[00:00:02] CALL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH TO ORDER. [CALL TO ORDER] IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. TODAY, THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR TOMMY KELLY WITH CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH OUR OWN ANTHONY WORKMAN FROM VETERANS SERVICES. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN. ME IN PRAYER THIS MORNING. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER GOD, I THANK YOU FOR TODAY. GOD, I THANK YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY COMMISSIONER GOD THAT SITS ON THIS PANEL THIS MORNING. GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU KEEP THEM. LORD, I PRAY A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND THEIR MINDS. GOD, I PRAY THAT AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS, GOD AND THEY DISCUSS THINGS GOD THAT WE ALLOW YOU TO GO BEFORE US. GOD AND JUST HAVE YOUR WAY. GOD, I PRAY FOR THIS COUNTY. GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU UNITE US TOGETHER. GOD, I PRAY FOR ITS GROWTH. LORD AND GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU JUST USE US, FATHER, FOR, FOR WHATEVER YOU HAVE US TO DO. GOD. GOD, I PRAY THAT THIS MORNING, GOD THAT YOU JUST USE THESE COMMISSIONERS LORD GOD, I PRAY FOR EACH AND EVERY STAFF MEMBER GOD THAT HELPS KEEP THIS COUNTY RUNNING. GOD, I PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. LORD, I PRAY PROTECTION ON THEIR LIVES. GOD, I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING. LORD USE US. GOD, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THE MOMENT, LORD TO TO HAVE THIS MEETING TODAY. GOD, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO DRAW BREATH AND HAVE ANOTHER DAY. LORD, IT IS A GIFT FROM YOU. GOD. USE US, FATHER, FOR THE FURTHERANCE OF YOUR KINGDOM. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? [APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)] NONE FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION AND MULTIPLE SECONDS. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEASE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER REDFIELD. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS TODAY. THE FIRST IS BY COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. [PRESENTATIONS] COME ON UP, GUYS. COME ON UP. HOW ARE YOU? FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. IT'S AN HONOR TO HONOR YOU ALL. TODAY I'M GOING TO READ A PROCLAMATION TO YOU FROM THE BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MESOTHELIOMA AWARENESS DAY. WHEREAS MESOTHELIOMA IS A RARE AND AGGRESSIVE CANCER PRIMARILY CAUSED BY EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS, WHICH CONTINUES TO CLAIM THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS EACH YEAR, AND WHEREAS MESOTHELIOMA HAS A LONG LATENCY PERIOD, OFTEN TAKING DECADES AFTER EXPOSURE BEFORE SYMPTOMS APPEAR, MAKING EARLY DETECTION DIFFICULT AND THE DISEASE ESPECIALLY DEVASTATING TO PATIENTS AND FAMILIES. AND WHEREAS, DESPITE ADVANCES IN RESEARCH, TREATMENT OPTIONS REMAIN LIMITED AND THE AVERAGE SURVIVAL RATE FOLLOWING DIAGNOSIS REMAINS LOW. AND WHEREAS INCREASED AWARENESS OF MESOTHELIOMA CAN LEAD TO EARLIER DETECTION, IMPROVED TREATMENT OUTCOMES, EXPAND RESEARCH FUNDING AND STRONGER SUPPORT FOR PATIENTS, SURVIVORS, AND THEIR LOVED ONES. AND WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS ADVOCATE AND COMMUNICATE, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION WILL JOIN TOGETHER ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, SIX, 2025 TO HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES, SUPPORT THOSE CURRENTLY BATTLING THE DISEASE, AND ENCOURAGE EFFORTS TO BAN ASBESTOS AND PROMOTE SAFER ENVIRONMENTS FOR ALL. SO NOW. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED, BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMS SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2025 AS MESOTHELIOMA AWARENESS DAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN THE OBSERVANCE TO HELP INCREASE AWARENESS OF MESOTHELIOMA, SUPPORT AFFECTED FAMILIES, AND ADVANCE THE SEARCH FOR A CURE. SO, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE HONORED TO HONOR YOU AND MISS AWARENESS DAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. [00:05:03] OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS FROM COMMISSIONER CROSBY. GOOD MORNING. CAN I HAVE SUSAN GAGE AND THE STAFF FOR EARLY LEARNING COALITION JOIN ME. THANKS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOING TO READ A PROCLAMATION FROM THE THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS EARLY LEARNING COALITION OF NORTHWEST FLORIDA'S 20TH ANNIVERSARY. WHEREAS THE EARLY LEARNING COALITION OF NORTHWEST FLORIDA HAS SERVED THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES OF OUR REGION WITH UNWAVERING DEDICATION FOR 20 YEARS, ENSURING ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY EARLY LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES. AND WHEREAS THE EARLY LEARNING COALITION OF NORTHWEST FLORIDA EXISTS TO HELP GROW HEALTHY CHILDREN, PARENTS, AND THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THEM. WHEREAS THE EARLY LEARNING COALITION OF NORTHWEST FLORIDA HAS PARTNERED WITH FAMILIES, EDUCATORS, AND COMMUNITY LEADERS TO PROMOTE SCHOOL READINESS, SUPPORT WORKING PARENTS, AND STRENGTHEN THE FUTURE WORKFORCE OF THE NORTHWEST FLORIDA. AND WHEREAS WE PROUDLY RECOGNIZE THE UNWAVERING DEDICATION OF OUR CHILDREN PROVIDERS, CHILDCARE PROVIDERS WHOSE COMPASSION, RESILIENCE AND COMMITMENT TO EARLY LEARNING HAVE HELPED SHAPE THE FUTURES OF COUNTLESS CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ACROSS NORTHWEST FLORIDA. WHEREAS THE BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS RECOGNIZES THE TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACT OF EARLY LEARNING OF EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND THE ESSENTIAL ROLE OF EARLY LEARNING, COALITION OF NORTHWEST FLORIDA PLAYS IN BUILDING A STRONGER AND MORE EQUITABLE COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, BE PROCLAIMED. BAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS NOW OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMS PROCLAIMS SEPTEMBER 26TH AS EARLY LEARNING COALITION OF NORTHWEST FLORIDA DAY IN HONOR OF ITS 20TH ANNIVERSARY, IN RECOGNITION OF ITS CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES OF OUR REGION. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OH. ONE MORE. I'M TRYING TO RUN. OH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS FOR ANY ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT IS NOT PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. MR. COUNTY MANAGER, THE CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. THIS MORNING, TODAY, ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA UNDER THE CLERK OF COURTS. ITEM ONE. REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. CHECK, REGISTER AND INVENTORY DELETIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGES, SEE THE REPORTS AND APPROVE INVENTORY DELETIONS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE ITEM TWO FY 26 FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO BOARD. ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO INSTITUTE THE 2026 FEES AND FINES. SCHEDULE ITEM THREE FY 24 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. ADOPT RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET UNDER COLLABORATIVE SERVICES ITEM FOUR FDOT SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN AND EXECUTE A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION GRANT AGREEMENT. AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE AREA TO THE FIXED ROUTE TRANSFER POINT LOCATED AT GULF COAST STATE COLLEGE FOR FDOT SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT, G2 S76 ITEM FIVE MULTI-COUNTY LIBRARY. STATE AID GRANT APPLICATION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AUTHORIZE THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR TO SUBMIT THE STATE AID LIBRARIES MULTI COUNTY GRANT APPLICATION AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND ANY RELATED SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENTS WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE'S DIVISION OF VISUAL LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526. ITEM SIX BAY COUNTY LIBRARY STATE AID GRANT APPLICATION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO BOARD AUTHORIZE THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR TO SUBMIT THE STATE AID TO LIBRARIES. OPERATING GRANT APPLICATION. AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND ANY RELATED SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENTS WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE'S DIVISION OF LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526, ITEM SEVEN RENTAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT AND RESOLUTION FOR THE ENCLAVE AT NORTH SHORE. THE DEVELOPMENT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT VERIFICATION OF CONTRIBUTION SHIP LOAN FOR $340,000 ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022 UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY ITEM EIGHT BUILDER SAFETY AMEND FEE AND FINES. REBATE RESOLUTION SACHSE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION, AMENDING ITS FEE AND FINES SCHEDULE TO PROVIDE A DISCOUNT FOR BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION FEES. ITEM NINE EXTENSION OF THE 2025 ASSESSMENT RULE. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD REVIEW AND ADOPT RESOLUTION EXTENDING THE 2025 AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT ROLL UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM TEN VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD APPOINTMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPOINT BRAD THOMAS FOR THE CITIZEN MEMBER SEAT TERM SET TO EXPIRE JANUARY 2026 UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES ITEM 11. GROUP HEALTH AND LIFE INSURANCE RENEWAL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE RENEWAL OF MEDICAL AND LIFE INSURANCE BENEFITS, [00:10:02] OFFERING THE SAME HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HSA QUALIFIED PLAN AS EXPIRING THROUGH FLORIDA SHERIFF'S EMPLOYEE BENEFITS TRUST FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 UNDER PURCHASING OFFICE ITEM 12 2545 ELECTRICAL AND OR MECHANICAL PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARDED AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN CONTRACTS WITH THE QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS FOR CONTRACT 2545 ELECTRICAL AND OR MECHANICAL PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES. ITEM 1320 548 PROFESSIONAL GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN CONTRACTS WITH THE QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS FOR CONTRACT 2548 PROFESSIONAL GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING SERVICES UNDER THE TDC. ITEM 14 FY 26 PANAMA CITY BEACH CVB, MEXICO BEACH AND PANAMA CITY CDC CONTRACTS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE FY 26 BUDGETS AND PROGRAMS OF WORK FOR THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC., THE MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, INC., AND THE PANAMA CITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, INC., AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE FY 26 MARKETING AND PROMOTIONAL PROMOTIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS INCORPORATING THESE BUDGETS AND PROGRAMS UNDER UTILITY SERVICES. ITEM 15 WATER DISTRIBUTION METERS AND REGISTERS. PURCHASE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. BOARD AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PURCHASE 5/8 INCH RADIO REED MASTER METERS, ACCU LINKS, REGISTERS AND CELLULAR ENDPOINTS FROM EMPIRE PIPE AND SUPPLY AND THE AMOUNT OF $540,829 TO ACCOMMODATE SYSTEM GROWTH AND NEW SERVICE CONNECTIONS AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEASE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE GO TO REGULAR AGENDA. WE START PUBLIC HEARING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MR. [Community Development] WAYNE PORTER. FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER 16. PLD, PA 2025 0040. LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT 1011. HIGHWAY 386. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON MARCH 18TH, 2025, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST TO AMEND THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO CHANGE 100 AND 136 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL TIMBERLAND DESIGNATION TO THE MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1011 HIGHWAY 386, IN THE UNINCORPORATED MEXICO BEACH AREA AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOMMENDED TRANSMITTAL TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE FOR ANALYSIS. ON APRIL 15TH, 2025, THIS BOARD CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTED TO TRANSMIT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE FTC. THE FTC REVIEW CONCLUDED THAT THEY HAD NO OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE MEXICO BEACH CITY JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS AND WEST OF THE GULF COUNTY BOUNDARY LINE. THE CITY OF MEXICO BEACH IS THE UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDER FOR THE AREA. THE APPLICANT HAS DISCUSSED ANNEXATION INTO MEXICO BEACH AS WELL AS UTILITY SERVICES WITH CITY OFFICIALS. THE MASTER PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION PROPOSES 368 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AS WELL AS AREAS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE. THE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY PERMITTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS 25 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, CONTINGENT UPON THE AVAILABILITY OF FACILITIES AND SERVICES. PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA IN AN AREA WHERE THERE IS. THERE ARE DENSELY POPULATED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE LIMITED CLOSE RANGE ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL USES, SUCH AS SUPERMARKETS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG HIGHWAY 386, WHICH IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THOROUGHFARE IN BAY COUNTY AND GULF COUNTIES AND NEARBY COMMUNITIES. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. QUESTION I HAVE. YOU GOT THE BOUNDARY ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER THAT BISECTS. IS THAT A POWER LINE EASEMENT OR. THAT IS A EASEMENT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS WITH FDOT, WITH FDOT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. JUST ONE THING. YOU DID SAY THAT THEY WERE IN CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WATER AND SEWER WITH MEXICO, BUT WE NEED TO, I GUESS, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY THAT. NO, MA'AM. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE CAPABLE OF SUPPLYING THE QUANTITY OF WATER. WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST NOT THE UTILITY PROVIDER. SO THE CITY OF MEXICO BEACH, THOSE RESIDENTS WILL BE CUSTOMERS OF THE CITY OF MEXICO BEACH FOR WATER AND SEWER. THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY. YEAH. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS THAT. I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO THEY'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH THE CITY AND WITH GULF COUNTY [00:15:07] REPRESENTATIVES REGARDING UTILITY SERVICES. SO OUR ROLE IS A WHOLESALE. WE'RE NOT A RETAIL IN THIS AREA. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. WE'RE NOT RETAIL THEM MORE BECAUSE THEY CAN. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. APPLICANT OR APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE LIKE TO COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. MIKE BURKE 16215 PANAMA CITY BEACH PARKWAY. HERE, ON BEHALF OF BUBBA AND BARBARA HARMON AND NICKEL CREEK DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. I WON'T GO THROUGH WHAT? WAYNE JUST WENT THROUGH THE HISTORY FOR YOU, BUT I'LL ANSWER A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER CARROLL AND PEASE HAD. THAT IS THE GULF TO BAY CONNECTOR. THAT WAS THE PROJECT, OR THAT WAS A PARCEL THAT THE HARMON SOLD TO FDOT FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND THAT THAT PROJECT STARTED WHEN I WAS A YOUNG LAWYER HERE SITTING WHERE BRIAN IS NOW. AND I HAD HOPES THAT ONE DAY WE WOULD SEE THAT HAPPEN. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME. THAT WAS ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO. BUT IF IT DOES, THE HARMONS HAVE ALREADY SOLD THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO HAPPEN. BUT NO EXPECTATION OF THAT ANYTIME SOON. WATER AND SEWER. THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE ON THIS. IS THAT PART OF IT IS LOCATED IN GULF COUNTY, WHERE MOSTLY THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GO. AND SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN GULF OR THE CITY OF PORT SAINT JOE AND MEXICO BEACH. ORIGINALLY, MEXICO BEACH WAS CONCERNED THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SERVE IT. I BELIEVE THAT HAS CHANGED NOW. MEXICO CITY OF PORT SAINT JOE IS ALSO CONDUCTING A STUDY TO SERVICE IT. SO THE DEVELOPMENT. YES. THE DEVELOPERS DO NOT EXPECT BAY COUNTY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT WORKED OUT BEFORE THEY COME TO YOU BEFORE A DEVELOPMENT ORDER. SO IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE. I'VE GOT A QUESTION, CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. SO YOU STATED THAT THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE IN GULF COUNTY, BUT WITH THIS BEING A MIXED USE AND YOU HAVE THE VARIETY OF USES, YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO USE THAT PIECE TO GO TOWARDS COMMERCIAL. THERE IS IT'S A I SAY THAT, I SAY THAT IN THAT IT'S GOING TO THERE'S A FRONTAGE PIECE THERE. SO THE IT'S A SMALL SLIVER IF YOU LOOK ON THE ON YOUR MAP THERE WHERE YOU SEE ABOUT WHERE THE SIX IS ON 386, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT ENDS. SO YOU'VE GOT ENTRANCE COMING IN TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND TO THE REALLY AS WE'VE PROPOSED IT RIGHT NOW INTO THAT PROJECT. BUT NO, THE, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR YOUR MIXED USE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMMINGLE TWO CODES. NO, NO NO SIR, NO, SIR. WE'VE WE'VE PLANNED IT FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO COME IN THROUGH THERE. AND SO THERE'S A, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A CONFLICT, BUT THERE IS AN INTERESTING SCENARIO ABOUT WHO PROVIDES WATER AND SEWER ACROSS THAT PART OF IT, ACROSS THE STREET NEAR ANOTHER TIME ZONE AS WELL. SO YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. TO GET THE WATER AN HOUR EARLIER IF THEY GET IT FROM OVER THERE. SO THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. AGAIN THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, TURN IT BACK OVER TO. THE BOARD. WE REVIEWED THIS BEFORE. CAME BEFORE US THE FIRST TIME. WENT TO THE STATE. THE STATE HAD NO OBJECTIONS. TO DATE, WE STILL HAVE NOT HAD ANYONE AGAINST IT, SO I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. SECOND MOTION IN MULTIPLE SECONDS. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEASE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NEXT. NOW. ZONE CHANGE. ZC 2025 0039. ZONE CHANGE 1011. HIGHWAY 386. MR. PORTER. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. I DO. ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO REPORT? I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH THE PROPERTY. I SPOKE WITH MY STAFF, WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKE TO NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, SPOKEN TO NO ONE. AND FAMILIAR WITH PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, THIS IS THE THE CORRESPONDING ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION GOES ALONG WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT YOU JUST HEARD ON MARCH 18TH, 2025. THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING, A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF 136 ACRES FROM AG TO AGRICULTURE TIMBERLAND TO THE MIXED LAND USE DESIGNATION. [00:20:04] PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1011 HIGHWAY 386, IN THE UNINCORPORATED MEXICO BEACH AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, AND ADOPT THE ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. AGAIN, WE'VE HAD NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS THIS ITEM. OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE. APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK. MIKE BURKE ONE 60 ONE FIVE PANAMA CITY PARKWAY. HERE, ON BEHALF OF THE HARMONS AND NICKEL CREEK, I WAS SWORN IN. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO SAY OTHER THAN WHAT WE SAID IN THE LAST HEARING. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU SIR. AND AGAIN, PART OF THE PUBLIC IS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD. MOTION TO APPROVE. INTERPRET A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION A SECOND IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEASE. YES. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE P PA 2025 015 AND PL ZBA 2025 0148. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE 3730 AND 3720 FOR CHANDLER FENN DRIVE. THIS IS A COMBO. SO ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR HAND AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. DO. EX PARTE. YEAH. OKAY. SPOKEN WITH STAFF, THAT'S ALL THE PROPERTIES. THE PROPERTY HAVE SPOKEN TO ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY? SPOKEN WITH NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. THANK YOU. ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 5.4 ACRES FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF 6.7 ACRES FROM C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND R5 MULTIFAMILY LIGHT TO R-1 SINGLE FAMILY. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3730 AND 3724 CHANDLER DRIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ACCESSED BY A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY ONLY. THE HISTORIC USE OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL LAND USES LOCATED DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE REQUESTED CHANGES CHANGES REPRESENT THE HISTORICAL USE OF THE PROPERTY. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. I WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THESE ITEMS. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO. IT APPEARS THAT WE'VE GOT. ARE WE SPLITTING THOSE PARCELS? THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE ON 231 ON SOUTH OF THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE THE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS CURRENTLY OWNS SOME OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S DIRECTLY WEST, KIND OF SOUTHWEST. THEIR INTENT IS TO KEEP THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, ALREADY, IS LOOKING TO PURCHASE THAT AND MERGE IT WITH THEIR PROPERTY TO EXPAND. WE WOULD HAVE A NEW LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THIS, CORRECT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ALWAYS WAIT ON THE ENGINEER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WAYNE. IS APPLICANT OR APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE HERE WISH TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. TURN THIS BACK OVER TO THE BOARD. LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OR WHAT MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. [00:25:02] SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PEES. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE PLD, PA 2025 0152 AND POC 2025 0153. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE. NORTH TYNDALL PARKWAY AND EAST 11TH STREET. THIS IS BOTH PUBLIC AND QUASI JUDICIAL, SO ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK OR TESTIFY, PLEASE STAND. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. EXPARTE, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD. ARE YOU WITH THE PROPERTY? SPOKEN TO STAFF? OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING. WITH THE PROPERTY SPOKEN TO. NO ONE HERE WITH THE PROPERTY HAVE SPOKEN TO NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN TO NO ONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKEN WITH NO ONE. MR. PORTER, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN ON AUGUST 19TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 3.8 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS TO TO SEE TO SEE THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH TYNDALL PARKWAY AND EAST 11TH STREET IN THE UNINCORPORATED SPRINGFIELD AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE BAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A CORRIDOR IN A CORRIDOR ALONG TYNDALL PARKWAY, WITH EXISTING COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USES AND THE ACCOMPANYING C-3 ZONING DESIGNATION. SIMILAR LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ALSO EXIST WITHIN THE CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SPRINGFIELD. THE PROPERTY MEETS THE BULK REGULATION REQUIREMENTS OF LDR. TABLE 6.1. STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCES. STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ISSUE. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU SIR. APPLICANTS. REP. I'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING. WILLIAM HARRISON, 101 HARRISON AVENUE. I'M HERE FOR THE APPLICANT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST THIS MORNING IS TO EXPAND FREESTANDING EMERGENCY CARE TO TYNDALL PARKWAY. SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN ON BACK BEACH ROAD IN 231. GULF COAST HCA HOSPITAL IS IS LOOKING TO EXPAND EMERGENCY CARE ON THE EAST SIDE FOR CALLAWAY, SPRINGFIELD, PARKER TYNDALL PARKWAY AND THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. SO WE WOULD SUPPORT YOUR REQUEST, YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. CHASE CHRISTIANSEN IS ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM. QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR. I'VE GOT NO OBJECTION TO IT. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. HEALTH CARE IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY. GOT TO HAVE IT. YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIALS, SO IT'S COMPATIBLE. THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK. YOU'LL HAVE YOUR BUFFER, SO NO ISSUE THERE. BUT SINCE IT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE SPRINGFIELD UTILITIES, I ASSUME YOU'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH SPRINGFIELD. THEY'LL PROVIDE UTILITIES EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THEIR CITY. CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. PERFECT. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SIR? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS BEING PUBLIC HEARING IS. ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER. SEEING NONE. FOR THE BOARD. MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. MR. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE. PLD PA 2025 0132 AND PL ZBA 2025 0139. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE 2312 MOUND AVENUE. AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC AND QUASI JUDICIAL. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYBODY ELSE? DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EX PARTE I SPOKE WITH THE OWNER A LONG TIME AGO WHEN THIS WAS COMING FORWARD AND GOT A TEXT IN HOPING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT THE PROJECT. I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING. [00:30:01] OKAY. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MULTIPLE RESIDENTS, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH STAFF, AND I HAVE BEEN TO THE SITE MULTIPLE TIMES. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE RESIDENTS. I HAVE VISITED THE PROPERTY MULTIPLE TIMES AND I'VE SPOKEN TO STAFF MULTIPLE TIMES. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. MULTIPLE RESIDENTS VISITED THERE MANY TIMES. RIGHT. SPOKEN WITH STAFF, SPOKEN WITH RESIDENTS, SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT AND FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. WAYNE, IF YOU WOULD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.24 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND A CHANGE IN ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY TO C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2312 MOUND AVENUE IN THE UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY AREA. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONE CHANGE IN CHANGES INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE APPLICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED IN OCTOBER OF 2013. THE REQUESTED CHANGES WERE THE SAME AS THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ZONING SOUGHT IN THE CURRENT APPLICATIONS. IN FEBRUARY OF 2014, THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THOSE APPLICATION REQUESTS. AT SOME TIME DURING BETWEEN 2013 AND 2016, THE PROPERTY OWNER BEGAN TO USE THE PROPERTY AS AN EXTENSION OF THE SALES AND STORAGE LOT FOR THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. THE HOME ONCE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY WAS REMOVED AND THE PARCEL EVENTUALLY PAVED OVER. AS THIS COMMERCIAL USE WAS NOT PERMITTED BY ZONING, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFIED THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THIS VIOLATION AGAIN IN JULY OF 2023, THE OWNER SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS. THE OWNER THEN CONTINUED TO REQUEST THAT THE INITIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS BE POSTPONED, SO THAT THEY MAY COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THERE WAS NEVER EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT THE APPLICANT OWNER ATTEMPTED TO SPEAK WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. WHEN STAFF CAN NO LONGER GRANT THESE APPLICATION EXTENSIONS, THE APPLICANT AGAIN WITHDREW THE APPLICATIONS AND BROUGHT THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY REMOVING A PORTION OF THE PAVEMENT AND BY REMOVING THE INVENTORY THAT WAS STORED ON THE PROPERTY. THE EXISTING RV BUSINESS AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS TRANSITIONS INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. FURTHER ENCROACHMENT OF THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND REPRESENTS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND COULD NOT, AND COULD HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF AGREES WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. LEADING UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, STAFF RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 62 EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE. ALL BUT TWO OF THOSE WERE IN OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THOSE IN OBJECTION THAT WERE DUPLICATE. WE HAD 3 OR 4 PERSONS SENT MORE THAN ONE EMAIL THEN LEADING UP TO THIS, TO THIS HEARING I BELIEVE THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED A COUPLE EMAILS IN OBJECTION AS WELL THAT HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO PLANNING AND ZONING. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? YES, SIR. WAYNE, THIS IS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THESE QUITE A FEW TIMES OVER THE YEARS WHERE IT'S ENCROACHING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN WE GET A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, WE GET SOME RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. SO JUST FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS VERSUS OTHERS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED. IS IT BECAUSE THERE WERE EXISTING BUSINESSES ON THEM OR. I THINK THE REQUEST TO GO FROM RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, THE MOST LEAST INTENSIVE FORM OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE ONE OF THE MORE INTENSIVE FORMS OF COMMERCIAL ZONING IS THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE. IS THERE ANY OTHER ZONING CATEGORY THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO ALLOW THE USE THAT THEY HAVE OF STORAGE OR SALE OF THE RV'S? NO. A LESSER CATEGORY, THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING WOULD BE THE ZONING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THEM TO USE THE PROPERTY AS THEY WISH TO USE IT, OR C3A RIGHT. COULD THEY USE C3A CORRECT. SO THIS IS FOR FOR THEIR INTENDED USE. IT'S THE LEAST ZONING CATEGORY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF C3A THAT COULD BE DONE. AND EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 24TH COURT, STILL GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST TRYING TO AVOID THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CORRECT. AND MOUND AVENUE IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CORNER WHERE THE BOAT LEASING OPERATION USED TO BE, [00:35:08] THE OLD ISLAND SEAFOOD. WITH EXCEPTION TO THAT, THERE SHOULD BE NO DRIVEWAYS ACCESS ONTO THAT ROADWAY, RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL STREET? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO COME AND SPEAK? I HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS CURRENT. I'D LIKE TO NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. BRIAN BOYD, 7508 NAUTICAL COURT, SOUTHPORT. I HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU GUYS LOOK AT. OKAY. RIGHT DOWN HERE. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE CHANGE OF THE LAND DESIGNATION FROM THAT PROPERTY, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL, AS THE PROPERTY ALREADY REPRESENTS A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE BUSINESS FOOTPRINT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH. THE WESTERN BORDERLINE OF THE PROPERTY. CAMPING WORLD ALONG MOUND AVENUE FROM 23RD STREET ALL THE WAY UP TO 2316 MOUND AVENUE, HAS NOT SEEN ANY INCREASE IN TRAFFIC OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS AS A RESULT OF CAMPING WORLD BEING THERE, CHANGING THAT SMALL PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WILL NOT CHANGE THAT AT ALL. THERE'S NO INGRESS OR EGRESS TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S ALREADY SECURELY FENCED IN WITH A SEVEN FOOT HIGH PRIVACY FENCE. WITH A CHAIN LINK FENCE THERE. AND FROM THE LAST MEETING, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ABOUT OUR FUTURE EXPANSION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S REALLY AFRAID OF. IS WHAT'S CAMPING WORLD GOING TO DO NEXT? RIGHT. WE ARE GROWING, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. WE ARE GROWING LARGELY DUE TO THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT. SO WE DID, AND WE'VE OUTGROWN OUR LITTLE SPOT THAT WE HAVE. SO WE DID AT ONE POINT THINK TO EXPAND NORTH ON MOUND, THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR SALE, AND THEN WE BOUGHT IT. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ADJACENT TO OURS THAT WE WENT INTO TALKS TO, TO PURCHASE IT, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. BUT WHILE THAT HAPPENED, WHILE WE WERE DOING THAT, THE GRANT ONE ON THE CORNER OF GRANT AND 24TH COURT BECAME AVAILABLE ALREADY COMMERCIAL. WE TOOK IT, JUMPED RIGHT ON IT. RIGHT. THAT PROPERTY WILL SERVE EVERY BIT OF STORAGE NEEDS THAT WE NEED FOR THE FUTURE. BUT THAT'S ALL WE NEEDED. WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE JUST ABOUT THAT MUCH ROOM, AND THAT ONE JUST HAPPENED TO COME UP ON PUBLIC AUCTION AT THE TAX SALE. AND SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WE DUCKED OUT OF THE OF THE, OF THE PURCHASE THAT WE HADN'T COMPLETED YET. AND THEN WE IMMEDIATELY SOLD THE OTHER PROPERTY ON MOUNT AVENUE THAT WE DID HAVE. SO WE DON'T OWN THAT. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO INTENTION OF GOING ANYWHERE UP MOUNT AVENUE. THE MOUNT AVENUE PARCEL IS INCLUDED IN OUR ACTIVE LEASE AGREEMENT. AND AS THAT AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH STATES, IT SHOWS THAT IT'S A SEAMLESS PART OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE FOR NOW AND FOREVER. WHETHER THIS GOES OR IT DOESN'T, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S A PIECE OF A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SHE GETS ALL THE TIME. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M SORRY. PLEASE CONTINUE. OKAY. SO FURTHERMORE, WE'VE WE'VE ALSO DONE STUFF TO ADD TO THE LANDSCAPING ALL THE WAY UP MOUNT AVENUE. DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT TO BE PART OF IT. WHEN WE DID RENOVATIONS TO OUR ENTIRE FACILITY, WE WENT AND WE ADDED PINE STRAW AND BUSHES AND IRRIGATION ALL THE WAY UP MOUNT AVENUE JUST TO HELP THAT LOOK AS WELL. EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS TO IMPROVE THE LOOKS OF OUR OWN PROPERTY IS DONE ALSO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MIND. THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD TOO, RIGHT? NOT JUST IN THE FACT THAT I WORK HERE OR I RUN A BUSINESS HERE, BUT I ALSO LIVED THERE, RIGHT? I DON'T NOW, BUT I DID. I LIVED THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NOTHING WE WANT TO DO BAD TO IT, RIGHT? WE'RE HERE TO MAKE THE ENTIRE THING GREAT WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND US. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS. I MEAN, WE JUST. WE JUST WANT THE BEST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR. I THINK YOU'RE I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT WHEN YOU SAY THE RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED THAT YOU GUYS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE [00:40:07] NORTH. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU CLARIFIED THAT. THAT'S NOT THE INTENTIONS. NO. AND SO YOU STATING THAT MEANS THAT, GRANTED, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TODAY, THIS IS THIS IS WHERE IT STOPS. THAT LINE, THAT TREE LINE AND THAT TREE LINE. THAT'S WHERE IT STOPS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR. SO YOU GAVE US. I ASSUME THESE ARE ALL THE SAME PHOTOGRAPH? YES. SO LOOKING AT THIS PIECE, THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN PAVED ON. IS THIS THE FULL WIDTH OF THE 75 FOOT LOT? YES, SIR. SO IT STOPS HERE? YES. RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THAT RV. SO EVEN IF THIS WERE COMMERCIAL. COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL. WAYNE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 20 OR 25 FOOT BUFFER, RIGHT? SO EVEN IF IT WERE APPROVED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE 25FT OF THAT ASPHALT. YES. WE WOULD CREATE A BUFFER TO THAT RESIDENTIAL RIGHT. WE WOULD IN EFFECT WE'RE GOING TO GAIN 15% MORE. BUT IF WE TOOK THAT ENTIRE GRASS SPACE, WHICH IS 40, AND WE TOOK THAT DOWN TO WHAT CAN YOU HAVE 25 FOOT, YOU GOT TO ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GAIN LIKE 15%. BUT ALL THAT GRASS SPACE, WE'D HAVE 25 THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE, THE ONE NEXT TO JIM URBAN'S PROPERTY. YES. SO THIS ASPHALT WOULD BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH LANDSCAPING. YES. AND OR MAYBE A SOLID FACE FENCE, JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT THIS IS INTERESTING THAT BECAUSE THAT QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, WE REZONED A PIECE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PIECE AND DIDN'T HAVE A SEPARATE PARCEL. COULD THIS BE DONE THE SAME WAY TO WHERE YOU DO COMMERCIAL ZONING? THIS WAY, LEAVING RESIDENTIAL AND BUFFERS ON THE SIDES? JUST ASKING. I WISH WE HAD THIS ON THE SCREEN. EVERYBODY COULD SEE IF THE. I COULD TURN ON THE. THANK YOU. TRYING TO GET PHOTOS AS WELL TO SHOW MAYBE SOME OF THAT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING. I'M JUST ASKING. COULD THAT BE A REQUEST TO LEAVE? BASICALLY, THE GRASS AREA THAT YOU SEE THERE, LEAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL AND THE NORTH 25FT LEAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL. THAT WAY THERE'S GUARANTEE THERE'S NO ENCROACHMENTS ALLOWED WITHIN THOSE AREAS. SO THE QUESTION IS TO LEAVE THE CURRENT GRASS AREA AS RESIDENTIAL. YES. AND THE NORTH 25FT ALONG THAT RESIDENTIAL PARCEL. WELL, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE A DECISION THAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO MAKE. THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICATION AS IT IS, IS TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE PARCEL. IF THE ENTIRE PARCEL WAS APPROVED TO BE COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THE APPLICANT MERGED THIS PROPERTY WITH THE REST OF THEIR PROPERTY. WE WOULD STILL WANT TO LOOK AT ENFORCING, OBVIOUSLY, THE 25 FOOT BUFFER TO THE NORTH. AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO DRAINAGE ISSUES. WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, OR HAVE LOOKED AT, POSSIBLY INSTEAD OF FENCING ON THE PROPERTY LINE, FENCING THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUFFER. SO THE LANDSCAPING IS JOINED BY THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. IS THAT AN OPTION? DO THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO ANYONE HAS THE OPTION TO USE A FENCE IN LIEU OF THE THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER? IF THEY IF THEY USE THE FENCE. A SIX FOOT HIGH WOODEN PRIVACY FENCE. YOU STILL HAVE TO LEAVE 25FT FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE UNDISTURBED. MEANING? NO. NO PLACEMENT OF ANY STORAGE MATERIALS? NO. NO PAVED AREAS. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IS THAT INSTEAD OF PUTTING A FENCE ON A PROPERTY LINE, PULL THAT FENCE 25FT BACK TO WHERE THAT VEGETATION IS GUARANTEED TO BE ENJOYED BY THE NEIGHBORS. YES. THAT COULD. OKAY. I JUST I'M JUST I'M GETTING MY THOUGHTS EVERYWHERE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE TO HEAR FROM. BUT ANYWAY, JUST CURIOUS. THAT COULD BE A POSSIBLE CONDITION IF APPROVED. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW LONG HAS IT EVOLVED? IT WAS PRIOR TO. IT WAS A DIFFERENT ENTITY. HOW LONG HAS THIS FACILITY BEEN IN OPERATION AT THIS LOCATION? 12 YEARS. IT'S BEEN A CAMPING PLACE PRIOR TO THAT? YES, IT WAS HOLIDAY WEEK. CAMPING WORLD HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE JUST AFTER TO 2013. I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT DATE, EXACT DATE, BUT IT WAS IN 2013 THAT WE BOUGHT HISTORY. HOW LONG HAS THE FACILITY BEEN IN OPERATION AS THIS TYPE OF FACILITY ON THIS LOCATION? MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. YEAH. A LITTLE OVER 40 YEARS. SO 40 YEARS. YOU'VE HAD A COMMERCIAL OPERATION IN THIS LOCATION? YEAH, THERE'S BEEN COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS ON THAT PROPERTY OTHER THAN THE RV BUSINESS. MORE THAN 60. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. [00:45:01] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE AGAIN. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER. APPLICANT. OKAY. PLEASE COME FORWARD. HELLO. MY NAME IS DAVID MEADOWS, 230 WOODLAWN DRIVE, PANAMA CITY BEACH. I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THE HOLIDAY ON WHEELS OF PANAMA CITY. THERE HAS BEEN A BUSINESS THERE FOR 60 PLUS YEARS. IT WAS A SHRIMP FARM AT ONE TIME AND THEN MY OPERATION WAS THERE AFTER THAT. I BOUGHT IT FROM MR. FAIRCLOTH, AND IT WAS BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT WE CHANGED THE NAME OF IT TO TRY TO GET AROUND ALL THIS. WELL, IT WAS DONE BECAUSE THE TRUST OFFICER TOLD ME TO DO IT AND MY ACCOUNTANT TOLD ME TO DO IT. PUT IT ALL INTO ONE COLUMN WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. SO THAT'S WHAT I DID. WE'VE BEEN PAYING ON IT LIKE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WE'VE BEEN PAYING OUR SALES TAX ON IT OR DISCRETIONARY INCOME ON IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. NOW, WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY GETTING THEIR 1%. AND THANK GOODNESS GOVERNOR DESANTIS IS TAKING IT AWAY. I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF GOING ANY FURTHER NORTH AT ALL. I DON'T WANT ANY MORE PROPERTY. I GOT I GOT MORE THAN I WANT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE END OF IT FOR ME. BUT I ASK YOU THAT WE YOU SUPPORT MY APPLICATION, AND IT'S BEEN A LONG BATTLE. WE'VE FOUGHT OTHER OBSTACLES. NO NAME CALLING, BUT WE FOUGHT A BUNCH OF THEM. BUT I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO SUPPORT HIM AND TO CHANGING IT. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING TO THE PEOPLE HERE. YOU DON'T INTEND TO GO NORTH BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS. WHEN I VISITED WITH WITH PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE CONCERNED. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL GO EVEN A STEP FURTHER IF THEY GOT A GRIPE ABOUT THE ACCESS BACK IN THE BACK. THERE'S A FENCE BACK IN THE BACK. THERE'S TWO GATES, ONE TOWARDS THE NORTH OF IT, ONCE TOWARDS THE SOUTH OF IT COMING TO 23RD STREET. I'LL MAKE THAT. I'LL HAVE IT TO WHERE? IT'S A SOLID FENCE THERE TO CLOSE THAT GATE OFF COMPLETELY. IF THAT'S A CONTENTION WITH THE MATTER. AND SINCE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 25 FOOT. I BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THAT'S ANY COMMERCIAL AGAINST RESIDENTIAL. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT BUFFER. IT'S EITHER 20 OR 25 LANE. CAN YOU CORRECT ME WHERE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL IS 25? 25. OKAY. SO ON THAT STRIP, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE PICTURE WHERE THOSE TREES ARE BEHIND THOSE CAMPERS. WOULD YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION? I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO, BUT IF IT WERE TO PUT A FENCE ON THE INSIDE OF THE 25. SO THE 25 IS ENJOYED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING OR FENCING. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN THAT 25FT. SO THE 25 HAS TO BE LANDSCAPED EITHER INSIDE YOUR FENCE OR OUTSIDE YOUR FENCE. I'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. NOW, ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS MATTER AS THE APPLICANT, AS COMMISSIONER CARROLL POINTED OUT, THE APPLICANT HAS UNLIMITED TIME FOR EACH OF Y'ALL. IT'LL BE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I'M BILL DOZIER, BAY COUNTY. BILL DOZIER, 1604 CALHOUN AVENUE. COUNTY COMMISSIONER. I'M SORRY. 1604 CALHOUN AVENUE, PANAMA CITY, FLORIDA. 32405. JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO BREEZE THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK BECAUSE THREE MINUTES GOES BY QUICK. CAMPING WORLD IS A YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THEY'RE A QUALITY ORGANIZATION. THEY DO GOOD WORK. I'M GLAD TO HAVE THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE BOUGHT CAMPERS THERE MYSELF AND I HOPE THEY THRIVE IN THE FUTURE. BUT THERE'S A RIGHT WAY AND A WRONG WAY TO EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS. SOME YEARS BACK THEY WERE GOING TO EXPAND THE BUSINESS. THEY BOUGHT THAT LOT. THEY BOUGHT THERE WAS A HOUSE ON THAT LOT, AND THEY BOUGHT IT. AND AND I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS TIMELINE REAL QUICK. [00:50:04] THE FIRST TIME THEY APPLIED WAS 2013, 2014. THEY WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION. I BELIEVE THEY WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T PASS 2018. MICHAEL HIT THEY REMOVED THE HOUSE IN 20 RIGHT AFTER MICHAEL HIT, THEY REMOVED THE HOUSE AND PUT UP A FENCE. THEY PAVED THE LOT. 100% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, WHICH IS AGAINST THE RULES. CODE ENFORCEMENT WENT OUT THERE, CITED THEM FOR IT. TOLD THEM THEY HAD TO REMOVE THE PAVEMENT, WHICH THEY DID. THEY REMOVED THE PAVEMENT. AND AND THEN PUT GRAVEL IN IN THERE. THEY FENCED IT OFF AT THAT TIME. IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOREVER. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR LOOKING AT THAT LOT AND SAYING, WELL, THIS IS A NATURAL FIT. WHY DON'T THEY JUST MOVE THEIR CAMPERS OVER HERE? AND SO THAT'S JUST NATURALLY WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE IT'S FENCED IN, GRASS HAS GROWN ON THE FENCE AND EVERYTHING. 2013 THEY APPLIED AGAIN AND WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION AGAIN. I BELIEVE THEY WITHDREW THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WOULD NOT PASS. NOW YOU COME TO 2015. FAST FORWARD TO TO 2015. THEY'VE APPLIED FOR REZONING. THE REZONING BOARD TURNED THEM DOWN. STAFF HAS HAS ASKED YOU TO TURN THEM DOWN. STAFF HAS NOT UPHELD THE APPLICATION. THEY THEY SAID THAT THEY WILL NOT UPHOLD IT. AND AND SO IT'S UP TO THIS BOARD TO STOP THE ENCROACHMENT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ENCROACHMENT. YEARS AGO, WE DREW A LINE IN THE SAND WHERE THAT HOUSE WAS. NOW IT'S A VACANT LOT. IT'S FENCED IN. WE DREW A LINE IN THE SAND AND SAID, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, SAID, OKAY, IT DOES NOT COMMERCIAL, DOES NOT NEED TO GO PAST THIS LINE. ALL THIS IS TAKING PLACE. THEY'VE GONE AROUND THE RULES TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY WITHOUT COMING TO THE COUNTY, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROPER PROCEDURES. AND AND SO WITH THEM GOING AROUND THE RULES, THE LINE IN THE SAND THAT WE HAVE HAS MOVED NOW TO THE NEXT ONE, I BELIEVE. AS A JUST AS A REGULAR CITIZEN, THAT THE LINE WILL MOVE AGAIN SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY IT WON'T. THEY HAVE. THEY'VE ALREADY STATED IN THEIR STATEMENT THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE FAR SIDE WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE MOVING NOW. THEY BOUGHT IT USED TO BE A FRUIT STAND THERE ON THAT CORNER. THEY'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AND THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO TO DO THE CAMPERS THERE. THEY DON'T NEED THAT LOT FOR ENCROACHMENT IN IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE RESIDENTS HAVE STOOD UP AND SPOKE AGAINST IT. SPOKEN AGAINST IT. THEY'VE ASKED ME TO STAND WITH THEM, AND I AM. AND I JUST ASK THIS BOARD TO DENY THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE THE ENCROACHMENT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO STOP. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. CHRISTOPHER PADILLA, 2317 MOUNT AVENUE. THREE LOTS UP AND ACROSS THE STREET. I DON'T THINK THAT CAMPING WORLD SHOULD BE REWARDED FOR DOING THIS. BACKHANDEDLY. THEY HAD A CONTRACT AT ONE TIME WITH A NEIGHBOR ON THE NEXT PROPERTY TO CONTINGENT UPON REZONING THIS PROPERTY TO BY HIS TO DO THE SAME THING. HE HAS TOLD ME PERSONALLY HE WOULD TAKE THAT CONTRACT AGAIN IN A SECOND, BECAUSE HIS VALUE AND HIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO GO DOWN AS SOON AS THEY MOVE FURTHER NORTH. IT'S TERRIBLE FOR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S LIT 24 HOURS A DAY. THERE'S SECURITY PATROLLING AT NIGHT. IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD YOU WANT TO LIVE IN. I MEAN, WHERE'S THE LINE DRAWN? AND YES, HE SAYS TODAY THAT HE'S NOT PLANNING ON EXPANDING, BUT HE COULD CHANGE HIS MIND THE MINUTE HE WALKS OUT THIS DOOR. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE HERE. SO WHAT'S STOPPING HIM FROM DOING THAT? THE FENCE IS CHAIN LINK FENCE. WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOME, HE WAS DOWN THE STREET, AND THAT'S FINE. WE KNEW HE WAS DOWN THE STREET. I DON'T MIND CAMPING WORLD BEING DOWN THE STREET. I DON'T MIND THE BUSINESS BEING SUCCESSFUL. BUT I DIDN'T BUY THE PLACE BECAUSE I WANTED 24 HOUR LIGHTS ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S. IT'S JUST BAD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO DO THIS. AND I AM PRO-BUSINESS. I OPERATE A SMALL BUSINESS MYSELF. BUT IT'S LIKE LIVING ACROSS FROM A CAMPING PARK, A TRAILER PARK. DO YOU GUYS WANT THAT IN YOUR FRONT YARDS? THAT'S WHAT'S COMING. THAT'S WHERE THIS IS GOING. HE'S GETTING CLOSER TO MY FRONT YARD. HE'LL BE ACROSS THE STREET IN TWO MORE LOTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS. [00:55:03] THIS IS BAD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M AGAINST IT. AS A CITIZEN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET. THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS TOM SHACKLEY. I LIVE AT 2311 MOUNT AVENUE. I ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER AND HAVE POA FOR 2313 MOUNT AVENUE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE PROPERTY LINES IN CAMPING WORLD FROM WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO 23RD STREET, NONE OF US ARE OPPOSED TO IT. WE ARE THE ONES THAT DIRECTLY LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY AND WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO IT. CAMPING WORLD ON ITS OWN. SINCE I MOVED THERE IN 2017, LANDSCAPED ALL THAT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THE BAD NEIGHBOR THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PORTRAY THEM TO BE. I DON'T NOTICE THE LIGHTING PROBLEM. I WOULD RATHER HAVE SOME LIGHTING ON THAT STREET THAN A DARK STREET. AND I DON'T SEE WHAT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY VALUES WILL BE, OR ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES. IT'S JUST PEOPLE'S EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS. I'VE HEARD NOBODY SHARE ANY HARD NUMBERS THAT THIS IS GOING TO DEVALUE OUR PROPERTY. I REALLY WANT YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT'S A BETTER USE THAN WHAT IT WAS AFTER THE HURRICANE. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A CRACK HOUSE. PEOPLE WERE LIVING IN IT, COMING AND GOING. I COULD HAVE DONE A BACK FLIP AFTER THEY BOUGHT IT BECAUSE IT WAS DONE, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF PERSON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND NOBODY ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVER WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY AND CAMPING WORLD DID. SO I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN TO SUPPORT CAMPING WORLD ON THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DAN STOWELL. I LIVE AT 2323 MOUNT AVENUE. MY WIFE AND I ALSO OWN 2321 MOUNT AVENUE. COMMISSIONERS, WE SIMPLY WANT YOU TO UPHOLD THE RECOMMENDATION. RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE TWICE DENIED THIS ZONING REQUEST. MOUNT AVENUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A A RESIDENTIAL STREET, NOT A COMMERCIAL STREET. AS NOTED, CAMPING WORLD HAS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT GRANT 24TH COURT, WHICH GIVES THEM ALL THE PROPERTY THEY NEED. AS ALSO NOTED, THEY THUMBED THEIR NOSE AT THE RULES IN THE PAST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PAVING WHEN THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO. AND THEN SO THEY'VE PROVEN THAT THEY DON'T MIND PLAYING OUTSIDE THE OUTSIDE THE RULES. ALSO MR. WHITE STATED THAT THEY SOLD 2318 MOUNT AVENUE. I JUST CHECKED, YOU KNOW, HIS WEBSITE, AND WE'RE STILL SHOWING TERRY WATTS AND CAPTAIN WILLARD OWNING THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY SOLD IT. IF THEY SOLD IT WITHIN THE LAST WEEK, WE MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE THE DEED YET, BUT APPARENTLY THEY STILL OWN 2318. AS NOTED, THEY OFFERED THEY OFFERED AN OFFER FROM 2316 AND THAT FELL THROUGH. SO WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING THAT YOU UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE AND THE COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THIS REQUEST AND HELP ELIMINATE WHAT WE CALL THE CAMPING WORLD CREEP DOWN MOUNT AVENUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE. THE PROPERTY. THINKS WE WE OWN IT. THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD AT AUCTION. SO THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A TRANSFER. SO IT WAS RECENTLY DONE. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT FORUM FOR THE TIMELINE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING FROM 2013 TO 16 AND, AND PAST THAT, BEEN CAMPERS ON THAT PART ON THAT PROPERTY FOR A PORTION OF IT. [01:00:01] THE HOUSE WAS THERE IN THE FRONT, PROBABLY TOOK UP HALF OF THE PROPERTY. THEN THERE WAS A FENCE AND THEN THE BACK WAS WAS PAVED, ALMOST LIKE IN YOUR PICTURE WHERE YOU SEE THE PAVED AND THE GRASSY AREA. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE GRASSY AREA. HURRICANE COMES IN 2018, RIGHT? WE TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE IN 2020. RIGHT. AND THEN WE PUT IN THE HARD PACK GRAVEL. AND THEN WE CONTINUED TO USE THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. WE USE WE PUT HARD PACKED GRAVEL AND PUT MOTOR HOMES FOR DISPLAY ON THERE THROUGH THE THROUGH 2023. THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S BEEN RVS ON THAT PROPERTY IN THAT CAPACITY, LIKE A STORAGE LOT, FOR THE BETTER PART OF NINE YEARS WITHOUT A SINGLE COMPLAINT. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL MR. DOZIER FILED THE COMPLAINT IN 2023 DID ALL THIS START. WERE THEY THERE IN VIOLATION? LOOK THAT I'LL TAKE I'LL TAKE THE HEAT FOR THAT. I'M NOT A CITY PERSON. I DON'T JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALREADY FENCED LIKE THIS. WE JUST MOVED OUR STUFF A LITTLE BIT OVER. WAS IT WRONG? OKAY. WHEN THEY TOLD ME IT WAS WRONG, WE FIXED IT. AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING ON THAT PROPERTY NOW FOR OVER A YEAR. WE'RE JUST ASKING TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO IT. PUT IT RIGHT BACK LIKE IT WAS WHEN NOBODY WAS COMPLAINING THAT IT WAS THERE. REMEMBER, NINE YEARS WENT BY AND NOBODY SAID A THING ABOUT RVS BEING ON THAT PROPERTY. NO COMPLAINTS, NO VIOLATIONS, NO NOTHING. ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A COMPLAINT. AND IT DIDN'T EVEN START WITH THE NEIGHBORS. IT STARTED WITH MR.. THE COMMISSIONER. SO CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES, SIR. ABOUT LIGHTING. SO I HEARD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT LIGHTING. LIGHTING DOESN'T BOTHER THEM. DOES BOTHER THEM. DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING IS OUT THERE? YES I DO. AND WE DON'T HAVE EXTRA LIGHTING OF ANY KIND. IT'S JUST ON THE POWER POLES. WE HAVE LED LIGHTINGS THAT THAT ARE JUST IN THEIR DIRECTIONAL THAT ONLY GO TOWARDS THE LOT. THEY DON'T. THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE BRAND NEW. THEY'RE LED ONES THAT THE GULF POWER JUST PUT UP. WE HAD THEM REPLACED AND THEIR THEIR SPAN IS JUST OUT AND IN ON THE POWER POLES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT ALONG THE BACK PART OF THE LOT THERE. YEAH. ARE THEY SHIELDED TO WHERE THEY DON'T BLEED OVER. YES. THEY'RE THE THEY'RE THE NEW DIRECTIONAL KIND OF LED ONES WHERE THEY DON'T THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE A BIG, THEY LITERALLY JUST GO SIDEWAYS AND FORWARD. OF COURSE EVERY TIME I GO IT'S ALWAYS DAYTIME. SO I THINK TO GO AT NIGHT TIME OUT THERE TO GO LOOK AT THE LIGHTING. YEAH. THERE WOULDN'T BE. AND THERE'S NO LIGHTING ALONG THE, THE, THE NORTHERN WALL. THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NO LIGHTING THERE OR THE WESTERN. THAT ENTIRE BACKSIDE HAS NO LIGHTING AT ALL. ARE YOU ADDING INTENTIONS OF ADDING LIGHTS? WE WOULD PROBABLY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU HAVE TO GET WITH GULF POWER. AND THAT'S TAKES 6 TO 8 MONTHS TO GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING. YEAH. BUT DO YOU HAVE INTENTIONS TO ADD LIGHTS? IF WE DID, WE WOULD PROBABLY PUT ONE IN THE CORNER. THAT WAS STILL SAME SORT OF LIGHTING. IT ONLY IS VERY DIRECTIONAL, THE WAY THEY CAN DO THOSE LEDS. NOW, IT'S IT'S ALL NOTHING TO THE SIDES AND JUST DOWN AND OUT. THIS IS KIND OF A STAFF APPLICANT TYPE. SO TYPICALLY NEW DEVELOPMENTS WE REQUIRE LIGHTING PLANS PHOTOMETRIC YOU KNOW APPROVE THAT THEY'RE SHIELDED. THEY'RE NOT BLEEDING OUT. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAT IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. BUT I WOULD ASK THAT CAN CAN GULF POWER CREATE A LIGHTING PLAN JUST TO HAVE FOR STAFF, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN VALIDATE THAT LIGHTING IS ADEQUATE? WE'RE NOT BLEEDING OUT. IS THAT SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE LIGHTS OUT THERE, WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS. YEAH, YEAH. OUR NEIGHBOR, OUR LIGHTING STOPS AT THE WHERE THE. YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE STOPS. THERE IS NO POLES OR LIGHTS IN WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ALL THAT'S NOT LIGHTED AT ALL. ANY FUTURE LIGHTING IS DONE. I JUST I WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH OUR STAFF. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, I JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT IF Y'ALL WOULD MIND JUST COORDINATING WITH THEM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT BLEEDING OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CERTAINLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE WITH APPLICANT RESPONSE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. PORTER. YES, SIR. AND I'LL STAND UP SO I CAN THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE THE FENCE LINE IS RIGHT HERE. FLAT LINE. IS THAT ACCURATE? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD. WELL, THE. SO THE PARCEL LINES YOU SEE ON OUR GIS ARE NOT SURVEY ACCURATE. OKAY, SO BASICALLY, IF THIS IS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE WHERE I CAN SEE THE FENCE HERE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THESE UNITS RIGHT HERE ARE PROBABLY WITHIN THE 25 FOOT BUFFER AS IT STANDS. IS THAT CORRECT. CLOSE TO IT. IT APPEARS IT COULD BE PRETTY CLOSE. YES, YES. SO JUST SO THAT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IF THIS WAS APPROVED, THIS IS GOING TO BE A 25 FOOT BUFFER, AND I FIND IF I WAS GOING TO, I WOULD REQUIRE THE FENCE TO BE PUT A BUFFER ON THE OUTSIDE. [01:05:05] THAT WOULD BE FOR ME. THAT WOULD BE YES, I WOULD, I WOULD WANT IT. I WOULD WANT THE FENCE MOVED IN. SO THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF THEM OF OF RVS COMING UP ON THE OUTSIDE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS, LIKE YOU SAID. RIGHT. SO SO BASICALLY ALL THESE WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN. SO IT APPEARS THAT WAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT. WAYNE, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT THE MEASURING TOOL ON THERE TO SHOW THE 25 FOOT FROM THE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE SET BACK? SO WITH RESPECT, THE. NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH THERE HAS AN OLD RICKETY PRIVACY FENCE. SO REALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE? IF WE DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE AND THEN A TUNNEL OF GRASS AND THEN ANOTHER FENCE. I DON'T KNOW ESTHETICALLY IF THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING LOOK BETTER. YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH IF WE HAVE TO DO THE FENCE, YOU KNOW, THE 25 FOOT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH LANDSCAPE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT IS, BY THE WAY, YOU GOT 25 FOOT IS A GIVEN. THAT'S. YEAH, THAT'S JUST AND THAT'S AND THAT'S FINE. BUT HE'S LIKE, IF WE DO THIS AND YOU CAN BRING THE FENCE IN THIS WAY AND THE LANDSCAPE ON THE OUTSIDE IS GOING TO BE BUTTED UP AGAINST A HALF FALLEN DOWN FENCE THE OTHER WAY. IT'S GOING TO BE THE OTHER DIRECTION FROM THAT. THERE YOU GO. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE THE GO UP A LITTLE BIT IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY IS WHERE THE NEW FENCE WOULD HAVE TO BE, AND THE OUTSIDE WOULD BE WOULD BE BUFFER. AM I CORRECT, AM I MY UNDERSTANDING. CRAIG, WILL IT BE THE 25FT WOULD BE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TREE LINE THERE, THE FENCE LINE IS THE PROPERTY LINE. IT'S AROUND THE SAME AREA. SO IN THAT SCENARIO IT WOULD ONLY GAIN. THIS AMOUNT HERE. CORRECT. I THINK THE WHOLE THING NEEDS TO SHIFT DOWN. THE PROPERTY LINE IS TOO FAR NORTH. IT'S NOT ACCURATE. THIS IS ACTUAL THE 75 LINE. SO I JUST WANT TO WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE. THOSE HAVE TO MOVE THOSE UNITS FARTHER AWAY FROM THE HOUSES TO MEET REQUIREMENTS. IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY. IS THAT RIGHT PROPERTY? YES. THAT WHOLE THING IS SHIFTED OFF. SO? SO THIS BLACK LINE SHOULD BE RIGHT HERE ON THE FENCE. THIS IS THE. ONE YOU WERE SHOWING US. SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR. AND WHAT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT THE NEIGHBORS NEED TO SEE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE VICINITY OF WHERE THE FENCE WOULD HAVE TO BE, WHERE THE IF WE REQUIRED THE BUFFER ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE FENCE. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF AND GIVE THEM THE EXTRA AREA. THEY APPEAR TO BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THOSE GOING ANYWHERE UNLESS YOU HAVE A TEN FOOT BUFFER, NO MATTER IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL. THOSE TREES WILL STAY NO MATTER WHAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD. I THINK THIS IS A I THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY COMPROMISE. I 25 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH LANDSCAPING AND A FENCE. I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE GETTING A BONUS YARD. DANIEL, I AGREE ALSO, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT. I WOULD NEVER CONSIDER ANY ADDITIONAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANY SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION. I THINK AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY'VE EXPRESSED THAT THAT'S THAT THAT'S WHAT THEIR DESIRES ARE. BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT IN MY MIND, THAT WOULD BE A FINAL FOR ME AS LONG AS I SIT HERE. SO. AND THAT'S THE SAME DISCUSSION I WOULD HAVE FOR MR. [01:10:06] DAVID IS I DON'T I DON'T AGREE TO MOVING ANY FURTHER NORTH. AND I'M, I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT TO THE BOARD THIS MORNING. IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE PROPERTY OWNER UP ON HIS OFFER TO GET RID OF THE OPENING OF THE GATE AND MAKE IT A SOLID. JUST I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND TRAFFIC DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE. HOWEVER, HAVING AN OPEN GATE DOES ALLOW MOVEMENT, AND I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE ANYWAY. SO IF THAT COULD BE REMOVED AND REPLACED, I THINK THAT DOES HELP. WE'VE SEEN ENCROACHMENTS INTO SOME NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DON'T APPEAR FROM ANYONE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO. TO BE A BAD NEIGHBOR, TO BE BAD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WERE A MAJOR RETAIL DEVELOPER. BACK UP NOISES, DUMPSTERS CRASHING. NONE OF THAT APPEARS TO BE THE CASE HERE. ALWAYS GOT TO BE MINDFUL THAT MANY OF THESE SEVERAL MR. DOZIER FOR YEARS THAT WE WE HAD THESE AND THESE ARE NEVER EASY WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOOD OR BAD OR AGAIN, THERE ARE GOOD COMMERCIAL AND BAD COMMERCIAL, AND THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE BAD. NOW, WE HAD SOME ISSUES. I THINK WE NEED TO CORRECT THOSE. THE PAYMENTS GOT TO GO. THE LANDSCAPING HAS GOT TO BE CREATED NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHETHER IT STAYS REGISTERED OR COMMERCIAL. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS FOR NOW. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN CHANGING RESIDENTIAL. COMMERCIAL UNDER THE CONDITIONS THAT THERE IS A FENCE THAT GOES UP, THERE IS A 25 FOOT OFF OF THAT PROPERTY LINE, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE LANDSCAPING, AND YOU REMOVING THE EXISTING FENCE TO MAKE IT SOLID. I BELIEVE. THE GATE. THE GATE RATHER. I SEE THE GATE NOW. DANIEL. DO YOU? I'M NOT SURE IF I'M OUT OF ORDER HERE, BUT ARE YOU REQUIRING THE FENCE TO BE ON THE INSIDE OF THE 20 FOOT? CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. 25 FOOT BUFFER FENCE ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUFFER. CORRECT. ANY ANY OF THE PAVEMENT THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WOULD SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND WAS THERE A CONDITION PLACED ON THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL? COULD THAT BE SOLID? SOLID? OKAY. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S CLEAR THIS AND MAKE SURE WE CALL IT COMPLETELY ON. THE MOTION IS A SOLID FENCE. ALONG MOUND AVENUE. 25 FOOT FENCE FROM THE BUFFER WITH THE LANDSCAPING ON THE INSIDE, THE 25 FOOT BUFFER AREA AND REMOVING THE GATE AND PUTTING A SOLID FENCE ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER OF PROPERTY. CORRECT. NO, 25FT INSIDE. FENCE IS ON THE INSIDE OF THE. CORRECT. FROM HERE, 25 FOOT. YES. OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THAT FENCE? LINE. A MINIMUM SIX FEET REQUIREMENT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT HAS A MOTION AND A SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER RAPHAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PIECE. YES, CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE ARE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 21 ON THE AGENDA. P D 2025 0141 LDR CHAPTER 25 TEXT AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST TO REVISE CHAPTER 25 OF THE BAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND THE TEXT. AMENDMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. STAFF IS PROPOSING TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE LDR THAT DISCUSSES THE FOLLOWING. IN TABLE 25.1. PROPOSES LANGUAGE TO REVISE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE BEACHES AREA SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE. THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH'S PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THEIR FRONT BEACH OVERLAY DISTRICT. [01:15:02] THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON THE CONDITION THAT THE GROSS FLOOR AREA BE PROPERLY DEFINED. LDR APPENDIX A DEFINES THE GROSS FLOOR AREA AS THE SUM OF THE GROSS HORIZONTAL AREAS OF SEVERAL FLOORS OF A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE FROM THE EXTERIOR FACE OF THE EXTERIOR EXTERIOR WALLS, OR FROM THE CENTER LINE OF A WALL SEPARATING TWO BUILDINGS, BUT EXCLUDING ANY SPACE WHERE THE FLOOR TO CEILING HEIGHT IS LESS THAN SIX FEET. STAFF HAS PROPOSED TO MODIFY THAT DEFINITION. TABLE 25 ONE TO EXCLUDE INTERIOR PARKING OR GARAGE AREAS. STAFF AGREES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDS THE BOARD CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. WE'VE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ISSUE. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? YES, SIR. JUST A FEW. SO THIS CAME UP JUST BECAUSE OF THE. WE WERE GETTING A FEW CALLS AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARKING FOR THESE LARGER HOMES, MAINLY THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CATERING TO THE TOURISTS. WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT SO THIS IS BASICALLY APPLYING PANAMA CITY BEACH. THEY DO THEIRS JUST IN THE FRONT BEACH OVERLAY DISTRICT. THEY DON'T DO IT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BEACH, BUT THIS WOULD. WE'RE ON THE ISLAND. THIS WOULD EQUATE TO. SO IF SOMEONE BUILDS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ONE AND A HALF SPACE PER THOUSAND, SOMEONE BUILDS A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOME. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE FOUR AND A HALF, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT FIVE PARKING SPACES. WE DON'T INCLUDE THE AREA WITHIN THE GARAGE SO THEY CAN STILL PARK THERE. SO IF THEY HAVE TWO IN THE GARAGE, TWO IN THE DRIVEWAY BEHIND IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK, CAN'T PARK IN THE SETBACK. CAN THEY COUNT THE YARD AS PARKING OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE A PAVED TYPE PARKING SPACE? PARKING SPACES FOR RESIDENTIAL USES? THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE PAVED, SO YOU COULD USE A GRASS AREA WITHIN YOUR YARD TO MEET YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT AS WELL. I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DEFEAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS PARKING TO TO DETER, YOU KNOW, THESE HOMES THAT ARE ADVERTISED, SLEEPING 24 PEOPLE AND ONLY PUTTING FOUR PARKING SPACES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THEM HAVE DONE FOR WHATEVER REASON. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. WELL, THE THE AREAS IN THE YARD WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE DRIVEWAY AREA. THE. DRIVEWAY AREA, AS WELL AS WOULD HAVE TO BE LARGE ENOUGH TO MEET THE DIMENSIONS REQUIRED FOR THAT PARKING SPACE. BASE. YOU HAVE A. FIVE LOT, TEN LOT SUBDIVISION. SAY FRONT BEACH ROAD. THEY HAVE COMMON AREA. CAN THE PARKING IN THE COMMON AREA COUNT TOWARDS THAT PARKING SATISFACTION? YES IT COULD. YEAH. HOW WE WOULD APPLY THAT. BECAUSE IF YOU PUT SAY FOR OVERFLOW SPACE YOU GOT TEN LOTS WHICH FOR GET THOSE PARKING SPACES. BUT I GUESS IF YOU PERMIT AS A WHOLE WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. OKAY. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS. ANY CONCERNS ABOUT IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY DON'T MEET THE PARKING CRITERIA? NO. THANK YOU. MULTIPLE MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT RENTAL PARKING ALL OVER THE RIGHT OF WAY IN OTHER PEOPLE'S YARDS ON TOP OF THEIR LANDSCAPING. ESCAPING. I THINK IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. AND. THAT'S A PROBLEM IN THE CORE AREAS OR THE TOURIST AREAS. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE RENTALS. MOST OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT. BUT A LOT OF TIMES, IF A FAMILY HAS A LOT OF KIDS THAT JUST TURNED 16, EVERYBODY'S GOT A CAR AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE STACKED AND PARKED ALL OVER THE YARD, AND THE MAMA'S JUST GAVE UP ON THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE SHE CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE. BUT PLAY TETRIS DEFINITELY IN THE RENTAL. AND YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT YOU REALLY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE EVERY RENTAL DOLLAR THEY CAN IN THE SHORT SEASON THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW. WELL, AS FAR AS I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S KIND OF THE RED BAR THEORY. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PARKING, BUT PEOPLE TEND TO COME. SO. RIGHT. AND THEY ALL WANT TO BRING THEIR CAR AND THEIR CARS HAVE NOW GOTTEN SO BIG THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY REQUIRE A SPACE AND HAVE TO PARK A TRUCK BECAUSE IT HAS YOU KNOW, MORE TIRES THAN A NORMAL TRUCK. SO IT'S, IT'S THAT'S DIRECTED AT US GUYS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE TRUCKS. I WASN'T GOING TO SAY HOW BIG OUR PARKING LOTS NEED TO GET JUST FOR THEM TO PARK, BUT I DO TO HAVE A LARGER TRUCK, SO. YEAH, THERE'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE, AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S EFFORT AND PLANNING BOARD'S EFFORTS TO TO GET IT HERE AND GET THIS IMPLEMENTED. YEAH, I AGREE, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS OF NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE PARKING IN THEIR CAN'T GET CAN'T GET ON THE ROADWAY, [01:20:05] NOT TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY SERVICES ISSUES WITH CARS BLOCKING THE ROADWAY. SO I THINK THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. THANK YOU. I MEAN, I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE OUT IN PANAMA CITY BEACH THAT HAVE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME COMPLAINT. YEAH, I WAKE UP AND THERE'S THREE CARS IN MY DRIVEWAY AND SOMEBODY'S PARKED ON MY SEPTIC TANK. YEP. AND SO I CAN'T GET OUT. YEAH. IT'S A BAD DAY. ALCOHOL WAS NOT INVOLVED. MAYBE A BONFIRE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WAYNE. ALL RIGHT. THIS BEING PART OF PUBLIC HEARING, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I BELIEVE WE BROUGHT THE WAYNE PORTER SHOW TO AN END TODAY. THANK YOU. IF I COULD GET A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFFLE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NOW, ON TO COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS IS STILL PART OF PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THIS IS REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 17 OF THE COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES. [County Attorney] GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS OUR REVIEW OF CHAPTER 17, WHICH IS THE CHAPTER THAT COVERS NUISANCES. IT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING EFFORT TO UPDATE OUR CODE. WE HAVE HAD SERIES OF ONE ON ONES TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. ONE IS THAT THIS THIS CHANGE WOULD TRY TO ADDRESS VACANT BUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE SECURED TO PREVENT UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS AND OTHER CRIMINAL AND OTHER PROBLEMS. THAT MIRRORS SOME LANGUAGE IN THE PANAMA CITY BEACH ORDINANCE. SECOND THIS ADDRESSES PARKING AREAS AND PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS IN COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS SO THAT IF THEY'RE PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS OR PARKING AREAS ARE NOT KEPT IN THE, A PROPER STATE OF REPAIR HAS HAVE HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. THEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THAT AND POTENTIALLY ABATE IT IF NECESSARY. WE WE'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WHERE YOU HAVE PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS LEADING ONTO COUNTY ROADS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, LARGE POTHOLES THAT HAVE CREATED SOME PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE. AND THIRD OF ALL THIS ADDRESSES SITUATIONS WHERE A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS THE SITE OF MULTIPLE SPECIFIED CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THIS GIVES US THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER ADOPT SOME VARIOUS THINGS TO ADDRESS THE ONGOING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, BE IT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING OR PRIVATE SECURITY OR PATROLS IN THE PARKING LOT. AGAIN, THAT IS MIRRORING SOME, SOME LANGUAGE THAT PANAMA CITY BEACH HAS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? THIS IS PUBLIC. SO IS ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. CAN I GET A CALL FROM THE BOARD? MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. NOW, WE ARE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE WHICH YOU THINK THE BAY COUNTY COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY OVER. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. NOTHING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT. NOTHING FROM STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER. COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NOTHING TODAY. [CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS] THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO COME OUT SEPTEMBER 23RD TO THE HIGH POINT LANDING BOAT RAMP FROM 530 TO 730. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEW ROUNDABOUT COMING IN TO TITUS ROAD. WE HAVE ENGINEERS ON HAND AND STAFF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE. SO IT'S A BIG DEAL AS OUR COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW. WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT FOR OUR PEOPLE, THAT WE REPRESENT. [01:25:04] SO WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE THERE. I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO BE AT THE BUDGET MEETING TONIGHT. 501. THAT'S HAPPENING THIS AFTERNOON. SO THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. JUST A FEW THINGS. SO TODAY IS NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY. SO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE WILL BE OFFERING VOTER REGISTRATION SERVICES AND REFRESHMENTS IN FRONT OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER LOCATED AT 840 WEST 11TH STREET, RIGHT WHERE WE ARE SITTING TODAY FROM 11 TO 2. SO YOU GOT ABOUT 35 MINUTES TO COME ON DOWN HERE. COME JOIN US. COME OUT. HELP CELEBRATE, GRAB A HOT DOG, REGISTER TO VOTE, OR UPDATE YOUR VOTER INFORMATION. BUDGET HEARING HAS BEEN MENTIONED. WE ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME AT 501. AS SOON AS THAT MEETING IS OVER, THERE'S MAJORITY OF US ARE GOING TO BE HEADING TO GAINESVILLE FOR THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES POLICY CONFERENCE. SO WE'LL BE THERE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AND SIT ON THE GULF CONSORTIUM BOARD. AND YOU HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER IN THE YEAR ABOUT GIVING UPDATES. I AM ALSO I SIT ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR THE GULF CONSORTIUM. WE HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY. GULF CONSORTIUM LOOKS GREAT. LOTS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE STILL ROLLING OUT FOR ALL THE COUNTIES THAT WERE AFFECTED FROM THE BP OIL SPILL. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES. I WANTED TO JUST SPEAK A MOMENT ABOUT TDC AND THEIR BUDGET AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND I HAD ASKED STAFF TO SCRUB THE BUDGET AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO PUT ASIDE AS MANY DOLLARS AS WE COULD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESILIENCY CENTER. AND THAT'S INDOOR. THE INDOOR EVENT CENTER, AS WELL AS FUNDING FOR LEVELS OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY LIFEGUARD PROGRAMS. ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON WHITTLING DOWN A LOT OF THINGS IN THE BUDGET THAT HAVE HELPED TO BE ABLE TO SET SET THIS MONEY ASIDE. THE RESULT OF THE TDC BEING ABLE TO SET ASIDE THE MONEY IS $4 MILLION FOR THE DEBT SERVICE, FOR THE COVERAGE OF THE BOND. WHEN WE GET READY TO START THE INDOOR CENTER, AND ALSO TO FUND THE COUNTY AND THE BEACH'S LIFEGUARD PROGRAM FOR APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION, WHICH IS HUGE, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS. AND WE HAVE A GREAT LEADER IN DAN ROWE AND HIS STAFF. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THEM. AND DAN'S ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO SEE AROUND THE CURVE AND BEING ABLE TO GUIDE US, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING AS SIGNIFICANT AS BOTH OF THESE THINGS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU BOTH FOR THOSE UPDATES. WITH THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD THAN MY COLLEGE TEAM CAME OUT UNSCATHED THIS WEEKEND. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH A GO DAWGS, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.