[CALL TO ORDER]
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          CALL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR JUNE 17TH TO ORDER. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. 
          YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. THIS MORNING WE HAVE PASTORIEL CHERRY WITH JENKS AVENUE, CHURCH OF CHRIST FOR THE INVOCATION AND FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY ANTHONY WORKMAN WITH OUR VETERANS SERVICES DIVISION. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN. LET'S PRAY. OUR GRACIOUS AND LOVING CREATOR, OUR FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A BEAUTIFUL DAY, FOR ALLOWING US TO LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE AMONG BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE, AND I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THIS MEETING. I THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AND FOR THESE COMMISSIONERS AND THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE THINGS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT UP PROJECTS AND THE WAY THAT OUR TAX MONEY WILL BE SPENT. I PRAY THAT IT WILL. IT WILL BE A MEETING THAT IS CONDUCTED IN PEACE AND WITH PURPOSE. I PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, WHO LIVE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AS WE BEGIN THE SUMMER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO COME AND VISIT OUR BEACHES AND OUR OUR SPACE, THAT WE'LL BE GOOD HOSTS AND THAT THEY'LL BE SAFE AND ENJOY THEIR TIME. FATHER, HELP US TO HONOR YOU WITH THE WAY THAT WE LIVE OUR LIVES AND CONDUCT OUR SPEECH AND OUR ACTIONS. I THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR YOUR SON, JESUS. AND IT'S IN HIS NAME I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS 
          [APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]
OR DELETIONS? NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. SIR. CAN I GET A MOTION TO SECOND MOTION A SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. 
          COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. BRADFORD. 
          [PRESENTATIONS]
YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NEXT, WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS BY COMMISSIONER CROSBY. 220 YEAR SERVICE AWARDS. 000. I'D LIKE TO ASK PAUL BOUCHER AND CHRISTY CARTER. COME DOWN, PLEASE. COME. UP IF YOU. SO WE'LL START WITH CHRISTY. CHRISTY CARTER BEGAN HER CAREER WITH BAY COUNTY IN 2005 AS A STAFF ASSISTANT, AND HAS SINCE ADVANCED TO HER ROLE OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE SPECIALIST FOR THE SOLID WASTE DIVISION. IN THIS CAPACITY, SHE MANAGES THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITY AND OVERSEES ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING AT THE STEEL FIELD LANDFILL. OUTSIDE OF WORK, CHRISTY IS AN AVID SCUBA DIVER, OPERATES A SMALL FARM, AND IS A FORMER VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER. SHE BRINGS CRITICAL LIFE SAVING SKILLS TO HER ROLE. 
          KNOWN TO KNOWN AS THE GO TO PERSON AT STEEL FIELD, LANDFILL AND EMERGENCY IN EMERGENCIES, HER QUICK THINKING AND TRAINING HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ASSISTING NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS, FROM COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LANDFILL CUSTOMERS, DURING URGENT SITUATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. SIR. PAUL SHANE JOINED BAY COUNTY'S BUILDER SERVICE DIVISION ON JUNE 17TH, 2005 AS AN INSPECTOR. IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE HE ATTAINED HIS PLAN EXAMINER LICENSES AND WORKED ON BOTH INSPECTIONS AND PLAN REVIEWS. PAUL SERVED AS A LEAD ON FSU DORMITORIES. IN THAT WAY, HE HANDLED IN THE WAY THAT HE HANDLED THAT PROJECT WAS PERFECT, AND REPRESENTATION OF HIS EXEMPLARY WORK ETHIC AND INITIATIVE. OVER THE YEARS, PAUL'S HAS EXPANDED HIS KNOWLEDGE OF FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND CURRENTLY HOLDS A STANDARD LICENSE IN ALL SPECIALTY AREAS WITHIN THE BC BUILDING CODE ADMINISTRATION AND INSPECTION BOARD, INCLUDING HIS STANDARD BUILDING CODE ADMINISTRATION LICENSE. PAUL STRIVES TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE TO ALL HE ENCOUNTERS. HE IS DEFINITELY SEEN AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AND SHARES HIS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE BOTH INTERNALLY WITHIN THE DIVISION AND EXTERNALLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT PAUL WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO THE DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL POSITION WITH THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. NO SEPARATE PICTURES. OKAY. HERE WE GO. THERE WAS A COUPLE READY. ONE. TWO 
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31012314123 OKAY. WHAT CAN I SAY. YOU HAVE YOU WANT TO CHANGE ONE TWO THREE. BLACK 1123. OKAY. 
          [PUBLIC COMMENT]
ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY MATTER THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA IS THREE MINUTES. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MICHAEL STEINBERG. MY ADDRESS IS 5418 PINE TREE, PANAMA CITY, ON THE ON THE BEACH SIDE AS I KNOW. 
          CHAIRMAN MOORE, THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL THAT I SENT YESTERDAY VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING. I THINK THERE WERE OTHER I SENT IT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. THIS WAS IN REGARDS TO ITEM 21 ON THE AGENDA, SPECIFICALLY THE $100 FEE FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL RESPONSE. IT SAYS MANAGING AGENT, AS MY EMAIL CLEARLY SET OUT, THAT TERM APPEARS NOWHERE IN ANY OF THE ORDINANCES, SO IT'S A BIT AMBIGUOUS, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS RESPONSIBLE PARTY. IN ADDITION TO THE LENGTHY LEGAL OBJECTIONS THAT I HAVE TO THAT FEE. IT'S A COMMON SENSE ISSUE. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS TO HAVE IT CONVENIENT FOR SOMEONE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. SO FORCING AN OWNER TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $100 IF THEIR PREVIOUS RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB, IT'S SORT OF PUNITIVE. YOU'RE DISCOURAGING THOSE OWNERS FROM CHANGING TO SOMEONE THAT'S BEING LESS EFFECTIVE. AND I THINK I OUTLINED SOME OF THAT REASON IN MY EMAIL. SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING TO CHANGE THEIR SIGNAGE AND PAY FOR THAT AND, YOU KNOW, DO ALL THESE OTHER SORT OF THINGS AND HIRE ANOTHER PERSON WHEN SOMEONE ELSE WASN'T DOING THE JOB RIGHT, MAKING THEM PAY AN ADDITIONAL FEE? I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE BEST OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PATRICE COUCH. I'M AT 2319 JUDSON STREET IN LYNN HAVEN. I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 REGARDING THE REGISTRATION OF SHORT TERM VACATION RENTALS. MY HUSBAND AND I JUST OWN ONE SMALL HOUSE AT THE WEST END OF THE BEACH WHERE WE USED TO RESIDE, AND WE OFFER THAT TO GUESTS THROUGH AIRBNB. AND AFTER YOUR ORDINANCE TO GET THE REGISTRATIONS IN AUGUST 2023, I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, BOUGHT MY NEW EQUIPMENT. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN REGISTERED TO PAY MY TAXES, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A HOTEL LICENSE, SO I GOT THAT THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND DID ALL OF THE THINGS. AND I WHEN I CALLED THE COUNTY TO FIND OUT HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING CERTIFIED, I ENDED UP TALKING TO SOMEONE AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND EMAIL YOUR APPLICATION. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO PAY AT THIS TIME. SO I EMAILED MY FULL PACKET ON IN JANUARY OF 2024, AND NO ONE FOLLOWED UP EITHER TO MY EMAIL OR FOLLOWED UP TO SCHEDULE AN INSPECTION. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT MADE, YOU KNOW, DUE DILIGENT EFFORT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. BUT I THINK WHILE YOU'RE STANDING UP THE PROGRAM, IT WAS UNCLEAR EXACTLY WHO WAS GOING TO DO WHAT. I KNOW THAT IT TAKES SOME TIME TO GET GOING, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT PERHAPS YOU TABLE THAT ITEM TODAY AND TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT MAY ALREADY BE IN THE SYSTEM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED FOR AN INSPECTION TO MAKE THIS EFFECTIVE TOMORROW, AND I WOULD HAVE TO PAY A $500 PENALTY BECAUSE NO ONE EVER GOT BACK. I JUST I'M NOT SURE THAT. YOU KNOW, I HEARD ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE LOCAL NEWS. I DON'T RECALL EVER RECEIVING A LETTER OR ANYTHING IN THE MAIL OR ANY EMAIL LIKE, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT HAVE TRIED TO COMPLY AND THEY JUST HAVEN'T WEREN'T SURE, LIKE SOMEONE GOING TO I EXPECTED SOMEONE TO PUT MY APPLICATION IN THE QUEUE AND GET BACK AND SCHEDULE THE INSPECTION, AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED. SO I WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION WHILE YOU DECIDE ON THAT ITEM. AND ALSO I THINK $100 IF I, YOU KNOW, I MANAGE AND TAKE CARE OF IT MYSELF. BUT IF I WANTED TO TURN TO A MANAGEMENT COMPANY, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY AND HAVE A RESPONSIBLE PARTY, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE SIGNAGE AND ALL OF 
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THAT, MAYBE YOU COULD CONSIDER REDUCING THAT. WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OF $100 TO SOMETHING LIKE $25. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
RIGHT. SEEING NONE. CONSENT AGENDA. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. 
