THE PERMIT. RIGHT? OKAY. DOES THAT CLARIFY IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER? YES, IT'S A LITTLE IT'S A LITTLE SCARY TO SAY YOU WANT ME TO DO WHAT, 30 DAYS. SO ALL RIGHT I ALWAYS RECOMMEND STAY IN TOUCH WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. THEY CAN ASSIST IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEM AT ALL. OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DEALT WITH PERMITTING BEFORE, SO IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEM OR ANY ISSUE YOU'VE GOT, STAY IN TOUCH WITH THEM. THEY CAN HELP SHOOT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. AT THIS TIME, I WILL RECOMMEND THAT THE SAME RECOMMENDATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. IS THAT IN PLACE WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPERTY? THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20241573. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 7203 HIGHWAY 2302. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE HAVE A LETTER. LETTER H H ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20241700. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2313 MICHIGAN AVENUE. YEAH. THIS CASE WENT BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ON FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025 AND WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF A COUNTY CODE 17 TWO, IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. JUNK, UNSCREENED, UNUSED PERSONAL PROPERTY, OVERGROWTH AND DERELICT VEHICLES. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR AT THAT HEARING. PHOTOS ARE ATTACHED AND INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT A AND. IN THE CASE FILE, AND INSPECTOR THORP WAS ASSIGNED THE CASE. AT THAT POINT, HE SORT OF TESTIFIED. INSPECTOR THORP THE CASE, AS MISS ASHMAN SAID, IT WENT IN FRONT OF YOU. FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025. THE MAGISTRATE OR THE RESPONDENT HAD 45 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER, OR A FINE OF $1,000 WOULD BE IMPOSED. SHOULD THE VIOLATION REMAIN, THE MAGISTRATE DIRECTED STAFF TO ABATE THE NUISANCE AND ALL INCIDENTAL COSTS OF ENFORCEMENT TO CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE REAL PROPERTY ON WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. A COPY OF THE ORDER IS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT B AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE ON MARCH FEBRUARY. THESE ARE JUST THE PHOTOS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE TIME OF THAT FIRST HEARING. JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY OF THE CASE. THANK YOU.
AND SCOTT, JUST AS A REMINDER. YES, THAT'S THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE BACK OF THE DRIVEWAY. AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO JUST INITIAL PHOTOS FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTION. UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. I WILL GET TO THE MARCH 31ST INSPECTION. AND ON MARCH 31ST INSPECTIONS COMPLETED AND THE PROPERTY REMAINED IN VIOLATION. THE ACCESSORY IS STILL THERE. SOME JUNK AND TRASH AND THE VEHICLE IN THE FRONT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE OPERABLE. WITH TRAILERS.
OKAY, WELL, THIS IS FROM MARCH 31ST. THAT'S BEEN CLEANED UP. HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY ENGINEERING OR PERMITS? NO, MA'AM. NO. NO PERMITS, NO ENGINEERING AS OF TO DATE. HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVED. ALL
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RIGHT. ANY OTHER INFO FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME? NO, MA'AM. AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION? DID YOU GET SWORN IN ALREADY, SIR? I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. YOU GET A CHANCE TO GET SWORN IN, DID I? WHAT HE DID, HE DID. THANK YOU. JUST GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. TERRY KELLER, 2313 MICHIGAN AVENUE. ALL RIGHT, MR. KELLER, TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY. OKAY. THEY THEY SOUND LIKE I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, BUT. BUT I'VE DONE A LOT, AND A LOT OF IT DOESN'T EVEN HAS BEEN DONE SINCE THIS IS TAKEN. OKAY. THAT THAT THERE HAS BEEN CLEANED OUT, THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CLEANED OUT. THERE'S NOTHING UNSAFE ABOUT THAT BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY KEEP SAYING THAT IT IS UNFIT AND UNSAFE. THE DETERMINATION THAT WE MADE AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING, I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT. THE PROPERTY WAS ALREADY DETERMINED WHAT PORTIONS WERE UNFIT AND UNSAFE. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED. WHAT I HAVE RECENT PICTURES OF ARE ON MARCH 31ST. I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WORSE THAN DONE STUFF'S NO LONGER THERE. THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THESE ARE THE ONLY PICTURES I HAVE. SO IF ANYTHING NEW HAS BEEN DONE SINCE THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN, I CAN'T JUST GO ON. YOUR WORD. THE EVIDENCE YOU PRESENT TO ME IS THE EVIDENCE I HAVE TO GO OFF.YOU WANT ME TO GO HOME AND TAKE A PICTURE? WELL, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. THE HEARING STARTED AT 1:00, SO YOU NEEDED TO BRING ANY PICTURES OR INFORMATION EITHER TO CODE ENFORCEMENT OR TO ME. WHEN WE FIRST HAD THE HEARING. OKAY, IN THIS PICTURE, ALL THIS STUFF OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE HAS BEEN CLEANED UP. OKAY, OKAY. THE BUILDING HAS BEEN CLEANED UP. NOW, I, I DO NOT SAY THAT IT'S BEEN PAINTED OR ANYTHING. I'M, I'VE GOT TO PAINT TO PAINT IT. AND I'VE TALKED TO A MAN ABOUT PUTTING A ROOF ON IT, BUT I HAD TO TELL HIM THAT I HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE I'VE RUN OUT OF MONEY, BECAUSE, SEE, I'M 81 YEARS OLD, I'M ON SOCIAL SECURITY, ALL RIGHT? I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY SAVED UP, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT NOW. BUT THERE WAS A WASHER DRYER AND THERE WAS A FREEZER THERE. ALL THAT'S BEEN HAULED OFF. BUT ALL THAT COSTS MONEY, YOU SEE. OKAY, SO. AND THE TRAILER'S GONE. AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SITTING OUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE ARE, ARE HER FLOWER POTS.
AND YOU KNOW THAT. NOW, MY PLAN, THIS BUILDING IS A CONCRETE BUILDING AND IT'S HAD NO ELECTRICITY HOOKED TO IT AT ALL. FROM THE POWER BOX SINCE THE HURRICANE. THE MAN THAT. FIXED MY ELECTRICITY IN MY HOUSE WAS PAID TWICE TO PUT THAT LINE BACK, BUT HE NEVER DID IT. AND I CALLED HIM AND CALLED HIM AND CALLED HIM. HE WAS HAD SOME ELECTRICAL COMPANY. HE TOLD ME HE WAS A COMMISSIONER. HIS NAME, I THINK, WAS BROWN, BUT I'M NOT SURE ANYWAY. BUT I CALLED HIM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND HE HE JUST WOULDN'T COME BACK AND FINISH IT. SO WHAT COULD I DO ABOUT THAT? NOTHING. OKAY. BUT SEE, YOU GAVE ME TILL THE 10TH. SO WHY DID THEY DO ALL THIS ON THE 31ST AND NOW NOTHING'S. IT LOOKS LIKE NOTHING'S BEEN DONE BECAUSE I WAS WORKING ON THE OTHER SIDE A LOT TO. YOU SEE, I HAD THE OTHER SIDE WORKING, AND I WAS GETTING RID OF THE TRAILER AND ALL THAT STUFF. WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS ORDER THAT WAS ENTERED, AND IT SAID THAT YOU HAD 45 DAYS TO MAKE A DECISION OF EITHER THAT MENTAL TODAY OR SENDING THE INFORMATION TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO REBUILD. WELL, YOU APPLIED FOR ANY PERMITS. THE MAN I TALKED TO, HE ARGUED ME DOWN THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED A PERMIT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY SIX. IT'S SIX BY TEN.
THAT'S THE SIZE OF IT. TO PUT A ROOF ON IT. AND I DIDN'T KNOW. BUT FROM THE WAY YOU TALKED THAT
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YOU WERE EXPECTING A PERMIT. SO I TRIED TO ARGUE WITH HIM. BUT HE'S A ROOFER. HE SHOULD KNOW.BUT I ARGUED WITH HIM ANYWAY. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO'S RIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE. SO I ARGUED. FROM WHAT YOU SAID, WE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS THAN JUST THE ROOF IS NOT CORRECT ON THE PROPERTY. THE ROOF? WHAT? WE HAVE MORE ISSUES WITH THE STRUCTURE THAN JUST THE FACT THERE'S NOT A ROOF ON THERE. I'M LOOKING AT HOLES FROM THE ACTUAL CONCRETE BLOCKS MISSING AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE CONCRETE BLOCK? THERE'S SPACES WHERE THEY'RE MISSING, SIR. THERE'S STEP CRACKING IN THE TOP RIGHT. YEAH. ON THE LEFT OF THE DOORWAY.
YEAH. I MEAN, A LOT OF THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE DOORWAY OF MY SON IS FIXED, AND MY SON HAS A DOORWAY, A DOOR FOR ME, AND HE'S PUTTING THE, YOU KNOW. THE. YEAH, HE'S PUTTING THAT ON IT. BUT HE HAD A WRECK AND HE BROKE HIS SHOULDER. SO HE HASN'T GOT IT DONE YET, BUT HE'LL HAVE IT DONE PRETTY SOON. BY THE TIME I CAN GET THE ROOF ON. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW.
