Oct 21, 2025 Board of County Commissioners

[CALL TO ORDER]

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SCHEDULED MEETING FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST TO ORDER, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MORE. YES, MA'AM. NEXT, WE HAVE THE INVOCATION WITH MISTER ASHLEY STUCKEY, WITH THE COUNTY COLLABORATIVE SERVICES AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY JOHN DIEGANS WITH OUR VETERANS SERVICES. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT DAY HERE IN BAY COUNTY. I ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM, YOUR HAND UPON THE COMMISSIONERS AS THEY TALK ABOUT AND DELIBERATE THE BUSINESS FOR THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS HERE OF BAY COUNTY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PLACE, AND IT'S ALL IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, NEXT

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)]

I FAILED TO INCLUDE THE SHERIFF IN THE LOOP ON ON THE FINAL GROUP OF CHANGES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS AVAILABLE FOR TODAY TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. HE INDICATED THAT MAJOR BALDWIN IS AVAILABLE AND HE'S PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD. I'VE ALSO GOTTEN SOME REQUESTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ABOUT DOING ONE ON ONES TO GET MORE, SO I'M PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT I'M ALSO HAPPY TO TO DELAY THIS, TO GIVE EVERYBODY MORE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD THEN? WITH THAT, IF SOMEBODY ASKED FOR ONE ON ONE, AN ABILITY TO DIG INTO THIS MORE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH SHERIFF FORD A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND HE WAS GOOD WITH THIS. I ALSO GOT A TEXT FROM HIM, SAID HE WAS GOOD WITH IT, AND THAT BALDWIN WOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE ABOUT CONTINUING THIS OR PUSHING THIS OFF TO AN ADDITIONAL MEETING IS THIS ORDINANCE. AND IT'S BEEN WE'VE HAD IT FOR A WHILE. SO I WISH WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, MAYBE HAD GOTTEN THEM TO BRIAN BEFORE NOW, BUT SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE FOR THE CONDOMINIUMS. AND FOLKS THAT. ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW SOME OF THE RULES IN HERE. I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN THIS OR THAT. THIS IS THE, THE, THE WIN ALL, BUT. IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE. SOME OF THE THINGS IN HERE PEOPLE NEED PLAN TO PLAN RIGHT NOW. BUDGETS FOR ALL THE CONDOMINIUMS ARE GOING IN NOW, AND IF THEY DON'T ADD THESE ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADHERE TO, THEN IT MAY BE TOO LATE AND THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT RIGHT AFTER THEY DO THEIR BUDGET. IT'S JUST THE TIMING, I THINK. AND IF WE NEED TO GO OVER ALL OF IT OR PART OF IT, I THINK BRIAN IS CERTAINLY WELL VERSED IN WHAT WE'VE WRITTEN HERE. AND MAYBE HE COULD ANSWER ANYONE'S QUESTIONS. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IF WE JUST CHOOSE TO PUSH IT TO ANOTHER MEETING, THEN MAYBE IT'LL GIVE US THE CHANCE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT. AND IF WE ALL AGREE, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO VOTE ON IT.

NOW, WE COULD. AND IF NOT, WE COULD PUSH IT TO ANOTHER MEETING. BUT JUST TO PULL IT OFF THE AGENDA IS, I THINK, A LITTLE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START PREPARING TO FOLLOW ALL OF THESE RULES. AND SO I SUGGEST THAT WE AT LEAST HEAR IT OUT. BUT THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE AGREE WITH THAT? WE CAN MAKE AT THAT TIME? OKAY. I ALSO SPOKE WITH SHERIFF FORD YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID HE HAD THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE IN MAJOR BALDWIN BE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS THERE AND IS GOOD WITH IT, DOESN'T FEEL THAT HE HAS TO BE HERE. SO I'D SAY LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR IT. AND THEN BASED ON WHAT THAT HEARING IS AND WHERE IT IS, IF WE NEED TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE'LL DO THAT. OR IF WE CAN MAKE A VOTE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ANY OTHER ITEMS, BOB? ALL RIGHT. WELL, WITH THAT, CAN I GET APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? APPROVAL SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL

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[PRESENTATIONS]

TODD STARTED WORKING WITH BAY COUNTY ROADS AND BRIDGES DIVISION ON SEPTEMBER THE 12TH IN 2000. AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER. DUE TO HIS SKILLS AND STRONG WORK ETHIC, TODD WAS PROMOTED THROUGH VARIOUS POSITIONS AND CURRENTLY SERVES AS A CONSTRUCTION FOREMAN. IN THIS ROLE, HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE CONSTRUCTION CREW AND OPERATIONS, WITH A PRIMARY EMPHASIS ON MAINTAINING A SAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT. HE IS ALSO AN EXCELLENT MENTOR TO NEW EMPLOYEES, AND EARNS THE RESPECT OF HIS COLLEAGUES. OVER THE PAST 25 YEARS, TODD HAS PROVEN TO BE A VALUABLE ASSET TO ROAD AND BRIDGES DIVISION. WE APPRECIATE HIS DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE CITIZENS OF BAY COUNTY. TODD, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT IS THE EXACT SAME PLACE THAT I STARTED AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER SWEEPING FLOORS ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA, WHILE I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL. AND YOU HAVE CERTAINLY DONE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO IN IN ROADS AND BRIDGES TO MAKE US ALL PROUD OF YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT TALLAHASSEE MEMORIAL HEALTHCARE. PRESENTATION BY MR. ANDREW STAHL WITH TALLAHASSEE MEMORIAL HEALTHCARE. MR. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE PART WHERE THE PRESENTATION COMES ON. WE'RE GOING WITH A DRAMATIC EFFECT HERE. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM. THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. SO GOOD MORNING I'M ANDREW STARR I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE WESTERN MARKET FOR TALLAHASSEE MEMORIAL HEALTH CARE. I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO ALL OF YOU ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR HEALTH CARE CAMPUS. I'VE MET WITH MANY OF YOU PRIOR TO THIS AND MADE A PROMISE TO COME BACK TO THIS GROUP WITH UPDATES. SO THAT IS REALLY THE ESSENCE OF TODAY, AND I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE, AS EVERYONE'S AWARE OF WHERE OUR NEW CAMPUS IS LOCATED. IT'S LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF 79 AND GRIFFITHS PARKWAY, SO THAT'S A MILE OFF OF BACK BEACH ROAD. THE IMPETUS FOR THIS CAMPUS IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR BAY COUNTY. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN EXISTING FACILITIES AND BAY AND REALLY THE PANHANDLE, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DISTANCE WHERE WE'RE BUILDING AND WHERE YOUR INCUMBENT FACILITIES ARE. THE WESTERN PART OF BAY COUNTY, THERE'S A REAL CAVITY FOR HEALTH CARE OUT THERE, AND THIS CAMPUS WILL SERVE AS THAT THAT NEW DESTINATION FOR MANY OF THE CITIZENS THERE AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. OUR CAMPUS IS, AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS IS WHAT WE AFFECTIONATELY LIKE TO CALL PHASE ONE. WE PLANNED A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND A HOSPITAL. THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS 80,000FT■!S. OUR HOSPITAL, WHICH WILL BE PARALLEL WITH GRIFFITH PARKWAY, IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU SOME IMAGES OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. THIS IS THE LONG TERM VISION FOR THE MEDICAL CAMPUS.

AGAIN, 87 ACRES OF CAMPUS, ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF IT IS WORKABLE. PHASE ONE WAS AGAIN THAT MLB THAT'S ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SCREEN AND THE HOSPITAL. WE'RE REALLY PREPARING THE CAMPUS FOR WHAT COULD BE A 600 BED FACILITY AND ALSO ROOM FOR THREE OTHER MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN BAY COUNTY, WALTON COUNTY AND SURROUNDING AREAS, AND THE NEED FOR HEALTH CARE AND THE GROWTH IN POPULATION, THIS IS NOT AN UNREALISTIC GOAL WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS. REALLY VALUABLE POINT I WANT TO MAKE TO EVERYBODY. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, WELL OVER FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE INITIALLY PLANNED FOR 100 BED FACILITY, WHICH REALLY 30 BEDS LIVE. ON DAY ONE. WE IMMEDIATELY GOT GOT RECENT DATA ON THAT, RAN ANOTHER STUDY, AND WE FIGURED OUT WE NEEDED A MUCH BIGGER FACILITY, A FACILITY THAT WOULD HAVE AS MANY AS 80 BEDS ALIVE ON DAY ONE AND 180 BED SHELL. AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS AREA THAT ALL OF YOU ARE FULLY AWARE OF. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF WHAT THE HOSPITAL WILL LOOK LIKE. IT WILL BE CALLED FSU HEALTH. IT WILL NOT BE CALLED TALLAHASSEE MEMORIAL HEALTH CARE. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY, PARTICULARLY THE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE. WE'RE EXCITED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR TEACHING DESTINATION AND RESEARCH DESTINATION FOR THEM, ALONG WITH A NEW HOSPITAL TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS COUNTY AND SURROUNDING. THIS IS THE FUTURE. IF I DON'T SHOW THIS, OUR ARCHITECTS GET VERY OFFENDED. BUT LIKE THIS IS THE

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THIS IS OUR HOSPITAL SITE. AS YOU CAN TELL, WE BROKE GROUND ON THE HOSPITAL SITE IN NOVEMBER OF 2024. IN LESS THAN A YEAR, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT IN WHAT IS NOW OCTOBER 2025.

WE HAVE COMPLETELY LEVELED THE LAND, RISEN THE LAND, PUT UP TILT WALL CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR INFRASTRUCTURES AS WE SPEAK, SO THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG AT A VERY BRISK PACE IN LESS THAN A YEAR. RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY CLEARED SOME KEY PERMITS WITH THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH.

WE'VE PUT IN A NEW VASCULAR CLINIC, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL PART OF THE PORTFOLIO OF OFFERINGS WE HAVE IN OUR MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. OUR SECOND PART OF OUR TILT PANEL HAS BEEN ERECTED, COMPLETED NECESSARY WORK WITH AHCA, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CD PRICING. SO THINGS HAVE BEEN MOVING ALONG AGAIN AT A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE CLIP. WHEN WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE NEXT 60 TO 90 DAYS, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL CLINICS THAT WILL BE OPENING EMERALD COAST. OBGYN WILL BE OPENING UP THEIR EXPANSION CLINIC IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WE SPEAK. TALLAHASSEE ORTHOPEDIC CLINIC AND DERMATOLOGY SPECIALISTS ARE WORKING ON THEIR CLINICS, AND THEIR OPENINGS WILL BE IN THE EARLY PART OF CALENDAR YEAR 2026. WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR PRIMARY CARE PRACTICE. WE'VE ACTUALLY ADDED TWO NEW PHYSICIANS. WE'LL BE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PHYSICIAN THIS SPRING. THAT'S BASED ON OUR GROWTH AND OUR COMMITMENT TO HAVING REAL TIME ACCESS TO YOU, OUR CONSUMERS, AND WORKING ON SOME EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PULMONARY PRACTICE AND SOME OTHER PRACTICES WHICH ARE NOT ONLY GROWING AT A RAPID PACE, BUT ALMOST TO THE POINT OF GROWING OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN PHYSICAL SPACE, WHICH IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE PART WHERE I IMPROVISE. ALL RIGHT. WHY NOT? WE'LL GO WITH IT. OKAY. WELL, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I JUST. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD EVERYBODY UP.

LET ME TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT OUR PLANS ARE AND THE TYPE OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD.

