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          YEAH, SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED HERE IN JUST A SECOND. THERE'S A NICE SIZED CROWD. I CAN VENTURE A GUESS AS TO WHY YOU'RE HERE. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE IS A THERE'S A PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL CALL EACH OF YOU FORWARD TO SPEAK ONCE. ONCE THAT PORTION IS CLOSED, THAT WILL BE, WELL, THIS THIS WILL APPEAR TWICE. SO YOU WILL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SO. BUT ONCE THAT'S CLOSED, THAT'S IT. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU THOUGHT OF THAT YOU DIDN'T SAY, AND YOU RAISE YOUR HAND BECAUSE YOU WANT TO COME UP AGAIN, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO UNLESS YOU WAIT UNTIL THE SECOND TIME THIS IS HEARD. SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS TOGETHER. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF YOU, AND EACH OF YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF YOU SO CHOOSE. SO FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY, WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BEEP. AND IF YOU'RE UP THERE AND THAT'S WHEN YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. SO APPRECIATE YOU COMING. AND THE ONLY THING I ASK IS THAT NO GRUMBLING YOU KNOW NO CLAPPING CHEERING. WE'LL KEEP IT CIVIL AND WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO 
          [A. Call to Order and Roll Call]
LEAD YOU THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS THE JANUARY 20TH, 2026 REGULAR MEETING OF THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION WILL CALL ROLL. MR. CHRISTIE? YES, MA'AM. MR. DAFFERN. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. 
          [B. Approval of Minutes (December 16, 2025) ]
HONEYCUTT. YES, MA'AM. MR. HAYMAN. YES, MA'AM. WE'VE GOT A B APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. CALL ROLL, MR. CHRISTIE. YES, MA'AM. MR. DAFFERN. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. HONEYCUTT. YES, 
          [C. Announcements ]
MA'AM. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. C ANNOUNCEMENTS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES AS FAR AS BOARD ACTION, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IS GOING TO BE ACTUALLY TOMORROW MORNING. SO I'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU THE NEXT MEETING ON THAT. I DID WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN THE LOCAL MEDIA RECENTLY REGARDING AN INTERNET SCAM THAT HAS BEEN TARGETING APPLICANTS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS SUCH AS THIS. THIS IS THE KIND WE HAVE HERE. WHAT'S OCCURRING IS WHEN SOMEONE SUBMITS AN APPLICATION FORM TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR LAND USE CHANGE OR ZONING CHANGE, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT VARIANCE, ANY SORT OF THING THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FORM AND THERE'S AN APPLICATION FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THAT FEE WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, AND ONCE THE APPLICATION FEE IS RECEIVED IN FULL, THAT'S WHEN THE ITEM WILL BE PLACED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. SO WHAT'S BEEN OCCURRING IS APPLICANTS ARE RECEIVING EMAILS GENERALLY A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING WITH AN INVOICE THAT SAYS THERE'S FURTHER FEES THAT ARE DUE, MORE FEES THAT ARE DUE, AND IF THE FEES AREN'T PAID BEFORE THE TIME OF THE HEARING, IT WOULD BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA, THAT SORT OF THING. THESE EMAILS ARE SENT TO THE APPLICANTS THEY APPEAR TO BE. THEY LOOK TO BE LIKE THEY'RE FROM COUNTY STAFF. THEY EVEN HAVE THE NAMES OF COUNTY STAFF, INCLUDING MINE. ON SOME OF THEM. THERE'S BEEN SOME THAT HAVE HAD YOUR NAMES ON THEM AND AND EVEN A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL. PLANNING STAFF DOES OUR BEST TO TO TO NOTIFY EACH APPLICANT OF THE SCAM IN THE HOPES THAT THERE ARE NO VICTIMS. WE HAVE HAD TWO UP TO THIS POINT, AND WE'VE ALSO ALERTED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE FORWARD THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, ANY ANY SCAM ALERTS WE RECEIVE FROM APPLICANTS AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL. THANK YOU. MOVE TO THE AGENDA. ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, 
          [D. Agenda – Additions, Deletions, Changes and Acceptance ]
CHANGES? NONE. THEN WE NEED TO MOVE TO ACCEPTANCE. I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA. SECOND. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. CHRISTIE. YES, MA'AM. MR. DEVON. 
          YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. HONEYCUTT. YES, MA'AM. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. 
          [E. Public Hearings (Swear in for quasi-judicial) ]
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, WE'LL NEED YOU TO STAND UP AND BE SWORN IN. IF YOU'RE UNSURE, JUST GO AHEAD AND STAND UP AND BE SWORN IN. AND THEN WHEN YOU DO APPROACH THE PODIUM, YOU'LL NEED TO LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND WHAT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IS. OKAY, FIRST ITEM IS LEGISLATIVE. DO YOU WANT TO WELL, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO I MEAN THAT'S. YOU'RE PLANNING ON 
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SPEAKING. PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, RIGHT. WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE INDICATE THAT YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY SWORN. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER ONE. CONDITION OF CONDUCT A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING. PLD, PA 20250259. TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 62.3 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE AND CONSERVATION HABITATION TO RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF CLEMENT DRIVE. AND IS IT? DRIVE AND NORTH OF NEWMAN POINT ROAD AND SOUTHPORT AREA. STAFF PRESENTATION. WAYNE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS STATED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN APPROVAL OF A LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 62 ACRES. PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF CLEMENT DRIVE AND NORTH OF NEWMAN POINT ROAD IN THE SOUTHPORT AREA. TABLE THREE A OF. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY IN THE SUBURBAN SERVICE AREA. THE PURPOSE OF THIS DESIGNATION IS TO PROVIDE AREAS FOR FUNCTIONAL COMPATIBLE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL LAND USES AND TO PROTECT PROPERTY VALUES AND VIABLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PROPERTY IS IN WHAT REPRESENTS AN ENCLAVE OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSERVATION LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY SURROUNDED BY THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. ALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES LOCATED TO THE NORTH, WEST, NORTH WEST, AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BOUNDARIES HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DENSITY WITHIN THE SUBURBAN SERVICE AREA IS FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, CONTINGENT UPON THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE. THE CURRENT MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR THE AGRICULTURAL PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS ONE DWELLING UNIT PER TEN ACRES, AND THE MAXIMUM, THE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR THE CONSERVATION HABITATION PORTION IS TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THEREFORE, WHAT THAT SAYS IS, WITH ITS CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS, THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY DENSITY CURRENTLY IS A MAXIMUM OF 48 UNITS, SO THEY COULD DEVELOP THE PROPERTY FOR THAT. TODAY, MUNICIPAL POTABLE WATER IS AVAILABLE IN THE AREA. MUNICIPAL WASTEWATER IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE AREA WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF SERVICE. THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THE AVAILABLE UTILITIES AND UNDERSTANDS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THESE SERVICES. IF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES. SUCH STAFF FEELS THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT, COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT'S THEREFORE RECOMMENDED THE COMMISSION FIND THE PROPOSED LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT TO THE BAY COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE MAP, CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND FORWARD, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. WE HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAIL EMAILS IN REGARD TO THIS REQUEST, WHICH THOSE HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU. AT LAST COUNT, IT WAS 60 PLUS EMAILS. ALL WERE IN OPPOSITION HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I'VE GOT ONE, WAYNE. I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO THE CONSERVATION, HABITATION, CLASSIFICATION, THE DENSITY RIGHT NOW IS TWO UNITS PER ACRE. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THEY CAN WITH THE WATER AVAILABLE, THEY COULD PUT A SEPTIC TANK. THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND DO AN ON SITE OR THEY COULD DO CITY SEWER. SO THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A ISSUE WE'LL RESOLVE LATER IF THEY WHENEVER THEY GO FOR DEVELOPMENT ORDER. IS THAT CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THE CURRENT THE CONSERVATION ZONING HABITATION DOES ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IS TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. AND SO THAT TOTALS HOW MANY DID YOU SAY 40 OR 48 WITH THE CURRENT. 
          LAND USE AND ASSOCIATED ZONING DESIGNATIONS, IT WOULD BE 48 UNITS MAXIMUM. OKAY. HOW MANY CAN THEY BUILD IF IT'S CHANGED? SO THAT WOULD DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THE. THE MUNICIPAL SEWER SYSTEM. THIS APPLICANT HAS HAS NOT EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN DOING THAT. THEY WERE LOOKING AT DOING MORE SEPTIC ON SITE SEPTIC SYSTEMS WITH MUNICIPAL WATER AND MUNICIPAL SEWER. YOUR MAXIMUM DENSITY IS FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE MUNICIPAL WATER BUT NO PUBLIC SEWER, THEN THE THE STATE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION WILL REQUIRE AT LEAST A QUARTER ACRE LOTS FOR SEPTIC PLACEMENT. SO WITH A QUARTER ACRE LOTS, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY THEY WOULD GET THEN? SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR MAXIMUM. YOUR MAXIMUM WOULD BE, I GUESS FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          [00:10:03]
OKAY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ALSO CONTINGENT UPON THINGS LIKE THERE'S BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FROM THE SHORELINE. THERE'S WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE DEVELOPERS WANTING NOT TO AFFECT. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO CLUSTER TO KEEP AWAY FROM, FROM THOSE AREAS AS WELL. OKAY. AS SOMEBODY'S DONE THE MATH AND FIGURED OUT, THOUGH, WHAT THE ADDITIONAL NUMBER OF HOMES I MEAN, IS IT TEN? IS IT 30 MORE IN ADDITION TO THE 48 AS SOMEBODY LOOKED AT THIS LIKE WHERE THEY'RE HOPING TO LAND ON WHAT THEY HOPE TO BUILD IF THIS CHANGE WERE APPROVED. SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK, BUT THEIR APPLICATION STATES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 100 NEW UNITS, NEW LOTS. SO THE DELTA THAT'D BE 52 MORE HOMES ABOVE. BEYOND. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU WILLIAM, MOVE NOW TO APPLICANT PRESENTATION. IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK? YES. OKAY. I'M KIM BADAMI REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. AND I'VE READ THROUGH SOME OF THE MOST OF ALL THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE GOTTEN YOUR ADDRESS TO PLEASE. 0666225 HIGHWAY 2311. YEAH. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, I'LL LEAN OVER. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN THE APPLICANT'S OWNERSHIP FOR 13 YEARS. WE DIDN'T JUST GO OUT AND BUY THIS PROPERTY RECENTLY. IT HAS BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL FANNING BAYOU OVERALL MASTER PLAN. AND SINCE THIS WAS DISCONNECTED LAND WISE FROM THAT AREA, THIS IS THE LAST BIT. AND THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS LAND IS ALREADY ZONED IN CONSERVATION HABITAT. IN THE NORTH PART WAS A AG ONE, BUT IT'S IN A COMPLETE TRACT OF 60 ACRES. SO IT'S GOT TWO DIFFERENT ZONES LAND USE AND ZONING ZONE, ONE BIG TRACT. SO. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT ALL INTO ONE ZONING CATEGORY. AND MOST OF THE ZONING AROUND. AND THAT LAND USE AROUND THIS AREA, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS RESIDENTIAL. IT'S R1, R2. SO WE INTEND TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S AROUND US AND MEET ALL THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE AND THE STATE AND FEDERAL RULES, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY, WHEN WE DID OUR REALLY CONCEPTUAL LAYOUTS, WE COULD ONLY GET 100, ROUGHLY 100 ANYWAY. SO AND WE AT A QUARTER ACRE LOT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYBODY OUT THERE. SO AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTAL, WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY ENVIRONMENTAL DONE FLAGGED ON SITE. WE HAVE MAYBE 11 ACRES OF WETLANDS AROUND THE PERIMETER. AND WE DON'T SEE ANY IMPACTS, ANY PRIMARY IMPACTS NECESSARY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THERE'S FLOODPLAINS OUT THERE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE NORTH BAY. WE DON'T INTEND TO GET INTO THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WE ARE CREATING JUST BY BEING AWAY FROM THE WETLANDS AND THE FLOODPLAIN. WE WILL BE REALLY A LONG DISTANCE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE TRIBUTARY. AND TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT ELSE WAS COMMENTED ON. YOU KNOW, DURING, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHENEVER WE DO THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER WITH 100 UNITS. AS YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS, I GUESS, TO THE NEIGHBORS A LOT, BUT IT'S REALLY BASED ON SALES, MARKETABILITY, THE NEED REALLY OF THE COMMUNITY. THE APPLICANT IS NOT GOING TO BUILD WAY MORE THAN NECESSARY. THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ALL THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OUT THERE IF THERE'S NOT A NEED, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE STUCK WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE ASSET. SO THEY WORK WITH THE NEED, JUST LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES. YOU KNOW, THEY THEY WATCH PERMITS IN THE AREA AND THEY. PLAN FOR GROWTH SUPPOSED TO BE PLANNING FOR GROWTH. BUT AT 100 UNITS, YOU KNOW, AT THIS RATE RECENTLY, I MEAN, IT MAY TAKE FIVE YEARS TO BUILD THIS OUT. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN AND BUILD 100 HOUSES AT ONCE. SO AND THIS IS NOT A BIG 1400 UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY, REALLY 
          [00:15:01]
WOULD NEED TO, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, BUILD IT. THEY WILL COME. THIS IS NOT YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THEY BUILD AND BASED ON THE NEED. SO SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU ADAM OKAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION. SO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK I'LL NEED YOU TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. I'LL REMIND YOU, INDICATE WELL, I GUESS HERE NOT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WHEN YOU. BEFORE YOU SPEAK. SO DOES ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. STAND IN LINE AND YOU CAN STAND IN LINE. 