I THOUGHT PROBABLY YOU WERE SAYING IT WAS UNSAFE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRIC WIRES THAT ARE THERE, BUT THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY ADDED IN IT AT ALL FROM THE POWER BOX, THAT WHOLE LINE, YOU SEE THE LINE GOING ACROSS THERE, THAT WHOLE LINE IS CUT OFF. BUT THE LINE IS STILL THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S HOOKED TO THE POWER BOX.
BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT TURNED ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO POWER GOING TO. NO, THERE'S NO POWER GOING THROUGH THAT LINE AT ALL. ANY OF THOSE LINES. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR, IS WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ASKING FOR TODAY? BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD A HEARING PREVIOUSLY WHERE THIS WAS DETERMINED TO BE AN UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. AND I'M NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR EVIDENCE BEING PRESENTED THAT GIVES ME ANY INDICATION OF ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. WELL, I SAID BEFORE THAT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF, AND THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE, SIR. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE EVIDENCE YOU PRESENTED. I UNDERSTAND CODE ENFORCEMENT PRESENTED EVIDENCE. I MADE A DECISION AND THERE WAS AN ORDER ENTERED THAT SAID YOU HAD 45 DAYS TO EITHER APPLY FOR DEMOLITION PERMIT OR APPLY FOR SOME SORT OF PERMIT TO REBUILD THE UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE IT SAFE.
ACCORDING TO WHOEVER DECIDED THAT IT WAS UNSAFE. SO WHO WOULD I HIRE TO DO THAT? I THINK THAT WHAT WAS REQUIRED IN THE ORDER WAS THAT YOU WOULD APPLY WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD REQUIRE ENGINEERING OR SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE UNFIT STRUCTURE, THE ROOF, THE DOOR, THE CRACKING IN THE CONCRETE BLOCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE DEALT WITH. AND, WELL, I REALLY DON'T SEE A CRACK IN THE CONCRETE BLOCK, BUT I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT. OR HIS WORD FOR IT. SO IF YOU'LL TELL ME WHO TO APPLY TO, I'LL DO IT. YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT. IS THAT HERE? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND WHAT DO I DO? TELL THEM I NEED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT OR DEMOLITION PERMIT, ONE OR THE OTHER. SO YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE OR YOU'RE GOING TO REBUILD IT. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT SOME SORT OF IDEA OF WHAT THE PLAN OF ATTACK, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO REBUILD THE STRUCTURE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FIX THE ENGINEERING ISSUES? DOES AN ENGINEER NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S STRUCTURALLY SOUND, THE CRACKS THAT ARE THERE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE VERY. UNSTRAIGHT I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WAY TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT THE DOOR FRAME IS NOT EXACTLY STRAIGHT. IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AS, YEAH, IT'S GOT TO BE SINK DOWN. WHAT WHAT DO WE
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NEED TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY? I WANT TO JUST FIX THE PROPERTY, PUT THE ROOF ON IT, AND LET MY WIFE USE IT TO PUT ALL THE YOU SEE HOW SHE'S GOT HER? FLOWERPOTS STACKED ALL OVER THE PLACE AND POT AND SOIL AND ALL THAT. SHE CAN USE IT. USE IT TO PUT THOSE THINGS IN. I'VE ALREADY CLEANED IT OUT AND THROWN AWAY ALL OF THE JUNK THAT WAS IN IT. WELL, FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN IN THE LAST TIME WE HAD A HEARING, IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE UNFIT, UNSAFE THE WAY IT STOOD PREVIOUSLY. I CERTAINLY WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR GETTING THE PERMIT REQUIRED INSTEAD OF WE'RE SEE, THERE'S WHERE I HAD HAD THE WASHER AND DRYER IN IT, BUT THAT'S I HAD THAT TAKEN OUT AND GOT I GOT RID OF ALL THAT. IF YOU LOOK REALLY CLOSELY ON THAT PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE CONCRETE BLOCKS, THERE'S CRACKS.AND THAT INDICATES MAYBE IT'S SETTLED BETWEEN THAT CONCERN AND THE NON-STRAIGHT. SEE, I'VE CLEANED ALL THAT OFF. IT'S ALL BEEN CLEANED UP. OKAY. BUT CLEANING EVERYTHING DOESN'T ALWAYS. I DON'T WANT YOU TO PUT PAINT ON A PIG AND NOT MAKE IT A PIG. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IF WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. WE DON'T WANT TO COVER IT UP AND MAKE IT UNFIT. UNSAFE FOR YOU TO BE INSIDE OF. I KNOW YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR YOUR WIFE TO BE ABLE TO STORE THINGS, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE OR YOU ARE SAFE WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE OF IT. AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT DETERMINED TO BE STRUCTURALLY SAFE. OKAY, I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS UNSAFE AND I DON'T SEE ANY I MEAN, LIKE, I DON'T SEE ANY CRACK. BLOCKS OR ANYTHING THERE. I JUST DON'T SEE IT. YOU DON'T SEE THE CRACKS BETWEEN THE CONCRETE BLOCKS? NO. DO YOU SEE CRACKS? BECAUSE I DON'T I MEAN, THERE'S SOME LITTLE LINES, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT. SO I NEED TO HAVE IT CHECKED AND SEE WHAT I NEED TO GET DONE. BESIDES MYSELF. OR YOU NEEDS TO SAY THAT THIS STRUCTURE NEEDS X, Y, AND Z DONE TO MAKE IT SAFE. AND THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO GET TAKEN CARE OF IN THAT 45 DAYS, SO THAT YOU COULD APPLY FOR WHATEVER. AND SOMEBODY ELSE COULD LOOK AT THAT STRUCTURE AND SAY, YES, BECAUSE THE WAY IT LOOKED, IT DOESN'T LOOK, I KNOW IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, BUT. I'LL GET IT FIXED. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR INFORMATION FOR ME? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE HE, HE IS. I MEAN, HE'S TALKING LIKE I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING AND I FEEL LIKE I'VE DONE A LOT. OKAY, WELL, I'M CERTAIN THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY DONE AN EXTREME AMOUNT, AND I GET THAT. I ONLY HAVE PICTURES FROM MARCH 31ST. OKAY. THE TRAILER THAT WAS THERE IS GONE. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S ONE CAR RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE MY CAR IS IN THE SHOP. OKAY. SO IT HAS INSURANCE. IT HAS A TAG OKAY. THIS ONE HAS INSURANCE AND TAG.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GONE TO THE SHOP. NOW SEE THAT HELPED ME TO GET RID OF MY MONEY REAL QUICK BECAUSE WHEN I WAS HERE BEFORE, I HAD JUST HAD TO HAVE THE TRANSMISSION FIXED. OKAY. SO NOW I HAVE HAD TO PUT A NEW MOTOR IN IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GOT FOR ME? YEAH I DON'T. ALL RIGHT. OVER THERE HAS BEEN CLEANED UP OKAY. CODE ENFORCEMENT. DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROPERTY? YES. IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MAGISTRATE DETERMINE THE RESPONDENT WAS GIVEN ADEQUATE TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION. AND THE RESPONDENT DID OR DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE MAGISTRATE'S ORDER. BUT THE MAGISTRATE IMPOSED INITIAL FINE OF $1,000 FOR NONCOMPLIANCE, AND THAT THE MAGISTRATE AUTHORIZES COUNTY STAFF AND ANY CONTRACTOR HIRED BY THE COUNTY TO ENTER ONTO THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY TO ABATE THE VIOLATION IDENTIFIED IN THIS ORDER, AND THAT UPON RECORDING OF THIS ORDER AND PUBLIC RECORDS OF BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE COST LEVIED AGAINST THE RESPONDENT SHALL CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE LAND ON WHICH
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THE VIOLATION EXISTS AGAINST ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAY ASSESS THE COST OF ABATING THE VIOLATION AGAINST THE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO THE UNIFORM ASSESSMENT COLLECTION ACT IN CHAPTER 21 OF THE COUNTY CODE, AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPERTY. THE CONCERNS THAT WERE ADDRESSED DURING THE PREVIOUS HEARING ARE NOT ADDRESSED YET. I WILL ADD TO THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT PERMITTED TO GO ON THE PROPERTY AND RECTIFY THE CONCERNS FOR FIVE DAYS FROM TODAY'S DATE. THAT WILL GIVE YOU FIVE DAYS TO APPLY FOR WHATEVER PERMITS OR DO ANY SORT OF CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THE UNSAFE, UNFIT STRUCTURE THAT'S ON THERE. AND THAT WAY YOU HAVE FIVE DAYS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SINCE SOME STUFF HAS BEEN DONE. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU FIVE MORE DAYS TO GET THAT PERMIT PULLED. BUT IF IT'S NOT DONE WITHIN THE FIVE DAYS FROM TODAY'S DATE, COUNTY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR THAT VIOLATION UP. OKAY, I FEEL THAT I'M BEING HARASSED. OKAY. WELL, I PROMISE YOU, I'M NOT HARASSING YOU IN ANY. I MEAN, I HAVE I HAVE CLEANED UP AND. EVERYTHING I CAN THINK OF, BUT IT'S NEVER SATISFACTORY TO THEM, OKAY? AND I DON'T EVEN SEE WHY. I MEAN, THAT BUILDING IS CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF SHAPE, THAT IT'S GOING TO FALL DOWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IF AN ENGINEER CAN TELL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT CASE, THEN WE'RE ALL IN A BETTER POSITION. BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT LOOKS AT IT AND SEES CRACKS IN THERE AND SAYS, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. AND THEN, GOD FORBID, IT FALLS AND HURTS YOUR WIFE WHEN SHE'S IN THERE PUTTING POTS IN THERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. AND THAT'S THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT WE WANT TO GO THROUGH. OKAY. SO IS THAT THE ONLY PROBLEM? THE BUILDING? NO, NO, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT. WELL, WHAT AGAIN, WHAT I'VE SEEN ARE PHOTOS ON MARCH 31ST. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO ME TO SHOW THAT ANYTHING ELSE WAS DONE. OR DO I COME BACK HERE IN FIVE DAYS? NO, I WILL NOT BE HERE IN FIVE DAYS. THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE A HEARING SCHEDULED AND SET. BUT THE ORDER IS WHAT THE ORDER IS. YOU HAVE FIVE DAYS FROM TODAY TO GET THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLIED FOR. UNDER THE PREVIOUS REQUIREMENTS, EITHER A DEMOLITION OR TO REPAIR THE UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. ALL THE GUIDELINES FROM THAT PREVIOUS ORDER THAT WAS ENTERED. IF YOU DON'T DO THAT WITHIN FIVE DAYS, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE PERMITTED TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF AND REMOVED, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20241700 PROPERTY ADDRESS 2313 MICHIGAN AVENUE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON ON THE AGENDA TO LETTER I. ITS CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20241067. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 9407 INDIAN BLUFF ROAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, INSPECTOR THORPE. AGAIN. THIS CASE WENT BEFORE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR BAY COUNTY ON FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025. WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE SECTION 17 DASH TWO, IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. APPLIANCES, OVERGROWTH, JUNK AND TRASH. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR AT THE HEARING VIA PHONE. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY ARE INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT A AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. ON THAT DATE, THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED THAT THE RESPONDENT HAVE 30 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER, OR A FINE OF $1,000 WILL BE IMPOSED SHOULD VIOLATION REMAIN. THE MAGISTRATE DIRECTED STAFF TO ABATE THE NUISANCE AND ALL INCIDENTAL COSTS OF ENFORCEMENT TO CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE REAL PROPERTY ON WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. A COPY OF THE ORDER IS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT B AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. THE CASE WENT BEFORE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR A COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MARCH 20TH, 2025. THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED THAT THE VIOLATIONS THAT THE VIOLATIONS FOR JUNK, TRASH AND APPLIANCES WERE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD, AS WELL AS AN UNSCREENED GARAGE DOOR BE SECURED BY MIDNIGHT ON MARCH 23RD, THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED THAT THE CLOSING AND TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON MARCH 26TH, 2025. A COPY OF THE ORDER WAS INTRODUCED IN EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT C AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. ON MARCH 24TH, THE INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED AND THE JUNK AND TRASH AND APPLIANCES HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND PLACED ON[01:50:04]
A TRAILER IN THE FRONT YARD. OVERGROWTH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE FRONT WAS REMOVED. ALSO, A STRUCTURE WAS SECURED TO INCLUDE THE GARAGE DOORS AND OVERGROWTH IN THE FRONT AND SIDES WAS REMOVED. THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED THAT THE CLOSING OF THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON MARCH 26TH, 2025. HOWEVER, THAT DID NOT TAKE PLACE. I DID EMAIL THE POTENTIAL OWNER. HE DID RETURN A CALL STATING THAT IT DID NOT CLOSE YET AND HE WAS WAITING ON SOME MONEY. HE'S HERE TODAY. HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT PORTION OF IT. A COPY OF THE NOTICE OF HEARING IS POSTED TO BAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER ON MARCH 27TH. AS OF THIS DATE, NO. OF THE AS OF THIS DATE OF THE HEARING, NO ENGINEERING OR APPLICATION FOR PERMITS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU WILL NOT THIS TIME, JUST THE APRIL 7TH INSPECTION HERE. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S A BETTER PHOTO OF SHOWING THAT THE GARAGE AND THE TRAILER WAS REMOVED WITH THE APPLIANCES ON. IT WAS IN THE SECOND PHOTO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHO WANTS TO TALK TO ME? I DON'T MIND GOING FIRST. GET YOU OUT OF HERE. SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG.GUYS. I'M TRYING TO GET MOVED TO YOU. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAGISTRATE, I'M STEVE ZANDT. I LIVE AT 9500 INDIAN BLUFF ROAD, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT HOUSE. I AGREE WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT'S RECOMMENDATION. AS FAR AS THE DISPOSITION OF THE HOUSE. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT AUSTIN SAVAGE HAS DONE TO GET THIS PROPERTY READY. I'M I'M SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO THAT ARE PREVENTING THAT. IF THERE WAS SOME WAY TO PROVIDE SOME EVIDENCE THAT THAT IT WILL HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER, VERY SOON, THAT MY MIND COULD BE CHANGED. I I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE REASON THAT IT HASN'T HAPPENED IS BECAUSE THERE'S A CLERICAL ISSUE ON SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THAT DOCUMENT HERE OR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING HER WOULD PROVIDE IT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. I WENT TO THE PERMIT OFFICE. THERE WAS NO I'M SORRY, NOT THE PERMIT OFFICE. I WENT TO THE PROBATE OFFICE. THERE'S NO HISTORY OF THIS BEING IN PROBATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD IT WAS AT THE LAST HEARING. SO I BELIEVE THERE'S A LEGAL ISSUE GOING ON WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF THE INDIVIDUAL BEING DIVORCED, THE OWNER BEING DIVORCED, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE HUSBAND PASSING AWAY. THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT IT WILL DRAG ON. SO IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO WITH THE CODE INSPECTOR'S RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP, SIR, AND TELL ME WHAT WE GOT GOING ON. SO, OF COURSE, I DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE AND WENT OUT THERE AND GOT EVERYTHING CLEANED UP. LIKE I SAID, TRAILERS GONE. I DID SPEAK TO MY TEAM EARLIER. OH, I NEED TO STATE MY NAME AND. ALL RIGHT, AUSTIN SAVAGE, I LIVE AT 300 JOHNSON BAYOU DRIVE, PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA, 32407. DON'T WORRY, I WOULD HAVE ASKED YOU BEFORE YOU. I TOLD YOU IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY, SO. I DID RECEIVE A CALL FROM DARIUS. HE'S PART OF MY TEAM. REAL ESTATE TEAM. THEY'RE SELLING MY HOUSE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SELL IT. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE BITES ON IT. NOTHING. NOTHING REAL SERIOUS, I GUESS.
SO, ANYWAYS, THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A HOLD UP. MY K-1'S FINALLY CAME IN, THERE WAS AN EXTENSION FILED THERE. MY ACCOUNTANT FOR MY BUSINESS, MY BUSINESS LAST YEAR, AND I HAVE A SCHEDULED MEETING WITH MY BANKER. COME. I THINK IT'S TUESDAY OF THIS COMING WEEK. SO THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS I WAS TRYING TO GET DONE AND FINDING THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE. SO FILING FOR EITHER A CASH OUT REFINANCE, WHICH IS POSSIBLE, I HAVE AROUND 400 SOME ODD THOUSAND IN EQUITY IN MY HOME. SO THAT WAS ONE OPTION. I GOT THREE CONTRACTS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SIGNED, WHICH I COULD PAY THEM FOR THE AMOUNT THAT'S DUE. AND YEAH, JUST TRYING TO GET THOSE FUNDS BROUGHT UP. THERE WAS SOME FAMILY EMERGENCIES THAT I HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS MONTH THAT WAS KIND OF UNEXPECTED AND DON'T REALLY LIKE FALLING BELOW A CERTAIN LINE ON MY ACCOUNT. BUT ANYWAYS, DARIUS, MY REALTOR, HE HAD CALLED ME YESTERDAY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING FILING FOR AN EXTENSION FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO FILE THAT PAPERWORK AND GET THE FUNDS READY TO PURCHASE THAT HOME, BECAUSE MY HOME DIDN'T SELL AND THE CONTRACTS DIDN'T GO THROUGH.
