[Code Magistrate Hearing on April 16, 2026.] [00:00:08] CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. I HAVE REVIEWED THE DOCKET. DO NOT SEE A BASIS FOR RECUSAL IN ANY OF THE CASES APPEARING ON THIS DOCKET. I'VE NOT HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS WITH ANYONE REGARDING ANY OF THE CASES. IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE, I'D ASK YOU TO TURN IT OFF OR TURN IT TO SILENT. IF YOU ANTICIPATE GIVING TESTIMONY, IF YOU WOULD STAND AND BE SWORN. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? REFLECT. EVERYONE ANSWERED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. OKAY, MISS ASHMAN, YOU KNOW. OKAY. AS OF NOW, WE HAVE ITEMS B, E, AND F THAT ARE PRESENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'D LIKE TO START WITH ITEM B. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3120. TWO FOUR FIVE. NUMBER TWO LOCATION PURPOSES. THIS IS LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY COMMONLY KNOWN AS CEDAR GROVE. PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED. LINES, RUNS OFF OF EVERETT AVENUE AND THERE'S CEDAR ROAD ELEMENTARY. SLIDE NUMBER THREE. THE SHOW THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN A FLOOD ZONE. AND THIS IS A FIRST HEARING AND. THIS IS CONTINUATION FROM THE FIRST HEARING. AND MR. FOX HAS TESTIFIED. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAGISTRATE ROBERT CLARKSON, BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT, THIS CASE WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK ON THE 12TH, AND YOU CONTINUED THE CASE. TILL TODAY. FOR, I GUESS, SOME MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE PROPERTY OWNER, SINCE SINCE THE CASE WAS HEARD, HE DID SUBMIT AN A ARCHITECT CERTIFIED ARCHITECT LETTER FOR THE STRUCTURE OR THE ARCHITECT DEEMED THAT THE MOBILE HOME WITH THE ATTACHMENT WAS SAFE AND SECURE. BASED ON THAT LETTER, WE HAVE CHANGED THE PROPERTY TO BEING BLIGHTED BECAUSE THE THE ARCHITECT DID DEEM THAT THE ROOF NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED, AND ALSO THAT ADDITION WAS BUILT WITHOUT PERMITTING. SO THE COUNTY WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT ADDITION TO BE PERMITTED. BUT BASED ON THAT, THE CASE MOVED FORWARD. I RE-INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKED LIKE THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU ON THE DAY OF THE HEARING. BUILDING INSPECTION FROM INSPECTOR THORPE. THIS WORD NEEDED RAILING FOR THE. BALCONY OR THE DECK SOFFIT FASCIA FALLING OFF THERE ON THE FRONT. HAD THE TARP UP THERE, I BELIEVE HE TESTIFIED TO TO JUST TO MAKE SURE HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WATER LEAKAGE, BUT MAINTAINED THERE WAS NO LEAKAGE FROM THE ROOF. THIS IS THE ADDITION WE'RE SPEAKING OF. AND WE HAD SOME FASHION JUNK. YES, THERE WAS SOME. AND HE HE'S CLEARED THE TRASH AND JUNK. I FAST FORWARD TO IF YOU WANT TO. FAST FORWARD TO. THE LAST INSPECTION, I WOULD HAVE DONE. SO ON MARCH 23RD. THE PROPERTY OWNER DID OBTAIN A PERMIT TO REPAIR THE HANDRAILS ON THE DECK AND SKIRTING FOR THE MOBILE HOME. THAT PERMIT WAS ISSUED ON THE 23RD AND EXPIRES SEPTEMBER THE 23RD. THIS HEARING WAS POSTED AGAIN ON APRIL THE 1ST. APRIL THE 8TH. I CHECKED THE PERMITTING AND HE HAD ALSO APPLIED FOR ORIGINAL PERMIT WHEN THE CASE FIRST OPENED FOR RENOVATIONS, BUT THAT WAS PLACED ON HOLD BECAUSE THEY NEEDED STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND PLANNING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. ON APRIL 13TH, I INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. PROPERTY IS NOW CLEAN. I THINK IT'S GETTING READY FOR THE [00:05:05] SKIRTING AND THE HANDRAILS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE DECKING THEIR PORCH. THAT PERMIT IS, LIKE I SAID, STILL GOOD. IT DOESN'T EXPIRE TILL THE 23RD, BUT THAT WORK IS ONLY LIMITED TO THE SCOPE OF THE DECK AND SKIRTING. SO AT THIS POINT HE WOULD, BASED ON WHAT THE THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER SAID WOULD NEED TO GET A ROOF REPAIR PERMIT FOR THAT AND PERMIT FOR THE ADDITION. THAT'S WHAT AT LEAST IS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND WE CHANGED THIS TO A BLIGHTED AND NOT AN UNSAFE, UNFIT STRUCTURE. AND THAT KIND OF CONCLUDES MY TESTIMONY FOR RIGHT NOW. OKAY, SO THE THE RENOVATION PERMIT IS STILL IN THE HOPPER, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S STILL PENDING. YES, SIR. BUT I BELIEVE AFTER SPEAKING TO CHARLIE HERE, THAT THAT HE WOULD NEED NOT A RENOVATION PERMIT, BUT A. COME ON TO TELL US SO WE CAN GET IT ON THE RECORD. YES, SIR. CHARLIE MONTGOMERY COUNTY. SO CURRENTLY HE HAS A RENOVATION PERMIT IN PLACE FOR THE DECKING AND THE SKIRTING, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED. HE HAS A REPAIR PERMIT FOR THE ROOF AND SOME OTHER THINGS. THAT IS SUBMITTALS INCOMPLETE. THEY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION. NONE OF THAT WILL COVER THE ADDITION. THE ADDITION WILL HAVE TO BE PERMITTED SEPARATELY. IT DOESN'T COVER AND HE CAN'T CHANGE THE RENOVATION OR REPAIR PERMIT. IT HAS TO BE PERMITTED SEPARATELY AS AN ADDITION. AND BEING THAT IT'S IN A FLOOD ZONE, SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT VALUATIONS WILL GO INTO EFFECT WITH THAT TOO. SO IT MAY NOT IT MAY NOT FLY AT ALL IF THE COST OF THE RENOVATION OR THE ADDITION EXCEEDS 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE MOBILE HOME, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT. OKAY. WHAT'S THE. WELL, I'M GOING TO CALL THE TIME FRAME TO GET A DECISION ON THAT. OR DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA A BALLPARK OR. WELL, HE HASN'T EVEN SUBMITTED A PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE ADDITION YET. OKAY. AND THE OTHER ONE, THE SUBMITTALS ARE JUST GOING TO STAY INCOMPLETE UNTIL IT GOES INTO ABANDONED STATUS AFTER SIX MONTHS. SO HE HAS TO SUBMIT THOSE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS. OKAY. HE HAS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REPORT THAT THAT WOULD, I THINK, GO INTO PLAY FOR THE ADDITION PERMIT. SO THAT MIGHT SAVE THE TIME AS FAR AS DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REPORT UNLESS PERMITTING WANTS MORE THAN WHAT THE REPORT GIVES THEM. I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHEN WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS. I DON'T WANT TO SHUT HIM DOWN IF HE YOU KNOW, IF HE'S GOT STUFF IN THE HOPPER. YEAH, WE ACTUALLY DON'T OTHER THAN THE. ADDITIONS BEING UNPERMITTED, WE. ALL WE HAVE IS FOR GLIDING. SO HE HAS TO. WE'RE ASKING FOR HIM TO FIX IT. OKAY. NOW THAT STUFF HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE ROOF. DOES THAT HAS IT BEEN REPAIRED? HAS BEEN REMOVED. WE STILL HAVE THESE EAVES HANGING. I WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF CURIOUS, BUT I WAS GOING. I WAS LOOKING BACK. YOUR MAGISTRATE, THE REPAIR, THE REPAIR PERMIT THAT INCLUDED THE ROOF ON HIS SCOPE OF WORK. HE HAS UNTIL JULY 1ST BEFORE IT GOES INTO ABANDONED STATUS. OKAY, SO WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE TRIM THE SOFFIT OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT AROUND THE LISTED ON THERE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THAT KIND OF PERMIT. IT SAYS REPAIR MOBILE HOME ROOF, FASCIA STEPS, HANDRAIL IN ADDITION, BUT THE ADDITION IS NOT CAN'T BE COVERED UNDER THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REPAIR, IT'S AN ADDITION. SO HE HAS TO HAVE A SEPARATE PERMIT FOR THAT. OKAY. WELL, THE AS RELATES TO THE BLIGHTED THEN DURING THE WHILE THAT PERMIT IS STILL, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, THAT PERMIT IS STILL OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE REPAIRS. IS THAT SO? THE RENOVATION PERMIT IS OPEN AND ISSUED FOR THE STAIRS, HANDRAILS AND THE SKIRTING. THE ONE THAT THEY STILL NEED DOCUMENTS FOR INCLUDES THE ROOF AND SOME OTHER REPAIRS. OKAY. THE FASCIA. YES, SIR. THE BLIGHTED, THE BLIGHTED PORTIONS. BUT THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN MADE. IT'S JUST WAITING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS. CORRECT. AND HE HAS UNTIL JULY 1ST TO SUBMIT THOSE DOCUMENTS BEFORE IT GOES TO ABANDONED STATUS. RIGHT. OKAY. MR. KELLY? YES, SIR. TELL US YOUR NAME AND GIVE US A GOOD MAILING ADDRESS. GALEN KELLY, 3114 EAST 13TH COURT, PANAMA CITY, FLORIDA, 32401. OKAY. TELL US WHAT YOU WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT THIS. SO YES, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE LAST MAGISTRATE MEETING, I WENT TO GET THE HOMEOWNERS PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE DECKING AND THE, I MEAN, THE STAIRS AND [00:10:06] EVENTUALLY GET TO THE SKIRTING. SHE TOLD ME I COULDN'T TOUCH ANYTHING