I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT OUR CLINICS HAVE GROWN IN THE LAST YEAR. OUR PRIMARY CARE CLINIC HAS GROWN EVEN EVEN LOSING SOME DAYS DUE TO WEATHER AND SOME OTHER THINGS. OUR PRIMARY CARE CLINIC HAS GROWN BY ALMOST 20%. AND I SAID, WE'VE ADDED TWO NEW PHYSICIANS. OUR CARDIOLOGY AND PULMONOLOGY CLINICS HAVE GROWN BY ALMOST 500%, INCLUDING OUR URGENT CARE. AT 500%. WE STILL HAVE REAL TIME ACCESS FOR OUR PATIENTS. BUT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU WE HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT AT RECRUITING ADDITIONAL NEW PHYSICIANS TO THE AREA. AND THE KEY THING THERE IS ADDITIONAL NET NEW TO THE AREA. NOT ROBBING PETER TO PAY, PAUL NOT TAKING FROM ONE ORGANIZATION AND BRINGING INTO THE OTHER. THIS IS NEW NET PHYSICIANS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU, OUR CONSUMERS, SO THAT YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES AND YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND THE CONSTITUENTS HERE CAN GET REAL TIME ACCESS. WHEN WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE NEXT YEAR, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU OUR PRIORITIES REMAIN THE SAME MAINTAINING OUR COMMITMENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE OF THE HOSPITAL, WHICH CONTINUES TO MOVE ALONG AT A VERY AGGRESSIVE CLIP. YOU WILL SEE A LOT MORE ACTIVITY ON THE SITE AS WE ROUND OUT THE THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH FLOORS OF THAT

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I WILL TELL YOU AT THAT TIME, I EXPECT, BARRING A REAL SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REPORT OUT GOOD NEWS, GROWTH AND EXPANSION AS WE CONTINUE TO REMAIN COMMITTED TO THIS COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO YOU ALL. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ISSUES THERE, BUT ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, JUST A COMMENT. JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM. IT'S WE KNOW, AN INCREDIBLE INVESTMENT THAT YOU'RE MAKING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HEALTH CARE IS IS VITAL TO ALL OF US. AND WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL THAT YOU GUYS CHOSE TO TO PUT THE CAMPUS HERE AND GO NOLES. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. BUT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE HUMBLED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND I WILL SHARE WITH YOU AS THE EXECUTIVE, I TAKE CONSUMER RATINGS VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS. I WILL TELL YOU, WE USE A COMPANY CALLED QUALTRICS, AND I WILL TELL YOU OUR CLINICS ARE BEING BENCHMARKED BY 10 TO 30%. AND THAT'S NOT JUST BAY COUNTY THAT'S REALLY NATIONALLY. SO OUR OUR CLINICS ARE REPORTING SOME OF THE HIGHEST SCORES IN THE COUNTRY. AND THAT'S PRETTY GREAT FOR A STARTUP. BUT WE'RE ALL ACUTELY AWARE WE'RE AS GOOD AS WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY. AND THE THEME SONG ON OUR CAMPUS IS GET OFF TO A GOOD START. SO WE NEED TO KEEP DOING THAT. WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND SUPPORT OF ALL OF YOU AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, FRANKLY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

IT TOOK A LONG TIME COMING, BUT YOU PUT FINANCIAL SUPPORT BEHIND THIS PROGRAM. WITH THE PAST FOUR YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE AN ADDITIONAL $8 MILLION FOR OUR AREA TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS AND WHY WE'RE INTERESTED IN THIS NATIONAL DESIGNATION IS THAT WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO DO WHAT A GRANT FUNDS US TO DO, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. NATIONAL DESIGNATION, IF SUPPORTED BY THIS BOARD AND ACTUALLY SECURED IN CONGRESS, WOULD GIVE US A PIPELINE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU ALL AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY FIND IMPORTANT, RATHER THAN WHAT A GRANTOR FINDS IMPORTANT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR VISION, AND ALSO YOUR DEDICATION TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS DESIGNATION CAN DO, BOTH PROS AND CONS. WE'VE HAD INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS, AND I REALLY RESPECT HOW MUCH CARE AND EFFORT THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO UNDERSTANDING BOTH SIDES OF WHAT THIS COULD MEAN. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION DOES NOT GIVE US REGULATORY AUTHORITY. IT DOESN'T GIVE ADDITIONAL REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO ANY EXISTING REGULATION OR REGULATORY AGENCY. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CHARACTERIZE IT AS A FEDERALIZATION, BUT RATHER IT'S A DESIGNATION TO SHOW THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR AREA TO THE ENTIRE NATION. AND WE ALREADY KNOW THIS. THE SCIENCE ALREADY SUPPORTS THIS. WE HAVE THE MOST SPECIES OF ANIMALS AND PLANTS IN OUR ESTUARY COMPARED TO ANY OTHER IN THE NATION. WE JUST NEED THE DESIGNATION TO SHOW THAT WE'RE IMPORTANT AND WE DESERVE THEM. FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE KNOW IS IMPORTANT. AGAIN, THANK YOU.

DESPITE THE OUTCOME OF YOUR DISCUSSION TODAY, I CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU INTO THE FUTURE. THANKS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE GO

[CONSENT AGENDA]

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BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF THE REPORTS UNDER THE BUDGET OFFICE. ITEM TWO 2025 FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE AMENDMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE FY 25 FEES AND FINES SCHEDULE REGARDING UTILITIES. ITEM THREE FY 25 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD ADOPT RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET ITEM FOR FY 26 BUDGET AMENDMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD ADOPT RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 BUDGET UNDER COUNTY ATTORNEY. ITEM FIVE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PANAMA CITY BEACH CARES PROGRAM. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PANAMA CITY BEACH CARES PROGRAM. ITEM SIX SALE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY 2297. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD APPROVED THE SALE OF A 75 ACRE SURPLUS PROPERTY LOCATED ON HIGHWAY 2297 FOR $225,000, AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY OR CONVENIENT TO COMPLETE THE TRANSACTION UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM SEVEN MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL BOARD APPOINTMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD REVIEW THE LETTER SUBMITTED FROM THE MEXICO BEACH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT AS REQUESTED UNDER EMERGENCY SERVICES ITEM EIGHT UNIFORM ITEMS PIGGYBACK AGREEMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BOARD AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PIGGYBACK ON THE CITY OF LAKELAND. CONTRACT WITH BLUE LINE INNOVATIONS, LLC, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND ANY REQUIRED CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UNDER THE PURCHASING OFFICE. ITEM NINE 2547 PROFESSIONAL CIVIL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BOARD AWARD AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN CONTRACTS WITH THE QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS FOR CONTRACT. 2547 PROFESSIONAL CIVIL ENGINEERING SERVICES.

ITEM 1020 550 PROFESSIONAL UTILITY ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACTS, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, BOARD AWARD AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE CONTRACTS WITH THE QUALIFIED CONSULTANT CONSULTANTS FOR CONTRACT 20 550 PROFESSIONAL UTILITY ENGINEERING SERVICES UNDER THE TDC. ITEM 11 TDC PUBLIC SAFETY FUND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY BEACH THROUGH THE DISBURSEMENT OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX FUNDS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENDITURES PRESENTED RELATING TO INCREASED TOURISM ON PANAMA CITY BEACH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. GET A MOTION. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION AND MULTIPLE SECONDS. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. COMMISSIONER. RAFFLE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. YES, MA'AM.

[County Manager’s Office]

THAT WOULD ONE ESTABLISH THIS AS A NATIONAL ESTUARY AND THEN TWO THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE? FREE UP THE FUNDS THAT WERE REFERENCED EARLIER. SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS OPEN FOR DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. ALL RIGHT. WHAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE? WELL, GIVEN THAT THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL REGULATION, IT'S ONLY GOOD THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR FOR IT. AND. OKAY, TURN THAT I HAVE IS WE TELL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THEY WE GIVE THEM POSSESSION OF OUR WATERS AND WE TAKE THEIR MONEY. ARE WE ARE WE UPHOLDING TO WHAT THEY TELL US TO DO WITH OUR WATERS AND OUR INLETS, AS FAR AS DO WE LOSE CONTROL OF THAT? DO WE IF WE IF WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE KING, DON'T WE OBEY TO THE KING'S RULES AND THAT KIND OF HOW THAT WORKS? AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. YES, MA'AM.

I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON IF WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT AND THEY COME IN AND TELL US WE CAN'T PUT A 25 HORSEPOWER ENGINE IN OUR BAYS, AND THAT'S KIND OF A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, I UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S NOT WHAT THE DESIGNATION IS FOR. SO WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS OUR LIMITATION IS THAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY ON PROJECTS THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND SAY, WE CAN'T HAVE MOTORS IN OUR BAY, IT WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DESIGNATION. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING DEP OR FWC OR SOMEONE ELSE SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHICH THEY CAN DO NOW IF THEY WANTED TO. LUCKILY, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE REALLY NOT GIVING THEM CONTROL OVER OUR BAY. WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE

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THAT'S CORRECT. AND PENSACOLA IS THE NEAREST ONE THAT'S GONE THROUGH THIS. YES. THEY JUST WENT ABOUT PENSACOLA AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT'S BEEN. YES. THEY WERE IN EXISTENCE FOR A LITTLE LONGER THAN US. I SPEAK WITH THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON ALMOST ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

AND SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPROPRIATED FUNDING YET, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED NATIONAL. SO THEY'RE THE THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM BILL IS UP FOR REAUTHORIZATION IN 2026. SO THAT'S THE FIRST STEP OF US GETTING INTO THAT. PENSACOLA IS ALREADY IN THERE.

AND THEY NAMED MISSISSIPPI SOUND. AND THEY'RE ON THE HOUSE SIDE ALREADY, WHICH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE AFTER WE WERE. AND YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS THAT HAVE ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM IT? NO ONE THAT'S ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM IT. BUT WE HAVE I THINK IT'S FIVE IN FLORIDA, WHICH I LOOK TO BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SAME STATE LAWS AND ALL OF THAT. SO INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, TAMPA BAY, SARASOTA BAY, AND THEN CHARLOTTE HARBOR AND PENSACOLA. THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, MISS BEACH, FIRST I JUST WANT TO THANK JESSICA GRAHAM AND HER ENTIRE STAFF FOR THE THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT I GOT A CALL FROM OR A TEXT FROM TOM PUTNAM THIS MORNING WITH HALF HITCH TACKLE THAT IS IN FAVOR OF THIS. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY OTHER ANY OTHER CALLS OR ANYTHING ON IT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET MONEY BESIDES JUST THE GRANTS THAT MAYBE WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT, BUT FROM. BAY COUNTY'S WATERWAYS ARE CRITICAL TO TOURISM, COMMERCE, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY. FEDERALIZING THESE WATERS WOULD TRANSFER KEY DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY TO FEDERAL AGENTS SUCH AS THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. IF ANYBODY HAS EVER TRIED TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW THAT IT TAKES YEARS TO GET THAT DONE. AND I THINK THAT MOVING ON TO A BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND LETTING THE STATE AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LOSE CONTROL OF THIS SITUATION IS NOT SOMETHING I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO. LOCAL AND STATE MANAGEMENT ALLOWS FOR RAPID RESPONSE FOR STORM DAMAGE AND SEDIMENT BUILDUP AND NAVIGABLE HAZARDS. SO AFTER A HURRICANE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BOATS THAT WERE LEFT LAYING OUT IN THE BAY AND IN THE WATERWAYS, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET THIS STUFF REMOVED IF WE WERE FEDERAL. AND WHEN WE HAVE TO GO DREDGE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PART WHICH WE'RE GETTING READY TO I THINK YOU'VE GOT A DREDGING PERMIT ON ONE OF YOUR PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK THAT IS GOING TO. SLOW DOWN. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS GOVERNMENT GOING SLOWER THAN IT DOES NOW, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO PUT IT IN REVERSE. WHILE FEDERALIZATION MAY INITIALLY APPEAR TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT, IT TYPICALLY REQUIRES MAYBE A LOCAL SHARE AND SOME LONG TERM COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT AND REPORTING. SO I DON'T WANT TO ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS TO UP HERE TODAY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE PAPERWORK THAT'S GOING TO GO ALONG WITH WITH MAKING THIS ALL FEDERAL DREDGING PERMITS. AND LET'S JUST SAY THAT WE HAD A.

NATIONAL BUDGET PRIORITY IN SOME OTHER AREA. I'M CERTAIN THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THAT MONEY, THAT FEDERAL MONEY, AND PUSH IT TOWARD A SMALLER PROJECT, A MORE SUBSTANTIAL NATIONAL PROJECT. THERE. I COULD GO ON AND ON WITH THIS. IN CONCLUSION, THE IMPORTANCE I UNDERSTAND, AND I DO I DO KNOW THAT YOU NEED THE MONEY. I HAVE HELPED YOU WITH THE BUDGET, AND I KNOW THAT YOU NEED ADDITIONAL MONEY. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE LOCAL AND STATE FOLKS STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND GIVE YOU THE MONEY BEFORE WE JUST GIVE OURSELVES OVER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I GUESS REALLY THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY MORE ABOUT, I JUST DISAGREE WITH THIS, AND

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AND I ENCOURAGE YOU, PLEASE DON'T. DON'T GIVE US MORE BIG GOVERNMENT. SORRY, JESSICA, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. AND I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT. AND I KNOW YOU ALREADY KNEW IT, BUT I JUST CAN'T CHANGE MY THINKING ON THAT. BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN OPINION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER? I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF RESPONSE TO THAT. WE'VE ALL HAD ONE ON ONES. WE'VE ALL MET WITH YOU AND STAFF AND HAD OUR OWN SET OF QUESTIONS. YOU HAD OTHER POINTS FOR US, YOU KNOW, GOING TO ELECTRIC MOTORS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO, TO ABSOLUTELY ALL THE USERS. I WAS ASSURED DURING ALL THOSE MEETINGS THAT THIS WOULD NOT ADD MORE REGULATORY PERMITTING, BUT HOW DO WE HAVE A GUARANTEE THAT THAT'S THE CASE? HISTORY OF OTHER ESTUARY PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN CASES IN OTHER ESTUARY PROGRAMS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN. THE DESIGNATION HAS BEEN USED TO PUT MORE LIMITATIONS ON THINGS. THAT'S GENERALLY A LOCAL OR A STATE THING THAT COMES INTO PLAY. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OF COURSE, CAN ALWAYS TRUMPET, BUT GENERALLY YOU HAVE LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS HAVE MUCH GREATER AND LOUDER DECISION MAKING WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO THE DESIGNATION DOESN'T GIVE THEM MORE ABILITY TO DO THAT. THEY CAN DO THAT. NOW.