          UNDER CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING UNDER THE CLERK OF COURTS. ITEM ONE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AND INVENTORY DELETIONS, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS AND APPROVED INVENTORY DELETIONS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE. ITEM TWO, SPECIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE SHERIFF'S REQUEST FOR EXPENDITURES OF MONIES FROM THE SPECIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND. ITEM THREE FY 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET UNDER COLLABORATIVE SERVICES ITEM FOU, BUS PROCUREMENT AMENDMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION APPROVING A MODIFICATION OF THE FY 25 BUDGET EQUIPMENT PURCHASE LINE ITEM AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO AMEND THE BUDGET LINE ITEM DESCRIPTION FOR FIXED ROUTE ACCOUNT 5606401. CHANGING THE PLANNED ACQUISITION FROM ONE 30 FOOT TO 45 FOOT. FIXED ROUTE BUS TO FOR TRANSIT BUSSES UNDER 30 FOOT IN LENGTH UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM FIVE RELEASE OF DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THE GIRLS INC OF BAY COUNTY PROPERTY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD RELEASE ALL COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE PARCEL OWNED BY GIRLS INCORPORATED TO BAY COUNTY AT 1100 FOUNTAIN AVENUE IN PANAMA CITY, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE AND RECORD ANY INSTRUMENTS NECESSARY OR CONVENIENT TO EFFECTUATE THAT WAIVER. ITEM SIX FT M LETTER ON FEMA PROJECT 83475. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED A LETTER FROM STAFF TO RESOLVE THE FIRST APPEAL TO FEMA PROJECT. 83475 PROJECT WORKSHEET W 16 ZERO FIVE UNDER EMERGENCY SERVICES ITEM SEVEN STRIKE RELEASE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN STRYKER AND BAY COUNTY FOR THE LEASE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES EQUIPMENT. ITEM EIGHT JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT COUNTYWIDE FY 24 ALLOCATION APPROVAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE 51 LETTER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE EDWARD EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE GRANT COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM FUNDS UNDER GENERAL SERVICES. ITEM NINE, CONTRACT 25-11 JANITORIAL SERVICES. CONTRACT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT 25-11 JANITORIAL SERVICES WITH J AND H JANITORIAL COMPANY, LLC, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES. ITEM TEN INSURANCE AND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS CONSULTANT SERVICES STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD CONTRACT 2535 INSURANCE AND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS CONSULTANT SERVICES TO THE TOP RANKED FIRM, GALLAGHER BENEFIT SERVICES, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER OUTSIDE AGENCIES. ITEM 11 CAREERSOURCE GULF COAST BUDGET STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CAREERSOURCE GULF COAST FY 2526 BUDGET, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. ITEM 12 CAREERSOURCE GULF COAST INDIVIDUAL TRAINING ACCOUNT WAIVER APPLICATIONS. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE THE STATE INDIVIDUAL TRAINING ACCOUNT WAIVER APPLICATION AS REQUIRED BY THE FLORIDA COMMERCE AND CAREERSOURCE FLORIDA POLICY ITEM 13 CAREERSOURCE GULF COAST ONE STOP OPERATOR AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE ONE STOP OPERATOR AGREEMENT FOR CAREERSOURCE GULF COAST TO ACT AS ITS OWN ONE STOP OPERATOR. ITEM 14 FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE CONTRACT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE A NEW FIVE YEAR CONTRACT RENEWAL FOR THE RATE AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. CONTRACT FOR THE STATE TO PAY TWO THIRDS AND THE COUNTY TO PAY ONE THIRD OF THE COST OF THE SHERIFF SERVING PROCESS AND CHILD SUPPORT CASES UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM 15, MAGNOLIA RIDGE PHASE TWO PLAT APPROVAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF MAGNOLIA RIDGE PHASE TWO SUBDIVISION AND AUTHORIZE THE CLERK TO RECORD THE PERFORMANCE BOND. ITEM 16 BRANCH DRIVE PROJECT CHANGE ORDERS AND SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER TO EMERALD COAST SITE CONSTRUCTION FOR INCREASED CONSTRUCTION COSTS DUE TO ADDITIONAL SUBSOIL EXCAVATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $364,145.69 AND APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER OF $92,025 TO MOTT MACDONALD FOR ADDITIONAL CEI SERVICES, AND RATIFY THE FDOT SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT AND RESOLUTION, ADDING AN ADDITIONAL $284,017.61 IN GRANT FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT. ITEM 17 CARTER LUMBER LAND SWAP APPROVAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD DECLARE THE PROPERTY REFERENCED BELOW AS SURPLUS, AND APPROVE THE RURAL PROPERTY EXCHANGE CONTRACT BETWEEN CARTER LUMBER AND BAY COUNTY, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CLOSING DOCUMENTS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE UNDER RISK MANAGEMENT. ITEM 18 CDL LEASE AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A FIVE YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, FLORIDA BUILDERS TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION AND GOLDEN INK TO PROVIDE CDL 
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TRAINING TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES UNDER UTILITY SERVICES. 19 RATE AND EVALUATION CONSULTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD CONTRACT AWARD CONTRACT 2529 RATE AND EVALUATION CONSULTING TO RAFTELIS FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS, INC. AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
          ITEM 20 MILITARY POINT. ADVANCED WATER. ADVANCED WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES. SENATE BILL 64, PHASE TWO. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR MILITARY POINT ADVANCED WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES. SENATE BILL 64 RECHARGE WELL DESIGN AND FACILITY UPGRADES TO DEWBERRY ENGINEERS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,395,590, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. 
          YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. 
          [Budget Office]
MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 21. AND APOLOGIES TO Y'ALL. I SHOULD HAVE LET Y'ALL KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS NOW AND BE TALKING ABOUT IT AS THE BOARD. 
          BUT THIS IS FISCAL YEAR 25. FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE AMENDMENT. MISS MIRANDA GRIFFIN IS SHE'S COMING UP. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FY 25 FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE AMENDMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS THE BOARD APPROVE AMENDING FY 2025 FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE REGARDING THE ADDITION OF BEACH BONFIRE PERMITS, PENALTIES FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL NONCOMPLIANCE, AND RESIDENTIAL PARKING GUIDELINES. IF THE BOARD WOULD, I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER NOT NOT TAKING ANY ACTION TODAY ON THE $100 FEE. I'D LIKE ADDITIONAL MORE TIME WITH STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT THE REST OF THOSE FEES THAT ARE ON THAT SCHEDULE WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER TODAY. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE MEMO AND THE ATTACHMENTS FOR MODIFYING AND AMENDING OUR FY 25 FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE. MOST OF THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE FROM EMERGENCY SERVICES, AS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. WE HAVE NON COMPLIANCE FEES FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE REPEATEDLY RESCHEDULING THEIR INSPECTIONS, AND THE DELAY IS CAUSING SOME ISSUES. SO THERE HAVE BEEN NONCOMPLIANCE FEES PUT IN FOR THAT. ALSO WE HAVE WE ARE PUTTING IN BEACH BONFIRE FEES FOR THOSE TO BE MONITORED AND TRACKED. CURRENTLY THERE'S I GUESS NOT A PROPER MONITORING PROGRAM FOR THAT. SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO MONITOR THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S DOING AS THEY SHOULD BE WITH THE FIRES. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO EMERGENCY SERVICES, WE ARE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE FOR BAY COUNTY RESIDENTS PARKING. WHEN WE FIRST APPROVED PARKING, THERE WAS AN $80 PARKING FEE, AND THAT FEE HAD LANGUAGE. AS FAR AS HOW MANY VEHICLES COULD GO WITH A PASS. WHEN WE WENT TO FREE PARKING, ALL OF THAT LANGUAGE WAS TAKEN OUT AND WE ARE NOW ADDING LANGUAGE BACK FOR GUIDELINES ON HOW MANY VEHICLES A RESIDENT CAN HAVE UNDER THEIR FREE PARKING. AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR MIRANDA. MY QUESTION IS PROBABLY FOR THE CHIEF. IF I COULD. WELL, CHIEF LONGWORTH IS APPROACHING, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO MRS. COUCH'S CONCERNS. THE FEES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THESE FINES ARE FOR WHAT WE WOULD DEFINE AS BAD ACTORS. SO APPLICANTS WHO ARE, IN HER CASE, WHO HAVE EITHER HAD A CHALLENGE WITH STAFF NOT BEING RESPONSIVE OR PROBLEMS WITH THE PAYMENT PORTAL WHEN THERE'S BEEN AN HONEST, GOOD FAITH ATTEMPT TO TRY TO COME IN COMPLIANCE. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE FEES APPLYING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          WHAT WE'VE NOTICED OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OF THIS PROGRAM IS WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT, GAMING THE SYSTEM. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CANNOT GO INTO A PROPERTY AND CONDUCT AN INSPECTION WHILE IT'S RENTED. SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCED PROPERTY MANAGERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WILL CONTINUOUSLY KEEP THESE PROPERTIES RENTED OUT AND NOT ALLOW US TO GET IN THERE AND CONDUCT OUR OUR STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THESE LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS DONE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY BROADLY, IT'S BEEN RECOGNIZED THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS WITH THIS PROGRAM. IT'S NOT PERFORMED AT MY TO MY EXPECTATIONS. OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THE CHIEF HAS MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAT I THINK WILL BRING SOME IMPROVEMENT OVER THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS THAT THE PUBLIC WILL SEE TO MISS COUCH'S ANOTHER ISSUE SHE BROUGHT UP WITH THE PAYMENT PORTAL THAT HAS THAT WAS A PROBLEM UNTIL ABOUT 60 DAYS AGO, 60, MAYBE EVEN 90 DAYS AGO, WHERE THAT GOT RECTIFIED. AND ANOTHER CHALLENGE WE'RE HAVING IS THAT TO GET THE INSPECTION SCHEDULED, NOW THAT THE PORTAL IS UP AND RUNNING, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE INSPECTION BEFORE YOU CAN GET ONE SCHEDULED. SO WE ARE HAVING THAT CHALLENGE TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE FILING THEIR APPLICATION FOR INSPECTION BUT NOT PAYING THE FEE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AS 
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WELL. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF, HE'S HE'S AVAILABLE. 
          GENTLEMEN. MA'AM. MR. CHAIRMAN. WELL GOOD. HEY, CHIEF. GOOD MORNING. HEY GOOD MORNING SIR. 