          AND I'LL REMIND YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY BETTER MAP? CAN WE? ANYBODY CAN PULL UP THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAP AND TOUCH IT AND HIGHLIGHT WHAT ACTUALLY THEY OWN. IT'S ACTUALLY A HIGHLIGHTED AROUND THE AREA SO WE CAN GET A BETTER VISUAL. ARE YOU ASKING FOR AN AERIAL? YEAH. JUST THE PROPERTY APPRAISER PROPERTY YOU TAP ON I'M SAYING NO TAP IT ON. IT HIGHLIGHTS ALL THE WAY AROUND. I'M SAYING GIVES YOU A LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF IT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT. YES. AND ON THIS. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE WETLANDS. WELL, JUST LIKE THE PROPERTY MAP, WHEN I'M SAYING THERE'S KIND OF A SEMI WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHTED THAT YOU CAN JUST GET A BETTER VIEW OF ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE, THE BLACK BLACK HASH MARKS, THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. 
          MY NAME IS RYAN LENNOX. I LIVE AT 1115 SANTA ROSA COURT. LIFELONG RESIDENT, SOUTHPORT. 
          ACTUALLY, THAT'S MY HOUSE I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN. THIS AFFECTS A LOT MORE THAN SHE SAYS. IT'S JUST 100 HOUSES. WE HAVE TWO DEVELOPMENTS. ONE'S A QUARTER OF A MILE. WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT PHANTOM BAYOU, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NEWMAN BAYOU, THE CORRECT WAY. YOU SHOULD PRONOUNCE THE BAYOU. BUT WE ALSO HAVE HODGE'S BAYOU. THEY'RE BUILDING AS FAST AS THEY CAN BUILD THEM. AND SHE SAYS FIVE YEARS. THAT'S. LOOK AT HODGES BY YOU. AND LOOK AT FANNIN. SO WE GOT ENOUGH D.R. HORTON WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. IF YOU CAN SEE THE BLACK DOTS, HOW IT'S SEPARATED. WE GOT THE FIRST PARCEL ON NEWMAN POINT, THE GREEN GOING THROUGH WETLANDS. AND THE OTHER ONE, IT'S AGRICULTURAL CONSERVATION. CONSERVATION? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? CONSERVE AND PROTECT. WE HAVE WILDLIFE THERE. WE HAVE GOPHER TORTOISES. WE HAVE CRAWFISH. THAT THE CONSERVATION PARK LYNNHAVEN BUILT WAS TO, YOU KNOW, SECURE THESE ANIMALS. 
          THEY JUST WANT TO MOW IT ALL DOWN. THAT CREEK IS ACTUALLY MY LAST NAME. IF YOU LOOK ON THE COUNTY MAP, IT'S LENNOX CREEK IS WHAT IT'S NAMED. IT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO 388. THE DEP HAS IT. 
          THEY TAKE SAMPLES FROM IT. IT'S AN ESTUARY THAT YOU CAN'T REPLACE THE HEAD OF ANYBODY WHO HAS THREE OF THEM. MILTON MARINES ON ONE SCHOOL HOUSE, TILLER CREEK AND THIS ONE CREEK. 
          YOU COME IN THERE AND YOU CAN TELL ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT 200 HOUSES, SEPTIC TANKS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT ANYTHING. THAT'S BULL. AND HALF THE LAND IS NOT PRODUCEABLE, I'M SAYING. AND I OWN LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. AND I HAD TO SELL IT BECAUSE I COULDN'T USE IT BECAUSE IT WAS IN WETLANDS. SO BIG BANK TAKES LITTLE BANK, THEY GOT THE MONEY, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO. BUT LIKE THESE PEOPLE BEHIND ME AND NOT JUST ME, THIS IS NOT NEEDED. HERE. THEY HAVE IT AT HODGES. THEY HAVE IT AT FANNIN. SAINT JOE'S GOT LAND TO THE NORTH OF FANNIN. IF THEY WANT TO BUY FROM AN ADD ON. I KNOW THEY BOUGHT IT IN 2013, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S THREE PIECES BROKEN UP SEPARATELY THAT YOU CAN'T HALF OF IT USE WETLANDS, INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND BRIDGES. THE BRIDGES ARE FAILING AT TAYLOR CREEK. MR. CARROLL I TALKED TO HIM. HE SAID THAT'S THE ONE ON THE MAP TO GET DONE. FIRST BRIDGE NEXT. WE CAN'T HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT DUMP TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT FOR FIVE YEARS, TRASHING THE ROADS TO ALLOW 200 MORE CARS TO GO UP TO OUR SCHOOL. THAT'S OVER PACKED ITSELF FOR IT TO HAVE, LIKE THE STRIP IN THE 90S BACKING UP BECAUSE WE WANT TO ADD JUST A LITTLE, JUST A LITTLE HUNDRED HOUSES. IT AIN'T NOTHING UP. SO LOOK AT THAT MARSH THAT BLUE'S HIGHLIGHTED. AND GET A PICTURE OF WHAT THE MARSH IS, BECAUSE ONCE YOU TAKE THAT DOWN, IT AIN'T COMING BACK. OUR BAYS ARE FAILING. COACH CHESTER CAN ATTEST TO IT. I'M SURE YOU GUYS LIKE TO FISH AND HUNT. I'M SAYING THE WATER QUALITY IS CRAP AND ALL OUR BAYS AIN'T GOING TO HELP IT. I'M A SMALL FISH IN A BIG POND. LIKE I SAID, I DEVELOPED LANE AS WELL. NOT A BIG TIME, BUT I'M SAYING I BOUGHT AND SOLD AND BUILT ALSO A FISHING GUIDE. 
          LIKE I SAID, THIS AFFECTS A LOT MORE THAN JUST 100 HOUSES AND IT AIN'T GONNA HURT NOTHING. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, KEITH RANCH, LOOK AT THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING TO COME IN AND OUT OF THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING IN THE VERY BACK OF CLEMENTS DRIVE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ONLY EXIT. IT'S ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO COME DOWN. CLEMENTS DRIVE TO WIREGRASS. WIREGRASS TO NEWMAN. NEWMAN TO 2302 FOR 200 MORE CARS. JUST A LITTLE PINCH. NOT MUCH. AIN'T GONNA HURT NOTHING. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU ALL GUYS 
          [00:20:05]
JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO HURT. BECAUSE THAT CREEK IS GOING TO HURT, AND THE PEOPLE AROUND IT DON'T WANT IT HERE. AND EVERYBODY SHOULD. GOT A LETTER FROM 2302 TO 77 DOWN. EVERYBODY SHOULD GET A LETTER. YEAH. I LIVE TWO BLOCKS FROM MY PARENTS HOUSE, WHICH IS 1115 SANTA ROSA BEHIND THEM. IT'S FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY ELSE PICK UP. THANK YOU. I WILL ACTUALLY PICK UP ON THAT PART. THE EMAILS THAT WERE. NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M SORRY, I'M AMANDA WARREN. I LIVE AT 1340 OAK HARBOR. IT'S DOWN AT THE END OF OLD CEMETERY ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 13TH. THE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT, A LOT OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM WERE FROM PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WORK. THEY CAN'T BE HERE ON A TUESDAY AT 130 AFTER A THREE DAY WEEKEND. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS. SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE EMAILS AND READ EACH AND EVERY ONE AS IF THEY WERE HERE, BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED TO BE. THAT BEING SAID, I'LL PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT RYAN SAID. I DO HAVE A COUPLE PICTURES OF THE ACTUAL LITTLE SLOUGH ON THE BRIDGE. IT IS NOT IN ANY WAY WATERFRONT, BUT IT IS A VERY HEALTHY TRIBUTARY TO OUR BAY. 
          SAINT ANDREWS BAY WATCH IS A BIG CONTRIBUTOR. THEY THEY DO A LOT OF STUFF IN NORTH BAY. 
          NORTH BAY IS ONE OF THE MOST PRISTINE BAYS WE HAVE IN BAY COUNTY. IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED YET. WE HAVE FOUGHT VERY HARD TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. WE FOUGHT OFF THE CONCRETE COMPANY. WE FOUGHT OFF A LOT OF PLACES TO KEEP OUR BAY VERY NICE. SO I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THE ROADS ARE A HUGE ISSUE ALREADY. SO IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN EVEN AT THE 48 HOUSES, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THE ZONING AND THEY WENT AHEAD WITH THAT, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED MOVING FORWARD. THEY'RE ALREADY AN ISSUE. PEOPLE HAVE DIED ON THOSE ROADS. THERE'S NO SHOULDERS, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS. 
          THERE'S A SCHOOL THAT IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THOSE KIDS WOULD GO TO SCHOOL, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SOUTHPORT AT THIS POINT. THERE'S THREE CHURCHES AND TWO CEMETERIES. WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN ALL THAT STUFF? I JUST JUST TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, DO 48 HOUSES BRING IN THAT MUCH PROPERTY TAX THAT WE CAN COMPLETELY REDO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS ROADS AND BRIDGES, THE BRIDGES PEOPLE FISH OFF OF THEM. IT'S WONDERFUL, I LOVE IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT IS SO DANGEROUS. YOU CAN ALMOST TOUCH THEM WITH YOUR REAR VIEW MIRROR WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST THEM. ALL THIS STUFF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NECESSARILY WITH THE UPCOMING PROJECTS, BUT IT IS STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT AND IT'S STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF ALONG THE WAY. SO LET'S SEE LOTS OF OTHER STUFF. OH, IF YOU'RE GOING, OF COURSE, WITH THE CONSERVATION, WHICH EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, I ACTUALLY WOULD ASK THAT. WHAT WHAT ARE THE RULES ON CHANGING. 
          LIKE CAN YOU JUST CHANGE A CONSERVATION. CAN YOU JUST GO IN A STATE PARK AND SAY, I MEAN, IS THERE LIKE A SPECIFIC RULE ON THAT? LIKE, CAN I JUST SAY, CAN YOU CHANGE THIS FROM CONSERVATION TO RESIDENTIAL? THERE'S A PROCESS. YES. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE OF THE REASON THAT IT IS ZONED LIKE SOMEBODY ZONED A CONSERVATION BECAUSE THEY WANTED IT TO NOT BE TOUCHED. AND I JUST CAN'T FATHOM THAT. WE CAN JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'LL CHANGE IT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IF IT'S HALF AG AND HALF CONSERVATION AND THE AGRICULTURAL WHICH IS ON THE NORTHERN END CAN SUSTAIN MOST OF THE HOUSING, THEN WHY WOULD WE ONLY WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST CHANGE THE THAT PART RESIDENTIAL? WHY DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE CONSERVATION AREA TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO LOOK INTO. I'M SURE I'VE FORGOTTEN SO MANY THINGS, BUT YEAH, JUST PLEASE CONSIDER ALL THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWN THERE AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT. AND WE HAVE. OH, AND WE HAVE SO MANY ANIMALS LIKE IT'S JUST, OH, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE, MANDY, IT'S BEEN THREE. AM I OUT? DANG. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LISA THOMPSON. I LIVE ON HIGHWAY 2302 7325. HIGHWAY 2302. I LIVE RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF THAT LITTLE BRIDGE. MY PROPERTY OVERLOOKS ALL OF THAT MARSHLAND. I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2001. ME AND MY FAMILY HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 2001. MY NEIGHBORS ARE THE TAUNTON'S AND MR. AND MISS PENNY, AND THEY'VE LIVED THERE FOR DECADES. MY MAJOR CONCERN IS THE CONSERVATION AREA THAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE. I WOULD INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO MY PROPERTY AND YOU CAN STAND AT THE CORNER OF MY PROPERTY AND YOU CAN LOOK ACROSS AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE. I UNDERSTAND MANDY DID ADDRESS JUST DOING THE 48 UNITS CHANGE IN THE AG. IF SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE, I WOULD REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE MAYBE THAT THAT'S THE ROUTE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY, MAYBE THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT YOU WENT AND PLEASE LEAVE THE CONSERVATION LAND, THE MARSH LAND ALONE. IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, JUST IN 
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THE PAST SIX MONTHS, BECAUSE I'M ON THAT MARSH LAND AND I KNOW THAT D.R. HORTON IS NORTH OF ME ALREADY. THEY ARE ALREADY DRIVING WILDLIFE ACROSS THAT MARSH LAND INTO MY YARD. I'VE NEVER HAD DEER IN MY YARD. THEY'D STAY NORTH ACROSS THE MARSH IN THE LATE AFTERNOON. 