ARMY CORPS CAN REJECT A PERMIT NOW. THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION DOESN'T GIVE THEM WELL, YOU'RE DESIGNATED NATIONALLY SO YOU CAN'T DO IT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. THE ESTUARY PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO PUT THE POWER IN THE LOCALS RATHER THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMING DOWN. IF WE CONTINUE THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING AS AN AS A COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE HIGHER RESTRICTIONS BEING PUT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT JUST TO SURVIVE. WE ALREADY HAVE WATER QUALITY ISSUES. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. WE HAVEN'T YET HAD THE STATE COME IN AND PUT THOSE REGULATIONS ON US, BUT WE SEE THOSE DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE THEY'VE TURNED THE TABLE AND THE TIPPING POINT HAS SURPASSED. WE'RE NOT THERE YET, AND WE'RE TRYING TO STOP US FROM GETTING THERE. SO THE DESIGNATION DOESN'T PROVIDE THEM A HAND TO COME DOWN AND GRAB THE POLICY BOARD. MAKEUP STAYS THE SAME. YOU'RE NOT GIVING VOTING RIGHTS TO THE FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENT. IT STAYS THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, AND YOU GUYS ARE ELECTED BY THE LOCAL CITIZENS. SO THOSE DECISIONS ON WHERE THAT MONEY GOES IS FROM Y'ALL, FROM THE POLICY BOARD MEMBERS. SO IT DOESN'T IT JUST DOESN'T DO THAT. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THE BACK AND FORTH, BUT THERE'S THE HISTORY OF TAMPA BAY, INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, SARASOTA. NONE OF THOSE HAVE HAD THEIR DESIGNATION USED AGAINST THEM FOR MORE REGULATION. HAVE THEY HAD MORE REGULATION? OF COURSE, BUT NOT BECAUSE OF THE DESIGNATION. YEAH. AND THEN ONE LAST EXCUSE ME, ONE LAST THING.

SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR OPENING EAST BAY.

YES. THAT HAS BEEN A HUGE PROCESS. LONG, LONG COMING. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR BOARD STANDS BEHIND AND AND SUPPORTS? THE OPENING OF EAST BAY. WE DID PROVIDE THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT. THE BOARD DID SUPPORT A LETTER, AND IT'S BEEN DELIVERED TO KEITH BRYANT FOR THE SUPPORT OF BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR CAMP. AND SO A HYDROLOGIC RECONNECTIONS ESTABLISHING ANY HISTORICAL RECONNECTIONS ARE OUTLINED IN OUR CAMP. YOU ARE IN SUPPORT.

IT'S BEEN WRITTEN AND SIGNED. SO THAT'S A YES. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET.

SORRY. THE HEAD NOD WILL NOT COME UP IN THE MEETING MINUTES. SO. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HOW CAN WE WHERE ARE THE ASSURANCES THAT WE DON'T? BECAUSE I'M NOT

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SO WE WOULD INSTEAD OF ASKING TO BE NATIONAL, WE WOULD ASK TO BE REMOVED FROM IT. WOULD THAT ALSO TAKE AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO GIVE US THAT? I THINK FOR MY PERSPECTIVE, AND BECAUSE NO ONE'S DONE THIS, I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON THAT IS, AS SOON AS WE STOP SPENDING THEIR MONEY, THEY STOP HAVING CONTROL. RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT AS YOU SPEND THE MONEY. SO AS LONG AS WE STOP SPENDING THE MONEY, THEN IT'S NO LONGER US BEING CONSIDERED AN ESTUARY PROGRAM FOR THEM. THEY'LL REALLOCATE THE FUNDING TO OTHERS. WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE NO ONE'S DONE IT. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT DOESN'T TAKE AN ACT OF CONGRESS LITERALLY TO GET US BACK OUT OF IT. A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THERE FOR US TO JUST YOU GOT THE LETTER OF SUPPORT THIS MORNING. HAVE WE GOTTEN OTHER LETTERS OF PEOPLE AGAINST THIS? HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY WE GOT A LETTER AGAINST FOR THE. TRYING TO THINK OF THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION. BOB, YOU MIGHT CAN HELP ME. THE BIRDS, PIPING PLOVER, CHOCTAWHATCHEE BEACH MOUSE, THE SAME FOLKS THAT HAVE HELPED STOP US FROM GETTING THE OLD PASS OPENED FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW? BUT, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE LETTER OF OBJECTION THAT WAS SENT TO THE REGULATORY AGENCIES REGARDING THE EAST PASS. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE THE AUDUBON, MAYBE THE AUDUBON SOCIETY. I DON'T RECALL THE NAME RIGHT OFF. I'D HATE TO NAME AN AGENCY THAT WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE IS AN AGENCY THAT, IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE PASS, HAS RESPONDED TO.

I THINK IT'S AGAIN, COMMISSIONER, I'D HATE TO I'D HATE TO SAY SOMEBODY'S NAME WOULD BE INCORRECT. SO THERE HAS BEEN A LETTER OF OBJECTION FILED WITH THE REGULATORY AGENCY REGARDING THE EAST PASS PROJECT. YES, SIR. BUT FOR THIS, THOUGH, IS WHAT I'M ASKING. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LETTERS OF OBJECTION TO. NO, I HAVE NOT. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN PERSONALLY. NO, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY. HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY LETTERS OF OBJECTION? NO, SIR. I'M JUST ASKING. SO. SURE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. LET ME LET ME ASK BRIAN A QUESTION REAL QUICK BECAUSE I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOU DID READ THROUGH THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM. CAN CAN YOU SPEAK TO CLAIRE'S QUESTION AS TO ABOUT THE UNWIND? DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE IN THE LAWS THAT SPOKE TO THAT? THE I DON'T BELIEVE THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM HAS A PROVISION THAT THAT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO NON DESIGNATION. AND IT IT MAY VERY WELL REQUIRE A ACT OF CONGRESS.

I AGREE WITH DOCTOR GRAHAM THAT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE THE THE THE THE THE STRING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ON US IS, IS THE, THE THE CASH THAT IT CHOOSES TO PROVIDE. SO IF WE ARE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEING INVOLVED IN THE ESTUARY, JUST STOP TAKING THEIR MONEY, OKAY? GRAHAM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC THE MONEY, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU RECEIVE NOW VERSUS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU COULD POTENTIALLY RECEIVE AND WHAT YOU'RE USING THAT MONEY TO DO? WHAT WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR WORK IS IN THE COMMUNITY, THE DATA THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING AND KIND OF WHERE IT'S GOING AND AND HOW THAT WORKS. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS, THAT ARE IN THIS AUDIENCE. OKAY. SO THE CURRENT MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE ARE FROM COMPETITIVELY SECURED GRANTS, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO WRITE PROPOSALS, SUBMIT THEM TO AN RFP THAT'S BEEN RELEASED AND GET SELECTED, AND THEN WAIT FOR THE MONEY TO GET TO US. THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE CMP AS A PRIORITY AND WHAT MATCHES THE RFP. SO I CAN'T JUST WRITE WHATEVER PROJECT I WANT. IT HAS TO MATCH WHAT THEY WANT TO FUND. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS SOME WATER QUALITY MONITORING THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED BY THE EPA THAT WILL SUPPORT BAYWATCH TO CONTINUE THEIR WATER QUALITY MONITORING IN SAINT ANDREW BAY. IT WILL SUPPORT US TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL WATER QUALITY MONITORING TO ENSURE THE STATIONS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACES, TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE BAY AND START IN SAINT JOE BAY. A CITIZEN

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THE UPPER TRIBUTARIES OF SPRINGFIELD DRAIN INTO LAKE MARTIN. SO VDI WAS CONTRACTED TO DO THAT DESIGN. SO NOW THEY'RE SITTING ON 60% DESIGNS TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME RESTORATION WORK. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT COULD GO ON. I THINK WE HAVE 14 DIFFERENT GRANTS GOING RIGHT NOW, BUT ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMIT FOR ARE WHAT WAS PRIORITIZED AND IDENTIFIED IN THE CMP AND TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THOSE. AND IN THIS WORK, IS THERE A POTENTIAL HICCUP THAT IF WE DO TAKE THIS MONEY AND IN THE FUTURE, WE PUSH FORWARD TO OPENING EAST PASS, THAT THIS NATIONAL DESIGNATION CAN COME BACK AND HINDER US OR STOP US? BECAUSE I CAN GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER HOLDING UP A PROJECT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEEN WAITING ON A PERMIT SINCE AUGUST, AND IT HAS BEEN UNBELIEVABLY HARD TO GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING. WHEN I TELL YOU IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE 100% THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN IS OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS SPEED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT? AND I CAN TELL YOU, I'M NOT FOR SLOWER GOVERNMENT AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT ANY PART OF IT. SO THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I, THAT I TRULY HAVE IS THAT WE GET HANDCUFFED, WE GET TIED DOWN OBLIGATED BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN THIS GOLDEN COOKIE, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAD THAT I SHARED WITH CLAIRE. SURE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. THE DESIGNATION ISN'T GOING TO EXPEDITE OR SLOW ARMY CORPS AND DEP'S PROCESS. THAT PROCESS EXISTS AS IT IS. WE'RE NOT AN EXTRA BOX THAT'S ON THE PERMIT THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, OUTSTANDING FLORIDA WATERS IS HAS REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO IT. THAT'S A DESIGNATION WHERE YOU DO HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO CHECK. IT'S NOT THE SAME FOR THE DESIGNATION FOR NATIONAL DESIGNATION, THE PASS OR THE INTENTION OF THE PASS IS IN THE CMP. SO SOME OF THAT FUNDING THAT'S COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CMP THAT CMP IS OUR BOOK OF ACTIONS. THANK YOU DONNA. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHERS? I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HIS HARD WORK. I MEAN, I, I TRULY DO, EVEN THOUGH WE DISAGREE ON THIS, ON THIS PARTICULAR THING SHE HAS SHE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. SHE'S WORKED VERY HARD. AND HER ENTIRE GROUP BACK THERE. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. I JUST.

I JUST THINK THIS IS I THINK THIS IS THE I THINK THIS IS THE WRONG MOVE. IT'S THE EASY MOVE.

IT IS THE IT IS THE WAY TO GET THE MONEY AND KEEP THE MONEY COMING. AND I KNOW THEN MAYBE WON'T. YOU CAN SPEND MORE TIME DOING THINGS THAT YOU KNOW ARE IMPORTANT, THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS ESTUARY PROGRAM. IF YOU HAD THAT FLOOD OF MONEY, I REALIZE THAT 100%, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH YOUR NUMBERS, AND SO I KNOW YOU NEED THEM, BUT I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO NOT TAKE THAT EASY MONEY. THE EASY MONEY IS I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK IT'S EASY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DESPITE WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE, IF YOU DID APPROVE IT, IT STILL HAS TO GET APPROVED BY CONGRESS. SO IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE FOR US TO EVEN APPROVE IT WHEN WE FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. AND I'M NOT REAL PLEASED WITH THEM RIGHT NOW. IT'S OUR TROOPS ARE NOT GETTING PAID. SO WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A LIFELINE, BUT TAMPA, I MEAN, THAT WAS A HUGE INFLUX FOR THEM, WAS IT NOT? IT WAS HUGE. THEY ALSO, THROUGH THE ESTUARY PROGRAM, ESTABLISHED A NUTRIENT CONSORTIUM. AND SO THEY KEPT THE STATE FROM COMING IN AND PUTTING REGULATIONS ON THEM FOR REDUCING THEIR NUTRIENT INPUT BY DOING IT VOLUNTARILY AND AS THEY COULD.

AND SO THAT'S HOW THEY SAW THEIR SEAGRASS COME BACK. BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO UPDATE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND DO OTHER THINGS WITH THE FUNDING AND THE FUNDING. YOU KNOW, YES, IT'S AN INFLUX OF FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO WORK TO PROVIDE MATCH FOR IT. SO I STILL HAVE TO GET GRANTS. WE STILL HAVE TO FIND THE OTHER WAYS OF GETTING THE FUNDING IN AND BEING CREATIVE. AND SO THOSE ARE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS. IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE THING. IF WE GET IT AND WE STOP WORKING ON IT AND THERE'S STILL THERE'S SO MUCH NEED OUT THERE THAT $800,000 REALLY IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD GET A COUPLE DROPS EVERY

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I THINK ALL OF US HAVE DEALT WITH THE ARMY CORPS IN SOME SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION AND KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE, AS WELL AS DEP AND OTHER ITEMS. JUST OTHER OTHER NOTES. YOU KNOW, I I'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT ONE TO THE LEFT AND ONE TO THE RIGHT OF ME, WHOSE FAMILIES MADE LIVINGS ON THE WATER AND DEALT WITH THE GOVERNMENT CHANGING THINGS RAPIDLY ON THEM AND AFFECTING THEM. AND I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A CONCERN BOTH WAYS. I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN DO THIS WITHOUT US VOTING. BUT IF WE DO JOIN THIS, IS THERE A WAY TO DO JUST A LINE ITEM CHANGE IN THAT BILL THAT WOULD UNRING THAT? I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN THAT SITS UP HERE IS WHAT IS THAT UNKNOWN AND WHAT IS THE BEST THING TO DO. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE THERE IS NO I DON'T THINK FOR ANY OF US, THERE IS A REAL CLEAR CUT ANSWER AS TO WHAT THAT PATH IS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO A LOT OF THE HESITANCY UP HERE IS A CONCERN FROM OUR STANDPOINT OF WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY IF WE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS. BUT WHAT WHAT IS THE EFFECT TEN, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OF THIS VOTE? AND WHAT WOULD IT DO TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT? YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER TURNED 14 YESTERDAY.

