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[Parks Advisory Board Meeting on October 16, 2025.]

[00:00:11]

IDEA ABOUT. FOR THE OTHER TWO? YEAH. ABOUT WHAT WERE THE OTHER TWO? NO. NO IDEA. AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY CONFIRMED. USUALLY I LOOK AT JANIE AND JANIE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEIR THUMBS DOWN OR NOT. YEAH. SHE SAID, I'M NOT COMING TODAY. SHE'S FALL FEST. OKAY, LET ME CONFIRM THAT MY AGENDA IS STILL THE SAME. I BROUGHT. OKAY, SO WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING TO CYNTHIA IS THE PROJECT SHEET HAS CHANGED BECAUSE WE UPDATED EVERY MONDAY. I JUST DIDN'T UPDATE IT. OKAY, SO AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH DRASTICALLY. SO. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO GET STARTED? ARE WE.

YOU WANT TO CALL THE ROLL? ARE WE HAVE THUMBS UP IN THE BOOTH? WE'RE READY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE A ROLL CALL. SCOTT KLIMO HERE. WILLARD MOSELEY. CYNTHIA FULLER HERE, TRAVIS THOMPSON HERE. DANIEL DAVISON. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED WITH THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 17TH MEETING. EVERYBODY GOTTEN FAMILIAR WITH THOSE MINUTES, AND IF SO, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. OKAY. READY FOR PRESENTATIONS? TAKE IT AWAY, VINCE. SO, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? SO LET'S SEE HERE. CAN Y'ALL SEE THAT ON YOUR SCREENS? OKAY. YES. SO I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE SHOWED BEACH ACCESS, ONE THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. AND IT TURNED OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA. THE PARKING IS STILL FOR THAT. BEACH ACCESS AND BEACH ACCESS. TWO AND THREE ARE AT NEWBIES CURVE, SO PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE ROAD STILL TO GET TO IT. BUT IT'S IT'S BASICALLY WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE. NOW, BESIDES GOING OVER THAT STORMWATER GRATE RIGHT THERE. SO NOT ONLY IS IT ATTRACTIVE, BUT IT LOOKS BEEFY. IT IS. YEAH. THEY'RE BUILT REALLY WELL. I MEAN THESE ARE GOING TO THESE ARE GOING TO BE AROUND A LONG TIME NOW. SO. WE ORDERED WELL EVERY YEAR WE BUDGET FOR NEW BEACH FLAGPOLES. AND OUR TEAM GOES OUT AND ASSESSES WHICH ONES NEED TO BE REPLACED. AND WE CHOSE THE FOUR LOCATIONS THAT WERE OBVIOUSLY IN THE WORST SHAPE. AND THAT'S OUR TEAM OUT THERE REPLACING THESE BEACH WARNING FLAGS OUT. THERE WERE THESE TEN WERE THESE OUT THERE ON THE WEST END? I KNOW ONE WAS 78 AND 82 AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER TWO, AND ONE WAS OVER BY, I WANT TO SAY SIX AND THEN VENTURE OUT THE CONDO OUT THERE. YES. OKAY.

SO THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO GET DONE BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY NEED THOSE OUT THERE.

BAYOU GEORGE PLAYGROUND THAT GOT COMPLETED. I THINK THE LAST TIME WE SAW THAT WE WERE GETTING THAT STARTED, IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL. THAT COMMUNITY'S EXTREMELY HAPPY.

THE BASKETBALL COURT THERE AS WELL. IT'S COMPLETED. IT TURNED OUT IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL.