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AND HE TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES ON HER END. YOU KNOW, I PUT THE $4,000 DOWN ALREADY SPENT ABOUT 3000 $504,000 WOULD BE IN TOTAL IF IT WASN'T FOR MY GUYS. WE CLEARED COUNTLESS TREES OFF THE PROPERTY, PILED THEM UP, GOT EVERYTHING KIND OF BOARDED UP, BUT ANYWAYS, HE SAID THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR DOING AN EXTENSION. I DID TALK TO MISS KELLY TODAY AND TEXTED HER SHE CAN'T BE HERE. FROM WHAT SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE IS. IN DC WITH HER SON'S BAND TRIP. OKAY THEN YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING WITH DARIUS, HE TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS SOME CLINICAL ERRORS, YOU KNOW, ON HER END ON, I GUESS, THE DEED OF THE HOUSE OR WHO THE HOUSE ACTUALLY BELONGS TO, WHICH IS KIND OF CONCERNING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPENT SOME MONEY INTO GETTING THE HOUSE, WHICH I KNEW THERE WAS A RISK. BUT SHE SAID THE DIVORCE PAPERS AND THIS IS JUST WHAT SHE TEXTED ME. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN LOG IT. IT'S HEARSAY, I GUESS, FROM TEXT MESSAGES. BUT SHE SAID DIVORCE PAPERS HAS ONE WORD INCORRECT.MY LAWYER HAS OPENED IT TO FIX IT, SAYS IT'S SUPER EASY FIX AND WILL GO DIRECTLY THROUGH. MY EX-HUSBAND DIED BEFORE HE COULD SIGN THE PROPERTY TO MY NAME ONLY, SO THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THE WORDING ABOUT SIGNING IT OVER. THAT'S IT. BECAUSE I ASKED HER, I SAID, QUICK QUESTION. WE WERE ABOUT TO START, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT MY AGENT OR WHATNOT, AND HIM TELLING ME WHAT WHAT SHE CAME UP WITH. SHE SAID, CAN YOU GIVE ME A BIT OF DETAIL? I ASKED HER IF SHE CAN GIVE ME A BIT OF DETAIL ABOUT WHAT IT WAS OVER. SO I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SIGNED. AND RIGHT NOW I'M AT A VERY LOW LOSS, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, 4000 IS 4000 WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT MONEY BACK. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO GET OUT OF MY HOUSE. I LOVE THE HOUSE. I DO WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. AND I GOT, YOU KNOW, MY COUPLE OPTIONS. SHE DID AGREE TO OWNER'S FINANCE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE 4000 WOULD BE APPLIED. I'M TRYING TO GET HER TO AGREE TO ANOTHER 35 TO 4000 ON PLAT. ON TOP OF THAT, TO WHERE ALL I HAVE TO DO IS PUT 8000 DOWN INSTEAD OF 16,000, AND THEN TAKE MONTHLY PAYMENTS OF 325. I'LL BE LIVING IN MY CURRENT HOME WHILE DOING THE RENOVATIONS TO THIS HOME. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE LAST TIME I HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT'S ON PAYROLL, WE'VE I'VE HAD COUNTLESS PEOPLE OUT THERE, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK I REALLY SUPPOSED TO, BUT THE ROOFING, WINDOWS, DOORS, PLUMBER, ELECTRICIAN, YOU KNOW, I DO SIDING FOR A LIVING AS WELL. SO I WAS GOING TO DO MOST, MOST OF THE SIDING. BUT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND TOTAL HAVING MY GUYS DRIVE ALL THE WAY OUT THERE HAS BEEN KIND OF KIND OF A LETDOWN. SO IT'S REALLY UP TO Y'ALL. AND I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERNS. SO I'M KIND OF Y'ALL'S MERCY. AND Y'ALL Y'ALL DECIDE WHATEVER Y'ALL NEED TO DO.
BECAUSE I MEAN, I'LL BE VERY HONEST. I WAS TRYING MY BEST SINCE MISS KELLY HAD SOMEONE ELSE THAT WAS COMING ON TO THE PROPERTY. AND THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THESE DEADLINES OF THINGS BEING DONE. YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS KIND OF THE PRECIPICE TO GET IT MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES FROM HER SIDE AS WELL, WITH REGARD TO WHAT REALLY COULD HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. YES. BEFORE NOW? YES, MA'AM. IS THAT GOING TO END UP CAUSING ANOTHER DELAY FOR YOU BECAUSE SHE HASN'T COMPLIED WITH YES, MA'AM, OR ABSOLUTELY. I'VE GOT A TELEPHONE RIGHT NEXT TO ME. SHE DIDN'T ASK TO BE CALLED WITH THE HEARING EITHER, TO GET SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON. UNDERSTOOD. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU SPEND ANY MORE MONEY OR TIME ON SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE. YES, MA'AM. WELL, PAYOFF BENEFIT FOR YOU. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALL THE CORRECT PAPERWORK READY TO GO.
RIGHT. AND IT WAS GETTING TO, YOU KNOW, THE 11TH, WHICH WAS THAT THAT'S WHAT THE YOU KNOW, MY, MY TEAM HAD TOLD ME, WHICH IS TOMORROW, WHICH I MEAN, CAN I PAY THE $16,000 A DAY.
ABSOLUTELY. BUT THEN AFTER HEARING FROM DARIUS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES AND THEY'RE GETTING IT WORKED OUT. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF I CAN GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TOMORROW AND HAVE EVERY BIT OF IT FILLED OUT FOR YOU, BUT IT'S JUST I WANT THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S GOT GREAT BONES. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S FALLING OVER OR ANYTHING. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND STOP ANY OF THAT FROM OCCURRING.
IF IT HAPPENS IN A TIMELY FASHION. BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DISASTER FOR YOU TO DEAL WITH, OR A DISASTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT TO HAVE TO KEEP LOOKING AT OR KEEP SEEING HAPPEN
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OVER AND OVER WITH. YES, MA'AM. CONTINUED EXTENSION AFTER EXTENSION AFTER EXTENSION. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS CASE FOR QUITE A WHILE. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF I GET WHERE HE'S COMING FROM. SO LIKE, NO HARD FEELINGS OR ANYTHING, I GET IT, I TOTALLY DO. I WISH I WAS FOUND THIS PLACE A LOT LONGER AGO, SO MAY I ASK US A FEW QUESTIONS? SURE.SCOTT, HAVE WE DONE AN ASBESTOS SURVEY ON THIS YET? WHEN WOULD WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED? APPROXIMATELY NEXT WEEK WOULD BE UPSETTING. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THIS HEARING. I HAVE TWO PRIORS. THIS WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE. THE OTHER TWO. SO THEY'LL GO OUT NEXT WEEK FOR BID OR PROPOSAL FOR SCHEDULING IT. YES. SO IT'S POSSIBLE IT'LL BE TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE DO THE ASBESTOS SURVEY. I PROBABLY CAN HAVE IT DONE BY NEXT WEEK. OKAY. IF THEY'RE I'M SURE THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE. OKAY. AND THEN AT THAT POINT USUALLY AVERAGE. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE ASBESTOS SURVEY BACK. SEVEN TO 5 TO 7 DAYS. AND OUR NEXT PRE BID IS APRIL 30TH. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT OKAY. SO I SHOULD GET EVERYTHING BACK BY THE PRE BID DATE. JUST A THOUGHT OR RECOMMENDATION. UPDATED. WE WON'T BE PROCEEDING. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO DO THE ASBESTOS SURVEY. BUT DEMOLITION WOULD NOT OCCUR UNTIL PROBABLY THE AT THE EARLIEST SECOND WEEK OF MAY.
POSSIBLE THAT WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PROCEED. AND IN THE LIGHT IF IT'S CLOSES BEFORE THAT AND HE'S ABLE TO GET THE PERMITS. I THINK THAT'S OUTSTANDING. I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT IF WE GAVE YOU EXTRA TIME BUT DIDN'T SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND I WILL SAY THAT HE HAS DONE A LOT, AND I FEEL BAD TO BE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST HIM.
YOU KNOW? DON'T FEEL BAD, MAN. HEY, IF I LIVED ACROSS TWO MAN, I'D BE UP HERE RAISING CAIN AS WELL. I GUESS MY BOTTOM LINE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WOULDN'T BE HOLDING ANYTHING UP, BUT IT WOULD STILL. REALITY. STOP THE DEMOLITION. BUT UNDERSTANDING. IF WE DO THE ASBESTOS SURVEY, YOU WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT. EVEN IF WE DIDN'T. HOW MUCH? THE 800. 800. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE NORMALLY 12 TO $2000. BUT SINCE WE DO THEM I TRY TO DO THEM IN GROUPS. YEAH.
GIVE US A BETTER DISCOUNT. I CAN RUN EIGHT. I'LL TAKE I'LL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE 800. AND HOPEFULLY IF IT'S WORKED OUT AND I JUST FEEL THAT YOU HAVE PUT A LOT OF YOUR OWN TIME AND EFFORT AND THIS IS NOT EVEN YOUR PROPERTY. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS DO AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING, DON'T IT? HEY. LIKEWISE. I'M I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. IT'S HELL RUNNING A BUSINESS. AND, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. AND ANYWAYS I, YOU KNOW. YEAH, IT IS WHAT IT IS. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT IN MIND IS CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. YES. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE MAGISTRATE FIND THAT THE RESPONDENT WAS GIVEN ADEQUATE TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION. AND THE RESPONDENT DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE ORDER. I'D LIKE TO STRIKE NUMBER TWO. AND RE RE ADDRESS THAT AT A FINAL HEARING.