THAT PUT HER AT 34. WHAT WHAT WOULD HER WORLD BE LIKE WITH WHAT THE GOVERNMENT MAY DO HERE? AND OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IS ONE THAT DOES NOT LIKE A LOT OF A LOT OF GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT.

THEY THEY YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY MUCH AN INDEPENDENT MINDED GROUP AROUND HERE. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS I WILL, LIKE CLAIRE SAID, KUDOS TO YOU. I, YOU KNOW, WAS INVOLVED WITH YOU IN THE STAND UP OF THIS, GOING THROUGH THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS. YOU'VE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF PATIENCE. YOU'VE MET WITH US A LOT OF TIMES, ANSWERED OUR QUESTIONS CONTINUOUSLY. AND FOR THAT I APPRECIATE YOU. AND AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UNLESS THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE A CALL SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHICH WAY THIS IS GOING TO GO AND WHAT WE WILL DO AS A COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU. JESSICA. TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION. AND THEN ON THE MOTION, DEPENDING UPON WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THE 2ND MAY BE OR MODIFICATION OR WHAT IT MAY BE, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD. PASS IT THROUGH. I JUST I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH ABOUT AT THIS POINT TO HANDLE ANYTHING OVER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THAT CAPACITY. I'M A NO. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE DESIGNATION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER RAPHAEL. NO, MA'AM. YES. OH, YES. YES, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. YES, YES, THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE REQUEST. YES. IS A NO. YES IS A NO, COMMISSIONER PERSIS? YES, COMMISSIONER CROSBY, GIVEN THE AMBIGUITIES, I'M GOING TO SAY YES, COMMISSIONER CARROLL. NO. CHAIRMAN MOORE. NO. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THE MOTION PASSES.

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HE'S BEEN WITH BAY COUNTY GOING ON A YEAR. HE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB SERVING US AS THE ASSISTANT UTILITY DIRECTOR. HE'S CURRENTLY ACTING AS THE INTERIM UTILITY DIRECTOR. HE'S HERE THIS MORNING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS APPROVED. PROMOTION OF MIKE ALLEN FROM INTERIM UTILITY DIRECTOR TO PERMANENT UTILITY DIRECTOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK APOLOGIES, MIKE. I LEARNED THIS MOVE FROM THE GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT, AND I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO BRING YOU FORWARD UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA AND JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. YOU'VE DONE GREAT WORK. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND WORKING WITH YOU, AND JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHO WAS STEPPING IN AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. SO APOLOGIES AND KUDOS ON YOU FOR NOT WEARING A TIE AND BREAKING WITH BOBBY'S TRADITION. I WAS

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I JUST HAVE MY NORMAL. IF WE COULD GET THE VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS UP EARLY AND OFTEN AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED AND WORK WITH THE NEWS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN THE RACE IS GOING TO BE AND KIND OF THE TIME FRAMES AND ALL THOSE AREAS. I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. DEFINITELY. WELL ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COULD I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. THANK. GOT A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER BARFIELD. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES,

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THE THE LANGUAGE IN CHAPTER 34, WHICH COVERS RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES IN THE BEACHES AREA SPECIAL TREATMENT ZONE. IF YOU WERE TO PLACE A MANUFACTURED HOME WITHIN THIS OVERLAY, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AS FAR AS THE ESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. SO THOSE STANDARDS ARE STILL IN PLACE. SO IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN A MOBILE HOME, MODULAR HOME, MANUFACTURED HOME, ALL OF THOSE UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA OR A MANUFACTURED HOME IS ONE THAT IS, THAT IS INSPECTED AND APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR MANUFACTURED HOME CONSTRUCTION.

MOST OFTEN WHEN PEOPLE REFER TO A MOBILE HOME, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT BY DEFINITION OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING MOBILE HOMES, MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT MEET THE HUD CONSTRUCTION, FEDERAL GUIDELINES STANDARDS. SO IT CAN'T HAVE ACTUAL CAN'T HAVE A TONGUE WHEELS THAT. CORRECT? NO. EXCEPT ON PERMANENT FOUNDATION.

SO WHAT WE HEAR IS A TRAILER. YOU EVEN IF WE CHANGE THIS, YOU STILL CAN'T HAVE A TRAILER.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT'S BUILT IN A FACTORY, BASICALLY THAT WHEN IT'S SET UP, IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE BRICK HOME NEXT DOOR TO IT. CORRECT? YOU BROUGHT UP MODULAR HOMES. MODULAR HOMES ARE ALSO MANUFACTURED HOMES, ESSENTIALLY, BUT THEY MEET A DIFFERENT STANDARD. THEY'RE BUILT TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE STANDARD, AND YOU HAVE VARYING DEGREES OF MODULAR HOMES, SOME THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, SOME THAT ARE LESS EXPENSIVE, THE ONES ON THE MORE ECONOMIC END OF THE SPECTRUM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM, THEY LOOK LIKE A MANUFACTURED HOME. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY'RE BUILT TO FLORIDA BUILDING CODE STANDARDS. YEAH, I THINK I THINK THE CONCERN THAT I'VE RECEIVED IS MAINLY THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A TRAILER TRAILER. CORRECT. THAT'S THE BIGGEST TRAILERS ANY, ANY, ANY STRUCTURE THAT'S THAT THAT DOES NOT MEET THOSE FEDERAL HUD CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. BUT AS A TRAILER MEET, THAT, DOES A TRAILER MEET THAT. NO. OKAY. NO.

YOU SAID PERMANENT FOUNDATION CONCRETE PULL AXLES OFF, NO TONGUE ON THE FRONT. AND DOES IT HAVE TO BE A NEW MOBILE HOME REPLACING THE THE OLD ONE? IT CAN'T BRING IN A 1987 AND PUT IT ON A CONCRETE SLAB AND ROLL THE WHEELS OFF OF IT AND CUT THE TONGUE OFF AND IT MEETS THE STANDARD. JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY, CLARIFY RATHER WELL. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE SAME STANDARD OF ANY OTHER MANUFACTURED HOME SET UP IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE COUNTY THAT PERMITS IT. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR TO INSPECT THOSE OLDER MANUFACTURED HOMES TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA, SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THAT THAT CRITERIA AS WELL. WAYNE, I'D ASK YOU DURING MY ONE ON ONE WITH YOU ABOUT THE FACT OF ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND IN THIS AREA, COULD IT BE SOMETHING WHERE AS OPPOSED TO LIKE IN THE OTHER AREA, IT'S I THINK IT WAS 15 YEARS, BUT ON THIS ONE, COULD IT BE WITHIN FIVE YEARS IF IT WAS COMING IN AND IT WASN'T A BRAND NEW THAT IT COULD ONLY BE WITHIN LIKE FROM SINCE IT'S 2025, SAY 2020 OR NEWER? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD ALSO HAPPEN AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, IF THAT'S IF THEY WANTED TO REVISE, IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND REVISE THAT LANGUAGE TO TO MAKE THAT DECLARATION THAT THE HOME CAN ONLY BE WITHIN A CERTAIN AGE, TIME, AGE OR TIME FRAME, CERTAINLY A PLEASURE BOARD TO DO THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? I HAD A FEW THINGS. YES, MA'AM. FIRST, THIS IS 200 AND SOME ODD PAGES OF CHANGES, SO I THINK IT

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I MEAN, ARE WE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME AND GET A VARIANCE? THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WITHOUT SEPTIC SEWER AT THEIR HOME UNTIL THEY GET A VARIANCE TO GET? NO, NO, ANY, ANY EXISTING SEPTIC SYSTEM CAN BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED. SO THOSE ARE GRANDFATHERED. YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. NO PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE. AND I'M SURE THAT THAT'D BE THROUGH DEP. RIGHT. THAT WOULD EVEN COME TO US, WOULD IT? CORRECT. DEP WOULD ULTIMATELY BE THE ONE WHO, WHO, WHO, WHO REVIEWS THAT AND APPROVES THOSE PERMITS. CORRECT. BUT WE WOULD NOT THE COUNTY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY. WE WOULDN'T STAND IN THE WAY OF THAT REPLACEMENT. THAT'S GREAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY SEPTIC TANK GET AS FAR AWAY FROM WATER BODIES AS POSSIBLE. BUT CHAPTER 11, SECTION 1106, CAN YOU JUST RUN THROUGH THE TIMELINE ON THE PUD EXPECTATION DATE THAT THAT WHOLE WHEN THE DOUGH IS GOOD? I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DOUGH IS IS NOT GOOD FOREVER, THAT IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR TWO YEARS IF THEY HADN'T STARTED THE PROJECT. BUT I JUST WANT IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT I HAD SOME PHONE CALLS ABOUT THAT AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO JUST WHOEVER'S LISTENING, MAYBE THEY COULD GET A CORRECT ANSWER. YES, MA'AM. WHEN A PUD IS APPROVED, IT'S IT'S ONLY IT'S VALID FOR SIX MONTHS. IF NO DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. NO DEVELOPMENT. IF IF A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THEN THE PUD WOULD EXPIRE. IF WE HAVE A DO A DO APPLICATION THAT'S SUBMITTED, THE PUD REMAINS ACTIVE AND VALID. IF WE APPROVE THAT DEVELOPMENT ORDER, A DEVELOPMENT ORDER APPLICATION IS VALID FOR ONE YEAR. IF THAT IS OF NO ACTIVITY, NO DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY TAKES PLACE. IT WILL EXPIRE IN ONE YEAR UNLESS THE APPLICANT ASKS FOR AN EXTENSION AND THE LDR ALLOWS ESSENTIALLY TWO YEARS WORTH OF EXTENSIONS. THERE'S ALSO WHEN WE HAVE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER DISASTER DECLARED DISASTER BY THE STATE.

THERE'S ALSO LANGUAGE THAT ALWAYS PROLONGS DEVELOPMENT THERE AS WELL. SO. THE PUD STAYS ACTIVE AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER IS ACTIVE. CHAPTER 22 RV PARKS FROM LOCAL ROADS. SO I GET PHONE CALLS ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT NOT NECESSARILY RVS DRIVING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT MULTIPLE GARBAGE COMPANIES. YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUST GET ONE GARBAGE TRUCK GOING UP AND DOWN THE ROADS, DESTROYING THE RESIDENTIAL ROADS, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN'T GET TOGETHER ON THAT. BUT DELIVERY TRUCKS, LARGE 18 WHEELERS AND THAT KIND OF THING THAT ARE GOING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND I GET THOSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF YOU GET THEM, BUT I GET THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THIS GOING TO ALLOW RV PARKS TO GO IN EVERY LITTLE AREA THAT THEY COULD POP IN? AND IF SO, ARE WE ARE WE CONCERNED AT ALL ABOUT THE TRAFFIC GOING INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? RV PARKS ARE, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE ACRES MINIMUM FOR AN RV PARK, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING DESIGNATION. WHAT THIS DOES IS WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT DESTINATION, RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS THAT ARE LOCATED

