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IS THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 REGULAR MEETING OF THE BAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
CALL ROLL, PLEASE. MR. CHRISTIE HERE, MR. DAFFEN. YES, MA'AM. MR. CARTER. MR. HUNNICUTT. YES,
[B.Approval of Minutes (August 18, 2026)]
MA'AM. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. NOW, TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A SECOND. MR. CHRISTIE? YES, MA'AM. MR. DAFFEN. YES,[C.Announcements]
MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. ANNOUNCEMENTS. WAYNE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.DURING THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MET AND DISCUSSED A FEW ITEMS THAT HAD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE PAST. OF THOSE, THERE WAS LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE ON HIGHWAY 77 IN THE SANDHILLS AREA. THAT REQUEST WAS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND FROM R2 TO C THREE, A ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED. THERE WAS THE REQUEST TO ANOTHER LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE REQUEST ON WEST 30TH STREET. THAT WAS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND FROM R-1 ZONING TO C THREE, A ZONING THAT. THOSE REQUESTS WERE ALSO APPROVED WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED. AND THEN LASTLY, THE. THERE WAS A LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION ON TEN ACRE ROAD.
THAT REQUEST WAS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND FROM R2 TO C3A.
THOSE REQUESTS WERE DENIED BY THE BOARD THIS MORNING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. D AGENDA
[D.Agenda – Additions, Deletions, Changes and Acceptance]
ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CHANGES? YES. I JUST NEED A MOTION A SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE. AGENDA SECOND. MR. CHRISTIE. MR. DAFFIN. YES, MA'AM. MR. HUNNICUTT. YES,[E.Public Hearings (Swear in for quasi-judicial)]
MA'AM. MR. HARMON. YES, MA'AM. MOVE TO E PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE OUT IN THE SEATS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION, IT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL.YOU NEED TO STAND UP AND BE SWORN IF YOU'RE UNSURE, BUT YOU MIGHT JUST GO AHEAD AND BE BE SWORN IN. AND THEN ONCE YOU DO APPROACH THE PODIUM, YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND CONFIRM THAT YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER ONE. COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A QUASI JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING. PLVAR20260204. TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO ALLOW A 4/10 OF A FOOT REAR SETBACK ON A PROPERTY WITH SR TWO. SEASONAL RESORT COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 20641 FRONT BEACH ROAD, UNIT A IN UNINCORPORATED PANAMA CITY BEACH AREA. ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. NO. NONE FOR ME. NONE. STAFF PRESENTATION. WAYNE.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, THIS REQUEST IS A VARIANCE TO REQUEST THE REAR PROPERTY LINES BUILDING SETBACK WITHIN THE SR TWO ZONING DISTRICT BE DECREASED FROM TEN FEET TO 0.4FT. THAT PROJECT LOCATION IS 2641. FRONT BEACH ROAD, UNIT A. ON APRIL 7TH, 2026, THE BAY COUNTY BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION ISSUED THE PROPERTY OWNER A NOTICE OF VIOLATION REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION WITHOUT A COUNTY APPROVED BUILDING PERMIT. PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN BY THE BUILDING SAFETY DIVISION ON THAT SAME DAY INDICATED THAT THE ADDITION WAS FULLY CONSTRUCTED AS A RESULT OF THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION, A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION ON AUGUST 3RD, 2026 AND WAS UNABLE TO APPROVE AS THE ADDITION DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT. STAFF FEELS THAT THERE IS NO INFORMATION TO SUGGEST THAT A HARDSHIP IS PRESENT WHEN ANALYZING THE STANDARDS OF REVIEW. THERE IS NO INFORMATION PROVIDED TO SUGGEST THAT THE HARDSHIP INVOLVES THE LAND INVOLVED, RATHER THAN THE APPLICANT'S PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES. NOR IS THERE ANY INFORMATION PROVIDED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT A HARDSHIP IS UNIQUE TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY. WHILE THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA THAT APPEAR TO BE NON-CONFORMING WITH THE CURRENT SETBACKS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER PROPERTIES THAT APPEAR TO BE CONFORMING, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE REQUEST, IF APPROVED, WOULD MAKE A CURRENTLY EXISTING CONFORMING STRUCTURE NON-CONFORMING. ADDITIONALLY, AS THE. AS CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENT WAS COMPLETED WITHOUT AN APPROVED COUNTY BUILDING PERMIT, THE HARDSHIP IS THE RESULT OF THE APPLICANT'S OWN ACTIONS. IT'S THEREFORE RECOMMENDED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING, FIND THE PROPOSED VARIANCE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST BASED
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ON THE ATTACHED FINDINGS, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM.I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR WAYNE? NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU. WE MOVE NOW TO APPLICANT PRESENTATION. I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE ONE. THIS IS A TOWNHOUSE UNIT, RIGHT? IT'S A AND B, CORRECT. IT'S A A DUPLEX TWO ATTACHED UNITS. CORRECT.