          ON THE. WE DID GET THE EMAIL FROM THE GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE HAD THE SAME QUESTION. JUST CURIOUS ON THE $100 FEE. SO, YOU KNOW, PLAYERS IN THE MANAGEMENT BUSINESS, AND SOMEHOW SHE TAKES OVER 100 HOMES. SO WE GOT TO CHARGE $100 FOR EACH OF THOSE HOMES. IS THERE A FORMULA FOR THIS OR WHERE WE GOT THIS. SO WHAT WE KIND OF LOOKED AT WAS IS THE COST OF WHAT IT'S COSTING US TO PERFORM THE INSPECTIONS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REALIZING IN REVENUE AND DOING THAT. SO IT COST US OVER A HALF $1 MILLION TO EFFECTUATE THIS PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 70 ISH THOUSAND AND COLLECTED REVENUES FOR THAT. SO THERE'S A HUGE DELTA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COLLAPSE. AND SO PART OF THAT WAS IS LOOKING AT WHERE COULD WE DO THOSE DIFFERENT DELTAS. AND SO PART OF THAT IS, IS WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR NEW MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AS FAR AS FOR TRACKING ALL OF THIS STUFF, THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR RENT FOR WHERE OUR STAFF IS AT. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK AND SO THEIR SALARIES AS WELL. SO WE CAME UP WITH WHAT WE FELT WAS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT OF $100 TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPRINT THINGS. WE HAVE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, NOW ENFORCEMENT BOOKS, YOU KNOW, PENALTY BOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE PROGRAM THAT ARE NOT BEING EFFECTUATED BY FEES AT THIS POINT. PART OF THAT IS, IS BECAUSE THE PROGRAM WAS INEFFECTIVELY MANAGED. SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME REVENUES THAT THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECOVER. BUT THERE IS THAT DELTA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO THE IDEA WAS, IS THAT WE WOULD START EARLY AT THAT. AND THEN AS WE STARTED TO CLOSE THAT DELTA DOWN, WE WOULD ALSO ADJUST THAT THAT FEE LOWER WAS THE IDEA THAT WE CAME UP WITH, SIR, JUST TO CHANGE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN CLAIRE'S DOING IT NOW, I'M GOING TO DO IT. WHAT IS THE IS IT TEN HOURS TO MAKE THAT CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM, SIR? NO. SO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS WE'D HAVE TO GO OUT. WE'D HAVE TO TAKE AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE, THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY DONE. WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM. WE'D HAVE TO REDO ALL THE PERMITTING ASPECTS OF THINGS, GET THOSE THINGS DELIVERED. SO THE VEHICLE, THE GAS, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAME INTO THAT. AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST THAT ONE SINGULAR ITEM. IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO GATHER ALL OF THAT DELTA THAT WE'RE MISSING. AND THAT WAS ONE WAY, INSTEAD OF INCREASING. SO WHAT WE DID DO IS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FINES AND THE INSPECTION FEES, MOST OF THE STATE IS DOING FEES BASED ON LIKE EITHER SQUARE FOOTAGE OR NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. OURS IS A FLAT RATE FEE AND SO IT TAKES MORE TIME TO DO TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOMS. RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE IT'S MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO THE IDEA WAS, IS HOW DO WE TRY TO KEEP AS MANY OF THE FEES AND OR FINES LOW, BUT YET STILL BE ABLE TO EFFECTUATE THE PROGRAM IN A FINANCIALLY ACCEPTABLE, ACCEPTABLE MANNER? AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THAT SPECIFIC FEE WAS IS TRYING TO HELP ADJUST THAT. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ADJUST THAT LOWER WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE IS, IS WE'RE JUST TRYING TO NOT GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOW TAKING EVEN MORE REVENUE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO TRY TO SUPPORT THIS. THE OTHER QUESTION, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THE OTHER ONE IS SO IN THIS INSTANCE. SO IF I DECIDE I WANT TO GO BUY A BEACH HOUSE, MAKE IT A RENTAL PROPERTY, I'VE NEVER DONE THIS. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW. 
          WHAT'S THE PROCESS? I MEAN, HOW DOES SOMEONE KNOW TO COME TO YOU TO GO TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE REGISTERED AND PAYING THEIR TAXES? I MEAN, THERE'S A LONG PROCESS, BUT WE GOT TO SOMEHOW MAKE THIS EASY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OR WHERE TO GO BECAUSE THEY COULD BE NONCOMPLIANT, NOT EVEN KNOW IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER CASES. 
          SO YES. SO I AGREE 100%. SO LET ME SAY THAT OFF THE BAT, WHEN THIS PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED BEFORE I GOT HERE, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, IS THAT THEY HAD ALREADY SENT OUT POSTCARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO ALL OF THOSE. LATER I FOUND OUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO WHEN MR. MICA SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT 60 TO 90 DAYS WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND WE ARE GOING TO ACT LIKE WE'RE STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO AND WORKING FORWARD. THE WOMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER, SHE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK, LOOK AT THE EMAIL. SHE SUBMITTED HER APPLICATION AND NO ONE JUST DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. SO WE MADE PERSONNEL CHANGES IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TO EFFECTUATE THE PROPER MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROGRAM. AND WE'VE ALSO KIND OF REASSIGNED SOME DUTIES AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE, THE UPPER LEVELS OF WHO'S GOING TO HELP OVERSEE THIS PROGRAM. BUT IT IS OUR FAULT, ULTIMATELY THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. AND SO AT NO POINT IF ANYBODY HAS ATTEMPTED IN GOOD FAITH, THEY'RE NOT SHE IS NOT GOING TO GET A FINE. I GUARANTEE THAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT WAS ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF FINES, THINGS WILL COME TO MY DESK BEFORE THEY'RE SIGNED OFF ON TO ENSURE THAT WE AS A DEPARTMENT, DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND OUR FAIR WORK TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE THE BAD ACTOR, NOT US. I JUST WONDERED IF IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS WITH EITHER THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OR THE TAX COLLECTOR. SOMEHOW, WHEN A SALE TRANSACTION HAPPENS STILL TO NOTIFY THEM. THAT WAY THEY KNOW, HEY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS INTO A RENTAL PROPERTY, MAKE SURE YOU FOLLOW 
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THESE STEPS OR CONTACT THESE. I JUST WONDER IF WE COLLABORATIVELY NEED TO WORK, SO THERE MAY BE A WAY FOR US TO REACH OUT TO THOSE WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY DO, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THEIR DEEDS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WOULD CREATE THAT. PART OF THE ISSUE IS, IS IDENTIFYING THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OVER FOUR WE DON'T INSPECT. SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR LARGE CONDOMINIUMS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAVE THOSE. SO WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A SINGLE PROPERTY OR LESS OR FOUR OR LESS THING. SO WE COULD WORK WITH THEM AND ABSOLUTELY TRY TO HELP GUIDE THAT ON. WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS, IS A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST ARE NOT REGISTERING AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN REGISTERING TO PAY THEIR, THEIR BED TAX. AND SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE AS WELL. AND SO THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME UNIQUE WAYS THAT OUR STAFF HAS DEVELOPED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO TRY TO HELP DO THAT, WE JUST NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND SEE IF THAT WHAT, WHAT ROUTE THEY WOULD LIKE US TO GO ON THAT IF I IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE ONE SUGGESTION IS WE COULD WE COULD DO A PSA OKAY. DO PSA AND WE HAVE THE WEBSITE. BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IS THE WAY WE'RE REGULATED ON THIS OR OR PREEMPTED BY THE STATE FROM REGULATING. IT REALLY DOES FALL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BE RESPONSIBLE. SO MAYBE MAYBE WE COULD WORK WITH VALERIE TO DO SOME PSA AND GET JUST REGULARLY PUT THINGS OUT THERE. IF YOU'RE A VACATION RENTAL, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST GET IT OUT THERE ON ON THE AIRWAVES. I WANTED TO JUST GO BACK TO THIS $100 FEE AGAIN. NOW, IF IT'S A BRAND NEW PERSON THAT'S REGISTERING THEIR RENTAL, WHAT IS THE FEE FOR THAT? I'D HAVE TO GO BACK. BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 250. OKAY. SO THIS FEE, THE REGISTRATION MODIFICATION MANAGING AGENT $400. SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE I WANT TO GO BACK TO EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THE SIGNAGE IS NOTHING MORE THAN PUTTING, YOU KNOW, IN THE UNIT, IT'S GOT THE UNITS, PHONE NUMBER, WHOEVER THE MANAGING AGENT IS, WHETHER IT BE THE PROPERTY MANAGER OR THE OWNER, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S THE OWNER THEMSELVES OR THEY'VE HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO IT. SO THEY LITERALLY TYPE THEIR NAME ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND CHANGE THAT AND STICK IT BACK IN THE WINDOW OF THE CONDO. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO ON THEIR PART. SO WHAT IS IT THAT WE DO ON OUR PART JUST FOR THAT, THAT CAUSE, THAT COST $100? I MEAN, THEY AT THAT POINT SHOULD CALL YOU GUYS AND GIVE YOU A NEW PHONE NUMBER FOR THE EMERGENCY CONTACT. OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT IS IT WE'RE DOING? SO WE HAVE TO MANAGE THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FIRST OFF. SO WE HAVE TO BUILD ALL OF THAT. WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT INTO THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS A ONE TIME THING. THEN THEY HAVE TO GO IN, REGISTER THAT, THEN PAY THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, I THINK I THINK I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY FIRST REGISTER. I UNDERSTAND, MA'AM, I'M OKAY. I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THE CHANGE THAT IS MADE THAT SAYS JOHN SMITH WAS RENTING IT. NOW BILL JOHNSON'S RENTING IT. AND HERE'S HIS NEW PHONE NUMBER. YES, MA'AM. SO WE HAVE TO GO IN. SO THEY HAVE TO GO. THE WAY THE SYSTEM WILL WORK IS THROUGH COMMUNITY CONNECT, WHICH IS OUR NEW SYSTEM THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO THE PORTAL. THEY'LL GO IN, WE'LL HAVE TO VERIFY. THEY'LL ENTER THEIR INFORMATION, IT'LL COME IN. WE'LL HAVE TO THEN ENTER THAT INTO THE SYSTEM. RIGHT. STAFF WILL DO THAT. THEY'LL HAVE TO VERIFY THAT THAT'S AN ACCURATE THING. IF THEY'RE WITHIN A WINDOW, THEY'RE GOING TO THEN HAVE TO GO AND START SCHEDULING THEM FOR A REINSPECTION. OH CAN I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE? AND I'M NOT MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT IF THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR INSPECTION FOR THE YEAR, THEY PAID THE 250. THEY'VE GOTTEN IT JUST BECAUSE A NEW PERSON IS THE EMERGENCY CONTACT. IS THAT REQUIRING AN ENTIRELY NEW INSPECTION OF THE UNIT? NO, MA'AM. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A NEW INSPECTION UNIT. WE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IS, IS PEOPLE ARE CALLING UP AND CHANGING THEIR REGISTRATION, AND THEN WE HAVE TO CALL AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN ACTUAL PERSON THAT THEY'RE REGISTERING. RIGHT. IT'S BECAUSE I CAN SAY THAT IT'S JOHN SMITH AND JOHN SMITH MAY NOT EXIST. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE JUST CALLING THAT PHONE NUMBER THAT THEY'VE GIVEN YOU AND VERIFYING YOUR JOHN SMITH, AND YOU'RE RENTING THIS UNIT FOR THIS OWNER, CORRECT. THAT YOU'RE MANAGING THAT. SO WE'RE DOING THAT. BUT THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS BECAUSE ALL OF OUR RECORDS ARE KEPT NOW INSIDE OF AN ELECTRONIC SYSTEM. SO THERE IS A COST FOR US GLOBALLY TO DO THIS PROGRAM. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO INSTEAD OF RAISING THE INITIAL FEE AND THE REINSPECTION FEE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO KEEP THOSE COSTS LOWER BY HAVING AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT IF YOU TAKE AND MAKE A CHANGE. SO IF YOU'RE SAYING DOES IT COST $100 TO DO THAT ONE SPECIFIC FUNCTION? NO. BUT IF YOU TAKE THE GLOBAL PART OF THE PROGRAM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS. I UNDERSTAND. SO THE $250 THAT WE'RE DOING, THE INITIAL FEE, I BELIEVE IT'S 250. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK OR LESS. IS IT 250? SO THAT FEE IS THE FEE THAT YOUR YOUR GUY HAS TO GO OUT TO THE UNIT AND CHECK THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER, SPRINKLERS, MAKE SURE THAT. YES, MA'AM. FLAG. EVERYTHING IS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. SO DOES THAT FEE NOT ENCAPSULATE SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AT THAT TIME? IT DOES ENCAPSULATE ENCAPSULATE SOME OF THOSE FEES. YOU FEEL LIKE WE COULD LOWER THAT FEE A LITTLE BIT AND YOU GUYS WOULD STILL BE OKAY WITH THAT. SO AGAIN, THE DELTA IS QUITE DIFFERENT BETWEEN A HALF $1 MILLION AND ROUGHLY 70,000 THAT WE'VE COLLECTED. SO 