SO A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK OVER THERE. THIS IS THE RENDERINGS FOR THE NEW PLAYGROUND THAT'S GOING TO BE AT HIGH POINT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE STARTING SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER WITH THAT PLAYGROUND TEARING OUT THE OLD ONE AND PUTTING THAT IN THERE. THAT IS THE RESTROOM FACILITY. IS THAT IRA? THAT IS THE CURRENT LOOK OF IT RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE COMPLETION DATE IS STILL ON FOR THE 24TH, SO THAT'LL BE DONE. I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME STILL SOME PARKING AREAS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE DONE OUT THERE, BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE COMPLETED. THIS IS THE NEW PLAYGROUND FOR IRA HUTCHINSON THAT WILL BE IN THAT SAME LOCATION. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL BEEN OUT TO THESE LOCATIONS VERY MUCH, BUT OUR PLAYGROUNDS ARE REALLY, REALLY OLD AND OUTDATED, SO IT WAS ABOUT TIME TO GET THESE DONE AND THIS WAS THE PERFECT TIME WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OUT THERE. THIS IS FROM OUR CONCERTS IN THE PARK. THIS IS AT EISENBERG. THIS TURNED OUT REALLY WELL. WE HAD ABOUT 325 PEOPLE SHOW UP IN AND OUT. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD COME IN AND EAT, LISTEN, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON. IT'S A SMALLER LOCATION. IT WAS MORE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND BUT WE HAD A LOT MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP THAN WE THOUGHT. AND IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL. THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. YEAH, YEAH. SO

[00:05:02]

WE OPENED UP THAT THAT VACANT LOT THAT'S RIGHT THERE BY IT THAT WE OWN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANTING TREES AND STUFF ON. AND WE ALLOWED PARKING IN THERE FOR THE TIME BEING AND IT TURNED OUT GOOD. THIS IS ONE WE JUST DID LAST SATURDAY. THAT'S AT SIMMONS PARK. ABOUT 350 PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN AND OUT. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS A SUCCESS AS WELL. THIS IS THE SOUTHPORT COMPLEX I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL ON FOR FEBRUARY, MID-FEBRUARY, I THINK FOR COMPLETION. WITH THAT, OUR CREWS IN THE PROCESS OF ORDERING ARE GETTING PRICES. WHAT FOR TRASH CANS AND BLEACHERS AND THINGS THAT WEREN'T GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL STAY ON THAT TIME FRAME COMPLETION FOR FEBRUARY. BUT IT'S LOOKING GOOD.

THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY THAT'S IN THE BACK. NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WATER STANDING ON THOSE ROOFS. NO, NOT AT ALL. SO THIS WAS THE PIER THAT'S AT MCCALL EVERETT ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE THE DAM IS. IT WAS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. WE HAD THE TEAR OUT ABOUT 60 OR 70FT OF IT AND GET IT REBUILT, AND IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL. AND CITIZENS WERE HAPPY OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT PIER OUT THERE. WE JUST RECENTLY GOT ALL THESE TEE PADS DONE THAT WERE AT MAGETTE. THEY WERE OLD AND OUTDATED, AND A LOT OF THEM WERE JUST WOOD. SO THEY WERE STARTING TO DETERIORATE REALLY, REALLY BAD. AND WE CHOSE TO JUST GO WITH CONCRETE. AND YEAH, EVERYBODY'S LOVING THAT RIGHT THERE. THIS IS THE WALKOVER BRIDGE TO THE NEW PLAYGROUND THAT WE HAD DONE AT MAGETTE. THIS KIND OF GOES OVER A LITTLE STORMWATER THERE. SO IT WAS EASIER ACCESS. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS PUT IN AS WELL AFTER THIS IS DONE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT. AND THAT'S THAT'S STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A NICE LITTLE NICE LITTLE PATHWAY FOR THEM TO GET OUT THERE. I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE CHATTED WAS THE IT WAS JUST THE CONCRETE SLAB. AND NOW IT'S FINALLY INSTALLED. THAT'S DOING PRETTY WELL. I THINK WE'VE HAD A FEW LITTLE ISSUES WITH MAINTENANCE. WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH ITS CONNECTING CONNECTIVITY TO THE INTERNET.