OKAY. AND SO THE ONE ON THE B ISN'T ASKING FOR THIS. THIS IS JUST THE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE.
CORRECT. IT'S THE ONE. IT'S THE EAST SIDE THE A UNIT. THEY HAVE SEPARATE PARCEL NUMBERS AND SEPARATE OWNERS. OKAY OKAY. MOVE NOW TO APPLICANT PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK. MR. PORTER IS IT OKAY IF I GIVE THEM A HANDOUT? I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH FOR MR. PORTER TO HAVE ONE ALSO. YOU JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND CONFIRM YOU'VE BEEN SWORN.
OKAY. I'M. HI, I'M JENNIFER KOSHIN, AND I LIVE AT 2641 FRONT BEACH ROAD, UNIT A. I'M BRINGING WITH ME TODAY, ISAIAH MELVILLE, WHO WE HAVE WORKED WITH FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON SEVERAL PROJECTS. THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS IN 2021, WHERE WE DID A FULL EXTERIOR REMODEL OF BOTH OUR HOME AS WELL AS THE TAYLORS WHO OWN THE COMMON WALL NEXT DOOR. AND SO WE DID SIDING, WINDOWS, DOORS, STAIR TREADS, ALL OF THAT. SO ONCE WE HAD FINISHED THAT, THE HOME, IT WAS ORIGINALLY A 1998 HOUSE. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE. AND IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE PICTURES, GOOGLE PICTURES FROM WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE, IT'S COME A LONG WAY, BUT WE BOUGHT IT IN 2019, DID THAT RENOVATION IN 2021. AND AFTER THAT WAS DONE, WE ALWAYS KNEW WE WANTED A SUN DECK ON THE BACK. WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE. IT'S OUR SECONDARY HOME. MY 80 YEAR OLD MOTHER SPENDS A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE YEAR AT THE HOUSE AS WELL. WE GO OUT TO THE BEACH, WE SEE EVERYBODY GRILLING ON THEIR SUNDECK AND LOUNGING ON THEIR SUNDECK, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IN THE BACKYARD, IT'S SAND AND BURRS. TO ACCESS THAT SPACE, WE NEEDED TO HAVE A HARD SURFACE.