          THEY ARE BEING DRIVEN OUT. THEY'RE AFRAID. AND THEY'RE COMING RIGHT ONTO MY PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK IS AMAZING FOR ME TO SEE THEM, BUT IT'S NOT AMAZING FOR THEM. THEY'RE BEING DRIVEN OUT ALREADY, AND THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO BUILD 48 HOUSES YET, OR 100 AS THEY'VE PETITIONED TO DO. AND THAT'S JUST BEGINNING. AND IT WILL GET CONSIDERABLY WORSE. THIS IS PRISTINE NORTH BAY COUNTY LAND THAT ALL OF THE FAMILIES UP THERE ENJOY. AND IF YOU'RE A BOATER OR A FISHERMAN, I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE IN NORTH BAY BECAUSE IT'S QUIET, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND THE FISHING IS AMAZING. IF YOU START TOUCHING THAT MARSHLAND, ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO DRAIN BY MOTHER NATURE, ACROSS THAT MARSH LAND, DOWN THAT TRIBUTARY AND RIGHT OUT INTO NORTH BAY. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A POSITIVE EFFECT. I WOULD ASK, ARE THE CONSERVATION STUDIES? HAVE THEY BEEN DONE? ARE THEY BEING DONE? WILL THEY BE PUBLICIZED? THE EFFECTS ON BIODIVERSITY, THE EFFECTS ON HABITAT, WILDLIFE? HAVE THEY BEEN DONE? WILL THEY BE PUBLICIZED BEFORE ANOTHER MEETING AND ANOTHER VOTE IS TAKEN? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS AREA. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO READ MY THOUGHTS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING, SOMETIMES THEY GET JUMBLED UP AND YOU ONLY THINK ABOUT IT LATER. MY NAME IS LAUREL FLOYD. I LIVE AT 12 402 PERKINS ROAD IN SOUTHPORT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MY BEHALF AND ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS IN MY COMMUNITY WHO'VE LIVED HERE 30 AND 40 YEARS BUT COULDN'T ATTEND. TODAY. AS VOTERS, THEIR THOUGHTS SHOULD STILL BE KNOWN. 
          I KNOW THAT OUR LEAST PERSUASIVE ARGUMENT IS TO TELL YOU THAT NONE OF US WANT 100 NEW NEIGHBORS OR 200 NEW NEIGHBORS, BUT THIS IS BIGGER THAN THAT. OVER 1600 ACRES HAVE BEEN PURCHASED FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS IN SOUTHPORT THAT I GOT OFF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S SITE. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST BIG MONEY AND DEEP POCKETS, BUT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE FIVE YEAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SOUTHPORT? BUILDING MORE RESIDENTIAL HOMES IS NOT THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN. 
          WE'LL BE DOING SOMETHING THAT WILL ENABLE IT TO HAPPEN. DESTRUCTION OF HABITAT AND SPECIES IS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE UNDONE ONCE YOU'VE KILLED IT. IF IT SOUNDS EXTREME, IT'S NOT OVER. DEVELOPMENT. OVERPOPULATION STARTS A LITTLE AT A TIME, DESTROYING CONSERVATION AND PROTECTED AREAS IS SHORTSIGHTED, IS SHORTSIGHTED, ALBEIT LUCRATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPERS. THE CLEARING FOR LITTLE BURNT MILL CREEK PHASE ONE DESTROYED COUNTLESS ENDANGERED GOPHER TORTOISE DENS AND THE 350 SPECIES THAT USE THEIR DENS. 
          LITTLE BURNT MILL CREEK PHASE ONE IS MY NEIGHBOR. WE SHARE A PROPERTY LINE. THERE WERE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES AFTER THE FACT, BUT BY THEN THE DAMAGE WAS DONE AND CANNOT BE UNDONE. CHANNELS WERE CIRCUMVENTED TO CLEAR THE LAND AT THAT POINT. HAS THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS REZONING PROPOSAL? HAS THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS BEEN INVOLVED? WHAT ABOUT FISH AND WILDLIFE? WHAT ABOUT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION? THERE'S NO REASON TO DESTROY OUR COMMUNITY JUST BECAUSE IT'S THERE. AND JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN. CONSIDERING THE 1600 ACRES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED BY DEVELOPERS, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR INGRESS AND EGRESS THAT ARE NOTED ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE. WHAT IS THE HARM IN LEAVING THIS AREA AS IT IS REZONING THE AREA IS NOT PREPARING FOR THIS FOR THE INEVITABLE. IT IS INVITING IT. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. MY NAME IS SCOTT MCDADE AND I RESIDE AT 801 REESE DRIVE, RIGHT OFF OF WIREGRASS. LUCKILY, I HAVE THE SHORTER STREET. THE ONE WORRY THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY A SMALL BIRD CALLED THE CHUCK WILL'S WIDOW, AND I ENJOY ITS SONG IN THE SPRINGTIME. AND IT IT'S A MIGRATORY BIRD FROM SOUTH CENTRAL AMERICA. AND IT AND THAT'S THIS IS THE BREEDING AREA. AND THIS IS ABOUT THE ONLY AREA THAT I HEAR THAT THE SONG OF THE CHUCK WILL'S WIDOW. SOME PEOPLE CONFUSE IT AS A WHIPPOORWILL. MY CONCERN ALSO IS THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE INGRESS AND EGRESS UP AND DOWN WIREGRASS. IF CLEMENT AND IT WOULD BE THE ACCESS. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE WETLANDS, AND I HAVE ACTUALLY SINCE MICHAEL HURRICANE MICHAEL HAVE OBSERVED THE THE WETLANDS ACTUALLY 
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BECOMING VERY HEALTHY. IT WAS WIPED OUT WITH THE STREAM, THE ADDED VOLUME AFTER THE RAINS. 
          AND I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THIS AREA TOO LONG. AND I HARKEN FROM CALIFORNIA AND I'VE SEEN OUTSTANDING, JUST SICKENING GROWTH IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ESCAPED CALIFORNIA TO COME TO FLORIDA. AND IT'S JUST A MY CONCERN AGAIN, IS THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS TALKING ABOUT FROM 48 HOMES TO 100 HOMES. I'D LIKE TO NAIL THOSE NUMBERS DOWN. AND EARLIER, THERE WAS A MENTION FROM ANOTHER SPEAKER ABOUT THE EIR AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER AND ANY MORE INPUT. SO I KIND OF FEEL THAT WHY CAN THE COUNTY CHANGE THE ZONING BEFORE THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IN ANY SOLID NUMBERS? SO RIGHT NOW I DO OPPOSE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS LARRY LOMAX. I WAS BORN AND RAISED. MY BROTHER SPOKE FIRST AT 1115 IN SANTA ROSA. I NOW RESIDE AT 1203 SEVENTH STREET IN SOUTHPORT. I WAS BORN AND RAISED THERE. A LOT OF CHANGES HAS BEEN HAPPENING. I'M 48 YEARS OLD. I WAS BORN ON THE CREEK THAT YOU HAVE HIGHLIGHTED. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOU GENTLEMEN ON A RIDE, ANY TIME TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS. THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP THIS WITHOUT, FIRST OF ALL, DESTROYING THE WETLANDS AND DESTROYING THAT CREEK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ON. IT'S ALL IT'S ALREADY FILLED IN OVER THE YEARS, JUST FROM THE HOMES THAT HAS BEEN BUILT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR BRIDGES ARE 25 PLUS YEARS OLD, COMING DOWN 2302. THERE IS ONE DUE TO BE REPLACED IN 2026 OR 27. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE DUMP TRUCKS. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SEMIS UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. IT WILL NOT TAKE IT. THOSE BRIDGES WILL FAIL. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE IN AND OUT OF THAT POINT. UNLESS YOU COME OFF THE POWER PLANT HIGHWAY, WHICH IS 2300, AND CUT A ROAD IN THERE, WE DO HAVE NO ESCAPE. DURING MICHAEL, WE HAD NO ESCAPE. MY FATHER, MYSELF AND MY BROTHER, IF IT GOT BAD ENOUGH, WE WERE GOING TO GET OUT BY BOAT. THANK THE LORD WE DIDN'T HAVE TO. BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU CAN BUILD FOUR HOUSES, 40 HOUSES OR 400 HOUSES, AND IT NOT AFFECT THE WILDLIFE AND THE CREEK. 
          THERE'S NO WAY IT'S ALREADY SHALLOW. OVER THE YEARS OF BEING FILLED IN, GET WORSE AND E AND WORSE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SEWER. WE HAVE CITY WATER THERE, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SEWER. 
          AND THE FACT OF PUTTING SEPTIC TANKS IS JUST GOING TO POLLUTE THE BAY MORE AND MORE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OYSTERS IN NORTH BAY. HARDLY. I WAS RAISED EATING THEM MY WHOLE LIFE. YOU GENTLEMEN CAN REMEMBER MR. PENNY THAT HAD DONALD PENNEY'S ON THE CORNER. WE USED TO ENJOY OUR LUNCH UP THERE AND HAVE FRESH SEAFOOD OUT OF NORTH BAY. WE DON'T HARDLY HAVE THAT ANYMORE. JUST BECAUSE THE PURE. MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE, LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID BEFORE ME, BURNT MILL CREEK WITH THE AIRPORT AND CROOKED CREEK FILLED IN, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING. I'M A GUIDE. MY BROTHER'S A GUIDE. WE DEPEND UPON THIS WATER TO MAKE A LIVING. WE ALSO WORRY ABOUT OUR KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL IN SOUTHPORT, AS THEY SAID IS BUSTING AT THE IS BUSTING AT THE KNEES. YEAH, THEY CAN BUST THEM TO BOZEMAN. YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF LAND TO LOOK AT ABOVE 2300 TOWARDS THE SANDHILLS. 
          THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY WETLANDS. YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT IF THEY WANT TO PURCHASE SOME LAND DEAL. HORTON'S GOT PLENTY OF MONEY. AND AS FAR AS WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT BUILDING 100 HOUSES, YOU GENTLEMEN CAN RIDE UP THE 2302 GOING TOWARDS THE DAM. THEY BUILD 100 HOUSES ON HODGES BAYOU IN LESS THAN A YEAR, SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT FROM HER EITHER, BECAUSE SHE KNOWS I'M TELLING THE TRUTH. YOU CAN RIDE UP THERE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. BUT, GENTLEMEN, WE NEED THIS ESTUARY TO STAY. THE WILDLIFE, THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE. NO, WE HAVE NOT ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS. ANYBODY WITH ANY SENSE CAN RIDE IN THERE AND LOOK AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN'T BUILD HOUSES ON THIS. IT WOULD TAKE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF LOADS OF DIRT TO RAISE THIS UP TO CODE. IT'S JUST NOT IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT HAPPENING. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I OFFER MY SERVICE TO ANY OF YOU GENTLEMEN THAT LIKE TO GO LOOK AT ANY OF IT. I HAVE A GUIDE BOAT, I HAVE ATVS, I'VE WALKED THAT A MILLION TIMES SINCE I WAS A BOY. LIKE I SAID, I WOULD OFFER TO ANY OF YOU GENTLEMEN, BUT WE DO NOT NEED THIS AT ALL. PLEASE RETHINK IT. 
          AND LET'S CRUNCH SOME NUMBERS, AND LET'S REALLY SEE IF IT'S WORTH DESTROYING THIS 62 ACRES FOR A DOLLAR. I DON'T THINK IT IS. YOU DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD DAY. I'VE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN. MY NAME IS JOHNNY YOUNG. I LIVE AT 81 FOR RESEARCH. I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MARSH GRASS, SO ALL THE WILDLIFE DOES PASS THROUGH MY PROPERTY. IT'S LIKE A LITTLE CUT THROUGH RIGHT THERE. I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE'S GOPHER TURTLES OUT THERE. I GOT PICTURES OF THEM. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EPA STUDY DONE ON THE IMPACTS DONE WITH THE GOPHER TURTLES OUT THERE AND THE NATURAL WATERSHEDS THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DESTROY. AND SHE OBVIOUSLY 
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KNOWS HOW MANY HOUSES ARE OUT THERE AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING. WHY WASN'T THAT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC? BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS ONLY ZONED FOR 48. SHE CLEARLY WALKED UP HERE AND SAID 100. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON WITH THIS MEETING, MAYBE 30 MORE DAYS BEFORE Y'ALL ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION ON THIS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET OUR CARDS IN A ROW, ACTUALLY HAVE THE STUDIES DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE FOR 40 YEARS. THERE'S NO SEWAGE OUT THERE. YOU CAME THROUGH THERE, PUT WATER IN THERE AND SAID, WITHIN TEN YEARS YOU GET OUR WATER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEWER. WE DON'T HAVE IT. LET'S SEE. SORRY, JUST A LITTLE NERVOUS. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MARY MARY HARDY, 505 NEWMAN POINT ROAD. FIRST OF ALL, DR. 
          HORTON PUT IN 641 HOMES. THERE'S HODGES BAYOU, NEWMAN BAYOU, FANNING BAYOU, 641 HOMES. 
          OKAY, IT WAS JUST SPRUNG ON US. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. AND IT WAS LIKE, HERE IT IS. 
          AND NOW THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT MORE IN AND AND ALL OF THE LAND THAT THEM 641 HOMES ON WERE PREDOMINANTLY CONSERVATION LAND. AND IT'S GONE. IT CAN'T BE TAKEN BACK. THE THE MARINE LIFE, THE THE WILDLIFE IS ATROCIOUS. IT'S JUST REALLY ATROCIOUS. AND I BEG YOU ALL, PLEASE DON'T LET THEM DO THIS. PLEASE DON'T LET THEM RUIN THE ENVIRONMENT THIS EARTH IS IS BEING KILLED DAY BY DAY, YOU KNOW, AND AND AND IT'S JUST SADDENS MY HEART. SO FOR 48 MORE HOMES, THEY'RE GOING TO KILL THE MARINE LIFE, THE WILDLIFE. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT FAIR. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M. 