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ANYWHERE THAT WE CAN REALIZE NOW WE COULD ALSO. SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, MA'AM. WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT CHANGING TO A FORMULA WHERE INSTEAD OF DOING, YOU KNOW, A FLAT RATE OF 250, NO MATTER THE SIZE OF YOUR SPACE, A LOT OF PLACES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA DO IT BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. A LOT OF THOSE PLACES ARE CHARGING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 500 AND $1000 PER INSPECTION. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE DUE DILIGENCE TO KEEP THE FEES LOW, BUT YET STILL BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM WITHOUT FEES. WELL, TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY FINES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS SITUATION CORRECT. AND I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE DID. SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE POSSIBLY THAT, FOR INSTANCE, YOUR GUYS GO OUT, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER. IT TAKES THEM ABOUT TWO HOURS TO GET AN ELEVATOR, TO GO DO WHATEVER THEIR JOB IS. AND YOU GET UP THERE, THE DOOR IS LOCKED. NO ONE ANSWERS. THE PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP. YOUR CODE DOESN'T WORK, WHICH HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. THIS FIND THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE TO MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THAT MONEY. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT MIGHT MAKE UP FOR A LITTLE BIT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES? BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU, THE DOOR LOCK THAT DOESN'T WORK IS GOING TO HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. SO I THINK WITH THAT IN PLACE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE UP SOME OF THESE COSTS TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO, TO DO THAT. AND NOT ONLY NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SOME OF THIS, I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO FEED THEM TO DEATH, BUT I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME BEING BEING ON THE BEACH FROM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING, AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO TAKE THEIR HOUSE THAT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND RENT IT OUT. AND IT'S SPRING BREAK. THEY WERE RENTING THEM OUT. 20 PEOPLE AT THE TIME. THEY WERE NOT REGISTERED WITH THE DBPR. THEY HAD NOT REGISTERED TO DO THIS, ANY OF THIS. AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE TRIED TO GET THEM TO DO IT, THEY JUST SNUB THEIR NOSE. SO IT'S REALLY STARTED TO BE ALL ABOUT SAFETY. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF LOST THE WAY OF BECAUSE IT'S SAFETY FOR FIRE, IT'S SAFETY FOR FLAG WARNINGS FOR, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WITH THE DROWNINGS ON THE BEACH. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WE'RE TRYING TO FEED SOMEBODY TO DEATH. AND I THINK WE'VE LOST SIGHT OF WHY WE STARTED THE THING TO BEGIN WITH. BUT I DO NOT WANT US TO GET IN A, IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GRAB FOR EVERY PENNY. I THINK WE NEED TO RUN THE PROGRAM A LITTLE TIGHTER AND USE THE FINES THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE AND MAKE UP THE MONEY. SO WE SHOULD NEVER BE SO WAY FAR AHEAD OF THE FEES. WE'VE WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THE MATH WORK. SO. AND BOB, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS, BUT I'M JUST JUST $100. YEAH. I'M JUST I DON'T LIKE TO TABLE THINGS. I WANT US TO. WE'VE GOT THIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. I, I, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE FINES FOR QUITE A WHILE. I WANT TO GET THIS DONE AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOT TABLE IT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO LOWER THE FEE TO A, YOU KNOW, $35, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT MIGHT, MIGHT TAKE THE TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO TYPE THAT INFORMATION IN THERE AND DIAL THE PHONE NUMBER AND SEE IF THAT'S THE RIGHT PERSON. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. SO, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW YOU HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. GOOD MORNING CHIEF. 
          MORNING, SIR. A COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS THE BIGGEST REASON WHY WE HAVE THIS FINE IMPLEMENTED IS TO MAKE THE BAD ACTORS COMPLY. COMPLIANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR. TO SAVE LIVES DOWN THE ROAD. WE CHARGE INITIAL $250 FEE FOR PEOPLE TO PAY THIS. IS THERE A SLIDING SCALE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT DOING? POTENTIALLY A LOT LESS THAN 100 BUCKS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE REGISTERING ONLINE THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, THAT ARE SCHEDULED INSPECTIONS TO ENCOURAGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO COME FORWARD AND BE A PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH IS TRYING TO SAVE LIVES. ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE DO THIS IS TO SAVE INSURANCE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE RATINGS COMING IN, WE DON'T HAVE THESE THINGS IN PLAY, THEN IT COSTS ALL OF US MORE MONEY FOR OUR INSURANCE. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THESE INSPECTIONS. SO MY QUESTION IS I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS THING PASSED TODAY, LIKE CLAIRE SAID, BUT POSSIBLY LOOK AT THIS AS BRAND NEW GUY IN THE MARKET RENTING $250 INITIAL FEE. GREAT. YOU PAID IT. YOU'RE THE FIRST GUY UP WHEN THE DAY YOURS IS DUE, YOU'RE MAKING THE PHONE CALL. THE DAY BEFORE YOU GET IN THERE, GET SCHEDULED. YOU'RE NOT PAYING 100 BUCKS. MAYBE YOU'RE PAYING LESS THAN 50, MAYBE YOU'RE PAYING 35. BUT WHATEVER THE THAT IS, IN COMBINATION WITH THE GUYS THAT DON'T WANT TO DO THE JOB RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE ALL THIS WORK. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE BEHIND THAT. OKAY. WE CAN LOOK INTO ANYTHING, SIR. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I JUST HAD 
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ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON THE BEACH. BUYER. BEACH BONFIRE BURN PERMITS. YES. ON THAT. WE'VE GOT. I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THEM TO FILE. WE KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE BURNING, BUT IN OUR PENALTY SECTION, FIRST OFFENSE. I ASSUME THAT'S FOR SOMEONE WHO MAYBE DIDN'T GET A PERMIT. YES, SIR. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR SOMEONE THAT DIDN'T GET A PERMIT. 
          GENERALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND WE'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES THAT DO THIS AS WELL, OUR COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO THAT. GENERALLY, IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REPEATEDLY THAT THEY KNOW THE RULE. YOU TELL THEM ALL THE TIME. THEY EITHER USE IT AS A BUSINESS ON THE SIDE, AND SO THEY'RE DOING THAT. SO YES, IT WOULD BE A FIRST TIME PENALTY. GENERALLY MY STANCE IS, IS THAT FIRST TIME PENALTIES. IT'S KIND OF FOR THE PERSON THAT IS JUST BEING UNREASONABLE NOT COMPLYING. RIGHT. IF YOU'RE IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT YOUR FIRST TIME AND HEY, YOU DIDN'T KNOW AND LIKE MY STAFF IS GOING TO BE GRACIOUS IN THAT AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THIS AND EXPLAIN IT. IF YOU WERE THE PERSON THAT THERE IS NOW GOING TO BE YOUR BELLIGERENT, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE, THEY HAVE THAT MECHANISM TO SAY, OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THAT TYPE THING, THEN THEY CAN ISSUE THAT, FINE. AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT I DON'T WANT TO DO A PSA. HEY, YOU CAN GO PUT FIRES ON THE BEACH. I DON'T THINK WE WANT A FIRE BEHIND EVERYBODY'S HOUSE. BUT AGAIN, HOW DOES SOMEONE KNOW THEY GOT TO GET A PERMIT. YEAH. SO AGAIN THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECENTLY CHANGED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, PUSH OUT ESPECIALLY TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE BEACH. A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE WE'RE ON THE PROCESS WITH THAT NEW COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM. WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THAT LOGO ON THE FRONT PART OF THE WEBSITE. WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO INTERNALLY. AND SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT TO GET THERE. THAT WILL THEN DRIVE EVERYBODY, ALL OF OUR PERMITTING, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT INSPECTION THINGS WILL BE THROUGH THAT PORTAL. NOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING EVEN ON WEEKENDS AND NIGHTS TO GET THAT CORRECTED. WE HAD SOME PROBLEMS IN THERE ON OUR SIDE FROM SETTING IT UP, AND I'VE BEEN IN THERE WORKING TO FIX THOSE WITH. THE FIRST IS THE COMPANY. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S MORE OF A US GETTING OUT THERE AND KIND OF EDUCATING PEOPLE. THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THAT FEE IS, IS WE ARE ADJUSTING OUR SURF RESCUE GUYS SLIGHTLY, AND THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT BEFORE THEY LEAVE FOR THE DAY, THEY WILL DRIVE THE BEACH. SO ANYBODY THAT'S DONE THAT AND THEN IF WE HAVE A COMPLIANCE ISSUE, WE'LL EITHER CALL OUT ONE OF OUR APPARATUS FROM THEIR STATION OR WE'LL CALL IN ONE OF THE SURF RESCUE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE TO COME IN AND MANAGE THAT. SHOULD IT BECOME A PROBLEM. WE WILL THEN PUSH IT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T FROM A CRIMINAL CODE ENFORCE, AND WE ARE REQUIRING THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SIGN OFF TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S A FIRE BEHIND THEIR HOME. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. THANK YOU SIR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANTED TO SPEAK ONE MORE TIME ABOUT THE FIRE. SO WE ARE ASKING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, TO GO AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRE IS OUT. I THINK IT'S 10:00 OR MIDNIGHT. 
          IT'S MIDNIGHT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THEM TO GO DO THAT. IT'S. IF IT'S NOT AFTER MIDNIGHT, THEN WE CAN SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE IF WE NEED TO. BUT THE EXPECTATION IS, IS THAT THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          WE'RE INSPECTING TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A PERMIT. AND SO THEN IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT, YOU KNOW, ON THE PERMIT ITSELF, I'VE SET IT UP TO WHERE ALL THE RULES ARE LISTED THERE. SO IF THEY ARE AFTER MIDNIGHT, THEY CAN'T SAY. SO ONE OF THE PROCESSES IS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE PERMIT WITH YOU WHEN YOU'RE SETTING OFF THE FIRE, RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE FIRE. SO IF SOMEBODY COMES BY AND SAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW, AND THEY WERE PERMITTED BECAUSE WE CHECKED THAT, THEN THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. IT'S ON THEIR PERMIT. OKAY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH HERE. AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, THE PERSON THAT STARTED THE FIRE IS TO STAY WITH THE FIRE ALL NIGHT UNTIL THE FIRE GOES OUT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE FIRES WERE OUT, BECAUSE YOU'LL KNOW BY PERMIT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. NOW, IS THAT IS THAT NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS GOING ON. SO I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT MIDNIGHT GO OUT THERE AND CHECK. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. THAT IS A BURDEN TO THE STAFF FROM THEM TRYING TO SLEEP AND, YOU KNOW, PREPARE FOR OTHER EMERGENCIES. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS INITIALLY DONE. 