SO COMING UP WITH A PLAN WAS MORE CHALLENGING THAN WE EXPECTED BECAUSE EVERY HOME WITHIN EYES VIEW IS A SINGLE STORY OR MAIN LEVEL ACCESSIBLE HOME. SO THEIR SUN DECKS ARE ACCESSIBLE FROM THEIR BACK DOOR. WHEN WE WENT INTO THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS, THE HEIGHT OF OUR HOME, WHICH IS TEN FEET UP IN THE AIR TO TO ACCESS, TO STEP DOWN SO THAT WE DIDN'T BLOCK THE VIEW OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND TO BE MORE COMMENSURATE WITH OTHER PROPERTIES. I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE HOUSE REALLY QUICK. IS IT OKAY IF I JUST SHOW THEM THIS ONE? THIS IS OUR HOME POST REMODEL. THIS IS THIS HOUSE. THIS IS OUR HOUSE. HERE IS KIND OF A PANORAMIC PICTURES TOGETHER. SO YOU CAN SEE OUR ROOFLINE IS HIGH. OUR THIS IS OUR MAIN FLOOR. WE HAVE NOTHING UNDERNEATH. IT'S JUST A PARKING AREA. SO OUR MAIN HOME IS UP HERE. THESE HOUSES ALL ACCESS. THIS IS TO THE EAST. THIS IS TO THE LEFT INSTEAD OF HOUSE. AND THEN THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THAT. BUT THE HEIGHT OF OUR HOUSE PRESENTED A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE WERE KNOWING THE THE SETBACK, THERE WAS ONLY SEVEN FEET THAT WAS AVAILABLE BETWEEN OUR BACK DOOR AND THE THE SETBACK. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT BEING TEN FEET UP, SOMEHOW YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THE PROFILE A BIT. THE MORE STEPS YOU ADD, THE LESS USABLE DECK YOU GET. AND IT'S EXPONENTIAL. SO WE TRIED TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE BACK DOOR. WE LOOKED AT THE LINE OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES AND WHAT THEIR DECK LINES WERE, AND TRIED TO JUST ALIGN IT WITH THAT. ONE OF THE PROPERTIES TO OUR WELL, IT'S A THREE, IT'S A TRIPLEX, I GUESS, TO THE WEST GOES EVEN BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS IS THE VIEW. THIS IS THE BACK OF OUR HOME. THIS IS MISS BUD'S HOUSE. OUR NEIGHBOR IS A ONE STORY. THEY'VE GOT A PATIO THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO
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THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS ONE IS BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE. SO WE KIND OF JUST SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE PROPERTY LINE. WE'LL JUST GO KIND OF IN LINE WITH THIS. SO AS WE LOOK OUT OUR BACK PORCH, THIS IS THE WESTERN VIEW. THIS IS THE EASTERN VIEW. AND THAT WAS JUST BASICALLY FROM THE BACK AREA OF THE HOUSE. SO FOR US, IT, IT PRESENTED A CHALLENGE TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING TO STEP DOWN THAT'S USABLE FOR GRILLING, LOUNGING, WHATEVER, BUT WASN'T SO OBTRUSIVE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WHAT I GAVE YOU ARE THE PLANS THAT. WE HAD PRESENTED. AND YOU KNOW, I, MR. PORTER NOTED, WE MESSED UP AND DID NOT GET A COUNTY PERMIT.AND WE TAKE THAT. WE DID GET A PERMIT. WE GOT THE DEP PERMIT IN 2022, I THINK, AND COVID PRICES WERE ASTRONOMICAL, IF YOU REMEMBER, LUMBER PRICES, CONCRETE PRICES, ALL EVERYTHING WAS EXPENSIVE. SO WE WOULD HAVE DONE THIS BACK THEN AND PRESENTED ALL OF THIS TIME WENT ON FINALLY MORE REASONABLE. WE SAW A WINDOW AND UNFORTUNATELY WE DROPPED THE BALL ON IT. SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND EVERYTHING WE ARE PRESENTING IS AS THOUGH IT WAS PRE BUILD, PRE OUR SCREW UP. OUR HARDSHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT DECK. WE WILL MODIFY IF WE NEED TO MODIFY WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. BUT FROM THIS VIEW THERE IS NO DECK. WE'RE PRESENTING IT AS A CLEAN VARIANCE REQUEST. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE IT'S A TOP VIEW. IT'S A SQUARE DECK.