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AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR CAMPGROUND, RV PARK CLOSE TO THOSE NATURAL RESOURCES. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THIS LANGUAGE IN CHAPTER 22 THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT ACCESS AN RV PARK FROM A LOCAL STREET, IT HAS TO BE ACCESSED BY A COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL DESIGNATED ROAD ONLY, SO THIS WOULD ALLOW SOME EXCEPTION TO THAT BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ONLY, WHICH MEANS IT HAS TO GO BEFORE PUBLIC HEARING AND BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THAT WHERE YOU HAVE PERHAPS A NATURAL RESOURCE, SOMEONE WANTS TO LOCATE AN RV PARK OR CAMPGROUND IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE LIKE TO CAMP. WHY WAS IT PUT IN THERE TO BEGIN WITH THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. BUNCH OF RVS. AND I KNOW I'VE GOT A BIG ONE, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE GOING DOWN. SO WE'VE LOCAL ROADS WITH IT ALL THE TIME, SO IT JUST DOESN'T. SO STAFF HAS BEEN ADVISING THOSE FOLKS WHO MAKE THAT REQUEST THAT THEY, THEY COULD SUBMIT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THAT. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY APPLICATIONS YET. THIS WOULD JUST BE CODIFYING IT. LANDFILLS. AND AND REALLY WHEN WE SAY THERE WERE A LOT OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, THERE WERE A LOT OF THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE MAKING MAJOR MOVES, IN MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE FEELS THAT WAY, BUT THE NEED TO REQUIRE TO OPERATE MULTIPLE LANDFILLS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 20 SECTION 2307 ARE WE GOING TO GET IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE LANDFILLS? I MEAN, SO THERE'S THERE'S NO PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT CHANGES ANY REGULATIONS FOR LANDFILLS. IT GETS RID OF THE NEED TO REQUIRE ON AND OPERATE MULTIPLE. SO YOU'RE SAYING SO 2307 AND I COULD FIND IT IN HERE. WOULD IT WOULD TAKE ME A MINUTE. MAYBE YOU COULD JUST YOU PROBABLY CAN PULL IT UP FASTER THAN I AND JUST REASSURE US THAT THERE'S, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SMALL LANDFILLS POPPING UP ANYWHERE THAT THEY COULD BE. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE LANDFILL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT. SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LANGUAGE AT ALL. WE'RE REARRANGING THE ORDER OF THOSE ITEMS TO WHERE IT MAKES MORE SENSE. SO NO, NO, MA'AM, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT'S NOT CHANGING ANY REGULATIONS THAT HAS TO DO WITH LANDFILLS. THERE'S NO NEW PROPOSED LANGUAGE IN SECTION 2307. YOU HAVE ITEMS. YOU HAVE THE SUBITEMS. WHICH ARE ONE THROUGH FOUR. I BELIEVE WE'RE JUST REARRANGING THE THE NUMBER. NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO NEW LANGUAGE BEING PROPOSED. SO WHAT WAS FIVE IS NOW ONE, YOU'RE SAYING CORRECT.

WHAT USED TO BE NUMBER FIVE IS NOW NUMBER ONE. I HAVE ONE MORE. IT IS AN EASY ONE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN RUNNING THE GENERATOR AND THE DIESEL POWERED BYPASS PUMPS? WHAT? WHAT IS WHAT FOR? CHAPTER 27 UTILITIES. YEAH. CAN I GET MR. ALLEN TO HELP ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I DON'T MEAN TO STALL THE MEETING, BUT IT WAS A IT WAS JUST AN ORDER. WHICH WHICH WHICH SECTION WAS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YEAH. HANG ON ONE SECOND. IT WAS CHAPTER 27 UNDER UTILITIES GENERATOR DIFFERENCE IN DIESEL POWERED BY BYPASS PUMPS. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WHAT THE CHANGE IS IN. AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE GENERATORS IN SOME AREAS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUMP OUT AND BE CHANGING ALL OF THAT, ARE WE? IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER LATER. IT'S REALLY NOT NOT A GAME CHANGER. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IT. WHICH WHICH SECTION IS IT? SECTION 2709 111 REVISES LANGUAGE FOR BACKUP POWER SOURCES FOR LIFT STATIONS. WE'RE JUST CHANGING FROM GENERATORS GOING TO BYPASS PUMPS, MAKING BYPASS PUMPS REQUIRED AT LIFT STATIONS RATHER THAN GENERATORS. SO WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND CHANGE ALL OF OUR GENERATORS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE DOING IT AS WE GO ALONG A LITTLE, A LITTLE AS WE GO ALONG.

OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE THERE WASN'T A BIG EXPENSE COMING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN OUR BUDGET. ANY NEW LIFT STATIONS REQUIRE BACKUP PUMP RATHER THAN GENERATOR. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THAT'S JUST FOR PUBLIC ONES, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. YEP. CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUESTION? THE PLANNING BOARD, WHEN THEY MET, DID THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL ABOUT ANY OF THIS? AND DO YOU REMEMBER IF THEY HAD THERE WAS ONLY ONE COMMENT FROM ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT WAS A REFERENCE TO. THE CURRENT BUILDING CODE THAT WAS

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THERE MAY THERE MAY BE SOME THAT HAVE WERE SET UP WITHOUT PERMITS OR SOME THAT WERE GRANDFATHERED IN. BUT THERE IS CURRENTLY WE HAVE TRAILER CELL LOTS THAT AND ZONINGS THAT ALLOW MANUFACTURED HOMES. THEY HAVE TO BE SET UP ON A BLOCK FOUNDATION TIED DOWN, AND THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO BE HUD APPROVED MANUFACTURED HOMES. SO FROM THAT, WAYNE, YOU'RE SAYING WHEN THEY'RE PUT ON BLOCKS JUST SO WE CAN TRY AND CLARIFY THIS, THEY THEY'RE SOLD AT A LOT.

THEY'RE DRIVEN OUT TO WHERE THEY ARE. THE AXLES AND EVERYTHING ARE TAKEN OFF.

THEY'RE LOCKED UP. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THERE'S NO PLACE HERE THAT IT GETS THERE BY THE WHEELS, BUT THEN THE AXLES HAVE TO BE REMOVED. WELL, THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF MANUFACTURED HOME. BUT THEN THERE'S MODULARS, WHICH ARE BUILT IN A FACTORY, TRANSPORTED, PUT ON A SLAB PERMANENT FOUNDATION WHICH FIT IN WITH THE STANDARD NEIGHBORHOOD AND MODULARS BUILT TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD. IS IT NOT MODULAR? BUILT TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE STANDARDS, BUT THEY COULD ALSO BE SET UP ON BLOCK PADS. BUT WHAT WE WE ALL THINK AS TRAILERS, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEY COULD COME ANYWHERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE R-2 DESIGNATION OR HIGHER CAN COME SET THAT UP. MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT ARE APPROVED BY HUD, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SET UP ON BLOCKS AND TIED DOWN. THEY CANNOT BE SET UP ON WHEELS.

HAS IT EVER? THAT'S ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY THAT ALLOWS MANUFACTURED HOMES? ANOTHER QUESTION A MOBILE HOME. IS ANYTHING BUILT BEFORE 1976 CORRECT? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITION. IT'S IT'S A HOME THAT'S THAT DOESN'T MEET HUD STANDARDS. WOULD BE A MOBILE HOME. AND THERE'S THERE IS NOWHERE CURRENTLY IN BAY COUNTY YOU CAN SET UP A MANUFACTURED HOME THAT DOES NOT MEET HUD STANDARDS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU WAYNE. WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I TRULY WISH WE HAD A SPLIT THIS UP SOME PUBLIC HEARING AND SO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ALL AGREE WITH AND MAYBE SOME OF THEM THAT WE WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT, LIKE, LIKE THE TRAILERS, MODULAR HOMES, MOBILE HOMES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, JUST SEEMS LIKE WE COULD. WE SHOULD HAVE MAYBE HAD SOME OF THE SPLIT UP. I KNOW WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH BRIAN ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF SCRIBNER'S THERE, SOME OF IT IS OR MAJOR CHANGES IN, I THINK THOSE MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT OUT SEPARATELY SO THAT WE COULD VOTE ON THOSE INDIVIDUALLY. I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT WHAT WE DO. THERE ARE THINGS IN HERE THAT YOU CAN SAY, OH. YEAH, WE COULD MAYBE MAKE A MOTION TO. WELL, THERE'S ONE THING PRESSING BECAUSE I MADE AN ERROR AND I FORGOT TO OPEN THIS FLOOR TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY ONE CHAPTER OR ANY ONE SECTION, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE THE CHAPTERS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH, THAT WE CAN APPROVE THOSE AND THEN BRING THOSE CHAPTERS THAT THERE'S YOU WANT TO DISCUSS BACK. WE CAN DO THAT AT A LATER

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UNDERSTOOD. LET'S LET'S GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PART AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL DO SOME MORE HOUSEKEEPING TO THAT END. AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES TO Y'ALL. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. TO THE HOUSEKEEPING ARE THERE? I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO DO TO WHAT YOUR REQUEST WAS. WAYNE IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HOLD BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS. LET THE FIVE OF US TALK WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER ABOUT, AND THEN MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT SECTIONS AREN'T AN ISSUE. WE CAN GET THOSE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TIME WE CAN VOTE. WE CAN MOVE THOSE ON VERY EASILY. BUT I MEAN, AS MUCH AS LIKE SHE SAID, THERE ARE 216 PAGES. THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT SOMEBODY MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, BUT THEY WERE GOING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT AND MOVE ON TO VOTE. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY, LET US DO THAT. WE'LL GET THAT TOGETHER. THE ITEMS THAT ARE KOSHER. I THINK BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, EACH OF US AS COMMISSIONER, WE I'VE GOT AGENDA REVIEW WITH BOB ON THURSDAY. IF Y'ALL CAN LET US KNOW BY THEN, WE'LL GET THOSE THAT ARE NOT AT QUESTION ON THE NEXT AGENDA. GET THAT DONE AND THE ONES THAT ARE, THEN WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE SEPARATELY. IT MIGHT NOT BE HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT, BUT I, I'M I'M NERVOUS ABOUT SOMETHING SLIPPING AS WELL WITH US KIND OF MAKING THE SAUSAGE RIGHT NOW IN THIS WAY.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD TO ME. YEAH I THINK I THINK IT'S FINE. WE COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD. THE QUESTION FOR MR. LEEBRICK WITH THAT PROCESS BE TO CONTINUE THIS OR AGAIN, I'M JUST THINKING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF RE ADVERTISING A PUBLIC HEARING OR JUST LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT IF IT'S TABLED TO A FUTURE SPECIFIC MEETING, IT WON'T HAVE TO BE RE-ADVERTISED IF YOU IF YOU ARE JUST CONTINUING IT TO A CERTAIN POINT, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RE-ADVERTISED. MY THOUGHT FROM THAT STANDPOINT WOULD BE WE TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING. AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE THE ONES THAT WILL SPECIFICALLY GO, AND THEN WE WILL TABLE WHATEVER OTHER ONES MIGHT NOT BE ADDRESSED WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME TO THE FOLLOWING MEETING AFTER THAT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING DONE HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS IS JUST A SUGGESTION, AND IT MAY COMPLICATE THINGS MORE, BUT TO ALLOW HIM TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE SCRIVENER'S ERRORS AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES SO THAT IT SHRINKS THIS DOCUMENT DOWN TO A SIZE WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING OVER THE MAJOR, MAJOR ITEM CHANGES, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE MORE COMPLICATED? AGAIN, I THINK THROUGH CONVERSATION OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS, THE CHAIRMAN SUGGESTED IF THERE ARE WHOLE SECTIONS THAT ARE ON THIS AGENDA THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, THAT WE WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO, AND WE'LL JUST PULL THOSE OUT, PUT THEM UNDER, YOU KNOW, A SEPARATE VOTE AT THE NEXT MEETING. ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE REMAINING, WE CAN EITHER GET THOSE ITEMS ADDRESSED BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING WITH YOU OR TO THE CHAIRMAN'S RECOMMENDATION. WE COULD CONTINUE THEM AGAIN IF NEED BE. OR YOU COULD YOU COULD GIVE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT CERTAIN CHAPTERS TO BE HANDLED COMPLETELY BY THEMSELVES. IF THERE'S ENOUGH CONCERN AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE DIALOG, THAT WOULD BE THE OPTION OF THE BOARD. BUT I THINK CERTAINLY IN THE NEXT BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO IDENTIFY WHICH CHAPTERS YOU HAVE NO ISSUES WITH AND GET THOSE ADOPTED AT THE NEXT AT THE CONTINUED HEARING. OKAY. THAT WORK. SO WITH THAT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND THAT WILL GIVE US ALL TIME TO GO THROUGH AND MAYBE ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS IF WE NEED IT. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PERSIS. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CARROLL.

YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. YES, MA'AM.

[County Attorney]

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SEEING NONE. AND SO NOW I ASK THE BOARD TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE THE BOND ISSUE BY ASCENSION MOTION TO ADOPT SECOND MOTION. AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM 18 REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 18 OF THE BAY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER, CODE OF ORDINANCES, MR. LEEBRICK. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS PART OF OUR ONGOING EFFORT TO REVIEW COUNTY ORDINANCES AND MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED. THIS IS A PARKS AND REC CHAPTER. AND THE THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED. ONE WOULD. AUTHORIZE THE BOARD BY RESOLUTION TO ADOPT SPECIFIC RULES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL PARKS. I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE'LL BE SEEING SOME.