          BUT WE CAN LOOK AT ADJUSTING STAFFING TO TRY TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE. MY PREFERENCE OPERATIONALLY WOULD BE TRUST THE PUBLIC TO DO THE RIGHT THING. IF WE START SEEING A RECURRING PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE KEEPING THESE FIRES GOING PAST MIDNIGHT, THEN MAYBE WE COULD SWITCH TO THAT, TO HAVING THAT VERIFICATION PROCESS. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS OUR INTENT OPERATIONALLY TO GO OUT THERE AND CHECK AT THE END OF EVERY NIGHT THAT THE FIRES WERE OUT. WELL, THAT WAS JUST THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH STAFF. SO IF THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, THEN THEN I PERSONALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT NOW BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN FIRES LEFT UNATTENDED AND I HAVE SEEN THE DUNE VEGETATION CATCH ON FIRE AS THE WIND WHIPS UP. SO WHO? LET'S JUST SAY SOMEONE LEAVES ALL THEIR WOOD AND ALL THEIR ASHES AND ALL THAT STUFF ON THE BEACH. SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN? WHO'S REGULATING THAT PART OF IT? SO 
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THEY WOULD CONTACT THE COUNTY THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND FROM THERE WE WOULD EITHER SEND SOMEBODY OUT, BE IT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THEY WOULD GO OUT THERE, OR IF IT WAS IN THE MORNING, SOMEONE IN SURF RESCUE WOULD, YOU KNOW, GO DO THAT AND TAKE CARE OF THAT. BUT IF IT WAS IF THEY LEFT THEIR WOOD OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD THEN EITHER BECOME A CRIMINAL ASPECT THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR LITTERING OR LEAVING, WHATEVER THAT IS. WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT AT THAT POINT, OR IT WOULD BE A CODE VIOLATION FOR LITTERING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOT BEING ON THE SIDE OF THE CODE. NOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHERE WHERE THIS IS HAS GOTTEN CONFUSING FROM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON THIS, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT CODE NOT BEING INVOLVED IN THIS, THAT THIS WAS A FIRE DEPARTMENT JOB AND THAT AT MIDNIGHT THEY WOULD CHECK TO SEE IF THE FIRE WAS OUT AND IF THEY HAD LEFT WOOD AND ASH THERE, THEN THEY WOULD THEY WOULD GET A FINE. SO IF THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WELL, I THINK AFTER THE FACT, IF SOMEONE HAS LEFT THEIR MATERIAL ON THE BEACH, WE HAVE A PERMIT. WE KNOW WHO TO GO AFTER TO FIND. I MEAN, THE PERMIT HOLDER, THE PERMIT IS THE APPLICANT HAS MADE APPLICATION FOR THE PERMIT IF SURF RESCUE GOES DOWN THE BEACH THE NEXT DAY AS PART OF THEIR PROCESS, AND THEY FIND THAT THIS FIRE WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT CLEANED UP LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. WE KNOW WE KNOW WHO TO GO GET AFTER THE FACT AND FINE FOR THAT ALSO CREATES A SITUATION WHERE WE MAY NOT BE SO INCLINED TO ISSUE A PERMIT TO THAT ENTITY THE NEXT TIME FOR A FIRE ON THE BEACH, IF THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE BEEN A BAD ACTOR. SO CERTAINLY, IF THE FIRE GETS OUT OF CONTROL, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CALLED, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO RESPOND TO GO PUT THAT FIRE OUT AT WHATEVER TIME THAT THAT HAPPENS, IF THEY LEAVE THE FIRE UNATTENDED AND LEAVE THE BEACH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE GET A CALL. I MEAN, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THAT FIRE COULD BURN UNATTENDED IT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, BUT I THINK WE'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? AND IF WE DO, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE OPERATIONALLY HOW WE HOW WE OPERATE. BUT IF EVERYBODY'S ACTING IN GOOD FAITH, CERTAINLY MOST OF THESE, I THINK, ARE OCCURRING FROM THESE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO PROVIDE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THEIR PATRONS. 
          AND SO IF THEY CONTINUE TO BE BAD ACTORS, WE'RE GOING TO STOP ISSUING PERMITS. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THEIR BUSINESS AND THEIR ABILITY TO DO THAT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY IF IT'S THE BOARD'S PREFERENCE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT OPERATIONALLY. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE KIND OF LET THE PUBLIC DEMONSTRATE THEY CAN BEHAVE, AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEN WE'LL WE CAN WE CAN TUNE IT UP TO GO BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THAT SOMEONE BE A SPECIFIC VENDOR. 
          WE'RE AGREEING WITH THAT. THAT'S OKAY. THAT IT CAN BE AND ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FIRES, JUST LIKE WE APPROVED IN OUR IN OUR LAST MEETING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE NONE OF THAT HAS CHANGED. NO, MA'AM. IT HAS NOT. QUESTION. YES, SIR. WHERE WOULD ONE CURRENTLY GET A PERMIT FROM? CURRENTLY THERE'S NOT. ALL THEY DO IS IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROCESS. THEY CAN CHOOSE TO OR NOT. AND THEY JUST EMAIL IN THIS FORM AND THEN WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT. THERE'S NOTHING THERE AT BEFORE. NOW, NOW WHAT THEY'LL DO IS, IS THEY'LL REACH IN IT'LL GO THROUGH COMMUNITY CONNECT, SAME PLACE. IT'LL GO IN THERE, THEY'LL GO IN, IT'LL SAY BEACH BONFIRE PERMIT. IT COMES IN, IT NOTIFIES OUR SURF RESCUE PEOPLE. 
          IT NOTIFIES US THEY GO IN THE SURF RESCUE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT IT MEET THE PERMIT MEETS. I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH MY STAFF ON THAT AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, IS THEN THAT WILL GET PUSHED BACK OUT TO THEM AND NOTIFIED THAT THEIR PERMIT IS APPROVED AND ON THEIR PERMIT. IT DOES SPECIFICALLY OUTLINE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO BE, YOU KNOW, CAN'T START BEFORE I BELIEVE AT 6 P.M. HAS TO BE DONE BY MIDNIGHT. THEY CAN'T BE LEFT UNATTENDED. THE PERSON THAT STARTED ALL THOSE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE. IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING, YOU KNOW, FAR ENOUGH AWAY. IF THEY DO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE SEA TURTLE STUFF. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS ALL ALL OF THOSE RULES ARE IN THERE. AND IT'S LISTED ON THE PERMIT. INITIALLY WHEN IT WAS BUILT IT WAS NOT. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THEY CAN'T SAY THEY DIDN'T KNOW. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL RULES THAN WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED UP HERE. RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT MA'AM. AND THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING IS, IS ADDING THESE THESE PENALTIES IS THAT I, I HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ADD. AND THIS IS COMMON SENSE. WHY CAN'T WE ISSUE A FIVE GALLON BUCKET WHEN THEY GET THE PERMIT, THEY CAN WALK DOWN TO THE WATER AND PUT WATER IN THE BUCKET AND PUT OUT SAID FIRE, AND WE'RE DONE. THAT'S ABOUT AS EASY AS IT GET, FOLKS. I MEAN, AND I MEAN, THERE YOU GO. YOU'VE GOT A BUCKET. YOU'RE MANDATED TO HAVE IT. WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR FIRE, PUT THE FIRE OUT. WE'RE GOOD AND WE'RE NOT. THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAUL OFF ALL THAT MESS BECAUSE SOME KID'S GOING TO STEP ON SOME HALF BURNT WOOD THE NEXT MORNING AND CORRECT. AND THEY CAN USE THE 
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BUCKET. IT IS IN A RAISED. THEY'RE ON A RAISED FIRE PIT. CORRECT. SO IT'S JUST GOT TO BE DUG OUT INTO A HOLE AND THEN PUT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE A IT CAN'T BE LARGER THAN I THINK IT'S THREE FOOT IN DIAMETER, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S NOT GENERALLY IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO BE A LARGE BONFIRE. IT'S MORE OF A SMALL FIRE PIT IF YOU WILL TYPE THING. SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF IT. AND I KNOW TODAY WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS I KNOW, BUT I'VE JUST GOT ALL THESE THOUGHTS. AND WE I TALKED STAFF ONE TIME ABOUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS. AND IT DOES IT DOES WORK FOR THE MOST PART. I MEAN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY CREATING ANYTHING CRAZY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO THERE'S ALWAYS A FEW, AS YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S ALWAYS ANOTHER WAY TO SKIN A CAT, IF YOU WILL. AND THERE'S COMMON SENSE PREVAILS EVERY TIME IF IT'S APPLIED THE OTHER WAY IS PANAMA CITY BEACH. THIS IS PROBABLY WHY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VENDOR AND IT CAN ONLY BE THE PROPANE. SO THERE'S NO MESS TO CLEAN UP. AND YOU GOT A VENDOR WHO'S CLEANING IT UP. YEAH, IT DOES MAKE IT SIMPLER. SO AND IF WE'RE DOING WOOD I MEAN DO WE HAVE A VENDOR THAT SELLS COUNTY APPROVED WOOD? I DON'T, I DON'T I MEAN, HOW GREAT WOULD THAT BE THE VENDOR SALES, WOULD THEY GO GET THE PERMIT FROM THAT PLACE. AND THEY GET A BUNDLE OF WOOD AND A FIVE GALLON BUCKET? THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. I JUST CAN I JUST ASK YOU PERSONALLY ONE MORE THING. IS IT GOING TO TAKE YOU LONGER THAN $35 WORTH OF TIME TO ENTER THE NEW NAME OF THE MANAGER OF THE CONDO? AND I THINK IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT STRICTLY THAT TIME FRAME, I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE FEMALE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. SERVICE FORM OF A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE. THE DESCRIPTION OF THE SERVICES AS THEY'RE WRITTEN HERE, EXCEPT WE LOWER THE REGISTRATION, MODIFICATION MANAGING AGENT FEE TO $35 INSTEAD OF 100. I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, JUST TO CLARIFY, ALL OTHER FEES AND FINES AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE IN HERE STAYS AS IS WITH THAT ONE MODIFICATION. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFFIELD. 