THERE'S THERE ARE SOME STEPS AND THEN YOU HAVE A FLAT SPACE. AND THEN THERE'S A SIDE VIEW THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, COLUMNS TO SUPPORT IT. IT'S GOT CONCRETE AT THE BOTTOM. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, I'M GOING TO HAVE ISAIAH TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE I AM NOT THE ENGINEER OR CONTRACTOR, BUT I ON THE NEXT PAGES, PAGES THREE AND FOUR IS THE BEFORE AND AFTER. AND, AND REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE IS JUST KIND OF SHOWING THERE'S A LINE THAT SHOWS WHERE THE DECK IS. SO THE PRE VIEW ON THE SURVEY AND THEN THE POST VIEW ON THE SURVEY BEFORE AND AFTER.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ULTIMATELY IN TERMS OF CONSIDERATIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORING HOMES WERE ALL AT GROUND LEVEL. THEY HAVE AN EASY ACCESS. THEY CAN WALK OUT THEIR BACK DOOR AND BE ON THEIR DECK, OUR DECK, WHEN WE COME OUT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STEP DOWN. AND IF WE HAD JUST DONE IT AND STAYED WITHIN THE SEVEN FEET, WE'D HAVE NO USABLE SPACE ONCE YOU DO THE STEPS. SO WHEN WE MADE THE I SHOWED YOU THE THE LINE, WE KIND OF JUST MADE IT GO IN LINE. THERE WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF THOUGHT AS TO WAS IT A ONE FOOT SETBACK, A TWO FOOT SETBACK? IT WAS MORE JUST WHERE DOES THIS KIND OF BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE. AND EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR HAS A SUN DECK AND THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY LINE OR EVEN BEYOND. AND I CAN SHOW YOU HERE, THIS IS OUR HOUSE BACK IN 2017, PRE PRE-RENOVATION X-RAY THAT WE DID. AND WE JUST KIND OF SEE THE VIEW. THIS IS THE NEW EYE TYPEKIT ONE THAT WAS OVER THE HOUSE, BUT THIS HOUSE IS STILL THERE. BUT SO THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY WHERE THEY WENT OVER THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DECKS HERE. THIS IS OUR OTHER NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST. AND THEY ARE THEY'RE OUR OUR DECK IS BASICALLY RIGHT IN HERE. SO I JUST THOUGHT VISUALLY THAT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAD THEM IN MIND WHEN WE WERE COMING UP AT THAT TIME. AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE BACK DOOR SO THAT MY MOM COULD GET ON IT. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CARE ABOUT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CARED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE GOING INTO THE DESIGN. AND THEN ALSO OUR NEIGHBOR, MISS BEVERLEY, THEY RENT YEAR ROUND AND WE WANTED TO GET SOME KIND OF SPACE THAT WAS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT. SO THAT RENTERS THERE, THEY DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS ALL KIND OF A COMMUNITY PROPERTY. WE WERE DISTINCTLY FOR A AND NOT FOR B, AND WE ASKED MISS BEVERLEY WHEN WE
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THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THIS, IF THEY WANTED US, BECAUSE WE MANAGED THEIR RENOVATION AS WELL. WHEN WE DID THE EXTERIOR, THEIR DEAR PEOPLE, WE TALK TO THEM REGULARLY. WE WISH THEY DIDN'T RENT, BUT THEY DO AND. AND WE WORK WITH THAT. AND THEY ARE WONDERFUL. THEY. THEY REALLY TRY TO ACCOMMODATE. IF EVER WE HAVE PEOPLE ON OUR PROPERTY OR UP ON OUR DECKS OR WHATEVER THEY, THEY, THEY TALK TO THEM, BUT THEY DID NOT WANT A SUN DECK BECAUSE THEY RENT AND THEY DIDN'T WANT THE ADDED EXPENSE. THIS IS A MONEY MAKING THING FOR THEM THAT THEY HAD DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS. BUT WE TALKED THROUGH THEM WITH THE DECK, WHAT THE DECK WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO DO ONE AND THEY HAD DECLINED AT THE TIME. SO ULTIMATELY WE CAME UP WITH PLANS THAT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE HEIGHT, WHICH WAS A HARDSHIP THAT NO ONE ELSE AROUND US HAS. IT'S VERY UNIQUE TO US. THE PLACEMENT OF OUR PROPERTY, WHICH WAS ONLY SEVEN FEET FROM THE STANDARD SETBACK AND BALANCED ALL OF THAT WITH NEIGHBORS AND USABILITY. SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL INFORMATION YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH, BUT FROM OUR VIEW, THE HARDSHIP IS THE HEIGHT AND PLACEMENT COMBINATION. THE VARIANCE REQUEST WAS NOT A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. IT WAS DUE TO THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY. WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE SETBACK, IT IS WHAT IT WAS. THE HOUSE IS A 1998 HOUSE AND WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT. SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BACKYARD SPACE AND GETTING THERE. WHAT PRESENTED THE CHALLENGE? WE ARE NOT LEANING ON THE FACT THAT WE SCREWED UP AND BUILT THE DECK. WE ARE LEANING ON THE HEIGHT AND THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD. GETTING ACCESSIBILITY TO THE FLAT DECK SPACE. AND I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER ITEMS, BUT THERE WAS ONE ITEM ABOUT ON THE SIXTH STANDARD THAT TALKED ABOUT CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING. I WASN'T SURE HOW THAT APPLIED REALLY TO THIS VARIANCE REQUEST BEING FOR A PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO CONSIDER THERE. SO IN CLOSING, WE HOPE THAT ALL THIS MAKES SENSE AND THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MODIFY TO MAKE IT SOMETHING WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE HERE, BUT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK? ANYONE ELSE IS HERE TO SPEAK? WHEN THE THE CURRENT SETBACKS, I MEAN, THE REAR OF THE HOUSE TO THE TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH DISTANCE? FORWARD FOR THE ATTACHED ADDITION TO THE HOME, IT WOULD BE A TEN FOOT REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. AND CURRENTLY THE REAR OF THE EXISTING HOUSE WITHOUT THE DECK IS. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN APPROXIMATION? 1313 IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS ON THE SURVEY? BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT WAS PROVIDED, IT. YES. YES. RIGHT AT 13FT. CORRECT. CAN'T PICK THAT UP. YEAH. I COULDN'T SEE THAT EITHER. GOOD JOB MICHAEL.MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, PLEASE. YEAH. SO. GREAT PRESENTATION. REALLY GOOD. THE THING FOR ME IS. IT'S NOT YOUR PROPERTY. IT'S GRANTED, THIS VARIANCE STARTS. WHERE DOES WHERE WHERE WOULD IT END FOR THIS BOARD? YEAH YEAH YEAH. WELL WE'LL ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TO YOU'LL GET IF YOU HAVE SOME OTHER THOUGHTS WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THEM AS WELL. OKAY. SO JUST TO MAKE MY THOUGHTS. SO I'M AN ARCHITECT AND I DEAL WITH THIS ALL THE TIME. AND IF THE HOUSE IS AT GROUND LEVEL AND IT WAS AND IT WAS A PATIO, IT WOULDN'T COME INTO PLAY. BUT ONCE IT GOES VERTICAL, IT'S CONSIDERED STRUCTURE. AND I DEAL WITH THIS AND I HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THAT SETBACK. IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS. EVEN IF YOU WERE TRYING TO LIKE A BUILD A, LET'S SAY ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR THE MAIN LEVEL, YOU WANTED A WALKWAY ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO GET DOWN TO WORK ON IT. THAT'S,