          THEY GOT WAY MORE MONEY THAN I DO WOULD EVER THINK OF HAVING. SO. BUT I BEG YOU ALL, PLEASE DON'T LET THEM DO THIS AND THAT. THE, THE LAND WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT THE 48 HOMES, IT'S LANDLOCKED. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO IN OR OUT. THEY HAVE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, THEY HAVE TO COME AROUND, GO TO WIREGRASS, COME DOWN NEWMAN POINT. LA LA LA LA LA. WELL, WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING IN 641 HOUSES ON THE DONALD PENNY BRIDGE THAT IS ALREADY FAILING, BEEN THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS. THEY ARE. HORTON WAS RUNNING DUMP TRUCKS AND BIG TRUCKS OVER AND GOING DOWN THROUGH A ROAD THAT THEY HAD MADE IN RIGHT THERE OFF OF NEWMAN TO ACCESS THAT WHERE THEY WERE PUTTING IN THEIR NEW HOMES. BUT THEY DIDN'T FIX THE BRIDGE. THEY LEFT IT THERE FOR US. YOU KNOWNO WHAT? IF MY YOUNGIN WAS DRIVING ACROSS THAT BRIDGE AND IT COLLAPSED? D.R. HORTON DIDN'T CARE. WELL, I CARE AND I CARE ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S CHILDREN. 
          THAT HAS TO DRIVE ACROSS THAT BRIDGE. PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT LET THEM RUIN THEM. 
          WETLANDS. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS JOANNE STRAUSS. I LIVE AT 1150 FOURTH CIRCLE. AS YOU CAN TELL, I DON'T SOUND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE. I CAME FROM RACINE, WISCONSIN. I MADE THE HUGE TRIP HERE WITH THREE DOGS, THREE GOATS AND A CAT. IT TOOK ME OVER TWO DAYS TO GET HERE. WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE GOT A QUARTER ACRE OF LAND WITH OUR DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME. WE COULDN'T RETIRE IN WISCONSIN BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES WERE TOO HIGH, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW. I WALK THE YOU EVERY DAY. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THAT BRIDGE IS AWFUL AND I HEAR STORIES OF PEOPLE AROUND THE U. THAT THEY TELL ME ABOUT ALL THE WILDLIFE I'VE SEEN, SOME WILDLIFE. I'VE EVEN SEEN EAGLES FLYING OVER MY PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE NATURAL LANDS TAKEN OUT BY HOUSING. 
          FURTHERMORE, BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE HERE AND I HAD NEVER HEARD OF D.R. HORTON HOMES, I LOOKED UP REVIEWS D.R. HORTON HOMES IN AREAS LIKE BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA ARE MIXED, BUT OFTEN HIGHLIGHT CONCERNS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION QUALITY. FAST PACED BUILDING LEADING TO CORNER CUTTING AND WHOLESALE WARRANTY SLASH CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUES, WITH MANY RESIDENTS REPORTING PROBLEMS LIKE FAULTY APPLIANCES, LEAKS, POOR FINISHES, FRAYING CARPET, LOOSE TRIM AND ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE OR HVAC. WHILE SOME BUYERS FIND GOOD VALUE AND FRIENDLY SALES STAFF, INITIALLY, 
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COMMON COMPLAINTS MENTION RUSHED CLOSINGS, PRESSURE TACTICS AND A FEELING THAT HOMES ARE BUILT TO MINIMUM CODE, PROMPTING SOME TO RECOMMEND BUYING EXISTING HOMES OR USING INDEPENDENT INSPECTORS. TO ME, THIS JUST LOOKS LIKE ANYTHING THAT I HAD SEEN HAPPENING IN RACINE, WISCONSIN, WHERE THEY WERE BUILDING PROPERTIES, SELLING THEM FOR TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY, AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO TAKE OUT ALL THESE THIS BEAUTIFUL WILDLIFE AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOEY GRUBS. I'M AT 2101 WEST HIGHWAY 390. I AM A VERY NEW RESIDENT TO BAY COUNTY. JUST REGISTERED TODAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT. AND I WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU ALL. I'M FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY, FLORIDA. MONTICELLO. BUT BEFORE I TELL YOU MY STORY, SOMETHING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME TODAY IS THEY SENT TWO PEOPLE HERE FROM THIS HOME BUILDER. I DON'T THINK THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO'S GOING TO STAND UP AND SUPPORT THEM. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO GO WITH THE NUMBERS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, NOT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO PROMISE YOU MORE TAXES. OKAY. SO THE STORY I WANT TO TELL YOU IS THIS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, IT'S THE LAST COUNTY IN FLORIDA WITH NO TRAFFIC LIGHT. AND THEY LOVE IT LIKE THAT. I LOVED IT LIKE THAT WHEN I WAS THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO GET A TRAFFIC LIGHT BECAUSE FOLKS LIKE THIS ARE DEMANDING THAT THEY PUT A TRUCK STOP ON AN INTERSTATE THAT ALREADY HAS SEVEN GAS STATIONS. OKAY, IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. SO WHAT I KNOW IS THIS, AND I WAS INVOLVED IN POLITICS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY FOR YEARS. THERE'S TWO THINGS ABOUT POLITICS RIGHT AND WRONG. THE THING THAT'S MISSING IS CONVICTION. THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING. NOW, I'M NOT BLAMING YOU GUYS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW YOU. BUT IN POLITICS TODAY, CONVICTION IS MISSING. THESE FOLKS DON'T WANT NO MORE HOUSES IN THAT AREA. IT REALLY CAN'T STAND TO HAVE ANY MORE HOUSES IN THERE. ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT ON A ROAD WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DIED. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS GARY MCQUAIG. I HAVE BEEN SWORN. I AM OPPOSED TO THE. YOUR ADDRESS. WHAT? YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. OH, THANKS. 7103 ESCAMBIA AVENUE, SOUTHPORT, FLORIDA. THANK YOU. I AM OPPOSED TO THE LAND USE CHANGE FOR THE 62 ACRE PARCEL NORTH OF NEWMAN POINT ROAD, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THIS 62 ACRE TRACT CONTAINS MANY ACRES THAT ARE WETLANDS AND SALT MARSHES, OFFENDING BAYOU. ALL DRAINAGE FROM THIS PARCEL FLOWS INTO THE SALT MARSHES, WHICH CONTAINS MANY BIODIVERSE ECOSYSTEMS THAT ARE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TO CHANGES IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT, THEREFORE MAKING THIS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA. THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE RECENTLY BUILT HUNDREDS OF HOMES AROUND HODGES BAYOU, JUST WEST OF DEER POINT LAKE. HERE, NEW HOMES WERE BUILT JUST A COUPLE OF METERS APART WITHOUT ANY FRONT OR BACK YARD. UNLESS YOU CONSIDER 100FT■!S A YARD. AN AERIAL VIEW OF HODGES BAYOU PLANTATION IS VERY TELLING WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER NEARBY DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS THOSE ALONG KINGWOOD ROAD IN KIRKLAND MANOR. ADDITIONALLY, IN HODGES BAYOU PLANTATION, THERE ARE AT LEAST 185 UNDEVELOPED LOTS WITH UTILITIES. ALL THESE LOTS, ALL THESE VACANT LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVOID OF TREES AND OTHER VEGETATION. LAND DEVELOPERS WITH DOLLAR SIGNS IN THEIR EYES ARE ALWAYS IN A HURRY, IN A HURRY TO DESTROY THE TREES AND OTHER KINDS OF VEGETATION, IN A HURRY TO INSTALL UTILITIES, IN A HURRY TO BUILD AND SELL HOMES. 
          THERE IS NO TIME WITH REGARD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT OR ECOSYSTEM. THEY DESTROY. WITH AT LEAST 185 VACANT LOTS IN HODGES BAYOU PLANTATION, THERE SHOULD BE NO RUSH TO DEVELOP THIS PARCEL NORTH TO NEWMAN POINT ROAD. IN ADDITION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS, ADDING 
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HUNDREDS OF HOMES OR HUNDRED HERE WILL ADD TRAFFIC CONGESTION UNDER ONE ROAD IN TO AND OUT OF THIS AREA. COUNTY ROAD 2302. COUNTY ROAD 2302 RUNS BESIDE SOUTHPORT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. FOR PARENTS DROPPING OFF AND PICKING UP THEIR CHILDREN, ADDING TRAFFIC CONGESTION WILL MAKE THIS PROBLEMATIC AND ALSO CREATE A SAFETY CONCERN. ON TOP OF THIS, AS SOMEONE WHOSE FAMILY HAS LIVED AROUND FANNIN BAYOU FOR THE PAST 105 YEARS, I CAN ASSURE YOU THOSE LIVING ALONG NEWMAN POINT ROAD ALONG COUNTY ROAD 2302 AND IN THE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY OF SOUTHPORT, DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE PARCEL SACRIFICED FOR ANOTHER HODGES BAYOU PLANTATION. THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M WINSTON CHESTER, 6726 TOEPFER BOULEVARD, SOUTHPORT WAS THE ONE TIME A DIRT ROAD, BUT NOW IT'S PAVED. I'M GLAD I THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. 
          FIRST QUESTION. WHY ARE WE HERE? I MEAN, WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE. OKAY? WE. YOU'VE HEARD THE PEOPLE SPEAK. WE'RE FEELING IN A CONSERVATION AREA. OKAY? IT'S. I JUST CAN'T GET OVER US EVEN HAVING TO TALK ABOUT IT. CONSERVATION AREA. THESE AREAS HERE ARE SO IMPORTANT. I TEACH OUTDOOR EDUCATION. I TAUGHT IT FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. IN FACT, ONE ENGINEERS, ONE OF MY FORMER STUDENTS AND THEN THE CHIEF ENGINEER. SHE'S I'VE HAD HER STUDENTS IN MY CLASS. THEY'RE THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB TODAY. I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT BAD PEOPLE. BUT THESE DEVELOPERS, THEY DON'T GIVE A RAT'S BEHIND ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL LIKE. WE ASKING YOU TO. 
          I KNOW EACH ONE OF YOU ALL APPOINTED BY A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. YOU'RE NOT ELECTED, BUT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE ELECTED, AND THEY'RE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, THESE PEOPLE HERE, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM THE PEOPLE. AND WE'VE JUST HAD, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE REPRESENTED PEOPLE. THERE WAS A QUICK NOTE DOWN IN THE GULF COUNTY IN THIS FALL THAT HAD A REAL TIGHT COUNTY COMMISSION RACE. ONE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAD A SIGN, PRINTED THREE WORDS, TAP THE BRAKES TO SLOW THE GROWTH HE PUT ON TOP OF HIS SIGN. HE WAS ELECTED BY A LANDSLIDE. WE'VE GOT TO START THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES. IT'S TIME TO TAP THE BRAKES. WE CAN'T KEEP GIVING ANY OF THESE, THESE PEOPLE. WE'VE GOT TO DRAW THE LINE. WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE. AND ONE HAD A GREAT IDEA. THESE ARE WETLANDS. THE SAND HILLS ARE DRY. DEVELOP UP THERE. OKAY. AND THIS COMPANY, THEY YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA. THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION. AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL BAD ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THEM BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE WORK FOR THEM, BUT THEY'RE JUST HAVING TO THEY'RE MAKING A LIVING. THESE WETLANDS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US. WHAT I ENVISION AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, WE WANT TO SEE A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT. 
          NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT ON A SATURDAY MORNING, LITTLE GIRL GETS UP IN THE FOURTH GRADE AND HER LITTLE BROTHER IS IN THIRD GRADE AND JUMP ON THE BICYCLES. THEY RIDE DOWN TO THE WETLANDS AND THE CONSERVATION AREA, AND THEY SEE A LITTLE KINGSNAKE THERE. AND THEN THEY SEE A LITTLE BOX TURTLE HERE, AND THEY SEE A HAWK FLY IN. THEY JUMP ON THE BICYCLE AND DRIVE BACK AND OUT OF BREATH. RUN, MAMA, DADDY! GUESS WHAT WE JUST SAW DOWN THERE? THE CONSERVATION AREA AND THEY'LL TELL ABOUT ALL EXCITED. IF WE GO BY WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING, THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN ANYMORE. FOLKS. WE'VE GOT TO STAND UP. WE'VE GOT TO MAN UP. WE'VE GOT TO DRAW THE LINE. I AM I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE. THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN HERE FOR ONE THING. OKAY. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT ONE THING IS? YOU SEE THIS RIGHT HERE? THAT'S ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. THEY'RE GOING TO STAY IN A NICE FANCY HOMES UP THERE IN DALLAS AND BIRMINGHAM AND ATLANTA AND THESE GATED COMMUNITIES TO STORE HOUSES. AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THEY DON'T GIVE A RIP ABOUT WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO CARE ABOUT. I DO AND WE WANT YOU TO THREE WORDS FOR THE PEOPLE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVELOPING IT. SHAME ON YOU. MY NAME IS TRAVIS GAUTREAUX. I RESIDE AT 627 NEWMAN POINT ROAD IN SOUTHPORT, FLORIDA. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF POINTS. MR. HONEYCUTT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECOGNIZE ME OR NOT, BUT I DO ALL YOUR BRACKETS AND STUFF ON ALL YOUR FANCY HOUSES. IT IS. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. 
          THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES. BUT ANYWAY. WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE AT WILD HERON, YOU KNOW, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT HERE AT WILD HERON. THEY ARE STILL 
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PRESERVING ALL OF THE AREA, ALL OF THE MARSH AREAS HERE. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. THEY JUST WANT TO DEVELOP THE HOUSES AND GET IT DONE WITH CAN I MAY I BORROW YOUR MOUSE? IF YOU DIRECT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IN. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY OUT OF THAT AREA. THE LADY RIGHT BEHIND ME LIVES RIGHT ON THAT CORNER. AND SHE CAN CONTEST THAT. THERE ARE LITTLE KIDS OUT THERE PLAYING DAY AND NIGHT, PLAYING BASKETBALL, RIDING THEIR BIKES. AND IF YOU ADD 100, 100 MORE HOUSES TO THAT AREA, I MEAN, THERE AIN'T GOING TO HAVE NO PLACE TO PLAY. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THEY PLAY. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S THEIR AREA. FURTHER ON. FURTHER ON DOWN IS WHERE MY MOTHER LIVES. ALL RIGHT. SINCE THEY HAVE BUILT ALL THIS FANNING BAYOU STUFF OVER HERE HAS PUSHED ALL OF THE WILDLIFE OUT OF THE AREA. SHE NOW HAS SINCE THEN. SHE NOW HAS FOUR BALD EAGLES THAT LIVE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HER, OF HER PROPERTY. SHE USED TO HAVE TWO DEER THAT COME AROUND. NOW SHE'S GOT EIGHT. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU CLOSE THIS OUT? EVERY TIME YOU COME DOWN THAT NEWMAN POINT ROAD TO 13TH STREET MOST OF THE TIME, AND YOU COULD PROBABLY CONTEST TO IT, BUT YOU SEE DEER OUT THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD ALL THE TIME. YOU PUT ALL THAT OUT THERE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ALL THAT? THEY'RE GOING TO BE GONE. AND SHE ALSO THE YOUNG LADY ALSO MENTIONED THAT ALL OF THE HOUSES ARE QUARTER ACRE IN THE AREA. I DON'T SEE A QUARTER ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON NEWMAN POINT OR WIREGRASS OR ANYTHING. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING EVERYTHING QUARTER ACRES. 
          THERE'S NOTHING THERE. SO I MEAN, I, I'M STRONGLY AGAINST THIS AND I HOPE YOU ARE TOO. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CHARITY SHANNON. I RESIDE AT 723 NEWMAN POINT. I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF NEWMAN POINT AND WIREGRASS. LIKE HE SAID ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WE HAVE TONS OF CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE ALWAYS PLAYING IN THE ROAD. THEY'RE PLAYING ON THE CORNERS, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO. WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE SCHOOLS ARE AT THEIR CAPACITY. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST BUSTING AND HAVING MORE CHILDREN COME IN, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT. WE'D LOVE OUR KIDS, BUT HAVING MORE KIDS COME IN, THE SCHOOLS CAN'T HANDLE IT. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TEACHERS NOW. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH BUS DRIVERS AS THERE IS. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THE SCHOOL BUSSES FOR THESE KIDS. 
          SO THAT'S GOT TO BE TAKEN INTO EFFECT FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN DEVELOP A LAND FOR MORE CHILDREN TO COME IN. WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM FOR THEM. SO THAT MEANS BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL OR ADDING ON TO A SCHOOL, WHATEVER IT MAY TAKE. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS IN SOUTHPORT, AND I'VE NEVER ONCE HAD A BEAR IN MY BACKYARD. THIS YEAR I HAD TO BEAR IN MY BACKYARD. I HAVE SMALL DOGS. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE WILDLIFE, I DON'T WANT A BEAR IN MY BACKYARD. I DON'T MIND THE DEER COMING IN MY FRONT YARD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BEAR MY BACKYARD AND THEY'RE JUST BEING PUSHED OUT. WE JUST WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BEAR IN OUR BACKYARDS, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO EFFECT IS WE CAN'T IT'S SAFETY CONCERNS. ON OUR ROAD. WIREGRASS WAS JUST PAVED, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS PAVED FOR A REASON BECAUSE OF CONSERVATION, I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR CLEAN, HEALTHY BAYS. THEY SAID THAT THERE'S A SIGN ON THE ROAD STATING WHY THEY PUT THAT THERE, AND IT SAYS THAT IT'S FOR SEDIMENT REASONS AND CLEAN BAYS. WELL, WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING IN 48 TO 100 NEW HOMES, WHERE'S THAT CLEAN WATER GOING TO BE AT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE AND AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CLEAN WATER. LET'S FACE IT. I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF RUNOFF. AND RIGHT NOW I GET FLOODED BECAUSE I HAVE TWO PONDS IN MY BACKYARD. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT WHEN YOU BUILD, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY ALL THOSE TREES AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THAT WATER TO GO. I MEAN, AFTER HURRICANE MICHAEL, WE ALL SEEN AFTER THE TREE TREES WERE GONE. I MEAN, WATER JUST WAS EVERYWHERE. WE JUST CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. AND SO IT'S GOING TO JUST CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THE BAYS, WITH EVERYTHING, I MEAN, IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE DECIDE TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE AND MORE HOUSING. IT'S NOT FAIR TO US WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING. SO JUST CONSIDER THE CHILDREN. THANK YOU. I'M MERCEDES FRANKLIN AND I LIVE AT 7001 DYADIC DRIVE OFF OF 13TH STREET IN SOUTHPORT. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AND ALL THE PLANS, YOU NEVER SEE WHAT THE ANIMAL 
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CORRIDOR, THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND THEY'RE GETTING CUT OFF. ONE HERE, ONE THERE AND NOW THIS UP HERE, WHICH WOULD BE, I GUESS THE NORTH OR WEST ANYWAY, THE TOP WILL BE CUT OFF AND D.R. HORTON CUT OFF THE ANOTHER WILDLIFE CORRIDOR WHERE THE THEIR HOUSES WENT DOWN TO THE WATER. SO THERE'S WILDLIFE CORRIDORS THAT ARE GETTING CUT OFF AND NOBODY'S EVEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM. THEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SOUTHPORT, THEY LIKE THE LAND AROUND THEM. THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND SEE THEIR NEIGHBOR. THEY LEAVE THE TREES AROUND THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY WANT POLE BARNS BECAUSE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, WHETHER THEIR TRADES FOLKS OR THEY HAVE BOATS AND THEY NEED A PLACE TO PUT THEM AND THEY NEED THAT LAND, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO RENT SOMEPLACE TO PUT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR STUFF. THEY HAVE STUFF. AND I THINK THERE'S A CULTURE THERE. AND COACH EVEN HAS A ROOMS AT MOSLEY HIGH AND TEACHES HOW TO FISH AND HUNT AND LIVE IN A WILD AREA BECAUSE KIDS WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THAT. 
          THEY ENJOY THAT THEY WERE RAISED WITH IT. AND SOMEPLACE IN BAY COUNTY, WE NEED TO KEEP THIS. AND THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY AREA LEFT. SO YOU HAVE TO WANT TO HAVE SPACE FOR PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT SPACE. AND EVERYBODY IN SOUTHPORT WANTS SPACE. THAT'S WHY THEY MOVED THERE. THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE CLOSER TOGETHER, LIVE IN LYNN HAVEN OR OTHER AREAS. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU CAN'T JUST DECIDE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT TO LIVE IN A SMALL SQUARE HOUSE WITH FIVE FEET AROUND IT. AND I THINK THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TO ALLOW US TO LIVE THE WAY WE WANT TO LIVE, AND WE DON'T. WE WANT THE WATERS. WE WANT THE ESTUARIES. WE WANT ALL THAT NATURE AROUND US. WE WANT THE DEER IN OUR YARDS, THE EAGLES IN THE NESTS. THAT'S THE WAY WE WANT TO LIVE. AND THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THERE. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE IT INTO THE COOKIE CUTTER HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, ESPECIALLY SINCE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT SAND HILLS AND THERE'S NO WATER ISSUES UP THERE. SO THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS MEGAN MILLER. I AM MERCEDES NEIGHBOR AT 7005 TO CASSIA DRIVE. I DIDN'T COME HERE PREPARED TO SPEAK. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY OTHER THAN I JUST DO WANT TO STATE THAT I AM OPPOSED TO THIS FOR ALL THE REALLY GOOD REASONS GIVEN BY EVERYONE HERE. AND I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT AREN'T WILLING TO STAND UP AND SAY SOMETHING TO THIS PODIUM. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE YOUR HAND. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING ISSUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MICHAEL CUNNINGHAM. I LIVE AT 736 NEWMAN POINT ROAD. I JUST ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT IF Y'ALL START BRINGING IN ALL THESE LOADS OF DIRT TO BUILD ALL THESE HOUSES FOR ONE, MY YARD ALREADY GETS FLOODED WHEN I. WHEN I GO OUT, WHEN I GO OUTSIDE TO MY YARD, WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S A LAKE. OKAY. SO IF Y'ALL GO START BUILDING ALL THESE NEW HOUSES AND EVERYTHING, YOU'RE GOING TO FLOOD MY HOUSE OUT. OKAY, IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS AND Y'ALL PUSHING ALL THIS WATER ON US, BUT WE THEY DON'T EVEN OFFER HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE FOR MOBILE HOMES IN FLORIDA. NO MORE. Y'ALL KNOW THAT. OKAY? MY SISTER LIVES IN A MOBILE HOME THAT'S OVER 30 YEARS OLD, AND MY FATHER PASSED AWAY OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. AND BECAUSE IT WAS IN HIS NAME, SHE CAN NOW NOT GET HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE ON IT. SO IF Y'ALL BUILD THESE HOUSES, IT'S GOING TO FLOOD US OUT OF HERE. NOT JUST THE ANIMALS, BUT US. IT'S GOING TO FLOOD US OUT. THANK Y'ALL. HAVE A NICE DAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE TO SPEAK? NO. 
          OKAY. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO APPLICANT REBUTTAL. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO APPROACH AND ADDRESS ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU'VE HEARD. KIM. JUST WANT TO REITERATE SOME THINGS. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M A SACRIFICIAL LAMB. I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 40 YEARS, BUILT MY CAREER HERE. I AM A TYPICALLY A LAND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER, BUT, YOU 
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KNOW, WITH RESPONSIBLE ENGINEERING, RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, RESPONSIBLE PERMITTING PROCESSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE WITH THE FEDERAL AND STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS. THE APPLICANT FEELS LIKE WE CAN, YOU KNOW. COME TO A HAPPY MEDIUM, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL ALREADY. AND BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY STUDIES, WE DID DISCLOSE IN THE APPLICATION HOW MANY UNITS WE FEASIBLY THINK THAT WOULD WORK THERE. SO WE DID NOT HIDE THAT WE WE HAVE DONE ENOUGH PRELIMINARY SKETCHES TO FIGURE OUT WITH A QUARTER ACRE LOT, WE CAN DO AROUND 100, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FURTHER INTO ENGINEERING. AND, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THIS PROCESS IS COMPLETED. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST PART OF IT. 
          SO WITH THAT AND WE WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. THIS IS NOT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. 
          IT'S A CONSERVATION HABITAT, LAND USE AND ZONING CATEGORY, WHICH STILL ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO WITH THAT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE DEVELOP ON THAT ZONING, WE'RE STILL GOING TO PUT IN HOUSING AND TO THE APPLICANT'S DEFENSE, A LOT OF THESE HOMES ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY WERE NOT THE LAND DEVELOPER. THEY WERE THE HOME BUILDER. THEY BOUGHT THESE LOTS FROM A DEVELOPER. THEY DID NOT GO IN AND DEVELOP, AND THEY DIDN'T DO THE LAND PLAN. THEY WERE NOT PART OF THAT. SO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY THEY DO OWN, THEY'VE OWNED IT FOR 13 YEARS. SO THEY WILL BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER PROCESS, THE WHOLE WAY. THEY WON'T BE THE THIRD PARTY. THEY DON'T GO IN THERE AND BUY THE LOTS. I MEAN, JUST THE BIG DEVELOPER IN THE COUNTY THAT WE KNOW THEY DO ALL THEIR OWN SELF DEVELOPMENT. THEY SELL TO MULTIPLE BUILDERS. 
          WE'RE JUST ONE OF THOSE BUILDERS THAT BUY FROM THEM JUST LIKE THIS. HODGES BAYOUS DEVELOPER. THEY ARE THE HOME BUILDER, SO I JUST WANT TO STATE THE OBVIOUS. LET'S SEE. 