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YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE ARE INTO PUBLIC HEARING. MR. WAYNE PORTER, THIS IS NUMBER 20. ITEM NUMBER 22, PL DPA20250084 AND PL 2025 0083. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE 15 315 MEMORIAL CIRCLE. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. IF ANYONE IS PLANNING ON SPEAK ON THIS, IF THEY COULD PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DO. ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO REPORT? I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY SPOKEN TO ME. I'VE SEEN THE PROPERTY SPOKEN TO. I'VE SEEN THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN TO NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. EXPECTED. NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON MAY 20TH, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 1.2 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL, AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS TO THE PI. PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DESIGNATION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 15315 MEMORIAL CIRCLE IN THE WEST BAY AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONE CHANGE CHANGES CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF WEST BAY THAT HAS A MIX OF USES THAT INCLUDES EXISTING PUBLIC, INSTITUTIONAL, AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY USES. 
          THERE ARE OTHER LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS IN THE AREA THAT ALLOW FOR A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL. THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY. THERE IS CURRENTLY ZONED PUBLIC INSTITUTION IN THE SOUTH, AND THE APPLICANT DOES OWN ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL. THE PROPERTY MEETS THE MINIMUM STANDARD REQUIREMENTS FOR TABLE 14.1 OF THE LDR, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL CHAPTER. STAFF AGREES WITH. THE PLANNING COMMISSION, RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES. WE DID HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED IN WRITING ON THIS REQUEST. THERE WERE SIX EMAILS. I BELIEVE THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT ALLOW A 
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CEMETERY? I'D HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH. THEY MAY BE. IT MAY BE PERMITTED IN. THERE MAY BE SOME AGRICULTURAL ALLOWANCES. AGRICULTURAL ALSO ALLOWS PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL. SO THAT WOULD BE A. ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR IT PERHAPS COMMERCIAL AS WELL. I'M NOT CERTAIN. I'M JUST CURIOUS. THANK YOU SIR. YES. WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPOSED PI PIECE PROPERTY. IS IT 25 FOOT? IT WOULD BE. I CAN I CAN CHECK THAT REAL QUICK. IT'S GOING TO BE EITHER 20 OR 25FT BETWEEN 20 AND 25. ARE WE LOOKING TO PUT A PROPOSED FENCE THERE OR LANDSCAPING OR HOW DO WE KNOW? WELL, THE LDR ALLOWS EITHER THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER TO BE PLANTED, OR YOU COULD USE A COMBINATION OF VEGETATION AND A FENCE OR JUST A FENCE ALONE. A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THAT'S CORRECT. WITH THAT, THAT TRIGGERED A THOUGHT. DOES THAT MEAN THAT WITHIN THAT 25 THAT THAT PROPERTY BASICALLY CANNOT BE UTILIZED FOR THE INTENDED USE? CORRECT. IF THEY IF THEY OPTED TO DO THE FENCE OPTION FOR THE BUFFER, THAT 20 TO 25 FOOT BUFFER SPACE WOULD HAVE TO BE LEFT OPEN, IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PLACE DRIVEWAYS, A HEADSTONE IN THAT 25FT THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO. NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, I GUESS. I'M SORRY I HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD. I JUST I HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THERE WOULD BE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS IN BETWEEN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT INTO DETAILS ABOUT THAT THOUGH. SO HE'S BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. 
          ABSOLUTELY WHAT HE IS REQUIRED AND EXPECTATIONS. THEY WILL REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT ORDER AS WELL. SO RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU WAYNE. APPLICANT. YES SIR. PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ROGER KRANZ, 40 302 CRYSTAL LAKE DRIVE, CHIPLEY, FLORIDA. I'M THE PASTOR AT WEST BAY BAPTIST, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY. JUST IN CASE YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF THIS, THERE'S ONLY TWO CEMETERIES ON THE WEST END OF THE BEACH. ONE IS GUNLOCK, AND IT'S IT CAN'T BE EXPANDED. AND THE OTHER ONE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE CHURCH, WHICH IS WEST BAY CEMETERY. AND IT'S FULL. ALL THE PLOTS ARE ALREADY PURCHASED. SO AS THE PASTOR THERE, THIS IS HOW THIS ALL CAME ABOUT. AS THE PASTOR THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO ME AND ASK IF THEY CAN BE BURIED IN THE CEMETERY, AND I ALWAYS HAVE TO TURN THEM AWAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO BE BURIED OUT THERE. SO WE HAVE THAT EXTRA PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, AND WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, AS WE ALSO WANT TO BUILD A SUNDAY SCHOOL BUILDING NEXT TO THE CHURCH. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT COULD BRING IN SOME FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IT'S A WIN WIN WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND. IT SERVES THE COMMUNITY, SERVES THE BEACH. IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE TO PURCHASE THE PLOTS. SO IT'S JUST A WIN WIN WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. SO YOU BRING UP A POINT. YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING TO SELL PLOTS IN YOUR CEMETERY. IS THAT CORRECT? CEMETERIES AREN'T. 
          ACTUALLY, THE LAND IS NOT ACTUALLY SOLD TO THE PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE LEASED TO THEM. SO IT WON'T BE JUST FOR PRIVATE MEMBERS. IT WILL BE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. YES. SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE FLORIDA STATUTE FOR 77.23 IN PLACE FOR PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE OF SAID CEMETERY FOR THE FUTURE? IT'S YEAH, IT'S PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE BROUGHT IN FROM THE SALES. OKAY, OKAY. BECAUSE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THE COUNTY CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING. YES, YES, CEMETERY. AS THIS THING PROGRESSES AND TIME MOVES ON, WE HAVE A CIVIL A CIVIL ENGINEER. CEMETERY LAWYER, ALL THOSE PEOPLE ON STANDBY WAITING FOR THIS TO PASS. IF THIS PASSES, EVERYBODY STARTS THEIR PROCESS. SO WE'VE ALREADY CONTACTED EVERYONE GOT DID ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE IN THE BACKGROUND ON IT. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PASSING IT TO PAY. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PUT AT REST ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? THAT'S UP TO THE CIVIL ENGINEER. WE'RE WE'RE HOPING FOR 350 SPOTS, BUT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE BUFFERS AND WHATNOT AND THE PARKING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE MAY NOT MAKE THAT NUMBER, BUT AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS. OKAY. IS WHAT I'M HEARING FOR THAT PIECE OF 
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PROPERTY IN WITH A RESIDENTIAL PERSON LIVING DIRECTLY BEHIND, IS THERE ANOTHER IS THERE ANY OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED FOR CEMETERY THAT MIGHT HOLD MORE CAPACITY? BECAUSE PANAMA CITY BEACH HAS GOT A LOT OF FOLKS IN IT. AND AS YOUR CHURCH CONTINUES TO GROW, IF YOU CAN PUT THE MAXIMUM 350, HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE TO FILL UP IF THE COMMUNITY. YEAH, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SAINT JOE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING CEMETERY, BUT THAT'S NOT WE'VE BEEN TRYING THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND IT'S NOT HAPPENED. OKAY. AND THIS IS A NEED. AND SO WE JUST PUT TWO, TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND TRYING TO YOU KNOW, IT'S IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW IT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY OKAY. THANK YOU. OH BY THE WAY AND TO YOU ALSO MENTIONED HEADSTONES EARLIER ACROSS THE STREET. THE EXISTING CEMETERIES ALL HAVE DIFFERENT SIZE HEADSTONES AND DIFFERENT SIZE. I MEAN IT'S JUST A HODGEPODGE. THIS ONE WILL LOOK MORE LIKE A PARK. ALL THE HEADSTONES WILL BE GROUND LEVEL. IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL IT'LL IT'LL LOOK LIKE A PARK. EVERYTHING WILL BE UNIFORMED. WE'VE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. SO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE EMAILS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FOR IT. BECAUSE I HAD TO OH, TWO PEOPLE RESPONDED AND THEY WERE THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. OKAY. JOB AS THE BOARD IS TO MAKE SURE, NUMBER ONE, THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LATTER YEARS, TO MAINTAIN, RIGHT, TO KEEP UP, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S COMING, AND THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT. SO YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE IT. YOU BET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE OR ANYTHING AFTERWARDS OR DISCUSS OR MOTION OR OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE QUESTION. DID I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL TODAY AND THEN GET EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GET IT IN COMPLIANCE TO THE PLANNING ZONING? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? THIS IS A NECESSARY STEP TO BRING IT TO A PUBLIC INSTITUTION. OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. AND BY THE WAY, ALSO YOU YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL, PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT IT'S ALLOWED CEMETERIES ARE ALLOWED THERE. 
          YES, SIR. THEY ARE THEY ARE JUST JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. YOU NEED A MOTION, CHAIRMAN. 
          YES, SIR. MOTION TO APPROVE. I GOT A MOTION. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, 23, PLD, PA 2025 0086 AND PL A 2025 0087. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE 3320 BRADENTON AVENUE. THIS IS ALSO A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. SO ANYBODY PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON THIS PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO REPORT HAVE SEEN AND FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, AND SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WITH STAFF FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE DEVELOPER, SPOKEN TO DEVELOPER FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. WAYNE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON MAY 20TH, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 6.6 ACRES GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY TO C3, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LOW. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3320 BRADENTON AVENUE IN THE UNINCORPORATED LYNNHAVEN AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. LAST YEAR, THE CITY OF LYNN HAVEN VOTED TO CONTRACT OR ESSENTIALLY ANNEX THIS PROPERTY FROM CITY JURISDICTION. 
          THE OWNER IS REQUIRED TO REQUEST THE COUNTY DESIGNATE A FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING DISTRICT. 
          WHILE THE CITY OF LYNN HAVEN HAD A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATED TO THE PROPERTY, IT APPEARS THE PROPERTY HAS HAD AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL USE SINCE 2000, AND FOUR. THE REQUEST REFLECTS THE HISTORICAL USE OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED 
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ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG HIGHWAY 389 EAST AVENUE, AND THE PROPERTY MEETS THE BULK REGULATIONS REQUIRED IN LDR TABLE 6.1. STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES. WE DID RECEIVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ONE. A COUPLE OF EMAILS PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AN OBJ TO IT. THE GENERAL OBJECTIONS WERE THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY NEW COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA. I DID EXPLAIN THAT IT HAD A COMMERCIAL USE ALREADY, AND MANY SEEMED SURPRISED BY THAT. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. BUT IT'S YOU CAN. I'VE BEEN TO THE PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE IN AERIAL PHOTOS THAT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WHY? THANK YOU SIR. COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD MORNING. JEFF GREGORY, 3320 BRADENTON AVENUE. I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST A LAND USE CHANGE AND ZONING CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY TO BRING IT CONFORMING. WE HAVE HAD AN OFFICE THERE AND LAY DOWN YARD FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS. AND LYNN HAVEN HAS ISSUED US A BUILDING, I MEAN, A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE OFFICE AND ALSO A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR THE WHOLE TIME WE'VE BEEN THERE. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. PLANNING ANY CHANGES, SIR? SIR, ARE YOU PLANNING ANY CHANGES OR EXPANSION OR ANYTHING? NOT AT THIS POINT. WE JUST WANT TO BE CONFORMING. 