THREE THAT THE MAGISTRATE AUTHORIZES CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND ANY CONTRACTOR HIRED BY THE COUNTY TO ENTER ONTO THE ANY AREA OF THE PROPERTY AND ABATE THE VIOLATION IDENTIFIED IN THIS ORDER, AND THAT UPON RECORDING OF THE ORDER AND PUBLIC RECORDS OF BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE COST LEVIED AGAINST THE RESPONDENT SHALL CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE LAND ON WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTED AGAINST ANY REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAY ASSESS THE COST OF ABATING THE VIOLATION AGAINST THE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO THE UNIFORM ASSESSMENT COLLECTION ACT AND CHAPTER 21 OF THE COUNTY CODE, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE RECOMMENDATION. OKAY, AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ACCEPT CODE ENFORCEMENT RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITION OF THE FACT THAT DEMOLITION DOES NOT OCCUR BEFORE MAY 1ST, AND THAT IF THE CURRENT INDIVIDUAL, MR. SAVAGE, PURCHASES AND CLOSES ON THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO DEMOLITION ON MAY THE 1ST OR AFTER, THEN THE DEMOLITION STOPS AT THAT POINT, WHICH I THINK IS EXACTLY WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, PRETTY MUCH JUST IN THE YEAH, IF WE DID THE BIDS ON THE 30TH, THEY HAVE FIVE DAYS TO COME BACK. IT'S FIVE SIX. SO SIX WE WILL GET
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THEM BACK, WE WILL ASSESS AND WE WON'T START UNTIL. BEFORE THE END OF MAY. SO MAY 1ST. YEAH. SO MAY 1ST AT LEAST LET LIGHTS A LITTLE FIRE UNDER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, ALL THIS BENEFITS ME IN A WAY. YOU KNOW IT'S SOMETHING I CAN GO BACK TO HER AND BE LIKE, HEY, JUST SIGN THE PAPERS OR WHATNOT. I'LL SIGN A CONTRACT WITH YOU, AND I CAN START WORK AND GET PERMITS STARTED MOVING.AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANY MONEY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW? SO. BUT MAY, MAY 14TH, YOU SAID PRETTY MUCH THAT THAT WOULD BE DEMOLITION DAY. THAT WOULD THEY COULD START ON THEM.
SO LET'S JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT RATE, LET'S SAY A ONE WINS IT ON THE 14TH. WE TELL THEM YOU CAN PROCEED. YEAH. ON THAT DAY THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE DEP ANOTHER TEN DAYS WINDOW BECAUSE WE DID A SURVEY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT AROUND THE 24TH OF MAY BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY DEMO. BUT LEAVE IT AT THE 14TH. IS YOUR DEADLINE OKAY. DEADLINE 14TH. WE'VE GOT A LITTLE THEY CAN START PROCEDURES. THEY CAN START BRINGING MOVING EQUIPMENT IN THERE AND GET IT UNDERSTOOD.
AND THEN. SO SAY SAY I DO GET EVERYTHING HANDLED AND TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THE 14TH. AND I CAN COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT WHERE HER AND THEN WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD OR WHATNOT. WHAT'S MY TIMELINE LOOKING LIKE TO HAVE PERMITTING AND EVERYTHING ENGINEERING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE ME. WE'VE GOT IT SET FOR A COMPLIANCE HEARING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS THE COMPLIANCE HEARING. BUT. THE. THERE'S YOUR NEXT COMPLIANCE. MAY 14TH I THINK MAY 15TH 15TH.
I THINK WE COULD COME BACK ON THE DO AN UPDATE. DO AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON 13TH AT 1:00. THEY CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE'LL KNOW.
HAVE YOU CLOSED AND PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AS SOMEBODY ELSE GOING TO DEMOLISH IT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY? WHAT'S GOING ON? BUT EITHER WAY, THAT WAY IT KEEPS THINGS MOVING FORWARD.
YES, MA'AM. NOW, IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO GET OWNERSHIP BY THE 14TH, THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT HEARING AND WE WOULD PROCEED. YOU CAN PROCEED. OKAY. NOW, WHO DO I GET IN TOUCH WITH? WITH PAYING THE $800, THAT'D BE. WELL, WE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE TO. WE MAY NOT. YEAH. JUST WAIT TO CLOSE NEXT WEEK. WELL, NO, I'D MUCH RATHER GO AHEAD AND PAY THE $800 ON THE ASBESTOS. WELL, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T UNTIL WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY THAT BILL BEFORE I GOT YOU.
IT TAKES IT TAKES A HOT SECOND TO DO ALL THAT. I GOT YOU INVOICES AND PAYMENTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF PARTIES. JUST JUST JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. OKAY. SO BECAUSE I'M NOT FOLLOWING, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS AN ASBESTOS AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT WITH A BASICALLY A GROUP. AND THAT'S HOW YOU WERE GETTING IT AT THE 800. THAT WON'T OCCUR UNTIL NEXT WEEK. NOW THAT WE HAVE THE ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD. CORRECT. BECAUSE DEMOLISH UTILIZING UTILIZING THAT TEST AS WELL, FINDING OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WOULD ALSO DEEM LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, MORE AMMO IN MY BACK POCKET TO GO TO KELLY AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHEN THAT WOULD COME ABOUT. AND I TOLD Y'ALL I WOULD, I WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 800 TO GET THAT TEST DONE BEFORE THEN. THE ASBESTOS SURVEY IS DONE BEFORE THEM, OBVIOUSLY. SO THAT WOULD BE SOME TIME THIS MONTH, YOU THINK BEFORE MAY 1ST? I'LL PROBABLY BY WHAT'S TOMORROW, THE 11TH? I'M THINKING AROUND THE 20TH. I MAY HAVE IT BACK IN MY HAND AND THE, THE, THE COMPANIES WE USE 99% OF TIME. WHEN WE GO IN THERE, THEY'LL SAY THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE, OR THEY'LL SAY THAT IT'S SUSPECT OR 100%. I MEAN, I CAN USUALLY PICK IT OUT TOO. SO YEAH, MY GC SAID THAT HE DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE. THE POPCORN. YEAH. POPCORN CEILINGS.
TILE, CONCRETE. YEAH. SO THAT'S ONE STEP WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE WE CAN DEMOLISH. OKAY. SO NOT TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS. YEAH, IT DOESN'T WORK OUT. OH, YEAH. NO, I'M STILL MOVING FORWARD. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE WHO I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE $800. IT WOULD BE OUR DEPARTMENT. Y'ALL'S DEPARTMENT. OKAY, WELL, I'LL BE IN SCOTT, RIGHT? YEAH. WAIT UNTIL YOU GET THE PROPERTY IN YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU DO THAT. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S MORE NEGOTIATING TACTICS THAN ANYTHING, I GUESS. WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY TO SAY, HEY, YOU GOT ASBESTOS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF I WALK AWAY FROM THIS AND Y'ALL COME IN, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO WIND UP BEING A LOT MORE FOR IT. EXACTLY. SO IT'S AND GET THE PRICE DOWN. I CAN DO QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IF THERE'S FRIABLE IN THERE THEY'LL HAVE TO REMOVE IT. AND THAT COST GOES UP. AND IF THERE'S TOO MUCH, A THIRD PARTY COMPANY HAS TO COME IN AND REMOVE IT PRIOR TO THE CONTRACTOR STARTING THE WORK. YEAH. SO THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED. OH YEAH. JUST LET'S DO A TEST
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AND SEE WHERE IT, WHERE YOU'RE AT. YEAH. OKAY. INSPECTOR THORPE UPDATE. HE'S HE COORDINATES THE ABATEMENT. HE COORDINATES THE DEMOLITION. SO IT'S KIND OF IN HIS HANDS NOW. YES. YEAH. NO, I, I EMAILED HIM PICTURES AND BEEN TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH OF AN UPDATE. YOU KNOW, GENTLEMAN BACK HERE, HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. SO PERFECT. ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OUR COMPLAINANTS AND OUR RESPONDENTS DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER. AIN'T NO REASON TO GET ALL BENT OUT HIS PROPERTY.THAT'S TRUE. BUT IT'S HIS PROPERTY. I'LL START COMING DOWN. I'M JUST. I HOPE IT WORKS OUT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. THAT WILL CONCLUDE TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20241067.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 9407 INDIAN BLUFF ROAD. ALL RIGHT. MOVING BACK ON TO LETTER A ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20230305 PROPERTY ADDRESSES 19916 HIGHWAY TWO 31 2016 I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO BE FINE. ALL RIGHT. THIS FIRST SLIDE OR SLIDE NUMBER TWO IS AN AERIAL TAKEN ON FEBRUARY OR DECEMBER OF 2023. IT'S JUST FOR LOCATION PURPOSES. IT IS. WE HAVE HIGHWAY 231 HERE ON THE LEFT. THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE BLUE. IT IS PARTIALLY IN A IN THE A FLOOD ZONE. DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE STRUCTURE IS. A FLOOD ZONE. AND ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2023 AND INVESTIGATOR RAYMOND SCOTT OBSERVED THIS PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY COMMONLY KNOWN AS FOUNTAIN. SCOTT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAGISTRATE. AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 17TH, I DID OBSERVE THIS PROPERTY WHILE PATROLLING THE UNINCORPORATED UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF BAY COUNTY KNOWN AS FOUNTAIN. I INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND FOUND IT TO BE IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE 17 TWO, IN THE FORM OF UNSAFE STRUCTURES AND OVERGROWTH. NOVEMBER THE 17TH, I SENT OUT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION CERTIFIED AND REGULAR MAIL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, MISS RUBY SAUNDERS, USING THE ADDRESS OF 19916 HIGHWAY 231 CERTIFIED MAIL WAS RETURNED ON DECEMBER THE 22ND STATING VACANT, UNABLE TO DELIVER IN THE REGULAR MAIL HAS NOT RETURNED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PRETTY MUCH NOTHING IS GOING TO HAVE CHANGED EXCEPT A LITTLE BIT OF THE OVERGROWTH WAS TAKEN CARE OF BETWEEN NOVEMBER THE 17TH, 2023 AND THIS HEARING DATE, AND IT JUST PRETTY MUCH REMAINED IN THE SAME CONDITION. ON MARCH THE 4TH, 2025, I SENT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. NOTICE OF HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED IN REGULAR MAIL AGAIN TO MISS SAUNDERS. AT THAT ADDRESS, THE CERTIFIED MAIL AND REGULAR MAIL NOTICES WERE RETURNED UNCLAIMED AND NO FORWARDING ADDRESS. ON MARCH THE 20TH, A COPY OF THE NOTICE OF HEARING WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. AS WE GO THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE DEBRIS AND SUCH AS THAT THAT'S IN THE BACK. THE BACK. I CAN NEVER SEE WHETHER IT HAD BEEN CLEARED OR NOT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE STORAGE SHED IS FULL OF JUNK AND TRASH. AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST DECIDING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID A BUILDING INSPECTION ON IT OR NOT, BUT. AGAIN, AS WE GO, SAME CONDITION. NOTHING'S CHANGED. MAY 23RD. ANOTHER INSPECTION. YOU CAN SEE IT EVEN GOT HIGHER.