          AND WITH THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS JOBS. WE BRING JOBS. WE BRING THESE BIG COMPANIES IN. THEY'RE BRINGING IN 200, 300 JOBS ALL OVER THE COUNTY. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED HOUSING REGARDLESS. I MEAN, EVERYBODY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE OUT THE BEACH. I MEAN, THIS IS THE AREA OF GROWTH, YOU KNOW, UP NORTH, YOU CAN'T GO SOUTH. YOU CAN'T REALLY GO EAST BECAUSE OF TYNDALL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PICKING ON SOUTHPORT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S JUST IT IS AN AREA THAT'S DESIRABLE. I MEAN AT THIS POINT. SO LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE. AND WE DON'T INTEND TO TOUCH THE MARSHLAND OKAY. OUR LAND PLAN WILL BE WAY AWAY FROM THE MARSHLAND. AND THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN PLACE WITH THE STATE AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THE WATER QUALITY IS ADHERED TO. AND THEY EVEN UPPED THE ANTE ON THE REGULATIONS. YOU KNOW, THE END OF DECEMBER THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE AVENUES TO TREAT THE STORMWATER, YOU KNOW, HOLD BACK THE STORMWATER. AND THIS FLOWS INTO BAYOU DIRECTLY. SO IT WON'T IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE FLOWING INTO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CAUSE HAVOC ON THEM. THIS FLOWS DIRECTLY INTO THE THE BAY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE BACKING UP WATER TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT AG1 I MEAN, IT DOES ALLOW FOR CIVIC CULTURE. 
          IT ALLOWS FOR AGRICULTURE, IT ALLOWS FOR MULTIPLE USES THAT CONSISTENTLY. IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY COME IN THERE AND SILVICULTURE, THAT WHOLE LAND, IT WOULD AGGRAVATE THE SOIL, AGGRAVATE THE TREES, ALL THE TREES WOULD BE GONE ON A CONTINUAL BASIS. WHEREAS WHEN YOU DEVELOP RESPONSIBLY WITH THE HOUSING, IT'S ONE TIME IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DISTURBED EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, TAKING DOWN ALL THE TREES. SO WHAT'S ALLOWED THERE RIGHT NOW IN ZONING IS MORE DETRIMENTAL TO RUNOFF EROSION, STORMWATER CONTROLS AND EVEN THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL RULES ALLOW FOR A LOT OF EXEMPTIONS FOR SILVICULTURE. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE ALLOWABLE USES NOW IN AG ARE GOING TO BE WAY WORSE IF 
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SOMEBODY WERE TO COME IN THERE IN SILVICULTURE, THE WHOLE LAND, AND JUST DESTROY ALL THE TREES. 
          SO ANYWAY, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE. SO, KIM, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY THAT THE THE RESIDENTS WERE YOU SAID D.R. 
          HORTON DIDN'T DEVELOP THAT. THEY JUST WERE THE THE THE BUILDER. YEAH. HODGES BAYOU I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE LAND DEVELOPERS IN OUR COUNTY. THEY DID NOT GO IN THERE AND DEVELOP. THEY DIDN'T PLAN THE SUBDIVISION. THEY DID NOT PLAN IT OUT. THEY BOUGHT THOSE LOTS DIRECTLY FROM THAT DEVELOPER AFTER THE FACT. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND THEN ACTION I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE HERE IF I MAY. SO THERE'S AND WE'VE GOT THREE CONSERVATION ZONES IN BAY COUNTY. WE'VE GOT CONSERVATION PRESERVATION WHICH IS WHAT YOU'D EXPECT TO BE SOME PROPERTY LEFT PRISTINE. WE'VE GOT CONSERVATION RECREATION, WHICH IS A CONSERVATION AREA THAT HAS BALL FIELDS AND SOCCER FIELDS AND SO FORTH. AND THEN WE'VE GOT CONSERVATION HABITATION, WHICH DOES ALLOW RESIDENTIAL. SO WHEN SOME OF YOU ARE REFERENCING CONSERVATION, IT'S THERE'S WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ONES. AND THE PRISTINE ONE IS A CONSERVATION PRESERVATION ONE. SO THIS ONE ISN'T THAT PROPERTY. 
          SO IS THAT CORRECT, WAYNE. CORRECT. THE CURRENT CONSERVATION ZONING ON THIS PARCEL IS CONSERVATION HABITATION. OKAY. JUST NOT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT. THANK YOU. THIS IS WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT IN 2013 WAYNE FROM WAS IT CHASE BANK. IT WAS ON AS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED NOW RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. WE WE RESEARCHED OUR RECORDS GOING BACK AS FAR AS WE COULD DIGITALLY, WHICH WAS 2000. AND THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS WERE THE SAME IN 2000 AS THEY ARE NOW. OKAY. SO THEY BOUGHT IT UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY COULD BUILD 48 HOMES AS IT SITS BACK IN 2013. CORRECT? OKAY. SO SO ANOTHER THING, WAYNE, THE THE WETLANDS UP THERE, THE BUFFER, THE WETLANDS HAVE TO REMAIN IN THE BUFFER IS 30FT STILL IS THAT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ENHANCED BUFFER. THERE IS THERE. 
          THERE'S NO ENHANCED BUFFER. THE THE LOCAL THE LOCAL REQUIREMENT IS A 30 FOOT BUFFER FROM, FROM ANY AREAS DESIGNATED AS WETLANDS. RIGHT. THAT'S. THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. TO THE NORTHERN CHUNK. THAT'S CORRECT. TO THE SOUTHERN CHUNK TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION. 
          THERE'S OTHER ACCESS. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY. YEAH, ONE WAY OUT TO GO. YEAH, YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. BUT YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT'S ON YOUR MIND RIGHT NOW OKAY. QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS SOMETHING I USUALLY DON'T DO. BUT I'VE HEARD THE CONSTITUENTS AND EVERYBODY THAT LIVES UP THERE. FOR MY PART, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS. IT MAY COMPORT WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT I THINK THESE FOLKS ARE ENTITLED TO WHAT THEY'RE USED TO, WHAT THEY BOUGHT INTO, AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN LIVING ALL THESE YEARS. SO MY MOTION IS TO NOT FORWARD THIS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION, FOR THEIR APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND THAT MOTION A SECOND, MR. CHRISTIE. YES, MA'AM. MR. DAFFERN YES, MA'AM, MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. HONEYCUTT. YES, MA'AM. MR. HARMON. YES, MA'AM. WHAT I SAID IN THE BEGINNING. THE NEXT ONE IS THE NEXT ONE RELEVANT? DOES IT NOW? WE STILL PROCEED, COUNSEL. YES, YES. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. COMMISSIONER, CONDUCT A QUASI JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE SEE A20250260 TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 62.3 ACRES FROM AG1 GENERAL AGRICULTURE AND CH CS VH CONSERVATION HABITATION TO R-2 SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS. THE PROPERTY IS 
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GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF CLEMENT DRIVE AND CUCCINELLI DRIVE, AND NORTH OF NEWMAN POINT ROAD IN THE SOUTHPORT AREA. ANY EX-PARTE. COMMUNICATION. NO, SIR. NONE. 
          NONE. MOVE NOW TO STAFF PRESENTATION. WAYNE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 62 ACRES FROM AG ONE GENERAL AGRICULTURE AND CSV CONSERVATION HABITATION TO THE R-2 SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX DWELLINGS PROPERTIES LOCATED EAST OF CLEMENT DRIVE AND NORTH OF NEWMAN POINT ROAD IN THE SOUTHPORT AREA. AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS IN WHAT REPRESENTS AN ENCLAVE OF AG ONE AND CSV LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY SURROUNDED BY THE R-2 ZONING DESIGNATIONS. ALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, THE WEST, THE EAST AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BOUNDARIES HAVE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DESIGNATIONS. AGAIN, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DENSITY WITHIN THE SUBURBAN SERVICE AREA IS FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. CONTINGENT UPON THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE, THE CURRENT MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR THE AGRICULTURAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS ONE DWELLING UNIT PER TEN ACRES AND TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN THE CONSERVATION HABITATION PORTION, STAFF FEELS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND THEREFORE RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION FIND THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE. AGAIN, REITERATE THAT WE DID RECEIVE THE ALL THE EMAILS WHICH HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU AS WELL HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF THIS TIME. NO, NO. MOVE NOW TO APPLICANT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FRIENDS AND FAMILY. WE JUST STATE THE OBVIOUS SIMILAR. IT'S THE LAND USE AND ZONING RIGHT WAYNE IS THE LAND USE AND ZONING. THIS IS THE IT'S A IT'S A THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE APPLICATIONS RIGHT. 
          SO. WE MAKE THE SAME COMMENTS. YEAH YOU CAN DO THAT OKAY. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS. NO NONE FOR ME. 
          MAYBE. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. SO THE FIRST HEARING WAS ABOUT WHETHER AGRICULTURE AND CONSERVATION SHOULD BECOME RESIDENTIAL. THIS HEARING IS ABOUT WHAT VERSION OF RESIDENTIAL IT SHOULD HAVE. IF IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS IS THE ZONING WHERE YOU'RE PICKING WHAT VERSION OF RESIDENTIAL YOU SHOULD HAVE. SO IT'S THEY'RE THEY'RE SIMILAR PROCESSES BUT BUT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE FACTORS THAT THE BOARD CONSIDERS WHEN THEY DO IT. THIS PHASE IS EFFECTIVELY FINE TUNING WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. OH YEAH. SO WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PORTION. SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. AND PLEASE INDICATE IF YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD TRAVIS GAUTREAUX AGAIN I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. SHE SAID HERSELF. ADDRESS 0627 NEWMAN POINT ROAD. THE LADY SAID IT HERSELF. 
          PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE OUT HERE BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT IS. DON'T CHANGE IT. BOTTOM LINE, I MEAN, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE D.R. HORTON MONEY. THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD, BUT DON'T LET THEM COME IN HERE AND REDO AND CHANGE EVERYTHING FROM THE WAY IT IS NOW. THAT'S ALL I ASK. JOHNNY YOUNG, 814 SOUTHPORT, FLORIDA I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. CAN I PUT IN MY VOTE TO GET A CHANGE FROM CONSERVATION TO PRISTINE? YEAH, IT DOESN'T WORK QUITE LIKE THAT, BUT. WELL, I HAD TO ASK. YEAH. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SCOTT MCDADE, 801 REESE DRIVE. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. MAY I PLAY JUST A THE THE MATING CALL OF THIS THIS. I'M SORRY. SO THAT'S A CHUCK WILL'S WIDOW. IT'S FUNNY HOW I'M FIXATED ON THIS, BECAUSE MY DAD WAS A FORESTER IN OREGON AND WASHINGTON, AND HE WORKED IN 
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THE WOODS AS A LIVING, AND AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND COMING FROM CALIFORNIA, YOU GET THIS A PRECONCEIVED NOTION THAT WE'RE ALL TREE HUGGERS. AND I'M NOT I'M A VERY CONSERVATIVE VOTER. 
          AND I JUST HOPE THAT THIS COUNTY WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEEDS OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY. IT'S A IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT A WEALTHY COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT LA JOLLA AND IT'S NOT WEST PALM BEACH, BUT IT'S WHAT WE HAVE. AND AGAIN, WHERE MY LOCATION IS, I'M STUCK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT IT'S GOING TO THOROUGHLY MAKE WIREGRASS BOULEVARD VERY, VERY BUSY STREET. AND RIGHT NOW, WITH THE DEAD END IN CLEMENT AT THE END, IT'S A DEAD END. SO I'M NOT GOING TO KNOW WHO'S IN IN COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTANT FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND CHANGING AG TO RESIDENTIAL. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME ARGUMENT FROM EVERYBODY HERE IN THIS ROOM. SO I'M JUST IMPLORING YOU TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS TINY 63 ACRES COMPARED TO THE 700 TO FANNING BAYOU. AND YET THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE PURCHASING WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT 13 YEARS AGO. AND AND ALSO THERE'S THAT THAT PROPERTY BELOW SOUTH OF THIS 63 ACRES, WHICH IS THEY'VE ALREADY SOLD TO A SCHOOL, I BELIEVE THAT HASN'T DEVELOPED IT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A MARINA, A SMALL MARINA THERE. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS OF THAT PROPERTY. SO THEY'VE ALREADY USED DIVIDED THAT LOWER SECTION OF THEIR PROPERTY AND VIRTUALLY PROBABLY PURCHASED IT THAT 63 ACRES, HOPING NOT TO HAVE ANY FUTURE USE OF IT. BUT NOW THEY'RE DECIDING TO CHANGE IT. SO I JUST DON'T SEE A NEED FOR THAT. MANY DENSITY DENSE HOMES OF A COMMUNITY IN THAT LITTLE TINY AREA, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE WILDLIFE IN THE WETLANDS, ARE RIGHT THERE, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE URBAN RUNOFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOANNE STRAUSS. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN 1150 FOURTH CIRCLE, SOUTHPORT, FLORIDA. YES, I'M THE ONE WHO CAME HERE WITH THE GOATS AND. WE CAME HERE BECAUSE WHEN WE INITIALLY CALLED AROUND AND LOOKED AROUND IN FLORIDA, THEY SAID, SOUTHPORT, YOU CAN GO TO SOUTHPORT, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR GOATS. SO WE BOUGHT A HUD HOUSE. IT'S STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FIXING UP IN SEVEN YEARS LATER, AND WE HAD OUR GOATS. SINCE THEN OUR GOATS HAVE PASSED. WE HAVE THREE DOGS, I HAVE A CAT AND I HAVE NUMEROUS OUTSIDE CATS, AND I REALLY ENJOY HAVING A HALF AN ACRE. I MEAN, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU HAVE WE HAVE HOUSING GOING ON AROUND US, YOU KNOW, UP ON SIXTH STREET AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THE HOUSES ALMOST ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER. 