          CHAIRMAN. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THESE WHERE THEY WERE IDENTIFIED, WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO DO EXPANSIONS AND FOUND OUT THEY WERE NON-CONFORMING. MR. GREGORY, I THINK YOU YOU'RE JUST BEING PROACTIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT YOUR LAND IS COMPLIANT. SO WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT WAY IT GETS THAT NON-CONFORMING USE. THERE WAS ONE NOT TOO FAR FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK WE CHANGED IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS IN THIS AREA. SO WITH IT BEING AN EXISTING BUSINESS, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY 20 YEARS, I THINK YOU DESERVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT ZONING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, YOU COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT YOUR OWN FACILITY. YOUR COMMENT? THANK YOU. MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONTINUATION. 
          YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES. YOU'RE JUST CONFORMING TO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. SO I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU'RE HERE STAYING COMPLIANT. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT. AS WAYNE SAID, THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE AGAINST IT, I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN KNEW WE HAD BEEN THERE FOR THE 20 YEARS. I THINK MY OFFICERS WERE THERE BEFORE THE LADY BOUGHT HER HOUSE. I DEVELOPED THE SUBDIVISION WHERE THEY LIVED. ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU LIVED THERE TOO. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU EVEN KNEW WE WERE BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE STORM CAME AND ALL THE TREES BLEW DOWN. SO WHEN I USED TO RIDE MY BIKE. OKAY. SO YOU DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE THERE? WELL, YOU KNOW, ANY ANY COMPLAINTS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THERE? SO. YEAH. YEAH. WELL. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU. ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION IN THREE SECONDS. SO TAKE YOUR PICK, COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. 
          COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PLD, PA 2025 0073 AND PL 2025 007 FOR SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE FOR 18 725 HIGHWAY 231. MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, MY FIRM HAS DONE SOME CONSULTING ON THIS. SO I'M GOING TO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE CONTINUALLY WORKING ON IT, BUT WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST, SO I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. YES, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANYBODY WISHING FOR BRIAN TO SWEAR THEM IN, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DO? THANKS, MARTY. YEAH. ANY EX PARTY ON OUR BEHALF? FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S CLOSE PROPERTY, BUT HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY? SPOKEN TO NO ONE. AND FAMILIAR WITH PROPERTY. 
          SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. ON MAY 20TH, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY NINE ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND A CHANGE OF ZONING DESIGNATION FROM AG ONE GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 18 725 HIGHWAY 231, IN THE FOUNTAIN AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION 
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VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE EASTERN PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE C3 ZONING. THE REQUEST WOULD EXTEND THAT COMMERCIAL USE TO THE WEST. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR ALONG HIGHWAY 231 THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND LAND USE. DESIGNATION AND ZONING. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS FOR THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USES IN THE FOUNTAIN RURAL COMMUNITY. SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES. I DID NOT WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS. I DID GET A CALL FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTING TO KNOW HOW IT WENT. SHE DID NOT GIVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHETHER SHE WAS FOR OR AGAINST IT. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? WHERE'S ACCESS ROAD POTENTIALLY FOR THIS IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE HIGHWAY 231 OKAY. THAT. I'M SORRY. BEFORE THEY MADE THE REQUEST, IT WAS A SEPARATE PARCEL. WHEN WE NOTIFIED THE OWNER THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MERGE THE PARCELS TOGETHER AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, THEY WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT BEFORE THIS CAME TO ANY PUBLIC HEARING. SO. BUFFERS. THE BUFFERS BETWEEN GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THE GENERAL AGRICULTURE ARE 15FT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DO WE KNOW WHAT POSSIBLY COMING TO THIS PIECE BY CHANCE? I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT PROPOSED USES IN THE APPLICATION PACKET. THEY DID PROVIDE A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN FOR AN RV PARK, BUT AT THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU WAYNE. THANK. BEING A PUBLIC HEARING I DON'T DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY STAND UP ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. BUT IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS. SEEING NONE. LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 
          COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. AND COMMISSIONER CARROLL ABSTAINS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PLS 2025 0078 ZONE CHANGE, 8910 FRONT BEACH ROAD. THIS IS ALSO A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. 
          SO ANYBODY WHO'S PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM, IF THEY COULD PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DO. ARE THERE ANY QUASI. I'M SORRY, ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO REPORT ON THIS ONE? FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY? NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. SEEING THE PROPERTY SPOKEN. NO ONE SEEING THE PROPERTY SPOKEN. NO ONE SENIOR PROPERTY SPOKEN TO. NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. ON MAY 20TH, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF 0.7 ACRES FROM PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL TO SEE THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 8910 FRONT BEACH ROAD IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. PROPERTIES. LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR ALONG FRONT BEACH ROAD THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY ZONED C-2 AND C-3, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. 
          ALREADY, THE PARCEL MEETS THE MINIMUM BULK REGULATIONS OF THE C-3 ZONING AS DETAILED IN LDR TABLE 6.1, FRONT BEACH ROAD IS CLASSIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL ARTERIAL ROADWAY IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF AGREES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE. SEEING NONE. THANK YOU WAYNE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO 
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APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER. PERSIS. YES, COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. 
          YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NOW, WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 26. D PA 2025 0081 AND ZC 2025 0079. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE 2106 2108 AND 2110 JOAN AVENUE AGAIN. 
          QUASI-JUDICIAL. SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM? YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM? THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUT. I DO ANY QUASI ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO REPORT. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, BUT HAVE NOTHING. NEAR THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN. FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN TO NO ONE. FAMILIAR WITH PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. WAYNE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS ONCE AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON MAY 20TH, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 2.8 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND A CHANGE IN ZONING DESIGNATION FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS TO C1. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 21, OH SIX, 21, OH EIGHT AND 2110 JOAN AVENUE IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FINE THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR ALONG JOAN AVENUE THAT HAS EXISTING C1 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONINGS AND USES. THERE IS EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, AS WELL AS TO THE WEST ACROSS JOAN AVENUE. JOAN AVENUE IS ALSO IDENTIFIED AS A COLLECTOR ROADWAY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS A BOARD PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES. 
          ONCE AGAIN, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ISSUE HERE TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO CAN YOU JUST RUN BACK THROUGH C-1? WHAT'S ALLOWED IN C-1 ON THE USES, PLEASE? SURE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ACCOMPANYING C-1 ZONE DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR CONVENIENCE STORES, GAS STATIONS, FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS. ACCESSORY ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, DRUG STORES, PHARMACIES, LAUNDROMATS, DRY CLEANERS, DAYCARE CENTERS, FLOWER SHOPS, CLOTHING SHOPS, AUTO PARTS STORES, AND PACKAGE STORES WITHOUT CONSUMPTION OF ON PREMISE BED AND BREAKFAST INNS, FINANCE AND INSURANCE, AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE STORES, AND WITHIN THE BEACHES SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE. ALL ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE PERMITTED AS WELL. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP. THE GAS STATIONS. JOAN AVENUE IS AN EXTREMELY WELL TRAVELED ROAD ON THE BEACH. I MEAN, LIKE CONSTANT, MOST OF IT IS RESIDENTIAL, RUNNING UP AND DOWN JOAN AVENUE. AND MY CONCERN IS I THINK THEY ALREADY HAVE LIKE DOG GROOMING THERE, WHICH IS NOT A PROBLEM. AND AS I UNDERSTOOD, THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO A DOGGY DAYCARE TYPE THING THERE. BUT THE GAS STATION TO ME WOULD BRING SO MUCH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE TO THAT AREA, I JUST HAVE A BIG CONCERN ABOUT CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATIONS BEING EITHER FURTHER, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THIS RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEHIND IT. I JUST THINK THAT MIGHT OVERLOAD THAT ROAD SEVERELY MORE THAN IT IS NOW. IT'S ALREADY PRETTY, PRETTY CRAZY PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS. IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE MOST PART PAST WHERE YOU SEE THE ONE TO BRING THAT, BRING THAT UP. WHY ARE THESE PURPLE SPOTS HERE? BEHIND THE PROPOSED SPOT? ARE THOSE RESIDENTIAL LOTS? ARE YOU TALKING TO THE EAST? RIGHT HERE TO THE SOUTH. 21, 12 AND 20. THERE YOU GO. 2112 AND 2120. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? 14 2114. CORRECT. 22 TO THE SOUTH THERE. 2112, 2114 AND IT'S AT 9110. THAT IS C1 CURRENTLY C1 ZONE PROPERTY, NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL. I AGREE WITH CLAIRE SAID YOU KNOW YOU PUT A GAS STATION IS INDEED THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BACK UP THE TRAFFIC, MAKE IT MORE CONGESTED IN THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THERE ON DOWN. SO I REALLY WISH 
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THE APPLICANT WAS HERE TO TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO. WELL, I WILL STATE WE HAD AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONE CHANGE UP IN THE AREA IN MY DISTRICT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID PUT ON IT WAS A RESTRICTION THAT THAT COULD NOT GO THERE. SO, I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO DO OF LIMITING AND SAYING IT CAN BE ALL OF THOSE, BUT IT CAN'T BE THAT AND, AND ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT WITH THEM AS IT RELATES TO THAT. SO THAT THAT IS AN AVENUE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US FROM THAT REGARD. SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICTS THAT ARE DON'T LIKE THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING HERE. SO I FEEL LIKE AS A BOARD, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T KEEP ADDING AND PILING ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS UNDER THE CONDITION THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW A GAS STATION OR KILLING OR I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. WE KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. SO WE'RE. GOOD QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. THE 2121 TEN. 
