[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] CALL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 3RD TO ORDER. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL. MR. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. TODAY. INVOCATION IS BY PASTOR BILL SMALL WITH WOODLAWN CHURCH. AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE IS BY COMMISSIONER CARROLL. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. LET'S PRAY. GOOD MORNING FATHER. GOOD MORNING JESUS. GOOD MORNING, HOLY SPIRIT. FIRST LET ME SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS. THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF, FOR THE MEASURE OF HEALTH, THE NEED TO FULFILL OUR CALLINGS AND FOR SUSTENANCE AND FOR FRIENDSHIP. THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL WORK, AND FOR THE HONOR OF BEARING APPROPRIATE RESPONSIBILITIES. THANKS AS WELL FOR THE FREEDOM TO EMBRACE YOU FOR YOUR MERCY AND GRACE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR LOVING US EVEN SO, FROM YOUR BOUNDLESS AND GRACIOUS NATURE. IN THE SCRIPTURES YOU HAVE SAID THAT CITIZENS SHOULD OBEY THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES. SINCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED THOSE VERY AUTHORITIES TO PROMOTE PEACE, ORDER AND JUSTICE. THEREFORE, I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTY COMMISSION. LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD HEAR US AS WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE CONFLICTING INTERESTS AND ISSUES OF OUR TIMES, A SENSE OF WELFARE AND TRUE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE, A KEEN THIRST FOR JUSTICE, CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS GOOD AND FITTING, THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT. PERSONAL PEACE IN THEIR LIVES AND JOY IN THEIR TASK. I PRAY FOR THE AGENDA SET BEFORE THEM TODAY. PLEASE GIVE AN ASSURANCE OF WHAT WOULD PLEASE YOU AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY AND WORK AROUND THIS AREA. JESUS IS IN YOUR HOLY NAME THAT WE PRAY TOGETHER. AMEN. AMEN. WE WILL FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA OF ANY ADDITIONS OR [APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)] DELETIONS. NONE FROM STAFF. MOTION TO APPROVE. GET A MOTION. SECOND MOTION. MULTIPLE SECONDS. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS TODAY. NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS RELATED TO ANY AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE TODAY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, THIS RELATES TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA [CONSENT AGENDA] THIS MORNING UNDER CLERK OF COURTS. ITEM ONE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF REPORTS UNDER BUDGET OFFICE ITEM TWO, FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 BUDGET UNDER COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM THREE MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL BOARD APPOINTMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW THE LETTER SUBMITTED BY THE MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF COUNCILMAN JASON ADAMS FOR THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE SEAT SET TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. ITEM FOUR PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT CONFIRMATION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL CHRISTIE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO FILL THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM, SET TO EXPIRE AT 1231, 2028, UNDER EMERGENCY SERVICES ITEM FIVE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY PLAN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY PLAN AND RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE SAME ITEM. SIX CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION FISCAL YEAR 2024 JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT. COUNTYWIDE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION FOR THE EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT COUNTYWIDE UNDER PUBLIC WORKS ITEM SEVEN, HODGES BAYOU PLANTATION. PHASE THREE C PLAT APPROVAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO [00:05:04] APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF THE HODGES BAYOU PLANTATION PHASE THREE SUBDIVISION AND BE AUTHORIZED THE CLERK TO RECORD THE MAINTENANCE BOND. ITEM EIGHT SAFE STREETS FOR ALL SAFETY ACTION PLAN APPROVAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE AND ADOPT THE BAY COUNTY SAFETY ACTION PLAN. AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT AND RECORD THE SAME WITH THE COUNTY CLERK UNDER RISK MANAGEMENT. ITEM NINE RENEWAL OF BAY COUNTY PROPERTY INSURANCE PROGRAM. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE RENEWAL OF THE BAY COUNTY PROPERTY INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND 2026 FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLERK OF COURT, PROPERTY APPRAISER, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, TAX COLLECTOR, AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, COMMISSIONER. PERSIS. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NEXT, WE HAVE REGULAR AGENDA. THIS IS COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE, DEBT MANAGEMENT ADVISORY [County Manager’s Office] COMMITTEE. YES, SIR. THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS AND APPOINT A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD TO THE DEBT MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS COMMITTEE CONSIDERS AND AUTHORIZES ANY BORROWING OR ANY NEED TO INCUR DEBT FOR ANY PURPOSE. IT'S COMPRISED OF THREE MEMBERS. IT'D BE THE CHAIRMAN, OUR CFO, CURRENTLY MIRANDA GRIFFIN, AND THEN ALSO A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. AND STAFF'S AGAIN, STAFF'S REQUEST WOULD BE FOR YOU ALL TO NOMINATE AND APPOINT SOMEBODY FOR THE THIRD MEMBER AMONGST THE OTHER FOUR. ON THIS REAL QUICK, AS CHAIRMAN, TAKING MY PRIVILEGE WITH THIS, THE COUNTY MANAGER USED TO BE PART OF THIS, BUT AS THE CHAIRMAN AND THE COUNTY MANAGER, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A SUNSHINE VOTE, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE CHAIRMAN COULD NEVER DISCUSS ANY OF THESE TOPICS. SO A COUPLE YEARS BACK, BOB ROLLED OFF AND WE NOW APPOINT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER TYPICALLY TO SERVE ON THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS STRUCTURED THE WAY WE DO. SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF THIS? ROBERT, HAVEN'T YOU SERVED IN THE PAST? YES, SIR. OKAY. YEP. I WOULD NOMINATE ROBERT TO FILL THAT POSITION. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU JUST GOT VOLUNTOLD. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAPHIEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. DANIEL IS THE ONE NOT HERE. HE WAS THE ONE SUPPOSED TO NOMINATE. JUST JOKING. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE. WE STILL PART OF REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE [Public Works] COLLEGE STATION, PHASE FOUR, LIFT STATION, PARCEL EXCHANGE APPROVAL. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD. YES, SIR. I PERSONALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS A SIMPLE LAND SWAP FOR THE LIFT STATION, BUT DUE TO MY FIRM DOING WORK WITH THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER, WE'RE GOING TO. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MISS BRIDGET PRECISE, PRESIDENT, SAINT JOE COLLEGE STATION LLC IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL EXCHANGE WITH BAY COUNTY FOR THE COLLEGE STATION PHASE FOUR SUBDIVISION LIFT STATION. THE SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED AND LIFT STATION DEDICATED TO BAY COUNTY BY PLAT APPROVAL ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024. IT WAS LATER DISCOVERED A PORTION OF THE LIFT STATION WAS NOT LOCATED ON COUNTY PROPERTY. THE PARCEL EXCHANGE EFFECTIVELY CORRECTS THE LIFT STATION. PARCEL LOCATION BY CONVEYANCES WOULD BE COUNTY AND THE COLLEGE STATION COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. THE PARTIAL EXCHANGE DOCUMENTS PARCEL A AND B WERE REVIEWED BY STAFF, AND IT COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER ONE, 77.071, FLORIDA STATUTES AND BAY COUNTY REGULATIONS. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS BOARD TO APPROVE PARTIAL EXCHANGE OF THE COLLEGE STATION PHASE FOUR LIFT STATION PARCEL, AND AUTHORIZED STAFF TO RECORD THE CONVEYANCES WITH THE CLERK OF COURT. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NO QUESTIONS FROM THE DAIS, I CAN'T GET A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL ABSTAINS. NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 12, SCOTT GRANT WITH FDOT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND CEI SERVICES FOR COUNTY ROAD 2321 RESURFACING PROJECT. KEITH. YES, SIR. FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS PROVIDED A SMALL COUNTY OUTREACH PROGRAM, [00:10:02] COMMONLY CALLED SCOTT GRANT, TO ASSIST THE FUNDING WITH THE RESURFACING OF COUNTY ROAD 2321 FROM US 231 TO DEER POINT LAKE DAM. THE PROJECT INCLUDES TURN LANES, GUARDRAILS, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AND OTHER AUDIBLE VIBRATORY TREATMENTS. THE AGREEMENT AUTHORIZES FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,358,630 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION OF THE PROJECT, WITH NO COUNTY MATCH REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION. THE REQUESTED MOTION IS A APPROVED THE SMALL COUNTY OUTREACH PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE RESURFACING OF COUNTY ROAD 2321 PROJECT, AND BE AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT RESOLUTION AND ANY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. HOW, KEITH? HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE ROUNDABOUT AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING THERE IN YOUR TITUS? THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LOT OF COORDINATION, BUT WE'LL TIE TO IT ON EACH END. COMING IN, COMING OUT OF IT. THE ROUNDABOUT WILL THAT WE'RE DOING THE WORK. THIS WILL ARE THE TWO SEPARATE AREAS TO WORK IN OR THE ROUNDABOUTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS RESURFACING. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FEATHER AND FEATHER OUT ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT SHOULD OCCUR BEFORE THIS. OH GOOD. OKAY. IS IT A IS IT A MILL AND RESURFACE OR JUST A RESURFACE? I'M REALLY NOT TOO SURE. I'LL BE HONEST WITH THAT. I GOT SCOTT IN THE ROOM. I THINK THERE WILL BE A MILL AND RESURFACE. OKAY, NOW THIS IS JUST THE AGREEMENT WITH DOT. WE'VE NOT GONE OUT TO BID YET. NO, SIR, NO, SIR. THIS IS JUST FOR THE FUNDING. PERFECT. AND WHEN DO WE THINK THIS WILL GO OUT? I BELIEVE THIS FUNDING IS IN 26. SO IT'S GOING TO COME AFTER JULY THEN? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THAT WOULD ALSO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT. WHEN WOULD THAT THE ROUNDABOUT SCHEDULED. WE HAVE POSTED SIGNS. I'LL BE HONEST SCOTT, DO YOU KNOW THE DATE FOR THIS? THEY'RE ADVERTISING. OKAY, OKAY. SO IT'S COMING UP SOON. WE HAVE POSTED SIGNS IN THE AREA OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT THE PROJECT IS COMING SOON. THAT LEFT COMING FROM TITUS TWO 2321 HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A PROBLEM FOR DRIVERS. YOU GOT THE CURVATURE OF THE ROADWAY ON 2321. THE SIGHT DISTANCE IS AN ISSUE. SLOWING THEM DOWN WITH THE ROUNDABOUT WILL GREATLY IMPROVE SAFETY IN THE AREA. AND THEN THE HIGH POINT COMING IN RIGHT THERE ON THAT OTHER SIDE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KEITH? I DON'T I THINK ROBERT ASKED THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS, IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE ROAD WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MESS UP ANY OF THAT A LOT OF TIMES. CONNECTING. SO THAT WAS ALL I HAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. I THINK THIS IS GREAT. WE WANT TO DEFINITELY THANK DOT FOR PARTNERING AND NO MATCHING FUNDS REQUIRED ON OUR PART. WE ALWAYS LOVE FREE DOLLARS. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S MY FAVORITE PART. THANK YOU GUYS SCOTT YOU FOR SECURING THE FUNDING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL WITH THAT CAN I GET A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND MOTION IN MULTIPLE SECONDS. TO DELAY. DELAY, DELAY. CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PERSIS. YES, COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. [County Attorney] YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS IS REVISIONS TO CHAPTER SIX OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES. MISS BEVERLY, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. CHAIRMAN. CHAPTER SIX OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THE BUILDING'S CONSTRUCTION AND TECHNICAL CODES. AND THESE CHANGES THAT WE ARE MAKING TO THESE PROVISIONS ARE REALLY JUST PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO CLEAN UP THE CODE AND ELIMINATE OUTDATED PROVISIONS AND MISSPELLINGS, TYPOS, AND DOING SOME UPDATING. THERE'S NO REAL SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL CHANGES THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT IN CHAPTER SIX. WHAT WE'VE REALLY DONE HERE IS ELIMINATE THE VERY OUTDATED ELECTRICAL CODE AND SOME OTHER OUTDATED PROVISIONS THAT ARE SUFFICIENTLY ADDRESSED IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, WHICH CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER 553 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES. SO THIS REVISION BASICALLY STATES THAT WE ARE ADOPTING THE CURRENT EDITION OF THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, AS ADOPTED BY THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE ADDED A DEFINITION TO ARTICLE THREE OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CODE, CORRECTED SOME TYPOS, MISSPELLINGS, AND AGAIN INCORPORATED AND ADOPTED THE CURRENT EDITION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AS A STANDARD OF COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT CHAPTER SIX. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST WE HAVEN'T MADE ANYTHING MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THIS. IT WAS MORE OR LESS A CLEANUP OF THINGS THAT JUST BRINGING OURSELVES UP TO OUR CODE THAT [00:15:01] WE'RE ALREADY WORKING UNDER, CORRECT? I MEAN, WE BASICALLY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, AND THAT'S JUST ADOPTING IT AND REPLACING SOME VERY OUTDATED ELECTRICAL CODE PROVISIONS. AND WITH THAT SAID, WE'D ASK YOU TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE REVISING CHAPTER SIX OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE. MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFFIELD. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING. [PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)] NOW, WE ARE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE WHICH YOU THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSION MAY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I HAVE. NO. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SYLVIA JONES. MY ADDRESS IS 10305 THOMAS LANE, FOUNTAIN, FLORIDA. 32438. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I. I CAN BEGIN, RIGHT, I CAN BEGIN, YES. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ADDRESS SEVERAL PRESSING ISSUES, CONCERNS REGARDING ANIMAL WELFARE AND CONTROL PRACTICES IN BAY COUNTY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE CASE OF NALA, A LOYAL DOG WHO HAS BEEN CONFINED IN ISOLATION FOR SIX MONTHS. HER ONLY OFFENSE WAS PROTECTING HER GUARDIAN FROM A MAN WHO APPROACHED HER OWNER TOO CLOSELY, AND HE WAS ALSO LATER ARRESTED ON DRUG CHARGES. THIS DOG HAS BEEN DEPRIVED OF SUNLIGHT, OUTDOOR ACCESS AND COMPANIONSHIP FOR SIX MONTHS NOW AND ALL ENDURES CONDITIONS THAT RAISE SERIOUS ETHICAL AND LEGAL CONCERNS. NOW THIS SITUATION IS NOT UNIQUE. IT REFLECTS A TROUBLING PATTERN IN BAY COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL PRACTICES, WHERE PROCEDURES OFTEN LACK TRANSPARENCY AND COMPASSION, FROM THE SEIZURE OF PETS TO UNCLEAR AND CIRCUMSTANCES, TO THE TRAPPING AND REMOVAL OF COMMUNITY CATS. WITHOUT HUMANE PROTOCOLS, THE CURRENT SYSTEM FAILS BOTH ANIMALS AND THE RESIDENTS WHO CARE FOR THEM. FURTHERMORE, CURRENT POLICIES IMPOSE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BURDENS ON PET OWNERS. IF A PET ESCAPES AND IS IMPOUNDED, OWNERS FACE FEES THAT CAN QUICKLY BECOME UNMANAGEABLE. $50 FOR THE FIRST IMPOUND, 100 FOR THE SECOND, AND 200 FOR SUBSEQUENT IMPOUNDS, PLUS DAILY BOARDING FEES OF $10. FOR FAMILIES FACING FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS, THESE COSTS CAN BE INSURMOUNTABLE, LEADING TO THE HEARTBREAKING OUTCOME WHERE BELOVED PETS ARE EUTHANIZED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR OWNERS CANNOT AFFORD TO RECLAIM THEM. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROCESS FOR DESIGNATING A DOG AS DANGEROUS OFTEN LACKS COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION. CURRENTLY, A DOG MAY BE LABELED AS DANGEROUS AND FACE EUTHANASIA BASED ON LIMITED ASSESSMENTS. WE PROPOSE THAT ANY DOG CONSIDER FOR SUCH DESIGNATION UNDERGO EVALUATION BY A CERTIFIED CANINE BEHAVIORAL SPECIALIST WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR SECOND OPINIONS AND TRANSPARENT ASSESSMENTS INVOLVING MULTIPLE QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS. WE ARE, WE URGE, IMMEDIATE ACTION FOR ONE REVIEW AND RELEASE TO CONDUCT A THOROUGH REVIEW OF NALA'S CASE AND RELEASE HER FROM CONFINEMENT. HER PROLONGED ISOLATION IS UNJUST AND INHUMANE. IMPLEMENT BODY CAMERAS FOR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS. EQUIP ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS WITH BODY CAMERAS TO ENSURE LAWFUL AND HUMANE PROCEDURES. FOSTERING PUBLIC TRUST THREE. REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION. REQUIRE LEGAL DOCUMENTATION FOR ANIMAL SEIZURES. MANDATE SEARCH WARRANTS AND APPROPRIATE LEGAL DOCUMENTATION BEFORE ENTERING PRIVATE PARTIES. PROPERTY TO SEIZE ANIMALS EXCEPT IN CASES OF IMMEDIATE DANGER. WHERE FORMED CAT TRAPPING POLICIES. ESTABLISH CITIZEN OVERSIGHT BOARD. IMPLEMENT A SLIDING SCALE FOR FEES AND A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION FOR DOG FOR DANGEROUS DOG DESIGNATIONS. COMMISSIONER PEACE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE DIRE CONDITIONS FACED BY DOLPHINS AT GULF WORLD. YOUR WORDS HAVE GIVEN US HOPE. HOWEVER, THE DOLPHINS REMAIN IN UNSANITARY, TOXIC TANKS AWAITING RELOCATION. IF DELAYS PERSIST, IMMEDIATE ACTION MUST BE TAKEN TO CLEAN THESE TANKS, AS PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO SUCH CONDITIONS POSES A DIRECT THREAT TO THEIR HEALTH AND WELL BEING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO MAKE BAY COUNTY A PLACE WHERE ALL BEINGS ARE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY. GO AHEAD, JANET RENEE PURVIS, MY ADDRESS IS 2718 HYDE [00:20:06] AVENUE. I'M A LIFELONG BAY COUNTY RESIDENT, BORN AND RAISED HERE AND A LIFELONG ANIMAL LOVER. I RECENTLY LOST AN ANIMAL THAT I HAD ALMOST 14 YEARS, SO I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH NALA'S OWNER, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS ALMOST AS BAD AS LOSING MY CHILD. NALA HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED AS A DANGEROUS DOG, ONE THAT HAS BITTEN OR ATTACKED A PERSON, RESULTING IN SEVERE INJURIES. THIS MAN HAD NO SEVERE INJURIES, NO DISFIGURING INJURIES. HE HAD THREE STITCHES. THE REASON ALL ABOUT HIM WAS HE WAS RUNNING TOWARD. HIS OWNER. HE WAS PROTECTING HIS OWNER. HE DID NOT ATTACK THIS MAN. HE BIT HIM ONE TIME AND RELEASED AS A WARNING TO STOP. DO NOT APPROACH MY OWNER. NALA HAS NEVER INJURED OR KILLED AN ANIMAL. AND I JUST THINK THE DANGEROUS DOG LABEL WAS VERY UNFAIR. HERE NALA INTERACTS WITH CHILDREN, CATS, OTHER DOGS. THERE ARE VIDEOS OF NALA APPROACHING PEOPLE, NEVER ATTACKING THEM. SHE'S NOT A DANGEROUS DOG AND THIS IS VERY UNFAIR TO NALA'S OWNER AND NALA. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S REALLY GETTING THEM DOWN BEING A PART, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF US THAT OUR ANIMALS ARE LIKE OUR CHILDREN, AND THIS MAN IS ONE OF THOSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. A SECOND. MY NAME IS DOUGLAS KILPATRICK, 733 NORTH NINTH PLAZA AND PARKER, AND I'M THE OWNER OF NALA KILPATRICK, WHICH HAS BEEN IN ANIMAL CONTROL SINCE JANUARY THE 5TH, I BELIEVE. ON THIS NIGHT IN QUESTION, SOME GUY WAS RUNNING DOWN THE ROAD IN THE DARK AND HE WAS ONLY 12 STEPS FROM IN FRONT OF ME. AND HE WAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY ARRESTED ON DRUGS LESS THAN 30 DAYS PREVIOUS, AND SHE LEFT THE YARD TO PROTECT ME. NOW ANIMAL CONTROL HAS DECLARED HER DANGEROUS, AND ALL IT TAKES TO DECLARE A DOG DANGEROUS IS THREE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, AND THEY USUALLY STICK TOGETHER. AND I JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT SHE'S A WONDERFUL DOG. SHE'S MADE OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE, INTERACTED WITH OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN AS WELL AS ADULTS. SHE'S INTERACTED WITH ANIMALS, DOGS, CATS, SQUIRRELS AND EVERY OTHER ANIMAL UNDER THE SUN. AND SHE LOVES THEM. THERE WAS A PREVIOUS REPORT, TWO PREVIOUS REPORTS FROM ANIMAL CONTROL THAT SHE HAD ESCAPED INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD. BUT I HAVE A SWORN NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT FROM THAT NEIGHBOR THAT SHE DID NOT ADDRESS THE NEIGHBOR'S DOG OR ANY OF HER 12 CATS, OR THE NEIGHBOR HERSELF, BUT IT WAS WRITTEN UP IN ANIMAL CONTROL THAT SHE DID. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS COERCED INTO SAYING THAT OR NOT, BUT I DO HAVE A SWORN STATEMENT TO THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IMPOSSIBLE TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS FURTHER WITH ANYBODY HERE. IF YOU WAIT AFTER THE MEETING, WE'LL. YEAH. I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU. IF YOU'LL JUST WOULDN'T MIND WAITING A LITTLE BEFORE THE MEETING. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT? SEEING NONE. COUNTY [COUNTY MANAGER REPORT] ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NO REPORT. ALL RIGHT. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT. I HAVE ONE ITEM, AND THAT IS THE SAINT ANDREW AND SAINT JOE ESTUARY PROGRAM. THERE IS CURRENTLY A MOVEMENT TO SEEK THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM DESIGNATION. AND WHILE THERE, THERE ARE MANY BENEFITS TO THAT. THERE ARE ALSO SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONS. WE'VE INUNDATED YOU WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION THE LAST TWO WEEKS FROM STAFF AND ALSO FROM DOCTOR JESSICA GRAHAM, WHO'S ALSO HERE THIS MORNING. SO WE ARE SEEKING THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION ON ON THAT BOARD, THE ESTUARY, SEEKING THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM DESIGNATION, THAT DIRECTION. I BELIEVE THERE'S STILL A LOT, NOT A LOT, BUT THERE'S SOME SUBSTANTIAL INFORMATION THAT'S STILL OUTSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE COMMISSION. SO THAT DIRECTION COULD EASILY BE FOR [00:25:06] STAFF TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION. AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE IF THE COMMISSION HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE COULD CERTAINLY ADDRESS THOSE. BUT WE WOULD AT LEAST COUNTY MANAGER MICA PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, AT LEAST UNDER UPDATES TO START THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE ONLY TWO OF YOU SERVE ON THAT BOARD. SO THIS WOULD ENABLE THE FIVE OF YOU TO DISCUSS YOUR CURRENT THOUGHTS ON IT, AND ALSO MAYBE INQUIRE FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR SO STAFF CAN ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, AND WE CAN WORK WITH DOCTOR GRAHAM AND OBTAINING THAT INFORMATION AND POTENTIALLY BRING THAT BACK ON AN AGENDA LATER. AND DOCTOR, LIKE I SAID, DOCTOR GRAHAM IS HERE. IF YOU'D LIKE HER TO GIVE A BACKGROUND AND PROVIDE INFORMATION OR ANSWER QUESTIONS. CHAIRMAN, I HAD SPOKEN WITH DOCTOR GRAHAM ABOUT COMING BEFORE YOU AND EXPLAINING JUST SOME DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT ESTUARY. WE SHE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF ANSWERING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN SO MANY, JUST TRYING TO GET ME UPDATED ON HOW IT ALL WORKED AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND I THINK THE, THE MAIN PROBLEM OR QUESTION THAT WE HAD WAS DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH FINANCING? AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION GOING IN, AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT MAYBE THEY DIDN'T. AND SO I ASKED FOR A BUDGET. AND THEIR THEIR BUDGET WAS SO DIFFERENT FROM THE TIGHT BUDGET THAT WE ALL LOOK AT EVERY DAY THAT I SUGGESTED THAT WE HELP HER PUT TOGETHER A MORE COMPLETE BUDGET, AND SHE HAS BEEN GIVEN US ALL THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN MANY, BUT WE HAVE ALMOST GOTTEN THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT. SHE STILL GOT A FEW THINGS THAT SHE'S WORKING WITH MIRANDA ON TO PULL TOGETHER. AND I THINK ONCE WE GET THAT COMPLETE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUPPORT THE RIGHT WAY. AND SO I PROMISED HER THAT I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS AND TRY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS SHE CAN TODAY. AND THEN ONCE WE PULL ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER, THAT'S YET TO COME. THEN WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE GREAT PICTURE OF HOW THIS THING'S GOING TO GO. BUT SHE'S SHE RUNS A GREAT MEETING AND HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB. AND SO IF YOU'LL ALLOW HER TO TELL US ABOUT IT. CERTAINLY, DOCTOR GRAHAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK, REALLY JUST ABOUT THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION. THE FINANCES ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE IT'S GRANT AND REIMBURSABLE GRANTS, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON KIND OF THE OPERATING BUDGET SIDE OF THINGS. AS FAR AS THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION GOES, WHEN THE ESTUARY PROGRAM WAS CREATED BACK IN 2020 BY THIS BOARD AND SUPPORTED BY SOME MONEY FROM RESTORE AND THE NATURE CONSERVANCY, IT WAS MODELED AFTER A NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM. BECAUSE OF HOW MANY SUCCESSES THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE HAD, BOTH IN FLORIDA AS WELL AS ACROSS THE NATION. NOW, IT WAS NEVER DETERMINED THAT THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE NEEDED TO GO. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DETERMINED BY THE BOARD. THE FIRST STEP WAS TO CREATE THE COMPREHENSIVE CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAMS, THAT WAS JUST PUBLISHED IN APRIL OF 2024. SO NOW WE'VE GOT OUR PLAN. WE KNOW HOW TO DO THINGS TO MAKE OUR RESOURCES BETTER. AND SO THEN THERE WAS CONSISTENT CONVERSATION AT THE BOARD LEVEL TO SEEK NATIONAL DESIGNATION. IT TAKES TIME. THERE'S BEEN NO NEW ESTUARY PROGRAM DESIGNATED SINCE 1995 UNTIL LAST YEAR, WHEN PENSACOLA PERDIDO WAS SUCCESSFUL IN BEING DESIGNATED. SO THERE'S A HUGE GAP IN TIME OF WHEN ANY ESTUARY PROGRAM COULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR NATIONAL DESIGNATION. AND RIGHT NOW, THERE IS SOME SUPPORT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO DESIGNATE THIS PROGRAM AS A NATIONAL PROGRAM. BUT OF COURSE, THE LOCAL BUY IN IS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. A FEW THINGS ABOUT WHAT THE DESIGNATION PROVIDES AND WHAT IT DOESN'T DO IS IT WILL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COME INTO THE AREA THAT WILL HELP TO IMPLEMENT THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE ACTIONS THAT ARE IN THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN. IT DOES NOT INCREASE REGULATION. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD OR TRANSFER DECISIONS TO ANY FEDERAL OR STATE AGENCY. THOSE DECISIONS REMAIN AT THE POLICY BOARD LEVEL. THE MAKEUP OF THE POLICY BOARD IS DETERMINED BY THE POLICY BOARD. OUR POLICY BOARD RIGHT NOW IS LOCALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THE [00:30:01] MUNICIPALITIES IN BAY COUNTY AND GULF COUNTY. WE FOCUSED ON THOSE TWO COUNTIES, AND FSU HAS A VOTING SEAT AS WELL BECAUSE THERE ARE FISCAL HOST. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I KNOW REAL QUICK THAT COMMISSIONER RAFAEL HAS A FEW QUESTIONS. SINCE HE'S THE DISEMBODIED VOICE. I'LL I'LL LET HIM TAKE THE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO FROM THERE. BUT, DANIEL. HEY, MISS GRAHAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I APOLOGIZE THAT I CAN'T MAKE IT, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE. THE ONLY REAL QUESTION THAT I HAVE THIS MORNING, AND I KNOW WE WILL CARRY THIS ON FURTHER, IS, YOU KNOW WHAT? US TAKING THIS FEDERAL MONEY, WHERE ARE WE ONCE WE BRING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTO OUR PROGRAM? AS FAR AS WHAT WHAT ARE THEY ABLE TO DO, MAYBE TO HAVE POWER OVER THE COMMISSION OR OVER, YOU KNOW, TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THEIR MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE RULES. AND SO THAT'S SOME OF MY QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU. YES. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT ANY STRINGS ATTACHED TO THE FEDERAL FUNDING. SO THE WAY THAT THE FEDERAL FUNDING COMES DOWN AND THAT WE'RE BASICALLY CHECKED ON PERFORMANCE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE STAYING TRUE TO OUR CAMP. THE CAMP IS DETERMINED AND VOTED ON BY THE POLICY BOARD AND THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE. SO AS LONG AS WE ARE DOING ACTIONS AND SPENDING THE FUNDING ON THINGS THAT ARE IN THE CAMP, WE CHECK OUR BOXES. THOSE ARE SORT OF OUR STRINGS, IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT MEET OUR CAMP. BUT THE POLICY BOARD AND THE MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE, WHICH INCLUDES THE MANAGEMENT COUNCIL AND ADVISORY COMMITTEES, ARE THE ONES THAT CREATE THAT CAMP. AND SO WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT. THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN APRIL OF 2024, AND WE HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE COMMENT ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE IN THERE. AND IT WAS VOTED ON ULTIMATELY BY THE POLICY BOARD. WERE THESE COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC HEARINGS OR WE HAD PUBLIC WORKSHOPS? WE HAD ONLINE FEEDBACK AS WELL. WE SENT IT OUT TO SPECIFIC PEOPLE WHO REQUESTED IT. SOME STATE AGENCIES NEEDED EXTRA TIME TO PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK, AND THEN ANY FEEDBACK WAS DISCUSSED AT THE POLICY BOARD AND MANAGEMENT COUNCIL LEVEL, AND THEN EITHER INCORPORATED OR NOT, OR INCORPORATED WITH SOME EDITS. NO SIR, NO SIR. YOU GO. SO I KNOW THERE'S MORE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT EVEN IF YOU WENT TO A FEDERAL DESIGNATION, IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, DOES IT? RIGHT. THERE'S TWO PROCESSES. SO YOU GET NATIONAL DESIGNATION AND YOU GET TO BE INCLUDED TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE ALLOCATION OR APPROPRIATION. BUT THAT IS STILL ANOTHER ALLOCATION OR APPROPRIATION PROCESS, AS WITH ANY SORT OF LINE ITEM AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL. AND WITHOUT THAT DESIGNATION, YOU CAN'T PURSUE THAT FUNDING. CORRECT? RIGHT. AND IN HERE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD ANSWERED WAS THE IT'S AROUND 800,000 A YEAR. IS THAT 800,000 FROM THE FEDERAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MATCH AS WELL. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH 800,000 TO GET THAT. WELL, THE LOCAL THE PROGRAM WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH IT. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BAY COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE $800,000, BUT YOU CAN MATCH IT WITH FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE RAISED $8.5 MILLION IN FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS SINCE 2021. SO THOSE CAN BE USED TO MATCH AS WELL AS IN-KIND. AND SO OUR OUR SPACE AT FSU ALONE IS WORTH BETWEEN 30 TO $50,000 A YEAR JUST FOR OUR OFFICES. SO THOSE THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN MATCH IT. OTHER OH SORRY. SO IT'S NOT HAS TO COME FROM FROM THESE POTS OF FUNDS FROM FROM OUR. NO NO NO. ALL RIGHT. THERE WILL BE REQUESTS. SO THE KIND OF THE WAY THAT OTHER ESTUARY PROGRAMS DO IT IS THEY HAVE A DIVERSIFIED PORTFOLIO OF WHERE THEY'RE FINDING THEIR MATCH AND THEIR FUNDING. AND SO THERE'S GENERALLY MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY CONTRIBUTIONS INTO A POT, AS WELL AS THE IN-KIND AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL. SOME HAVE A PENNY TAX, SOME HAVE LICENSE PLATE REVENUE, SOME REQUEST STATE ALLOCATIONS FROM LEGISLATION. SO THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF WAYS TO MEET THAT 800,000. WHAT ABOUT YOU SAID THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS. BUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO BUILD A DOCK OR AN OUTFALL OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO INTO THE BAY SYSTEM, IS THAT A BOX THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO CHECK TO SAY, YEP, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT OR NO, NO, NOT AT ALL. THAT IS STILL WITHIN THE LOCAL. IF IT'S A LOCAL JURISDICTION, THEY WOULD DECIDE THAT THE PERMITTING AGENCIES WOULD DECIDE ON THE DOCK ON WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD [00:35:03] GO IN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATORY AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER. AND SO EVEN IF THE BOARD DECIDED THEY WANTED TO COMMENT ON CERTAIN PROJECTS, THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE THAT WOULDN'T BE. THAT'S NOT GENERALLY SOMETHING THAT IS DONE. WE DO GET REQUESTS FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT, USUALLY FOR BIGGER PROJECTS. BUT THE BOARD HAD DECIDED IN 2023 NOT TO PROVIDE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT REALM OF THINGS. SO THE CMP IS NOT ABLE TO ENACT ANY TYPE OF REGULATION? NO, NO, THERE'S THINGS IN THERE LIKE HELPING TO EDUCATE ABOUT SEPTIC TO SEWER TRANSITIONS OR TO SUPPORT SEPTIC TO SEWER TRANSITIONS. BUT THE ROLE THE ESTUARY PROGRAM WOULD PLAY VERSUS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THAT. WE'RE MORE OF AN ARM TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD, MAYBE GET SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS IN TO PROVIDE TO LANDOWNERS IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE THE HOOKUPS. BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD SAY, YES, YOU CAN DO IT HERE, BUT NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT HERE. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOT A LOT INVESTED IN OPENING EAST PASS. AND THAT HAS BEEN A BIG, BIG TOPIC HERE. HAS YOUR BOARD TAKEN A STANCE ON THAT YET? NOT OFFICIALLY, BUT THEY HAVE DISCUSSED IT A LOT, ESPECIALLY IN CREATION OF THE CMP. THE CMP IS WRITTEN AT A LITTLE BIT OF A BROADER LEVEL THAN SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY MADE ANY STATEMENT REGARDING THAT PROJECT OR ANY OTHER PROJECT. I COULD GUESS WHAT THEIR STATEMENT WOULD BE. IT HAS BEEN VERY MUCH KNOWN TO ME OF HOW IMPORTANT THAT PROJECT IS FROM EVEN BEFORE I TOOK THIS POSITION. AND SO IN THE CMP, THERE IS A GOAL THAT IS WRITTEN IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE PROCESS THAT WOULD OCCUR, WHETHER IT BE THE GULF CANAL. OF LOOKING AT THOSE. I KNOW DUSTY MAY CAME AND SPOKE WITH YOU ALL, LOOKING AT DEER POINT AND WATER WITHDRAWALS, LOOKING AT THE EAST PASS. AND SO IT'S LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE WATERSHED AS A WHOLE WITHIN THAT GOAL TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT LENGTH. SO WHAT IS THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IS IT JUST FUNDING THAT, THAT BY GOING TO A FEDERAL DESIGNATION THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN, IT'S BOILS DOWN TO YES. BEING ABLE TO GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AS WELL AS THE RECOGNITION. AND SO THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION, BECAUSE THERE'S VERY FEW THAT GET THAT NATIONAL DESIGNATION AND THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL. IT REALLY KIND OF PUTS US IN ANOTHER CLASS OF COMPETITION WHEN SUPPORT, WHEN TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THAT IT REPRESENTS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO DEALING WITH OUR RESOURCES. WELL, THE MAIN ONE THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IS EAST PASS, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S SUCH AN EFFORT THAT'S BEEN MADE FOR THAT AND THE QUALITY WATER QUALITY DIFFERENCE THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE IMPACT. SO YES, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE MAKING A STANCE ON. IT WAS REQUESTED TO GO ON THE AGENDA IN JUNE AT OUR JUNE MEETING. AND SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BOARD CONVERSATION IS AND WHAT THE DECISION IS, I CAN SEE THEM MAKING MAKING A POSITION ON THAT. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE IF HE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, TO GET THAT, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? PENSACOLA. SIX YEARS. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHORTEN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME RIGHT NOW. SO THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAMS BILL IS UP FOR REAUTHORIZATION IN 2026. AND THERE'S A HOPE THAT WITH THAT REAUTHORIZATION, THERE CAN BE ADDITIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAMS WRITTEN INTO THAT, AS WELL AS AN INDIVIDUAL BILL SIMILAR TO THE WAY PENSACOLA AND PERDIDO APPROACHED IT, INTRODUCED THROUGH CONGRESS. AND SO THEY'RE KIND OF TRYING TO HIT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT DESIGNATED BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT CAN BRING IN THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THIS AREA AND FOR THE LOCAL REGION. THE THREE AND A HALF EMPLOYEES THAT YOU HAVE IN THE BUDGET IS THAT ARE THEY 100% DEDICATED TO THIS WORKING FOR THIS BOARD OR JUST ON ON THESE? YES. IT'S MY FULL TIME JOB, RESEARCH PROJECTS OR SO. WE WRITE A LOT OF GRANTS. SO ALL OF OUR FUNDING RIGHT NOW THAT FUNDS STAFF AND WE HAVE A STAFF OF SEVEN, INCLUDING MYSELF, IS ALL OFF OF GRANTS. WE GET A VERY SMALL AMOUNT THROUGH PRIVATE DONATIONS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS. SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT WE'RE APPROACHING IT IS TO LOOK AT THE CMP AND THE PRIORITIES