OKAY. BUT THAT'S ON THEIR SIDE. A LOT OF REALLY GOOD COMMENTS. AND THEN LIKE IT'S BEING USED.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING ONE AT IRA HUTCHINSON AND ALL THAT. SOME OF THAT CONSTRUCTION DIES DOWN A LITTLE RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION. AND WE'LL BE VIEWING SOME OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL. AND THAT'S A VENDOR. IT IS. YEAH. WE'RE JUST PROVIDING SPACE TO. YES, SIR. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A 50% MATCH LIKE A SHARE REVENUE SHARE. THEY PROVIDE THEM THE MAINTENANCE ON IT AND THEN ANY ANY AFTER OUR LIKE PROBLEMS IT ALL GOES TO THEM. SO IT KIND OF RELIEVES OUR YOU KNOW OUR PEOPLE. SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD SO FAR NO COMPLAINTS. THIS IS FOR THIS UPCOMING SATURDAY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR FALL FESTIVAL.

WE HAVE THE CONCERT THERE AS WELL. FALL FESTIVAL STARTS AROUND 330. LOOKING TO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE. WE USUALLY DO ANYWAY. BUT I THINK WITH THE CONCERT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INFLUX OF EVEN MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE. SO THAT'S THE GREEN HEAD BAND THAT WILL BE SHOWING UP OUT THERE. WE'RE EXCITED. THEY'RE WORKING HARD ON IT. ALL THOSE PARKS PEOPLE ARE. ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THE PARTY'S GOING TO BE DOWNTOWN. IS THERE? I THOUGHT THAT TOO.

YEAH, I KNOW, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S JUST THEIR PICTURE. YEAH.

YES. YEAH, YEAH, BUT I GOT YOU. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THAT STUFF? YEAH, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT TO DO. THERE'S A LOT TO STILL DO SO BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. VERY GOOD. WE SEE WE PROVIDED Y'ALL WITH THE 25 THE PROGRESS SHEET. AND THEN WE ALSO WE HAVE THE 26 AS WELL WHICH WE HAVEN'T REALLY STARTED MUCH ON THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING INTO THE 26 AFTER THE FALL FESTIVAL. THESE THESE FESTIVALS ARE KIND OF TAKING A HANDS ON. SO OUR PROJECT GUY, HE'S OUT THERE WORKING RIGHT NOW DOING IT. SO ONCE THIS ENDS WE'RE GOING TO HIT THIS, YOU KNOW, HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THE REST OF THESE PROJECTS AND DESIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN 26. AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH ANY OF THESE, JUST SHOOT AWAY THERE. GIVE ME 26. I GOT A LOT OF THINGS ON THE 26. YES A LOT OF DESIGN IN THERE INSTEAD OF CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. SO.

THANK YOU. KNOW, A LOT OF THEM ARE EXCITING. JUST JUST LIKE WHAT YOU'VE JUST SHOWN US. YES.

[00:10:09]

IT'S GREAT. FROM OUR MEETING AT THE THE WORKSHOP MEETING THAT WE HAD OUT THERE AT MAJETTE HAD TWO GROUPS THAT REALLY DOMINATED THAT, THAT THOSE MEETINGS OUT THERE OR THAT MEETING OUT THERE, DISC GOLF AND MOUNTAIN BIKING. I THINK IT WAS MOUNTAIN BIKING. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO FIGURE OUT AT LEAST HOW TO KEEP THOSE GUYS, THE MOUNTAIN BIKING GUYS, ENGAGED.

YEAH. TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO SOME THINGS I WISH WE COULD COME UP WITH. SOME DESIGN MONEY FOR, LIKE A CONCEPT TRAIL. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW HOW IT CAN YOU WRITE THAT DOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T. WE HAD A CONCEPTUAL PLAN DONE FOR THE WHOLE PARK. YES. WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. SO I THINK THAT'S. AND. YEAH. CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? NO, I CAN HEAR YOU. I WAS JUST LETTING HIM KNOW THAT I HAD SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE.