BUT AS WE GO ALONG, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE OVERGROWTH HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF SOMEWHAT. IT GROWS FAST OVER IN THAT AREA ON AGAIN MARCH THE 20TH, I POSTED THE PROPERTY. MARCH 27TH. A COPY OF THE HEARING WAS POSTED AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. CHECK OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SHOWS THAT THE PROPERTY HAS NOT CHANGED HANDS, AND THE TAXES ARE CURRENT, AND I INSPECTED THE PROPERTY ON APRIL THE 7TH AND IT REMAINED IN VIOLATION. THERE'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR ANY BODY ELSE THAT HAS ANY TYPE OF. SAYING WITH IT OF THIS HEARING DATE, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED AND THIS CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY THE 15TH, 2025 AT 1:00 PM. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TIME? JUST OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION? WHILE
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THERE IS NO ONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, PROPER NOTICE OF TODAY'S HEARING WAS PROVIDED. IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD. CODE ENFORCEMENT, GIVE ME YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROPERTY, PLEASE. IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDRESS 19916 HIGHWAY 231 FOUNTAIN, FLORIDA, IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17 OF BAY COUNTY CODE PROPER NOTICE OF HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT THAT A VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO EXISTS IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE AND OVERGROWTH, BUT THE MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME OF 30 DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY REMOVING ANY AND ALL OVERGROWTH.ADDRESS THE UNFIT, UNSAFE, UNFIT STRUCTURE AS FOLLOWS. AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE STRUCTURES, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND I GUESS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. YES. APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN THE DEMOLITION PERMITS TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT UNSAFE STRUCTURES AND ANY PROHIBITED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OR REPAIR THE UNFIT UNSAFE STRUCTURES AS FOLLOWS. SUBMIT A COMPLETE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE FULL STRUCTURAL REPORT AND COMPLETE SET OF STRUCTURAL REPAIR DRAWINGS FROM FLORIDA. LICENSE AND REGISTERED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. SUBMIT A DETAILED ACTION PLAN INCLUDING TIME FRAMES OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS FOR THE STRUCTURE. ALSO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT ALL REQUIRED PERMITS. ENGINEERING PLANS MUST PASS THE PLANS REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED. ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY BAY COUNTY BUILDER SERVICES DIVISION OR DESIGNEE. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND STRUCTURAL REPORT. ALL BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED AND ALL PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE. IF AT ANY TIME THE REQUIRED PERMIT SOME OF THIS ORDER EXPIRED SHALL BE CONSIDERED. A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESPONDENT TO CONTACT AND INFORM CODE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. BUT IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE CODES, ORDINANCE AND REGULATIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, THE RESPONDENT SHALL BE FINED $1,000. SUCH FINE SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA AND THIS AGAIN IS SCHEDULED FOR A COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH OF THIS YEAR AT 1:00. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO KNOW FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY? NO. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT. CASE 20230305.
PROPERTY ADDRESS 19916. HIGHWAY 231. MOVING ON TO LETTER B, WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 2024259 FOR PROPERTY ADDRESSES 12705 CLEAR CREEK ROAD, OKAY. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED AREA BAY COUNTY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS FOUNTAIN. WE HAVE HIGHWAY 2301 HERE TO THE LEFT. THAT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO HIGHWAY 388. YES, MA'AM. IT'S JUST SOUTH OF 388. AND THIS IS THE CLOSER UP AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE STRUCTURES HIGHLIGHTED OR CIRCLED IN BLUE AND YELLOW. YOU SEE A SLIDE NUMBER THREE. AND ON AUGUST 20TH, 2024, AND INVESTIGATOR RAY SCOTT OBSERVED THIS PROPERTY AND HE IS HERE TO TESTIFY. I WENT A LITTLE FAST LAST TIME, BUT THIS TIME I HAVE SUBMITTED MY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS, MY EXHIBITS AND NOTICES. FOR THE RECORD, ON MARCH THE 20TH, 2024, I DID OBSERVE THIS PROPERTY WHILE PATROLLING THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY KNOWN AS FOUNTAIN. ON SEPTEMBER THE 5TH OF 2024, MYSELF AND INSPECTOR THORPE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND FOUND IT TO BE IN VIOLATION OF MULTIPLE UNSAFE STRUCTURES MOBILE HOME JUNK TRASH, DERELICT VEHICLES. DERELICT WATERCRAFT. AGAIN. PROPERTY. I'M SORRY. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PHEROPERTY AE INTRODUCED IN EVIDENCE EXHIBIT A AND. INSPECTOR THORPE WOULD LIKE TO. YOU WANT TO SHARE YOUR PHOTOS FIRST? I'M SORRY. IT'S A SINGLE WIDE MOBILE HOME. YOU CAN SEE THE ROOF IS NOT IN REAL GOOD SHAPE. YOU'VE GOT SOME JUNK AND TRASH SCATTERED ALL OVER THE AREA. TO THE LEFT YOU SEE A DERELICT WATERCRAFT. IN THE BACK THERE'S A SHED, A COUPLE OF SHEDS. AGAIN, JUST JUNK AND
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TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND THIS WOULD BE THE BUILDING INSPECTION. AFTERNOON, INSPECTOR THORPE AGAIN. I WAS ABLE TO INSPECT THIS AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION. I DID MEET WITH MR. MILLER, THE PROPERTY OWNER. HE WAS CORDIAL ENOUGH TO WALK US THROUGH AND EXPLAIN EVERYTHING.WHAT HAPPENED? CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE FROM 2018, HURRICANE MICHAEL. OBVIOUSLY HE'S GOT CORRUGATED METAL ROLL ROOFING. AS YOU SEE. WE WALK THROUGH THE INSIDE. WE'VE TRIED A FEW DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TRYING TO GET HIM REHOMED OR BECAUSE HE'S HE'S DISABLED. SO A LOT OF IT FAILED OR HE DID NOT FOLLOW THROUGH AND GO TO THESE PLACES OR APPOINTMENTS. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, LIKE I SAID, ROLLED ROOFING ON THE ROOF. THERE'S NO TRUSSES UP THERE. IT'S JUST KIND OF STRETCHED OVER THE EXISTING TRUSSES THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT AND LEFT OF THE DOOR. CORRUGATED METAL, WOOD ROLL ROOFING OVER IT AGAIN. AS WE WALK AROUND THE BACK. THAT STRUCTURE HE'S BUILDING OVER TO THE RIGHT, HE UNDERSTANDS THE MOBILE HOME IS PRETTY MUCH A TOTAL LOSS. AND HE WAS GOING TO BUILD A LITTLE SHED TO LIVE IN, HE STATED ON A AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION. CLOSER LOOK AT THE ROOF WHERE IT IS COLLAPSED FROM THE REAR YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT SEVERAL HOLES IN THE EXTERIOR WALL. IN THE BACK HE'S GOT FIBERGLASS PLEXIGLAS FOR LITTLE WINDOW. ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS COMING OUT OF THE BEDROOM OR THE BATHROOM VENTS. HE'S GOT THAT RUNNING OUT TO ANOTHER SHED WITH WASHER AND DRYER AND FREEZER AND SOME OTHER STUFF IN THERE. SEPARATION OF THE ROOF LINE AT THE GABLE END. AS WE WALK IN WITH MR. MILLER, HE WALKED THROUGH, WALKED US THROUGH SEVERAL BROKEN TRUSSES, UNSTABLE FLOOR DAMAGE TO THE WALLS ON THE INSIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS WHERE THE ROLL ROOFING STRETCHED OVER WHERE ALL THE TRUSSES. HE'S GOT A 4X4 AND A TWO BY FOUR HOLDING THE ROOF UP ESSENTIALLY. SO PRETTY BAD CONDITION INSIDE RIGHT HERE.