UNTIL A WEEK UNTIL THE PERMIT CAME IN. SO DURING THAT WEEK, I TOOK THE TIME TO CLEAN UP AND I GOT SOME SCRAPPERS TO COME BY AND PICK UP STUFF. I USED TO HAVE A TRAILER OUT THERE AND WE WOULD JUST ADD STUFF TO IT. SOME PEOPLE WOULD COME PICK IT UP. SO AND THEN WE FINALLY GOT RID OF THAT. SO HERE'S SOME, HERE'S SOME NEWER PICTURES. THEY'RE NOT AS LARGE DO I. THAT'S JUST SHOWING THE BACKYARD AND THE SIDE. AND I ALSO HAVE A, A PROPOSAL AND ACCEPTANCE FROM KURDI CONSTRUCTION LLC BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRAILER. THE MONDAY, THE WEEK AFTER THAT, I GOT THE PERMIT, BUT IT RAINED SO HARD AND WE HAD SOME WATER BACK UP IN OUR OWN HOME THAT WE HAD THE CITY COME OUT, AND THEY HAD TO DIG UP THE YARD. SO THAT GOT MOVED TO THE NEXT WEEK. AND THEN MR. KURDI CAME OUT, LOOKED AT THE PLACE AND SAID, HE'LL COME BACK WITH HIS FOREMAN THE NEXT WEEK. AND THEY CAME OUT AND DID MEASUREMENTS. AND THAT'S THE ESTIMATE THAT HE PUT, YOU KNOW, HE HAD PUT DOWN AND HE HAD WROTE THAT OUT. AND I TOLD HIM, I ASKED HIM IF I COULD BRING THAT WITH ME SO THAT I COULD SHOW THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN THE EFFORT TO GET THE WORK DONE ON THE ROOF. NOW, REGARDING THE THE THE ADDITION, WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, IT HAD AN ADDITION ON IT ALREADY. AND THEN WHEN THIS. WELL, AND THEN BECAUSE THE STORM HAD HIT PART OF THE ADDITION, WE HAD SOME CONSTRUCTION WORKERS STAYING THERE TEMPORARILY. AND INSTEAD OF CHARGING THEM RENT, THEY JUST FIXED UP THE ADDITION AND FIXED UP AS MUCH AS THEY COULD. BUT THEN TIME HAD RAN OUT AND THEN ANOTHER HURRICANE HAD CAME AND THEY HAD LEFT. SO LIKE IN REGARDS TO GETTING THE PERMIT FOR THE THE ADDITION, I WOULD NOT KNOW HOW TO BACKTRACK THAT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE. AND I'M ALREADY LIKE $6,000, $7,000 IN AND I AM HERE TO COMPLY. I'M NOT HERE TO, TO, TO COMBAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST I WAS HOPING THAT WITH THE, WITH THE, THE LETTER THAT THAT I HAD GOT FROM, FROM MR. HARRIS, MY STRUCTURAL, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT I HAD HIRED, I WAS HOPING THAT THE ADDITION WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, SETTLED. BUT AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M NOT VERY YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THE WORDAGE TO GO ALONG WITH, I DON'T KNOW THE CORRECT WORDS TO USE, BUT. LIKE, HOW WOULD THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK IN REGARDS TO LIKE, IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND PUT UP, BUT I DIDN'T PAY ANY MONEY TO DO THAT. HOW DO I GET A PERMIT LIKE GO BACKWARDS LIKE THAT IF IT'S ALREADY UP, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN THE PERMITTING BUSINESS. OH I GOTCHA. OKAY, OKAY, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST ADD BECAUSE THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER SAID THAT THE ADDITION WAS DONE CORRECTLY AND IT'S SAFE, WE NO LONGER HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE IT'S BECOMES A NO PERMITS WHICH WOULD GO OVER TO CHARLIE. SO OKAY, SO OUR ONLY MAIN CONCERN AT THIS POINT IS THE LIGHTING IS ALL THAT'S LEFT. OKAY. NOW MAY I ASK WHAT THAT MEANS? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. THIS IS A PROPOSAL, AN ACCEPTANCE FROM MR. KURDI. YES, SIR. AND KURDI CONSTRUCTION. WOULD THEY BE IN CHARGE OF GETTING THE PERMIT OR IS CAN CAN HE GET PULL A OWNER PERMIT AND THEN STILL HAVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR DO IT IF IT'S YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE? NO, IT HAS TO BE A CONTRACTOR. WELL, NO, THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO DO THE ROOF. AND THAT I'M SPEAKING OF THE ADDITION BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE ADDITION. AS FAR AS THE ROOF PART OF IT, IT'S JUST THE THE AND I'M USING THE WRONG WORDS, I APOLOGIZE, THE FASCIA AND THE AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES AROUND THE FRONT RIM, LIKE RIGHT OVER THE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT WHERE THE RED DOT IS RIGHT NOW. IF THAT MOVED OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT, THERE'S A PIECE OF WOOD UNDERNEATH THAT FASCIA THAT IT HAS A WARP TO IT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE PARTS THAT MR. KHADI'S COMPANY IS GOING TO BE FIXING. THERE'S ALSO BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY BUILT THE DECK, WHICH ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT I DIDN'T PAY FOR BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, HELP FIX IT UP WHILE THERE WAS NOWHERE ELSE FOR IT. EXCUSE ME, WHERE ANYONE ELSE COULD STAY. SO THESE CONTRACTORS, THE AGREEMENT WAS JUST PAY YOUR UTILITIES AND THEN JUST FIX UP WHAT NEEDS BEING FIXED UP. DURING THE TIME THAT THEY STARTED THE WORK, THERE WAS NOWHERE TO GET A [00:15:04] PERMIT, I DON'T BELIEVE, BECAUSE IT WAS SO SOON AFTER THE HURRICANE AND EVERYWHERE WAS WAS GONE. SO THEY STARTED THE WORK AND FINISHED IT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS LATER, I FIND OUT THAT THAT WASN'T RIGHT AND DIDN'T KNOW. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN I WAS, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS INSTRUCTED BY, I BELIEVE, MR. CLARKSON TO GET, YOU KNOW, HIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO COME OUT AND LOOK. AND THAT'S WHEN WE PAID THE, THE 750 TO DO THAT. AND THEN MR. HARRIS MORE OR LESS HAD TOLD US, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TOUCH ANYTHING ON THE ROOF, BUT I CAN DO LIKE THE RAILS AND THE SKIRTING. AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE ESTIMATE FOR THE ROOF FROM MR. KURDI, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE YOU SEE IT, IT WAS A BIGGER CHUNK OF CHANGE THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. SO IT'S LIKE I'M KIND OF BEGGING FOR MERCY A LITTLE BIT, JUST IN, IN, IN, IN THE SENSE THAT I'M ALREADY INTO IT VERY DEEPER THAN I EVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A PROBLEM AT FIRST. AND I WILL ADMIT IT DID THE BRUSH GOT OUT OF HAND. THE BACKYARD HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO USE, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO REPLACE THE AIR CONDITIONING, BUT THEY WERE ALL FAULTY UNITS. SO WE HAD SCRAPPERS COME AND TAKE ALL THEM AWAY. WE WERE USING THE PARKING LOT THOUGH. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THE PARKING LOT WITH THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CONCRETE ONE ON OUR SIDE. SO THAT'S WHY CARS WOULD BE PARKED OVER THERE. AND I'M USING IT AS STORAGE NOW. BUT I MEAN, IT'S I MEAN, ON THE INSIDE, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT LOOKS GREAT. IT'S JUST THE, THE, THE STUFF ON THE OUTSIDE THAT NEEDED TO BE TENDED TO. AND. CAME INTO FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES AND THINGS WENT SLOWER THAN I THOUGHT THEY WOULD. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EYE OPENING OF, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT, BRINGING IT TO MY ATTENTION THAT CERTAIN THINGS WEREN'T RIGHT OR NEEDED TO BE DONE, I TRIED TO DO MY BEST TO FOLLOW EVERY RULE THAT THEY SAID TO DO BY HIRING THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, AND HE OKAYED THE, THE, THE ADD ON THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WASN'T ALLOWED AT THE TIME. AND THEN ALSO, LIKE I SAID, HE INSTRUCTED ME TO GET MR. KURDI'S COMPANY OR GET A CONTRACTOR TO COME OUT AND DO THE WORK ON THE ROOF. AND I WAS HOPING THAT AFTER THE ROOF WORK WAS DONE AND I KNOW THE SKIRTING WILL BE DONE, BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE ROOFING JOB WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, IT'S STILL JUST GOING TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS ON THE SKIRTING. BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD, THE SKIRTING IS MORE OF AN ESTHETIC THING RATHER THAN SO, BUT WE ARE GOING TO GET IT DONE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SAVING UP THE MONEY AFTER WE GET THE ROOF DONE, TO GET THE NEXT JOB DONE. AND I GUESS MY MY BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THE, THE PERMIT ON THE PART OF THE HOUSE THAT IS ALREADY BEEN BUILT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T PAY FOR ANY OF THAT OUT OF POCKET. AND I WOULD NOT KNOW ANY WAY TO TRY TO SAY AN AMOUNT OF TO HOW MUCH IT COST TO DO IT, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IT WAS DONE FOR FREE. HOW DID Y'ALL DETERMINE THAT IF YOU. SO THE VALUATION WOULD BE THE CONTRACTOR WOULD HAVE TO PERMIT. AND THE CONTRACT WOULD COME WITH THE VALUATION BASED ON THE MATERIALS AND LABOR ON WHAT IT WOULD COST THEM TO BUILD THAT ADDITION. NOW, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION SINCE THIS IS NO LONGER PART OF THIS CASE, BUT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, HOW LONG THAT EDITION HAS BEEN THERE, AND I NEED TO DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATION ON IT AS A COOPERATION. OKAY. YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT SEPARATELY FROM THIS CASE. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION LATER ABOUT IT. OKAY, CARLOS, FOR THAT, AND I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR ENGINEER LETTER AND. YES, SIR. USUALLY IT'S AN AFTER THE FACT PERMIT AS IT'S NOT YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. A CONTRACTOR WOULD HAVE TO FULLY DETERMINE THE EVALUATION. AND THEN WE RUN IT THROUGH OUR ICC, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL EVALUATION, BUILDING EVALUATION FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S ROUGHLY LIKE A ONE 64 SQUARE FOOT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND GET THAT THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE THE VALUATION. OKAY. DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING DO YOU THINK OKAY, I GOT YOU, I GOT YOU. I WAS I WAS BLINDSIDED BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. WELL, AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL GOVERNMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SEGMENT OF GOVERNMENT. YES, SIR, SO TO SPEAK, TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE THE ISSUES THAT REMAIN AS IT RELATE TO THAT THING. AND I ASSUME AS TO THE ROOF. WHATEVER ELSE IS GOT TO BE DONE UNDER A PERMIT. SO [00:20:03] AT THIS POINT, THE ONLY THING WE'RE ADDRESSING IS THE ISSUE OF. BLIGHTED. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE. THE ROOF OF THE MOBILE HOME TO INCLUDE THE TRIM AROUND THE EDGE FASCIA BOARD OR WHATEVER YOU'RE CALLING THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. CHARLIE. HE DOES HAVE A PERMIT FOR THE ROOF. NO, NO, HE HAS AN APPLICATION IN PLACE. OKAY. IS SUBMITTED COMPLETE. WE'RE WAITING ON. ACTUALLY, I HAD I GOT THE AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. I DID GET THE THE HOMEOWNER. I'M CALLING A HOMEOWNERS PERMIT. I HOPE THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD TO USE FOR IT. BUT THE ONE. I IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN THE HALL. YES. AFTER THE LAST PERMIT FOR THE ROOF. OKAY. BECAUSE THE BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE ACTUAL, WITH THE BACK PART THAT WAS LIKE DONE LIKE SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO. WHO'S GOING TO DO THE ROOF? KIRTI KIRTI IS YES, HE WOULD BE THE ONE THAT HAD TO PULL THE PERMIT IN. RIGHT. PULL PERMIT. OKAY. AND HE YES, HE'S, HE'S GOT A NUMBER THAT STARTS WITH AN R. SO YEAH, HE CARL KURDI, I KNOW HE'S RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF SPRINGFIELD RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN HIS NAME ON THE SIGNS, BUT HIS COMPANY IS WHO I WAS GOING TO, WHO I HAD WANTED TO COME AND TO DO THE ROOF. BUT I GUESS WHERE MY CONFUSION WOULD BE IS MR. KURDI HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ADDITION IN THE FIRST PLACE. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. GOTCHA, GOTCHA. WE WANT SOMEBODY TO FIX THE ROOF AND THE RIGHT STUFF AROUND THE EDGE. SO. YES, SIR. AND ORIGINALLY I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE HIM PATCH UP SOME OF IT, BUT I DECIDED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND GET THEM TO REDO EVERYTHING, TAKE DOWN WHAT'S UP THERE, DON'T REUSE ANY OF IT. AND, AND LIKE I SAID, JUST FIX THE ONE SPOT IN THE FRONT AND THEN JUST HAVE IT LOOK UNIFORM AND NEAT GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND. OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE KURDI PULL THE PERMIT. OKAY, SO THAT'S SINCE IT'S NOT A WHAT OWNER OCCUPIED, IT'S GOT TO BE A CONTRACTOR THAT DOES IT. SO THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE THERE TO GET ALL OF THIS ROOFING STUFF FIXED. SO WHETHER HE'S RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF SPRINGFIELD OR NOT, HE NEEDS TO GET ON THE STICK AND GET YOU A PERMIT THERE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO I DO CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION YOU CAN ASK? I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER. THIS IS GETTING PRETTY COMPLICATED. WHEN I SPOKE TO MR. KURDI. WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, AND WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS THAT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, LIKE THE WHOLE ROOF ISN'T BEING REPLACED, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE FASCIA AND THE AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF THE WOODWORK UP FRONT. HE USED A WORD. I CAN'T THINK OF IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT HE SAID HE. HE WASN'T SURE IF IT EVEN NEEDED TO HAVE A PERMIT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T LIKE A LARGE CHUNK OF THE ROOF THAT WAS BEING WORKED ON, YOU BETTER ASSUME IT NEEDS A PERMIT. OKAY? OKAY. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET ALL THIS STRAIGHT. AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD, I'M GOING TO INCLUDE MR. KELLY'S PHOTOGRAPHS THERE. THREE PHOTOGRAPHS OF HIS HOUSE. I'M GOING TO LABEL THOSE ONE, TWO AND THREE, AND THEY'LL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT I'VE HEARD AND THE. PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I'VE SEEN PROVIDED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHS PROVIDED BY MR. KELLY, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 3120 EAST 13TH COURT, IS WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, BAY COUNTY, AND THEREFORE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 17 OF THE CODE. NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT. HE HAS BEEN. HE HAS BEEN IN ATTENDANCE AND HAS BEEN AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY AND ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ISSUES INVOLVED. THERE IS A VIOLATION OF 1702 IN THE FORM OF A BLIGHTED MOBILE HOME, WITH ADDITIONS THAT. CONDITION MUST BE CORRECTED WITHIN 30 DAYS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. BY ADDRESSING THE BLIGHT CONDITIONS, BY SUBMITTING A DETAILED ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING TIME FRAMES OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO THE ROOF, FLASHING AND SOFFIT TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. THE ACTION PLANS GOT TO BE APPROVED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT PRIOR TO MAKING REPAIRS AND APPLYING FOR PERMITS. GOT TO APPLY FOR ALL THE PERMITS THROUGH THE BUILDER SERVICES. [00:25:11] NOW THIS IS TO INCLUDE A PERMIT FOR THE ADDITION THAT STRIKE THAT I'M GOING TO SAY I THOUGHT Y'ALL HAD SORT OF SAID THAT GOES TO ANOTHER PLACE. OKAY, ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS HAVE GOT TO BE COMPLETED AND THE BUILDERS ARE BY BUILDER SERVICES OR A DESIGNEE. THE REPAIRS HAVE GOT TO BE MADE IN ACCORD WITH THE PLAN AND THE STRUCTURAL REPORT. ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS HAVE GOT TO BE COMPLETED AND PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED FOR THE ORDERS TO BE DEEMED COMPLETE. IF THERE IS AT ANY TIME A. EITHER THE PERMITS EXPIRE OR THEY BECOME VOID FOR ANY REASON, IT WILL BE DEEMED A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THIS ORDER. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFIED OF PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AND. KEEP THEM. LIKE I SAID, POSTED AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE ABOVE ACTIONS FOR THE BLIGHTED STRUCTURE WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, THE RESPONDENT WILL BE FINED AN INITIAL FINE OF $200 AND A DAILY FINE OF $25, CONTINUING UNTIL THE PROPERTY IS BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. CONTACT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SCHEDULE AN INSPECTION AND VERIFY THAT ALL THE PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED. REPAIRS COMPLETED IN ORDER FOR THE FINES TO CEASE NONCOMPLIANCE WILL BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED AGAIN. IF YOU GET A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, BUT THEN YOU ALLOW IT TO EXPIRE OR HAVE IT BECOME VOID FOR ANY REASON. AT THAT TIME, THE COUNTY WILL COMMENCE THE $200 INITIAL FINE AND THE $25 DAILY FINE AS SET FORTH ABOVE, AND THOSE FINES WILL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. HERE IN BAY COUNTY, YOU GET YOUR PERMIT AND THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BREATHING ROOM, BUT YOU GOT TO GET YOUR PERMIT WITHIN THAT 30 DAYS. SO LIKE I SAID, TELL MR. KIRBY HE NEEDS TO GET ON THE STICK AND GET YOUR PERMIT. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE AT. AND THEN THEN YOU CAN ADDRESS THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THE BUILDER SERVICES PEOPLE ABOUT THE ADDITION TO YOUR ORDER. AND THEY'VE GOT A WAY TO DO WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL AN AFTER THE FACT KIND OF APPRAISAL OF THE SITUATION GETS YOU THE PERMIT THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT'S PRESENT IS ITEM E PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 52 SIX SUN WOOD ROAD, WHICH IS A HEARING FOR COMPLIANCE. AND INSPECTOR THORPE IS HERE TO PRESENT HIS. NEW ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING. INSPECTOR SCOTT THORPE. I'VE SUBMITTED MY CREDENTIALS FOR RECORD. ALL MY PHOTOS AND NOTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN ALSO SUBMITTED THIS CASE BEFORE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, BAY COUNTY, ON MARCH 12TH, 2026, AND WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO AND A FORM OF UNFIT, UNSAFE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, TRASHED VEHICLES, UNSCREENED UNUSED PERSONAL PROPERTY OVERGROWTH AND JUNK. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR AT THE HEARING PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT A CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. THESE ARE THE PHOTOGRAPHS. LAST INSPECTION BEFORE THE HEARING. IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS WAS THE SMALL ACCESSORY THAT WAS IN THE BACK THAT WAS DAMAGED BY THE TREE, ALONG WITH DEBRIS ON THE GROUND, THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED. THE RESPONDENT HAVE 30 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER. A FINE OF $250 WILL BE IMPOSED. ALL INCIDENTAL COSTS OF ENFORCEMENT SO CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE REAL PROPERTY ON WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. A COPY OF THE ORDER IS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT B AND CONTAINING THE CASE FILE, AND ON MARCH 4TH, 2026, THE PROPERTY OWNER DID APPLY FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT AND IT WAS ISSUED ON MARCH 25TH WITH AN EXPIRATION OF SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2026, AND FRIDAY WILL BE THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION'S FINAL. ON THAT. RUN THAT BY ME AGAIN. WHAT'S THAT? RIGHT. YOU SAID THIS FRIDAY, A FINAL INSPECTION HAS BEEN CALLED INTO THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION TO DO A FINAL AT. THE ACCESSORY IS GONE. THAT PILE WAS FROM MONDAY. RIGHT THERE IT IS. NOW, SINCE IN A DUMPSTER. I TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THERE'S HIS JUNK AND TRASH THAT WAS IN THE BACKYARD ON APRIL 13TH. INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED AND THE PROPERTY REMAINED IN VIOLATION. JUST SOME SMALL THINGS WERE STILL THERE. AND I'VE SPOKE TO MR. PETTIS SINCE MONDAY. HE ADVISED ME OF THE [00:30:01] FRIDAY INSPECTION. I LOOKED IT UP. IT IS ADVISED THAT THEY WILL BE GOING OUT THERE ON FRIDAY, AND THEN HE'S GOING TO GIVE ME A CALL WHEN THE REST OF IT IS ALL MOVED OUT OF THE WAY. SO FRIDAY YOU ANTICIPATE THE INSPECTION WILL SAY YAY OR NAY. RIGHT. AND I'LL I'LL MONDAY MORNING. I WILL CHECK UP ON THAT. MR. PETTIS AND I WILL GET TOGETHER NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL GET A FINAL ON THERE AND BRING IT BACK FOR A FINAL FOR YOU ALL, AS LONG AS HE IS, AS LONG AS I'M SATISFIED WITH THE ORDER THAT EVERYTHING'S GONE BACK IN FRONT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. PETTIS, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO FIND THAT BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE FORM OF TESTIMONY SAYING IN THE FORM OF EXHIBITS AND EVERYTHING, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE RESPONDENT HAS COMPLIED WITH THE ORDER RELATIVE TO GETTING A DEMO PERMIT. AND THAT DEMO PERMIT WILL GIVE HIM THROUGH OR UNTIL SEPTEMBER THE 25TH, 2026 TO. COMPLETE THE. DEMO PROCESS, AND THAT AFTER THAT TIME, WE'LL HAVE A COMPLIANCE HEARING RELATED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S DONE IN THE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A NONCOMPLIANCE ISSUE. WHEN DO WE HAVE AN IDEA SCHEDULE THAT WE'LL SCHEDULE A FINAL HEARING TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S IN COMPLIANCE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I DON'T USUALLY GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY. OKAY. IT'S A RARITY. USUALLY I HAVE TO GET THE PERMIT. IT'S A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT'S BEEN GOING FOR TWO WEEKS. IT'S GONE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S KEEP IT GOING. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM F AS IN FRANK PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 600 LIVE OAK LANE. SO A HEARING FOR COMPLIANCE AND. AGAIN, THIS CASE WENT BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR BAY COUNTY ON MARCH 12TH, 2026, AND WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE SECTION 17 DASH TWO AND FORM UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE, OVERGROWTH AND JUNK. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR AT THE HEARING. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY ARE INTRODUCED IN EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT A AND CONTAINED THE CASE FILE. LAST PHOTOS BEFORE THE LAST HEARING. DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME PRETTY BAD SHAPE OVERGROWTH THERE VEHICLE JUNK AND STUFF SCATTERED UPON THE PROPERTY, THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED. THE RESPONDENT HAVE SHALL HAVE A DEMOLITION PERMIT BY MARCH 16TH. A COPY OF THE ORDER IS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE. EXHIBIT B CONTAINED A CASE FILE AND ON MARCH 17TH THE DEMOLITION PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF RECORD. WITH THE EXPIRATION OF 17 SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026, COPY HEARING NOTICE WAS POSTED AT THE BAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER ON APRIL 1ST, 2026 AND ON APRIL 13TH, INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED AND STILL REMAIN IN VIOLATION. HOWEVER, THE STORAGE UNITS OUT THERE TO REMOVE THE REMAINING ITEMS BEFORE WORK IS STARTED, SO HE HAS TILL SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026 FOR TILL THE PERMIT EXPIRES. OKAY, BASED ON THE TEST. OH, EXCUSE ME. YOU DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, MR. CURTIS? NO, SIR, I JUST WE HAVE BEEN MAKING SOME PROGRESS WITH GETTING THINGS OUT AND TAKEN CARE OF, SO. RIGHT. APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THE PERMIT LIKE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO. AND THAT WE WILL GIVE YOU UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THAT, WHICH IS WHAT, SIX MONTHS OFF. AND THEN WE'LL CHECK AND MAKE SURE YOU GOT EVERYTHING, ALL YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW BY THEN. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE PRESENT WE HAVE TWO TELEPHONE CALLS. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I'LL TAKE THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM A608 PLANTATION DRIVE. IF IT'S CLEAN, IT'S ALSO A. NO. I'M SORRY. YOU CONTINUED WITH. SO IT WILL BE A FIRST HEARING. YOU DON'T HAVE IN THAT TRUST AND. THEIR PARENTS HAVE. AND THE OPTIONS ON THE TRUST AND CONTINUATION. LEVEL TRUST. AND I THINK WE NEED THEIR PROPERTY. OH, OKAY. AND SHE HAS ACCESS. SHE HAS THEM. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. YES. SHE'S NOT BAD. I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEM. OKAY. [00:35:10] NICELY INTRODUCE HIM TO. YOU. DON'T LIKE SURPRISES? YEAH. ALSO. HELLO, THIS IS JODY WITH THE BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. CAN I PLEASE SPEAK WITH JACQUELINE DORVAL? THIS IS SHE. MISS DORVAL, I NEED TO GO AHEAD AND SWEAR YOU IN. OKAY. AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. AND CAN I GET A GOOD MAILING ADDRESS FOR YOU? SURE. 3372 PEACHTREE ROAD, NORTHEAST. UNIT 612. ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30326. MAGISTRATE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE GOING TO SPEAK NEXT. OKAY. MISS DORVAL, THIS IS BILL LEWIS. I'M THE HEARING OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'LL HEAR FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE, AND THEN YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK AND OFFER ANY TESTIMONY THAT YOU WANT TO OFFER AT THAT POINT. NO. OKAY. IF ANY POINT IN THE HEARING YOU CANNOT HEAR THE WITNESS AS HE TESTIFIES, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE LET US KNOW IMMEDIATELY. JUST INTERRUPT AND SAY, HEY, I CAN'T HEAR AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO REWORK IT. WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE YOU'RE HEARING EVERYTHING, OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HEY, MISS NORVILLE, THIS IS ROBERT CLARKSON. HELLO. I'M ROBERT CLARKSON. BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT SUBMITTED. THE PHOTO WE'RE SHOWING NOW TO THE MAGISTRATE. JUST JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. THIS HOUSE IS UP THERE ON PLANTATION DRIVE AND THE CALLAWAY AREA. IT WAS A TURN OF THE UNFIT. UNSAFE? THIS WAS A PHOTO TAKEN BACK ON MAY 28TH. SUBMITTED OVERGROWTH AND UNSECURED DOOR HAD AN UNSECURED POLE THAT THEY HAD THEY HAD SECURED PRIOR TO THE HEARING. CHIEF TAKING ALL THE STEPS NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BROTHER PASSED AWAY AND THIS WAS IN A TRUST. AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME IF SHE WAS ON THE TRUST TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY. SO I DID AN INSPECTION PRIOR TO TODAY'S HEARING. CAREFUL, THERE'S A LOT OF PHOTOS IN THIS. I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY STILL REMAINS IN VIOLATION. 13 VIOLATION OVERGROWTHS COME BACK. THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS OF TRANSIT ACTIVITY AND THE DOOR'S IS WAS NOT YOUR. I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THAT ON ALL OF HER TO TRY TO SECURE THE PROPERTY ON THE ONE L HADN'T BEEN SECURED YET, BUT PRIOR TO THE 13TH WE DID SPEAK ON THE 19TH MEETING, MR. HALL, WHERE SHE WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT SHE IS ON THE TRUSTEE PAPERWORK. I THINK SINCE OUR CONVERSATION SHE SPOKE TO AN ATTORNEY AND WAS CONFIDENT THAT SHE HAS THE LEGAL RIGHTS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROPERTY. AN EMAIL EXCHANGE TODAY, SHE HAD A CONTRACTOR GO OUT THERE AND TAKE CARE OF THE GRASS AND TO SECURE THE PROPERTY. I THINK YOU KNOW THE WORDS IN HER MOUTH. SHE CAN ALSO SPEAK FOR HERSELF, BUT IN THE TEXT MESSAGING OR EMAIL EXCHANGE THAT LOOKING AT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND OR JUST TRYING TO SELL OFF THE PROPERTY, OR MIGHT EVEN HAVE A COUNTY. DEMO IT. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR, RIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MISS DORVAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CLARKSON, OR IF NOT, DO YOU WANT TO JUST TELL US WHERE YOU STAND AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? SO I IT I ACTUALLY JUST GOT A COUPLE TEXT MESSAGES FROM THE CONTRACTOR AND HE DID SECURE THE DOOR, CHANGE THE FRONT LOCKED DOOR LOCK AND MOW THE LAWN. SO THAT'S DONE. AND I DID EMAIL THE PICTURES OF THAT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, LIKE RIGHT BEFORE HE CALLED ME. AND I AM A PARENT, I'M TRYING TO GET THE FUNDS SO THAT I CAN HIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FOR THE HOUSE. AND I AM IN CONTACT WITH THE REAL ESTATE AGENT AS WELL TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO QUICKLY WITH THE HOUSE. AND IF I GET THOSE TWO [00:40:04] IN TANDEM SO THAT EITHER, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE IT BULLDOZED OR, OR SOLD OFF AND THE NEW OWNER CAN, IT'LL BE STIPULATED TO THEM THAT THEY DO NEED TO, TO MOVE IMMEDIATELY ON THE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITH THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S ALL I REALLY ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. MR. CLARKSON HAS SHOWN ME THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT HE HAS RECEIVED IN CONNECTION WITH THIS. I'D ASK THAT HE PRINT THOSE OFF AND PUT THOSE IN THE RECORD, SO WE'LL HAVE COPIES OF THOSE. ALL RIGHT. BASED ON THE YOU SAY THAT OR MR. CLARKSON INDICATED YOU HAD SPOKEN WITH AN ATTORNEY, AND THE ATTORNEY SAYS THAT YOU ARE IN FACT, A PART OF THE TRUST AND THAT THEREFORE, YES, YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE OPTION TO MOVE ON THIS. YES. YEAH. I SENT HER ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT I FOUND, AND SHE DID THE TITLE SEARCH AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM ABLE TO SELL THE HOME OR, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CONTROL OVER THE HOME. AND I, AS SOON AS I RECEIVED THAT, I DID CALL MR. CLARKSON ABOUT THAT. AND SO. ALL RIGHT. AND SO AGAIN, LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY. YOU HAVE CONTACTED A REAL ESTATE AGENT TO SEE ABOUT A SALE ON THE PROPERTY, EITHER AS IS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. YES. OKAY. AND SHE'LL BE GOING OUT ON SATURDAY, I BELIEVE IS HER EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT THERE. OKAY. AND THEN I DO HAVE THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE PEOPLE CONTACTING ME TO BUY THE HOME AS WELL. SO THERE ARE INTERESTED PARTIES IN THAT. SO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEN IN THE FORM OF PHOTOGRAPHS, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION LOCATED AT 608 PLANTATION DRIVE, IS WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY AND THEREFORE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 17 OF THE CODE. NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO THE RESPONDENT. SHE HAS APPEARED BY TELEPHONE AND HAS BEEN AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND OFFER TESTIMONY IN CONNECTION WITH THIS MATTER. THERE IS A VIOLATION OF 1702 IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT OR UNSAFE STRUCTURE. BASED ON THAT, I'M GOING TO. SAY THAT YOU WILL HAVE A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BY ADDRESSING THE UNFIT OR UNSAFE STRUCTURE IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. EITHER APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE UNFIT OR UNSAFE STRUCTURE, AND ANY AND ALL PROHIBITED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES MAY BE DEFINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND REMOVE THAT DEMOLITION DEBRIS FROM THE PREMISES OR REPAIR THAT STRUCTURE IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. SUBMIT A COMPLETE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE APPLICATION'S GOT TO INCLUDE A FULL STRUCTURAL REPORT AND A COMPLETE SET OF STRUCTURAL REPAIR DRAWINGS FROM A FLORIDA LICENSED AND REGISTERED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL. THAT'S GOT TO BE PROVIDED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. SUBMIT A DETAILED ACTION PLAN TO INCLUDE TIME FRAMES OUTLINING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS FOR THE STRUCTURES TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND ALL REQUIRED PERMITS, ENGINEERING PLANS, ETC. HAVE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE THE PERMITS WILL ISSUE. ALL PERMIT INSPECTIONS HAVE GOT TO BE COMPLETED BY BUILDER SERVICES STAFF OR A DESIGNEE. THOSE REPAIRS HAVE GOT TO BE MADE IN ACCORD WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND THE STRUCTURAL REPORT. ALL BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTIONS HAVE GOT TO BE COMPLETED AND PERMITS MUST BE FINALIZED IN ORDER FOR THE REPAIRS TO BE DEEMED COMPLETE. IF AT ANY TIME, THE REQUIRED PERMITS UNDER THIS ORDER EXPIRE, IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THIS ORDER. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP CODE ENFORCEMENT INFORMED OF PROGRESS OR DELAYS IN BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE ACTIONS WITHIN THE 30 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDER, I'M GOING TO REDUCE THAT TO A $250 FINE FROM 1000 WILL BE IMPOSED, AND THE FIVE WILL BECOME A LIEN ON THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL. LOCATED IN BAY COUNTY, NONCOMPLIANCE LAW SHALL BE DEEMED TO HAVE OCCURRED IF YOU GET EITHER A DEMO PERMIT OR A BUILDING [00:45:02] PERMIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET FORTH, AND THEN YOU ALLOW IT TO EXPIRE OR HAVE IT CANCELED, OR IT BECOMES VOID FOR ANY REASON. THAT ALSO WILL BE DEEMED A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THIS ORDER. AS YOU AS YOU'RE DEALING WITH YOUR PEOPLE, YOUR, YOUR REAL ESTATE PERSON, OR THIS WHOEVER IT IS THAT'S MADE A OR CONTACTED YOU ABOUT BUYING THE PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING, MAKE SURE THAT YOU TELL THEM THAT THERE IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT ORDER IN PLACE REGARDING THIS. YES, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE LAW THAT YOU'VE GOT TO DISCLOSE THAT. SO THEY THEY NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THAT THEY MAY BE UNDER BY VIRTUE OF THIS. OKAY. AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HELP WORK WITH YOU ON THIS. AND I'M SURE MR. CLARKSON WILL KEEP US APPRIZED OF THE PROGRESS OR DELAYS THAT YOU SUFFER IN THIS MATTER. SO LIKE I SAID, KEEP KEEP THE BALL ROLLING AND LET'S LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. YEAH. WHEN IS THAT? WELL, THE NEXT ONE'S MAY 14TH. SO THAT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 30 DAYS FROM NOW. OKAY, SO AFTER THAT, IT'LL BE JUNE 11TH. JUNE 11TH IS A, WHAT WE CALL A COMPLIANCE HEARING. AND WE'LL SEE IF WE'VE GOT IT RESOLVED BY THEN. OKAY. AT 1:00. AND IT WILL BE HERE IN THIS SAME THING. AGAIN, YOU CAN APPEAR BY PHONE IF YOU WANT TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. HAVE A GOOD ONE. TAKE CARE. ALL RIGHT. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PHONE CALL IS ITEM I, PROPERTY ADDRESS, 7406 MAUGANSVILLE ROAD. SO I DON'T HAVE TO SCRAMBLE. THANK YOU FOR CALLING. GUIDOTTI BURGER. PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT A PORTION OF OUR PRACTICE INCLUDES THE COLLECTION OF DEBT AND ANY INFORMATION MAY BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. IF YOU KNOW YOUR PARTY'S EXTENSION, YOU MAY DIAL IT AT ANY TIME. THANK YOU FOR CALLING. CHRISTOPHER HALLOWELL. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHRISTOPHER HALLIWELL WITH THE BAY COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. YOU'RE CURRENTLY IN A MAGISTRATE HEARING, AND THE MAGISTRATE HAS. OKAY, SIR, MY NAME IS BILL LEWIS. I'M THE SPECIAL THE HEARING OFFICER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO HEAR THIS PARTICULAR CASE. I'M GOING TO LET CODE ENFORCEMENT TESTIFY AS TO THEIR FINDINGS AND THE STATUS OF THE CASE. YOU WILL BE AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT SOME REMARKS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE AFTER THAT, YOU CAN DO THAT. LET ME GET YOU TO PROVIDE YOUR BAR NUMBER RIGHT NOW. 1143440. IT BROKE UP, SIR. COULD YOU REPEAT IT? YES, 114340. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND. YOU'RE THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE BANK IN THIS MATTER? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. WHAT IS THE STATUS? I ASSUME THAT YOU ALL ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EITHER FORECLOSING OR YOU'VE ALREADY GOT IT. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT CASE? WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FORECLOSURE. THE FORECLOSURE CASE WAS FILED ON NOVEMBER 25TH OF 2025. THE DEFENDANT BORROWER HAS RECENTLY FILED AN ANSWER, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY PENDING OR WAITING FOR THE ANSWER PERIOD TO EXPIRE TO BE ABLE TO FILE A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, WE WOULD NEED, [00:50:08] FROM THE DATE OF FILING, THE EARLIEST HEARING DATE THAT WE COULD GET WOULD BE 50 DAYS FROM THE FILING DATE OF THE MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT. AND THEN TYPICALLY THE SOONEST FORECLOSURE SALE DATE WOULD BE 45 DAYS THEREAFTER. SO THAT'S 95, 2100 OR 120 DAYS MINIMUM, MORE REALISTIC TIME PERIOD, PROBABLY 100 OR BETWEEN 150 AND 160 DAYS FROM TODAY TO THROUGH A POTENTIAL SALE DATE. J. ACTUALLY, I CALL IT 180 DAYS JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN CASE THERE ARE ANY DELAYS IN OBTAINING OR GETTING A HEARING DATE OR OTHERWISE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SIR. YES. WHAT BANK ARE YOU THE ATTORNEY FOR? YES, I'M THE ATTORNEY. THE CURRENT ASK OF ME IS ON THIS FILE. OKAY. AND WHAT'S A GOOD ADDRESS FOR ME? TO SEND YOU AN ORDER? TO SEND YOU WHAT? WHAT IS A GOOD MAILING ADDRESS FOR ME TO SEND THE ORDER TO? YES. SO FIRST, THE CURRENT MORTGAGEE IS ROCKET MORTGAGE BY SUCCESSOR TO NATIONSTAR MORTGAGE. AND YOU CAN SEND THE ORDER TO OUR MIAMI OFFICE, WHICH IS LOCATED AT ONE ZERO 800 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, SUITE 201, MIAMI, FLORIDA 33161. AND I AM WITH THE LAW OFFICE OF GUIDOTTI BERGER, WHICH IS G H I'D AS IN DAVID, O T AS IN TOM, T AS IN TOM I GUIDOTTI BERGER B E R G E R L L P. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CALL ON CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THIS POINT TO OFFER THEIR TESTIMONY. AS A MATTER, WE'LL PROBABLY BE SEEING EXHIBITS ALONG THE THIS FILE TO CHRIS HUBBARD COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. THE CASE WENT BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR BAY COUNTY ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2026, AND WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE SECTION 17 TWO PRECIPITATIONS IN THE FORM OF AN UNFIT SUBJECT STRUCTURE. A LIGHTED MOBILE HOMES.COM CRASH. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR AT THE HEARING. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY WERE INTRODUCED AND EVIDENCE IT CONTAINED THE CASE FILES. MAGISTRATE ORDERS THAT RESPONDED HAD 60 DAYS WITH THE ORDER. THESE ARE THE MATERIALS SITUATED RIGHT HERE. PHOTOGRAPHS. IF I WERE TO ORDER OR FIND $100 WOULD BE IMPOSED. ALL THE DENTAL COSTS ARE PROPORTIONATE TO THE PROPERTY WHICH TIES IN WITH THE PROTOCOL. HOW TO RESPOND. AFTER THE ORDER WAS INTRODUCED IN FEBRUARY, IT WAS IN THE CASE FILE. APRIL. 17.5. AND DOLLARS AND AND 78 ON TRACK. SCATTERED ABOUT THE PROPERTY WITH. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE STRUCTURE PROGRAM AND THE PROGRAM UPDATES. AND THEY DO NOT INTERACT WITH 470. CONSOLIDATION EVERY DAY OF YOUR PERIOD. AND I JUST WANTED TO. RECORD. OKAY. HAVE YOU HAD ANY FURTHER CONTACT WITH THE THE THE PRESENT OWNER, MISS CREAL OR. NO, SIR, NOT YET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF I CAN ADD. LATER. IT WAS TUESDAY, WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE PROPERTY PRESERVATION GROUP ASKING WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. I EMAILED THEM A COPY OF YOUR ORDER AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE HEARING. AND THEY ADHERE TO THE TELEPHONE. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S HOW THE ATTORNEY GOT CONTACT US. YES. OKAY. NOW THAT'S THAT IS A COMPANY AND HIRED BY THE MORTGAGE HOLDER THAT KEEPS THE PROPERTY UP. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? YES. I'M NOT SURE. I WAS HAVING [00:55:11] A LITTLE HARD TIME HEARING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS HE WAS LISTING OFF THE EXISTING OR REMAINING VIOLATIONS. IF I COULD JUST GET A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THOSE SO I KNOW WHAT TO ADVISE MY CLIENT NEEDS TO BE REMAINS TO BE REMEDIED. WELL, THERE IS AN UNFIT OR UNSAFE STRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR TORN DOWN, FOR ONE THING. AND THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF JUNK IN THE YARD THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. AND THE MOBILE HOME NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AS FAR AS THE BLIGHTED, BLIGHTED CONDITIONS, IT HAS SOME BOARDED WINDOWS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED, BUT PERMITS NEED TO BE PULLED TO DO THAT. AND YOU THEY CAN'T PULL A PERMIT IF THEY'RE NOT THE OWNER. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE? LOOKS LIKE A GARAGE OR STORE SHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE ROOF IS CAVED IN. OKAY, SO IT'S NOT A PART OF THE ACTUAL RESIDENCE. IT IS NOT OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ASKING FROM YOUR GENERAL OPINION AND OBSERVATION, DOES IT LOOK LIKE THE MOBILE HOME CAN BE REPAIRED OR IS IT IN SUCH A CONDITION THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE HAULED OFF? WELL, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE INSIDE, SO ALL WE KNOW IS THERE'S TWO TWO WINDOWS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED. OTHER THAN THAT, OKAY, THE MOBILE HOME HAS SOME WINDOW REPAIRS. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT LOOKS PRETTY ROUGH, I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. BUT THAT'S NOT A YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR OR A MOBILE HOME REPAIR PERSON, BUT IT, IT LOOKS PRETTY ROUGH. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S. THERE'S A LOT OF JUNK IN THE YARD THAT PROBABLY ADDS TO MY EVALUATION OF LOOKING ROUGH. SO. UNDERSTOOD. AND AS FAR AS THE JUNKET IS THIS, YOU KNOW, TRASH OR SOME SORT OF EQUIPMENT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A STOVE OR SOMETHING OUT IN THE FRONT YARD, AND THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF I CAN'T TELL WHAT IT IS THAT'S ON THE DECK. AND THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL SCATTERED DEBRIS OUT IN THE YARD. MR. HUBBARD, YOU ADD TO IT, YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, I HAVE IT. IT'S JUST RANDOM TRASH SCATTERED ABOUT. I THINK THERE'S SOME CAR BATTERIES. STOVE OR DISHWASHER? NO GRILL, JUST SOME. THERE'S A WINDOW SITTING UP AGAINST THE HOUSE. JUST SOME RANDOM STUFF SCATTERED ABOUT THE YARD ALL OVER THE PROPERTY. AND WE CAN, WE CAN SEND HIM THESE PHOTOS. TYPICALLY WE DO, BUT WE DIDN'T GET HIM UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE KNOWING HE WAS GOING TO APPEAR. SO DO YOU HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT THE CLERK CAN? UTILIZE TO SEND YOU THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE'VE GOT? YEAH, SO I'VE BEEN IN EMAIL COMMUNICATION WITH JODI AND THE LAST NAME. OKAY. SHE'S SENDING IT TO YOU NOW. SHE HAD IT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT. KAREN. YES. SO SHE'LL SEND YOU THE STUFF SO YOU CAN GET A, AN EVALUATION OF. BUT LET ME GIVE YOU MY. GIVE YOU WHAT? I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I WAS JUST I HAVE BEEN IN EMAIL CONTACT WITH JODIE CROSBY AND REALLY, THAT'S A THAT'S WHO'S HERE IN THE HEARINGS WITH US. MISS CROSBY'S HERE. OH, OKAY. SHE SHE'S GOT YOUR ADDRESS. SHE'S GOT MY EMAIL ADDRESS. SHE'S GOING TO SEND YOU ALL THESE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING. SO YOU CAN EVALUATE THAT. BUT ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST AS FAR AS FURTHER ENFORCEMENT ACTION, IS THERE A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE WHICH THE CITY OR COUNTY WILL ACT ON ITS OWN TO REMOVE OR, YOU KNOW, REMOVE THE DEBRIS OR OR UNSAFE OR DEMOLISH THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE? WELL, I, I'M ABOUT TO, I GUESS YOU'D SAY, RULE AGAINST YOU, SO TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS A VIOLATION AND THAT THERE IS. THE. FACT THAT IT WAS NOT [01:00:11] CORRECTED IN A TIMELY FASHION, THAT THE COUNTIES AREN'T GOING TO BE AUTHORIZED TO DO IT. NOW. THEY. WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD? BECAUSE Y'ALL GOT TO DO A BID AND ALL OF THAT JAZZ. YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU DOING ASBESTOS ON? OKAY, SO THE. THE. NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. AND THEN OF COURSE. YEAH. SO IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE THE END OF MAY BEFORE WE WOULD RECEIVE. OKAY. AT THE END OF APRIL. AND THEN 30 DAYS FROM TODAY, WE WILL. 1982. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE END OF MAY IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AS FAR AS ACTUALLY DOING THE CLEANUP. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO THEY'LL DO A PRE BID. AND DO Y'ALL SEND THAT THAT INFORMATION OUT. WE CAN IF THEY REQUEST IT. OKAY. YEAH. LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEND THEM THAT INFORMATION THAT IT'S GOING TO COST X DOLLARS TO DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND SO. THAT'LL, THAT'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO DO IT THROUGH THESE PEOPLE THAT MAINTAIN THE PREMISES OR NOT, BUT. WE'LL GO FROM THERE. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT AS FAR AS THE BLIGHTED CONDITIONS, THAT WOULD WE WOULDN'T CORRECT THAT. THAT WOULD BE ONGOING. FINE. OKAY. LOOKS LIKE THE OVERGROWTH. SO I HOPE WE DON'T COME BACK WITH ANOTHER OVERGROWTH CASE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? NO OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT WOULD BE, SINCE THEY HAVE FILED AN ANSWER AND AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO CONTEST THE FORECLOSURE CASE, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY COULD DELAY OUR ABILITY TO GET JUDGMENT IN A FORECLOSURE SALE DATE. IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, THEY COULD APPEAL. SO I WILL I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND OVER ALL THE THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALONG WITH THE ORDER FROM THE DATE TODAY, AND SPEAK WITH MY CLIENT TO SEE WHAT IF YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE CASE. BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAD A CERTIFICATE OF TITLE. RIGHT. OKAY. SO, ALL RIGHT, BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT I'VE HEARD AND THE EXHIBITS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE FORM OF PHOTOGRAPHS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE RESPONDENT WAS GIVEN AN ADEQUATE TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE DEMONSTRATED TO EXIST ON THE PREMISES IN THE PREVIOUS HEARING, AND THAT BASED ON THE NEW PHOTOGRAPHS, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THOSE VIOLATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN CORRECTED. THEREFORE, I'M GOING TO AUTHORIZE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF OR CONTRACTOR HIRED BY THE COUNTY TO ENTER UPON THE PREMISES AND ABATE ANY AND ALL VIOLATIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE PREVIOUS ORDER THAT ARE FOUND TO EXIST AT THE TIME OF ENTRY UPON THE PREMISES, THAT THE COST RELATED TO THE ABATEMENT PROCESS, AS WELL AS ANY FINES PREVIOUSLY IMPOSED, WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF A FINAL HEARING AND THE ENTRY OF AN APPROPRIATE ORDER RELATED TO THE SAME UPON THE RECORDING OF THAT ORDER IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BAY COUNTY, THE COST LEVIED AGAINST THE RESPONDENT WILL CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE LAND ON WHICH THE VIOLATIONS OCCURRED, AND AGAINST ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS ENTITLED TO COLLECT THESE COSTS BY VIRTUE OF THE UNIFORM ASSESSMENT COLLECTION ACT AND CHAPTER 21 OF THE CODE. SHE'LL SEND YOU A COPY OF THIS ORDER AND COPY THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, AND Y'ALL CAN GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY, I GUESS, IS THE WAY TO PUT IT. UNDERSTOOD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO [01:05:06] JUST THANK THIS BOARD FOR PROVIDING US A NOTICE AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENT TODAY. ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP AND YOU WANT TO APPEAR BY PHONE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT AGAIN. I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT LEON HEARING, I'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO ADVISE MY CLIENT WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE. OKAY. WELL, WHEN THEY GET A BID, THEY'LL THEY'LL SEND YOU THAT TOO. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU AS WELL. TAKE CARE. BYE BYE BYE. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE PHONE CALLS. YES. SO WE WILL START BACK AT THE TOP. LETTER C PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 7908 BRANDON ROAD. THIS IS A VERBAL REPORT. THERE IS NO WRITTEN REPORT AS. THE PROPERTY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR ORDER LAST MONTH. THIS IS JUST TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS. INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED AND WE HAVE REMOVED. TO A NEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. WE ONLY HAD THE ONE, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE GONE. SO HE COMPLIED WITH YOUR ORDER. AND WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU FIND THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOW IN COMPLIANCE. OKAY. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT I'VE HEARD AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS I'VE SEEN INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7908 BRANDON ROAD IN PANAMA CITY, WAS. PREVIOUSLY FOUND TO BE INVALID OR THERE WAS A VIOLATION THERE, AND THAT AS OF TODAY'S DATE, THE VIOLATION HAS BEEN ABATED AND THE PROPERTY IS NOW INTO COMPLIANCE. CASE CLOSED. ITEM B PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 8931 MERLIN DRIVE AND SECTOR. THORPE IS HERE TO TESTIFY ON THIS HEARING FOR COMPLIANCE. AGAIN, INSPECTOR THORPE, THIS CASE WENT BEFORE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. BAY COUNTY ON MARCH 12TH, 2026, WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION BAY COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO IN THE FORM OF AN UNSAFE MOBILE HOME. JUNK ON SCREEN, UNUSED PERSONAL PROPERTY AND UNSECURED SWIMMING POOL. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR, AS WELL AS HIS CONTRACTOR TIM CASTLE, AT THE HEARING. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE EXHIBIT A AND CONTAINED IN A CASE FILE. SEE HERE. A MOBILE HOME HAD A ROOF PUT ON NO PERMITS. PART OF THE ROOF IN THE BACK WAS MISSING. DECK WAS PUT ON THERE, ATTACHED DIRECTLY TO THE FRONT OF THE MOBILE HOME, BLENDED IN WITH THE ROOF. NO PERMITS AND THEN THE SHEETING OBVIOUSLY ROTTED ALL AROUND. BOTTOM PLATE WALL WALL FRAMING WAS ALSO ROTTED. NEW WINDOWS INSTALLED ACROSS THE FRONT. THE END WINDOW WAS STILL BROKEN. THE BACK STILL HAS A HOLE REMAINING WITH SOME ROOF PANELS MISSING. AND THERE'S THE KOI POND OR POOL. THE METRIC CONTINUED THIS CASE TO APRIL 16TH, 2026 AT 1 P.M. COPY OF THE ORDER IS INTRODUCED IN EVIDENCE EXHIBIT B CONTAINED IN CASE FILE. THIS WAS CONTINUED BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR CAME IN WITH PLANS. I REVIEWED THEM. EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD. HOWEVER, THEY HAD A FEW THINGS THAT HAD TO CHANGE ON IT. I'VE HEARD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND AS OF ABOUT AN HOUR AGO, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED OR APPLIED FOR COPY. NO HEARING WAS POSTED AT BAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER AND ON APRIL 1ST, 2026 AND ON APRIL 13TH, INSPECTION COMPLETED AND PROPERTY REMAINED IN VIOLATION. PRETTY MUCH LOOKS THE SAME. A LITTLE BIT OF JUNK IN THE FRONT WAS REMOVED AND KIND OF SCATTERED OVER TO THE SIDE. AND I GOT A FEW PHOTOS WINDOWS STILL MISSING ON THAT SIDE. IT'S MOBILE HOMES FULL OF JUNK AND TRASH. STILL DAMAGE ON THE BACK. TWO LARGE PILES OF DEBRIS NOW, ONE IN THE FRONT AS WELL, AND THE POOL STILL REMAINS THE SAME. THERE YOU GO. JUST SOME OVERGROWTH WAS REMOVED AROUND THE POOL AS THE STATE OF HEARING. LIKE I STATED, NO ENGINEERING APPLICATION FOR PERMITS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND NO COMMUNICATION. ALL RIGHT. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY I'VE HEARD AND THE EXHIBITS I'VE SEEN INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AND FORMAL PHOTOGRAPHS, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE RESPONDENT WAS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN ADEQUATE TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATIONS THAT EXIST ON THE PROPERTY. AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD, THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 8931 MERLIN DRIVE IN YOUNGSTOWN. IT'S IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY [01:10:09] COUNTY AND THEREFORE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE. THEIR. NONCOMPLIANCE. MERITS THE COUNTY BEING AUTHORIZED TO ENTER UPON THE PREMISES BY STAFF OR A CONTRACTOR HIRED BY THE COUNTY TO ABATE ANY AND ALL VIOLATIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORDER AND BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. THE. COST RELATED TO THAT ABATEMENT, AS WELL AS ANY FINES IMPOSED, WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF A FINAL HEARING, TO BE SCHEDULED AT A LATER DATE. UPON THE RECORDING OF THIS ORDER AND THE RECORDS OF BAY COUNTY, THE COST LEVIED AGAINST THE RESPONDENT TO INCLUDE THE FINE WILL BE A LEAN ON THE LAND ON WHICH THE VIOLATIONS OCCURRED, AND ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAY ASSESS THESE COSTS BY VIRTUE OF THE UNIFORM ASSESSMENT COLLECTION ACT IN CHAPTER 21 OF THE CODE. OKAY, ITEM G AS IN GEORGE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 84413 ROAD. INSPECTOR THORPE IS HERE TO TESTIFY. THIS IS A HEARING FOR COMPLIANCE. SO THERE IT IS. IN THE. WHICH ONE IS IT? 8114. OR IS IT 84418441. OKAY. SO THAT'S INCORRECT. IT'S A TYPO ON THE ON THE TOP ONE. THE BOTTOM ONE IS CORRECT. THE NEXT ONE IS CORRECT. OKAY, I SEE IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AFTERNOON AGAIN, MAGISTRATE INSPECTOR THORPE THIS CASE WENT FOR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OF BAY COUNTY ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2026, WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE 17 DASH TWO IN THE FORM OF UNFIT, UNSAFE STRUCTURE. THE RESPONDENT, ROSE LEONARD DID LESNAR SORRY, DID APPEAR AT THE HEARING. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT A AND CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. PRETTY MUCH ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS CAR LIFTS IN THERE. SOME CARS. THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED THAT THE RESPONDENT HAVE 60 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH ORDER OR A FINE OF $100 BE IMPOSED. ALL INCIDENTAL COSTS OF ENFORCEMENT SHALL CONSTITUTE A LIEN AGAINST THE REAL PROPERTY ON WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT. COPY OF THE ORDER IS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT B CONTAINING A CASE FILE AND ON MARCH 18TH, 2026, A PERMIT FOR A NEW 20 BY 30 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WAS ISSUED WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026. I BELIEVE TOOL TIME IS GOING TO INSTALL, REMOVE AND INSTALL A NEW GARAGE FOR HIM. COPY. NO HEARING WAS POSTED ON PROPERTY AND GOVERNMENT CENTER ON APRIL 1ST AND ON APRIL 6TH, 2026, INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED IN. THE PROPERTY STILL REMAINS THE SAME. THEY HAVEN'T STARTED WORK YET. SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE ASKING THAT THE MAGISTRATE CONTINUE THIS HEARING UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 18TH PERMIT IS FINAL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND IN THE CASE RELATED TO THE PARCEL LOCATED AT 8441 FREEZE ROAD IN PANAMA CITY, YOU'LL FIND THAT THAT PROPERTY IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BAY COUNTY. AND SO THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE THAT THE RECORDS. REFLECT THAT A PERMIT FOR A NEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WAS ISSUED, THIS PERMIT NUMBER WITH THE COMPLIANCE REPORT THAT HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE OF SEPTEMBER THE 18TH OF 2026. IN LIGHT OF THE ENTRY OR THE ISSUANCE OF THAT PERMIT, THIS MATTER WILL BE CONTINUED. ENDING THE PERMIT BEING FINALIZED OR EXPIRING OR BECOMING VOID FOR ANY OTHER REASON. THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ITEM H PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 1839 WEST 27TH STREET. SO A HEARING FOR COMPLIANCE. AND THAT'S CORP IS HERE TO TESTIFY. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, INSPECTOR THORPE. THIS CASE WENT BEFORE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. BAY COUNTY ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2026 WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF BAY COUNTY CODE SECTION 17 DASH TWO [01:15:01] AND FORM AN UNFIT, UNSAFE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, TRASH AND JUNK. THE RESPONDENT DID APPEAR AT THE HEARING PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT A CONTAINED IN THE CASE FILE. THE. THE VIOLATIONS. THE ACCESSORY IN THE BACK WITH THE DAMAGED ROOF TRUSSES AND AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION THERE WAS A LOT OF JUNK, TRASH AND EVERYTHING. THE MAGISTRATE ORDERED THAT THE RESPONDENT HAVE 60 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER, OR A FINE OF $500 BE IMPOSED. ALL INCIDENTAL COSTS OF ENFORCEMENT SO CONSTANTLY LIEN ON THE REAL PROPERTY IN WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND UPON ANY OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY RESPONDENT. A COPY OF ORDERS INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE AS EXHIBIT B CONTAINING THE CASE FILE. ON MARCH 25TH, 2026, A DEMOLITION PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2026. AND I DID SPEAK TO MISS SIMMONS YESTERDAY. SHE HAS REMOVED 330 YARD ROLL OFFS. THAT DUMPSTER IS NOW OFFICIALLY GONE AND THEY WILL START ON THE ACCESSORY. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE SOME DOWN, DUMP IT FOR THE AMNESTY DAY, AND THEN SHE'LL LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S DONE TO GO OVER THERE AND CHECK THE YARD OUT. BUT ALL THE JUNK IN THE BACK IS GONE. SHE HAS A FEW SEATS LEFT OF AN SUV THAT HAS TO BE REMOVED. THEN THEY'RE COMING TO PICK UP A COPY OF THE NOTICE OF HEARING WAS POSTED AT BAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER ON APRIL 1ST, 2026, AND ON APRIL 6TH, INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED AND THE ACCESSORIES STILL REMAINS. PROGRESS IS CONTINUING. OH. OKIE DOKIE. ALL RIGHT. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1839 WEST 27TH STREET IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, BAY COUNTY, SUBJECT TO THE DIVISIONS OF THE BAY COUNTY CODE THAT PREVIOUS ORDER WAS ENTERED IN THIS MATTER, AND THAT ON MARCH THE 25TH 26TH, A DEMOLITION PERMIT. AGAIN WITH THE NUMBER REFERENCED IN THE COMPLIANCE REPORT WAS ISSUED, AND THAT SHALL HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE OF SEPTEMBER THE 25TH OF 2026. NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN. POSTING AND. IN LIGHT OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE BY THE PROPERTY PRESENTLY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEMO PERMIT. THIS MATTER WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE DEMO PERMIT IS FINALIZED. IT EXPIRES OR BECOMES VOID FOR ANY OTHER REASON. WHETHER IT IS COMPLIANCE. WITH IT. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.