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THAT'S STRUCTURE AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE. BUT IF IT WAS DOWN AT GROUND LEVEL, YOU JUST WALK ALONG THE SIDE. SO WE I DEAL WITH THIS DAILY BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF GULF FRONT HOUSES. AND BUT SITTING ON THIS BOARD, I WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PRECEDENT IT SETS FOR THE NEXT PERSON, THE NEXT PERSON. AND, AND HONESTLY, THE HEIGHT THAT YOU BUILT AT LOOKING AT THE FINISHED PHOTOS, THE HOUSE TO THE EAST, IT DOES BLOCK THEIR VIEW LOOKING OUT TOWARDS THE WEST. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE AS WELL. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR HOUSE IS BUILT UP. IT WAS BUILT UP. IN WHAT YEAR DID YOU SAY 98. THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 98. YEAH. SO WHEN THEY BUILT IT UP IN 98 THEY PARKED BELOW IT. SO THEY INCREASED THEIR PARKING SO THEY CAN BUILD MORE BEDROOMS. SO THERE WAS A SOME THING THAT HAPPENED LONG BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT. BUT HAD THEY BUILT IT DOWN LOWER, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOT AS MANY PARKING. THEY PROBABLY COULDN'T PUT AS MANY BEDROOMS IN. SO THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AS, AS MORE OF AN ISSUE. SO WHOEVER BUILT IT ORIGINALLY KIND OF STARTED THIS. SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS THAT ONCE AGAIN, ONCE THIS ELEVATED IS CONSIDERED STRUCTURE. AND AM I CONCERNED FOR THE OTHER AS THE PRECEDENT WAS SET FOR OTHER PROPERTIES. AND I KNOW THAT THE ONES NEXT TO YOU, I SUSPECT THE ONE RIGHT TO THE WEST OR EAST OF YOU, WHEN THAT HOUSE GETS TORN DOWN AND BUILT BACK, THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME THING AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THEY WON'T BE GRANDFATHERED UNLESS THEY LEAVE THAT DECK, AND THEY'LL BE BUILDING UP FOR FEMA AND BUILDING UP FOR DEP AND UP FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND THEY MAY NOT BE BUILDING OUT AS CLOSE TO THE GULF AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS WITH THAT. AND QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT WAS PRETTY THOROUGH. NORMALLY AT THIS POINT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR APPLICANT REBUTTAL. IF WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK, BUT THERE BEING NONE. BUT IF YOU IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE MOVE TO. YEAH, JUST REALLY JUST I THINK YOU MADE GREAT POINTS. I THINK THE HARD PART FOR US IS WE. THAT'S WHY WE THINK OUR HEIGHT IS THE HARDSHIP. YOU AS AN ARCHITECT, BEING ABLE TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO KEEP IT LOW PROFILE, BUT STILL BE ABLE TO USE IT. IT WAS HARD AND I THERE'S NO OTHER PROPERTY IN EYES VIEW EAST OR WEST THAT HAD THAT ISSUE. AND SO FOR US, IT WAS UNIQUE AND WE WORKED AROUND IT AS BEST WE COULD. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DECK. IT IT LOOKS GREAT. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, HE CAN SPEAK TO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER TO MODIFY. BUT EVERYBODY HAS A SUN DECK WITHIN, YOU KNOW, EYES, VIEWS. AND WE JUST TRIED TO KIND OF GO ALONG THAT LINE WITH THEM. SO I THAT IS, YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY. IT IS HARD WITH THAT HEIGHT TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN WITHIN SUCH A SHORT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A THREE FOOT DECK DOESN'T, IT'S NOT VERY USEFUL. SO WE JUST TRIED TO GET THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF USEFULNESS THAT WE COULD WORKING WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE HAD. THE DECK IS CURRENTLY THE STRUCTURE IS THERE, RIGHT. YOU GUYS HADN'T TORN IT DOWN. IT'S STILL STANDING. GOTCHA. HAS ANYBODY TO THE EAST OR WEST COMPLAINED OF IT BLOCKING THEIR VIEW AS FAR AS ANY OF THE OTHER OWNERS? WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE TALKED TO OUR COMMONWEALTH NEIGHBORS, THE TAYLORS, AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE ONE AS WELL. AND MR. MELVILLE HAD MANAGED THERE. WE DID THE SAME THING ON OUR EXTERIOR. WE MANAGED THAT. I HELPED THEM THROUGH