AND FIND FUNDING AGENCIES THAT SUPPORT THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND WE TALK ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS AT THE BOARD LEVEL. AND I TRY TO GET AS MUCH FUNDING AS WE CAN IN THERE. BUT WE DO HAVE SEVEN, SIX FULL TIME, ONE PART TIME. SO SEVEN TOTAL STAFF MEMBERS RIGHT NOW, ALL FEDERALLY FUNDED OFF OF GRANTS. SO THREE AND A HALF, THREE AND A HALF IS OUR CORE. SO BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH ADDITIONAL GRANTS WE HAVE [00:40:05] ADDITIONAL STAFF. BUT OUR CORE OF GOT TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, KEEP THE PROGRAM RUNNING IS THREE AND A HALF POSITIONS, BUT IT'S SOLELY FOR THIS PROJECT, THE ESTUARY PROGRAM. YES, WHICH IS NUMEROUS PROJECTS. IT'S A BIG, BIG LIFT. OKAY. AND THIS BOARD DID DEVOTE, RESTORE OR PLEDGE RESTORE FUNDING BEFORE WHEN IT WAS CREATED IN THE TOTAL OF ABOUT 233,000 A YEAR TO SUPPORT THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE ESTUARY PROGRAM AND IMPLEMENT THE CMP, ANY OF THE GULF CONSORTIUM FUNDS ALL REQUESTING ANY OF THAT, OR WE HAVE NOT GONE AFTER GULF CONSORTIUM FUNDS. WE'VE GONE AFTER POT TWO FUNDS AND BEEN SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL. THEIR TIMELINE IS EXTENSIVE. AND THEN USUALLY NOAA AND DEP. SOME OTHER AGENCIES LIKE THAT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CLAIRE, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAYBE I'M UNSURE OF. AND I GUESS IT WAS DAY ONE. I SPOKE WITH YOU ABOUT THE PAST BECAUSE WE ARE ALL AND AS I UNDERSTOOD IT AND IN THE BOOK AND I TRIED TO COMPREHEND ALL THAT QUICKLY SO THAT I COULD, YOU KNOW, BE HELPFUL. BUT THE BOOK, THE I GUESS THAT'S THE CMP BOOK. SO IT STATED IN THERE, AND YOU AND I DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT THAT THIS ESTUARY BOARD WOULD, WOULD REALLY NOT TAKE A STAND, WOULD NOT TAKE SIDES. WE WOULD NOT WRITE A LETTER FOR ANY PROJECT OTHER THAN JUST OUR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THE GRANTS FOR AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO WHAT CONCERNED ME IS THAT WE AS AN ESTUARY BOARD OF OUR BAY, THAT'S SO, SO IMPORTANT TO SO, SO MANY, SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S HARD TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, SIT DOWN AND NUMBER THEM THAT WE WOULDN'T REALLY TAKE A STAND OR WRITE A LETTER BECAUSE I ASK YOU IMMEDIATELY ON DAY ONE TO WRITE A LETTER BECAUSE WE NEEDED THAT LETTER FROM BOARDS LIKE THE ESTUARY AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT MARINE, ALL KIND OF DIFFERENT BOARDS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IN, IN OUR BAY TO GET THAT PASS OPEN BECAUSE IT IS, AS YOU SAY, HEAVY LIFT. IT IS ENORMOUS. BILL DOZIER HAD WORKED ON IT FOR YEARS. AND WHEN I SPOKE TO BILL, I DON'T THINK THAT HE, YOU KNOW, HE WAS ALWAYS FOR OPEN IN THE PAST. AND I THINK WHEN HE VOTED FOR THIS CMP, HE HE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MEANT THE ESTUARY BOARD WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO OR STAND BEHIND WRITING, MAYBE WRITING A LETTER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE PASS AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND ON OR SEWER PROBLEMS AND IMPROVEMENTS WHERE SEWERS RUNNING INTO THE BAY. I MEAN, IT REALLY DOESN'T TAKE A BUNCH OF SCIENTISTS TO KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD THING. PAVING ROADS. YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE SO MANY GRAVEL, GRAVEL ROADS AND DIRT ROADS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO THESE ARE THESE ARE THINGS THAT JUST CONCERN ME. AND I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN WORK THIS OUT AND MAYBE ADD IT TO THIS CMP OR HOWEVER, IF THAT'S ABLE TO BE DONE THAT WAY, I'M NOT SURE. BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME AS BAY COUNTY. WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE PROBLEMS FOR OUR BAY, AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING THESE THINGS TOP AND FRONT AND CENTER OF EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON, INCLUDING THIS BOARD. NOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU GUYS SHE'S DONE A FABULOUS JOB OF PULLING ALL THIS TOGETHER FOR US, AND SHE IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT SHE'S DOING. THIS. WHEN WE GET THROUGH WITH THIS, IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THE RESTRICTED AND UNRESTRICTED FUNDING, WHERE IT CAME FROM, WHAT THEY'VE SPENT SINCE 2021. SO WE'RE GOING BACK AND JUST SHOWING YOU SORT OF A ROADMAP OF WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE SINCE 20 2019 THROUGH 20, AS MUCH INFORMATION AS AS WE CAN PULL BACK TOGETHER. AND FSU KIND OF BOILS ALL THIS MONEY INTO ONE SPOT. SO IT'S BEEN QUITE A TASK FOR THEM TO PULL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS OUT FOR US SO THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU WHERE SHE IS. I BELIEVE THAT SHE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO NEED SOME FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO DO ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE, BUT I'M NOT I'M I'M VERY CONCERNED. AND I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT LETTING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE CONTROL OF ANYTHING LIKE [00:45:07] THIS. AND I WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT RESTRICTIVE ACCESS, JUST REGULATORY RESTRICTIONS. THEY THEY COULD THEY COULD SAY THERE'S A CERTAIN FISH THAT IS TRAVELING SOMEWHERE NEAR OUR PASS AND SAY, WELL, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, NO WAKE ZONE ALL THE WAY FROM HERE TO YOU GET OUTSIDE THE PASS, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, DO JUST I MEAN, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO, TO THIS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND HOPEFULLY IN THE, IN THE NEXT LITTLE BIT WHEN WE'RE ALL STILL GATHERING DATA AND YOU'RE HELPING ME UNDERSTAND THAT I SHOULDN'T, I SHOULDN'T BE WORRIED ABOUT IT THEN. BUT I THINK YOU HAD ASKED ME AT THE MEETING YOU WANTED EVERYONE TO VOTE FOR SOME SOME MONEY. YOU WANTED THE COUNTY COMMISSION, THE CITIES AND ALL TO GET TOGETHER. AND I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT ALL OF YOU HEARING IT AND VOTING ON IT. SO CAN YOU JUST GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW? BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GET TO A CRITICAL PROBLEM WITH YOUR FINANCES. AND, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT COULD BE VERY CLOSE. AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT ANYONE THAT'S UNDER A FINANCIAL STRAIN IS NOT ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO WORRIED ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING TO COME FROM. RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD RIGHT THERE. AS FAR AS THE FINANCING GOES. YOU KNOW, THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME FUNDING COMING THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION, AND THAT HASN'T AMOUNTED. AND SO WE ARE IN A, I MEAN, A SITUATION WHERE OUR ACTIVITIES ARE VERY RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF THE GRANTS ARE FUNDING IT. I CAN'T JUST GO DO WHATEVER I WANT BECAUSE I HAVE TO CHARGE MY TIME TO A GRANT. AND SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SECURING UNRESTRICTED FUNDING. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MORE ON PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS PROJECT PRIORITIZATION AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE BIGGER SCALE. SO THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED FOR YEARS WAS A ALLOCATION METHODOLOGY, AND WE MIRROR IT OFF OF A LOT OF WHAT OTHER NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAMS HAVE DONE. AND SO PENSACOLA PERDIDO IS AN EXAMPLE NEARBY. THEY HAVE THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES THAT CONTRIBUTE ANNUALLY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE UNRESTRICTED FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED FOR MATCH, THAT CAN BE USED FOR LEVERAGE FOR OTHER GETTING OTHER GRANT FUNDS IN, BUT IT GIVES THEM A CUSHION TO HAVE THEIR OPERATIONS TO BE UNRESTRICTED. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CUSHION RIGHT NOW. AND SO BECAUSE THAT ALLOCATION METHODOLOGY WAS BASED ON POPULATION AND THEN TIERED, AND SO AT THE TIME, WE DID NOT HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT IN ORDER TO PUT THOSE FUNDS INTO. SO WE COULD NOT ASK THE CITIES AND COUNTIES FOR ANY MONEY. WE'VE WE'VE JUMPED TO THAT HURDLE. AND SO THERE ARE REQUESTS GOING OUT FOR FY 25, 26 FOR CONTRIBUTIONS. ULTIMATELY, IT'S A INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION OR COUNCIL DECISION. THE LETTER THAT IS ON THERE THAT WAS VOTED ON PRIOR TO YOU COMING ON BOARD WAS JUST A REPRESENTATION OF THE BOARD, THE POLICY BOARD'S POSITION THAT, YES, WE BELIEVE IN THIS PROGRAM AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO START THE CONVERSATION FOR CONTRIBUTIONS. WHAT EVENTUALLY COMES OUT OF EACH MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY IS DETERMINED BY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONS AND COUNCILS. SO WE MAY REQUEST $20,000. YOU MAY GIVE $1,000. THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL. BUT THAT IS A STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS. TO BE ABLE TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN FUNDING, BECAUSE WE CAN BE TOLD, LIKE, I HAVE TWO GRANTS THAT I'M WAITING ON RIGHT NOW TO COME INTO THE DOOR, AND IT CAUSES A DELAY IN ORDER TO GET EVERYTHING. AND THEN I STILL HAVE STAFF TO, TO FUND. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FUNDING AND HOW THAT HAS MANAGED OVER TIME. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME WITH OUR HAND OUT AND NOT DO ANY WORK. AND SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FROM THIS COUNTY'S INVESTMENT WITH THE $720,000 INITIALLY HAS BEEN GIVEN, I BELIEVE IT'S A 12 TO 1. SO WE'VE RAISED $12 FOR EVERY $1 THAT WE WERE INITIALLY GIVEN WITH GRANT FUNDS AND OTHER METHODS. AND SO THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING IN-KIND WORK. AND SO WE DO WANT TO SHOW OUR IMPACT MORE THAN JUST COMING. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD SOME DELAYS IN DOING THAT IS IT TAKES TIME TO SHOW IMPACT. AND SO WE'VE GOT OUR [00:50:01] CMP, WE'VE GOT OUR DIRECTION. WE'RE STARTING TO GET SOME PROJECTS ON THE GROUND AND THEN NOW IT'LL COME THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WE CAN POINT TO SUCCESSES AND SHOW THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO. WE DO NEED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE. IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY AWARE THAT FSU DOES COVER HER UNTIL THEY WRITE THE WRITE THE BILL UP AND SEND IT IN. SO FSU HAS BEEN PLAYING A HUGE ROLE IN IN THIS WHOLE ESTUARY PROGRAM, AND WE APPRECIATE THEM SO MUCH. THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF THE TEMPORARY PIGGY BANK UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE. AND THEN SHE TURNS THE RECEIPT IN AND THEN THEY GET PAID BACK. SO THAT'S WHY THIS, THIS WHOLE THING WITH THE GRANTS IS, IS HARD TO TRACK AND IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW. BUT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT TO A LITTLE BIT EASIER, EASIER WAY TO LOOK AT IT. AND IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE CMP AND THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT SIDE OF THINGS, THE CMP LAYS OUT YOUR ACTIONS. WHEN THIS DECISION WAS MADE BY THE BOARD, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CMP, AND SO WE WERE BEING ASKED TO TAKE POSITIONS ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ACROSS THE WATERSHED WITH NO FOUNDATION TO POINT TO OF YES, THIS PROJECT WILL DO THIS OR NO, THIS PROJECT WON'T DO THIS. AND SO IT ALSO BECAME A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM DIFFERENT COUNCILS AND JURISDICTIONS BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON PROJECTS AND OTHER PEOPLE'S JURISDICTION WITHOUT ANY FOUNDATIONAL DIRECTION. AND SO THAT WAS DECIDED BY THE BOARD AT THE TIME IN THE SITUATION THAT WE WERE IN, THE BOARD HASN'T ASKED TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN YET, BUT THAT'S WITHIN THE BOARD'S DECISION TO CHANGE. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THE WORDING IN THAT BOOK, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU AND I DISCUSSED. SO I DON'T KNOW, IS CAN THAT BE MASSAGED? CAN WE INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THE SEWER AND THE DIRT ROADS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND THEY WERE WORKING ON LONG BEFORE I EVER GOT HERE? AND OF COURSE, BILL DOZIER HAS DONE THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THIS PATH. AND I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE TO DROP THE BALL ON ANY OF THAT OR OR NOT BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THAT DONE. AND THEN THE ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR US TO? PUT IN THE POT? AND CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN START THINKING ABOUT IT? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE. WELL, NOW WE GET THE ANSWER. WE'RE GOING TO WAIT ANOTHER MEETING AND ANOTHER MEETING, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO DELAY YOU GETTING THE FUNDING. IF EVERYONE, YOU KNOW WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT FUNDING TO YOU, I WANT YOU TO GET IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. SO DON'T BE SHY. TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE MEETING AND HOW MUCH IT IS AND WHERE YOU CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER, SO THAT THEY CAN BE THINKING ABOUT THAT WITH ALL OF THIS OTHER. AND WE CAN GET SOMEWHERE QUICKER. FIRST, THE WORDING IN THE CMP SEPTIC TO SEWER IS INCLUDED. SEDIMENTATION WHICH WOULD ADDRESS THE PAVED ROADS IS INCLUDED AS WELL. THERE'S AVENUES TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THAT. THE PASS IS INCLUDED IN THE HYDRODYNAMIC SIDE OF THINGS. IN GOAL FIVE OF THE WATER AND SEDIMENT QUALITY AND QUANTITY GOAL. SO THOSE ARE INCLUDED IF YOU MIGHT BE REFERRING TO THE NON-ADVOCACY WORDS THAT ARE IN THE CMP, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON YOUR DEFINITION OF ADVOCACY. THAT WAS MORE OF WE'RE NOT YOUR WATCHDOGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME HERE AND TELL YOU YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, OR YOU SHOULDN'T DEVELOP A CERTAIN PLOT OF LAND BECAUSE IT HAS A WETLAND. THAT'S NOT THE ROLE OF THE ESTUARY PROGRAM. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT NON-ADVOCACY TERM IS REFERRING TO, BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A WATCHING A WATCHING ENTITY. WE'RE A COLLABORATIVE ENTITY THAT WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER. SO IF THERE'S A PLOT OF LAND IDENTIFIED FOR DEVELOPMENT AND YOU ALL COME TO US FOR COMMENT OR QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IMPACT THAT MIGHT HAVE, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU SOME OF THE SCIENCE TO GIVE YOU AN INFORMED INFORMATION FOR YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT THAT DECISION ISN'T AT THE ESTUARY PROGRAM LEVEL. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ALLOCATION. SO WE TOOK THE POPULATION ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS OF 2020, 2020, I BELIEVE 2024 MAYBE IS THE NEW UPDATED ONE. AND THEN. YEAH, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT TIERING THAT SO CERTAIN POPULATIONS OR CERTAIN CITIES THAT HAVE LESS THAN 5000 PEOPLE ARE AT A OR LESS THAN 10,000 PEOPLE ARE AT A $10,000 ALLOCATION. ANYONE ABOVE THAT IS AN INCREASED ALLOCATION. AND SO FOR THE BAY COUNTY, THE ALLOCATION REQUEST WOULD BE [00:55:03] $50,000. SO THE ONLY THING THAT WORRIES ME IS HOW YOU CAME TO THAT NUMBER. IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVEN'T FINISHED THIS BUDGET. AND I WOULD HATE FOR YOU TO SAY, OKAY, BAY COUNTY, WE NEED 50,000. AND THEN IT TURNS OUT AFTER WE FINISH ALL OF THESE NUMBERS, WHICH THE NUMBERS NEVER LIE, THEY ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH. SO IF WE IF WE FIND OUT YOU NEEDED 75,000, THEN YOU GOT WE HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING. OR MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED BUT 40. SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAYBE LET'S WAIT TILL WE GET ALL OF THE NUMBERS ON THE PAPER, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW FOR SURE AND, AND BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT, WHAT IS THAT MONEY BEING USED FOR. THAT IS FOR YOUR UNRESTRICTED FUNDING, RIGHT? YES. AND THEN AS WE GET GRANTS IN. SO IT'S DESIGNED TO KIND OF GIVE A CUSHION BUT NOT FUND THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. AND SO IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE BANK BECAUSE OF GRANTS AND WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN GRANTS, THEN SOME OF THOSE FUNDS COULD BE THEN PRIORITIZED FOR PROJECTS OR PUTTING DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TOGETHER THAT WOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE POLICY BOARD. SO YES, I THINK THAT WAS ALL I HAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS HELPFUL, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US GET THROUGH THIS. ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. COMMISSIONER HATFIELD, I KNOW YOU TEXTED THAT YOU STILL HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO CLAIRE AND ROBERT PRETTY MUCH CLARIFIED EVERYTHING I NEEDED, BUT. I DO AGREE WITH WHAT CLAIRE SAID. YOU KNOW, WE ABSOLUTELY MUST DEFINE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS MONEY, WHERE IT'S GOING, WHAT THIS BUDGET IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND ALSO TOO, YOU KNOW, BOB SAID IT AND CLAIRE SAID IT WAS HUGE. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.Y BILL DOZIER I MEAN, MY GOODNESS, WE HAVE WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO ENTER SOMETHING THAT THAT OUR HANDS ARE TIED ANY MORE THAN THEY ARE ALREADY WITH, WITH DEP AND ALL THE OTHER OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT ARE KEEPING US FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PAST. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T REALLY GOING TO TAKE SIDES. OR MAYBE YOU WILL, MAYBE YOU WON'T. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR OUR COUNTY. AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE EACH PASS OPEN UP ONE DAY AND DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO HINDER. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE. ALL RIGHT, MR. CROSBY, YOU THINK I'M GOOD? NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, DOCTOR GRAHAM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ANY OTHER CONVERSATION AMONG STAFF FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT OR DOES THE COUNTY MANAGER ACTUALLY HAVE A REPORT? NO. THAT'S OUR THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE WE WANTED TO BRING UP FROM STAFF. BUT FROM WHAT WAS SAID, I WILL GLEAN THAT STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH DOCTOR GRAHAM, AMONG OTHERS. AND I SEE TWO ISSUES HERE, ONE BEING THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRING THAT BACK. IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF YOU COME TO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WE'LL BE SURE THOSE ALL THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, BUT INDEPENDENT. AND REGARDLESS OF THAT DESIGNATION, THERE'S STILL A FUNDING ISSUE. SO TO COMMISSIONER P'S POINT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH DOCTOR GRAHAM AND WE WILL BRING YOU ALL THOSE NUMBERS IN. AT YOUR DISCRETION. WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO A COMMISSION MEETING. BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FROM STAFF. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT, WE'RE ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. START WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER CROSBY. WELL, LOOKS LIKE WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL, SUCCESSFUL WEEKEND AT THE BEACH WITH GULF COAST JAM. A LOT OF VISITORS HERE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT FOOTPRINT IS LARGE. WE FELT IT INTO TOWN. I FELT IT AT MY RESTAURANT. GOOD WEEKEND. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A SUCCESSFUL, SAFE SUMMER SEASON AND THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER HATFIELD. HOW'S THAT WEATHER? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. 41 DEGREES THIS MORNING WHEN I WOKE UP. WYOMING IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN BAY COUNTY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. I'M READY TO BE HOME AND YOU GET TO DRIVE BACK. DRIVE, SIR. DRIVE BACK. TODAY. WE HAD SOME BETS ON THAT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, PEACE. I REALLY I REALLY DON'T THINK I HAVE MUCH TODAY. WE HAD A 100 YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY PARTY OVER ON MEMORIAL DAY. MISS ARMS, YOU GUYS SIGNED SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS SO PROUD OF. I WAS GOING TO [01:00:05] TRY TO FIND A PICTURE OF THE BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR YOU TO SEE, BUT SHE WAS ELEGANT AND JUST ADORABLE. AND SHE GAVE EACH YOU, ON HER HER BEAUTIFUL BIRTHDAY GIFT. AND SO JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW PROUD I WAS TO BE A PART OF HER BIRTHDAY. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD TODAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, SIR. JUST A FEW THINGS I WANT TO THANK OUR BACON AND VETERANS SERVICES FOR THE INCREDIBLE MEMORIAL SERVICE THAT THEY PUT ON MEMORIAL DAY. VERY HOT DAY. AND ANYWAY, IT WAS AN HONOR TO BE THERE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN FOR BEING THERE AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY WHO DIED FIGHTING FOR THIS COUNTRY, ALLOWING US TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BE HERE TODAY. SO GREAT DAY. THIS IS THAT DREADED TIME OF YEAR. WE REMIND EVERYONE IT IS HURRICANE SEASON, SO IT IS TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT YOUR SUPPLIES TOGETHER, YOUR LIST TOGETHER, OR YOUR IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS TOGETHER. AND OUR ANNUAL. PLEASE SIGN UP FOR ALERT BAY. ALERT BAY GIVES YOU LOTS OF INFORMATION. YOU CAN GET OVERLOADED WITH INFORMATION, SO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SIGN UP FOR BECAUSE YOU CAN GET THE TEXT, THE EMAIL, THE HOUSE PHONE, ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES OF GETTING INFORMATION. BUT PLEASE SIGN UP FOR ALERT BAY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET ALL THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN. LASTLY, YEP, YOU CAN TELL SUMMER'S HERE IT IS BUSY GULF COAST JAM WAS GOING ON. DOLLY PARTON'S PIRATE DINNER THEATER OPENED UP SEATS ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE, SO THERE WAS LOTS AND LOTS OF TRAFFIC AT THAT BEACH AND THAT IT DID SPILL INTO TOWN. SO SEASON IS UPON US AND HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYS THE WEATHER. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU ALL AND I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. SO THAT IS TODAY'S MEETING I AM CONCERNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.