OH. SO. WELL. GO AHEAD. SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION CONFERENCE IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA. AND THERE I TOUCHED BASE WITH A NUMBER OF PUMP TRACK DESIGN TEAMS, INCLUDING AMERICAN RAMP. AND THEY'RE VERY EAGER TO COME OUT AND START LOOKING AT OUR PROPERTY AND THEN COME UP WITH THEIR PROPOSALS FOR WHAT WE CAN DO. AND SPEAKING WITH JOURS RECENTLY, JASON JOURS, THE BMX STUFF, THE PUMP TRACK STUFF, THE BIKES AND AND THAT THE DISC GOLFERS WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THEIR BEGINNER STUFF WAS GOING TO BE SOME OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES MOVING INTO FY 27. OKAY, JUST BECAUSE WE CAN DEMONSTRATE A NEED BECAUSE OF EVERYBODY THAT SHOWED UP. YEAH, EXACTLY. THAT WOULD BE A VERY DOMINANT IF YOU FROM FROM FROM LISTENING TO THOSE GUYS AND UNDERSTANDING WHEN I SAY THOSE GUYS, I MEAN THOSE MOUNTAIN BIKE GUYS THAT WERE THERE WERE WOMEN THERE TOO. VERY PASSIONATE. DON'T CONFUSE THAT. BUT LISTENING TO THEM. DEVELOPING A CONCEPT PLAN HELPS THEM FIGURE OUT FROM A MATERIALS STANDPOINT, WHAT'S NEEDED AND WHAT CAN BE STOCKPILED. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY REUSE A LOT OF THINGS. IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, GET A BUNCH OF LOADED LOADS OF CLAY, IT'S CONCRETE PIPE THAT'S THAT'S BEEN USED SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT'S TELEPHONE POLES THAT ARE REPURPOSED FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT BECOME FEATURES ON A TRAIL. AND SO THE COMMENT THAT I'VE HEARD IS, HEY, IF YOU IF YOU, IF YOU START LATE ON A DESIGN AND AS SOON AS YOU FINISH THE DESIGN, YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE TO GO BUY ALL THOSE MATERIALS.

WHEREAS IF YOU GIVE PUBLIC WORKS, ROADS, BRIDGES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE KIND OF STOCKPILE SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT ORDINARILY BE WASTED OR THROWN AWAY. NO. THAT'S GREAT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT, IS IT? IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO MAYBE KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE CONCEPT PLAN SOONER THAN LATER. SO THAT A MATERIALS COULD MAYBE BE DETERMINED AND BEGIN TO BE STOPPED AND SAVE COST IN THE LONG RUN FOR SURE. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WE'VE BEEN REPLACING PURE PANELS. THOSE 500 POUND SLABS OF WOOD, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THOSE. WHAT KIND OF PANELS ARE THEY? THE THE WALKING PANELS ON THE PIER, THE PANELS THAT GO ON THE PIER. SO THEY COME UP IN ONE PANEL. SO WE REPLACE THOSE EVERY YEAR. SO THIS YEAR WE ORDERED LIKE 157 OF THEM. I THINK THEY'RE QUITE EXPENSIVE.

BUT YOU KNOW THE PIER NEEDS TO BE ROTATED OUT EVERY SO OFTEN. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT. AND WE WE THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY DON'T ROT. THEY DON'T GO ALL THE WAY. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ROTTEN, BUT THEY'RE IN BAD SHAPE TO WALK ON OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND PUT VEHICLE ON THERE. SO GOOD FOR RUBBER TIRES. MAYBE NOT FOR BARE FEET. YEAH. EXACTLY. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. INTERESTING OUT THERE ON THE TRAILS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING OUT THERE FOR THAT. SO. OKAY. WHEN IS THAT GRANT MEETING THAT DON HAD SENT THOSE, THOSE TWO DAYS. OH THAT WAS TWO DAYS AGO. DID YOU SIT IN ON THAT? THAT WAS THE WEBINAR I WAS IN ON. SOMETHING WE WERE LOOKING INTO IS OBVIOUSLY GRANTS WOULD HELP WITH THIS WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING. SO WE'RE HEAVILY GOING TO BE INTO THAT AND TRYING TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE AND THERE IS YOU. WE JUST GOT TO FIND IT. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THOSE GUYS IS THEY'RE NOT INCORPORATED AS A 500 13C. AND. SOME OF THEM DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST KIND OF THEY'RE A LITTLE PLAY GROUP AND AND YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW I MADE THE COMMENT WELL IT MAY ALWAYS BE JUST A PLAY GROUP WITH NO PLACE TO RIDE. IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T GET