PROPOSALS FROM PARKS AND REC FOR FOR RULES FOR INDIVIDUAL PARK SYSTEMS. SO THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE THAT SYSTEM. THE OTHER ONE WOULD CODIFY A PRACTICE THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED WHERE. ALCOHOL WOULD BE ALLOWED IN PARKS AS PART OF A AN APPROVED SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WOULD HAVE CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS INSURANCE AND OTHER THINGS, AND THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER COULD OVERSEE AND COULD CHOOSE NOT TO ALLOW OR ALLOW ALCOHOL AS HE SEES FIT. THAT'S IT. OKAY, AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. OPEN THIS UP TO THE FLOOR. ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. SEEING NONE WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CROSBY. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER. RAPHAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CAROL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. NOW. ITEM 19, HIGH IMPACT PERIOD REGULATIONS. ORDINANCE. MR. LIEBER, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING IS AN ORDINANCE THAT PROPOSES A SERIES OF ACTIONS TO ADDRESS SECURITY ISSUES AND CROWD CONTROL ISSUES DURING HIGH VISITOR PERIODS IN THE

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AND, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THE MAYOR OF PANAMA CITY BEACH IS HERE AS WELL. AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MAJOR BALDWIN. IN KEEPING IN TUNE WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS SINCE 2015, WE'VE WE HAD THE ISSUES AT SPRING BREAK THAT WE CAME TO YOU WITH THE ISSUES AND NEEDING YOUR ASSISTANCE IN GIVING US SOME TOOLS IN OUR TOOL BAG TO TO MAKE THIS TROUBLE GO AWAY AND TO ENFORCE THE LAWS AND ORDINANCES THAT THAT WERE CREATING SUCH AN ISSUE TO OUR CITIZENS. SO IN KEEPING WITH TUNE WITH MIRRORING WHAT PANAMA CITY BEACH HAS DONE, MIRRORING WHAT YOU DID BACK IN THOSE DAYS, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BOTH OF US IN THAT ONE UNIT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR BAY COUNTY, PANAMA CITY BEACH AND ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THE SHERIFF AND I REALLY THINK THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US MORE TOOLS TO HELP US ENFORCE THAT JUVENILE, THAT UNACCOMPANIED JUVENILE ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD USING OUR BAY ROCK, USING ALL THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN A AN ISSUE IS COMING TO BAY COUNTY AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO TALK WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE COUNTY TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT SPECIAL IMPACT ZONE THAT WE HAD FROM THE GOVERNOR, WHICH REALLY HELPED WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES. WE HAD SOME OF THOSE POP UP PARTIES AND JUST THAT TAKEOVER BAY COUNTY. CRIME THAT WAS COMING TO US FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. BUT WE REALLY THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD TOOL TO HELP US WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE BEACH. THEY ALREADY HAVE IT PASSED. WE'D ASK THAT YOU PLEASE PASS IT AS WELL. THE BIG THING IS THAT UNACCOMPANIED MINOR ISSUE THAT WE CAN HAVE, WHERE WE CAN DEAL WITH CITATIONS, WE CAN DEAL WITH REMOVING PEOPLE, WE CAN DO CURFEWS, WE CAN RESTRICT ACCESS TO AREAS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST GOING TO COME AND CONGREGATE AND HAVE NO THEY HAVE NO RESPECT WHEN THEY SHOW UP. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T HAVE PARENTAL GUIDANCE WHILE THEY'RE HERE. AND WE SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND WE'D LIKE TO NOT SEE ANY MORE OF THAT OR GIVE US THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO COMBAT THAT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, SEEING THAT THERE IS IMPACT TO TO OTHER AREAS BEYOND LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT FOR US, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ON BEHALF OF SHERIFF FORD, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS PASSED, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISTER BOLDEN OTHER THAN THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE UNBELIEVABLE JOB YOU GUYS DO AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN THOSE. YES, SIR. THOSE BUSY TIMES. WE WE

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CAN WE LET THE MAYOR SPEAK FIRST, OR IF HE. I'M ASSUMING HE WAS COMING UP HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO. I'M HAVING AN ATTACK. OKAY, THEN WE'LL LET YOU BACK OUT, OKAY? SORRY. YES, MA'AM. PLEASE. TO. IS THE PUBLIC NEED TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I FIGURED WE'D TALK AND THEN GIVE IT TO THE. I DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN AGAIN. I DIDN'T KNOW THE MAYOR WANTED TO COME UP HERE. MAJOR BALDWIN WAS SO ELEGANT AND SUCH A GENTLEMAN IN HIS STATEMENT JUST NOW. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU THE ROUND TO THE BRASS TACKS OF THIS THING. I'VE BEEN WORKING SPRING BREAK SINCE 2013. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AT NIGHT, WALKING THE STREET IN FRONT OF WHATEVER CONDOS THAT I REPRESENTED, WHICH WERE ALL UP AND DOWN THE BEACH FROM WEST END, ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE WE HAVE THE PROBLEM NOW EVERY SINGLE NIGHT TILL TWO, THREE, 4 OR 5:00 IN THE MORNING. WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO US WITH THE PROBLEM IN 2014, 2015, IT WAS KIDS THAT WERE OF AGE THAT WERE CAUSING THE PROBLEM. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE GOT THE BAD ELEMENT THAT CAME IN AND I WAS NOT HERE, BUT THIS BOARD DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND IT STOPPED IT. IT TURNED THE FACE OF PANAMA CITY AROUND. I WAS RENTING TO SPRING BREAKERS FOR YEARS. I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY THAT WE DIDN'T DO SPRING BREAK.

EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN MY LINE OF WORK DID SPRING BREAK. SPRING BREAK TURNED BAD, AND WHEN IT DID, THIS BOARD FIXED IT. NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE UNACCOMPANIED MINORS ARE TAKING OVER OUR BEACH COMPLETELY. WHEN I SAY TAKING IT OVER, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE PANAMA CITY BEACH DEPARTMENT ARE ON THE BEACH AND THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY THOUSANDS OF KIDS, THOUSANDS OF THEM. THERE IS NO WAY THAT SOMETHING REALLY BAD IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S JUST THE ODDS THEY HAVE GOTTEN GUNS, DRUGS, ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF OFF OF THESE YOUNG KIDS? AND THEY ARE OUT AT PIER PARK SHOOTING THE PLACE UP.

THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE BEACH IN FRONT OF SHORES OF PANAMA AND LAKETOWN WHARF AND PINEAPPLE WILLIES, AND HAVE PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED THE REPUTATION OF THOSE CONDOS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, 2500 OR SO UNITS. THE OWNERS IN THOSE UNITS HAVE WATCHED THESE CROWDS GATHER OUT IN FRONT. I'VE WATCHED THEM AT MY BUSINESS. I'VE WATCHED PEOPLE TELL ME OR LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELL ME, SAY, WHAT HAS HAPPENED. EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE WHOLE STRIP ON THOMAS DRIVE IS COVERED IN A BLUE LIGHT. YOU IMMEDIATELY PULL UP AND YOU THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A MASS KILLING, WHICH COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS TO THAT POINT THEY ARE SHOOTING HANDGUNS. THEY'RE SHOOTING AUTOMATIC RIFLES ON THOMAS DRIVE ON OUR BEACH. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. DO I THINK THIS WHAT HAS BEEN DRAWN UP BY THE BEACH IS GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING? I DON'T I WISH IT HAD MORE TEETH. I WISH WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT SPIT ON THE POLICE AND TALK NASTY TO THEM AND TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT GOING TO. THEY CAN'T MOVE THEM. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THEM, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. AND IF THEY'RE TOO YOUNG TO TAKE THEM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR PARENTS FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR. IT IS 100% OUT OF CONTROL WHEN PEOPLE CANNOT GO TO PIER, PARK AND SHOP BECAUSE OF RAPID GUNFIRE. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THE BEACH HAS TAKEN THE LEAD. THEY HAVE PULLED THIS ORDINANCE TOGETHER. I DON'T THINK IT'S 100%, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO TO ROLL WITH. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE MINUTE THE BEACH, THEY'VE ALREADY ADOPTED IT. AND IF WE SIT UP HERE AND WE DON'T ADOPT IT, OR WE WANT TO SIT HERE AND MASSAGE IT AS SLOW AS GOVERNMENT IS FOR, YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE MONTHS. THEY'RE GOING TO JUST MOVE THEIR PARADE, THEIR CLOWN SHOW, DOWN TO THE DOWN TO THE PIER, DOWN TO THE COUNTY PIER OR TO THE COUNTY PROPERTY. SO I DON'T WANT US TO SIT HERE AND BE BEHIND THE THE CURTAIN AND NOT SWIFTLY MOVE TO GO AHEAD AND AND FOLLOW THE BEACH ON WHAT WHAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO WORK NOW, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OR IF IT NEEDS CHANGES WE HAVE NEXT YEAR, WE CAN TWEAK IT. WE CAN COMPLETELY DO AWAY WITH IT. BUT TO SIT HERE AND FOR US NOT TO MOVE ON, SOMETHING I THINK IS A MISTAKE.

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I'LL JUST BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. I THINK I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE. THEY'RE IN FEAR OF TAKING THEIR CHILDREN, OF WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE, WHAT THEY MIGHT HEAR WHEN YOU HEAR SHOOTINGS IN PIER PARK. THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE.

AND THAT BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE ACCEPTED. I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE BOARD. WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PUSH THAT AWAY FROM FROM OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH IT. JUST ONE COMMENT. JUST WANT TO THANK THE BEACH CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR LEGAL STAFF OUT THERE FOR Y'ALL TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS. WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

CONTINUE TO HAVE ONE. AND IT IS A UNITED FRONT. LIKE BRIAN SAYS, NO ONE KNOWS IF YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY. EVEN THE COUNTY PEERS IN THE CITY. SO I THINK YOU GIVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS TOO MUCH CREDIT TO KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE IN THE COUNTY. SO, WELL, MAYBE SO.

MAYBE SO. YES, YES. SO YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PARK THERE ANYTIME YOU LIKE, SIR. SO BUT NO, MAKE SURE YOU CLICK THE CLICK THE CODE THERE. HE'S A RESIDENT SO HE'S GOOD TO GO.

BUT NO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY I MEAN WE ARE UNITED YOU KNOW, UNIFIED FRONT BETWEEN THE BEACH AND THE COUNTY. AND WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE GOT TO PROTECT THESE VISITORS. THAT BEACH LIVES OFF THE VISITOR TRAFFIC. AND WE GOT TO KEEP THOSE THOSE KIDS SAFE. ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME HERE AND VISIT THIS INCREDIBLE BEACH THAT WE HAVE. SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE IS POSITIVE. IT'S ALWAYS CHAMBER KIND OF DAY. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU SIR, I AGREE.

I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THE TEETH. THEY NEED THE TOOLS. THEY NEED TO KEEP OUR OUR FEET SAFE AND ATTRACTIVE FOR THE FAMILIES TO COME. FAMILIES WHAT WE WANT TO ATTRACT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IMAGE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING STEPS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S A SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO COME. SO I AGREE COMPLETELY. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENTS, I'LL OPEN THIS UP. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

HI. I'M GAYLE DEAN, 301 DELUNA PLACE AT PANAMA CITY BEACH IN THE LAGUNA BEACH AREA, AND I HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK THROUGHOUT THE LAGUNA AREA WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE AREA AND EXACTLY THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS, AND I WILL TELL YOU, YOU HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM THE FOLKS IN LAGUNA BEACH TO DO THIS. THEY WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE IT SAFE. AND IF IT IF SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS DON'T COME, WE'LL GET OTHER CUSTOMERS HERE. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING ON THIS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS MICHAEL KIRCHNER I LIVE AT 5418 PINE TREE ON THE BEACHSIDE. I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER RAFFIELD COMMISSIONER CROSBY AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER PEACE. HER COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT THE IMPACT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO LIGHT SINCE THE BEACH ACTUALLY ADOPTED. THERE'S THERE'S A NEW FLORIDA STATUTE. I THINK I SHARED THAT WITH COMMISSIONER RAFFIELD AND COMMISSIONER CROSBY. IT'S ABOUT REGULATING EMPLOYMENT HOURS FOR EMPLOYEES.

SO SOME OF THE SECURITY PROTOCOLS THAT ARE PUT IN FOR MANPOWER AND PEOPLE HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED AT THIS FROM THIS HOUR TO THIS HOUR. I THINK THAT'S PREEMPTED BY STATE STATUTE.

BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME, I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DO NEED CHANGE ON THE BEACH. BUT TO GO BACK TO CHAIRMAN MOORE'S COMMENT ON ANOTHER MATTER, THESE ARE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HAPPENED. BY REGULATING OUT SPRING BREAK AND THERE BEING A VACUUM CREATED. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ANY SORT OF DIG. I DO

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AND I THINK THERE'S PORTIONS OF THIS THAT RELATE TO THE REGULATION OF THE CONDOS AND THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. IT'S BAD LAW. IT'S AN ENCROACHMENT ON STATE LAW. THE OTHER THING IS WHEN 2318 WAS WRITTEN REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION, THE BAY COUNTY DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT. NONE OF THOSE CONDOS ARE REGISTERED WITH THE COUNTY OTHER THAN BED TAX. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT COMING UP IN, THE POLICE COMING UP TO REACH OUT TO THAT RESPONSIBLE PARTY, THERE IS NO RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR CONDOS. SO YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND REWRITE THAT AND INCORPORATE RESPONSIBLE PARTY BEFORE ACTUALLY ENACTING THIS PORTION OF IT. SO AGAIN, BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH CHIEF TAO AND OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NEVER DONE AND I FILED TWO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. THERE WAS NEVER ANY NEXUS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE SHOOTINGS ARE ACTUALLY STAYING AT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A PACK OF WILD DOGS OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE DOESN'T MEAN THOSE ARE MY DOGS. SO AGAIN, I THINK LOOKING AT AND BIFURCATING THE PUBLIC SAFETY SECTOR VERSUS THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND THE CONDOS SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THIS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DID. YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MAYOR? SORRY. STUART TETTEMER, 300 TARPON STREET. CHAIRMAN MOORE. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING THIS. WE ALL KNOW THAT WHAT HAPPENED THIS SPRING CAN'T HAPPEN.

COMMISSIONER RAPHAEL, YOU SAID YOUR FAMILY DOESN'T GO OUT TO THE BEACH DURING SPRING BREAK.

I HAVE RESIDENTS WHO WILL NOT GO TO CERTAIN AREAS OF THE BEACH DURING SPRING BREAK. THEY CALL THESE THINGS TAKEOVER EVENTS. WE CAN'T LET THEM. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM TAKE OVER PANAMA CITY BEACH. SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE CARES PROGRAM. THANK YOU FOR THE TDC PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING. THAT'S ALL PART OF A PACKAGE HERE TO KEEP PANAMA CITY BEACH SAFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, AND FOR OUR VISITORS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU REAL QUICK, BRIAN I KNOW. YES, SIR. COME ON. PLEASE COME FORWARD WHILE YOU'RE COMING FORWARD. BRIAN. BRIAN, THE ITEM WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE STATE STATUTE AND YOU HAD SENT OUT AN EMAIL. WOULD YOU MIND ADDRESSING THAT REAL QUICK, PLEASE? YEAH. SO THERE, THERE. LAST YEAR, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED AN ORDINANCE. PREEMPTING REGULATION REGARDING THE SCHEDULING OF EMPLOYEES. I LOOKED INTO THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY FOR THAT, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY COURT DECISIONS INTERPRETING IT. BUT IT'S IT'S VERY CLEAR FROM THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY THAT WHAT THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS WAS ABOUT THE ABOUT THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, MAKING, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THERE WERE JURISDICTIONS THAT WERE SAYING, WELL, YOU HAVE TO GIVE YOU HAVE TO GIVE EMPLOYEES SEVEN DAYS NOTICE BEFORE THE THEIR NEXT SCHEDULE COMES OUT, OR YOU CAN'T DO YOU CAN'T FORCE SOMEBODY TO DO A CLOSING SHIFT FOLLOWED BY OPENING SHIFT OR STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I, I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING, NOT THE. AND WHAT THIS ORDINANCE SAYS IS IT JUST REQUIRES CERTAIN TYPES OF SECURITY AT CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY DURING A HIGH IMPACT PERIOD.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THEY BE EMPLOYEES. IT DOESN'T SAY HOW THEY DO THEIR SCHEDULING. IT JUST REQUIRES THAT THEY, THROUGH SOME METHOD, PROVIDE A METHOD FOR SECURITY. SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CONCERN THAT THAT THE CHANGE TO CHAPTER 448 IS IMPLICATED HERE.

SORRY SIR. THANK YOU. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ADDRESS IS 4342 HUCKLEBERRY LANE. IN YOUR NAME, BRUCE PRIEST. YES, SIR. PLEASE. OKAY. MINE IS CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING AS A DISABLED PERSON A LITTLE BIT. HAVE TROUBLE WALKING AS. JUST BROUGHT IT TO THE HEAD. I WALKED UP HERE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE I'D GET A TICKET AND ANYBODY ELSE

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THANK YOU. AS IT RELATES MY COMMENTS. AS YOU KNOW, CLAIRE, YOU SAID YOU STARTED WORKING THERE IN 2013. I WAS LIVING ON THE BEACH, AND I REMEMBER IN 2015 WHEN EVERYTHING WAS HAPPENING, BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY STEPPED UP AND ACTED AND AND OVERALL, I'D SAY PROBABLY 80 TO 90% OF THE OVERLAID WHERE THEY WERE DOING THE SAME THING. AND I REMEMBER AT THAT TIME THERE WERE THERE WERE A LOT OF FEELINGS BOTH WAYS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AFFECT A LOT OF BUSINESSES DO THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I AT THE TIME, I THOUGHT, KUDOS TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SITTING WHERE WE SIT NOW THAT WERE WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON AND BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS AND WHERE THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE. I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF. I KNOW CLAIRE JUMPED ON THIS IMMEDIATELY THROUGH BOTH BEING THE CHAIR OF THE TDC, AS WELL AS BEING ONE OF THE BEACH COMMISSIONERS MEETING WITH THE CITY AS WELL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WORKING THROUGH THESE THINGS AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS. I KNOW THIS IS JUST ONE AVENUE THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ADDRESS. I KNOW THE TDC IS TRYING TO ADDRESS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF TARGETING DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND DO SO. THIS PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A LAYER UPON LAYER OF TRYING TO ADDRESS.

BUT I DO THINK THAT ONE THING THAT IS PROVEN THROUGH THE TIME IS WE'VE GOT TO FACE IT, WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS IT, AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS BECAUSE OF HOW THIS IS MOVING. AND THE POINTS YOU RAISED ARE VALID. BUT I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK IN THIS CASE, THE WE KNOW THE CONSEQUENCE OF NOT DOING ANYTHING AND WHAT WE'VE GOT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE SHERIFF SPECIFICALLY CAME TO ME AND ASKED, GIVE ME THESE TOOLS. AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I'M GOING TO TRUST TOMMY AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND HIS CREW THAT ARE WORKING WITH CHIEF TOWLE AND HIS CREW TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. AND THE CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN AS WELL, SAYING, WE THOUGHT WE GOT RID OF THIS IN 2015. IT'S COMING BACK. WE DON'T NEED TO LET THIS BUILD. FROM MY STANDPOINT, I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'RE PRICKING A BALLOON AND TRYING TO GET TO IT BEFORE IT GETS TOO BIG AND IT CAUSES A BIGGER ISSUE. AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION, WHICH I THINK I WAS GETTING. SO, MR. CROSBY, MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. PEACE.

YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND GRANT AGREEMENT WITH GLOBAL IMPACT PRODUCTS, LLC AND TRIUMPH GULF COAST.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, THIS HAS TO DO WITH A A LEASE FOR THE FOR A PORTION OF THE OLD INCINERATOR PROPERTY AND A RELATED GRANT AGREEMENT WITH TRIUMPH GULF COAST. BOTH OF THESE ITEMS INDEPENDENTLY HAVE COME TO YOU BEFORE. THESE ARE THE THE FINAL VERSIONS. SO. THE THE THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THEY WILL THE THE COMPANY GLOBAL IMPACT PRODUCTS WILL PAY $2 MILLION LEASE FEE UP FRONT AND AND THEN IT'S A DOLLAR A YEAR AFTER THAT. IT IS TIED TO THE. TO THE JOB TARGETS THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN THE IN THE GRANT AGREEMENT. AND THE OTHER CONDITIONS OF THE TRIUMPH GRANT AND ARE. UNDER THE TERMS OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT, THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE SOME FUNDING WHICH IT CAN USE TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TO THE PROPERTY TO FACILITATE THE THE NEW BUSINESS THAT'S GOING IN THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY IT. I'VE TALKED A LOT TODAY. SO. ALL RIGHT. NOT THAT MUCH. SO THIS IS STILL PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO COME AND SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD MORNING, MR. COMMISSIONER AND THE BOARD. THANK YOU. THIS IS MY NAME IS BECCA HARDIN AND I'M AT 5232 FINISTERE DRIVE. I'M ALSO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS HERE IN BAY COUNTY. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE BROUGHT YOU ABOUT A YEAR AGO,

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SEEING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION AND MULTIPLE SECONDS. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. PEACE. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER CROSBY. YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER. RAFAEL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER. CARROLL. YES, MA'AM. CHAIRMAN. MOORE.

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THIS IS OPEN TO ANY ISSUE WHICH YOU THINK THE COUNTY MAY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. MICHAEL KERSHNER 5418. PINE TREE, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM, AND I WON'T GO BACK TO THAT. BUT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE THE SPRING BREAK ISSUES, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I BROUGHT TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AFTER REVIEWING OVER 600 POLICE REPORTS AND CASES FROM THE CRIMINAL COURT. I KNOW CHIEF TALAMANTEZ OVER THERE MET WITH THE CHIEF JUDGE AT THE COURT. I KNOW THAT'S AN INDEPENDENT BODY FROM THIS BODY, BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SAW DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WAS A REVOLVING DOOR. LARRY BATTS WAS OFFICE, WAS NOT AGGRESSIVELY PROSECUTING THOSE CASES. FELONIES WERE GETTING REDUCED TO MISDEMEANORS. FIREARMS THAT WERE SEIZED WERE BEING PUT BACK IN THE HANDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS WITH NO OBJECTION FROM MR. BASFORD'S OFFICE. SO THE TRUE TEETH AS WHAT WAS SPOKEN TO EARLIER IS THIS COMMISSION AND THE PANAMA CITY BEACH COMMISSION HOLDING THE JUDICIARY AND MR. BASFORD'S OFFICE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IMPOSING THE MAXIMUM PENALTIES. THESE FOLKS ARE COMING HERE. THEY'RE GETTING A $50 FINE, A WEEKEND IN JAIL AND GOING BACK. THAT IS NOT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO IF YOU TRULY WANT TO SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU JUST WENT THROUGH FIRST READING, THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS PUSHING THIS OVER AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE TO MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE TEETH IN THE BITE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JIMMY DODSON. MY ADDRESS IS 21 522 CLARKS ROAD AND FOUNTAIN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS MORNING AS MILITARY FIREFIGHTER FOR 20 YEARS, RETIRED AS ASSISTANT CHIEF, THEN SERVED AS A CAREER FIREFIGHTER, RETIRING AS AN OFFICER FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.

SO I HAVE A VAST KNOWLEDGE OF HOW EMERGENCY SERVICES SHOULD OPERATE. I WITNESSED SOME OF THE BEST FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS IN THE STATE HERE IN BAY COUNTY. I WITNESSED THEM RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES, INCLUDING A WILDFIRE IN A WOODED AREA ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. IT WOULD HAVE BURNED MY HOUSE PROBABLY IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THEM. WHEN IT WAS, IT WAS ANNOUNCED MATTHEW LINWOOD WAS ELECTED AS NEXT FIRE CHIEF EMERGENCY SERVICE. I WAS ENCOURAGED BY FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, WHICH CAME AS A STREET CREDIBILITY. HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS A MEMBER OF THE US NAVY, SO HE HAS EXPERIENCE WITH MILITARY COMMUNITY. IN HIS PREVIOUS ROLE, HE WAS ABLE TO DECREASE EMS RESPONSE TIMES BY 30% AS AND 10% INCREASE IN CALL VOLUME HAPPEN. HE IS ABLE TO REPLACE SEVEN VEHICLES WITH NEW AMBULANCES AND THREE MORE IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. HE WAS ABLE TO INCREASE STAFFING BY 24 AMBULANCE SERVICE PERSONNEL AND BRING ON THREE BATTALION CHIEFS BEFORE HE WAS HIRED AS DEPUTY CHIEF, WHERE HE WAS HIRED TO FIX STAFFING SHORTAGES IN MISSOURI. SO MY QUESTION TODAY IS WHAT CHANGED IN ADMINISTRATOR EDWARDS PROGRESSIVE APPROACH WHEN HE BECAME CHIEF IN BAY COUNTY? DID THE COMMISSION REQUIRE HIM TO CHANGE HIS STRATEGIES? SINCE HE WAS HIRED, SERVICES HAVE DECREASED, STAFFING SHORTAGES HAVE INCREASED. THERE ARE CURRENTLY 75 MILES BAY COUNTY THAT DO NOT HAVE FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES ON A FULL TIME BASIS, AND OUR COUNTY MANAGER SUPPORTS THAT. WE DON'T HAVE FULL TIME SERVICES LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTY DID. HE WAS HIRED FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO INCREASE OUR SERVICES AND THEY HAVE DECREASED THE STATION AND SANDHILLS IS ALL BUT CLOSED. STATION IN YOUNGSTOWN HAS BEEN DONE UNDER BROWNOUTS, AND THOSE RESOURCES HAVE BEEN MOVED ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS, TO STAFF AMBULANCES. FIRE STATIONS IS AN UNACCEPTABLE AND BLATANT DISREGARD FOR THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF THOSE SERVING IN THE COMMUNITY. MY COMMUNITY, THE UNFAIR TREATMENT AND LACK OF SERVICES TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE NORTH END THE COUNTY IS A DISGRACE. MANY THINGS DON'T CHANGE UNTIL THERE'S A TRAGEDY. TRAGEDY OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 28TH WHEN, AROUND 6 P.M. A THREE YEAR OLD CHILD WAS STRUCK BY A VEHICLE. THE FAMILY SCOOPED HIM UP AND DROVE TO THE STATION. THERE WAS