YES, MA'AM. THAT'S A TWO BY FOUR. AND TO THE LEFT IS THE 4X4 TO THE LEFT OF THE MICROWAVE.
AND THERE'S A CLOSER VIEW OF THAT. HE'S GOT FLOORING MATERIAL NAILED TO THE HOLES IN THE ROOF.
SO THERE WAS A ANOTHER DAMAGED SHED IN THE BACK ACCESSORY. AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY HE'S BUILDING WITHOUT PERMITS TO ATTEMPT TO LIVE IN. SO AS IT SITS ALL UNFIT, UNSAFE. AND THERE'S A LITTLE WHITE ONE BACK THERE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PLASTIC RUBBERMAID ONE, WHICH IS PROBABLY LIKE AN EIGHT BY EIGHT OR SO. AND JUST DOCUMENTED ALL THE LOOSE MATERIAL THAT WE'RE ON. THAT'S ON THE GROUND RV, SEVERAL VEHICLES IN THE REAR, LAWN MOWERS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF, MOTORCYCLE PARTS AND MOTORCYCLE FRAMES EVERYWHERE. OKAY. AS IT SITS, DEFINITELY UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURES AND ANOTHER VEHICLE STUCK IN THE WOOD LINE. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S INSPECTOR THORPE SAID. WE ACTUALLY PLEADED WITH MR. MILLER TO TRY TO GET HIM TO LEAVE OUT OF THAT PLACE AND GO TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, JUST NOT TO BE IN THAT PLACE. SO LET'S SEE. SEPTEMBER THE 9TH OF 2024, I SENT OUT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO MR. MILLER AT 12705 CLEAR CREEK ROAD. THE NOTICE WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED WITH NO FORWARDING ADDRESS, AND THE REGULAR MAIL DID NOT RETURN. BETWEEN AUGUST THE 20TH OF 2024 AND THIS HEARING DATE, INSPECTIONS WERE COMPLETED AND THE PROPERTY REMAINED IN VIOLATION. AS YOU CAN STILL SEE THE DERELICT VEHICLES AND JUNK AND TRASH AND WATERCRAFT STILL ON THE PROPERTY. ON MARCH THE 4TH, 2025, A NOTICE OF VIOLATION NOTICE OF HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED REGULAR MAIL AGAIN TO MR. MILLER AT 12705 CLEAR CREEK ROAD. THE REGULAR MAIL HAS NOT RETURNED AND THE CERTIFIED MAIL WAS RETURNED AS UNCLAIMED, UNABLE TO FORWARD. ON MARCH THE 20TH OF 2025, NOTICE OF HEARING WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S STILL REMNANTS OF JUNK AND TRASH ON THE FRONT PORCH. IT WAS THE POSTING MARCH 27TH. THE COPY OF THE HEARING WAS POSTED AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER ON THE WELL. AGAIN, YOU CAN STILL SEE THE DERELICT VEHICLES. THE. STRUCTURE TO THE BEHIND THE DERELICT VEHICLE AND THE WATERCRAFT. THE 7TH OF APRIL, THE CHECK OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. IT HAD NOT CHANGED HANDS AND THE TAXES WERE PAID. ON APRIL 7TH I INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND REMAINED IN VIOLATION. I'VE HAD NO MORE COMMUNICATION WITH MR. MILLER SINCE OUR FIRST VISIT. AS OF THIS HEARING DATE, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED AND THIS CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY THE 15TH OF 2025 AT 1:00 PM. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY TESTIMONY. IS THERE ANYONE
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ELSE PRESENT TO SPEAK TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION? WHILE NO ONE IS PRESENT, SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. PROPER NOTICE OF THIS HEARING WAS PROVIDED. THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES ON THIS PROPERTY. YES IT IS. IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDRESS 12705 CLEAR CREEK ROAD IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF A COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17, TWO BAY COUNTY CODE. THE PROPER NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT THAT A VIOLATION OF THE COUNTY CODE EXISTS IN THE FORM OF UNFIT, SAFE, MOBILE, HOME AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, JUNK, TRASH AND DERELICT VEHICLE AND WATERCRAFT THAT THE MAGISTRATE SAID A REASONABLE TIME OF 30 DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY REMOVING ANY AND ALL TRASH AND JUNK. ONE DERELICT VEHICLE MAY REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY ONLY IF ONE REPAIRED STRUCTURALLY SOUND PRIMARY STRUCTURE REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY. IF NO PRIMARY STRUCTURE REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY, ALL VEHICLES, BOTH DERELICT AND OPERATIONAL, MUST BE STORED IN THE CLOSED STRUCTURE OR REMOVED. ADDRESS THE UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE FOR THE MOBILE HOME AS FOLLOWS AND THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. APPLY FOR THE, APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE MOBILE HOME AND THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, AND REMOVE ALL DEBRIS FROM THE PROPERTY OR REPAIR THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AS FOLLOWS. SUBMIT A COMPLETE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION TO BAY COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURERS SPECIFICATION FOR THE SPECIFIC MODEL OF THE MOBILE. MOBILE HOME TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION OR ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS TO SHOW THAT THE THERE IS A DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL HOME REPAIR OR REMODELING THE MOBILE HOME.MANUFACTURING MOBILE HOME SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIAL AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION STRUCTURE SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE ROOF SYSTEM, WALLS, FLOOR SYSTEM, WINDOWS, EXTERIOR DOORS, ELECTRICAL REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. PLUMBING REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE BY THE DESIGNATED A DESIGNATED PERSON, AS DEFINED IN FLORIDA STATUTE 320 .8245, SUBSECTION FOUR. SUBMIT A DETAILED ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING TIME FRAMES, OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, ALL REQUIRED PERMITS, AND ALL MANUFACTURE SPECIFICATIONS, ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS MUST PASS THE PLANS REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE THE PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED. ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE BAY COUNTY BUILDER SERVICES DIVISION STAFF OR DESIGNEE.
REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND STRUCTURAL REPORTS. ALL BUILDING PERMITS INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETE AND ALL PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE. IF AT ANY TIME THE REQUIRED PERMITS UNDER THIS ORDER EXPIRE, THIS SHALL BE CONSIDERED A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER. OR THE REPAIR OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL NEED TO SUBMIT A COMPLETE SET OF PLANS FROM A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DESIGNATED REPAIRS OR OBTAIN PERMITS LEFT THAT PART OUT FOR THE.
RECOMMENDATIONS. FINALLY, THAT IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE ABOVE ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, A FINE OF $1,000 SHALL BE IMPOSED.
SUCH FINE SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, NONCOMPLIANCE SHALL ALSO BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED IF THE RESPONDENT OBTAINS A DEMOLITION OR BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET ABOVE, AND THEN ALLOWS THE PERMIT TO EXPIRE TO BE CANCELED OR REVOKED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY, OR BECOMES VOID FOR ANY REASON. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR TESTIMONY OR RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPERTY. THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S HEARING ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 2024259 FOR PROPERTY ADDRESSES 12705 CLEAR CREEK ROAD. MOVING ON. WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE 20250596 PROPERTY VERSUS 1940 SHERMAN AVENUE. UNIT 103. ALL RIGHT.