          AND I JUST WOULD HATE TO HAVE ANOTHER SUBDIVISION COME IN LIKE THAT. IF YOU'VE GOT ONE HOUSE PER HALF ACRE AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT FOUR HOUSES ON ONE ACRE, YOU DON'T GET A BACKYARD. 
          YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING. YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S BATHROOM. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S JUST LIKE I KIND OF CAME FROM A SITUATION LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE. I COULD HAVE MY GOATS AND COME HERE AND BE COMFORTABLE AND SEE WILDLIFE AND SEE EAGLES FLY OVER MY HOUSE. YOU JUST DON'T GET THAT EVERYWHERE ELSE. SO I JUST HAD TO SAY IT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN THEY BOUGHT THIS LAND, THEY SAID IT WAS TWO UNITS PER TWO DWELLINGS PER ONE ACRE. IS THAT CORRECT? HOW DID IT COME TO THAT? THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PUT FIVE HOUSES ON ONE ACRE BECAUSE NONE OF US COULD DO THAT. BUT WE DON'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DEEP POCKETS. BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION IS HOW HOW DOES IT COME TO THAT? I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT NOW AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. BUT I NEED YOUR YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, CHARITY. SHANNON. 723 NEWMAN POINT. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. THIS IS WHAT'S AT HAND IS A ZONING REQUEST CHANGE. YOU CAN ANYONE CAN REQUEST THAT YOU CAN FOR YOUR PROPERTY. IF YOU WANT TO ASK TO HAVE YOUR HOUSE CHANGED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, YOU YOU CAN ASK DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL HAPPEN. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S AT PLAY HERE. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. RIGHT. OKAY. BUT I DON'T HAVE THEIR MONEY SO IT COULD I COULDN'T DO THAT, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW. SO. MR. CARTER, WHEN YOU MADE THE MOTION SAYING MY NAME IS LAUREL FLOYD, I LIVE AT 12 402 PERKINS ROAD, SOUTHPORT, FLORIDA. WHEN YOU MADE THE MOTION, EXCUSE ME. AND YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND I'VE BEEN SWORN IN. THANK YOU. 
          SAYING THAT YOU WERE OPPOSED TO THIS. AND THEN THE VOTE WAS TAKEN AND EVERYBODY SAID YES, YES, YES. DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND IT TO THE COMMISSION? WHAT DID 
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THAT MEAN WHEN YOU ALL SAID YES, YES, YES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND IT? VOTE OKAY. YES OR NO TO THE VOTE TO THE MOTION. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I'M NOT THE CHAIR. I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO ARE WE. SO ARE WE DISCUSSING? I KNOW THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, SO MAYBE WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE AGENDA. ARE WE DISCUSSING THE SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS DUPLEX? JUST IN CASE IT GETS RECOMMENDED TO THE COMMISSION? OR JUST IN CASE THE COMMISSION GOES AHEAD WITH IT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND IT, DO WE STILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE BUILT THERE? OH, LORD. THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A PART OF THE PROCESS, A CONTINUATION FROM THE OTHER. 
          OKAY, SO BECAUSE WE ALL FELT LIKE WE WON SOMETHING WHEN YOU SAID THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING NEXT, OKAY. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS I MENTIONED LITTLE BERT MILL CREEK THAT SNUCK UP ON US. THERE WERE 200 ACRES THERE. WE DID MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER. I GOT ALL THE SPECS ASKING ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND THERE'S ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A 122 HOMES. THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAID THERE WILL BE 1100 CARS PER DAY THAT THAT'S WHAT THEIR PREDICTION WENT OUT. YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN ALGORITHM FOR THAT. I KNOW THAT AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY IS OPPOSED TO IT. IF YOU GET INTO THE DETAILS, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE TO BE OPPOSED TO THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          BEFORE LONG, IT WAS A DESERT. AND WHAT WE HAVE IN SOUTHPORT IS UNIQUE AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH. LITTLE BY LITTLE YOU BECOME A CONGESTED TALLAHASSEE OR CONGESTED CALLOWAY OR PARKER AND, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          OH, MR. CHESTER, 6 TO 726 BOULEVARD, SOUTHPORT. BEING SWORN IN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A REAL QUICK. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE. I WANT YOUR VOTE. BUT STANDING UP, MAKING A MOTION AND STANDING UP AND VOTING FOR WHAT THE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN AND ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AND LISTEN TO PEOPLE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. RON LENNOX 1115 SANTA ROSA COURT. I'VE BEEN SWORN IN JUST TO PIGGYBACK. COACH SAID TO APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. IT'S LIKE A SMALL VICTORY. BUT ALAN SPIKES WAS THE OWNER. HE INHERITED IT FROM HIS DAD, JAMES SPIKES. HE WASN'T A DEVELOPER. HE JUST INHERITED THE PROPERTY PROPERTIES. NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY. THEY BOUGHT IT FROM HIM. THEY DEVELOPED IT. PHANTOM BAYOU WAS DEVELOPED BY ANOTHER COMPANY BACK IN THE EARLY 2000, AND WE KNEW IT WAS COMING. THE RECESSION SHUT IT DOWN. D.R. HORTON BOUGHT THAT FROM THE DEVELOPER. THE COST OF SCHOOL WAS A PART OF THEIR LAND THEY HAD PURCHASED IN THIS WHOLE TRACT. THEY REALIZED IT WAS LOW SWAMP AND REALLY COULDN'T BE USED THAN PEOPLE NOT COMING TO THE COUNTY AND WATCHING WHAT THEY'RE BUYING. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK THE BAIT AND NOW THEY'RE ON THE HOOK FOR IT. IT'S ON THE MARKET FOR EIGHT POINT SOMETHING MILLION. SO D.R. HORTON'S GOT THE GOOD OF THE HEART. THEY KNEW THEY HAD IT. LIKE I SAID, THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THIS AROUND HERE. IF YOU GO FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN, THERE'S NOT EVEN 100 HOME SITES IN THAT WHOLE NEWMAN TRACT AREA. THE PHANTOM BAYOU BACKS UP BACK HERE. SHE'S SAYING IT'S GOING TO TIE IN. WELL, TIE IN ENDS NORTH. THE YELLOW IS BILL SHORE'S PROPERTY FROM AMERICAN SAND. I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO LET THAT GO ABOVE THAT. IT'S SAINT JOE'S NOW. SAINT JOE AND D.R. HORTON, THEY MIGHT DEAL TOGETHER, BUT THEY HAVE TO BUY PEOPLE OUT. THERE'S ALSO FOUR HOUSES RIGHT THERE IN THAT PURPLE WETLANDS. 
          I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT HERE. THEY COULDN'T GET OFF WORK, BUT I'M SURE THEY DON'T WANT THAT AROUND THEIR HOUSE. THAT'S ALREADY EXISTED THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. LIKE I SAID, ON TOP OF THE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT, EVERYBODY WANTS TO ADDRESS, YOU CAN'T PUT THAT MANY CARS ON THAT STREET, AND IT'S NOT FEASIBLY SAFE FOR PEOPLE. I TRIED TO CALL FHP ABOUT THE BRIDGE. WE'VE HAD OVER HALF A DOZEN WRECKS ON THAT BRIDGE, TWO FATALITIES. WE HAD A WRECK YESTERDAY RIGHT THERE ON 2302. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'RE GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          BUT THE RATE OF SPEED PEOPLE COME DOWN, I'M SURE EVERYBODY CAN VOUCH. NOBODY'S HAPPY WITH THE SPEED THAT PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING DOWN. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING 100 HOUSES IN THAT GREEN BLOCK WHEN THERE'S NOT 100 HOUSES. AND HOW MANY ACRES THAT IS ON NEWMAN POINT WHERE THESE PEOPLE LIVE AT. LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST WE DON'T WANT IT HERE. YOU GOT THE AVAILABLE LAND LIKE MISTER, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME SAID AT HODGES, I OWN LAND. HODGES. BUY YOU OWN WATERFRONT LOT. HODGES BY YOU. I'M FOR DEVELOPMENT. I BOUGHT IT TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT. I'M SAYING YOU GOT THAT AND YOU GOT FANNIN. LEAVE THIS. JUST LEAVE THIS ALONE. I'M SAYING PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT, ANIMALS DON'T WANT IT. AND LIKE I SAID, WE ALL GOT SHORTCHANGED ON ANNOUNCEMENTS. LIKE, HERE'S ONE WEEK OF CERTIFIED LETTER SHOW UP AT 130 WHEN A WORKING MAN LIKE, LUCKY FOR ME, I CAN SHOW UP. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S WAY MORE THAN 60 EMAILS AND THERE'S WAY MORE THAN THAT. IF YOU WILL JUST GIVE US SOME TIME TO RALLY THE TROOPS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND GOT A VICTORY ON THE FIRST. AND LIKE I SAID, WE JUST WE DON'T WANT IT, MAN. AND LIKE I SAID, KEITH BRYANT SHOULD LOOK AT THIS ALSO INSTEAD OF THE TRAFFIC. HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COME OUT OF CLEMENTS THE WIREGRASS TO NEWMAN. AND LET'S GET THOSE NUMBERS OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO 
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THE NEWS. HOW MANY CARS GOING TO COME DOWN THAT LITTLE ROAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN'T HOLD? OR LIKE I SAID, WHO'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT ONE TO GET KILLED? THANK YOU. JERRY MCQUAIG, 7103 ESCAMBIA AVENUE IN SOUTHPORT. I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN. I HAVE A QUESTION HERE FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, I USED TO COACH LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL BACK IN THE 1980S, AND WE COULD LOSE A GAME JUST OVER ONE LITTLE INFRACTION OR NOT, FOLLOWING THE RULE BOOK. AND I WONDER IF YOU GUYS FOLLOW THE RULE BOOK ON THIS. YEAH, YOU PUT A SIGN OUT THERE, AND UNLESS YOU DROVE OUT THERE AND SAW THE LITTLE SIGN ABOUT THE THE LAND USE CHANGE, YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A LETTER IN THE MAIL FROM D.R. HORTON. I GOT A I GOT A CERTIFIED LETTER FROM D.R. HORTON THINKING, OKAY, I SIGNED THIS. THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER ME. IT WAS DATED JANUARY THE 9TH, THE SAME DAY I SIGNED FOR IT, BUT IT WASN'T FROM D.R. HORTON. IT FROM BAY COUNTY COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND NO ONE SIGNED IT. IS THAT LEGAL? IS THIS EVEN ILLEGAL MEETING? AND WHAT I'M SAYING I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT, IS THIS MEETING LEGAL, THE WAY YOU HANDLE THIS? AND I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD GET THAT AND THINK, WELL, THIS IS ALREADY A DONE DEAL. 
          D.R. HORTON IS SENDING ME THE LETTER. IT'S IT'S DATED THE SAME DAY I'M SIGNING IT. YOU DON'T SEE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT IN THAT AREA WOULD, IF THEY GOT A LETTER LIKE THAT. MAYBE THAT'S OKAY IN YOUR BOOK. BUT REMEMBER, IN LITTLE LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL, YOU COULD LOSE THE GAME. JUST ONE MINOR INFRACTION OF THE RULE. THANK YOU. YOU JUST HAD YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE PROCESS FOR THE. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. 
          WITH THAT I'M SORRY. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK? I HAVE ONE. WE CAN FIX THAT. YOU'LL NEED TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DO. MY NAME IS LINDA PERRY, AND I LIVE ON 6821 HILLIARD STREET, WHICH IS VERY NEAR TO THIS. AND YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND MY QUESTION IS, WHEN D.R. HORTON BOUGHT ALL THAT PROPERTY TO DEVELOP, THERE WAS WETLANDS OUT THERE. AND WHEN YOU DESTROY WETLANDS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH OTHER PROPERTY. AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS A REPLACEMENT FOR WETLANDS WHEN HE DESTROYED THE WETLANDS. SO TO ME, YOU KNOW, 13 YEARS HAS PASSED AND HE, YOU KNOW, OH, THEY FORGOT ALL ABOUT THAT. SO WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT OVER, TOO. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, SIR, BECAUSE I LIVE YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO ADD ON TO OUR HOUSE THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. WE HAD TO HAVE PEOPLE. I LIVE ON THE WATER, SAME PLACE, SAME AREA. WE HAD TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT THERE FROM DEP TO TELL US IF WE COULD ADD ON TO OUR HOUSE, AND WE HAD A PLANT GROWING BACK IN THE BACK BEHIND OUR FENCE, AND THEY SAID IF THAT PLANT WAS TEN FEET CLOSER TO YOUR HOUSE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO APPROVE YOU BUILDING ONTO YOUR OWN HOUSE. 