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SAFETY AND SECURITY ARE BASIC HUMAN NEEDS. WE ALL HAVE THOSE NEEDS. MY WIFE AND I NEED SAFETY AND SECURITY. AND I'VE GOT MORE THINGS TO SAY HERE. BUT I ONLY GOT 19 SECONDS. I TALKED TO RONNIE RONNIE SMITH THIS MORNING. HIS CHILD WAS THE ONE THAT WAS KILLED. THEY DROVE THAT CHILD, A POLICE OFFICER. BAY COUNTY, PICKED HIM UP ON 231 AND DROVE THAT CHILD TO THE HOSPITAL, NOT AN AMBULANCE. I'LL BE BACK. THANK YOU, SIR, THANK YOU. HI, GAIL DEAN, 301 TO LUNA PLACE, PANAMA CITY BEACH. LAGUNA BEACH COMMUNITY. MY PURPOSE IN COMING HERE TODAY IS TO RAISE AWARENESS, WHICH I KNOW YOU ALL ALREADY HAVE, ABOUT THE CONCERNS ABOUT PROTECTING OUR BEACH THIS PAST SEASON. I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE WE I KIND OF REFER TO IT AS A PLAGUE OF LOCUSTS, OF VENDORS ON THE BEACH, AND YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN REMARKABLE STEPS TO ADDRESS THAT. AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO ME IN THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, THEY GO TO THE BEACH, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A BEACH IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THE DEBRIS AND OTHER THINGS LEFT BEHIND BY THESE VENDORS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, WHICH I GREATLY APPRECIATE, IS OVER THE SUMMER, YOU'VE CHANGED SOME OF THE CODES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE THE BONFIRE FOLKS AND THE WEDDINGS, TO MAKE SURE THAT UPLAND OWNER APPROVAL IS REQUIRED FOR THOSE PERMITS. SO I KIND OF WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE KIND OF STAND ON THAT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING FULL VISIBILITY. FIRST, LET ME SAY PROCESS CHANGE IS ALWAYS CHALLENGING AND WE JUST NEED GREATER VISIBILITY. WE NEED MORE MONITORING, AND WE NEED ENFORCEMENT. THE BIGGEST CONCERN WE HAVE IS WITH THE BONFIRES. THEY'RE A THREAT TO THE BEACH AS WELL AS PERSONAL SAFETY, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TRUCKS ROARING UP AND DOWN THE BEACH IN THE DARK. MATTER OF TIME FOR SOMEBODY HIT ALSO THE DEBRIS. THEY DRIVE THROUGH THE DEBRIS THEY THROW, THEY DIG A HOLE AND PUT THE DEBRIS IN THE SAND. THEY ALSO THROW THE DEBRIS IN THE GARBAGE CANS. SO WE A RECENT EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE AND I KNOW I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, BUT I ASKED FOR DATA AND GOT DATA YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS. WE HAD A DOUBLE BONFIRE. OVER 100 PEOPLE ATTENDED OUTSIDE OF THOMAS'S DONUTS. AND SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATA THAT I GOT, IT WAS VERY SUMMARIZED. SO I COULDN'T TELL THINGS I HAD TO DEDUCE. ONE THING I KNOW IS THE OWNER APPROVAL WAS NEVER GIVEN, IT WAS NEVER REQUESTED, AND IT WAS NEVER GIVEN. SO THERE'S A PROCESS PROBLEM THERE. ALSO, JUST LOOKING AND TELLING. ANECDOTALLY THE BONFIRES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 200FT APART. THIS BONFIRE, THESE TWO BONFIRES WERE PROBABLY LESS THAN 50FT APART. SO THAT VIOLATED WHAT THE VENDOR WAS AGREEING TO DO. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE COMPLIANCE. WE'RE STANDING READY TO HELP YOU ALL IN ANY WAY WITH THE PROCESS, AND I WANT TO TAKE MY LAST FEW SECONDS TO THANK FOR. PEOPLE IN BAY COUNTY HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. DUSTIN MARSDEN OVER IN EMERGENCY SERVICES HELPED ME A LOT. VINCE MARTIN OVER IN PARKS AND RECREATION JACOB DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME. WOULD LEAVE. LEAVE NO TRACE AND SHERRY HARDY HERE, WHO HELPS MANAGE Y'ALL'S PROCESS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR HELP. SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, WE'RE RIGHT BEHIND Y'ALL. AND BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE. I KNOW IT TAKES A VILLAGE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANDREW HATCHETT, 829 CLEMENT DRIVE. APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP THIS MORNING. JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION TO MYSELF. I'M I LIVE HERE IN BAY COUNTY. I'VE GOT A DAUGHTER WHO GOES TO SCHOOL HERE IN BAY COUNTY. MY WIFE WORKS AT THE HOSPITAL HERE IN BAY COUNTY. I REPRESENT THE COMPANY CALLED TRUCK WORKS. WE WORK WITH A LOT OF THE VENDORS, WORK WITH A LOT OF THE CITIES. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTIES.

I'M NEW TO THE POSITION. JUST KIND OF WANTED TO COME UP, GIVE A FORMAL INTRODUCTION TO MYSELF, HOPING TO, YOU KNOW, DRUM SOME BUSINESS, DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT, MAYBE SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. WE ALL KNOW EQUIPMENT IS AN ISSUE. WE ALL KNOW THAT TECHNICIANS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT EQUIPMENT IS AN ISSUE, AND WE KNOW THAT THE TOOLS TO DO THAT IS A BIGGER PROBLEM. ALSO, TRAINING IS REQUIRED, PRICING OF TOOLS. EVERYTHING IS OUT THERE. SO WE OFFER FIVE DAY A WEEK PARTS DELIVERY. I LIVE RIGHT HERE IN TOWN. I'M A PHONE

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ANYONE ELSE? I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK I PROMISE. NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. HUNTER BAILEY 9232 US 231 I REPRESENT NORTH FLORIDA PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE'RE ONE OF THE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT YOU GUYS WILL SIGN A CONTRACT LATER ON TODAY THAT YOU VOTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR YOU GUYS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. I SERVE AS YOUR CLIENT MANAGER FOR HERE ALONG WITH MARK MASON. HE'S OUR SENIOR ENGINEER FOR THIS OFFICE. SO IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING FOR YOU, JUST LET US KNOW. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING FOR YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT.

[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT]

[CHAIRMAN & COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

WE ALSO HAVE ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25TH, THE YOUTH FISHING RODEO. BUT FRANK BROWN PARK, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PEASE. JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD VERY MUCH FOR GOING ALONG WITH THE CITY'S SPRING BREAK ORDINANCE. I DON'T TAKE A LOT OF FAITH AND FACEBOOK, BUT I DID. I WAS KEEPING UP WITH THE FACEBOOK POST FOR THE CAR SHOW THAT THEY HAD UP IN THE MOUNTAINS, WHERE THEY PRETTY MUCH SHUT THE TOWN DOWN, DESTROYED THE BUSINESSES, WERE DOING DONUTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR ROADS THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THEIR RECREATION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THE AREA WHERE ALL THE HOTELS AND STORES AND SHOPS ARE. AND IT WAS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. THEY THREW THAT GROUP OUT AND ARE NEVER GOING TO INVITE THEM BACK. BUT I DID NOTICE ONE OF THE POSTS THAT SAYS, WELL, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO THE BEACH. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THAT UP TILL THE END, BUT I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT ON WOULD YOU RECOMMEND ANOTHER BEACH? I HOPE IT'S MYRTLE DIRTY MYRTLE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER RAFAEL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK BECCA AND BEN FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THEY DO A GREAT JOB. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR BRAND NEW BABY, BEN. THAT'S THAT'S A BIG DEAL. I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON HIGH POINT LANDING. WE ARE STILL WAITING ON A PERMIT FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER. I HAVE BEEN WORKING LIKE CRAZY TRYING TO GET A PERMIT AGAIN. WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL OUT OF NEVADA. YOU HEARD THAT, CORRECT? NEVADA. ANYWAY, SO WE ARE PUSHING FORWARD AND GETTING THAT HAPPENING PRETTY QUICK. HOPEFULLY. ALSO TO THANK YOU TO PARKS AND REC FOR THE PHENOMENAL JOB THEY DID OVER THE WEEKEND. WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT. THE FALL HAYRIDE WAS GREAT TO SEE FAMILIES OUT. AND SO AT HARPER'S PARK. SO THANK YOU TO THEM AND THE GREAT JOB THEY DID. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER CARROLL. YES, SIR. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO PARKS AND REC. THEY HAD KIND OF DOUBLE DUTY. I GOT A TEXT EARLY IN THE MORNING OF WHY ARE ALL THESE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS GOING ON? BECAUSE THEY HAD SOCCER MATCHES THAT MORNING. SO THEN THEY HAD TO TRANSITION FROM SOCCER TO THE FALL FESTIVAL. SO GREAT JOB THERE. WENT TO THE MOST OF US WERE AT THE DELEGATION MEETING LAST NIGHT. GOT TO HEAR REPRESENTATIVE GRIFFITHS AND SENATOR TRUMBULL. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, THE CHAIRMAN, FOR YOUR OPENING REMARKS TO THEM. IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT TURNOUT IN HERE. WE GOT SOME GOOD UPDATES LAST WEEK. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON A PANEL IN TALLAHASSEE. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE HAS AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE THAT I GOT TO SIT ON. THEY ACTUALLY WANTED TO KNOW THE MAKEUP AND HOW COUNTY GOVERNMENTS WORK. THERE WERE REPRESENTATIVES, COUNTY COMMISSION THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO I WAS THANKFUL THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING INPUT AND NOT JUST MAKING RULES WITHOUT GETTING THE INPUT. SO I THINK IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE. AND ALSO LAST WEEK ATTENDED THE MEXICO BEACH CDC MEETING. AND THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT TIME. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO MEXICO BEACH IN A WHILE, I ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO GO VISIT MEXICO BEACH.

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SHE TURNED 14 YESTERDAY AND SHE JUST PICKED UP HER FIRST BOYFRIEND. I'M STILL NOT SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE LEADERSHIP. BAY, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE THINNED OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I WAS IN YOUR SEAT 13 YEARS AGO, SO WHO KNOWS, YOU MIGHT HAVE THIS TO LOOK FORWARD TO. AND THEN ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, I TALKED WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AS IT RELATES TO OUR APPEAL OF THE FEMA MONEY AND THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN HELD BACK, THAT'S COMING UP SOON, AND HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T GET PUSHED AGAIN. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL OF US AS COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH CITIZENS. AND I TALKED WITH CHIEF INFRASTRUCTURE OFFICER ABOUT THIS. AND WE HAVE ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, NOT JUST IN, IN THE BEACH OR ANYWHERE, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE STANDING WATER ISSUES, FLOOD RELATED ISSUES. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS TO TASK STAFF WITH DETERMINING ON IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS APPEAL, AND WE'RE ABLE TO RELEASE SOME FUNDS FROM THIS LOCKBOX, HOPEFULLY ALL OF IT.

IF IT WAS, IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING WITH. AND RIGHT NOW, THIS MONEY IS LOCKBOX TO REPAY FEMA. AND SO IT'S NOT DESIGNATED TO ANY PROJECTS WE HAVE INSIDE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SURTAX. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TASK STAFF WITH LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, PRIORITIZING AND THEN DETERMINING ON WHAT FUNDS ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ADDRESS, HOW DO WE LOOK AND GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO USE THIS MONEY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE FLOOD ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? I WOULD LIKE THEM TO PROVIDE US A PRIORITIZATION OF WHICH ONES ARE THE MORE IMPORTANT AREAS THAT FROM FROM A STANDPOINT OF RANKING THEM 1 TO 6, THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND ALSO RANKING FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHAT COST IS THAT? IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE IS GOING TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE GETS ADDRESSED. BUT WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, THREE, FIVE AND SIX MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET COMPLETELY SOLVED. BUT AT LEAST TO PUT THAT IN FRONT OF US, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT LOCATION IS THE WORST, BUT ALSO WHAT IS WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE. AND THEN BASED UPON THAT, SEEING WHAT FUNDS WE HAVE, WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE CAN LOOK TO ADDRESS THAT WITH WHAT I HOPE IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF FOUND MONEY, BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR, OUR STAFF FOLLOWED THE FOLLOW THE LAW. THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY COMPLETED THE GRANT APPLICATIONS. FEMA BLESSED TOLD US TO DO THIS AND THEN CAME TO US AFTERWARDS AND SAID, WHOOPS. SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT BACK AND BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ADDRESSED THAT WITH YOU ALL. FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.