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SLIDE NUMBER TWO IS AN AERIAL FROM FEBRUARY 2025 TO SHOWING LOCATION. IT IS LOCATED IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS CEDAR GROVE. WE HAVE THE BAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS IN THE BOTTOM THERE, AND THAT'S US 98 AND MOBILE HOME PARK IS OUTLINED IN BLUE. THIS PARTICULAR MOBILE HOME IS LOCATED IN A FLOOD ZONE, AND YOU SEE A NUMBER, SLIDE NUMBER THREE AND HIS CIRCLED IN RED. THE ONE WE WILL BE ADDRESSING IS BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOUND THIS PROPERTY IN VIOLATION ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. THE FOLLOWING ARE A LIST OF THREE SEPARATE THE LAST THREE CASES PRESENTED TO THE MAGISTRATE. THERE WERE MANY MORE THAN THAT, BUT THEY JUST JUST LIST THEM. COPIES OF THE ORDERS ARE INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE AS EXHIBIT A, AND MARCH 11TH, WHILE COMPLETING A CLEANUP ON THIS LOT UNDER CASE NUMBER C 2023 0471, INSPECTOR THORPE CONDUCTED A INSPECTION AND FOUND IT IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE 1702 AND FORM OF UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. AND HE IS HERE TO TESTIFY. YOU HAVE NEW INSPECTOR THORPE. I WAS ABLE TO INSPECT THIS DURING THE CLEANUP.THE FRONT DOOR HAD BEEN KICKED IN. IT WAS TRANSIENTS THERE. WE HAD SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT COME WITH US AND KIND OF ASK THEM TO KINDLY LEAVE. AS WE WALK THROUGH THE STRUCTURE. IT'S A DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME. IT SITS THIS MOBILE HOME PARK. DAMAGE TO THE GABLE END ON THE EAST SIDE. THE WALL SHEETING IS DOESN'T HAVE ANY WEATHER WRAP AND IT'S LEAKING. AND YOU YOU'LL SEE LATER ON IT'S LEAKING INTO THE INTERIOR. THERE WAS VINYL SIDING PUT OVER THE ORIGINAL T 111, WHICH IS HEAVILY ROTTED. YOU CAN ESPECIALLY SEE THAT AROUND THAT BIG BAY WINDOW THERE. THE BOTTOM OF THE WINDOW IS ALL COLLAPSED IN, ALONG WITH THE BROKEN OUT MISSING WINDOW IN THE BACK, WHICH IS THE BATHROOM WINDOW, I BELIEVE. THERE'S A CLOSER VIEW. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WALLS FALLING IN AND THE WINDOWS COLLAPSING UNDERNEATH. ROTTING AT THE TOP. INSUFFICIENT DRIP RAIL ACROSS THE TOP, SHEDDING THE WATER FROM THE BAY WINDOW. DISLODGED ELECTRICAL BOXES ON BOTH SIDES. IT DID HAVE POWER APPLIED TO IT, SO THERE'S EXPOSED WIRES IN THERE. THERE.
HIGH ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN REACH THEM. HOLES IN THE SIDE WHERE THE DRYER VENT WAS AND ROTTING UNDERNEATH. THERE YOU CAN SEE THE UNDERLAYMENT AND ALL THE INSULATION, AND PART OF THE FLOOR IS COLLAPSED DOWN JUST BELOW THAT HOLE. SOME MORE DAMAGE ON THE OTHER GABLE END, SOME LIFTING OF THE EDGE EDGING OF THE ROOF AS WE WENT INSIDE.
IT'S JUST BEEN PILFERED, STREWN AND TRASHED OUT BY TRANSIENTS. MOST OF THE DOORS BROKEN OFF, KICKED IN. NOTHING OF VALUE LEFT INSIDE THERE. HVAC HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT, MOST OF THE WIRING AND THE BOX HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE THE UTILITY BOX ON THE LEFT. THERE IS PARTIALLY MISSING. HVAC HAS BEEN RIPPED APART. ALL THE GOOD STUFF'S BEEN REMOVED. WATER DAMAGE. AND TO THE RIGHT THERE WHERE THOSE WINDOWS BOARDED UP. THAT'S WHAT THE EAST SIDE GABLE END ON SLIDE 20. THERE'S WATER DAMAGE AND MORE ADDITIONAL HOLES IN THE WALL. MISSING WALL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BEDROOM. TRASH AND JUNK EVERYWHERE. JUST SHOWING. IT'S BEEN LIVED IN BY TRANSIENTS. IT'S BEEN REMOVED. AND THE BATHROOM. AND IT WAS POSTED ON UNSAFE THAT DAY.
UNFIT. UNSAFE AS IT SITS. TONY BURNING BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT ON ON THE SAME DAY, MARCH 11TH, 2025, A NOTICE OF VIOLATION NOTICE HEARING WAS SENT CERTIFIED IN REGULAR MAIL TO THE OWNER OF RECORD AT P.O. BOX 270, YOUNGSTOWN, FLORIDA 32466. THE NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO THE RESPONDENT ON MARCH 17TH, 2025. CHECK IT. BAY COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR SHOWS TAXES ARE PAID IN FULL ON MARCH 27TH, 2025. THE PROPERTY WAS POSTED AS WELL AS AT THE BAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THE OUTSIDE IS A LITTLE CLEANER. NOW, THAT WAS THIS. THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN AFTER WE CLEANED THE
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PROPERTY THE PREVIOUS. APRIL 7TH, 2025. WE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND IT REMAINS A DOOR STILL STANDING WIDE OPEN. NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED. THERE ARE NO ENCUMBRANCES TO NOTIFY. I'VE HAD NO COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESPONDENT TO DATE, AND THIS CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLIANCE HEARING ON MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. REPEAT VIOLATOR. AT THIS TIME.THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. WHILE THERE IS NO ONE PRESENT TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, PROPER NOTICE OF TODAY'S HEARING WAS PROVIDED. IF CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD PLEASE GIVE ME THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDRESS 1940 SHERMAN AVENUE UNIT 103 IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY AND SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 17 OF BAY COUNTY CODE. THAT PROPER NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT THAT A VIOLATION BE COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO EXISTS IN THE FORM OF UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME, BUT THE MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME OF 30 DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY ADDRESSING THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME, AS FOLLOWS. APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AND ANY, ANY AND ALL PROHIBITED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS DEFINED BY THE VACANT AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND REMOVE ALL DEBRIS FROM THE PROPERTY OR REPAIR THE UNFIT, UNSAFE MOBILE HOME AS FOLLOWS. YOU MAY NEED TO OBTAIN A SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE REPORT TO SUBMIT A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION. THE BAY COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURERS SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC MOBILE HOME CODE, ENFORCEMENT OR ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL HOM. REPAIR OR REMODEL. THE MOBILE HOME SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIAL AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION STRUCTURE SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ROOF SYSTEM, WALLS, FLOOR SYSTEM, WINDOW AND EXTERIOR DOORS OF THE MOBILE HOME, ELECTRIC REPAIR, FLEXIBLE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. PLUMBING REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT SHALL REQUIRE THE USE OF THE MATERIAL DESIGNATED EQUIVALENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE BY A DESIGNATED PERSON AS DEFINED IN FLORIDA STATUTE IS 320 .8245. SUBSECTION FOUR FIVE. SUBMIT A DETAILED ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING TIME FRAMES, OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO THE STRUCTURE FOR THE STRUCTURE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. SIX ALL REQUIRED PERMITS AND ALL MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATIONS, ENGINEERING PLANS OR BLUEPRINTS MUST PASS THE PLANS REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE PERMITS ARE ISSUED. SEVEN ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR DESIGNEE. REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND STRUCTURAL REPORTS. ALL BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTIONS MUST BE COMPLETED, AND ALL PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE AT ANY TIME. REQUIRED PERMITS UNDER THIS ORDER EXPIRE. THIS SHALL CONSTITUTE A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER. IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESPONDENT TO CONTACT, INFORM CODE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
THEN, IF THE RESPONDENT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE ABOVE ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, A FINE OF $1,000 SHALL BE IMPOSED. SUCH FINE SHALL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, NONCOMPLIANCE SHALL ALSO BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED IF THE RESPONDENT OBTAINS A DEMOLITION OR BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET ABOVE, AND ALLOWS THE PERMIT TO EXPIRE, TO BE CANCELED OR REVOKED, OR BECOME VOID FOR ANY REASON. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU SIR. ANY AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT. IS THERE ANY DETERMINATION MADE AS TO REPEAT VIOLATIONS OR ANYTHING FOUND ON THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION? SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. WE NEED TO MAKE ANY SORT OF DETERMINATION FOR REPEAT VIOLATION ISSUES. YES. SORRY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF I WAS MISSING SOMETHING. YOU'RE RIGHT. UNDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU DO FIND THAT THIS IS A REPEAT VIOLATION. SORRY. THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? NO, OTHER THAN WE HAVE THE COMPLIANCE HEARING MAY 15TH. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT TO GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH THE ADDITION OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A
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DETERMINATION THAT THIS IS A REPEAT VIOLATION. THAT CONCLUDES CASE NUMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT 2025 0596. PROPERTY ADDRESSES 1940 SHERMAN AVENUE, UNIT 103. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA THAT I'M MISSING? ANYTHING CODE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO BRING TO MY ATTENTION. OKAY, I HAVE A DOCUMENT REGARDING PROPERTY AT 7420 HIGHWAY 2302. I'M ASSUMING MAYBE THIS WAS FOR MY REVIEW LATER ON, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S ON THIS CURRENT AGENDA. STATING WHAT THEY DID IS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO IT WAS PAPER CLIPPED WITH SOME OTHER PROPERTY ON 2302. I THINK IT WAS ON WAS THAT THEY SAW A LETTER F, IT WAS 7203 HIGHWAY THREE 2302. BUT I THINK IT WAS A DIFFERENT ADDRESS. IT'S NOT THE EXACT* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.