          SO, I MEAN, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN TAKE AN AREA LIKE THAT DESIGNATED ALREADY, THAT THEY ALREADY KNEW WHAT IT WAS. YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WAS ZONED AS. AND NOW JUST COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE FORGOT WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE. SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. QUESTION. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK? NOW WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. WAYNE, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE RULE BOOK FOR PUBLIC NOTICE PROCEDURES? OFFICER BAY COUNTY FOLLOWS ALL THE REGULATIONS REQUIRED BY THE STATE IN RELATION TO THESE TWO REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY SO FAR. BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE REQUESTS AND THE ZONING REQUESTS REQUIRE THAT WE PUBLISH A NOTICE ON THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC NOTICE WEBSITE PAGE AT LEAST TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THIS HEARING. THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT WE PLACE A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY, NOTICING THE THE REQUEST AGAIN WITHIN TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING. THE ZONING REQUEST REQUIRES THE APPLICANT SEND OUT CERTIFIED 
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MAIL NOTICES IN THIS CASE, WITH THIS ZONING REQUEST WITHIN TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OWN PROPERTY WITHIN 500FT. BAY COUNTY PLANNING PROVIDES THAT LETTER TO THE APPLICANT, AND WE PROVIDE THE APPLICANT A MAILING LIST OF WHAT THOSE ADDRESSES SHOULD BE SENT TO, AND THEN THE APPLICANT SENDS OUT MILLS. IT'S THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAIL THOSE OUT AGAIN AT LEAST TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING. AND THE APPLICANT THEN IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US WITH THOSE CERTIFIED MAIL RECEIPTS. SO WE VERIFY THAT THEY'VE MAILED THEM. AND THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO APPLICANT REBUTTAL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. GOOD. THANK YOU. MOVE NEXT TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND ACTION. 
          DISCUSSION FOR ME THAT I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. JEFF, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DENY THIS REQUEST TO GO ALONG WITH THE FIRST? YES, PLEASE. OKAY, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND. MR. CHRISTIE. YES, MA'AM. MR. DAVID. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. HONEYCUTT. YES, MA'AM. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER THREE. COMMISSIONER, TO CONDUCT A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING, P.L. 20250273. TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REVISE CHAPTER 17 OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE ADMINISTRATION AND 18 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OF LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE PROVIDES REQUIREMENTS FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, STAFF PRESENTATION. WAYNE. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU JUST WANT TO. 
          YEAH. ADDRESS. YEAH. SORRY. MY MY MAYBE I HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. SO I'M TRYING TO HURRY IT ALONG. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS. YEAH. SO THE THE THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. THE COUNTY COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THIS IN ABOUT A MONTH, FEBRUARY 18TH. AND THERE'LL BE SIGNAGE AND NOTICES. JUST LIKE THIS MEETING. 
          WE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STICK AROUND IF YOU TO HEAR ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AND WHATEVER ELSE WE'RE COVERING. BUT BUT BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEAVE IF, IF, IF THE ONLY THING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WAS THE THE SOUTHPORT MATTER. AND SHE DIDN'T. OKAY. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REREAD NUMBER THREE? WHY NOT? OH, IF YOU WANT TO JUST LET THE ROOM CLEAR OUT. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH, YOU HEAR THE BIRDS SINGING IN ALL THE MOTION? YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME AFTER YOU MAY AS WELL HAVE COMPANY. AND BRIAN'S A GOOD ONE TO BE IN THE POKEY WITH. SO THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT I APPRECIATE IT OKAY. IT'S NOT THAT FUN. THAT WAS FUN. THEY MADE A MASSIVE MISTAKE. LET ME TALK NUTS AND STUFF. IT'S GOING TO BE. YOU GUYS I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GET. 
          UP OKAY. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER THREE. I'LL READ IT AGAIN. COMMISSIONER, CONDUCT A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING. DR. 20250273 TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REVISE 
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CHAPTER 17 DEVELOPMENT CODE ADMINISTRATION AND 18 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE PROVIDES REQUIREMENTS FOR FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. STAFF PRESENTATION. WAYNE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. STAFF IS PROPOSING TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE REGULATIONS. THE REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 17 PROVIDE LANGUAGE THAT DEFINES LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS AND EXEMPTS THEM FROM DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. 
          THE REVISIONS. CHAPTER 18 ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. THE PURPOSE OF THE REVISIONS IS TO CREATE AN ALTERNATE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT PROPOSE NO NEW STRUCTURES AND MINIMAL ADDITIONS OF IMPERVIOUS PAVING MATERIALS. ATTACHED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ARE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS UNDERLINED. 
          THIS LANGUAGE, IT'S KIND OF GEARED TOWARDS STORAGE AND LAYDOWN YARDS, WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPLICANT, IS AGAIN NOT PROPOSING PROPOSING ANY NEW STRUCTURES. 
          AND AGAIN, VERY MINIMAL PAVING MATERIALS SUCH AS GRAVEL OR ASPHALT, THINGS LIKE THAT ALLOWS A DIFFERENT PROCESS FOR PERMITTING THAT THAT MAY BE LESS DETAILED. APPLICATION PROCESS STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION. RECOMMENDATION TO THE TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SO THIS WOULD WORK. THIS WOULD BE LIKE THAT ONE ON ALLISON AVENUE THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO LAST MONTH AT COMPANY. THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING. SO FOR THEM TO GO AND DEVELOP THAT, PUT THAT PROPERTY THAT WAS ON THAT BEACH OVER THERE WHERE THAT CHURCH WAS. THAT THIS WOULD WORK FOR THEM TO DEVELOP. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES YET OF WHAT THEY PROPOSE THERE. SO I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT. OKAY. AGAIN, IT'S IT'S MORE GEARED TOWARD OPEN STORAGE YARDS OR LAY DOWN YARDS WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING A WHOLE LOT OF GRAVEL OR PAVING MATERIALS. AGAIN, JUST, JUST TO HAVE RAW PROPERTY. THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, GRASS OR DIRT AND, AND USE IT TO STORE MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO. AND IS THERE ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT COULD BE A BACK DOOR TO DEVELOPMENT AFTER THE FACT? IN OTHER WORDS, USE IT FOR A LAY DOWN YARD FOR TEN YEARS AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ZONING APPROPRIATE TO TO PUT A STRUCTURE ON THERE WITHOUT WITHOUT THAT BEING THE ORIGINAL INTENT. COULD THIS BE THAT MAKING SENSE? SO ARE YOU ASKING IF EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE DOING THIS? I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THIS IS IF THIS IS POTENTIALLY A WAY TO CHEAT THE PROCESS. IF YOU BUILD A STRUCTURE, YOU STILL NEED DEVELOPMENT, YOU STILL NEED A PERMIT. CORRECT. AND FOR THAT YOU'D HAVE TO GET THE PLANNING. SO SO THERE WOULD STILL BE THE REQUIREMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, REQUIRED LANDSCAPING AND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. ANY ENGINEERING PERMITS LIKE A DRIVEWAY, CONNECTIONS TO COUNTY ROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. JUST TYPICALLY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THERE'S VERY LITTLE IMPROVEMENT THAT REQUIRES ADDING IMPERVIOUS AREA. SO THERE'S LESS THERE'S LESS REQUIREMENTS FOR STORMWATER PHOTOMETRIC PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU WOULD STILL WELL LIGHTING PLAN. IF YOU'RE HAVING OUTDOOR LIGHTING THAT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED. IT WOULD IT WOULD IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED TO SEEK THE SERVICES OF A CIVIL ENGINEER, TO DESIGN STORMWATER, TO DESIGN YOUR SITE PLAN, NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT CHANGING ZONING, JUST ABOUT DEVELOPMENT STRICTLY. YOU WOULD HAVE TO THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE ZONING NECESSARY FOR THAT REQUIRED FOR THAT USE BEFORE WE COULD APPROVE A PERMIT FOR THAT. OKAY. RIGHT. MOVE NOW TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? JOHN. YEAH, ACTUALLY. GOOD. WHEN I'VE BEEN SWORN IN, MY NAME IS SCOTT MCDADE. SCOTT MCDADE, 801 REESE DRIVE IN PANAMA CITY. HEY, MICHAEL, YOU ALLUDED TO ALLISON AVENUE IS IN I DID THAT ACTUALLY IS A VERY IT WAS JUST BASICALLY WE HAD SOMETHING CAME BEFORE US LAST MONTH THAT THEY WANTED JUST TO DO AN OPEN STORAGE YARD AND TO STORE THINGS. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS MIGHT. IT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR TO IT. RIGHT. OR SIMILAR SITUATION. I DELIVER FOR TRACTOR SUPPLY AND I GO TO ALLISON AND FAITH LANE RIGHT NEAR THERE BY THAT CHURCH. AND IT THEY ARE JUST A HEADACHE OF A FLOOD AREA WHEN ANY KIND OF 
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MINIMAL RAIN IS I MEAN, IT'S VIRTUALLY A LAKE. AND SO THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF LATE LAY DOWN AREA LIKE THAT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF STUDIES IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE AND STORM RUNOFF. SO YEAH, IT'S SO IF THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT I DISAGREE. THAT SHOULDN'T BE AMENDED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. MOVE TO COMMISSION. DISCUSSION AND ACTION. MOTION TO READ THROUGH THIS. IT LOOKS SO LOGICAL. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. CHRISTIE. YES, MA'AM. MR. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. HONEYCUTT. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. NUMBER FOUR, COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING, P.L. 20250274 TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REVISE CHAPTER 29, SUBDIVISIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE PROVIDES REQUIREMENTS FOR MAIL KIOSK PLACEMENT WITHIN SUBDIVISIONS AND REVISES LOT SPLIT REQUIREMENTS. STAFF PRESENTATION. WAYNE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, STAFF IS PROPOSING TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE REVISIONS TO. PARDON ME THE WRONG. THE REVISIONS TO SECTION 2905 PROVIDES LANGUAGE TO ADDRESS THE PLACEMENT OF CLUSTER MAILBOX UNITS IN NEW SUBDIVISIONS. THE PURPOSE OF THE REVISION IS TO PROVIDE REGULATION FOR THE LOCATION OF CLUSTER MAILBOX UNITS OR MAILBOX KIOSKS IN AREAS THAT WILL NOT RESULT IN UNSAFE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN CONDITIONS. IN MORE RECENT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT, THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE IS NO LONGER PARTICIPATING IN WANTING TO DEVELOP TO DELIVER MAIL TO INDIVIDUAL MAILBOX MAILBOXES WITHIN THE SUBDIVISIONS. THEREFORE, THE DEVELOPERS KIND OF FORCED WITH THE OPTION, THE ONLY OPTION BEING TO PLACE A MAIL KIOSK. SO CURRENTLY THE LDR DOES NOT HAVE ANY LANGUAGE THAT REALLY TALKS ABOUT WHERE THOSE CAN BE PLACED AT OR HOW THEY CAN BE PLACED. SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO KIND OF PROVIDE ALMOST AS ANOTHER AMENITY AREA TO WHERE YOU WON'T WE WON'T HAVE PEOPLE PULLING OVER OFF ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITHIN A NEW SUBDIVISION TO CHECK THEIR MAIL, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE REVISION TO SECTION 2918 REVISES LANGUAGE REGARDING LOT SPLITS AND LOT SHIFTS WITHIN PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LOT LINE SHIFTS WHEN THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF TOTAL LOTS WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION. ATTACHED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ARE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS IS UNDERLINED. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION CONDUCT A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING. FIND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. AGAIN, WE'VE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. MOVE NOW TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO SCOTT, IS SCOTT MCDADE, 801 REESE DRIVE IN SOUTHPORT. AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. IT'S FUNNY, THIS CAME UP ON THE DOCKET. I WAS TOYING WITH THE IDEA OF OF TAKING MY LOT AND SPLITTING IT IN SOUTHPORT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO MY SONS, BLESS THEIR SOULS, ARE WHEN I PASS AWAY. 
          THEY COULD POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, PUT ANOTHER DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY. IS, IS THIS GOING TO HAVE ANY BEARING ON, ON ON MY DECISION OR IS IT, I MEAN IT'S BASICALLY TWO ACRES. SO I JUST SPLIT IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. AND SO IS THERE GOING TO BE A IS IT STILL ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 
          CORRECT. THERE'S THERE'S MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR LOT WIDTHS. AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF AN INDIVIDUAL LOT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPLIT THE LOT. IS THAT RIGHT, WAYNE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF YOU WANT TO STAY AFTER THE MEETING, WE CAN LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY AND DISCUSS THAT THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT THE ABILITY, YOUR ABILITY TO SPLIT YOUR PARCEL. THIS IS REVISING SOME LANGUAGE THAT DISCUSSES LOT LINE SHIFTS WITHIN PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS. IF YOUR PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN A PLATTED SUBDIVISION, THIS INDIVIDUAL REVISION WOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR PROPERTY AT ALL. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I HAVE NO NEED TO DISCUSS. IT'S JUST. IT'S. I'M TOYING WITH THE IDEA. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN AND LADIES. 
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ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND MOVE TO COMMISSION. DISCUSSION AND ACTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. MR. CHRISTIE. MR. DAFFEN. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. YES, MA'AM. MR. HUNNICUTT. YES, MA'AM. MR. HAYMAN. YES, MA'AM. ITEM F COMMISSION MEMBER. ITEMS. ANY FOR ME? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THERE BEING NONE, W
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