[00:15:04]

A LITTLE MORE ACTIVE. YEAH. IN, IN SOME WAYS. AND SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A 503 C GROUP MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO SOME MONIES THAT THEY WOULDN'T ORDINARILY. YEAH. HAVE ACCESS TO. THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE DISC GOLFERS DID. AND THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING INTO THE FLORIDA COMMUNITIES TRUST OPEN SPACES GRANT, WHICH IS THE WEBINAR THAT I WAS IN ON WEDNESDAY, SOMETHING THAT IS AVAILABLE UP TO TO, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTS, BUT ALSO TO 501 THREES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I POINTED OUT TO THEM, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DISC GOLFERS SHOWED UP. THEY WERE ORGANIZED. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THEY WERE OVERLY DILIGENT, BUT THEY MADE THEIR CASE. AND IT WAS THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE ARGUING WITH THEM. IT WAS A GREAT CAUSE, A GREAT, IF NOTHING ELSE, TEMPORARY USE OF A CLOSED DOWN GOLF COURSE. YEAH. AND IT'S JUST KIND OF TURNED INTO, HEY, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD USE. SO THE FACT THAT THAT THEY DID THAT I THINK SHOWED SOME INITIATIVE. AND SO ANYWAY, I'VE KIND OF SAID THE SAME THING TO THE AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING TREES OUT THERE.

CORRECT. YEAH. THERE. SO THAT'S GOOD. THEY RAISED $500 AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER THOUSAND FROM SAINT JOE COMPANY TO INVEST IN OUR PROPERTY BY PLANTING NEW TREES. THIS WILL BE THE SECOND YEAR THEY'VE DONE THIS. OH, THEY SAID TWO YEARS AGO THEY PLANTED TREES AS WELL.

SO NOT THE BUFFER YOU'RE HOPING FOR, BUT IT'LL BE THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. BEST TIME TO PLANT A TREE WAS YESTERDAY. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY'RE IN THE WRONG SPOT, PLANT THEM. YEAH. YOU KNOW, PLANT THEM AND AND LET'S FACE IT, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S VERY FEW TREES ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE PALM TREES ARE ACTUALLY NOT TREES THERE. YEAH. SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE, THE I THINK WE HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT ON TREES OUT THERE, IT'S OKAY TO PUNCH A HOLE IN THE BAGGIE NOW. I GUESS THERE NEEDS TO BE LOTS OF THEM.

YEAH. NEEDS TO BE A A WOODED PARK. OVER TIME. SO OR IF IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ON THERE, HAVE YOU ALL EVER WENT TO DEEP SPRINGS PARK? DEEP. HE LIKES YOUNGSTOWN. WHAT IS IT? I SAID SO, SAID THE FAIR SKINNED GUY. OH, I NEED ALL THE TREES AND THE SHADE THAT I COULD GET.