THE DECISION STUFF AND THEN HE EXECUTED IT AND THEY DECLINED TO DO IT. BUT THEY LOVED THE IDEA AND THEY SAID IF IT WAS A PRIVATE HOME, THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO IT. SO IT WOULD BE NICE AND SYMMETRICAL. PAUL LOFTUS TO OUR EAST. HE'S BEEN THERE. HE HAS NOT SAID ANYTHING. HE BASICALLY GOES OUT AND WE SEE HIM AT THE BEACH AND WE DON'T KNOW THE TOWNHOME, THE TRIPLEX, THE ONE THAT WAS TO THE WEST, BUT THEY HAVEN'T REALLY SAID ANYTHING. I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY REALLY WOULD. THERE'S GOES EVEN INTO PAST THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR VIEW, WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED THERE OUT FURTHER ANYWAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION. WELL THE TIME FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS HER WORKING ON HER BEHALF AT THIS POINT. IF NOT, OKAY, I'LL JUST. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PORTION AND MOVE NOW TO COMMISSION[00:25:07]
DISCUSSION AND ACTION. I SAID WHAT I. I'LL JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I'LL. SECOND, I WISH I WAS. A MOTION IN A SECOND. MR. CHRISTIE. YES, MA'AM. MR. DAFFIN YES, MA'AM. MR. HUNNICUTT. YES, MA'AM. MR. HAMMOND. YES, MA'AM. WITH THAT SAID, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THIS GOES BEFORE. IT'S A VARIANCE. MY APOLOGIES. YEAH, IT DOES NOT. WHAT'S HER WHAT'S HER OPTIONS? THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS TO THE COMMISSION, SO. AND YOU'RE. IF I MAY. YEAH. WHEN YOU DID THE SAME PRESENTATION WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION. I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB. BUT I JUST FOR US, IT'S IT'S MORE OF LIKE, OUR HANDS ARE A LITTLE MORE TIED WITH IT. THEY MAY HAVE THEY MAY SEE IT DIFFERENTLY. SO. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE CONFUSION? BUT IT'S IT'S WE WE APPROVED THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY IT. WE VOTED TO UPHOLD THEIR THEIR, THEIR DECISION. WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE VARIANCE. OKAY. SO JUST NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS. WHAT WHAT DO WE DO NOW? BUT YOU WOULD GET WITH PAM AND SHE CAN GUIDE YOU ON WHERE YOU GO TO GET AN APPEAL. IS THAT RIGHT? YOU'RE IN THE APPEAL PROCESS. OKAY. BUT I GUESS I GUESS WHERE I AM CONFUSED IS HOW DO HOW DO WE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GUESSING. WHAT GUIDANCE CAN YOU GUYS HELP US WITH TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS IF WE DIDN'T APPEAL, IF WE SAY WE THAT'S NOT THERE, WHAT WOULD BE OUR OPTIONS TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT LIKE, OKAY, WE WOULD DO AN APPEARANCE FOR THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT MEETING APPEARANCE. WHEN YOU SAY PATIO, MAYBE WE DO THIS AFTER THE MEETING RATHER THAN. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF OUT OF OUR PURVIEW AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT OR ANY CHANGES. WE'RE JUST IT'S ABOUT OUR JOB IS STRICTLY TO LOOK AT, DO WE APPROVE THIS OR NOT? WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS IS A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM F, WHICH IS A COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS. ANY ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSION? NONE FOR ME. YES, SIR. OKAY. I AGREE WITH THAT. I GUESS WE HAVE THE VOTE TO. YEAH. YEAH. SORRY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE. YEAH YEAH YEAH. THE VOTE TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCE FOR MR. CARTER. HE HAD A MEDIATION THIS MORNING AND HE DIDN'T THINK HE'D BE DONE. YEAH. YEAH. I WOULD SAY EXCUSE IT WOULD BE MY VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. YES. YES.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.