          THE TWO SOUTHERN LOTS ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT. THE 2106 IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OWNER. I ASSUME WE GOT. DO WE GET A SEPARATE APPLICATION FROM THEM OR AFFIDAVIT OR. WE DIDN'T GET A SEPARATE APPLICATION, BUT WE DID GET A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO BE INCLUDED. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE VOTED ON THAT ONE TIME BEFORE. DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER, I ASSUME THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO. THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE NOT HERE AND THEY'RE JUST WHATEVER WE DECIDE THEY'RE ALL GOOD WITH IT. IS THAT KIND OF I'M SURPRISED THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPLICANT, IS NOT HERE. I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH HER ABOUT WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO HERE. IT ALL LEANED TOWARD WHAT COMMISSIONER P'S ADDRESSED IS A DOGGY DAYCARE, OR MAYBE A DOG WALKING PARK TYPE PLACE. SHE MADE NO INDICATION THAT SHE WANTED TO PUT A GAS STATION HERE. I DON'T LIKE TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE, BUT I DON'T. I DON'T FEEL THAT WAS IN HER PLAN. I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE THING WITH THE DAYCARE AND ALL THAT BEFORE, SO JUST JUST SOMETHING TO REMEMBER. BUT I DEFINITELY. ARE NOT HERE. YEAH, I AM TOO. 
          I'M, I'M SORT OF IF WE'RE GOING TO CONDITION IT, I WOULD RATHER THEM BE HERE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE CONDITIONING IT WELL, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S EASY TO TABLE IT. YEAH. THEY WERE AWARE THAT THIS WAS GOING ON. YES WE CAN CONTINUE THIS PART OF IT. SO TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT. JUST NOT WANTING TO REVISIT THAT DOG BARKING THING THAT 20 MINUTES WHEN IT TURNS INTO A DOGGY DAYCARE, I WE HAVE TO LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK FIRST BEFORE WE MAKE SURE MAKE A MOTION HERE, BUT I AGREE, I FIND IT SCARY THAT WE'RE LETTING EVEN A PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S NOT HERE. 
          THAT DOESN'T IT'S NOT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A BIG DEAL. THEY SHOULD HAVE PLANS FOR THEIR PARCELS SEPARATELY. YEAH. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WAYNE, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE PUBLIC. IS ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALRIGHT. SEEING NO ONE. LIKE A MOTION. WE CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. 
          COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. 
          [County Attorney]
NEXT, WE HAVE COUNTY ATTORNEY REVISION TO CHAPTER FIVE OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, THIS FOLLOWS THE EARLIER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE BEACH BONFIRE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. THIS ORDINANCE CLARIFIES THAT A PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED. IT. GIVES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. SO THEY HAVE THE ISSUE. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE BEACH BONFIRE ORDINANCE IF THEY COME ACROSS IT. AND IT ALSO CHANGES A REQUIREMENT THAT THAT BEACH BONFIRE PERMIT HOLDERS HAVE TO GET THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE STAYING AT, BECAUSE WE RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME SORT OF WRITTEN APPROVAL WILL BE DIFFICULT. AND THAT'S AND WE'RE ADDING SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT FINES FOR VIOLATIONS TO AUTHORIZE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN THAT PROVIDES FOR THAT. QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY I 
          [01:20:01]
HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO WE DISCUSSED THAT THE PART ABOUT HAVING TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE LANDOWNER. BUT CAN YOU WE ARE REMOVING. SO WE HAD LANGUAGE IN THE PRIOR ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRED WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND I THINK THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED SINCE THEN WAS THAT. SOMEBODY WHO'S STAYING ON THE PROPERTY, WHO WANTS TO HAVE A BONFIRE, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME SORT OF WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR WHATEVER WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE. SO WE REMOVED THE REASON THAT I ASK YOU TO CLARIFY THAT IS BECAUSE COMMISSIONER CARROLL HAD ASKED EARLIER ABOUT PERMISSION FROM THE FROM THE LANDOWNER, I BELIEVE HE SAID. SO IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE THAT LIKE RENTS A UNIT. IT'S A VRBO. THEY HAVE NO WAY OF GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE LANDOWNER. PERIOD. AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHO, YOU KNOW, THE LANDOWNER IS. SO I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT CHANGE. BUT I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH THIS WITHOUT BEING COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO BURN SOMETHING ON MY PROPERTY AS A LANDOWNER. I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT WORKS IN PANAMA CITY BEACH. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THEY ALLOW IT, THEY JUST HAVE IT IN, YOU KNOW, AS A STANDING AGREEMENT THAT, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE BONFIRES HERE, BUT PERSONALLY I WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS MAKING A FIRE ON MY PROPERTY. I THINK YOU HAD THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT ISN'T WHAT WE WHAT WE HAVE. 
          AND AGAIN, I SAY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT FROM A LANDOWNER UNLESS IT'S A HOUSE, YOU KNOW, A DUPLEX, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ANY MULTI I'M REFERRING TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. YEAH. DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT SITUATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE CLEAR. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. RIGHT. 
          ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. MOTION TO APPROVE A MOTION. 
          SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PERSIS. YES, COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. 
          YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM, 28 REVISIONS TO CHAPTER SEVEN OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS IS PART OF OUR ONGOING EFFORT TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES AND IDENTIFY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MODIFIED. CHAPTER SEVEN IS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT CHAPTER. IT ALREADY HAS SEEN SOME CHANGES BECAUSE OF THE REMOVAL OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE BOARD EARLIER. SO THIS IS PRIMARILY CLEANUP FROM THAT. AND WE THERE ARE SOME DUPLICATIVE LANGUAGE AND SOME SOME WORDING CHANGES ABOUT HOW YOU REFER TO NOTICES OF HEARING. AND CITATIONS AND SUCH. BUT YEAH, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF TECHNICAL, NON-POLICY ORIENTED MODIFICATIONS. QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALRIGHT. SEEING I DID HAVE ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP. I'M SORRY. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. 1490 1-91 TALKS ABOUT SALE OF CUSTOM MADE WEARING APPAREL. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THIS IS THE ROLE THAT WE. THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT SAYS THIS IS A CIVIL ISSUE AND THAT WE'RE GOING INTO REGULATING IF SOMEONE HAS WANTS TO BUY SOMETHING CUSTOM. AND I DON'T THINK THAT ALL OF THESE RULES ARE BEING FOLLOWED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AS YOU READ THROUGH THEM. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE AS REGULATING. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BUSINESS TRANSACTION THAT SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, BETWEEN THE BUSINESS AND THE CUSTOMER. I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. I'M JUST SURE I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE ROLE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, SO THIS IS A FUTURE CHAPTER THAT WE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT. AND THE WEARING APPAREL REGULATION IS A CONFUSING ONE TO ME TOO. I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT CAME FROM. AND IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE FLAGGED AS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, BUT THAT'S UNRELATED TO THE CHAPTER SEVEN AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NO PUBLIC 
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COMMENT ON THAT. WE'RE ADDRESSING CHAPTER SEVEN RIGHT NOW. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. SECOND WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CAROL. YES, MA'AM. 
          COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, 
          [PUBLIC COMMENT (Open to any issue)]
MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE ARE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE WHICH YOU THINK THE BOARD MAY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS ERICA BURKETT. I151 GRAND LAGOON SHORES DRIVE, PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA. I'M WITH THE BAY COUNTY ARTIFICIAL REEF ASSOCIATION. I'M THE NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE MYSELF TO YOU GUYS AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE WORKS. WE ARE CURRENTLY FUNCTIONING. WE HAVE BEEN DONATED A TUGBOAT AND TWO VERY LARGE CRANE PEDESTALS BY EASTERN SHIPBUILDING. WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THESE OUT, WORKING WITH THE SAINT JOE FOUNDATION. OUR DEADLINE FOR THAT GRANT PROPOSAL IS JULY 18TH. WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND WELDING PROGRAMS TO STRIP THAT TUGBOAT AND GET IT PREPARED TO SINK. SO WE ARE WORKING. WE ARE WORKING. I'VE MET WITH MR. MICA HERE TO GET APPROVAL FROM BAY COUNTY TO BECOME THE ARTIFICIAL REEF AGENT, PER SE, THAT ALLOWS US TO ZONE NEW AREAS. WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AS WELL AS FSU DIVING MIKE DAVIS, HE HAS OFFERED HIS ASSISTANCE AND HIS EQUIPMENT TO ZONE TO HELP US ZONE THOSE AREAS, WHICH REQUIRES A SIDE SCAN, MAGNETOMETER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING, WE ARE FUNCTIONING. WE DO HAVE A NEW BOARD. IT'S A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD NOW, NOT A 13 MEMBER BOARD. WE HAVE DIVERS, BUSINESSMEN AND CHARTER FISHERMEN, RECREATIONAL FISHERMEN. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT WE'RE UP TO, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT? SEEING NONE. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NO REPORT. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT. NOTHING FROM 
          [CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER CROSBY, I HOPE ALL THE FATHERS HAD A GREAT FATHER'S DAY. I KNOW I DID, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE KICKOFF OF THE 4TH OF JULY SEASON. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. I HAD A GREAT FATHER'S DAY. I HOPE YOU DID AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE A CHILD AND YOU'RE A DAD, WE HAD A GREAT TIME ON THE WATER, SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FOURTH. I'M GOING TO BUY A PONTOON BOAT. YES, I AM A LITTLE ONE. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, SIR. SO THIS FRIDAY AT 1030 AT THE BAY COUNTY COURTHOUSE, WE'LL HAVE THE OFFICIAL RIBBON CUTTING, GRAND OPENING OF THE JUVENILE JUSTICE FACILITY. SO I INVITE YOU TO COME JOIN US. LONG TIME IN THE MAKING TO HAVE ONE FACILITY WITH ALL THE COURT SERVICES ON ONE CAMPUS. SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT ADDITION. EXTREMELY PROUD OF THAT. SO PLEASE COME JOIN US 1030 ON FRIDAY. AND LASTLY, ENJOYED MY FATHER'S DAY. WE DID A VACATION. WE WERE UP IN THE BOSTON AREA. AND OF COURSE WE DID THE FREEDOM TOUR LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WHERE ALL THE HISTORY BEHIND OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY STARTED AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO STARTED THE WHOLE PROCESS OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH OUR FREEDOM AND JUST WANT TO SAY A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ARMY 250 YEARS. SO THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. PEACE. THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE ARMY. THANK YOU ROBERT FOR TAKING THAT. HE'S GOOD AT STEALING HIM. YEAH IT WAS IT WAS QUITE A WONDERFUL PARADE. AND YOU KNOW, THE FLAG DAY, THE WHOLE THING WAS WONDERFUL AND I ENJOYED HEARING ABOUT IT, WATCHING IT LATER. I DIDN'T GET TO SEE IT LIVE, BUT WATCHING THE BLURBS OF IT WAS IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. IT WAS GREAT. GREAT DISPLAY. AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE ARMY, SIR. AND I WILL SAY, ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE BOARD, WORKING ON THE COURTHOUSE AND GETTING ALL THAT STUFF DONE. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS. IT IS A GOOD THING AND ACTUALLY WILL SAVE THE CITIZENS A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY. HAVING EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE AND NOT HAVING THE SHERIFF BEING ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE HIS SERVICES AS WELL. SO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK ON
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