THE DERMATOLOGIST SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD WEAR A HAT TO BED, THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR YOU. YEAH. DEEP SPRINGS, DEEP SPRINGS PARK. SO WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT'S JUST OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A IT WAS AN OLD BALLPARK AND THEN IT KIND OF JUST GOT DESTROYED. PEOPLE JUST DO WHAT THEY WANT TO OUT THERE. AND IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR PARK. I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT THAT WAY. SO YOU REALLY CAN'T BUILD MUCH OUT THERE. BUT IT IS A GREAT LOCATION TO DO MOUNTAIN BIKING BECAUSE IT DOES KIND OF GO DOWN IN A RAVINE. AND IT'S GOT GREAT WALKING TRAILS THROUGH THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL, IF Y'ALL EVER GET A CHANCE JUST TO DRIVE OUT THERE AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, I THOUGHT MAY COME UP IN YOUR HEAD THAT WE'RE NOT USED TO, YOU KNOW, OR THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT. SO IT'S A NICE PROPERTY OUT THERE. IT WAS LIKE 40 ACRES. IT IS QUITE THE HIKE DOWN TO THE THE SPRING, I SHOULD SAY. IT'S QUITE THE HIKING BACK UP. DOWN. YEAH. GOING DOWN IS MUCH EASIER THAN COMING BACK UP WHEN YOU'RE TIRED. SO. SO ANOTHER THING THAT HAS COME UP WITH THESE MOUNTAIN BIKING GUYS, THEY'VE TRIED TO ADD FEATURES OR WORK WITH FOLKS AT PINE LODGE AND CROOKED CREEK STATE FOREST. FOLKS AREN'T AS EXCITED ABOUT HAVING FEATURES THAT. BIKERS MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HURT ON. YEAH, BUT TO BE HONEST, IF THERE'S NOT A LITTLE BIT OF RISK, THEY DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH REWARD. YEAH. SO AT SOME POINT EVEN THE COUNTY'S KIND OF GOT A. GRAPPLE WITH THAT. ALTHOUGH I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT I'VE BEEN ON LOTS OF MONKEY BARS IN MY LIFETIME HERE IN BAY COUNTY, AND SOMETIMES THOSE CAN BE PRETTY DANGEROUS. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S ALL RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ON THE MONKEY BARS, YOU BETTER BE PREPARED TO TO. YES, YOU KNOW, BOUNCE OR WHATEVER WHEN YOU HIT THE GROUND. SO ANYWAY, ALL GOOD INFORMATION. GOOD. ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? NO, OH, GOOD. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. GOOD. TIM, YOU GOT ANYTHING? NOPE. GOOD. SO? SO JUST AS AS A POINT OF RECORD, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT. SCHEDULING OF BALLPARKS. WE HAVE TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT IN THE MINUTES OR WHATNOT. BUT I JUST I WANT TO

[00:20:03]

ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE AS PART OF A MEETING, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DIALOG WITH, YOU KNOW, YOUR OPPOSITE NUMBERS AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT RESULT IN A BETTER OUTCOME WITH REGARD TO USE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND I THINK YOU CANNOT JUST HAVE BALLPARKS, BUT PAVILIONS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE RANGE IS PRETTY WIDE. YEAH, WE CAN GO A LONG WAY WITH THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT VINCE DID WAS ALLOW US TO ALTER OUR FEES TO MAKE US MORE COMPETITIVE AND UTILIZING LETTING LED LIT BALL FIELDS NOT NO LONGER CHARGE FOR LIGHTS, BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T COST US WHAT A 400 WATT METAL HALIDE WOULD. YEAH, RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT. THAT DEFINITELY OPENS MORE DOORS. IT'S LESS OF A BARRIER TO TO GET FIELD RENTALS. AND IN TERMS OF COST THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT. AND WE DID A COMPARISON WITH ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A FAIR. YEAH.

IN IN THIS POST-HURRICANE AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS I GET IT. IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS, BUT WE'RE STILL RECOVERING FROM LOW. ABSOLUTELY. WELL AND I MEAN FROM A RECREATION STANDPOINT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL STRUGGLING, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR HOMES OR WHATEVER.

BUT FROM A RECREATION STANDPOINT, OUR NUMBERS ARE STILL LESS THAN THAN WHAT THEY WERE PRE-HURRICANE JUST SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES WEREN'T AVAILABLE. SO PEOPLE STOPPED PLAYING. MAYBE IF THEY DIDN'T PLAY, AS, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE YEAR OLDS, THEY JUST DECIDED, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY AS A TEN OR 11 OR 12 YEAR OLD OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO WE JUST WE I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO LEAD. AND WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN THE COUNTY. ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE MORE PARTICIPATION AND, AND TRY TO HAVE THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HOLD HANDS WITH US WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT. GREAT. OKAY. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. NOPE. NO OTHER NEW BUSINESS? NO. NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OF ANY KIND. GOOD JOB. THERE'S MY. THANK YOU. YES. WHAT'S THAT? I SAID I'M NOT HAVING ANY NEW KIDS. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE, DIDN'T IT? I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT. OKAY, WELL, THEN CAN I GET A MOTION? WE ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT.

SECOND. VERY GOOD. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A VOTE ON IT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.